I got to say I feel so bad for the 19-year-olds mother because that was meant to be her spot and she gave it to her son look what happened I guarantee not a day goes by but she that she doesn't regrets sending her 19 year old son😢😢😢
@@Mr_Bute they’re an extremely rich family, if it went to a charity, but I think it’s still in bad taste. I totally agree and have considered that many times, how awful she must feel. The other day I heard her say her son was excited, but id also heard he was terrified, I wouldn’t have gone on it as a teen…younger or older. I don’t think I could have dealt with it knowing I gave him my ‘ticket’
I think the model is VERY bad taste, despite the pretty weak justification from the creator for its existence. Find something ELSE to get your dollars from.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 I actually see a difference between the two events being depicted by models. Having a model which SUBMERGES somehow is more morbid to me than a model of Titanic. I’ve yet to see a Titanic model where it has a feature where it “sinks”.
Agreed, & it's not even comparable to a company selling models of a ship disaster over 100 years ago (like the other reply says). those things are tastefully and respectfully done eg: Lego Titanic. it's a better comparison to say it's like selling Twin Towers models after 911 while NYC is still grieving.
The titan model makes me uncomfortable.. it’s gimmicky on top of this tragic story, a 19 year old, his father and 3 other men died in that thing…. A toy model is tasteless and insulting.
@@zackjay71 The difference is the titanic was over a century ago. I’ve never heard of any plane that crashed and people died selling models of that exact plane, there was one of those death traps made. Planes on the other hand are different and numerous are manufactured
I love the bath toy, Its just cute and hillarious, kind of ironic that it does works hahaha. Cmon people, dont feel sorry for any billionarie but the child
In otherwords they were concerned about money and didn't want to refund money to the passengers so they decided money was more important than lives and safety.
You have to expect a certain amount of self-serving testimony regarding a situation like this. People will say and do what the think they need to do to try to justify themselves. Nobody wants to be left holding the bag on this one.
My gut from the beginning said he did it on purpose and fooled everyone around him. I will always think of this as a murder suicide. It's even in the name...
I really didn’t think the model Titan sub mentioned in the comments was tacky or inappropriate until I found out it actually dives underwater. I’m not offended, but I find the idea of a fake version of the Titan that actually dives and surfaces as designed when the real one didn’t to be… interesting.
Yes at times it does feel like many folks are trying to put all blame on Rush to protect themselves from any blame. Which does make one suspicious. And also how many do make it sound like the knowledge pool wasn't very good.
People complain about the model, i aint seen anyone complain about the Titanic models out there or the Bismarck`s. Model is f-ing A-grade, a bit pricy but yeah cool conversation piece
Giving away a 3D printed model of a badly designed and built submersible sure seem ghoulish. But RUclips has no actual decency requirements. Not allowing certain words like R.A.P.E. in police reports has nothing to do with decency.
1:34 "an exclusive 3D printed model of the Oceangate submersible" This "exclusive" model is stolen from Alpaca3d on Etsy, who sells it at half this price. He orders from them and has them ship it to you and pockets the difference. This is not his "exclusive".
Yes there’s no doubt that were he alive he’d be facing multiple manslaughter charges but there were plenty who went along with him. At Theranos Elizabeth Holmes came up with a bad idea, many who tried to help her make it work either walked away or were fired when they said they couldn’t. Those who stayed until the end even though they knew it was a scam were just as culpable, same applies here.
He’s explained why, it’s to never forget what happened and to honor the victims with said model. Get a grip not everyone has bad intentions and making money isn’t a crime. Goofball 😮
There was a witness that testified that the passengers saw themselves as explorers. Treated this as an unavoidable tragedy isn't doing them any real justice. I'd love one of those subs so that I can remember the Titan and reflect on my own risks in life.
It reminds me of the novel Jurassic Park to be honest. Big magnate, company losing money and investors, rushing to get result, they died due to the latter, everybody blamed the magnate.
If you are viewing these types of videos then you have zero right to complain about the Titan model. These videos about the Titan are in of themselves dramatised entertainment based on tragedy for which the creator gets paid money for via advertising. You can read the actual reports but you like seeing the dramatised versions by RUclips creators, you are the issue.
Thanks for another update. I love how candid you are. Makes me really laugh!! It's f-ing tragic what has happened. He's a murderer and that's that. And poor David Lockridge, OHSA have got ALOT to answer for- along with the rest of the OG team that are STILL covering for that idiotic delusional murderer. Arggh it's so frustrating and sad 😠😔
Complaining about models is tacky. How many people have models of titanic. Baseball cards with former players who are passed. Like for real. This is ridiculous
There is not one redeeming or high quality feature or person about this whole affair. Including the victims. Excludes those that left over disagreements and whistleblowers.
Id advise you to look up Hamish Harding’s philanthropy in fighting malaria and protecting endangered species, PH Nargeolet’s decades of contributions to Titanic and oceanic research, Shazada Dawoods work in fighting the pandemic in India, and the heartfelt words left by people who knew his son Suleman. Then think about what you’ve done in life so far, and reevaluate who has redeeming qualities or not.
@@slickest123452 I’m quite proud of my C.V. And record of helping others in this world, and appreciative of those who have done as much and much more. I made an observation based on empirical evidence as regards a series of objectively poor decisions made for no good reason, with no good excuse, and give credit to the coast guard’s competent work. And your point is that I should humble myself before you and consider my own misdeeds and shortcomings? Ok.👌 They seemed to need a little help doing the same. And if you feel uncomfortable or guilty working for anyone but stay and take the money, then that is a failure of character that needs to be called out.
Motive is very important to understand, as the signs of impending destruction were ignored repeatedly, even as Karl Stanley wanted to explain. These concerns no rational minded person could ignore if the idea was to take paid customers to see the Titanic, 12,000 feet on the ocean floor. Titan was an amateur submersible at its best, not built for such depths or for commercial use. It had issues on the majority of dives, along with explosions from pressure damage to the hull's carbon fiber. Every warning was given to them and they were ignored. As Karl Stanley wanted to point out, from a business standpoint it made no sense whatsoever. The impending destruction and crucial safety concerns were repeatedly ignored, which couldn't make any sense if the goal was what Stockton Rush portrayed to the public.
Everybody in that company who didn’t blow the whistle on this death trap is partly responsible for what happened. These people were happy enough to take their paycheck and send customers to their deaths. Evil evil people.
So all models of every ship or submarine that sunk are in bad taste?? What is really in bad taste is submersibles taking customers that do not meet any safety standards? Or governing bodies not feeling responsible enough to do anything about it when it mattered?
Question now is did it impact the seafloor and the front titanium cover come off like it previously on the ship when they dropped it and the bolts broke and it fell off.
How many bolts were fastened to attach the viewport dome on that last dive? Four, like when that front dome fell off on the platform, or up to - and including - all eighteen?
According to testimony, they would come into port. Then unload that weeks "Mission Specialist" who all paid to go down. The employee's work around the clock, and are asked to hold off a while on getting paid? If I did that with my guys, I would lose those guys rather fast. Those are the people who make it possible, and are the first ones to get paid. They never stayed in port, doing dive after dive. Sounds like people were on the platform working on that sub while under tow. Some people went all the way out to the site, and the sub was unusable for various reasons. Sounds like you paid whether you dove or not. Mostly OR NOT Missions. They should have never left port with a broken sub. They knew it wasn't useable, but they still took them out so he could keep their money. Dude was a serious scammer. Playing fast and loose is no problem. Until you start doing that with other peoples lives! Ask people what their specialty was, they say getting a wrench!
The only stockton mistake was rushing the billionaires' implosion scheme, it ended too early, should have sent more billionaires down there to make fish soup 😂😂😂
Stockton is like Hitler for the Nazis, just put all blame on him. I am 100% certain Stockton was obsessed and at least borderline crazy about Titanic and sub`s - big dream, expensive dreams.. So cutting corners with latest high tech and bling bling turned out catastrophic. You take a certain risk when you enter a experimental vessel and decend to almost 4000 meter depth - iacta alea est, hig tech russian roulette with a hint of carbon fibre and epoxy.. I would never got into that thingy, never less pay several 100K USD. If people are rich, stupid and want exclusive fresh shit for Tik-Tok i guess this is the limit
Offering a model of the Titan is nothing short of despicable. How can you possibly justify this crass insensitivity? How on earth do you sleep at night? You're simply not human, not at all.
Mate I'm all for dark and deranged humour, but your ad for the 3d printed model of the Titan is... not exactly the best. Imagine selling a model of the Titanic for your bath sessions, that just so happens to have a feature to break in half. Yeaaaaah....
Stockton's fault for everything But it is also the fault of those also who died with him. They made choice's to go knowing the outcome could be deadly. They signed the waver and died doing so. Talk about a very expensive death R.I.P TO THE 5🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Billionairs are unethincal because they put money above people. The disaster happened because stocton put money over people. And this creator wants to follow that example shilling a model of the thing. Ugh.
just goes to show nobody don't care but try to make some money on somebody that died in a submersible every time you play with this toy to think about how the tragedy that happened !!! now the model is at $39.99 oh my God go ahead and buy this submersible toy but think about who died in it we all know who ignored the rules he was playing with death and he took others for no reason!!!!!!
I got to say I feel so bad for the 19-year-olds mother because that was meant to be her spot and she gave it to her son look what happened I guarantee not a day goes by but she that she doesn't regrets sending her 19 year old son😢😢😢
I would venture to guess she deeply regrets her family's involvement in any way with Oceangate. A sad story.
Proceeds of model should go to Christine Dawood.
@@Mr_Bute they’re an extremely rich family, if it went to a charity, but I think it’s still in bad taste.
I totally agree and have considered that many times, how awful she must feel. The other day I heard her say her son was excited, but id also heard he was terrified, I wouldn’t have gone on it as a teen…younger or older. I don’t think I could have dealt with it knowing I gave him my ‘ticket’
I think the model is VERY bad taste, despite the pretty weak justification from the creator for its existence. Find something ELSE to get your dollars from.
I would guess that you’re not into a model of Titanic either then? 🤔
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 I actually see a difference between the two events being depicted by models. Having a model which SUBMERGES somehow is more morbid to me than a model of Titanic. I’ve yet to see a Titanic model where it has a feature where it “sinks”.
Agreed, & it's not even comparable to a company selling models of a ship disaster over 100 years ago (like the other reply says). those things are tastefully and respectfully done eg: Lego Titanic. it's a better comparison to say it's like selling Twin Towers models after 911 while NYC is still grieving.
I think so, too, but money overrides everything in this society. In fact, the video(s) haven't been very good. I think they exist to sell the model.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447
TOO SOON
NOT COOL
The titan model makes me uncomfortable.. it’s gimmicky on top of this tragic story, a 19 year old, his father and 3 other men died in that thing…. A toy model is tasteless and insulting.
I think it’s bad taste too, I certainly wouldn’t give it to a child as a bath toy
Sawft. Its no different then Titanic models and model planes etc. and such.
Have some dark humor for once 😐
Okay quick question do you own a Che Guevara shirt, poster etc
@@zackjay71 The difference is the titanic was over a century ago. I’ve never heard of any plane that crashed and people died selling models of that exact plane, there was one of those death traps made. Planes on the other hand are different and numerous are manufactured
Does the model also implode?
And does it come with mission specialists? 😏
I said the same thing
Just don’t bring it to your bathtub 😅
The imploding model costs more but you have to pay for it in bitcoin to avoid taxes 😂
😅
I love the bath toy, Its just cute and hillarious, kind of ironic that it does works hahaha. Cmon people, dont feel sorry for any billionarie but the child
It's way too soon to be merchandizing this.
@@jakethepillowsnake5302says who karen
In otherwords they were concerned about money and didn't want to refund money to the passengers so they decided money was more important than lives and safety.
You have to expect a certain amount of self-serving testimony regarding a situation like this. People will say and do what the think they need to do to try to justify themselves. Nobody wants to be left holding the bag on this one.
Yep. Nicely said.
A piece of deep sea EXPIRATION you mean
Your point is well-taken.
Good one
Maybe stop using the same thumbnail for every video?
Exactly 💯
The thumbnail isn’t the worst. Idk about this video I’m not very far in but he has gotten a lot wrong in previous videos
And the titles are all “NEW DISTURBING DETAILS” 😂
@@96per58 or "STORY COMPLETELY CHANGED" lol
My gut from the beginning said he did it on purpose and fooled everyone around him. I will always think of this as a murder suicide.
It's even in the name...
Sicko. The making of the model.
@@graceyoakum8863 ya, I can't say I like the idea of owning a replica of the murder weapon.
@@p4p3rm4t3dont buy one then cry baby
I have to say that your pitch for a 3d model of the Titan is in extremely poor taste!!
If say your taste sux and might be non existent
Why? I think it looks cute and whimsical 😊
@@sharonreid Sharon I agree, I keep seeing well the titanic was made into a model blah blah…that was over a century ago
The same as folks wearing the rosemary and still committing sins
If you think it's in poor taste, don't buy one. Don't think you can tell others how to feel about it.
Rush by name..rush by nature..
Rushed by nature...
dont stop using the same thumbnail.. it makes it soo easier to know its your video specifically
It gets confusing because I think I've already watched the video
Stockton was a psychopath who did what psychopaths do endangered and harmed others.
I would agree, he was a narcissist* (thank-you Otto Korrect*!)
I really didn’t think the model Titan sub mentioned in the comments was tacky or inappropriate until I found out it actually dives underwater. I’m not offended, but I find the idea of a fake version of the Titan that actually dives and surfaces as designed when the real one didn’t to be… interesting.
That Titan model is awesome. Would love to buy one for my kid to play with during bath time
And they won't implode either.
@@corriethomson4431 THIS is why the model is in bad taste, while models of Titanic aren’t…
Yes at times it does feel like many folks are trying to put all blame on Rush to protect themselves from any blame. Which does make one suspicious. And also how many do make it sound like the knowledge pool wasn't very good.
People complain about the model, i aint seen anyone complain about the Titanic models out there or the Bismarck`s.
Model is f-ing A-grade, a bit pricy but yeah cool conversation piece
I want a after model
Does it implode in the bathtub?
Are you related to the maker of said sub?
The titanic was 100 years ago , and the people directly affected are long gone. You really can't understand a difference?
@@nukkinfuts6550 See my comment as to why models of the Titanic and Bismarck differ to this model with regards to good and bad taste.
Every time I see the add for the toy Titan sub I cringe and think, man that's pretty tasteless.
Tasteless is knowingly using that sub with lives at stake. Rush knew. Everyone knew, yet just pretended like a roulette table
@@Sig_P229 I’d call that criminal myself.
Nah, it's just a model. Tasteless would be using it as a jam pot.
It takes money and time to make videos, people have to monetize to keep going.
@@Hercule_Holmesit tastes like pennies.
"Titan would eventually fail but continued to dive with the belief that he would not be held accountable" I got shivers down my spine
3d Printing the titan in it’s current state would be awesome
Am I the only one that likes the model ?😅
I love it too. Its no different than only a model of the Titanic or baseball cards of players that are no longer living.
@@zackjay71 very true , it’s abit of history now
Sad but true
I like it too 😅
Giving away a 3D printed model of a badly designed and built submersible sure seem ghoulish. But RUclips has no actual decency requirements. Not allowing certain words like R.A.P.E. in police reports has nothing to do with decency.
1:34 "an exclusive 3D printed model of the Oceangate submersible"
This "exclusive" model is stolen from Alpaca3d on Etsy, who sells it at half this price.
He orders from them and has them ship it to you and pockets the difference.
This is not his "exclusive".
And all the other models of ships that went down during the times? Are they just as tasteless?
Yup. Rush is dead so everything's gonna be put on him.
It is all his fault
There is a lot of blame to go around but he was the the head of the party.
@@mediawarrior5957 no plenty of blame to go round to those working under him
Yes there’s no doubt that were he alive he’d be facing multiple manslaughter charges but there were plenty who went along with him. At Theranos Elizabeth Holmes came up with a bad idea, many who tried to help her make it work either walked away or were fired when they said they couldn’t. Those who stayed until the end even though they knew it was a scam were just as culpable, same applies here.
@@mediawarrior5957 right so rush had nothing but mindless children that couldn't speak up about these deadly flaws.
Good to know I’m not the only one who’s unsettled by the toy models
You're selling models of thr Titan?! 😂 Gross. "DO NOT RECOMMEND CHANNEL."
He’s explained why, it’s to never forget what happened and to honor the victims with said model. Get a grip not everyone has bad intentions and making money isn’t a crime. Goofball 😮
There was a witness that testified that the passengers saw themselves as explorers.
Treated this as an unavoidable tragedy isn't doing them any real justice.
I'd love one of those subs so that I can remember the Titan and reflect on my own risks in life.
I want a model that implodes under water just like the real one.
@@tonyklick5919 Don’t ever enter a career requiring COMPASSION, Ok?
Needs more carbon fiber 😂😂
@@tilly6973OK!
It reminds me of the novel Jurassic Park to be honest. Big magnate, company losing money and investors, rushing to get result, they died due to the latter, everybody blamed the magnate.
If you are viewing these types of videos then you have zero right to complain about the Titan model.
These videos about the Titan are in of themselves dramatised entertainment based on tragedy for which the creator gets paid money for via advertising.
You can read the actual reports but you like seeing the dramatised versions by RUclips creators, you are the issue.
Facts
Thanks for another update. I love how candid you are. Makes me really laugh!! It's f-ing tragic what has happened. He's a murderer and that's that.
And poor David Lockridge, OHSA have got ALOT to answer for- along with the rest of the OG team that are STILL covering for that idiotic delusional murderer.
Arggh it's so frustrating and sad 😠😔
Defer my paycheck to help the company out in hard times? WOW that’s a new one…
New details....ok, lets block this channel
the selling of the model is rather tacky
Selling that model is A-grade!
@@nukkinfuts6550 I totally agree - A-grade tool.
Yeah cheap and silly
Complaining about models is tacky. How many people have models of titanic. Baseball cards with former players who are passed. Like for real. This is ridiculous
@@TheBevo67No , complaining about something modeled in honor is the real problem.
"Rush (Crush) wanted to leave his mark on history"...more like he left a stain or a smudge.
It seems Rushs attitude was that if you want safety he would sue you! He ordered ppl to be quiet about concerns or get sued!!!
0:18 Processes and processeeeeeees 🤣
I, for one, believe Ms. Wilby, not this other woman.
There is not one redeeming or high quality feature or person about this whole affair. Including the victims. Excludes those that left over disagreements and whistleblowers.
What about the creator and producer of this channel? Isn't it redeeming how much he shills a 3d printed model of the death machine coffin?
@@porkmilk8984 yeah. lol. No winners here, at least until the Coast Guard issues recommendations that save lives in the future.
Id advise you to look up Hamish Harding’s philanthropy in fighting malaria and protecting endangered species, PH Nargeolet’s decades of contributions to Titanic and oceanic research, Shazada Dawoods work in fighting the pandemic in India, and the heartfelt words left by people who knew his son Suleman. Then think about what you’ve done in life so far, and reevaluate who has redeeming qualities or not.
@@slickest123452 I’m quite proud of my C.V. And record of helping others in this world, and appreciative of those who have done as much and much more. I made an observation based on empirical evidence as regards a series of objectively poor decisions made for no good reason, with no good excuse, and give credit to the coast guard’s competent work. And your point is that I should humble myself before you and consider my own misdeeds and shortcomings? Ok.👌
They seemed to need a little help doing the same. And if you feel uncomfortable or guilty working for anyone but stay and take the money, then that is a failure of character that needs to be called out.
I want to know if Rush had a diary of maintenance of the Titan.
Surely if the Titan was a experimental vessel, there will be a record.
All people complaing about selling bath toy here might not see "911 memes" yet.
This is kinda hilarious though.
Motive is very important to understand, as the signs of impending destruction were ignored repeatedly, even as Karl Stanley wanted to explain. These concerns no rational minded person could ignore if the idea was to take paid customers to see the Titanic, 12,000 feet on the ocean floor. Titan was an amateur submersible at its best, not built for such depths or for commercial use. It had issues on the majority of dives, along with explosions from pressure damage to the hull's carbon fiber. Every warning was given to them and they were ignored. As Karl Stanley wanted to point out, from a business standpoint it made no sense whatsoever. The impending destruction and crucial safety concerns were repeatedly ignored, which couldn't make any sense if the goal was what Stockton Rush portrayed to the public.
Everybody in that company who didn’t blow the whistle on this death trap is partly responsible for what happened. These people were happy enough to take their paycheck and send customers to their deaths. Evil evil people.
All of the top staff at Oceangate should go to jail IMO. That's what would happen if the accident occurred within U.S.. jurisdiction.
So all models of every ship or submarine that sunk are in bad taste?? What is really in bad taste is submersibles taking customers that do not meet any safety standards? Or governing bodies not feeling responsible enough to do anything about it when it mattered?
How about selling models of other submersibles, those that actually worked, like the one James Cameron rode in.
Question now is did it impact the seafloor and the front titanium cover come off like it previously on the ship when they dropped it and the bolts broke and it fell off.
How many bolts were fastened to attach the viewport dome on that last dive? Four, like when that front dome fell off on the platform, or up to - and including - all eighteen?
The pressure means the front dome was being pushed onto the submersible with incredible force, once underwater the bolts were more or less irrelevant.
According to testimony, they would come into port. Then unload that weeks "Mission Specialist" who all paid to go down. The employee's work around the clock, and are asked to hold off a while on getting paid? If I did that with my guys, I would lose those guys rather fast. Those are the people who make it possible, and are the first ones to get paid. They never stayed in port, doing dive after dive. Sounds like people were on the platform working on that sub while under tow. Some people went all the way out to the site, and the sub was unusable for various reasons. Sounds like you paid whether you dove or not. Mostly OR NOT Missions. They should have never left port with a broken sub. They knew it wasn't useable, but they still took them out so he could keep their money. Dude was a serious scammer. Playing fast and loose is no problem. Until you start doing that with other peoples lives! Ask people what their specialty was, they say getting a wrench!
The only stockton mistake was rushing the billionaires' implosion scheme, it ended too early, should have sent more billionaires down there to make fish soup 😂😂😂
The people that agreed to no pay we so gullible wtf lmfao L
If only Stockton died, would you guys still be upset about the model?
Stockton is like Hitler for the Nazis, just put all blame on him. I am 100% certain Stockton was obsessed and at least borderline crazy about Titanic and sub`s - big dream, expensive dreams.. So cutting corners with latest high tech and bling bling turned out catastrophic.
You take a certain risk when you enter a experimental vessel and decend to almost 4000 meter depth - iacta alea est, hig tech russian roulette with a hint of carbon fibre and epoxy..
I would never got into that thingy, never less pay several 100K USD. If people are rich, stupid and want exclusive fresh shit for Tik-Tok i guess this is the limit
It's hilrious and oh so ironic because that thing only ever looked like a kiddies bath toy!🛀😅
Weren’t you originally selling that 3d printed titan for $79.99?
He was
Offering a model of the Titan is nothing short of despicable. How can you possibly justify this crass insensitivity? How on earth do you sleep at night? You're simply not human, not at all.
I know it's bad taste but I will only buy the toy if it can explode
No... BS
Stockton went alone on first titan dive..........enough said
Mate I'm all for dark and deranged humour, but your ad for the 3d printed model of the Titan is... not exactly the best. Imagine selling a model of the Titanic for your bath sessions, that just so happens to have a feature to break in half. Yeaaaaah....
Does the model implode?
Stockton's fault for everything
But it is also the fault of those also who died with him. They made choice's to go knowing the outcome could be deadly. They signed the waver and died doing so. Talk about a very expensive death
R.I.P TO THE 5🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Rush was a psychopath
Billionairs are unethincal because they put money above people. The disaster happened because stocton put money over people. And this creator wants to follow that example shilling a model of the thing. Ugh.
new??????
A toy for oceangate titan is WILLDDDDDD 😭⚰️🛁
Disaster Strike are monsters for selling the TItan models. I'm interested in the story but not even going to watch your video. Repulsive.
Should be illegal . How is this possible
just goes to show nobody don't care but try to make some money on somebody that died in a submersible every time you play with this toy to think about how the tragedy that happened !!! now the model is at $39.99 oh my God go ahead and buy this submersible toy but think about who died in it we all know who ignored the rules he was playing with death and he took others for no reason!!!!!!
Have you thought about making a Transformers-style model that "folds inwards"? 🤔🫣