HARLEY DAVIDSON DEALERSHIPS SCAMS & TRICKS
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Uncover the hidden practices at Harley Davidson dealerships in this revealing video. We dive deep into the common scams and tricks some dealers use to take advantage of unsuspecting customers. From padded repair bills to unnecessary service recommendations and misleading financing options, learn how to spot and avoid these deceptive tactics. Whether you’re a seasoned rider or a first-time buyer, this video is essential to ensure you’re not getting ripped off at your local dealership.
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Just walked out of a Harley dealer today asking about a street glide, the finance guy brought me a price on a street glide standard at 28,000 and when I called him out on the markup he started claiming things about the radio not being included and seat etc. I told him there was no need to waste anymore time and I was leaving then he started saying we could talk at msrp but had no intention of starting there. Also their website had a 2500 trade in bonus on new models from harley and they still low balled me on my trade by a thousand less. I’ve lost all hope for any Harley dealership because this is all over the place. Plus this guys attitude when I questioned him was so bad he started smarting off and asking for more than he could handle. Terrible experience and I don’t plan on doing that ever again.
All those hd dealerships are a joke brother, the saleswoman that did my financing was a complete idiot, didnt even know how credit scores work
I walked out too was trying to get my ultra classic fixed and instead of telling me what I needed wrote down a bunch of stuff it needed to scare me into buying a new one
Until you (the customer) sign on the dotted line, there is no deal. Just like one of the other commenters said, "Don't be afraid to walk away from the table."
No different than buying a car or truck. Always be prepared to walk away. Its that simple.
I walked away yesterday! So glad I did. The shenanigans were off the wall. I am a veteran at buying cars. The games were hilarious.
Hahaha
Exactly!!
AGREED, but unfortunately we have too many stupid Californians living in Idaho who pay whatever the dealer is asking.
By lightly used from a individual, get local financing, the best option, avoid stealerships...
The biggest scam is Harley asking prices !
Walked into a Harley dealership to find my first Harley and left with nothing. There wasn’t any prices on the bikes and every time I asked about a specific bike they said they had to do the paperwork to get the price. It’s all a scam to get an idea of what your willing to spend and then they pull a number out of their ass.
That's the same tactic Orlando HD did to me. I was forced to do a credit application to see their price. Then they jack up their prices. Bunch of scamming devils.
The same here, yesterday I was with my friend who is looking at getting a bagger and they didn't have any prices at all on any of their bikes. They kept wanting to get him out on a test ride but we didn't bring any gear and said that they could provide the helmet, my friend even talked a little bit about their financing terms etc... and he was totally vague about it, couldn't really tell you interest rates at all just that it varies with your credit and then something about a balloon payment at the end to which you could buy it outright, trade up for another new bike or just hand it back in to them, he didn't say anything about a lease but that's what it sounded exactly like to me and you don't own the bike but more or less paying for the privilege to ride it.
I don't really understand it but he was saying the 2024 models are cheaper than the 2023 and currently there aren't really any incentives for purchasing the older models. I can't really speak for H-D but the japanese bikes always offer discounts and incentives on the leftover models that hasn't sold, depending on the bike it's typically anywhere from $500-$1500 off. Evidently the story is that owners of the 2023 models are extremely upset and killed the value on their bikes, they've added more stuff into the 2024 so now people don't want the older model.
bikes are best bought used. you can always find someone who bought one and is looking to sell it after just 1-200 miles
@user-iv3xj2fq7k The problem is when you are one of those people who bought a bike that does not fit. Trading in a low mileage bike is a nightmare.
Heard every one of them, and not sure how you get out of them. I just walked away, and that helped.
My dad & myself walked into a harley shop & there was no pricing on any of the bikes. So we asked a sell person what the price on a bike was... He had to take me to the sales manager & they started asking questions. I was like can you give me a ballpark price.. he said no... i said im just looking not buying today & his Response was if your not buying why do you want the price!!! I paused looked at my dad and said well i was going to buy 2 of them & before i buy i would like the price but since your so rude i will go else where & just walked out... Never been treated so rude at any dealership before...
That sounds like a frustrating experience. Customer service is so important in any business.
Cash is your freind when buying a bike used bikes are out there to be had at great prices
Thanks for the tip! Cash really does open up a lot of opportunities when it comes to buying used bikes at awesome prices.
They just got me with the sight of hand. Never again. Made me hate the bike I wanted so bad.
They don’t even tell you about hidden fees until you were sitting down going through the numbers ready to sign on the dotted line
Same here, HD had a new RG from the prior year for sale that was discontinued to 25k + another 2k credit. Then they added all the fees and add on’s and it came out 33,742 dollars
Been in many dealers. I’ve never been approached like this. And when I did buy a 23 nightster special for my wife at Z & M Harley. I never felt pressured, by any of the salesman.
You are lying.
@@gpcbr1000 maybe you carry yourself in a way that says don't do it.
I do, learned how not to be intimidated, and how to Intimidate. Works everytime.
I have owned many new and used bikes through the years and currently own a 2018 VMax and 2019 Fat Boy 114. I will never ever again buy a new Harley. Their prices arent in line and I will not buy into the mentality that I need to buy a new bike and then spend thoisands on "making it mine". The bikes always have tons of problems and Harley expects its customers to pay to fix them. Of all the motorcycles I have owned through the years, only the Harleys have given me problems - ONLY the Harleys.
Buy lightly used from a individual and get hometown financing, thats best...
I bought two new Harleys & got the expensive extended warranty on both . Only had one issue near the end of the extended warranty with my heated grips not working . Harley said the warranty did not cover that ….. wow . Ridiculous
Look have the FBI investigate them we need it
LOL, the FBI... WTF? First of all you have too much confidence in the FBI. Secondly, you must have never purchased a vehicle, especially a Polaris SxS.
No matter how good of a deal you think you’re getting, you’re still getting bent over !!
You get the ring the bell at least 😂 😉
@@openmindedillustrations7106 and still feel like every salesperson and the girls in motor clothes get to kick ya in the nuts hard😵
There is a Kelley blue book for motorcycles
What is the difference between buying a car or a motorcycle...?... about 40 grand... salesman tactics are the same...
This is in General, not specifically for Harley
But guys... They let me ring the bell and they all honked their horns for me 😂😂
I have a Harley, a Honda, and a Ducati. I would never in my life purchase a Harley Davidson new... What a joke
Hd dealerships set u up 4 failure truthfully...
I go to The Credit Union for financing, cheaper than conglomerate banks and def better than Harley financin.
ive never had a terrible experience at the HD dealearship but i have decided against entering them.
Which is the better front tire , the 16 or 21 inch ?
Yup the fees!!! Was going to buy my first HD and the mark up was $2500 for a used HD!!! I definitely tried to get them to come down, but they said it was industry standard!!!!!!! What else would be industry standard? A scam? So I walked away. I only want a HD for the sound and for a couples bike. I guess I will look to a Japanese bike.
MSRP includes prep and set up
They jack up the interest
Buy used from private sellers.
Harley dealerships are the worse!
Guess I ride a 20 yr motorcycle 02 victory v92 as big as an ultra 3/4 cheaper too ya this bike is not made any more but lots of after market parts
These are tactics that every salesman worth his salt uses.
Buying a motorcycle is fun. A great experience but not with a HD. Japanese and European dealers don't play stupid games. I bought 3 brand new Honda motorcycles. 25 years ago the HD dealer wanted $1,000 payment for the privilege of buying a Sportster. Told them to piss off. Got a good deal on a used one that I have had for 25 years.
Who needs a $1,000 "privilege fee" anyway? Sounds like you made the right choice with your used Sportster!
@@FASTLANETV14 Ironically I bought her knowing l would have lots of shops to service the bike. She has been so reliable and dependable transportation as l don't have a car. Now she's 25 years old and shops don't want to work on her. When my cylinder broke on the URAL nobody wanted to touch her. I did it myself. I had to. A real mechanic could have done it in 1 hour. It took me 2 hours to finish the job. The old man who would help me with the BMW's passed me tools and then checked everything and set the valves for me. 5 years later the same thing happened on the other side
This time it bent a rod so the crankshaft was replaced. Any independent shop could have done it. It costs me $250 to get the bike home 🏠. The shop could not phone me so they went ahead and did the job anyway. $1,250+ and the bike is running again. With a dead motor it was worth nothing but now she is back to normal now. Good to have her running again.
Just left one they told me a 24 RG 38,000 out the door because of vance and hines slip on after market air filter and heated grips 😂 wth
Just go to indian, I had same experience, went there and never looked back
If you do purchase Harley-Davidson motorcycle, I would advise that you avoid Harley-Davidson's insurance. I attempted to to acquire motorcycle insurance for my 2015 Harley-Davidson. I filled out all the information requested on their website and they gave me a quote of $108.00 for a 12 month policy which I was happy about. Then their site did a search and found that I had a previous insurance claim with my current vehicle, so my quote was increased to $780.00! I've had no accidents and no citations for over 15 years. The claim I had was due to a cracked windshield that I suffered from a truck that I was following which was no fault of mine. However, HD insurance penalize people for unfortunate situations that was not due to the operator's negligence. I will never, ever apply for another Harley-Davidson policy due to their moronic regulations. I always thought Harley stood up for their riders. Obviously they care more about money then they do their customers.
Grow a set of balls and tell them to step aside they'll act offended but bottom line the dealer always wins and now they use car dealership tactics. Thats why their 8 billion in the hole.
Hooligan HD in Oxford Alabama is the worst.
I actually got a good deal on a used 14 Roadking from there
.i might have got lucky
They have been hounding me for about 3weeks now lol
Just get up and leave. They will call you, don't go back unless you get YOUR deal.
If "your deal" involves the dealer trying to meet YOUR financial criteria and them having to overcome YOUR high interest, because of YOUR terrible credit, and YOUR unreasonable budget, along with YOUR shitty attitude, then by all means, LEAVE!!!!!!
They won't call you back. Believe that!!!!
@@hdnet2112 My credit is excellent. I'm not playing little fuck fuck games with a dealer. period. Its a want, not a need.
@hdnet2112 Sorry your daddy hurt you.
Visiting the local Honda and Kawasaki dealer is like purchasing shoes. They dont care if you buy or not. Straight forward and up front with you. Harley, on the other hand, is completely different. This is what happens when you are buying from a company that is going under and in financial turmoil. Once the baby boomer generation is gone, Harley is gone. These tricks and schemes are only going to get worse.
Thanks for sharing your insights on the motorcycle buying experience.
Harley is an over priced cheap clothing company.
High Desert Harley Davidson in Meridian, Idaho is one of these DISHONEST dealers. For example: I went in to buy a 2024 Street Glide a couple of weeks ago. The MSRP for this bike is $26,000 (actually $25,999) directly from the Harley-Davidson website. I wanted a "premium paint" bike, that's an extra $850...........so MSRP is $26,850 for this particular bike. The LYING salesman ( Ben G.) said that the MSRP from Harley is $28,349.........THIS IS A COMPLETE LIE!!!!!!!!! They charge a "market adjustment" of of $1,500, but don't tell the customer that fact.
Woodlamds Harley-Davidson is advertising Street/Road Glides for $232/mo
I already know, this is too good to be true and is obviously a bait and hook scam.
I jave emailed them just out of curiosity.
Last year, the same dealership
I brought in my 2006 VROD
Full on custom, 3500mi, MINT
Dealership offered me $1800 - I felt so disrespected I cursed out the Sales manager.
Harley just listed my bikes for sale on the website, when I never brought them in to sell to them
Profit is not a bad word ! 😊
vehicle dealerships in America only believe in one thing.......RIPPING OF THEIR CUISTOMER. the assumption is that the customer trusts the salespeople to speak half truths at least, reality everything that comes out of the dealerships side is utter bull crap. and sadly the american consumer is also too naive and trusting and not knowledgeable to know when they have been SHAFTED! NEVER trust anything and always get it in writing before any deal
Thank you for sharing your experience. It's a reminder to all of us to be vigilant when making big purchases.
If you are an inexperienced rider, Bartel's HD in Marina Del Rey will sell you an "experienced" motorcycle.
Go woke go broke. Harley is for old people
Bought a new Harley Davidson x500. Bike had a ride away price but when I picked the bike up there was an additional cost for goods services tax, They should make this clear when looking to buy a Harley, So ask if that is the ride away price
Sounds like the tax was the unexpected "bump in the road"! Always good to ask for all the details upfront.
AVOID EAGLE MARK FINANCIAL SERVICES AT ALL COSTS!!!🤬
Harley is definitely Bastards but my sales person was awesome. no oressure
Those I don’t know Harley Davidson followed the money and see who they contribute to their own by China
Want a cruiser, go metric. You'll be riding more than repairing. Sold my year 2000 Suzuki Intruder 1500 with 85,000 miles.
I wish I would of bought a honda
It's never too late to make a change!
Fox valley 🤮
This is what they did to me and sold me a bad limon and has death wabble they won't fix it
Thank you for sharing your experience. It's important to spread awareness about such issues to help others avoid similar situations.
Who is paying for those huge showrooms and service shops? You are.
your warnings are old hat from many decades ago. These are not unique to Harley dealers, this is mostly the track system. It was called at car dealerships. Do you know anything about motorcycles at all? Have you ever ridden a motorcycle? Do you actually own a motorcycle?
Look, you're the one that walked into the dealership, of course the salesman is going to try to sell you a bike, that's why they are employed there. They are also like everyone else trying to pay their bills and feed their family. WAY too many people act like sales people are vampires feeding on their blood. YOU walked into HIS/HER place of employment and expect them to not try and earn your business?! Stop with the hard ass attitude when a sales person greets you, they have a job to do!!!!! Most people think they are getting ripped off and get pissed off because of their preconceived notions that the dealer is supposed to meet YOUR financial criteria. Like wanting a 30k bike for $250 a month with $500 down and a 600 credit score (Happens every day!!!!!) Next time, before you walk into a dealer, do some SIMPLE math... Take the asking price of the bike and divide it by the term, let's say 60 months. $30,000 ÷ 60 is $500 and that's $500 without any interest added or taxes and fees... By the way, don't get pissed at the sales person for the high interest rate YOU earned with your shitty credit because YOU don't pay your bills... Don't like HD's rates, then take your bill of sale to your credit union and stop being an a-hole to the sales person trying to do their job!!!! Have some common sense and some self awareness before you walk into the dealer next time.
Spoken like a true slimy salesman. I have yet to walk into a dealer that is not lying to you from the start. No dealer discloses everything about the fees. Dealers do not disclose they are pushing you to their "bank" because they make more money off that financing. Dealers BS you about all the extra fees they "have" to charge you over MSRP. Dealers BS you about the doc fees. Save your rant about the crappy low score buyers and look in the mirror. There are WAY more people who CAN buy then the few who only can dream. Clean up your own back yard before you complain about someone elses.
Says the salesman.!
Jus5 don't buy its just like cars there going to milk every cent out of you they can. The second you see the hidden fees pop up walk out let them know that practice cost them a sell.
Not an issue, for me anyway, HD is no longer on my list for consideration. I would rather own an Indian. Go woke go broke. HD is dead.
stop talking...after first words I had to stop....we ( my frienss & I) do not ride, " motorbikes", we ride harleys...motorcycles...more shit'n git than most cars...not motorbikes.
So why are you hating on Harley’s. These tactics are at ALL vehicle dealerships. I was going to subscribe but your channel is full of Harley hate.
Why get one of these pigs when there are so many good bikes out there. Try the new Moto Guzzi models