Revolutionary Vise Jig!
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That's impressive. Well done, but I think that I'll wait for $299 Woodpecker version to come out rather than getting my hands dirty. Or, maybe even get the $799 Festool type, cause it'll come with a sustainer.
HA!
☝️ no more comments please… we have a winner 😆
There is always one 😂😂
Lol if only they had a systainer for the systainer
Hot glue doesn't dry, it freezes. All it is is a stick of plastic that gets melted. Beauty of it is that you could recover that first one by remelting it.
Whoa. Cool. xD Great point.
That's a great point. I'd never thought of it that way!
I’m so damn jealous I never thought of this myself! This is one of those ideas that is so simple and brilliant that it made me smack my head 🤦🏻♂️
Hard to think in all that heat. Thanks!
This is a single facet fractal vise.
I assure you, your not alone there.
It's a very good solution and also an old one. You've created a type of pivoting vise jaw. Some of the Wilton vises used to come from the factory with a different type of pivoting jaw that did the same thing. Hold nonparallel parts. There have been aftermarket and shop made ones also. And the old pattern makers vises would move in all kinds of ways. Everything old is new again. Great work though I haven't seen one in the configuration you came up with.
Thanks! I know of the Wilton one. I planned to mention it in this video, but never got around to it.
Adam Savage did a great video on a fractal vise
@@liquidrockaquatics3900 Comment here because that was my first thought too. A great solution but not a revolutionary (to everyone) one.
That's just simply the best answer ever to majority of my problems in life.
That is impressive! Well done!
That radius drawing jig is absolutely genius! Ima steal it for sure 😅
Yeah? It's kinda janky, but it sure works!
@@worstworkshoplove it! Stroke of pure genius!
It's a beam compass. A piece of string works too. You tie the string to the pencil then put a loop on the other end around a pivot point.
Great idea… I need to do a ~40 circle-arc with a 60 cm radius… all on a router-jig and with my MFT table I can do this eeeeasily now 🥳
@@lgolsen I'm glad!
Now that is an awesome jig!
Thanks! I never really want to remove it. It just works.
I love everything diy and this is an elegant solution...perfectly solves the problem, easy to use, and inexpensive. Yes, I do plan to build one. Thank you for sharing!!
I'm glad. If you're up for it, email me a picture when you're done. I'd love to see! (david@worstworkshop.com)
"Sounds of old guy sanding" lol😂😂😂
GREAT simple build. So much versatility in a simple design. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks! Will do!
Wow that's an amazing idea. Thanks for sharing. Will be sharing with all my woodworker friends/family
That's awesome. Thanks!
Awesome idea! Simple and really useful! I like it made with wood glue. Make it once, and don't worry about it again.
Me too!!
For someone like me who really only needs to do this every once in a while, an almost as good tool can be built in about ten minutes: just cut the two curved pieces and voila. Of course you'll have to manually hold both pieces plus your work piece as you tighten the vise, and it's not quite as convenient, but it does the job just fine.
Construction adhesive may work well for the track, since it can remain a bit elastic. Hot glue can actually be pretty strong, you just have to preheat the surfaces with a heat gun for maximum stickage.
Its never occurred to me that pre heating the mating surfaces might help adhesion. I'll remember that hack. Thanks.
Great ideas!
That's just a very simplified fractal vise.
best presentation and explanation ;) best wishes and thx
Thank you so much!
That's brilliant, dude! Fantastic work!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks! Hope you're doing well!
Fantastic idea! Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
I have bought into the microjig dovetail clamping system. With two quick clamps you can clamp anything to your dovetail routed bench top and front. It’s so simple yet brilliant.
It's a good solution, and really clean looking. I do something similar with holdfasts, but sometimes you just want a vise to grab your work and get moving
Great idea for a long time issue. - Chris
I appreciate that. It's a lot easier than a twin screw vise, but those have their place too.
Late to the party this time - because I've actually been out in my shop, working on a massive build. LoL.
While this may not have saved me any time on this one, im comfortable assuming it will in the future.
Thank you so much for your consistently quality presentations.
And, for the record, I'm proud to have been the first public recognizer. LoL. ;)
Ha! Thanks for making it to the party, late or not!
Consider using a shop made jig for the bandsaw cut of the trunnion radius. Then leave the trunnion mounted in the radius jig and use a Tee router bit to put the groove in.
OK, you're smart. That's exactly what I was planning to do if I decided on making a small run. And thank you for saying TRUNNION! That's the word I was looking for and couldn't remember.
@@worstworkshop I couldn't remember trunnion either, I had to look it up on ChatGPT.
Now that's a very clever solution to a widespread problem! Well done, mate!
Thanks!!
Great video! I enjoyed meeting you at the Bourbon Moth happy hour a few months ago.
Thanks! And yeah, that was a really fun night all around.
Awesome idea! this makes me want to get a vise now. Well done Sir!
You could try to make one out of OSB. It would be the first!
You can make a vise. I made my first woodworking vise. Well, I found an old rotted out head of a vise and remade all of the wooden pieces. I got the screw and nut out of that. If you're good at scrounging you can find suitable nut and thread for a vise. If you're really desperate you could use blocks and opposing wedges. A screw thread is just a wedge in the round. It's an inclined plane that wraps around a cylinder. There are various schemes for hand carving wooden threads even. I've thought about making wooden threads. I haven't done it yet though. But it is possible.
@@1pcfred that sounds like a great idea, but my needs for a vise would be rare, so time vs cost, I would just buy one. 😅
@@fiveduckstudio I use vises quite a bit so I have quite a few. There's different kinds of vises. Some are more suitable for certain tasks than others are. Which is why I don't get by with just one. Although I suppose if I had to I'd manage somehow.
Would something like this help with a vise that had a problem with racking? Instead of placing a scrap of wood on one side of the jaws?
Excellent work again! Another awesome video! I liked your idea, and I may steal it from you when I finally build my work bench. I've still got some other priorities for my workshop ahead, like an outfeed table for my table saw and some wood storage racks to free up more space in my shop. I almost forgot about having to fix my miter saw station too, which is a complete mess, pretty much like the rest of my shop. I hope everything is wonderful with you and your whole family. It was great seeing another video from you. Please take care and have an amazing week.
Thanks, Mark. Have a great weekend!
You might build an outfeed/workbench and then you can include the vise and kill 3 birds with one stone. This forces you to keep your workbench clean if you’re inclined not to. Which is a good habit to get into.
I’m so glad you involved your girls when you built your work bench.
Me too! I wish I could have them in every video, but I don't want to take advantage of them. They've had a really busy Summer!
Very clever idea! Thank you, grandpa/cousin. I don't know if you're 37 or 73, but either way, you've come up with a really cool idea that I legit had never seen before. Subscribed!
51, and thanks!
@@worstworkshop Dude you're 51?? You look so much younger! Wow. I mean the beard looks 73 - I see what that guy's talking about - but ignoring the beard, about 40 seems right.
@Ahjile I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks!
Nice fancy new backdrop for the worst workshop. Awesome to see you and your channel growing.
Thank you! It was a low-cost solution, but I love the way it turned out.
Loving the shop background!
Thanks!! A lot of thought went into that. Turns out a bucket of cheap paint can make a big difference.
@worstworkshop ditto on the new set. That was a wise move!
That there's pretty-darned ingenious! Thanks for the inspiration! 😃👍
Thank you!
Hello from Ireland just came across your video. I going to try this over the weekend it looks a very cool idea. Keep your fingers crossed for me 😅
Great! Send a picture when you're done. I'd love to see!
A little bit out-dated, my family have been doing this with our vices for over 50 yrs. This is only another variant of the inverted V blocks for holding dowels vertically. This is just a smaller variant of the old wheelwrighte's vice, 100's of years old.
Wheelwright's vises are severely underappreciated, as is the value of a vise that racks naturally. Rex Krueger has done some excellent videos on these vises, and has plans for one, I believe.
I saw two advantages to this one. One is that you don't always want racking, and this allows for either configuration. Secondly, these cast iron woodworking vises are readily available. I could certainly build something like a wheelwright's vise if I wanted to, but between this and my twin screw vise, I feel like I'm covered...unless I have to start making wagon wheels, of course.
Thanks for that insightful comment!
I like your style, brother. That's an awesome little jig!!
Thanks!
You are brilliant!
@@lauramarshall6376 thanks!
Super clever and WAY cheaper than getting an old pattern maker's vise. Nice.
Glad you like it!
Old guy sanding 🤣
Tighten it harder! If it still moves wiggles then tighten it more lol! I have the same exact vise so I know the struggle but I put 1/2 inch blocks of red oak on the jaws to protect my work and you can tighten the heck out of it with no wiggle and no worries.
I like the way you think!
In reality you don’t need the concave peace just the curved peace
You're not wrong. Essentially, that would allow for one point of contact on that side, but the other piece means you probably have at least two. It would work though.
I loved that bud. Really nice video. Quality is way up. Not to mention the genius simplicity of the end result. Thank you,
Thanks! It's funny you say that. I was thinking about you in some of the calmer, "zen" moments, reminding myself not everything has to be over the top. You're a good influence on me.
I love this. I've always wondered if a fractal vice could be adapted to wood, great implementation.
Thanks! It's not a true fractal vise, but I bet one could be made, with enough skill and patience. I honestly think two points of contact on each side is enough though.
@@worstworkshop For sure, I think this is perfect for woodworking.
A great innovative idea.... love it!
Glad you like it. Thanks.
Keep em comin. Your videos are really good. But all the credit goes to the hats' inspiration. 🙂😉
Very true. Glad you enjoyed it!
Good idea! Lazy as I am I usually take my tapered bit as an angle spacer and run it together with scrap wood in my saw to get the matching part for my vice.
Having your solution though would be nice. Maybe some day. 👍🏻
Kind regards
Anders
Sweden
Thanks! For a small taper you should even shove something squishy in there, but once I thought of this I couldn't let it go until I built it.
Great concept on a troubling clamping issue
I appreciate it!
The shop is looking very nice!
Thank you! It's amazing what a bucket of paint can do.
Cool idea, nice job.
Thanks!
Interesting idea.
It does bring up the question as to how brittle dried CA glue is.
It's a good question. Almost all the force on the joint is compression, so it doesn't take much to hold it once the MDF settles into the curve.
@@worstworkshop Was thinking more of the constant clamping and unclamping load. That's not a scenario I would think CA glue is good for over time. But it's not like I ever tested it.
But think about it. If you get some on your skin. You wait for it to dry (get brittle) then supply a load to it and it just crumbles and flakes off. Wood glue would still stay together. Not sure about Hot glue as I don't use it much.
Hot glue is surprisingly strong, and flexible to boot when used correctly.
@@worstworkshop There's different hot glues. There's even other thermosetting plastics. Which is what hot glue is. HDPE looks just like hot glue when it is melted. It's about as sticky too. But there's different kinds of HDPE. There's translucent and colored. Colored HDPE has binders in it. So it has different properties. Even white HDPE is colored. But plastic milk jugs that's translucent. Melting HDPE is a whole thing.
I`ve got that same problem, this is so simple yet hard to see
great job WW on making ur own Vise Jig.. looks cool too..
Thanks!
Great job! Love the new background, too.
Thanks!
Nice job, normally when i see something using a wedge like this the faces are grooved, in this case, i bet you would get more range out of it by gluing some sandpaper to one of the faces.
You could be right. Thanks for the tip.
It is a very simple version of a fractal vice jaw.
Awesome video. Thanks. Any idea where you got the flexible ruler with the tick holes in it from? That is a great tool.
It is. Mine is about fifteen years old, and has not been taken care of, but it's stood up. You can buy it here: amzn.to/4dhtVwM
Great idea… keep up !!
Thanks!
That is brilliant!
Thanks, Barry!
Clever solution, well done, seems pretty nice, but I would just use a wedge. Wedges work perfectly, and they're quick, cheap, and easy to use. Especially since this is not a super common problem to experience.
This is very similar to how bike seats are angled and tightened... awesome implementation
I didn't think of that, but good point. Glad you liked it?
I am wondering how many headaches it could have saved me over the years - it's great!
Umm, I don't think it's Worst workshop anymore, I think it's BEST :)
It's amazing what a bucket of paint can do.
This is an awesome idea. could use a row of magnets on one side and a steel strip on the other instead of the t-track to hold the pieces in line.
That's smart!
@@worstworkshop it takes a village to build a vice, lol
Not sure if I’d do that, very rarely need to clamp angled pieces but regularly need more distance. And when need to clamp angled, it’s easy to clamp it some other way, like with a small wood piece or clamp-in-the-vise etc.
There are plenty of ways to do it. Whether or not you'd want something like this all depends on what sort of things you build.
That's just brilliant man! 👏
Glad you like it. You're killing it on those serving tray videos! Keep up the good work.
helpful video. thanks...great idea.
Appreciate it! Love your drawer slides video too.
@@worstworkshop Thanks much. It was a fun one.
Good idea. My only issue is with my vise I would lose so much capacity due to the extra jaws. New subscriber
Thank you! And you're right. You lose a couple of inches. That's the main reason I made mine removable.
Good excuse to buy a new vise 😉
Stuffing something like a rag or shirt in the spaces that aren’t getting clamped works great. Just don’t be afraid to really crank on the tension rod and she ain’t goin no where.
Yes, that works too. I just had this idea and wanted to see if it would work!
@@worstworkshop yes sir I think about it every time I need to clamp an odd shaped piece lol! I definitely will make one . Thanks for the content. Great video
great little jig. well done for thinking outside the box.
I really appreciate that
Great idea. If only fractal vises weren't so expensive and hard to find (I wish of finding one in a junk/antique store one day), but this is the best vise you'll get per dollar by far.
Clearly, you get it. That's exactly the idea. I feel so validated
@@worstworkshop A fractal vise is one of those obscure tools thats just so crazy rare and expensive I've never even seen one in person. Yet considering how practical the idea is its weird that they haven't been mass produced at an affordable price point by now. Your idea is the closest I'd probably ever come to one.
@@sgath92 you can get fractal vises but they're not cheap. Even out of China you're looking at about 4-5 grand. At that price expect to do finishing work on it.
@@1pcfred Like I was saying, obscure and expensive. If the chinesium ones are $4k I don't want to know what a quality USA made one would be.
@@sgath92 I don't know if any are made in the USA. I'm not seeing them. Maybe they were at some time in the past? But that's the case for many things today.
Real man of genius, cool idea
Poverty precedes innovation? Glad you like it!
A cool solution. The other way that I've seen is to put a hinge in the middle of one of the jaws so it can tilt to follow the angle of the workpiece.
Wilton has one that comes from the factory like that. It can't be removed, and it's expensive, but it was part of the inspiration for this
instantly liked and subbed after seeing that ingenious fucking design
Thanks!
Great Jig!
Thanks!
Great vice add on
Thanks!
Very cool!
Thank you!
Brilliant idea
Thanks a lot!
Thirteen minutes to find out that I already knew that hot glue sucks !! Except for when it’s the perfect thing !!
Exactly. I've used it go glue boards together "temporarily" only to find out the glue is stronger than the lignin that holds the wood fibers together (at least on cheap construction lumber). But this wasn't a good place for it. I could have left that whole bit out, but what fun is that?
Nice vise mod.
The worst workshop is looking good. It may not be the worst anymore.
It's amazing what a bucket of cheap paint can do!
@worstworkshop I neglected to mention it in my own comment, but yeah, definitely looking good!!
3:38 - you could have used your radius drawing jig to actually cut the radius instead. Just secure the workpiece at the end 🤓🤓
Great video!
Thanks!
The youngest older person I've ever seen. Or the oldest young person
Thanks! I actually turned 51 while filming this video.
thx
Thanks for the tip and idea.
Something I can really use.
As for AURA, not so much.
Inform your viewers to Pay for a full years subscription up front or Aura won’t help you.
They offer a month to month subscription where they treat these subscribers as low level members that do not deserve full support.
CAREFUL!
Sorry for this negative comment regarding AURA Service but I felt people should know.
That's ok, Ben! Thanks for your feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
Good job my friend. If only I had a vice :)
Thanks! If you're looking for a bargain, that Doyle one from Harbor Freight I have is top notch.
What I'd say is that T-Guide thing that gave you so much trouble, you don't really need it. Just keep the two pieces separate. Maybe not as satisfying from an artistic point of view, but hey. My motto is, whatever works.
You're right. It totally works that way.
👍 Well Done
Thank you
It has been a thing for decades and decades mostly with a ball joint so it can handle angles in all directions.
You're talking about pivoting vise jaws, right? Yes, absolutely. Wilton sells a vise now with an integrated one. The innovation here is building a simple version at home.
@@worstworkshop Yes, it would be harder to make a pivot one. But with a 3D printer it is possible. I made a lot of them as replacement for schools work benches since that kind wasn't possible to order.
Good work!
First "Roubo Sucks," now this. Guess I'll have to subscribe
Thanks!
Not on your video at all but around 10pm on July 9th google crashed I guess. Many diff creators of content that didn’t start or end as well in mids without commercials. Btw great video. Thanks.
Oh wow! This video was tanking that day too, but I kept toying with the thumbnail and title, and the next day it took off.
I have a sears Craftsman 16 direct drive model number 113.236110 and I only have plane pined blades and or any kind but pined adapter that came with it but not sure what other company product of other places may have the (pinless adapters for the top and bottom I need, do you know where i can get parts like that for a obsolete scroll saw?
I wish I knew. I've been looking for them too.
One word - "totally awesome!" . . . Ok, two words then 😊
One word or two, I appreciate it!
Lol love it . Great video
Glad you got a laugh out of it!
That's a fancy workbench and shop! When did you upgrade from the low rent shop?
I didn't! Home Depot sold me three beadboard panels on clearance for $8 each. They were falling apart, so I had to glue them back together. Then I bought a bucket of barn paint for twenty bucks and used some scraps to build that small cabinet behind me. It just looks fancy. It's not.
@@worstworkshop That's awesome! I just rewatched your workbench video because I had forgotten about it when I made my first comment (forgetfulness is another sign of aging). BTW, I noticed you have a flag in a shadow box above your "fancy" backdrop. Was that for a relative?
@@mikehodges6598 Yes. I'm glad you noticed. My great uncle Bobby died in WWII, and that's his burial flag. I was torn as to whether or not to include it in the "set," but I think my family will be proud to see it there.
Who cares about overtime - You're a genius..
That's very kind. Thanks!
The British have vices. When Americans have vices the vice squad shows up then. But if you spell vise with an S then it's OK here.
Oh snap! I changed that title late last night and missed the spelling error. Thank you!
@@worstworkshop vice is correct in UK English. Anymore I've taken to saying that I speak American these days. Our respective languages have diverged quite a bit over the course of time. A lot of Americans get the vice/vise thing wrong though. I see it a lot. "Vice Grips" Yeah you read.
Use the five minute epoxy. I reckon that's the ease of use vs strength compromise.
That's a great idea.
use hot glue in combination with ca, first the hot glue holds it together later the ca glue has the strenght.
That's a good thought!
My goodness, talk about guilding the lily.... you not heard of wedges!?
I have been wondering why no one has not yet to come up with a DIY plan for making a woodworking fractal vise with scraps. 😂 Idea itself is revolutionary, nonetheless.🎉
It could be developed further, to make it more like a traditional fractal vise. I thought about it, but it seems two points of contact on each side are enough.
Take a look at a “Fractal Vise” engineers solved this years ago.
Oh, I know. I've watched restoration videos on them, along with Adam Savage's videos on his. This is really just a pivoting vise jaw. You can buy one from Wilton with it built in, but mine can be removed, and is a LOT cheaper.
Hot glue is for teaching kids to hold the cold end of a tool, and maybe arts and crafts, NOT for engineering.
I'm just honored someone would compare what I do to engineering!
Except that engineers do use hot glue. They also use plastic injection molding which is the same process. And 3D printing is identical to using hot glue.