What It’s Like To Live In An RV And Work For Amazon During The Holidays
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- Опубликовано: 22 дек 2021
- Every holiday season since 2008, Amazon has hired hundreds of nomadic workers for temporary warehouse jobs. The CamperForce program is a small portion of this year’s 150,000 seasonal hires, but it gained notoriety in the 2020 movie “Nomadland.” This year, it’s seen its biggest growth yet, doubling to 26 sites in 14 states. Despite the growth, Amazon has shifted away from arranging workers’ campgrounds and paying for them directly. Here’s what it’s really like to live in an RV and work for Amazon during the holidays.
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What It’s Like To Live In An RV And Work For Amazon During The Holidays
No such thing as labor shortage. The labor is available, companies just don't want to pay people fairly. Better name for it should be "Fair wage shortage"
That’s why immigrants are pouring across the border looking for work? Maybe American wages and standard of living are too high compared to rest of world ???
@@chalkylover You are comparing people from poor Central American countries to rich European, Middle East, Asian, and North American(Not Mexico) countries?
I'll put it in a simple way for you.
If all you're used to getting is $5 a day, and somebody offers you $5 an hour, that seems great!
But for those who are used to better, that would be considered an insult!
@@gcb345 maybe people need to learn to swallow their pride and come to understand that they live in a GLOBAL ECONOMY now despite how insulted they are with wages they are offered.
Maybe you should be more insulted that rich people like americans and europeans wouldnt work for peasant wages like (Mexican , in parentheses for some reason) people would. As if americans and europeans are better than mexicans or other people from devloping countries and deserve higher wages just because their country is "richer".
@@chalkylover The issue is not that American people consider themselves to be better than the illegals, American people live in a country that is way overpriced for the average worker ie: rent, gas, food and clothing.
Amazon and the other greedy mega companies exploit their workers, pay little if any of their fair share of taxes, all the while the CEO's etc., collect and keep all of their wealth.
Amazon still pays better than a lot of no skill jobs. But from what I have heard you earn every penny
The worst thing about this is the money. How little it is. We are talking about, no contribution to retirement. A discussion about an increase of $3/hr. No relocation fee. No money enough to put down on a house. So, in a generation, you are left with nothing - until your kids become Amazon low wage workers. This is modern day indentured servitude.
Yea, I think they're just trying to appeal to the young crowd who wants more travel, and make it look like a benefit
Get a different job. No one is forcing you to work for Amazon.
Indentured servitude? Come on dude the lady in the video said straight up that she did this purely because she WANTED too. Sure the pay isn't that great and the benefits are basically non existent but not every one wants to live a cookie cutter life 9-5 for 40 years then only live 5 more in retirement and die. Your just a hater
@@timosborn4278 I mean they did talk about how they ended up here after the last recession, they lost their jobs and their home.
It's not like they choose this lifestyle first my dude.
Amen🙏
Whenever companies pay less, they will always say that they provide “flexibility.” Greed has no bounds.
I guess the north did not win the war it was Amazon. They change Cotton for boxes
No one is forcing anyone to work for them. The choices ones makes earlier in life affect them later. Stop being so entitled.
One person's flexibility is another person's lost wages.
Accusing others of greed while expecting higher wages for yourself... 🤔
@@wlonsdale1 You want to lose your supervisor job, Right? You just might be doing physical work again shortly!
What a dystopian time to be alive
Can't agree more!
@@visheshrao5629 of course u can’t....sheep 🤣
@Save 🇺🇸foh... both parties are dogshit....stop slurping the Republicans balls.
Bunch ol boot lickin fascists
ThE DeMs ArE tHe BaD oNeS MeH mEh
@@visheshrao5629 ruclips.net/video/IYLwtu0rErk/видео.html TOP 5
You want to know how Amazon truly thinks of their workers, watch them fight tooth and nail against unionization, that speaks loud and clear what they think of their workers.
I always enjoyed apply for a closed shop union job. Union approval always hinged on who I knew in the union. I'M not against unions. But they can be just as evil as the employer. Only non whites you saw on the John Deere picket lines was catering food.
Dumb af for going to Amazon and being upset about the treatment 😂😆😂
Unions are at times corrupt whenever they protests or stage a strike, they meet with the employers behind the scene and negotiate a sweet deal between them and the employer they negotiate such a very nice benefit for themselves and leave scraps to the rest of the union members. The more a union leader is close with the employer behind the scenes while maintaining a pro worker stance in public is what happens behind many unions. That is how communism worked in the past in the Soviet Union, Communist China, Vietnam, North Korea & etc... a low income person given so much power and authority for the first time in his/her life is very prone to corruption.
Awww look at all the lil boot lickers
@@doctorbigsmiles I thought the bootlickers was the people with student loans and liberal arts degrees.
So Amazon found a way to squeeze the workers even more. Classy.
But not these two.
The temporary workers are not actually working for Amazon. They are employed by temp agencies contracted to Amazon. They are second class, disposable cogs in the Amazon organization and are treated as such. This system exploits the many loopholes in the part time employment regulations and benefits Amazon's bottom line at the expense of the temp workers.
But this advertisement disguised as a news piece said Amazon is good, what do you mean?? I thought Amazon was my friend, cnbc too....
@@doctorbigsmiles ruclips.net/video/IYLwtu0rErk/видео.html TOP 5
@@doctorbigsmiles I’m a Amazon prime member
And your point?
Yes. And?
FedEx has a similar system, every year during the last 3 months of the year. All employees and temps can do as many hours as they want and some do bring a camper or rv for sleep. we have showers in our employee bathrooms and its not bad at all. I personally have worked for FedEx for 2 years now and this "peak" season I worked 120 hours a week. I cleared 15k a month and saved it all. Its very tiring but so worth it for the money, and its just a couple months out of year where you can choose to go all out. I now enter the new year with good savings and feel very comfortable knowing I have an emergency fund.
120 hours a week😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 stop it
OR INSTEAD COMPANIES SHOULD PAY A LIVING WAGE!!!!!!!
@@Jeffshighonlife would you like to see my pay stub or print out of hours worked? cuz i don’t see what’s funny
@@riskinhos i agree with you, but doesn’t hurt to make extra cash
@soly ali whats funny is the crazy amount of hours. I mean its an opportunity for people to make 15k a month for a couple of months but also comically insane hours.
I work almost 11 hr days with only 2 breaks and a lunch. Warehouse jobs can be hell on the body.
yea the one I worked at gave a 30 minute lunch and we weren't even allowed outside for it. that was our only break regardless if we stayed for ot. I lasted about a month before I quit. good money, horrible job.
2 breaks and lunch a shift is a lot.
@@miamitten1123 for 8hrs most definitely. But for almost 12 hr days, it can be a little stressful on the body. Especially when you're doing backbreaking labor lol
@@miamitten1123 a lot!? WTF that's standard
it wasnt an RV, but i lived out of my truck with a bunch of camping gear working farms for a while. Hard lesson I learned was that when a vehicle is your home, a car wreck basically makes you homeless..
It's amazing how corporations can offer the minimum viable conditions and then cut back on even those. Just to be mean.
Supply and demand goes both ways. The more people competing for the job the less companies have to pay.
@@irreccon soooo... We should bring in more people?😆
@@irreccon absolutely right.
@@irreccon in the middle of pandemic around october 2020, I worked at Amazon fulfilment center. I got a lot of shifts and great pay, but later in early 2021, I got less shifts and less pay since many people joined the workforce.
No...not to be mean. It's cos they don't givafuk.
101 guide on how to stay in poverty
Exactly, all these other commenters are acting like this is good, WTF. This is abject poverty
Trust me .... we lived in "poverty" when we owned a house, two cars, had kids, lived the American Dream ... and worked in Emergency Medicine. Now ...we no longer live to work. We work to live.
Who says they are going to do this for 10plus yrs? Maybe they just want some experience to see the country then settle down when the kids get a little older where they can’t home school them anymore. You don’t know anything about them
@@Scholar702 Thais YOUR definition of poverty. If they’re happy why r u mad
@@mannygonzalez4178 miserable people want others miserable. These people are evidently accepting of this
I worked at The Amazon warehouse for over a year during the pandemic. When everything in my industry fell apart. I was depressed, had to take $1,000 a month in expenses, out of my savings, cause I couldn’t afford to pay rent and… was miserable. Applied to multiple Amazon jobs and it just never went anywhere but down. Never again!
What was more miserable? Being broke and going through your savings and being miserable or working at Amazon and being miserable? A quick second question..are you miserable right now?
I don’t know you, but I'll say some prayers for yall. You might think, so what, how's that help? Well, there's mighty powers in prayer, & its always good when someone shows you a bit of companion. Especially when It comes from a stranger, that will never meet you. You can then know that the love & prayers came, unsolicited and without wanting anything in return.
God speed & God bless
@@bryanwood7771 fair point but Amazon is still a sh!tty place to work at you get 10 min restroom breaks and it takes 5 mins just to get to the bathroom
@@bryanwood7771 I say the same thing. We must work for our needs.
I work for Amazon from home. My job is to provide tech support for equipment in various warehouses across the country. I've had countless conversations with managers and supervisors and let me say this, I will never set foot in an Amazon warehouse. Nope.
From Hope? Is that a town?
@@dannydaw59 Sorry, it was a typo. I meant to write from home.
Thank u for posting. Can you explain a little bit more about why you will never set foot in an Amazon warehouse?
@@joannabusinessaccount7293 Too many horror stories. Even bathroom breaks are timed? And all the yelling at employees. I hear in the background when I'm talking managers while assisting managers with equipment repair. Yeah, no. I like amazon from my end of the spectrum. And don't just take my word for it. Just watch the many videos on RUclips.
Get in there and tired of trying to educate their book smart " managers"!!!
Clueless as how people.
They have never physically preformed what what they push.
Good luck!!!
It's all, a stunt.
Happy New Year to ALL!!! JK
Amazon: "we want to give them more options"
Also Amazon: here's less money
Also /Amazon : I don't know you 🤣
I worked for Amazon warehouses for a few Christmases, I wish these were available then... I hated having to travel an hour back after an exhausting 10 hour shift.
Why couldn’t you live closer to the warehouse? It’s my understanding housing is cheap near warehouses because it’s less desirable.
@@TomCook1993 It’s my understanding, housing in your mom's basement is even cheaper, because it’s less desirable.
@@TomCook1993 Nope, housing costs were similar across the region.
@@mastergoblin7205 Nice comeback! Touché! 🤣
Housing costs boom around warehouses in my state. 700k-5 million for a decent sized house.
We need to stop glorifying the exploitation of workers. This is not a lifestyle to look up to. Amazon needs to hire full time workers and pay benefits to workers.
Thank You. I couldn't agree more with your statement 👏👍
Amazon needs to go away
Not gonna happen until you start hanging corporate shareholders and CEO or burning them on a cross.
Why if this is literally what they want to do is travel?
We ,as customer, will need to pay more if that happens,. At same time, Amazon stock will plunge.
This is capital society not not socialist society which is most dumb ideas
$15-$18 an hour!? WHAT??? Seriously my local MCDONALDS is starting at $18 an hour all day every day!!!! And no I dont live in New York or a big urban city.. I live in a town where 100,000 people and some sub urbs.. no big city and crazy expensive stuff... like seriously guys there are way higher paying jobs out there. No college degree required... I cant believe this crap I wont even show up for less than $20 an hour with how expensive stuff is...
where do you live?
18 an hour isn't a living wage in most areas. Where I live you need to make $60k a year after taxes to afford all basic human needs comfortably. After taxes 18/hr assuming 40 hours a week is $26,784 where I live. You can't even afford a cardboard box on this. It also isn't a major city, but it's on the Northeastern coast of the USA.
Man minimum wage jobs effectively doubled. I’m poor now with the salary job.
Maybe they just want to travel before settling down or maybe money is not the issue right now and they just want the experience different things?!?! But 👌
@@dantu5377 And here’s the problem - this mindset. From the tone of your comment, you are not upset that your wages have not increased with inflation but rather at the minimum wage workers who you deem to be of less value than you, and therefore should make less than your “salary”. Sad.
This is so insane that as technology increases we find ourselves increasingly able and desiring to go back to prehistoric nomadic lifestyle of our ancestors
If y’all truly hate how Amazon treats their workers don’t use any of their products, to include Amazon Web Service hosted websites. Walk the walk, don’t just talk the talk.
You realized that doesn't never gonna work right? They're too big. Jeff has being going to space. Individuals can't do nothing at these point
I am sure azure is different😆
It's impossible to avoid the AWS because companies pick them. The employees of those companies or even gov't workers don't pick aws.
I used to work for Amazon would never do it again. Another thing you don't have to spend any of your money with Amazon go directly to stores themselves brick-and-mortar hours that solve that.
Plus Amazon bought Twitch/MGM Studios, do I stop watching Twitch streams and certain films? (And this is coming from someone who doesn’t shop from Amazon.) It’s hard to avoid everything Amazon related cuz Bezos wants to own everything -sighs-
The scary underlying narrative of this story is that massive housing crisis in America right now. Sure, I imagine some of these people are choosing to live this "nomadic" camper lifestyle, and that's great for them. However, given the rapid expansion of this program its hard to believe that this many people have "chosen" to live in an RV or camper van. This is Amazon (and other companies) taking advantage of people in situations that they don't necessarily want to be in.
Do you know how much those RVs cost ?!
@@y.peffle2802 80k new. 50k used.
Agreed...like putting lipstick on a pig.....
@@shanewillbur1325 the one they were in was easily 100k
Considering how often people relocate and job hop now, it's not really realistic anymore for youths to buy a home and attempt to settle down someplace.
In "third world country" as you called, we have houses complex for employees, 8 hours a day, 1.5x to 2x overtime payment for each hour, 2-3 hours maximum overtime job, free lunch for employees, about 3-4 weeks paid holiday and healthcare for max 2-3 family members
How about 401K?
Kadal, are you South African? Cos what you’ve mentioned is the South African labour law
@@ak_naral is 401k a pension contribution? If yes then yes we have that too. It’s law in my country to contribute towards pension
This sounds like a lifestyle for people who have half-way given up on life.
If they are happy can downsize or simplify their life. Why not. This life is not for me but not everyone’s goal is to make a lot of money, have huge home, luxury cars, etc. Everyone definition of rich is different 🤷🏽♂️
@@AirForceA7x then don’t complain about pay.
@@kalelandis8284Do you have a job? If so, don't complain about pay. There are abundance of people who are willing to do your job for a third.
Inb4 I am neurosurgeon :p
I'm sorry! I checked out..if you know what I mean...bad bad case of the "lazy's". Hey, I smell like campfire every day that I sweat it, and I make Smores almost nightly. So there 😐!
Trust me not the case..
It started with farming. Migrant farm workers employed this model first.
Exactly. I guess it's spread to middle class white Americans with their spacious RVs. People are moving down in the world.
I did think it goes way back...depression era almost...People crossing the country, working when and where they can....Like in the Bonnie and Clyde days...
I thought it was slavery that started this model. Living on the land you work.
You cant deny how astonishingly smart amazon is with the ridiculous things they do.
They are really leaning into dystopia
So true lol
Pretty soon they will offer rent or buy a husband 😂😂
Evil genius
So...if I'm reading between the lines here... I'm trying to assemble the facts...
Our 2 main characters do this with a $100k+ RV...(the so called "beast")...plus gas and maintenance...
That was supplied and now maintained by grandma and grandpa?
Sounds like a killer deal for Amazon👍💲🤑
Without a free RV....there's no way this is a cash-positive job.
Yeah, but wtf kind of life is that for their kids? Always moving from city to city, no friends, no roots.
They say the kids like it, and when the kids start asking for something different, they will pivot. simple.
As we mentioned... if our kids didn't like it anymore we would stop. But personally I like living a life that I get to actually raise my own children instead of teachers and daycare workers doing it for me. My children have traveled to over 35 states, 15 National Parks and had more adventures then your average person could dream of. This lifestyle isn't for everyone.... but we love it. ❤️
That RV and truck is at least 300k in value. How the hell do they afford that? This seems like something isn't right
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Ya, the counters look like marble and they've got nice wood paneling and slide out compartments.
Maybe they had to sell their house vs it being foreclosed and used the equity
@@AllIAm1 pretty poor use
@@Moonless6491 meh, imo it's better than paying rent if you can make it work. The rental market is going to be as extortional as the medical industry.
Their RV is way nicer than my home.
Do you want work for these assholes? For an RV. It's not a home. Amazon owns it.
@@J3unG houses are overrated in my book. Think of all the maintenance involved not to mention the taxes you wind up paying
So i start off $3 an hour higher, Amazon pays for $520/month towards parking my camper, and $3/hr night differential, so $21/hour, and $520/160hours=$8.67/hour for my housing, so now I'm basically being paid $29.67/hour by amazon, now its 2 people, so they both get the camp expenses. like, thats not a bad deal for them.
1:10 Is a “tiny footprint” hauling around about 12 tonnes of truck and RV all over the country?!
attention: immediate positions open only for cardboard box force. You must live in a cardboard box to work this position. Free perks include extra blankets, 3 two liter bottles of soda of your preference, bus fair, and the list just gets better. Our slogan...we don't care that you don't have a return address! Cardboard is King!
It must pay pretty good that RV costs more then a lot of houses. Plus campground prices aren't exactly cheap anymore.
No it doesn't this is an alternative way of living as the normal way isn't affordable.
Amazon pays great.
Have to pay for parking??? y?? campground is not free?
@@sachin2842 Why would it be free? You're occupying land and expect to have electricity and water supply, don't you?
@@trildi water and electricity can be piggybanked from others like friends and ground should be free as USA has huge land I thought 🤔
I don't have a problem with people who legit want to live on the road so to speak. I can see how this lifestyle could be great for some people/families and this family seems to have a great RV and a nice life. However, I am concerned that we're headed towards an economy where this isn't really a choice, and people's movable homes are less comfortable.
And frankly, if Amazon is going to have a whole workforce living in RVs they should be willing to provide a place for people to park their RV while they are working there. Depending on the location and time of year, a campsite may not be available and event renting by the month at a campsite can be more expensive than renting an apartment.
I've been thinking about living out of a cybertruck since they were announced. My dog is 14 and will probably die in the next year while Tesla is nearing production, rent is sky high everywhere, and I like traveling, being in nature and using my money for experiences, not just rent and land-based bills.
Hopefully you'll have space to carry around auxillary charging capabilities. Otherwise you're not escaping further than 3 hours or so from the nearest charging station. Which are all in majorly populated areas which are also very much not for people living in their vehicles. Good luck legally parking to sleep for free in just about any major city.
@@anon556 the weather is fantastic right here in LA, and there's plenty of places here that RVs and such are allowed to congregate for free. I've seen a few dozen communities around. Showers and restroom is easy enough to figure out with a gym membership etc
As for traveling when I do that, I'm good with 1 hour from society. I went about 2-3 hours from society (Flagstaff AZ) when I went to Navajo Nation, and that was already more solitude than I'll ever need. ☝️😵
I could keep u company daddy 😘
@@anon556 you know nothing. You can charge anywhere you can plug in. chargers are everywhere
Go for it bro!!
I'll never be able to afford a house, so this is my retirement plan. To live off-grid in an RV.
Good for you!!!!
I think this is the reality for a lot of people today. This isn't the 1950s or 1970s where one income was enough to afford a nice house in the suburbs, two cars and support a family. In some ways, we've taken a step forward, in other ways, a step backward. There always were people living in cars, vans and RVs, now with RUclips, we are seeing more people doing it which in turn gives more people the idea to do it too.
I’ve been so fortunate in my life . Was able to buy everything cash and my only outstanding debt is my Mortage . With that said I am more than content stating at home I don’t lose anything by not going out and wasting money like so many others. My goal is own my own land and move away from the city . Good luck everyone and don’t put limits on yourself
Seeing as this is a core part of their holiday business plan, AMZN should be investing in RV Parks near their warehouses. Putting the onus on the temp employees to set everything up is likely for liability and legal issues, but ethically it's horrible.
I was a part of Camperforce the last year they did find and pay for the campsite. And we had crazy cold weather, below zero for over a week. It was brutal, and the campground complained to Amazon about the electricity we used and some people blamed amazon. I think that was the end of them arranging the campsite.
It sounds like a good investment opportunity, go for it!
There are many people who really love this lifestyle, rather than living in one place. Amazon is covering their butt, but, most of these people are enjoying themselves too.
Amazon is close to making their employees live in on-site bunkhouses.
Irish Navi's built most of britain's rail ways and before that the cannels, Navi is short for navigator. This way of life was super common, until it was lost with the world wars.
Imagine convincing people that working in a sweatshop and living in a trailer is trendy. Well played Jeff. Amazon seems to prey on the low iq and desperate people in our society. Sad.
Snob
Maybe a bit harsh. I think a lot of people find themselves in this situation after a traumatic incident in their lives and they have no other choice, or if they do, this is the better one. It could be temporary or long term. At least they're not collecting welfare doing nothing. Working in a warehouse for $18/hour+ and living in an RV can be considered living the dream when compared to someone living on the streets with nothing. And compared to a middle or upper-middle class lifestyle, this is definitely not living the dream. It's a matter of perspective.
Working is better than unemployment benefit
@@reallyrandomrides1296 I agreed with you on that. Some peoples rather doing something then just waiting to die. As for me......I will works there to earns a lot of monies and blow it all on Hookers just before I die :).
In China they have apartment complex where employees to live on factories 🏭 land. Never thought that would come to the West. Yikes 😬
Company towns are coming back!!!
It's been a thing in America since like the 1800s when mining or railroad companies made 'company towns' and paid their workers with coupons that could only be used at shops owned by the company.
They seem happy and with online homeschooling and help from family they can prolly raise those kids decently. The sad thing is not building equity with a house and instead having 2 sets of depreciating rv/trucks
I can’t imagine when their RV break down.
Maybe if you followed us or knew anything about us ...you would know we have encountered our own set of challenges .... from our stick and bricks home all the way to life on the road. But ... no matter how you choose to live.... things break ...and stuff goes wrong. But I'd much rather live a life that I can hike our nation's mountains and swim in the waters of the world ...then stuck in a 9 to 5 every single day of my life.
When you think about it we all in a matrix. Don’t criticize 9-5 workers because most have insurance, retirement, and other incentives. It’s not perfect but it’s a life of stability for some. Everyone has to do what is best for them.
@@shaymm8332 I understand. Different cup of tea for me though. Even nomads want a place to call home, eventually. Going in to work to provide for a family is not something people like to do. It is an obligation they have to do. No one like to do it. But it is what have to be done. Even the hippies generations settle down. :)
Capitalism at its finest, overcoming loop holes like it’s 1829.
The lady actually admitted to the enjoyment of being exploited by the mega-billion dollar conglomerate.
Soft, dumb and happy
Maybe she's afraid of being terminated for publically badmouthing Amazon
This advertisement disguised as news wouldn't work too good if they bad mouthed the corporate overlords
No one is holding a gun to their heads. If it works for them......I just don't see the problems here. They woks whenever they need to and take off when they need to. It not like a ball and chains for most other.
It's a big advertisement, not news.
If their lifestyle is so spacious then why so much wide-angle lens?
Also used to downtown condos and suburbia homes for sale. You know what it implies. They don't use it in the penthouses for sale.
To capture their giant bodies in the frame
You asked, are you valued as employees? There was a man who was not allowed to stop working during a storm and the building collapsed and he died and Amazon tweeted about it and the next day they had someone to do his job.... they do not give a damn about you
"we thought that amazon cared about us" oh honey your so wrong smh lol
Just like Walmarts!!!!! All companies will have to adjust to the changes if they want to stay in business. At 18$ and hours in MS..........I thinks Mcdonald's pay 9 and hours there.
I do seasonal jobs in Alaska. Flights, Room and food fully paid for by the company. With all the expenses of Rv living I just don't think this would be worth it for me. I also don't have a family either tho
What kind of seasonal jobs do you do?
@@rocioarteaga7606 fish processing factory. 16 hour shifts 7 days a week for 3 months.. it's pretty hard core, you can find easier jobs working with hotels or resorts as like a cook or cleaner but you will make less money
These RVs look incredible spacious!
THANK YOU! We love our tiny house on wheels ♡
The slide-outs make all the difference! I have a 22 foot travel trailer with no slide-outs. It's amazing how much can be put in there (bedroom, kitchen, bathroom) but yeah, a 30 foot fifth wheel with slide-outs seems like a mansion in comparison.
@@reallyrandomrides1296 Oh definitely !!!! Slide outs make them much more livable.... but they look bigger on the inside haha! The one we're in now is 41 feet vs our old one was 36 feet.... Makes a big difference for sure !
@@shaymm8332 Wow, that's a decent size! I meant to type 40 foot, not 30 foot. But for sure, a 40 foot fifth wheel with slide-outs can be quite spacious! I've been in a few at RV shows and was really impressed with the efficient layouts to maximize space.
Grandpa and grandma's.
You're all complaining about Amazon like they've forced these people to live out of a $150,000 camper....
Amazon propaganda.
They mentioned homeschooling the kids. How good can mom do when she comes back tired from work? That has to be a tough childhood moving around like that. It doesn't appear to be fair to the kids. Maybe they like that RV life but how do they get out of poverty?
Assuming it's mostly on the grandparents.
They couldn't do it without the grandparents.
Himeschooling has improved over the years and the parents are not necessarily the teachers. The internet allows teachers to interact with homeschoolers
The home schooling is good enough for them to become the next generation of minimum-wage workers for Amazon.
@@EquuleusPictor 😅..... 😶
This is nothing new really. it’s common in the oil; agricultural and construction industry nationwide.
That’s what I was thinking too.
But they're lesbians.
So these 2 women are making $3 less an hour than new hires?
Yup.
Direct hire and seasonal temp hire are completely different.
Hey don't think about that, think about this. 🎮🎰📲🖥📦🚽⚰
How do they afford the 100k+ fifth wheel on minimum wage?
It's their home. No house building. Living on a budget. Travelling expenses taken care off by Amazon. Minimum wage is for other seasons
Also 15 a hour in Mississippi is pretty good they are bringing home bank that doesn’t go to rent since Amazon covers campground fees
Amazon doesn’t pay minimum wage… And they could have sold their home for cash, sold off 401k or had savings for the RV.
Totally doable. Just need to be more “living cautious”. Technically, everyone should try RV/camp style life for at least a few weeks. You learn to be survive with limited resources. You learn how to be handy, and how to be more aware of ur living surrounding.
@@dwarrior7546 and no property tax
The workforce environment continues to plummet. These large corporations are doing whatever they want to their employees, including telling them they aren’t allowed to squat on their property. Even though these people are squatters by definition. These employees enable Amazon to continue to pay them an unlivable wage to the point they are “FULL TIME RV’ERS” and living in unsafe environments, this lifestyle SOULD NEVER BE A VIABLE OPTION FOR A FAMILY OR SENIOR CITIZENS. Only people in their early 20s trying to find themselves are even understandable living this way.
Lol
If you aren’t a skilled worker you don’t deserve to be paid like you are. That’s the problem with the United States you all bought into the myth that everyone deserves to live like the top tier of society , you don’t … you are drones
@@stankythecat6735
What was said about top tier living? If living like a human with dignity and safety from the elements constitutes top tier living then as a society we’re all in trouble. I think you should reconsider your argument.
This lifestyle is aspirational to them. They take a season and work very hard then live off the savings for the rest of the year. How is this a trap?
@@johnmcho Do they their RVs?
What I think the young lady stated at the very end might be getting wrong, is that when the employees say
"See you next season... They always come back... "
The employees say that because of the enjoyment of their fellow employees and not the specific love for the job
Not defending amazon but some of those people are way out of shape to be working such physically demanding jobs .
And no one is forcing them to work there, they choose to.
This was definitely not an episode of Make It or Millennial Money (brought to you by Acorns). There were so many contradictions about choosing this but then really making things stretch from paycheck to paycheck, or more appropriate, season to season.
This isn't sustainable or even replicable, the next door traveling grandparents helping with school and meals but all that was shown was boardgames and TV and pizza. Do you, and I'm sure this could work for many, but this isn't the romanticized nomad or van life movement. The instability makes me so uncomfortable.
To be fair ... you saw like .... 10 min of our life. You have nnnnnoooo idea what its really like.... or anything about the status of our bank account. 😊
@@shaymm8332 you know better than anyone else that it’s not sustainable, enjoy it while it lasts
@@Luther_Luffeigh Hahahah!!!! I will!!!! Thank you! 5 years and going strong ... 💪 ❤️
I'm sorry you hate your life so much that you have to come on here just to judge mine. 😁
This is an alternative way of living. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's bad.
Shay M & M,
You seem awful defensive of anyone who questions your lifestyle. Whatever works for you, but when you put your story online, your going to get everyone's opinion. Good luck and stay safe!!
Sounds like they just need to shop around for that type of roving employment with different companies/corporations. Sometimes you can give a small company your loyalty, but never should you to a corporation. 😑
It’s a modern day Hooverville
So, these two think that this is the "life"? I can understand doing this if they have saved enough for retirement. This is the type of gig for people who have saved up enough money for retirement and then simply travel around the country while earning such a low wage. These two are still young. I bet they don't have even a six-figure amount in their retirement portfolio.
Their kids are going to grow up and struggle just like the parents, and consequently the "vicious cycle of poverty" continues.
People need to understand that poverty could stem from having a certain pseudo utopian mindset. It is cool to want to travel around the country. However, be realistic about it and think about having a job that will enable a somewhat comfortable retirement.
It might be "the life" compared to what they used to have. An RV depreciates, whereas a sticks and bricks home appreciates in value, so that's a downside. But it looks like they have a nice, comfortable new fifth wheel RV. Everyone has different aspirations and goals. It looks like they're having fun and they know they have a home to come back to every night, and enough money to live on. Granted, this doesn't seem like it will build a nest egg for retirement, but in this day and age with housing prices going up so fast, the cost of living and inflation rising faster than wages, sometimes you just have to live in the moment and take care of yourself now.
If they're both working ten hours a day at 15/hr six days a week that's 1,800.00/wk. Their expenses are low so I'm guessing they're banking some money as well as contributing to their social security account through taxes. Ultimately the most important thing is enjoying one's life so they're ahead of most people already since they appear to be content with their lifestyle on the whole. You have no idea whether you're going to make it to retirement or not.
Wow
@@wthomas7955 You do realize Amazon workers make more than $15 a hour? Most of my team averaged $26 a hr. Benefits are great plus stock options. 🙃
@@Rootbeerpapi1 I'm pretty sure she said they were making $15/hr in the video. Maybe because they are seasonal hires. I'm happy to hear amazon is paying you better than that.
I love that they care about their kids mental health. So wholesome.
Living in an RV and working for Amazon & most other jobs is absolutely positively NO where near enough to pay for RV overhead. RV overhead is sure NOT the only thing to pay. Truck and campground overhead are also killers. It sure takes a Fortune 500 executive to get an RV and maintain that thing. There is also another problem. Values of RVs and trucks drop like stone. On top of that, driving an RV is very clumsy & clunky; same is true for towing an RV trailer. All kinds of things go wrong with RVs and RV trailers - repair services are oftentimes so hard to get. With Amazon jobs being so demanding, a life like that is sure to be very hard. Amazon does NOT even want to pay for campground expenses. RV people working for Amazon do NOT get company match for 401(k) retirement savings. The unfortunate reality is that people oftentimes borrow huge sums of money to buy an RV and RV trailers.
Modern day slavery 🤦🏾♂️
"people oftentimes borrow huge sums of money to buy an RV and RV trailers."
BS. No one is going to buy an RV in order to get a TEMPORARY and SEASONAL job at Amazon. People who work here already had an RV.
A. They have a trailer not an RV and I would suspect that would be common. Trailers barely depreciate in value since they last a very very long time. Repairs on trailers are not that exepensive the main cost is just the maintenance on the truck which you would have to do otherwise if you own a car. Additionally, they aren't necessarily moving it a lot which cuts maintenance dramatically
B. If you own the rig and amazon pays for your spot then it is much much cheaper then rent.
C. In any case, this doesn't matter because we know for certain that this is a popular thing. People are only working a small fraction of the year and then rving the rest. If your implication is correct, that would imply there is a massive conspiracy of people lying about working at seasonally amazon and rving and amazon is just pretending they have nomad workers.
You do not need to be a fortune 500 executive to afford an RV that's Ludicrous
people would not do it if it were that horrible, and you hear them say they are much happier than before, before when they had a regular job.
This Nov and Dec I know someone who works for a major retailer in a suburb . It's not too bad, hours are 5am, or 6am, living in a van, company have treats/pizza during the 12 days of Christmas. It's hard work walking to replenish stocks around the store or unpacking inventory daily. The gig has more verities when the management finds her multi tasks well and has retail industry experience
Why does this gives me The Grapes 🍇 of Wrath vibes and Amazon is going to do something stupid to these American families on the same level as Orchard Pickers did to American Families during the Great Depression who escaped the Dust Bowl to California who themselves didn’t have well paying jobs. I’m glad these Mothers are happy and their Kids agree to this but if I was a Father I would not subject my kids to this homeschool and uncertain incomes. I don’t mind moving every 2-3years in the Military but hunting for Campgrounds that could swindle me all while my employer says “we aren’t helping with your living situation” and all the while my kids are stuck in the Boonies in an RV Camp getting homeschooled instead of attending a normal public school. Hell no. I wouldn’t want to put my kids or wife or pets through that.
i just want to know how they were able to afford that giant RV, but in the same breath compain about not making enough money, those things are EXPENSIVE!!
It's actually alot cheaper then renting a apartment. With the loan payments only being a few hundred dollars. On top of which being mobile you aren't tied down to any 1 location or distance.
Gypsy life... great oportunity for those that need a temp gig.
I'm surprised they didn't remove your comment.
I question the sensibility Americans of becoming so dependent upon one company.
This is not the glamorous nomadic van life. They are not doing any hiking, mountain climbing, rafting, or exploring. Camping is supposed to entail outdoor recreational activities and the freedom of continuously moving around every week. They are just doing seasonal moves.
Hahaha!!!! I love how you think you know our life by watching 10 min that was about our job at the moment. This is NOT our life. We have traveled to over 35 states ... seen 13 + National Parks .... tons of museums and monuments. We have kayaked on the ocean ...hiked the Narrows in Zion ... held baby alligators .... and so much more. Life goes beyond the tip of your nose... believe it or not.
Even without the dislikes the ratio of likes to views is very telling.
How does the interior for an RV looks better than 75% of apartments in the US
The qualifications for the program are like robot specs: "stand or walk 4-10 hours" , "lift up tu 49 pounds"
Sounds like the 21st century picking season my elders from Mexico would do every year
Their RV is a beast! A kitchen island????
This is something straight out of Cyberpunk 2077.
Capitalism and American economy at it's worst
Looking more like a third world country day by day. Now in New York city, we see 3 people on a small electric bike like if we were in central America or india🤦♀️
@@ERICK-di1yz third world countries have less facilities but atleast we have jobs because of our better IQ
@@vishalarora13 actually, third world countries have more facilities because they make all American products. The outsource American jobs to other countries. So our iq actually decreases our job opportunities because they'd have to pay us more. Which they won't
A migratory workforce is easier to exploit. No roots=No community. No community is much easier to push around.
Amazon should buy up lots for their camperforce, even if they charge a maintenance fee it would still workout instead of people scrambling to look for a spot.
Never knew this was a thing until seeing this.. interesting
"why American workers are homeless"
wouldn't that have been a more on brand tittle for you guys?
An RV is a home..
Because houses cost a lot. Duh.
The guys at Amazon are geniuses.
Moms used to be able to stay home with their kids without living in a camper or doing a grueling ten hour shift overnight gig to subsidize it. This is not a success story, this is what happens when the bar is dropped so low that success looks like poverty to past generations.
They work like 4 months out of the year and take easy cushy jobs the rest of the year.
That generation won WW2 so can dominate worldwide trade.
They were working an ambulance gig before. Ambulance workers have long grueling hours too. We don't know the complexities of their situation. They lost their house, but they could have had equity in that house to have enough to afford a down payment trailer and truck. They could have gotten help from mom and dad. And they are both saying how they enjoy being nomadic and having long stents where they DO NOT HAVE TO WORK and can just enjoy their family and travel.... doesn't sound so bad to me.
@@NPAMike They said they take minimum wage jobs the rest of the year, I would not consider that cushy by any means!
@@bascal133 Its difficult to get decent paying Job if you are a nomad unless you are a Trucker, or RUclipsr or Drug mule
All sounds good on video but this should be a red flag of a problem between jobs and real estate. If things don't improve more people will be driven into this lifestyle
You learn something new everyday. I had no idea this was even a thing. Maybe I would’ve found out poner if I had bothered to watch Nomadland, but whatever. Lol
Why pay employes all-year round when you can rebrand people not even living in basic houses, working as somewhat low-paying slavery and rebrand it as "personal freedom"
I didn't want to be mean about this situation but you nailed it dude.....poverty.
A quick perusal of the comments makes me believe so many people are missing the point. This is a lifestyle of their choosing and the temporary gigs combined with a low cost of living allow them to have a more nomadic lifestyle that would otherwise be impractical. Many people dream of this freedom their entire lives. They are actually making it work.
Read the book Nomadland. People became nomad because they can't afford rent, cant afford to retire. Being camper force is no picnic. Some people work till they die in their camper in the middle of nowhere.
And they enjoy it!
@@navycruise, the couple seems to be blue collar-like, don't they?
@@jayfraxtea Don't believe everything you see or hear.
Thank you! I am Shay from the video. You get it 😉
You guys struggle primarily because of being overweight and ....
Lmao truth
One of them is so unfit, she can't even tie her own shoes. 😅😅😅
And America said she loses weight...
4:25 Dog:🐶 if I stare hard enough they will give me food.
Good coverage, thanks.
This is interesting !What a unique idea,I didn’t know this existed
:Is the smell a problem ,I mean two dogs.
Hey! I'm the couple/family in this video and no our home doesn't smell haha. Valid question though! Tiny living is no different than a traditional sticks and bricks ... just clean your home, yourselves and your pets ... 😊
@@frenchonion4595 Thank you haha
@@shaymm8332 Nice! I have two dogs as well. I have a travel trailer for extended road trips and vacations, but neither my RV or my sticks and bricks house smells. Like she said, clean your home, yourselves and your pets.
@@reallyrandomrides1296 Exactly!!! You enjoy those trips ... safe travels with your loved ones n fur babies! ❤️
Avoid the woof.
People saying “you choose where you work” are soooo incredibly privileged. If you can apply to any entry level job you want and get in, you are PRIVILEGED. That is not normal! I can count on one hand the places that have asked me to interview, and I have applied tons and tons of places in my life. But like usual y’all like to act like the disabled community doesn’t exist 🥴
AKA Amazon looked into how it could tap into seasonal agricultural laborers who have way less work during the winter. Since they control the land where the workers are camping that gives them extra control to insure they keep working. If they quit, they get kicked out.
lol at the benefits. After 3 months of work they can enjoy 8 days of prescription benefits before their contract expires and they are terminated. A new contract restarts the clock.
I appreciate you guys.
The American Dream in action!
Changing the definition of the "American Dream" ♡
The corperate dream in action
This seems like a good thing for this couple. Work hard for 3-4 months then take a month or so to recover/travel. I’m glad they are making the best out of the challenges they’ve faced.
Living the “American Dream”. America greatest country of the world!! People live in automobiles! Lol
The quality of life in the US got ruined when Nixon signed the 1972 trade deal with China. Wall St /investors prospered while US labor force turned into a cheap commodity. And healthcare has become very expensive.