The prototype CNJ 1523 was built in 1952 and used in mostly in passenger service. In the mid 70s when CNJ was absorbed by Conrail, it was renumbered to 5681 and transfered to NJDOT. NJDOT used it in commuter service until 1993. It was then donated to United RR Historical Society of NJ. It has been restored and is still operable.
The “uncoupling doohickey” is a “coupler cut lever”. The bent part sticking out over the couplers - in real life - has a chain, bar, or strap that lifts a locking pin on the knuckle couplers. These (coupler cut levers) extend out to the sides of the rolling stock so the conductor or brakeman can swing the lever up to uncouple the cars. This way, he/she doesn’t have to risk stepping between the cars when flat switching (shunting) the cars in a yard, or industry siding.
The first loco i ever 'Explored" as a kid was a Pennsylvania Rail Road GEEP sitting outside the former PRR Juniata Shops in Altoona PA. On Sundays the shops were closed at that time (1974), and a few of us kids had found an easy way to get through the security fence and we would spend hours playing in a bunch of different assorted Loco's. It was heaven.
As an American who is quite familiar with GP7s, this loco has nice detail, particularly the scale handrails (You shouldn't have dinged this model for them) and it sounds like a GP7. I wish I modeled in HO, this would be on my shopping list. All in all a decent model of an early phase GP7.
The GP7 was the four axle counterpart to the six axle SD7 (GP for General Purpose, SD for Special Duty). The two continued to evolve together as pretty much parallel lines through the 1980s, when new four axle main line power fell out of favor. It was with the 3,000 hp SD40-2 and 2,000 hp GP38-2 that EMD finally reached the end of the pioneering era. (Dash 2 added to the designation means modular electronics) When it came out, the SD40-2 hit a perfect balance of power, traction, and reliability that made it incredibly popular. It was also exported widely. How widely? Well, the Class 59 is basically an SD40-2 squeezed into the British loading gauge and with Class 58-style cabs slapped on. And, of course, the Class 59 led to the Class 66.
Sam one of the main reasons I switched to US modelling back in 1993 was cost and quality. Back then I was buying models from Lima and Hornby which to be frank were terrible models and ran like a bag of nails. I was able to get an Athearn blue box model for about £19 with 5 pole motor and flywheels, UK models had ring fields and were about £40-50.
I am Welded on to OO all my Layout is OO, so even though this Example is Amazing value. It's not for me, so hope the American stuff stays where it is, In the US. Obviously it would be nice if Hornby took note and Improve their Value and Quality. Fingers Crossed. 😂
Yes! I was hoping you'd pick this one up! Growing up in the state of New Jersey, I've seen this exact loco many times. It's still around and preserved, too. The coal train was a good choice since the Jersey Central ran lots of coal trains from Eastern Pennsylvania to the ports in New York City for export. It's definitely a 5/5 from me. Cheers from the East Coast USA. Also the odd one out has to be the GG1- it's the only electric engine out on the layout today.
Those catalog ads are a good way to date a bachmann model, I'd recommend looking at the year before throwing it out to see how long the model has been sitting
If you’re looking for a GP7 that does have more separately fitted parts and cab detail, I recommend Athearn’s GP7s. I got myself one in Western Pacific colors and it does prove itself pretty well. One thing I will say though is that it seems just a little faster than it should be, even probably starting off faster than this, but we’ll have to see depending if you get one or not. Can’t wait to see more!
Just make sure it's Athearn's Genesis series, and not the Ready to Roll series. The RTR's are around the same level of detail as this one, while the Genesis is very nicely and highly detailed.
An ideal locomotive for anyone wanting to get into the hobby. When you apply the 3 meter rule you are not looking at the loco with a magnifying glass as it runs around a layout, so any small imperfections are minimal. Great value. Cheers Greg
The odd man out is the GG-1 electric. Although it's probably the mechanism, the high speed is actually near prototype, for that particular railroad. The Central of New Jersey geared their GP-7/9s and other similar locos for higher speed operations for commuter passenger services, which explains the detail appliances on the short hood. A good review of a (for the US) medium priced DCC sound loco. The motor is s probably a three pole based on the cogging on the initial test. Unfortunately you can't tell without taking it apart. They are generally good motors, and performance is generally better on DCC, than straight DC. Enjoy your new first generation American diesel.
First things first Sam. You have to drive a DCC sound loco to get the sound right. The EMD locos were designed with 8 power notches in their cab controllers so as you apply power you hear the engine spool up to its next notch setting. Similarly when reducing power when the engine rpm reduces per notch. This is quite different to many if our indigenous diesels in the UK which used control air pressure to increase RPM. Locos such such as Sulzer type 2s type 3s and type 4s had an infinitely variable power controller on the drivers desk, the only notch being the move from "off" (idle) to "on" where you wont discern an engine rpm change. The loco on your middle track was an E unit - basically two of the same 567 engines as in your GP7 each turning a generator to provide effectively double the power of your geep. Roughly GP = General purpose (known as geep) riding on four wheel.trucks E = express unit a faster passenger unit running in three axle trucks (A1A or Co) SD = special duty in other words six wheel trucks. EMD often offered their designs as GP or SD so your Jersey Central GP7 might also have been offered as an SD7 with the same engine but six wheel bogies and six traction motors. This policy went pretty much up to the GP50 / SD50 and i believe one RR had some four axle GP60s.
I have a few of these Bachmann diesels and yeah they're pretty good for the money. When I looked up the drawbar pull of these I think it figured out to be at least 25-30 free rolling 40ft boxcars so those 34ft hoppers aren't even going to cause a real strain on that diesel. Awesome review as always and I love seeing when you take a look at some of our baragain deals herenin the states.
5:15 🤣 love it! This thing is a beast (model and prototype)! It's amazing how some of the locos from this era have lasted so long - I was really impressed to find out that Portugal's Série 1500 loco was introduced in 1948 and is still going strong. There are probably similar examples all over the world of locos this age and older still in active mainline use. I can't see many of today's newer locos doing the same, but who knows, maybe I'll be proved wrong. It'll probably be those dog ugly Class 70s, won't it?
When I had to go to New York City I used to take the Jersey Central. Interesting line, it was the railroad that introduced the blue passenger conductor uniform, the first to use automatic signaling and bought the first diesel-electric locomotive. Their main passenger terminal in Jersey City was featured in the opening of the movie Funny Girl (with Barbara Streisand). As an aside, the GP7 and GP9 were designed with the intention of being dull and uninteresting. The E series were supposed to be the bathing beauties of the GM-EMD locomotive line up.
Cracking deal there Sam! Many details can easily be enhanced with a brush if so wished. And should the motor need replacement, you know where to look and how hahah. Hopefully, the integrated electronics won't fail early since it can't receive a decoder on its own. But hey, for that money, it's quite the clever thought out package. Lovely to see that you can now run and review on DCC as well. Cheerio.
They use name brand Soundtraxx Tsunami decoders, so they are fine. There is a way to upgrade them to their Generation 2 Tsunami decoders that are much better, but their Gen 1 Econami is acceptable on a budget model.
Fun fact about the early geep engines, they could be ordered in short hood forward or long hood forward versions. the main difference being the way the controls face and what side the horns and bells are on. Some railroads prefered the long hood forward versions as it resembled the steam locomotives they were used to. Eventually however, people saw the advantages in having better visibility and locomotives built to run long hood forward became a thing of the past.
Sam, thank you so much for reviewing another US loco. The rail line closest to my childhood home ran GP7s. Unfortunately, Bachmann built-in decoders have a poor reputation here in the US, and I have personal experience of this. I purchased a Bachman GE 70 Tonner with DCC a couple of years ago, but its performance was so poor (and noisy) at low speeds that I set it aside. However, several months ago I got the courage to modify its printed circuit board and installed a decent decoder and KeepAlive (from TCS). It runs much better now. Please don't let your experience with this particular loco put you off DCC. Even though I have a very small shunting layout, I've gone from DC to DCC because of the superior motor control with decent decoders. Cheers from Wisconsin!
I have definitely enjoyed the Spectrum series steam locomotives. They are not up to brass import quality in mechanisms or bodies but they run well and are well detailed. The logging locomotives are particularly nice, and the On30 line is a fun way to use HO/OO track that might otherwise look exaggerated in rail height.
That is the same locomotive I purchased five years ago! I bought it because of the Central of New Jersey livery. Was really impressed with the paint job and the sound. A joy to switch with or run a short commuter train as the prototype did.
I don't know how much you would be interested in but look into getting a bachmann rolling stock with flashing eot device or just the eot to put on on of your bachmann rolling stock. Eot is a device for that says how much air pressure you have and flashing. If your loco has a head of train device in the cab it makes doing brake test so much easier. But you should look into it if you are interested.
I understand there are people out there who wouldn't use a soldering iron, to remove and replace the decoder, but that is easily done. In America, Bachmann is looked down upon by many, as an owner of most MFGs in North American locomotives, I believe they are "quite alright", and perform very well. Bachmann finally started installing Soundtraxx decoders in some of their units, I hope that continues. As always, I enjoy your content , thank you for sharing.
Hi Sam Recent Bachmann and Dapol DCC sound fitted locos have been stated to work on DC. The Sonic release also does so and Rapido day theirs do too. The top speed is lower than a DC ready version of the same model. Used on a DC layout, as one increases the dial one gets the sound of the engine starting and then gets into chuffing, changing to the beat of a faster speed. Rails tell me that, on the Sonic one, if you put the speed on too quickly you get wheel slip sounds! Sounds amazing. I am waiting for mine to check it out. KR still use the old style chips which do not select DC. Love your reviews.
The odd locomotive out is the GG1, which is an electric and not a diesel. The GP7 and GP9 are some amazing locomotives as nearly every diesel made afterward was based on them. That locomotive on the middle line is an EMD E7. I'm surprised you had trouble with those Rivarossi passenger cars as I have a few and they rarely derail. They might need the axles and couplers adjusted.
The GP7 is the only US diesel that I like but in HO scale it is very hard to get a good detailed engine. Not like you get with UK engines. You get them at a good price but that is it . This is a good looking engine and with the dcc sound that’s what makes it a good deal . Great video keep them coming. Those catalog order forms tell you exactly when the engine was introduced for sale just look at the date of the catalog.
Love me some American first-generation diesels! The Jersey Central ran through my area back in the day, and there's a decent amount of their equipment still in preservation. Now if you thought this was impressive, I'd give ScaleTrains a look. They're a great manufacturer with ridiculously detailed products.
I forgot to mention that the loco you couldn't remember is either a F-7/9, (4 axel), or a E-8/9, (6 axel). F- units were generally freight locos although many were dual purpose, while the E-units were just the opposite being mainly passenger engines. While many of the 4 axel loco's, both GPs and F-units have survived into the modern era, both in preservation,and in active use, there are only a handful of E-units left, mostly preserved for excursion service, or as power for a railroad's executive trains.
Thanks for the review Sam.👍 That hopper rake looked great, especially the effect of the Nickel Plate Road coal treatment. Do believe I saw a shooting "Bull" go by !😄
Sam, if you ever want to experience the high end of American models, I highly recommend Athearn Genesis and Scaletrains. Both of them are on par or better than Accurascale as far as detail is concerned.
25:02 That locomotive is an EMD E unit.. possibly an E7a . It is a contemporary your General Purpose 7 (GP7). It was primarily built for Express passenger Trains. The E stands for its power class of Eighteen Hundred horsepower, it has a smaller similar looking sibling called an F unit ( for Fifteen hundred HP, and has 4 axles). What you have there is an A unit, which has a drivers cab; if you wanted more power, you would simply lash up more B units (cab-less units) and control them from the A unit's cab.
The Green Bachmann is an E8 or E9 I bought one for myself in the PRR livery because of your review on it. still haven't run it though I don't have a layout yet
I suppose the GG1 was out of place. The car bodied unit is either an E (A1A) or an F (Bo Bo) most roads ran GPs or SDs with the long hood first for safety. Excellent value for money, I like running trains and I'm prepared to put up with a shortage of detail, and since I've never heard the real thing...
Reading the comments your US subscribers seem 'over the moon'. Stars and stripes... But Bachmann stuff aint my piece of cake anymore. Cheap and not reliable in the long run that's my experience. If you want this one to run smooth on all speed steps you'll have some CV settings to tweak. Using JMRI - Decoder Pro is 'The' way to do this. And since you're into DCC now it's a must to check it out. Happy model railroading Sam. Cheers.
I actually have one of those that I custom-painted to look like a CSX GP-7 locomotive. I didn’t buy it with sound, and I had to remove the factory decoders, as bachmann non-sound decoders are just trash. The crazy thing is that I got mine for $52. It lasted about two years before its decoder just gave out. I bought it in 2021, and its decoder cut out in early 2023. I just bought a new Soundtraxx decoder. GP-7s are generally basic locomotives, but they are very reliable, and very popular.
That is a damn good price. If one allocates $25 for a decoder with minimum features, it is like $63 for a DCC ready, new loco. Even old stuff on eBay goes for very much higher prices here! Those are not DCC ready at all. Also, the conditions are not reliable anyway. Great buy, Sam.
The GP7 here in the U.S. is a fair equivalent to the Class 08 shunter. Small shunting locomotive with vast utility, dirt cheap to mass produce and sell so nearly EVERY big railroad in the United States had these and a fair amount still in service today.
@@TheRealEasyA Compare it to your mainline freight diesels. Although they were advertised as "road switchers" most of their early years was pulling mainline freight. It was only towards the end of their service lives did they become yard switchers.
Hi Sam, looks like you were lucky there with a cheap loco including decoder! On a different topic just wanted to let you know about a slight loophole with Hornby Hobby Rewards. The company said all pre-orders on 22/11/22 would have their points included in the current total. However to do this they automatically analysed all orders which were in pre-order state on that exact day and included points for those. This then did not include any orders which arrived in the warehouse on that day as their order status changed from pre-order to preparing for despatch sometime during the day. Luckily when I raised this, Hornby manually updated my rewards total to include them as they were between pre-order and despatched in their system but clearly not actually delivered to the customer (still pre-order at 00:01 on the 22nd).
Keep in mind it's Bachman, it won't last long. The engine on the middle line is an E8 or 7, but any e unit after the E6 had the Bulldog knose. The oddball out is the GG1 due to it being electric
I associate Bachman’s North American products with being really cheap with a stupid price tag. If you want better North American trains buy from Scaletrains or Athearn. I would also say Rapido but you know what their products are like from the RS11. Atlas’s highest end range is also better than the line your GP40 came from. But the GG1 I will give Bachmann credit for as that was amazing. The Southern loco you we’re running is a EMD E7. The Coaches you were running with it are Rivarossi Blue Goose Coaches and they don’t work with knuckle couplers. As they have Horn Hook ones. Great review Sam:) always enjoy them because of your honesty!
Thanks for sharing! Yeah sure Bachmann isn't the best quality - but you won't find an Athearn loco with sound for this sort of price! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
It comes down to Bachmann paying attention. The model is a standard GP7. The CNJ units had very distinctive train lighting boxes and other details. Two had these removed after a rebuild, and had Bachmann chosen those numbers the model would have been a bit more realistic. And what’s with the “CMJ” under the road number. Bachmann comes so close to getting it right but craps out. There are exceptions: the N scale PRR K4s are great.
I have one of these in the black Pennsylvania color scheme, nice models for the price. Sound Value is a budget range so realy shouldn't expect much in terms of sound features, as long as it vrooms and honks. :) More expensive sound decoders have a neat motor feedback feature that automatically revs the engine up as load increases, for example when climbing a hill, and same with revving down descending a hill. Adds to the realism as you could imagine the driver notching up the power a bit without you touching the controller.
Hi Sam, a great review of a great well priced locomotive. I have a small collection of American locomotives myself, yes, Bachmann is at the lower end of the spectrum, but ok as an introduction model. The decoders are limited but ok for the price you pay. Most American locos I have, even from the high end manufacturers have the same gear train and mechanism, just maybe a better motor in the higher quality ranges. My collection is mostly Jersey Central and Pennsylvania, so I am a little jealous of yours as Jersey Central models aren't so common here in the UK. All the best and llok forward to more soon, Dave.
Sam, Unfortunely trainworld doesn't have this one any more. I have a few bachman locos, all with dcc and sound. As for start speed,this can be adjusted by changing the cv( configuration variables). You can also change the horn, bells, and engine sounds. It looks like a soundtraxx decoder in it and they can easily be changed out with a newer version with much more options. I really enjoyed your take on it and looking forward to more videos. Randy
The Bachmann DCC decoders are under £10/$12. Cheaper in bulk. And that catalogue (or better still Walthers) you hate is well worth getting if you can, it's like an old Argos catalogue but just for model railways, accessories, parts, electronics etc. Truly a catalogue of dreams :P
If you can get a Jersey Central Fairbanks-Morse Trainmaster, that might make for a good review. They were impressive in real life, using diesels designed for the U.S. Navy submarines. They has a deep penetrating throb while idling that you would feel in your chest. There was a baby Trainmaster, a smaller version but the one you want is Trainmaster.
I'd recommend checking out the Bachmann SC-44 Charger, it's mind blowing. The n scale version (which I have) is by far the most advanced model I've ever come across (working roof strobes out of the box is unheard of in N). It looks great pulling a Surfliner along my California coastline
When an American loco can come with a flywheel and a sound decoder for under 100, it really makes the UK based models expensive. I know some will argue that it is due to the detail and so on, but is better detail really going to make it 3 or 4 times the price? No. It's because people pay that price and keep paying it. I understand the American models are not as high quality, but I don't think the extra features really are a valid reason to justify such a significant price difference.
I have two of these little beasts in the Pennsylvania livery and they are powerful little engines. I need to add a replacement motherboard to them as Soundtraxx makes a full drop in decoder to replace the sound value decoder and DCC ready motherboard. The main issue is the speaker as it looks like they need a 28mm but might need a 25mm instead.
5:00 Sam... 2015 catalog... calm down. It'd be considered an antique and a "Collector's" guide/reference these days. 7:52 Kamloops has one of the "rebuilds" GP10 working for CANDO Rail Service... 8:17 Detail... remember, this model was built in 2015 19:13 Performance... that grease needs servicing (changing) because it's been there eight years without running. Speed... There are "Eight Notches" and levels of engine rev' sound, which, for 2015, was a great deal for a 'bare bones' dcc/sound locomotive. I am grimacing at the slow speed "cogging"... that hardened oil/grease is a big factor, they've since used silicone lubricant. The "Southern" is an E7... Odd loco is the GG1 electric. Mainly used for passenger but eventually for express and fast freight. Please, Sam... service the lubricant issue. Over 10 years will decrease the viscosity. BC, Canada
I can't wait till you get a Broadway limited engine. Especially with paragon 2 or 3. They are expensive but they are worth every dime. I got the K4 and I love it
For the money part, you have a VAT rate of 20% in the UK (same rate as France, Republic of Ireland = 23%, Germany = 19%), add it to the US indicated price to have your final retail price, depending of your country. Back to the model. If you are modelling US railroads from 1950 to 1980, a GP7 is a must-have. For the price, it's a nice model overall. Some naff parts, but acceptable as a tradeoff for the price. The drivetrain is basic, but does the job. Not impressive, but it works. If you get it at GBP 73 (or equivalent), jump on it if you want the DCC part. I'm not on DCC on my US models (N scale), so, this one is not for me. By the way, Sam, are you in for the new LNER A3 Flying Scotsman by Trix ? Preorder in the UK at Rails of Sheffield for, uh... GBP 527. That would be nice to compare her to the OO models by Hornby et al, isn't it ?
Great review Sam. Brilliant on the price too :D Am I mistaken or is the Sonic Models model missing from the logbook? Seems great for the price; not for me though.
Sam, if you really want to try some quality American locos for cheap, you should look into Proto 2000. I bought a proto 2000 pa for $80 and it’s the best locomotive I’ve ever run.
@@SamsTrains most of my higher end models are ones purchased at train shows. You can get an amazing model that just needs a little work to get running again for under $50, sometimes even new in box and never run. But under $100 for brand new, DCC, and sound is impressive to be sure.
Wow, you somehow managed to get two loco's that are almost exactly what were used in the 1985 Movie "Runaway Train" with the ARR F7 #1500 (rather than E7) and a pair of ARR GP7's being ARR GP7 #1801 and ARR GP7 #1810 respectively.
They put too much grease in the gear towers; it shouldn’t be oozing out when you pop the clips off. The gear towers are made of the same slippery engineering plastic (Celcon, I believe, or maybe Delrin) as the hand rails, so the coefficient of friction between the metal axles and the plastic is just as good as a lubricated metal bearing would be. This plastic is super difficult to get paint to stick to; this explains why there are paint chips on the hand rails. It’s also flexible and springy so it should withstand kids (or adults) handling it by the sides. Yes, they look flimsy, but they’re really not.
Yeah the gears should Delrin. And that's definitely true about the handrails being surprisingly durable - BLI found out the hard way what happens when you *don't* use Delrin or metal wire.
I suggest servicing... that oil has been there since 2015 and not a gear turned since. Embarrassing to see such "cogging" on a locomotive that's been 'mothballed' and unused since built. John
At that sort of price for a DCC sound model, that is more than worth it in my eyes. Also, that green southern passenger diesel is an E7 and the odd one out is the GG1
Per the catalogue card, it's a 2014 or 2015 engine, probably on clearance at Trainworld. BTW it's "BOCK-mon" not "BACK-man". "Bach" like Johann Sebastian. With all the Germans in the US, it's a pretty common name, especially here in the Midwest.
Morning Sam, great review! As to which Bachman loco to be looked at next, Bachman made a Rail Diesel Car/RDC which was DCC with sound fitted as well. Perhaps they are still available on line? David
The opinions I've read about USA Bachmann are generally ridiculing the product, while the offerings for UK modellers are much better. That said, I model OO/HO tramway and most of my models have the Bachmann Bogie Brill or PCC car as their power packs. The layout was stored for about 15 years. Out of store and they worked perfectly. The much vaunted (when I bought them) Tenshodo power packs had developed oval wheels over the intervening years. The Brills and PCCs are still running perfectly, some over 35 years old now.
Awesome video Sam. The livery of this loco is absolutely stunning. It really makes me wonder what all liveries exist here in the US… Also just received my Iron Mink vans from Rapido, and I absolutely love them.
The odd one out is the Pennsylvania Railroad GG1 The Southern Railway unit is an Electro-Motive Division(of General Motors) E7/E7a(E for eighteen hundred horsepower and a for cab unit) And while technically the GP7s were GM locos, American railfans and modellers typically refer to them as EMD locos instead Also, yeah that engine is fairly average for American stock as far as I’m aware, and whilst the price being so low is news, the quality really isn’t. Anyways that’s my two cents, ta.
I don’t know if it’s just me but I would love to see Sam review a somewhat modern American diesel locomotive like an sd70Ace or an ac4400cw order something like that
In terms of number of coaches the GP9 can haul,about the same the starting tractive effort is about the sane as the GP7. Where they differ is in horsepower where, since the GP has a higher level, it can haul a heavier train for given speed.- but, honestly, I don't think an extra 250 hp will make much difference
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The prototype CNJ 1523 was built in 1952 and used in mostly in passenger service. In the mid 70s when CNJ was absorbed by Conrail, it was renumbered to 5681 and transfered to NJDOT. NJDOT used it in commuter service until 1993. It was then donated to United RR Historical Society of NJ. It has been restored and is still operable.
Thanks very much for sharing Damian, appreciate the extra info!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Man, you beet me to it😂
@@SamsTrains that’s coupling thingy is actually to decouple from the train just so you are aware sam love the videos👍🏻
The “uncoupling doohickey” is a “coupler cut lever”. The bent part sticking out over the couplers - in real life - has a chain, bar, or strap that lifts a locking pin on the knuckle couplers. These (coupler cut levers) extend out to the sides of the rolling stock so the conductor or brakeman can swing the lever up to uncouple the cars. This way, he/she doesn’t have to risk stepping between the cars when flat switching (shunting) the cars in a yard, or industry siding.
Thanks very much for the extra info William, haha!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The first loco i ever 'Explored" as a kid was a Pennsylvania Rail Road GEEP sitting outside the former PRR Juniata Shops in Altoona PA. On Sundays the shops were closed at that time (1974), and a few of us kids had found an easy way to get through the security fence and we would spend hours playing in a bunch of different assorted Loco's. It was heaven.
As an American who is quite familiar with GP7s, this loco has nice detail, particularly the scale handrails (You shouldn't have dinged this model for them) and it sounds like a GP7. I wish I modeled in HO, this would be on my shopping list. All in all a decent model of an early phase GP7.
The GP7 was the four axle counterpart to the six axle SD7 (GP for General Purpose, SD for Special Duty). The two continued to evolve together as pretty much parallel lines through the 1980s, when new four axle main line power fell out of favor.
It was with the 3,000 hp SD40-2 and 2,000 hp GP38-2 that EMD finally reached the end of the pioneering era. (Dash 2 added to the designation means modular electronics)
When it came out, the SD40-2 hit a perfect balance of power, traction, and reliability that made it incredibly popular. It was also exported widely.
How widely?
Well, the Class 59 is basically an SD40-2 squeezed into the British loading gauge and with Class 58-style cabs slapped on.
And, of course, the Class 59 led to the Class 66.
Sam one of the main reasons I switched to US modelling back in 1993 was cost and quality. Back then I was buying models from Lima and Hornby which to be frank were terrible models and ran like a bag of nails. I was able to get an Athearn blue box model for about £19 with 5 pole motor and flywheels, UK models had ring fields and were about £40-50.
Feels like Sam is slowly, but steadily is getting more and more into American loco's
haha I sure am - I like them! :D
I don't know about that?? LOL!!
I am Welded on to OO all my Layout is OO, so even though this Example is Amazing value.
It's not for me, so hope the American stuff stays where it is, In the US.
Obviously it would be nice if Hornby took note and Improve their Value and Quality.
Fingers Crossed. 😂
Yes! I was hoping you'd pick this one up! Growing up in the state of New Jersey, I've seen this exact loco many times. It's still around and preserved, too. The coal train was a good choice since the Jersey Central ran lots of coal trains from Eastern Pennsylvania to the ports in New York City for export. It's definitely a 5/5 from me. Cheers from the East Coast USA.
Also the odd one out has to be the GG1- it's the only electric engine out on the layout today.
haha yeah - it was very hard to resist! Awesome to hear it's still around too! Thanks a lot for sharing,
Sam :)
Wow! £73/$89 for DCC! Great find Sam! Can't wait to see more American diesels join your roster.
Yeah exactly - just awesome isn't it?! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Those catalog ads are a good way to date a bachmann model, I'd recommend looking at the year before throwing it out to see how long the model has been sitting
If you’re looking for a GP7 that does have more separately fitted parts and cab detail, I recommend Athearn’s GP7s. I got myself one in Western Pacific colors and it does prove itself pretty well. One thing I will say though is that it seems just a little faster than it should be, even probably starting off faster than this, but we’ll have to see depending if you get one or not. Can’t wait to see more!
Can you pair it to a Bachmann DCC EZ command center?
Just make sure it's Athearn's Genesis series, and not the Ready to Roll series. The RTR's are around the same level of detail as this one, while the Genesis is very nicely and highly detailed.
@@kmsbismarck5342 Yes but you will limit yourself to only 9 functions with the DCC Sound variant which has 28 functions.
An ideal locomotive for anyone wanting to get into the hobby. When you apply the 3 meter rule you are not looking at the loco with a magnifying glass as it runs around a layout, so any small imperfections are minimal. Great value. Cheers Greg
The odd man out is the GG-1 electric. Although it's probably the mechanism, the high speed is actually near prototype, for that particular railroad. The Central of New Jersey geared their GP-7/9s and other similar locos for higher speed operations for commuter passenger services, which explains the detail appliances on the short hood. A good review of a (for the US) medium priced DCC sound loco. The motor is s probably a three pole based on the cogging on the initial test. Unfortunately you can't tell without taking it apart. They are generally good motors, and performance is generally better on DCC, than straight DC. Enjoy your new first generation American diesel.
First things first Sam. You have to drive a DCC sound loco to get the sound right. The EMD locos were designed with 8 power notches in their cab controllers so as you apply power you hear the engine spool up to its next notch setting. Similarly when reducing power when the engine rpm reduces per notch. This is quite different to many if our indigenous diesels in the UK which used control air pressure to increase RPM. Locos such such as Sulzer type 2s type 3s and type 4s had an infinitely variable power controller on the drivers desk, the only notch being the move from "off" (idle) to "on" where you wont discern an engine rpm change.
The loco on your middle track was an E unit - basically two of the same 567 engines as in your GP7 each turning a generator to provide effectively double the power of your geep.
Roughly GP = General purpose (known as geep) riding on four wheel.trucks
E = express unit a faster passenger unit running in three axle trucks (A1A or Co)
SD = special duty in other words six wheel trucks. EMD often offered their designs as GP or SD so your Jersey Central GP7 might also have been offered as an SD7 with the same engine but six wheel bogies and six traction motors.
This policy went pretty much up to the GP50 / SD50 and i believe one RR had some four axle GP60s.
I have a few of these Bachmann diesels and yeah they're pretty good for the money. When I looked up the drawbar pull of these I think it figured out to be at least 25-30 free rolling 40ft boxcars so those 34ft hoppers aren't even going to cause a real strain on that diesel. Awesome review as always and I love seeing when you take a look at some of our baragain deals herenin the states.
5:15 🤣 love it!
This thing is a beast (model and prototype)! It's amazing how some of the locos from this era have lasted so long - I was really impressed to find out that Portugal's Série 1500 loco was introduced in 1948 and is still going strong. There are probably similar examples all over the world of locos this age and older still in active mainline use. I can't see many of today's newer locos doing the same, but who knows, maybe I'll be proved wrong. It'll probably be those dog ugly Class 70s, won't it?
When I had to go to New York City I used to take the Jersey Central. Interesting line, it was the railroad that
introduced the blue passenger conductor uniform, the first to use automatic signaling and bought the
first diesel-electric locomotive. Their main passenger terminal in Jersey City was featured in the opening
of the movie Funny Girl (with Barbara Streisand).
As an aside, the GP7 and GP9 were designed with the intention of being dull and uninteresting. The E series
were supposed to be the bathing beauties of the GM-EMD locomotive line up.
Cracking deal there Sam! Many details can easily be enhanced with a brush if so wished. And should the motor need replacement, you know where to look and how hahah. Hopefully, the integrated electronics won't fail early since it can't receive a decoder on its own. But hey, for that money, it's quite the clever thought out package. Lovely to see that you can now run and review on DCC as well. Cheerio.
They use name brand Soundtraxx Tsunami decoders, so they are fine. There is a way to upgrade them to their Generation 2 Tsunami decoders that are much better, but their Gen 1 Econami is acceptable on a budget model.
Fun fact about the early geep engines, they could be ordered in short hood forward or long hood forward versions. the main difference being the way the controls face and what side the horns and bells are on. Some railroads prefered the long hood forward versions as it resembled the steam locomotives they were used to. Eventually however, people saw the advantages in having better visibility and locomotives built to run long hood forward became a thing of the past.
Sam, thank you so much for reviewing another US loco. The rail line closest to my childhood home ran GP7s. Unfortunately, Bachmann built-in decoders have a poor reputation here in the US, and I have personal experience of this. I purchased a Bachman GE 70 Tonner with DCC a couple of years ago, but its performance was so poor (and noisy) at low speeds that I set it aside. However, several months ago I got the courage to modify its printed circuit board and installed a decent decoder and KeepAlive (from TCS). It runs much better now. Please don't let your experience with this particular loco put you off DCC. Even though I have a very small shunting layout, I've gone from DC to DCC because of the superior motor control with decent decoders. Cheers from Wisconsin!
I have definitely enjoyed the Spectrum series steam locomotives. They are not up to brass import quality in mechanisms or bodies but they run well and are well detailed. The logging locomotives are particularly nice, and the On30 line is a fun way to use HO/OO track that might otherwise look exaggerated in rail height.
Agreed .
That is the same locomotive I purchased five years ago! I bought it because of the Central of New Jersey livery. Was really impressed with the paint job and the sound. A joy to switch with or run a short commuter train as the prototype did.
I don't know how much you would be interested in but look into getting a bachmann rolling stock with flashing eot device or just the eot to put on on of your bachmann rolling stock. Eot is a device for that says how much air pressure you have and flashing. If your loco has a head of train device in the cab it makes doing brake test so much easier.
But you should look into it if you are interested.
I understand there are people out there who wouldn't use a soldering iron, to remove and replace the decoder, but that is easily done. In America, Bachmann is looked down upon by many, as an owner of most MFGs in North American locomotives, I believe they are "quite alright", and perform very well. Bachmann finally started installing Soundtraxx decoders in some of their units, I hope that continues. As always, I enjoy your content , thank you for sharing.
Hi Sam
Recent Bachmann and Dapol DCC sound fitted locos have been stated to work on DC. The Sonic release also does so and Rapido day theirs do too.
The top speed is lower than a DC ready version of the same model.
Used on a DC layout, as one increases the dial one gets the sound of the engine starting and then gets into chuffing, changing to the beat of a faster speed. Rails tell me that, on the Sonic one, if you put the speed on too quickly you get wheel slip sounds! Sounds amazing. I am waiting for mine to check it out. KR still use the old style chips which do not select DC.
Love your reviews.
The odd locomotive out is the GG1, which is an electric and not a diesel.
The GP7 and GP9 are some amazing locomotives as nearly every diesel made afterward was based on them.
That locomotive on the middle line is an EMD E7. I'm surprised you had trouble with those Rivarossi passenger cars as I have a few and they rarely derail. They might need the axles and couplers adjusted.
The GP7 is the only US diesel that I like but in HO scale it is very hard to get a good detailed engine. Not like you get with UK engines. You get them at a good price but that is it . This is a good looking engine and with the dcc sound that’s what makes it a good deal . Great video keep them coming. Those catalog order forms tell you exactly when the engine was introduced for sale just look at the date of the catalog.
Love me some American first-generation diesels! The Jersey Central ran through my area back in the day, and there's a decent amount of their equipment still in preservation. Now if you thought this was impressive, I'd give ScaleTrains a look. They're a great manufacturer with ridiculously detailed products.
I forgot to mention that the loco you couldn't remember is either a F-7/9, (4 axel), or a E-8/9, (6 axel). F- units were generally freight locos although many were dual purpose, while the E-units were just the opposite being mainly passenger engines. While many of the 4 axel loco's, both GPs and F-units have survived into the modern era, both in preservation,and in active use, there are only a handful of E-units left, mostly preserved for excursion service, or as power for a railroad's executive trains.
Thanks for the review Sam.👍
That hopper rake looked great, especially the effect of the Nickel Plate Road coal treatment.
Do believe I saw a shooting "Bull" go by !😄
Thanks a lot Steve - yeah I really like the way those hoppers look too!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Middle loco is an E8 for the Southern Railway. It hauled around passenger service and two were preserved in running order, IIRC.
I see some people here are calling the southern locomotive an EMD E8, it’s actually an E7 due to the windows being square and not circular.
Sam, if you ever want to experience the high end of American models, I highly recommend Athearn Genesis and Scaletrains. Both of them are on par or better than Accurascale as far as detail is concerned.
Sure, I've tried models from Athearn Genesis too - very good! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
25:02 That locomotive is an EMD E unit.. possibly an E7a . It is a contemporary your General Purpose 7 (GP7). It was primarily built for Express passenger Trains. The E stands for its power class of Eighteen Hundred horsepower, it has a smaller similar looking sibling called an F unit ( for Fifteen hundred HP, and has 4 axles).
What you have there is an A unit, which has a drivers cab; if you wanted more power, you would simply lash up more B units (cab-less units) and control them from the A unit's cab.
The easy way to tell an E7 from the E8/9 are the square side windows.
The odd one out is the GG1. As for printed catalogs, I love them. In fact I collect them. 😀
The Green Bachmann is an E8 or E9 I bought one for myself in the PRR livery because of your review on it. still haven't run it though I don't have a layout yet
I suppose the GG1 was out of place. The car bodied unit is either an E (A1A) or an F (Bo Bo) most roads ran GPs or SDs with the long hood first for safety. Excellent value for money, I like running trains and I'm prepared to put up with a shortage of detail, and since I've never heard the real thing...
Sam: no no, no no no.
Me: Laughs hysterically when he find the 220-page full-Color combined Bachmann & Williams Catalog 6.5” ✖️8.50” Digest size.
Reading the comments your US subscribers seem 'over the moon'. Stars and stripes... But Bachmann stuff aint my piece of cake anymore. Cheap and not reliable in the long run that's my experience. If you want this one to run smooth on all speed steps you'll have some CV settings to tweak. Using JMRI - Decoder Pro is 'The' way to do this. And since you're into DCC now it's a must to check it out.
Happy model railroading Sam. Cheers.
I actually have one of those that I custom-painted to look like a CSX GP-7 locomotive. I didn’t buy it with sound, and I had to remove the factory decoders, as bachmann non-sound decoders are just trash. The crazy thing is that I got mine for $52. It lasted about two years before its decoder just gave out. I bought it in 2021, and its decoder cut out in early 2023. I just bought a new Soundtraxx decoder. GP-7s are generally basic locomotives, but they are very reliable, and very popular.
I would recommend to you Sam is to get a Rapido Train Via Rail F40PH-2D. It is a good look engine and think you would like the livery.
That is a damn good price. If one allocates $25 for a decoder with minimum features, it is like $63 for a DCC ready, new loco. Even old stuff on eBay goes for very much higher prices here! Those are not DCC ready at all. Also, the conditions are not reliable anyway. Great buy, Sam.
The GP7 here in the U.S. is a fair equivalent to the Class 08 shunter. Small shunting locomotive with vast utility, dirt cheap to mass produce and sell so nearly EVERY big railroad in the United States had these and a fair amount still in service today.
This is much bigger; the 08 was only 350 hp and had a maximum speed of about 15 mph. It was strictly for yard use only
@AndreiTupolev True. U.S. locomotives are almost always bigger, but Idk if I can think of a better analogy.
@@TheRealEasyA Compare it to your mainline freight diesels. Although they were advertised as "road switchers" most of their early years was pulling mainline freight. It was only towards the end of their service lives did they become yard switchers.
Hi Sam, looks like you were lucky there with a cheap loco including decoder! On a different topic just wanted to let you know about a slight loophole with Hornby Hobby Rewards. The company said all pre-orders on 22/11/22 would have their points included in the current total. However to do this they automatically analysed all orders which were in pre-order state on that exact day and included points for those. This then did not include any orders which arrived in the warehouse on that day as their order status changed from pre-order to preparing for despatch sometime during the day. Luckily when I raised this, Hornby manually updated my rewards total to include them as they were between pre-order and despatched in their system but clearly not actually delivered to the customer (still pre-order at 00:01 on the 22nd).
Keep in mind it's Bachman, it won't last long. The engine on the middle line is an E8 or 7, but any e unit after the E6 had the Bulldog knose. The oddball out is the GG1 due to it being electric
I associate Bachman’s North American products with being really cheap with a stupid price tag. If you want better North American trains buy from Scaletrains or Athearn. I would also say Rapido but you know what their products are like from the RS11. Atlas’s highest end range is also better than the line your GP40 came from. But the GG1 I will give Bachmann credit for as that was amazing. The Southern loco you we’re running is a EMD E7. The Coaches you were running with it are Rivarossi Blue Goose Coaches and they don’t work with knuckle couplers. As they have Horn Hook ones. Great review Sam:) always enjoy them because of your honesty!
The southern is not a f7, its either a e8 or e9
@@57chevybellair01 It’s a E7. That’s what I said.
Thanks for sharing! Yeah sure Bachmann isn't the best quality - but you won't find an Athearn loco with sound for this sort of price!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Too true! But Athearn is better quality so the bump in price is worth it
@@railsofontario3029 I`d take a look at Atlas, not as expensive as Scaletrains, better than Athearn..
It comes down to Bachmann paying attention. The model is a standard GP7. The CNJ units had very distinctive train lighting boxes and other details. Two had these removed after a rebuild, and had Bachmann chosen those numbers the model would have been a bit more realistic. And what’s with the “CMJ” under the road number. Bachmann comes so close to getting it right but craps out. There are exceptions: the N scale PRR K4s are great.
The GG1 is the odd one out, being an electric loco!
I have one of these in the black Pennsylvania color scheme, nice models for the price. Sound Value is a budget range so realy shouldn't expect much in terms of sound features, as long as it vrooms and honks. :)
More expensive sound decoders have a neat motor feedback feature that automatically revs the engine up as load increases, for example when climbing a hill, and same with revving down descending a hill. Adds to the realism as you could imagine the driver notching up the power a bit without you touching the controller.
Hi Sam, a great review of a great well priced locomotive. I have a small collection of American locomotives myself, yes, Bachmann is at the lower end of the spectrum, but ok as an introduction model. The decoders are limited but ok for the price you pay. Most American locos I have, even from the high end manufacturers have the same gear train and mechanism, just maybe a better motor in the higher quality ranges. My collection is mostly Jersey Central and Pennsylvania, so I am a little jealous of yours as Jersey Central models aren't so common here in the UK. All the best and llok forward to more soon, Dave.
This model Bachmann is very nice and it is a perfect budget model for anyone who wants to buy a simple model Sam.
I saw what looked like an FP45 in AT&SF livery there near the S-curve. 😍
Sam,
Unfortunely trainworld doesn't have this one any more. I have a few bachman locos, all with dcc and sound. As for start speed,this can be adjusted by changing the cv( configuration variables). You can also change the horn, bells, and engine sounds. It looks like a soundtraxx decoder in it and they can easily be changed out with a newer version with much more options. I really enjoyed your take on it and looking forward to more videos.
Randy
The Bachmann DCC decoders are under £10/$12. Cheaper in bulk.
And that catalogue (or better still Walthers) you hate is well worth getting if you can, it's like an old Argos catalogue but just for model railways, accessories, parts, electronics etc. Truly a catalogue of dreams :P
Super video Sam. The American diesels are really good looking and multiple units together are awesome. Enjoyed your review. Have fun . 🎉🎉🎉
Great review Sammy always a pleasure to hear U keep them coming!
The Loco on the middle line is an E8
Also, the odd loco out is the GG1, because it’s an electric
It's an E7
I've bought a few switchers I repaint into USATC livery. The sound is always ok.
Nice to see you still going strong!
If you can get a Jersey Central Fairbanks-Morse Trainmaster, that might make for a good review.
They were impressive in real life, using diesels designed for the U.S. Navy submarines. They
has a deep penetrating throb while idling that you would feel in your chest. There was a baby
Trainmaster, a smaller version but the one you want is Trainmaster.
I'd recommend checking out the Bachmann SC-44 Charger, it's mind blowing. The n scale version (which I have) is by far the most advanced model I've ever come across (working roof strobes out of the box is unheard of in N). It looks great pulling a Surfliner along my California coastline
When an American loco can come with a flywheel and a sound decoder for under 100, it really makes the UK based models expensive.
I know some will argue that it is due to the detail and so on, but is better detail really going to make it 3 or 4 times the price? No. It's because people pay that price and keep paying it. I understand the American models are not as high quality, but I don't think the extra features really are a valid reason to justify such a significant price difference.
Great video as always Sam. The Bachmann GP7 is a nice diesel locomotive. It looks nice 👍
I once paid £45 for a DCC sound Class 67. It’s an older Lima/Hornby 67 with a Loksound V3.5 in it as well as lights fitted.
Uh oh ! There is a mistake on the cab printing. The printing says CMJ. It should say CNJ -- Central railroad of New Jersey.
I have two of these little beasts in the Pennsylvania livery and they are powerful little engines. I need to add a replacement motherboard to them as Soundtraxx makes a full drop in decoder to replace the sound value decoder and DCC ready motherboard. The main issue is the speaker as it looks like they need a 28mm but might need a 25mm instead.
5:00 Sam... 2015 catalog... calm down. It'd be considered an antique and a "Collector's" guide/reference these days.
7:52 Kamloops has one of the "rebuilds" GP10 working for CANDO Rail Service...
8:17 Detail... remember, this model was built in 2015
19:13 Performance... that grease needs servicing (changing) because it's been there eight years without running.
Speed... There are "Eight Notches" and levels of engine rev' sound, which, for 2015, was a great deal for a 'bare bones' dcc/sound locomotive.
I am grimacing at the slow speed "cogging"... that hardened oil/grease is a big factor, they've since used silicone lubricant.
The "Southern" is an E7...
Odd loco is the GG1 electric. Mainly used for passenger but eventually for express and fast freight.
Please, Sam... service the lubricant issue. Over 10 years will decrease the viscosity.
BC, Canada
Fun fact Locomotives like the GP7 and GP9 have lavatories in the front, and that’s why you have the High Hood instead of a standard Low Hood.
Looks good for the price you paid. The Bachmann DDA-40X and 4449 daylight look great as well.
I can't wait till you get a Broadway limited engine. Especially with paragon 2 or 3. They are expensive but they are worth every dime. I got the K4 and I love it
For the money part, you have a VAT rate of 20% in the UK (same rate as France, Republic of Ireland = 23%, Germany = 19%), add it to the US indicated price to have your final retail price, depending of your country.
Back to the model. If you are modelling US railroads from 1950 to 1980, a GP7 is a must-have. For the price, it's a nice model overall. Some naff parts, but acceptable as a tradeoff for the price. The drivetrain is basic, but does the job. Not impressive, but it works.
If you get it at GBP 73 (or equivalent), jump on it if you want the DCC part. I'm not on DCC on my US models (N scale), so, this one is not for me.
By the way, Sam, are you in for the new LNER A3 Flying Scotsman by Trix ? Preorder in the UK at Rails of Sheffield for, uh... GBP 527. That would be nice to compare her to the OO models by Hornby et al, isn't it ?
I have one of those in a Pennsylvania Railroad livery it's one of my two whole diesel locomotives the other is a G scale 44 ton center cab switcher
Great review Sam. Brilliant on the price too :D
Am I mistaken or is the Sonic Models model missing from the logbook?
Seems great for the price; not for me though.
Come on Sam, get some model German steam locos on review. They are fantastic to look at in real life.
ah the good ol gp9 with that big ol 567 emd gotta love it
Sam, if you really want to try some quality American locos for cheap, you should look into Proto 2000. I bought a proto 2000 pa for $80 and it’s the best locomotive I’ve ever run.
Awesome video Sam. Doesnt look like a bad loco tbh but not to my taste. I bought a Bach N class today, malachite green and boxed, £42!
That's fair enough - ahh sounds lovely, what a great deal!! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
We found how trainworld sold it cheap, the catalog paper had 2015 on it. It has been in inventory for a while.
I love an old high hood GP7. Don't own a Bachmann one myself, but I may have to look into getting one.
Ahh interesting - well if you can find a good price these are well worth it! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains most of my higher end models are ones purchased at train shows. You can get an amazing model that just needs a little work to get running again for under $50, sometimes even new in box and never run. But under $100 for brand new, DCC, and sound is impressive to be sure.
Wow, you somehow managed to get two loco's that are almost exactly what were used in the 1985 Movie "Runaway Train" with the ARR F7 #1500 (rather than E7) and a pair of ARR GP7's being ARR GP7 #1801 and ARR GP7 #1810 respectively.
They put too much grease in the gear towers; it shouldn’t be oozing out when you pop the clips off. The gear towers are made of the same slippery engineering plastic (Celcon, I believe, or maybe Delrin) as the hand rails, so the coefficient of friction between the metal axles and the plastic is just as good as a lubricated metal bearing would be. This plastic is super difficult to get paint to stick to; this explains why there are paint chips on the hand rails. It’s also flexible and springy so it should withstand kids (or adults) handling it by the sides. Yes, they look flimsy, but they’re really not.
Yeah the gears should Delrin. And that's definitely true about the handrails being surprisingly durable - BLI found out the hard way what happens when you *don't* use Delrin or metal wire.
I suggest servicing... that oil has been there since 2015 and not a gear turned since. Embarrassing to see such "cogging" on a locomotive that's been 'mothballed' and unused since built. John
Always a good day when sams train uploads a American diesel video lol
The Southern locomotive on the middle line is an EMD EA7 or E7A. The E8 is a later model.
EMD E7. I put your review of it on one of my many playlists on my channel.
I saw the GG1 which is an electric locomotive built for the Pennsylvania railroad
The £73 DCC loco... (that cost £73 to post!)
At that sort of price for a DCC sound model, that is more than worth it in my eyes. Also, that green southern passenger diesel is an E7 and the odd one out is the GG1
Oh yeah definitely more than worth it - very impressive!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Per the catalogue card, it's a 2014 or 2015 engine, probably on clearance at Trainworld. BTW it's "BOCK-mon" not "BACK-man". "Bach" like Johann Sebastian. With all the Germans in the US, it's a pretty common name, especially here in the Midwest.
The "F" on the frame actually stands for the clearance plate, like on 50 foot freight cars, they are AAR Plate "C"
The F at one end of a diesel indicates which end is the "front" of the locomotive as well.
Morning Sam, great review! As to which Bachman loco to be looked at next, Bachman made a Rail Diesel Car/RDC which was DCC with sound fitted as well. Perhaps they are still available on line?
David
The opinions I've read about USA Bachmann are generally ridiculing the product, while the offerings for UK modellers are much better. That said, I model OO/HO tramway and most of my models have the Bachmann Bogie Brill or PCC car as their power packs. The layout was stored for about 15 years. Out of store and they worked perfectly. The much vaunted (when I bought them) Tenshodo power packs had developed oval wheels over the intervening years. The Brills and PCCs are still running perfectly, some over 35 years old now.
Original Bachmann US was low quality, today's is equal to Athearn or Walthers
Awesome video Sam. The livery of this loco is absolutely stunning. It really makes me wonder what all liveries exist here in the US…
Also just received my Iron Mink vans from Rapido, and I absolutely love them.
Its Jersey, so what is not to like about that!
I have the union Pacific version, it's pretty cool.
One of the better bachmann engines
Very nice! Will have to google that livery!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Curious about one thing, Sam
Will you re-review your Bachmann Class 24/1? Since you now have a proper DCC system
I could demo it for sure - good idea!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The odd one out is the Pennsylvania Railroad GG1
The Southern Railway unit is an Electro-Motive Division(of General Motors) E7/E7a(E for eighteen hundred horsepower and a for cab unit)
And while technically the GP7s were GM locos, American railfans and modellers typically refer to them as EMD locos instead
Also, yeah that engine is fairly average for American stock as far as I’m aware, and whilst the price being so low is news, the quality really isn’t.
Anyways that’s my two cents, ta.
The Southern cab locomotive is an E8. It's nowhere near as cheap cost wise, but I was blown: away by their Siemens "Charger" for Amtrak.
Thanks for that Richard - I'll have to look into that too!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
It's an E7A
@@willausterman3104 I stand corrected, thank you.
I don’t know if it’s just me but I would love to see Sam review a somewhat modern American diesel locomotive like an sd70Ace or an ac4400cw order something like that
I have a Pensy one. She is a beauty but the sounds are very budget. But she runs very well.
Hey Sam - great video as always! Would love to see you review an Australian Loco on day :)
In terms of number of coaches the GP9 can haul,about the same the starting tractive effort is about the sane as the GP7. Where they differ is in horsepower where, since the GP has a higher level, it can haul a heavier train for given speed.- but, honestly, I don't think an extra 250 hp will make much difference