I think it fits the idea of a demigod more. A mix of both like Maui. More than a man, but not exactly a full-fledged god like Lono, or Ku that represent an idea.
Nice! I haven't heard the story in this version, so much more detailed. Im part of the Mataisau clan in Bau (carpenter clan descendants of Rokola the clan from this story)...I wish i new the story of how we ended up in Bau
I always get the idea that Fiji has a separate lore from Maori, Samoan, and Hawaiian cultures. I grew up in Hawaii, and heard the Maui creation stories often, and heard similar stories concerning him in other areas of Polynesia except Fiji. I've never heard of this snake god legend before, and I wonder if there might a relation to the Mexican Quetzlcoatl (sp?). Both are also the head of a pantheon. It's worth researching.
This is the Melanesian side of Fijian mythology. A lot of ancient Fijian Gods are only found within Fiji tbh. Though some of our “Gods” do share similarities with some Polynesian Gods
Can you kindly point me in the right direction? Are their ancestral memories and ancient stories related to serpents/snakes in Hawaiian culture? I'm new to this and trying to find teachings specific to Hawaiian culture.
I just remember the "Hawaiiana" stories we were taught in Elementary school. I figure those should be widely available on the internet. Snakes are not native to Hawaii so I don't think a snake god would native to here. It just sounds old that a snake god would have sprung up anywhere in Polynesia. I'd like to know "if it were so, are there any similarities to Quetzelcoatl, and where did the idea occur first".
@rare.phukin.spotted.halibut Thanks for responding to me. It fascinates me that the ancestors taught about snakes/serpents when they are not native to Hawaii. The internet has been a wild goose chase for me. So much overlaps and conflicts and confuses
This story is not a talanoa, it's a itukuni. It doesn't translate to myths or legendary folk tale. It's real except eons old. The itukuni must be refined and retold better. The original inhabitants of Viti were baige, i.e. fair skinned. It was the arrival of Lutunasobasoba contingent 3,500 years ago who left Egypt arriving in Viseisei, Vuda that integrated dark skin into the archipelago. Followed by the establishing and reign of the Verata state.
You either serve Satan or Jesus, either lightness or darkness, either truth or lies, like jesus is the way the truth the life, heavens and earth will disappear but my words will never disappear WORD OF GOD NOT MAN GENESIS TO REVELATION ❤❤
io rogoca vakaitalanoa mai na yasayasa vaka Ra na kenai talanoa vakaviti mai vua e dua nakawa nei Rokola.meda kilai keda vinaka tiko na kai Viti au vakadinata nai talanoa qo dodonu meda kila tiko. vinaka vakalevu naì talanoa kei na kenai yaloyalo rau na lesu dina mai Vinaka.😮
Lets live in harmony, peace. History was very hard, remembering yesterday will make matters worse. Lets live in the presence, 21 st century now i guess 🎉😊
The flood...fijian version of the great flood. Great Flood myth are present in most cultural traditions arpund the world from the Bible to ancient Greeks, Incas, Ancient Chinese folklore,etc etc
It fable that about this the powerful chief Lutunasobasoba and his people followed the trade cross the Indian Ocean traveling south east Asia settled Fiji Island 1st century cushites from Ethiopia settle in Tanganyika 10th century AD about this time the fable of fijian from Tanganyika ( Chronological History man in Tanganyika)
Wrong..Fijian giants colonised Egypt who loaded huge stone slabs at the base of those pyramids on their huge double hulled canoes nd shipped them over to Egypt. They did that.with north coasts of Africa's civilisation and the rest of the world. Your small Khufu boats can't load those huge stones. Remember the ones who built the Egyptian pyramids also built the American pyramids, Cambodian pyramids, Chinese pyramids, Indian pyramids, Bosnian pyramids, Indonesian pyramids, Fijian pyramid nd Hawaiian pyramid. So, they need big boats to load those huge stone slabs at the bases and construct the Pacific island ones..Shove that in your head.
Wrong..Fijian giants colonised Egypt who loaded huge stone slabs at the base of those pyramids on their huge double hulled canoes nd shipped them over to Egypt. They did that.with north coasts of Africa's civilisation and the rest of the world. Your small Khufu boats can't load those huge stones. Remember the ones who built the Egyptian pyramids also built the American pyramids, Cambodian pyramids, Chinese pyramids, Indian pyramids, Bosnian pyramids, Indonesian pyramids, Fijian pyramid nd Hawaiian pyramid. So, they need big boats to load those huge stone slabs at the bases and construct the Pacific island ones..Shove that in your head.
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Degei is a Person. Not a snake. Get your facts right.
@ 3:18 the script states he was a man.
He was a man that turned God and was venerated by our ancestors. Get your facts right
You haven't clarified whether these were mere mortals or ancestral spirits or guardian angels or gods (small 'g').
I think it fits the idea of a demigod more. A mix of both like Maui. More than a man, but not exactly a full-fledged god like Lono, or Ku that represent an idea.
You people twisted and changed the story. Adding Ai to make it true lol
Nice! I haven't heard the story in this version, so much more detailed. Im part of the Mataisau clan in Bau (carpenter clan descendants of Rokola the clan from this story)...I wish i new the story of how we ended up in Bau
Turukawa is not a pigeon...its a rooster 🤦🤦🤦 alot of bullshit in this story
😂😂😂brrrrrr
😂😂
I always get the idea that Fiji has a separate lore from Maori, Samoan, and Hawaiian cultures. I grew up in Hawaii, and heard the Maui creation stories often, and heard similar stories concerning him in other areas of Polynesia except Fiji. I've never heard of this snake god legend before, and I wonder if there might a relation to the Mexican Quetzlcoatl (sp?). Both are also the head of a pantheon. It's worth researching.
The Melanesia side of feegee
This is the Melanesian side of Fijian mythology. A lot of ancient Fijian Gods are only found within Fiji tbh. Though some of our “Gods” do share similarities with some Polynesian Gods
Can you kindly point me in the right direction? Are their ancestral memories and ancient stories related to serpents/snakes in Hawaiian culture? I'm new to this and trying to find teachings specific to Hawaiian culture.
I just remember the "Hawaiiana" stories we were taught in Elementary school. I figure those should be widely available on the internet. Snakes are not native to Hawaii so I don't think a snake god would native to here. It just sounds old that a snake god would have sprung up anywhere in Polynesia. I'd like to know "if it were so, are there any similarities to Quetzelcoatl, and where did the idea occur first".
@rare.phukin.spotted.halibut Thanks for responding to me. It fascinates me that the ancestors taught about snakes/serpents when they are not native to Hawaii. The internet has been a wild goose chase for me. So much overlaps and conflicts and confuses
"Degei" is pronounced Deng-ey... Not "En-den-gay"
This story is not a talanoa, it's a itukuni. It doesn't translate to myths or legendary folk tale. It's real except eons old. The itukuni must be refined and retold better.
The original inhabitants of Viti were baige, i.e. fair skinned. It was the arrival of Lutunasobasoba contingent 3,500 years ago who left Egypt arriving in Viseisei, Vuda that integrated dark skin into the archipelago. Followed by the establishing and reign of the Verata state.
I'm fijian , I know a person who has defeated these fallen gods ,his name is JESUS🙏🕊
You either serve Satan or Jesus, either lightness or darkness, either truth or lies, like jesus is the way the truth the life, heavens and earth will disappear but my words will never disappear WORD OF GOD NOT MAN GENESIS TO REVELATION ❤❤
Love the pronunciations
io rogoca vakaitalanoa mai na yasayasa vaka Ra na kenai talanoa vakaviti mai vua e dua nakawa nei Rokola.meda kilai keda vinaka tiko na kai Viti au vakadinata nai talanoa qo dodonu meda kila tiko.
vinaka vakalevu naì talanoa kei na kenai yaloyalo rau na lesu dina mai
Vinaka.😮
Nakauvadra , Fijis M.t Olympus
Nakauvadra Is Fijis Sacred Mountains 😊
Con taka
Degei sounds like Dagon .
Lets live in harmony, peace. History was very hard, remembering yesterday will make matters worse. Lets live in the presence, 21 st century now i guess 🎉😊
En dan gay
Wow cool
I love these
The flood...fijian version of the great flood.
Great Flood myth are present in most cultural traditions arpund the world from the Bible to ancient Greeks, Incas, Ancient Chinese folklore,etc etc
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ISAIAH 11:11 Kush from Island pacific Fiji
Kaiveti very good people bit late to understand them god bless you all
Fiji is a good island 1:38
It fable that about this the powerful chief Lutunasobasoba and his people followed the trade cross the Indian Ocean traveling south east Asia settled Fiji Island
1st century cushites from Ethiopia settle in Tanganyika
10th century AD about this time the fable of fijian from Tanganyika
( Chronological History man in Tanganyika)
Wait you forgot about ET
Lutunasobasoba Hebrew culture tradition circumcision culture tradition custom
True plus the story of the "Kato ni mana" sounds very similar to the ark of the covenant
Nice video thanks
Lutunasobasoba curly hair black skin
Wavolitivuravura is his true name.
Cushites- Egypt - Rufiji Tanganyika and fiji Island pacific
Wrong..Fijian giants colonised Egypt who loaded huge stone slabs at the base of those pyramids on their huge double hulled canoes nd shipped them over to Egypt. They did that.with north coasts of Africa's civilisation and the rest of the world. Your small Khufu boats can't load those huge stones. Remember the ones who built the Egyptian pyramids also built the American pyramids, Cambodian pyramids, Chinese pyramids, Indian pyramids, Bosnian pyramids, Indonesian pyramids, Fijian pyramid nd Hawaiian pyramid. So, they need big boats to load those huge stone slabs at the bases and construct the Pacific island ones..Shove that in your head.
All is real but translate in hindi
Gt version of Fijian Legend.
RUFIJI RIVER TANGANYIKA PACIFIC ISLAND PACIFIC FIJI
Wrong..Fijian giants colonised Egypt who loaded huge stone slabs at the base of those pyramids on their huge double hulled canoes nd shipped them over to Egypt. They did that.with north coasts of Africa's civilisation and the rest of the world. Your small Khufu boats can't load those huge stones. Remember the ones who built the Egyptian pyramids also built the American pyramids, Cambodian pyramids, Chinese pyramids, Indian pyramids, Bosnian pyramids, Indonesian pyramids, Fijian pyramid nd Hawaiian pyramid. So, they need big boats to load those huge stone slabs at the bases and construct the Pacific island ones..Shove that in your head.
This story is full of bullshit and lies 😏