Photography Is Dead and YouTube Is All We Have Left
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Photography is dead... not.
As a hobbyist, I don't care if my photos are known by other person or not. I make images first for my own pleasure.
Consider being appreciated as a bonus. And there are younger photographers who still make prints and publish books.
What... prints and physical books on digital age? Isn't that legacy practice from the past?
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Completely agree with this
hobbyist might not affected by dying industry but the professionals that make a living out of it are affecting a lot, that's point he is trying to make I would say. I'm also a hobbyist, not exactly non affected because I can't move up to make it a career which I wanted to, there's no jobs available and freelance will have a very rough start where I live. Unless you're rich.
If you take a photo of 1 person and they see it and love it, then you win my good friend. Doesnt matter if anybody else see's it.
@@munarong The industry isnt dying, it took a break because of Covid. I shoot concerts, engagement photos, high school sports for yearbooks, senior portraits, sports portraits (groups and individual shots), street and wildlife for fun. I live in a big city where there's more events than there are photographers, so I'll go to a mid level festival in the summer and maybe see 3 or 4 other photographers (usually from out of state), so its not overly crowded with photographers.
Right now, I'm seeing more people wanting me to take photos than ever before. The time is now, not the time was then.
"Most photographers never reach their full potential because they sit around and wait for someone else to tell them to go take a photograph." Carpe Diem my friend, never stop working.
@@munarong I do a lot of work with a nikon D7000 and a 400$ 70-200 Tameron f2.8, and a few cheap godox TTL's. you dont need to be rich, just work part time and you could easily afford a cheap set up to shoot any event or portrait you can think of.
"The industry of photography is dead" is a stupid argument. Sure, the "Glory Days," as Andre called them, might be gone, but photography is hardly dead. Why in the world should we bother to watch your channel about a dead industry? I started to feel bad for the people who actually believed this but then I realized that Darwin & Wallace were still right about Natural Selection. For those who have what it takes to make it, they will. For those who don't, they won't. But whining about it won't help a bit.
Photographers, this industry is making tremendous strides. It's not like the 70s, 80s, 90s, or even 10 years ago. It's different...just like your car. Hop in the enjoy the luxurious new ride!
Correction to title: *The INDUSTRY of photography is not as strong as it used to be.
There are 2 ladies across the street from me that shoot weddings and they make bank.
Meanwhile, I shoot wildlife, macro, and astro, and make nothing, because I DO do it for myself.
But saying, "photography is dead" is about as clikcbaity as it gets.
@@OhhhhhhhBugger won't let me edit 😉 You're right though...
The old photography is dead, long live the new photography. The career of teaching people how to do photography as a form of self expression, art therapy, just increased by a factor of 1 million or more. If you can combine photography as art therapy with something like IFS and franchise it, you’ll be the next billionaire.
@@josephcamosy1999 oooooo, very interesting
You are so right! That's why many successful photographers are teaching due to the changes and the economy, I have over 44 years as an event and wedding photographer! The industry as a whole is tanking! Young photographers living with their parents have undercut the industry ...how do you compete? You can't ! Over priced cameras will eventually go out of business! A.I will change destroy everything!
@@PrestigePhotog YOU should have done this video!
There is combat cam in the military.
But you are 99% right. The cellphone killed it, dead, buried. When I worked for newspapers in the USAF, one thing we frowned upon was the grip & grin photos. Now that is all we get on cellphones, only it's grins, grins and more grins, aka selfies and group shots. As a photographer since the 70s and learned the PJ style, I make great and silly photos of family. I do this to be different and bring another side to people, especially young children. Other than that, shooting pix of a fire hydrant is beyond boring, landscape which everyone does. It's the oddball photos I go for like the skyline scarred by clouds of smoke from a huge brush fire in Los Angeles.
Most of the time it's getting pix of oddball things like my wife getting here haircut, grandson with icing all over his face, son cooking at his BBQ, wife smoking trees to get rid of bugs, anything by the typical crap most people do today.
Idk man. I hired a photographer for my wedding.. and my kids baby photos.. and their first year photos.. and annual family photos. I’ve had a camera in my hands for years but still can appreciate others perspective.
In Poland, I think until the late 90s, you had to pass the exam with a certificate to call yourself a "photographer". I wish they could bring this back. I've met 7 years ago a wedding photographer (he earned very good money) and he asked me how can I shoot in manual and how do I know Photoshop because he doesn't know anything... He said that the auto mode does a good job. I flipped the table and lost my hopes for being ever recognised... 😬
So programming is dead as I can't land myself on a programmer job and AI is taking over. I can do this all say😂 Reading the comments it seems dead is for those who can't make a living out of it, and otherwise. So it's a personal biz issue, not an industry phenomenon. Industry keeps changing
@@serverboyuk yes, the business is dead for phtogs. The art is diluted by volume.
Photography as an industry is dead for the one who thinks it is dead. Yes the margins have reduced and competitive. But genres have changed and we have to keep with the times.
@@rajshekharkhandeparkar352 great point!
RUclips DIED some years ago. How many Cat vids were forced on the Screens over the years?
@@bidenisasnake9932 😂😂😂
I worked for the last couple of years mainly as a photographer and now i work as a part of a larger group of freelance work in different skillsets. Its not dead at all, its just you need to take photos that people are using, and have clients that pay money, and combine it with video work. If you want to run around taking street photography and landscape stuff then fine but i dont know anybody who wants to pay for personal projects like that.
@@djmouglie I was referring more to my stock portfolio with Alamy which has taken a financial downfall. I've never made a penny with street photography and can't imagine trying to sell a zine or book which I see others attempt often. I haven't done client based photos in over a decade, by choice, due to having to deal with "clients". Always want more than they agree to.
Photography, i.e. PAID still photography, is dead because the youngest generation who have the attention spans to stop and appreciate a still photo are elder millennials born before 1985... Less than 10% of people born since 1990 would pay for imagery that doesn't move and make noises...
I don’t agree. The interest in photography is rapidly growing again. Numbers of visitors and buyers have been going up for the last 5 years continuously at all the major photography fairs. Camera (and film!) sales are going up again. More and more young people are discovering photography again, being tired of their mobile phone devices. I would say that exactly the opposite is happening.
I was talking fairly specifically about the business of Photography has gotten to the point where it is almost dead. The interest in photography on the other hand does seem to be on the uptick and that's a great thing. I hope it's just not a trend like vinyl records and new/old turntables
Actually, Flickr still has a lot of people interested in photography (much more so than Instagram).
@cherylm7321 Everything old is new again!
I have been since 1986 and you just need to adapt, overcome, and improvise. I shot for papers for 30 years, and the NFL for 15 years. I am semi-retired and still shoot. I also need to point out that now is actually a good time to buy high-end DSLR cameras and lenses at cut-rate prices for Pros and people starting their photo career.
Have you considered using agency? So far I see so many photographers/artist who shoots commercially using agency. Like art partner, art commerce, and etc
@@zoneVgroup I have shot for agencies, large and small. Please understand that while I lament the contraction of the business of Photography, I'm not dependent upon photographic income. I appreciate your tip tjough
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography gotcha. Usually the agency rep the artist and most of the time they get job through the agency. I don’t know if they actually shoot for the actual agency.
I make art with digital photographs taken from my humble Motorola phone. I'm not a photographer, I'm an artist. I don't intend to make money on my art, nor do I care what anyone thinks about it, it is simply a legacy I will leave behind for someone to enjoy someday and an occupation of my time while I'm still alive. Photography is a very simple way and inexpensive way to enjoy time. That is the gift it offers you.
@@justineaves1977 wow... You should write that somewhere...other than here of course!
Photography is far from dead now that everyone has a camera in their pocket more people are taking photographs than at anytime in history.
@@MrGarrych thanks for your comment, but I was kind of talking about the industry and business of photography
I started doing wedding and corporate event photography in 2022 and make over 100k/yr doing it April-October. Photography isn't dead IMO, it's just that the money is in the less creative genres.
That is incredible! Carry on!
Yeah the money for me has been in Commercial/Contruction/Military. Worked as a D.O.D contractor with the Army for many years doing a lot of crazy video/photo stuff. Currently also making over 100k on salary doing aerial work shooting from a helicopter. I gave up wedding work about 4 years ago, I just didn't have it in me anymore ; ) The job market has definitely changed and it's a tough career path but the work is there, it's just finding that niche.
Businesses are not interested in photo or video. They are interested in what the photos and videos does for them. In your case, find a niche. Then, find a problem that you can fix with photo and you will be fine.
@@samt8017 I like that theory. Thank you!
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography money is no longer in talent or experience, it’s in solving problems.
Maybe photography is dead. If all you want is to make a living from it I guess it could be difficult. Myself I get a different satisfaction from photography. Seeing the faces of people light up with joy, when they remember times long forgotten. Seeing the ohh of what some people never knew was captured does it for me. And occasionally I get blessed with some $ from people who want prints. Photography is not dead maybe your joy for it is.
@ingramdixon6473 while your points are beautiful and valid, forgoing the pressure of trying to make a living in photography has returned my joy for photography to me. I'm sorry if you took my video the wrong way.
I can't even fathom your comment or figure out how to respond to it (and many others) without coming off as incredibly insulting. I have young guys today who are thrilled because they are able to make $50k a year from photography. If I had to live on $50k a year, I'd shoot myself... When I started, a halfway decent product photographer in a decent market - the kind of photographer no one has ever heard of, could easily make low to mid six figures. Today, he's right, it's over. You want to find your joy, go right ahead, but digital, along with folks like you, is what killed it. I'm glad I already made my money.
As far as making a living from photography, unless you shoot weddings, you're going to starve to death. And depending on the wedding market where you live, you still might starve to death. The old saying "what's the difference between a large pizza and a professional photographer." A large pizza can feed a family of four. As a pro, I did it for 40 years as a second job, I had a full-time job and did photography nights and weekends and vacations. I did ok. But now people don't want to hire you to shoot a graduating senior and modeling agencies will accept lousy cell phone photos instead of professionally done images. The whole industry has changed to a point that I would not encourage anyone to go into it, unless they have a full-time job and are doing it professionally on the side, like I did. MWAC's (moms with a camera) really bit into our business because they charged very little. Most of their work was awful, but the low cost attracted people. A few were talented and went on to become respectable photographers, but the damage was done. Digital began the death spiral, and now AI. Now anyone who is computer literate can make a good image. In the day cream rose to the top, that was what separated the amateur from the pro. Now, everyone who wants is a pro, there are no guard rails.
@@guyphoto9437 Thanks Guy. You said it better than I ever could have
Photography is art an artist can use any camera and make a subject pop. What is dieing is the subject art form composition. Photography is making pictures anybody with a phone camera can take a picture. But its making a picture its still relivant today. So photography will never die.
@@abphoto I was mostly speaking professional photography, but you're right.
Photography isn't dead, you're just not looking in the right places.
I shoot concerts, events, candids, engagement photos, senior portraits, you name it. There's always a need for high quality, professional photos made by great photographers.
The general public doesn't fully understand that, but there are still plenty of people who do.
Clout from social media is gone, but if that's all you got into it for, then for you, photography is dead.
What is utterly dead and soulless is youtube.
@@davidprentice5442 not if you find the right channels to follow, the interests you like and the people that can enlighten and enrich your life
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography If it weren't for ad blockers, I would not be on here at all.
@@bidenisasnake9932 don't even know what that means.
Confusing, but photography is not dead, however where it’s evolving is unrecognizable as photo work,and before you change any work in photoshop or topaz studio you have to start with a photo. There Doesn’t appear to be a standard for what this change should be called, but it is exciting. However photoshop AI changes are cartoonish, and unrecognizable as photography. I would ask to offer an open discussion to share opinions on this radical change… however, if you are interested, please insist on “ civil discourse “ only. I know I am asking a lot, but someone needs to start the conversation.
@@johnconn982 I think you just did
Fantastic video. I agree with everything you say... I was many, many years ahead with the thought that photography is dead... for children, and for those who don't know what they are saying, you will never understand it. People speak each one with their own reason... without knowing what they are saying... new times... new adaptations... as always... as a profession there are very few people who make a living and live very well just with photography... I'm not talking about content creators, filmmakers, etc. etc. I remember very well the transition from negative to digital... many photographers died there because they didn't have the ability to adapt... now with AI many will die too... I find it very funny that young people want to enter a world that no longer exists... it's funny... it's always been like this and it will always be like this!
@@Robert0Soares I have very similar thoughts and I couldn't agree with you more. I think camera companies will be out of business in 10 years.
More people are taking photos and video right now than any time in history. It is harder to stand apart now. There are many, many more ways to show off your work, but less ways to stand out from the crowd. I guess if art depends entirely on positive feedback, then it may be dead. But was it truly art if that was the goal?
@@foilfanatic this!
I dont know why people forget but in 90s being accepted to a stock agency was hard. Everyone became a photographer in the 80s with motorized af point and shoots BUT like today few could get paid to take photos. There was a boom with digital where many started making money with photography but now we are back to the days where being a pro equals to having connections with people and in case of wedding photographers having credibility. We are just back to how it once was for a very long time thats all.
@@camcappe353 HELL, it was hard in the 2000's too. I had to submit my portfolio to Alamy three times.
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography I know right? I remember in 2006 I started uploading to isotck and alamy and I was like nah, too little money and so many people are doing it. I could say the same thing about today.
AI is the new Photography (and Adobe subscription!) :D
@@kasimasi6747 just canceled my sub
the phones are a big culprit for this, people dont know what they dont know , you do a shoot, 200 images, per say, then you go to work monday and show your co workers a few images, on your phone, and thats the problem, even though YOU know the difference, theres no WOW factor, because sub consciously , youre doing what they THINK, they can do.
I now print , then laminate, some images that id like to sell , in an 8x10 form factor , where you the client can HOLD , a potential purchase, I know, nothing new , but gotta start pulling away from displaying images on phone....
I'd love to see your stuff!
Make content for yourself!
Isn't Flickr still a thing for photographers who just want to see photos?
@@JPKloess Remember when it was the place, and then it wasn't... and now it seems to be back!
Sports Illustrated laid off all of their photographers. Newspapers are a joke. I agree. I just do it for myself.
Just have fun with it like I do
Sports Illustrated destroyed itself with all that "woke" garbage and people stopped reading it.
Also dude, great hook. I’m in. Subscribed ✅
@@TimDillardPhotography Thanks Multiple Timmy
I Blame the older generation for gate keeping the craft! If they actually invested in kids being interested in photography instead of giving kids the cold shoulder things might have been different. I’ve shot so many things almost none of the old timers took time to speak let alone give tips on how to grow in the game. Now there nothing left for me to pay forward because there’s nothing left but the grown up kids using Ai instead of a mentor to perfect their craft.
@@apeturephoto I'm in the mentoring space. I work with young people in my field to help them improve all the time. I wish photographers did the same
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotographyyou are appreciated because it really isn’t as common as it should be
I'm one of that older generation, working with a whole bunch of assistants over the last 38 years as a pro, I'd like to think I was able to pass on knowledge from the little I learnt in the commercial sector. I'm now back into 'real' photography : printing, collodion, gravure etc, and I'm soon to open up my studio and darkroom here in France as an Artist Retreat for folk who wish to pick my brain and try out these fabulous processes .. we'll see who turns up : )
There is work if you are good at advertising. And commercial work you have to make phone calls and sell yourself.
Photography is still fun when it’s not your job.
@@ucevrim great point. MUCH more fun
It's fun, even when it is your job. Having fun is doing something you love, well.
Wedding photography? Still a lot of that. I was making 50k a year as a car photographer. I don’t think it’s as dead as you think.
@grayhourproductions but it IS as dead as I think. Have you seen the price sheet of wedding photographers in the last three years? A precipitous drop. Stock photography for the major stock agencies like Alamy and Getty are paying so much less than ever. There are no real jobs a photography certificate or diploma will get you anymore, so photography is for yourself and any audience you can generate online.
What the heck?! Why is photography dead? I’m sorry but I’d have to disagree here. Last time I checked I am free to go out thoroughly enjoy the hobby of photography and even sometimes when I feel a shits good enough I will even print it myself and mount it and frame it as I see fit for myself and the enjoyment of my friends and family. Who cares about lines on social media. Get over it and go back to the roots. That’s just my opinion and you are entitled to your own. Good luck and I wish you well. If you would like to share images between us let me know and I would be happy to oblige. Thank you. 😎👍👊🇦🇺
I'll be sharing my images here and I hope you do too. I do believe that a career in Photography is, in fact, dead. So we'll have to agree to disagree.
Well shoot. Depressing news when I’m just trying to get into photography 😢. Liked the video because you hit the gen Z sweet spot of under 3 minute attention span. Even 50 yr old me likes videos under 3 mins. Short and concise and no 1 min intro. 😊
@@finite934 "hello and welcome to another video" is something you'll NEVER hear me say!
@@finite934 but yes, get into photography, it's an amazing pastime
I make 1830s-style calotype paper negatives and handmade salt prints, and I also do a lot of wet plate negatives and make platinum/palladium prints. Those forms of photography have been dead since the mid-19th century. Here is the good news. I still love making new work via these dead methods and expressing myself through my work, even if no one cares. So, yes, I agree, whatever form of photography you enjoy is about doing it because you enjoy it, and there is absolutely little to no chance anyone will make a real living doing it. But that is not a negative thing at all. In fact, it might even help photographers be real and enjoy the process versus having unrealistic expectations or ideas.
I tried to reply to your comment but unfortunately it seems I've been censored. There's always a first time I suppose.
Not dead just wack
@@ytSouljah very good way to describe it
Photography is my hobby for the last 25 years. Flickr is a great place to see other people’s good photos and just have fun!
@ManyDoors777 I am an old school Flickr user who kind of went away, to only see now that it's resurging.
I have a Flickr account and I really enjoy it.
It´s probably dead for ppl that want to make a living out of it. I use it for my jewelry production. I make a pair of earrings and I use my brand new R8 with an 85mm lens. I love taking pictures for myself, so long live photography even if ppl can´t make a living from it.
@@luisf.prieto9136 I would love to see your jewelry
Allright, fine it`s dead.
Well time to take some photo`s to get me on my feet.
Come on with it!
Make photography work yourself! The kids like film all the sudden, and i’m good at shooting it, not the best niche but i got a gig to shoot JUST film at a wedding and i’m psyched!
@@mynameisnotcory Lorrrrrrd, I couldn't IMAGINE shooting a film wedding again. It was so frightening to not know what you were going to get until the prints came back. Pleeeeeeease tell me you'll have a little pocketable digicam to shoot surreptitiously and make LOOK like film if it all goes tits up...
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography oh im gonna bring some digital gear too 😆
Yes, photography is dead, unfortunately. If every image you can imagine can be produced artificially, not only the meaning of images but also the general interest in images has died.
If the basic agreement of photography, the authenticity of light, the assumption that the reflected light from objects in the world has been projected onto a light-sensitive surface in order to fix its traces, no longer applies, then images only have illustrative or decorative significance.
Light is no longer needed.
This means that the photographic process as we knew it has been irretrievably destroyed.
We are only just experiencing the beginning of an era in which images and films will probably be produced almost exclusively artificially in the future, and these products will largely satisfy our needs for entertainment, aesthetic enjoyment and amazement.
Better than reality - that will soon be the case. But in the end, when everything is possible, nothing matters.
@Visual_Notes that's why images are for yourself. RUclips, and maybe flickr, are the best avenues to get your work seen by other photographers. I don't even know why that's important, but it gives some sort of validation!
Photography is not dead, the market has just changed. A lot has moved to video rather than stills. AI will destroy high end fashion and commercial photography, though, and eventually it will destroy any credibility the news media has left. But "straight/real" photography like documentary/editorial will remain and thrive. I've been at photography for about 40 years and am now making more money now than in previous years. This is mainly because I have located and followed the needs of my customers.
That last statement you made is so true. It's all about catering to the needs of your customer. If all they want video, they'll regret it later when 4k becomes obsolete and all their "High quality video" looks like garbage on computers in 20 years.
Photos taken on razors from 2009 looked great on razors from 2009... now with modern compression, those photos all look like crap.
Film photography in particular, but especially newer high megapixel sensors on digital cameras have the ability to produce high quality prints that will last forever. Hundreds of years from now, people could still see exactly what the photographer intended them to see.
Good luck trying to print a still from a video, let alone a video.
I also think it's hysterical when I go to someone's Instagram and see all their 4k videos look like they were filmed with a potatoe, or their photos are all taken with a 40 megapixel cell phone camera and they can't tell that a 100$ 12 medgapixel nikon d300 can take better photos than their 2000$ cell phone.
@@ReadIcculus93 Exactly! The image on a billboard that is 60 feet across is about 1.4 megapixels - the print rate is about 29 pixels per foot.
We are the last generation who can sit quietly and appreciate a photograph for a long while .... without feeling the need to grab a phone and multitask twenty conversations, check their likes or get easily distracted
@@crashryanphoto I'm sorry, what? I was reading a tweet. 😳😳😉😉😉
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography Hang on, I’ll get back to you after I post my bagel on Instagram
I have been a wedding photographer for more than ten years and this has been my only source of income for around ten years. I can make a living from it and I can also use the income to invest in new techniques, all this in a country in such a bad economic situation as the one where I live, and all this legally.
Photography is not dead, but photography as a source of livelihood is disappearing from more and more areas. Wedding photography is perhaps the last such field, and our wedding experience, which is greater than that of our customers, will keep us in this market for at least this decade. This is also mostly due to the fact that weddings are also changing, albeit slowly, and I am not talking about wedding trends here, but in the life of an engaged couple, the wedding itself is no longer as important and interpretable an event for them as it was a generation ago.
Susan Sontag's book wonderfully explored the journey of photography from its beginnings to its golden age. We would badly need a summary of the last two decades written in Sontag's perspective.
I love this response, thank you.
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography To be completely honest, if I were the same age now as when I thought I wanted to be a wedding photographer, it would be much easier for me to learn the photography technique, because the learning curve is now almost smoothed out, and it would be much more difficult from the financial point of view.
The customers' needs adapt to the standards provided by the latest technology the fastest, but this also means a much greater financial burden on the service provider's side.
20 years ago, at the dawn of the spread of digital photography, it was our generation that created the new needs, we pushed the boundaries based on which customers chose us. Now I simply don't see the space and opportunity for new market participants to show something that would make wedding photography fashionable again. But maybe I'm just too boomer :)
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography I think the fact that I keep getting booked for wedding photography for next year is to some extent also due to the fact that I have minimized my social media presence. One post a month on my fb page, I haven't updated my website in a long time, I'm sending my mywed page as a portfolio. I can't beat the algorithm so I just ignore it.
And this attracts the attention of couples because I am not part of the sea of wedding posts on social media, which is essentially just noise for them.
There are some rather passionate comments here.
On the surface I would agree with you but I also think it depends on how badly you want success. I was a "pro" photographer for about 15 years. Long story short, I learned that success depends as much if not more on your business and marketing skills as it does on your photography skills. I believe that to be true in every business type. If you are mediocre at your craft but strong at your business skills you will likely do well. In my case, I found that the market's demand for photography was being replaced with a demand for video and I adjusted accordingly. In any case, good luck to you with your channel.
@@simplesimon755 thank you for the good wishes and you are correct, marketing is the biggest part of photography anymore. I do art for myself, and I'm hoping that's what other photographers realize is the best avenue. Good luck to you
I'm not a photography guy, but what's the brand of the green shirt? Looks awesome, genuine question lol.
@@BlobBlobkins that is an Under Armour shirt. Very thin and light, nice collar and good structure. When I get home I'll look up the actual name in the label of the model
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography thanks! I'll check it out
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography I would be grateful if you could check, need it for the work :)
Your headline is click bait and you even say it, the career of photography is "dead" but there is plenty of sales. Heck, couldn't find a roll of portra for a while last year. And with everyone having a cellphone camera that takes "sharp, well exposed and recognizeable" images, if that is all a photographer could do, well why would anyone pay him. That started happening with digital in early 2000 as the folks that had no other skills dropped out. The general population wouldn't know a great image if it hit them over the head. Now we have to educate them and let them know the value of our work. And with digital, the industry was swamped with button pushers producing sharp well exposed recognizable crap. And with the economy in the toilet, folks have a hard time affording food and rent much less have disposable income for photography. Folks said the same thing when they guy made the browie box camera over 100 years ago. Now things are changing and as the Marines say, improvise, adapt, overcome. A 1999 business model is doomed.
@@mrca2004 clickbait?? On RUclips? Naaaah. But I agree with your other points.
The art in photography is not dead. Making money at it is a different question altogether. I have only ever taken pictures because I like taking pictures. Simple as. As to the Pentax 17, I have just bought a Minolta X300S, and a Pentax P30n, for less than fifty quid. The Pentax 17 is way overpriced.
Compleeeetely
As Zappa said about jazz, photography is not dead; it just smells funny.
So you never _quite_ made a living as a photographer, yet here you are telling us why making a living as a photographer is dead. Sure, if everyone follows your RUclipsr advice, I guess.
@@phiswe maybe I should have stated it as, I never made the living I wanted to in photography. I wasn't interested in working for diminishing wages for people that were terrible as clients, and I had a bunch of those. I've worked in front of the camera, I've worked behind the camera, I've worked behind the enlarger in the darkroom, I've done it all, I know the industry as well as you, and you're not telling the truth by saying that making a living as a photographer isn't a diminishing prospect.
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography It sounds to me like you weren't good at the business side of it if all you were seeing was its diminishment and having to deal with terrible clients. Because it _is_ a business like anything else and needs to be treated as such.
@phiswe ok, you know me so well... I appreciate your thoughts.
I know what you’re saying and I understand. Commercial photography isn’t what it used to be, but it’s not dead. I’ve been making it as professional for 19 years. I can’t say I’m wealthy and I expect my best years in earnings are behind me. That’s partly by circumstance and partly by choice. I’m 71 and have a stronger interest in shooting personal projects. But if you’re young, talented, have a strong work ethic and equal people skills, you can make it as a commercial photographer today. I wish you well in your You Tube enterprise. I just know you will do well. Perhaps this is the path that was always meant for you. Go get ‘em!
@tpf1952 Hey thanks for that great comment. You have seen so much change since the first camera was placed in your hands. It's a shame what's it's become, so I am happy to shoot for myself and the photographic community here on RUclips. Godspeed TPF! Stay in touch...
7.9 billion people on this planet.. its not dead
@@unyieldingflames4729 the business of it is.
I got excited about the Pentax 17 at first and I even pre-ordered it. After coming to your same conclusion - I can buy a much better used camera for much cheaper - I cancelled my order. Now I'm contemplating the upcoming Rollei 35AF - any thoughts on that camera?
Buy a vintage Rollei 35. The new one will be full of plastic parts, just like the Contax T2. I used to be a camera repair technician.
@@ianhand5006if no one buys the new ones then even the last remnants of photography will die .
Why make films if no one buys cameras , companies don’t care about ebay sales , no profit for them.
But honestly pentax made a big mistake with that halfframe only , should have done like my old konica autorex with a lever to choose half or full , even midroll.
Nobody's problem you killed your own passion. Time to stop whining and grab that camera! 💪📸 Don't be lazy
@@bamsemh1 absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Nobody's passion for photography is killed, maybe if you had paid attention to the video you wouldn't have made such a ridiculous comment
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography did you read your own title? 🤔 Photography is dead and RUclips is all I have left.
@@bamsemh1 ok
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography I don't understand you "photographers" whining so much lately. Grab that camera and go out and take photos! Find a new style, new lens or anything. You kids are your only problem 😉
2minutes, super video
Well thank you!
Sometimes I ask myself 'what's the point?'. So you go out, take a great shot of something that has been done thousands of times before by others. Nothing new here. The world surrounds us with images. For me, I suppose it's just enjoying the process, especially owning and collecting vintage stuff and creating some nice images that I'm pleased with. I kind of get what you're saying. I think it's far from dead but if we fast forwarded to this era in a time machine, I might report back and say "It's photography Marc, but not as we know it".
Wow, do I love this comment! You make so much sense in these comments
I tend to disagree on this point. I see many amazing photo galleries of amazing prints of people and places around the world. These are incredibly and professionally edited and high level of technical skill to print these large amazing prints. I see photography in galleries. I see incredible photography in high-end magazines from around the world. National Geographic, if you are so blessed and talented has amazing photographers and photos of people and places around the world. The fashion and highly-paid photo industry has amazing photos of people. Event photography of trade shows and conferences around the world is a very big industry. Industrial, astrophotography, architecture, crime scene, photojournalism, underwater, scientific, sports (huge area), aerial, meteorological, and of course let us not forget the age-old pornography industry is thriving with photography (yes you can make money here). The world will never cease with photographs as people love the recordings of everyday events.
I do photography for my self I do it for my moments
Weddings.
@@artmaltman hard pass. Been there, done that, never again. I don't know how you do it brother!
Nothing can replace a well captured image. That saying, "A picture is worth a thousand words" still holds true today.
The images of the shooting at the political rally prove Photography is NOT dead. The video captured on that day, failed to capture the action, the emotion and the moments that the still shooters in the Pit captured. A Pulitzer Prize ($15,000), will be awarded to one of them.
No doubt it's rare to be able to earn a living as a full time photographer which includes paying for health insurance, saving and investing for retirement, saving for kid's college education, buying a dream house, paying taxes etc.
@@TheNewMexicoMan well said NMM!
I completely concur with you, I started shooting photography, experimenting with nightime photography, and then went into videography using a camera like the BMPCC 4k and trying to always learn about composition, get the best shots, and I will easily say that photography does something that motion camera cannot do, and that is capture a moment in time, and therefore illuminate that moment with something special. There is a stillness within action, and an action within a still moment. The feel of taking a photo definitely does something to me that a film camera cannot do in my view. Photography comes closer to painting in that regard, and with less equipment. So for me I'm always attempting to emulate photography and painting with video, even though it will never get there, but sometimes if the gods of the canvas have pity, fingers crossed, I might get a still video moment that is beautiful. To me the story lies in the picture produced in photography. That's where it's at.
@@kmal16 so well said! Thank you!
@@kmal16 Love this. I couldn't have said it better myself.
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography Thank you so much, what a great video topic which had me thinking about this for several days.
Ive found that if the subject needs to feel comfortable, its a womans job. Otherwise it’s a gamble.
Bingo! Exclusively been making my living for 24 years with a camera... some good years, however the writing has been on the wall for the last decade. If "it" can become a one and zero, it will become devalued. Ironic how some suggest we don't live in a black / white or binary world, when in fact that is exactly what we live in.
I saw the title and thought photography is not dead but watching your video I have to agree with you. Photography like the music industry has changed massively in the last 30 years and to be totally honest digital photography is the cause. It has had the side effect of devaluing someone’s work. But I also got to say there is an awful lot of bad photography out there that people are pushing as good. So many camera and lens reviews and the photos that try to sell those thing is so poor it’s unbelievable.
Aaaaaand I work in the music industry too. So maybe it's ME?
Every person on earth can use the camera on their phone - just about. So social media is flooded with great images, many of which are sheer dumb luck shots. A great photo is much more than iso noise, sharpness, and the rule of thirds. So the opportunity for photographers with a good camera and lens is much reduced as a result. It’s not dead, but it is demanding. You have to find the niche, the technique, the art, and the marketing. I just do it as a hobby
Comments section is bloated with all kinds of replies saying he's lying. Well, he means for the most of the population, not for all of the population, that Photography is dead, & we see it everywhere. 20-30 yrs back, I used to handle those classic films & -ves, now all we have is our $150 Samsung A10 or $1500 Galaxy fold, & teenas busy taking selfies on top of a hill before falling off the cliff & their photo taken by someone else for the anniversary !
So why is photography dead on Instagram, which I agree, but not dead on RUclips?
@PhilippeOrlando hey there thanks for reaching out. I believe that the ability to insert your own personality into these videos while showing your photos will attract an audience more so than just individual photos that Instagram is restricting viewership on. Building an audience on youtube, while I'm sure very difficult, seems to be easier than on Instagram.
Its over,
Photography is dead, is no more!. It has ceased to be! 'Its expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'Its a stuffed its Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace
@@theuktoday4233 nice eulogy!
It's just resting after a long squark
Image making has always been about the medium on which it was seen. It used to be the printed page or sheet, now its the screen or electronic billboard. For domestic consumption and record, the print is probably the most archival medium in an age of fleeting formats and storage platforms.
Is it due to smartphones?
@GungKrisna12 When there are a billion pictures snapped every day and the camera phone technology gets better every day, it's inevitable that stand alone cameras are becoming obsolete...
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography and then, extinct?
@@GungKrisna12 not with the collection of them the I have! As long as batteries continue to charge, there will always be cameras!
Straightforward, nice. good luck .
@@tanjamanglory thank you
Don’t think I’ve ever been so early following a channel (subscriber #491). Can’t wait to see what you do with your channel! ❤
@null0byte I just started, and I really appreciated the follow!
No, there's no such thing as RUclips photography. All you'll be doing is preaching to other photographers, but if you want to reach young people and non-photographers then the only game left in town is TikTok (which sucks). I've struggled with Instagram (it's dead because it wants to be TikTok) but actually managed to build a Facebook following of 2,000 in just over a year. Granted, they are all Boomers who just like to see their local area, nothing artistic. Anyway, you earned a new subscriber :)
@@PixPete I love TikTok. I'll have to see how to highlight photography on there. I'm #marchasabigmouth over there.
I love your outro, very funny 👍
@@armandoladegas3964 Thanks Armando, I don't want anyone to take me too seriously!
@@armandoladegas3964 not a fan of Bruce Gilden
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography Same here, I find most of his work tasteless and exploitative, yet, I may be lacking some context, who knows.
@@armandoladegas3964 not lacking ANY context. It's cheap, it's not art, and the worst part is that he thinks he's entitled to do that.
Great video. For my experience as well, even the only ones paying good money for a photography job, at weddings, are not paying anymore. They are trying to pay less and less.
As a practical real example, I’m using around 20k in photography material, I’m in a website for weddings where I have to pay 3k a year to be in the top choices, and for a full month and 30 messages of couples later I’ve landed 1 job. And all I ask is 500€
So I’m not sure but many people are relying on their phones or on the cousins “professional” camera.
The camera industry this days survives because they sell the experience for people to take photos. That’s the idea behind it. It’s not to do jobs anymore.
Subscribed your channel great content
@@eliseuslb Uriel, I did not realize that wedding fees had fallen so precipitously. What a nightmare. I don't know how one could even make a living. Thank you for subscribing!
Solid message and totally agree, I am dabbling on the platform myself! I very much look forward to following along with you! Cheers
@@NeilArthurs Welcome Neil. Reach out anytime. Marc.AnthonyStreetPhotography@gmail.com
I think it depends where you live too. Here in NZ the entire population is only about 5 million. Imagine how little paid photography work there is to go around…!
@marcusnz232 the smaller the pool, the poorer the lifeguard
I do corporate events and make over 6 figures….currently booked out till 2025. This dude is dead wrong.
@@1208aa how am I dead wrong when you are the exception to the rule? Don't be selfish just because you're doing well. GENERALLY... the business is dead. But I'm so happy you are doing well, just have some perspective.
Nice to meet you so nice to see a veteran of the photography world doing the RUclips channel but yeah I started like 6 years ago on photography and now I'm shooting with a cannon 6 and a Rico RG3 so yeah I'm looking at some of my style and I really like it hope I can see some more black & white white style work from your channel good luck🤗🤗🤗
@@Revi200x Wow, thank you. I love black and white and will be doing all kinds of photography on this channel. I SOOOO appreciate the follow!
i've been saying that the last 10 years...
@@visualkeysk7392 I heard ya!
Well said my Brother. I love videography and photography and never made money doing it. I couldn't imagine charging anyone for a wedding or event when there are so many people taking pics and video with their phones.
@@FilmProductionUSA the photography business, especially wedding, has contracted so much. Add BRIDEZILLAS to the mix and it's a nightmare scenario!
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography LOL so true!!!
Absolutely agree man. Instagram is utterly crap now, impossible to get any traction. That's why I've set up my youtube channel recently too 👊👍
Thanks Kenjo! 😉
The industry is but the community ain’t.
I completely agree with that statement. That's why I am getting more involved with the community and distancing myself from the industry. Thank you for your comment!
I love photography,, I do it for myself and no one else, I don't await anyone's approval or opinion, don't get me wrong the people on RUclips do a fantastic job on making videos about photography,,hats off to them keep them coming, in my opinion photography is what you have captured in the moment,how it made you feel in that moment and savored, It will never be dead to anyone who is and has a passion for it.
@@dingo3718 I totally agree. The BUSINESS of photography is virtually dead.
Huge corporate photography may be dead but speak for yourself some are thriving learn to be more creative.
@lemnisgate8809 wow, thanks.
Even the Cara app, which is supposed to be supportive of photography and actually allows for high-resolution image uploads, is really dead to photography.
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It's sad
I highly disagree. I have clients and friends that make a tons of $$$ shooting for a living. More work than they can handle.
That's wonderful!
Agreed. I switched to video for nature, as the equipment advanced in such away (out of still cameras) that you can construct a video with a boat load of experience, but not requiring $20,000 worth of equipment. The still picture market also has never been worse. I am a artist, who also painted illustrations and fine art. The only thing that exists now is fine painting, and the only reason that exists is because of a single aspect: You create one thing. It has value. It exists as the only thing that has value, and all the rest of the copies do not.
Photography is not dead however. The commercial market is over saturated with people who feel they are great photographers when they are not, and people whose do not appreciate or need a level of photography that a good photographer can provide. Yet it will survive as a hobby for many. Pro photographers?
It is a snapshot world now.
@@naturalismundi4359 well said
Photography is the art of the 19th century. I also do fine art, that has been virtually destroyed by the rotten morals of modern art theorists, who now do their utmost best to also destroy photography, even though they have nothing to replace it with than Philips lamps. I enjoy using vintage cameras and films up to 8 X 10", I experimented with alternative processes. People who use a phone to take snapshots are amazed when they happen to see the cameras I use, some ask whether they can take a picture of it. I don't partake in contests, whether it's painting or photography, I don't think contests is not what life is all about. Success with your creative endeavours.
The only time I ever 'sold' photographs (actually I just gave permission to use them, for free) was when an Indonesian tv program asked me if they could use a handfull of portraits from my trip in rural Indonesia around 2004 that they found on my Pbase account. Honoured as I was i said yes. Only later I found out that the portraits were used for a new intro from a very popular daily tv program (Fokus) that was broadcasting nationwide. I was even more honoured then, knowing that my portraits were seen daily by many millions of tv viewers. Up till today I really wonder how the people I photographed reacted when they suddenly saw their own portrait on tv.😲😄
@@Vince1648 which you should have received a major fee for...
@@MarcAnthonyStreetPhotography I probably should have, but I didn't need the money and never aspired to be a pro. On the other hand the people I photographed could have used it. I never took their names/adresses though.
I work fulltime as a real estate photographer shooting photos and video. We have an editing team that constantly thrashes the editing. Too light and flat when the original has ambient light, contrast and shadow. When I said something, I was told "we editing the images to look as if they were taken with a flash. 😮 wtf. Feeling very discouraged but at least getting paid.
@@petroleroux2515 I'm glad you're still making a living in photography! Much luck
I dare say it’s a “new channel”. But the creator just exudes experience and I’d like to learn more.
@@tinymocot I have a tear in my eye over this comment. Thank you so much.
Pinterest can be included on your short list. It is predominantly visual. And interior decorating is still hot.
Had not thought of that!
Yeah it's dead, that's why Ilford tooled up to introduce their new Kentmere film stock.
@@zorkonthegreat5879 not sure what you mean?
I just spent an hour in a photo gallery. All prints from alternative processes. One photo was printed on a translucent paper that has been backed in gold leaf. It was amazing.
@@503mcbee I'd love to see that!
one thing no one wants to admit is that big technological changes in the world of photography usually eliminates the bottom feeders.
@kenh.5903 but there are no bottom feeders in photography. You're either a working photographer or you're not.