Cricket - some less common modes of dismissal
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Some unusual modes of dismissal.
Handled the ball - Graham Gooch
Hit wicket - Ian Botham (failed to get his leg over)
Hit wicket - Inzamam
Mankad - Kapil Dev/Kepler Wessels
Footage:
BBC
C9 Aus
Channel 5
Cheers for keeping that Blowers and Fraser commentary in mate, absolutely fantastic!
That Aggers/Johnson commentary never, ever gets old.
mankad is a legend and smart thinking, the crease is there for a reason!!!! He was within the rules and justly deserved of the dismisalls.
I was actually at the mankad match in Port Elizabeth. The funniest part is that Kepler drove the very next ball for 2. As he turned for the 2nd, he gave Kapil Dev a whack on the ankle!
I never watched a replay of the match on TV but from the stands, I don't remember (maybe I just didn't notice) Kirsten getting a warning. The gentleman's rule is that the bowler gives the batsman 1 warning before running him out. After the warning, if he continues to back up out of his crease, he's fair game.
dont be confused with the image at 2:43 that is wessels, but he is not walking back to the pavilion, he is just walking around in circles in disgust or what ever. it is kirsten that got mankaded, on the non strikers end, and given out.
You're right, but that's a relatively recent alteration to the Laws - back when the incident in this video happened you were allowed to run out the non-striker, even if you were into your delivery stride.
good point, we were always taught to backup but dont do it until the bowler has released the ball
Basically, you can hit it with anything - except your hand. Although, if you hit it again to gain an advantage such as trying to score runs, or prevent a fielder from catching it, you can also be given out for hitting the ball twice or obstructing the field. Confused? Don't blame me, the English invented the game :D
If you look at the replay of the mankad, he was in his crease until the time of the ball hitting the stumps. So Kapil dev decided before hand he would hit the stumps, it had nothing to to with the batter and the crease.
@dyson85 Fair enough mate, but apparently he had been warned a few times before. And still decided to sneak yards every time Kapil Dev (and others) bowled. Wessels kind of took the piss. You just see the last scene, not the build up of previous 6 or 7 times.
remember watching that live. Kapil was well within his rights- its clear from the video he warned the batsman three times. The SAFs were not taking him seriously or possibly playing mind games to piss him off....If that was the case they pissed him off alright LOL- Never seen him sooo angry!
Interesting, thanks.
I saw the Graham Gooch one in real life. The Australians took a while to realise it was out and then they all started laughing.
Are you serious? Let me explain...
Kepler Wessels is the guy on strike (left-hander, no moustache).
Peter Kirsten is the guy at the non-stiker's end (with a moustache) who got mankaded.
Kirsten is given out and watches the next ball from the pavilion.
Wessels (after a lot of angry words and pointed fingers) remains on strike and hits the next ball though the covers for 2.
Kapil NEVER warned Kirsten. He went on about Kirsie idling plenty of times, but never game him the proper warning that a GENTLEMAN would do.
Dennis Lillee got a guy out that way once.
Personally i don't see it as unsportsmanlike. As long as the bowler does it when he is in his stride to bowl the ball, he isn't stopping an starting and therefore i can't see a problem with it.
Backing up is also a perfectly legitimate thing to do. If your unlucky enough to get caught you just have to take it.
If you got rid of this rule, whats to stop the batsman backing up the full length of the wicket before the balls even bowled?
its legal to hit the ball again providing you dont use your bat or you hand up to your elbow
I really don't know why Mankad is such a sacred cow, why is it okay for the batsman to back up half way down the pitch, but it is 'cheating' if the bowler tries to stop him? While I believe in warning the batsman once, after that if they refuse to change, Mankad seems perfectly fair to me.
@DAJAZDJ1 Think it was only a couple of years ago, the non-striking batsman can back up as far as he likes now.
I got loads of wickets like that at school (mankaded), good days. Shame they scrapped that law :(
i agree my mistake was a bit high mate, english is for communication not an qualification. oh player detail is petty? then A 2 3 is trivial. your opinion mate i just tried to tell u what the scenario was, to u he was wrong to me he is right as simple as that. cheers good luck mate :-)
You can no longer be out the last way
for any other rule i agree with what u say but the flaw in ur argument is highlighted in this eg. trevor chappell underarm- in theory it was a rule but was never used in practice and the incident involving it was quite degrading to the integrity of the game and mankad is the same it is a rule in theory but but not put into practice, cricket is a game for civilised people and should be played in competitive but civilised and sportsman-like manner
didn't they change the 'mankad' rule so that once the bowler is into his bowling stride that this action cant take place? I think that's fair enough
I believe that it is a good thing that they stopped mankadding because it slows down the game allot. its a good rule but it wastes so much time.
i wouldn't have given Kirsten out (i know im gonna get an angry response so don't hold back when you do) as an amateur umpire my interpretation of the rules indicate that if you are in your final stride you cannot run anyone out., So in my view if Dev had've done it half a second earlier as he wouldn't have been in his final stride i would've had no choice but to give him out
For all the comments whether Mankadding is right or wrong, this from Kapil Dev was a low blow on 3 counts. A) Wessels was BARELY out of his crease, B) Dev was well into his delivery stride by the time the bat left the crease, if he hadn't have aborted the delivery, the time difference between ball release and bat leaving its ground would have been miniscule and C) when Dev first looked down the bat was still well in the crease. Poor show, no one will convince me otherwise, 3 warnings or not.
I'm wondering the same thing...
That's what i thought
Just a curious question about the first dismissal, to anyone who knows: if Graham had hit the ball with his bat again, rather than his hand, would that be legal? Are you allowed to hit it twice like that to save yourself, or would that be out as well?
late as hell,but yes, that's legal ONLY if it is to rpevent the ball hitting the stumps. However, if you hit it for a second time to prevent the wicket keeper/fielder catching it, then you're out
His name is Kapil Dev. Its easy to think the bowler was being a poor sportsman but perhaps if you knew that Dev warned the batsman 3 times before dismissing him you might see things differently. The reason he was angry was because the batsman repeatedly ignored a gesture of good sportsmanship. Things aren't always as they until and its important people understand the whole picture. It was an ugly incident for cricket!
would that not be a double hit?
could have kicked it legally i believe.
kapil dev looks scary when angry!
get ur facts right mate A) its peter kirsten not wessels 2) u just saw few sonds of the video he was warned thrice look back to the days of 1992 as to how cricket was played 3) if its poor show then what about wessels he intentionaly hit dev with his bat on his shin later. cheers
Mr. Kapil Dev...or Mr. Kapil DEVIL?? im confused :s
what a load of shit.
he was the guy who got runout.
then how could he possibly play the next ball...?!