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Jordan Peterson: Women & society expect men to conform
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The reason people go crazy is not because of lacking constant approval of individuals.
The reason people go crazy is because they think that they have to control and manage everything and every expectation in the first place.
Just let some stuff go and stop playing games you really don't have any interest in, regardless if people frown on you for doing so.
It doesn't feel good when people disapprove sometimes, but it feels a lot worse to feel beat down and enslaved when you cave in to expectations.
this is a synopsis of what i had to figure out in my early 20s but didn’t really get til my late 20s. entirely on point
@@jeremylawson6648 I’m 24 and currently going through this. I don’t know who I am anymore.
I had a girl who expected me to give up everything for her. I said no. I notice many guys do though.
When you're in a large group and there are guys openly heavily praising women for doing next to nothing it fucking disgusts me.
I’ve had dozens of men expect me to go out with them for a date just because they were a man and wanted me. I said no. Politely.. And a lot of them still pursued some of them got downright nasty and one even physically assaulted me. Girl want you to pay for her car payment and you say no the worst that’s going to happen is she may be pissed off and not sleep with you. It’s not really a loss because you just got rid of a woman that you probably shouldn’t have around anyway. Woman says no to a man she often risks her life and reputation. (That’s another thing man will do when you reject them... tell all their friends that you didn’t..and make up stories about sexual things you did).
@@joygernautm6641 Bullshit! The things guys risks for saying no are social isolation via gossip and rumors, losing his job or position, gay shaming etc. and the things you mentioned above that supposedly happen only to women
@@joygernautm6641 Forgot to mention rape accusations, which translate into jail time and a ruined career and reputation for life.. happened to a rockstar a few years ago after he dared say no to sleeping with her
light ghost Did you know that most women who are raped never report at all? Did you know that of the very small percentage that actually go to trial the conviction rate is extremely low? For every man who goes to jail for rape there are probably 100 women who are actually raped. False accusations are a big part of this because there is so much doubt about it because there are women who do that, but it’s actually not a big percentage. The number of women who are raped far exceeds the number of women who falsely report. Just because some women are assholes who did that doesn’t negate the fact that there are so many women who actually are raped.
"Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try it again. The fall breaks them." Lord Baelish
Game of thrones fell in season 8 so they never get to try again.
Clickbait at its finest. The content of the video is good though, Jordan Peterson is the man
"The point is.." *sips* "..things are chaotic."
He uses CHAOS a lot! Even in his book title !
So then...
@Inebriatd Chaos Nature brings ???
Over dramatizing
All things considered ! We should all increase in Acts of Goodness with kindness
I like the saying 'the ego feeds on complexity'. People make things complicated. Nothing in itself is. Everything outside our confort zone we might say is very complex, but that's just judging it even before you take a good look at it.
ego makes simple things complicated by simple people. look at sjw's only trivial non issues made into bigger things so they can feel big
Nothing is complicated? That's your own boss latching on on to and ignoring certain truths. The human body is incredibly complicated. A computer is as well. It's all about the level of analysis we choose to observe from.
Its no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society
That's exactly what Peterson wants us to do. GET BACK IN THE GAME! I say no thanks. I do have other options. DROP OUT OF SOCIETY.
@@markflierl1624 Mark, just how does one DROP OUT OF SOCIETY? Does one become a hermit? Does one run off and live in a cave, with no running water and only bugs and lizards to eat? Have you ever tried that, Mark?
@@bruceparks3124 Use your head! Maybe you can reduce your consumption and work part time. I left my corporate job to work construction. I only work 6 months a year. It's not that hard to do if your single.
@@bruceparks3124 Have uou...?
I have.
But, I wanna see what u say...
Youre all soft. Soft as the sky is blue
Did I miss something? Where in the video did he say that women and society expect men to conform...?
What am I missing? The title says this is about women expecting men to conform but I didn't hear anything about that in the video.
You are missing how clickbaits work
this man is a modern socrates
plato was a pretentious wanker
socrates
+Savage Jesus . lol idrgaf.
You should read more.
Not sure that Socrates was much of a religious myth preacher under the guise of psychology professor.
This is so timely! I was just thinking a lot about this very subject.
Im sick of human interaction being so much about keeping eachother in place---cut the bullshit and enjoooooooooooooooy
I believe you are spot on with your assessment Jordan. The pressure to conform is coming from every aspect of life. So, what is the outcome? Men reject all commitment to both woman and society - something that has been growing for many years. As a result the anger in men is coming out and this is breaking society. The abilities of men are valued and needed and if they stop committing then everyone losses; including women and society!! The sexual drive does not supersede the drive to live.
Thousand times agree with your last sentence🙌
@@guymoon7474 Yea that last sentence is deep
This is a free market. If men are failing at the expectations set upon them it is their fault for not being good enough to meet the expectation, hence why they should remove themselves from society. It's an ego shot but nessesary to think of this in a darwinian sense. Those that are complaining about not living up to the standard set are being weaned out of the system, separating genetic wheat from chaff. If only we could let people euthanize and bow out with grace rather than force them to live lives they aren't made for, of course they would build resentment.
@@Godfailedyoustophumpinghisleg - We don’t have a free market! Darwin’s theories are highly controversial! The system is broken and our leaders are promoting greed and chaos.
Having an awareness about the societal direction is far different from complaining. It’s an acknowledgement of fact. If someone told you that you were a slave and should conform to that reality then you would be a fool to accept that reality.
This problem isn’t genetic it’s societal (environmental) and that’s what Jordan was explaining. The system is broken!
Your belief that the problem is Darwinian and genetic is incorrect. It’s predominantly societal and environmental - Jordan has repeatedly spoken about these issues.
Mass euthanizing as a way to solve societal issues is really sick. That kind of thinking won’t fix the problems being faced - it will increase the chaos that Jordan was speaking about.
Disconnecting from the commitment to a broken system is the first step towards correcting or replacing a broken system. Men are doing this in droves - and I’m talking about highly effective successful men.
Look at what's happening to Russian leader Vladamir Putin! That guy has been conforming to toxic masculinity norms since day one!
When guys conform to women and society we loose respect from both. My gf always tries to get me to conform to her wishes in which I refuse. I explained to her today just on this fact. I am what I am I will mitigate your issues you can't handle , you can help me with my issues in which their are less .
Learn to spell please. Lose vs. Loose. If you expect people to read your comments, please make them readable.
"My gf always tries to get me to conform to her wishes in which I refuse."
That's a good thing, actually. Once you conform, you'll become boring, and she might leave you for someone who actually puts up a 'fight'.
@@mediaguyberlin , thats all you can come up with? Why not engage the matter being disgussed?
@@halofreak1990 , women tend to use men that are competent for a status upgrade. When this idiot goes out for dinner, treated like a king by the girls and they stand and chat with this guy. They say weird things to garner attention, name, age, favorite good, intriging, interesting and so on. Makes girls uneasy that this guy dates but they love girls half the age gravitate to her guy.
You shoudnt even explain anything to the little lady.
Just say no, and to shut the hell up especially if the game, fight, or your watching a movie your into is on.
Two things will happen she will either get mad and hysterical at which point you simply tell her look you have to leave and Ill see you later.
Or she might get turned on and jump your bones.
The fact that you still entertain her stupid requests still gives her hope.
Give her none.
"Social" is the most obscene word I know.
What about offended?
That's quite the nose you have there man 👃
This comment has aged well with "social distancing"...
Damn dude, 20 mins one on one time? I spend 2-3 hours minimum one on one with my son. How lazy are parents these days?
It seems they are raising future sociopaths. Your parents are your first human relationship, if that’s messed up good luck with the rest of your social life!
Nkemjo true. Sad. But true
Maybe he’s trying to set an example, and a future, for his son through whatever line of work he’s in. And it probably cost him a lot of time because this example is grander and meaningful. Hypothetically, when his son grows older, he’ll understand why daddy was only able to spend 20 minutes with him. And even thank him for it.
So who are you to judge? 🤨
You could be with your son 2-3 hours but you may not really be present. I had to accept that as I used to think that as well.
Hah. The only time I could get even 5 minutes with my dad was when he was hitting me. 20 minutes of positive attention would have completely changed who I was. With 2-3 hours, who knows how much more stable I would be. I may have slain my dragons in a third of the time and had some success in my 20s.
Amen Jordan. If you choose to be an oddball, be systematic, disciplined, and methodical about it. Being an individual takes hard work and constant practice.
I know too well of drifting badly from isolation. I fight off that feeling and routine almost weekly
He needs to take a bigger roll in Canadian society, We need MUCH more Jordan Peterson.
"who you're going to eat... with"
Society also expects women to conform, not just men. Everyone.
Sheilasydney Notyerbizniz. Peterson is a woman hater.
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Boundaries = foundations. Without them we crumble
_2:13__ it's unbelievable the degree to which our sanity depends on a functioning sociological structure_
Erich Fromm's book, "The Sane Society" has a lot to say about that....
Love this guy but this routine thing I don't know......Some of the craziest people I know have an iron routine. And I know people that take each day as it comes and they're great people.
I’m *not* doing it.
Same. Except my part time job at Pizza Hut.. got bills yo
Don Chello Everybody has to work at one point or another but that’s not what he’s talking about.
Lil Nike Air Pump um yea he is. He just didn’t articulate it. You have to listen better
Don Chello Well I don’t have a problem with working and paying bills, it’s just a part of life that must be dealt with, how else do you expect to get by? That’s not what I got out of this, I was thinking more along the lines of modern culture and the feminist ideologies that are being forced on men and boys today, I won’t be conforming to any of that.
Lil Nike Air Pump Jordan talks in ways that are open to multiple interpretations, but I agree that those things are being forced on males and I don’t want to conform to that eaither
Never conform.. walk in as you are, have some fun, drive the women crazy and leave the men jealous and shaking in their boots, and you either end up married with the girl, or walk away leaving the place in flames. That’s how you conduct a relationship and maintain your dignity, self-respect, and sanity.
Conform, conform, live the same life everyone else is living. Pretend to like the same things they do else they will punish you. Obey the rules developed by the average mind which please the average mind, regardless of whether they're arbitrary or just don't fit you.
What if it's difficult to find meaning in the average person's behavior. Consumerism, hedonism, repetitiveness, lack of interest in learning and new things but plenty of interest in trivial things, truth coming secondary to protecting egos, lack of vision for a better future.
Hogwarts had a sorting hat. I wonder if it might not be better if society had something similar. Group people by their nature and let them live more or less separately from each other, rather than the most common and loudest personality types imposing a tyranny on the others. At least the rules each group would develop would better suit them.
3 points for Gryffindor
Wow, it's almost as if Peterson has been reading the Austrian Economists. He's recapitulated the Economic Calculation Problem here. Nice. He should revisit his arguments against socialism and apply the complexity lesson to his understanding of why socialism doesn't work. The stock market experiences bubbles and business cycles not "because chaos" but precisely because we allow certain entities like the central banks and law-making bodies the supposed authority to try to control the economy "all by themselves," and the consequences are periodically disastrous to lots of individual human beings.
deepfriedsammich so it isn't becuase they try and use socialist fixes for capitalist problems? Like bailouts for example? Which in my opinion just keeps kicking the can down the road letting the problem reach a point it becomes a crisis.
Are the problems "capitalist problems?" Capitalism does not imply allowing a politically monopolized organization to control the means of exchange, for starters. If anything, what we see in our banged-up economy are socialist "fixes" chasing socialist problems. The root of the problems is that socialism is grounded in a superstition about the nature of value. It rests upon the unspoken idea that value is collective, intrinsic to things, and objective. None of these things are true. The market rests upon the idea that value is individual, subjective and imputed, and context-dependent. It isn't possible to rationally dictate value and expect an economy to work, because the attempt to dictate value destroys the source of the pricing information and negotiation of production and consumption, leaving both to chaos.
I only wish in my lifetime I could talk to him in person
Essential Truth- Once again, you have titled a Jordan Peterson video incorrectly in order to push your own biased agenda. At no point in this video does he specify gender. He uses the words "group", "society" "people" "social convention" and "the Patriarchal Structure" to describe the conforming forces of society, which can be understood to include both men and women. At one point in this lecture, he gives the example of the dynamics between a son and a father as the father tries to get his child to go to bed, but does not say anything about a wife or women at all. Do you really think your viewers don't notice the difference between your titles and the actual content? It only looks bad on you, not anyone else.
Tina Banda totally agree with You. I expected something else. Thou the story of the father struggling with his son was my case but I actually enjoy the process.
Tina Banda Show me a man who takes by force what he wants from women and I'll show you 10 women who vote to take by force what they want from men. Show me a grave created by patriarchy and Ill show you an entire graveyard created by feminism/communism.
"Any society that negates the role of the father in the voluntarily marriage contract from decent civilization buliding men and replaces it with a involuntary centralized welfare state will not remain civilized for long."
Unity&Diversity
I’m not sure I understand your point. Please expound on your thoughts and state your premise as clear as possible for me. Thank you
I think it's specifically to get MGTOW and the types of men leaning in that direction to click, and hear that their difficulty with women isn't their fault.
it's ok Tina, you can relax
..... hahahahahaha
you are right tho, yet I don't think most really care....
I just realized that l spend 80 % of my day watching Jordan Peterson videos.lol
Great explanation. There is personal "sacrifice" by a man to "fit in" his society that governs itself based on concensus. That "fitting-in" creates persona, and the "sacrifices" become his shadow cumulatively. Those are the "only" three archetypes that exist. Incidentally, a man's self gets polarized in to two parts as long as he lives in a culture (just like a fluid made with ionic bonds when subjected to external electric field). When surrounded by different cultures and grouping, a man needs multiple personae- and that casts multiple shadows.
What I've learned : Whenever I see a JP video on YT, I look to make sure it isn't uploaded by Essential Truth, because the titles are always wrong. This one slipped by me. Damn it!
When was the video about men? That was one really mistitled video. Anyway, good insight as always from JBP.
What he doesn't mention is that this works even if you do a half-ass job. If you have a routine, but it only lasts about half the day, you'll be healthier and happier than if you have no routine at all.
He never specifically mentioned women’s expectations of men at all, or mentioned any gender distinction of expectation. Deceitful Click bait rubbish.
It drives me crazy!! I mean JPs material is good enough to stand in its own and has no need for misleading titles for you learn something
Thanks for 7 minutes back
The social and societal expectations and conventions ARE the expectations of women at large. There's no distinction. Civilization, culture, society... all by women and for women to keep men in line. It's been that way from the dawn of time.
agreed
Click bait rubbish ? Not really. If you pay attention, you can learn something valuable from an idiot. Was off the theme, but still good stuff.
The problem is many people (especially in a work environment )want you to have the same priorities as them or have the same moral values as them and this results in hateful society mostly based on competition.
Employers are looking for superman but even superman wouldnt get hired because hes not a cultural fit.
Yeah, my mother would fight with my sister every single morning for 30 minutes on what she was going to wear. 30 minutes, every morning, of every week day, for likely 8 years? And I even as a kid, I was 11 years old when this started, I remember thinking this going to have consequences later in life. I just instinctively knew this was very bad, and without getting into details, it had long lasting and devastating consequences later in life. Do not do this. You need to be the parent. If you don't, you'll end up with monsters, instead of children.
Everyone’s expected to conform. That’s what society is. You give up your individuality (certain aspects of it) in exchange for protection. This isn’t a man specific or women specific problem.
J Thorsson one day you'll grow up
Daniel Jun true, and as a man I hate it
+J Thorsson
Do you wear clothes? Do you brush your teeth, take showers, shave, act polite or follow rules occasionally? if you do, your a conformist. Everyone in society conforms to some degree. When Peterson is speaking of conformity, is he speaking more on behavior, and not on your beliefs. There may be some pressure to conform your beliefs as well, but the society we live in is complex and free enough that it allows for a variety of beliefs, within reason of course.
"protection" and "security"
More like the perceived security and protection.
J Thorsson lol
It's really funny to think of all the people who came here to listen to Peterson talk about how women and society want men to conform and instead got to listen to him explain how discipline is really necessary, for 10 minutes. And even funnier is to read some of the comments and realize that some didn't even get that part :)))
I have said for YEARS that 90% of life is process 10% glory. You can NOT have the 10 without the 90.
This is amazing. I always thought am i an asshole for thinking I don’t want to be the norm? But at very least be a a great human being and to others. Gotta figure it out for self but lectures like at least help the thought process.
You are an arsehole ,so too am I ,an arsehole that won't settle for the expectations and agendas of hypocrites and conformist sheep and we lions don't consider the opinions of sheep So Go forth Good Sir tread your own path , Tally Ho!!!!
I realized that is the core message of the movie "Grounghog day".
I personally HATE Monotony and this is the reason I've had such a problem in my life thus far I don't want to get into a cycle of Monotony but you have to be sustainable so I guess sooner or later I'm going to have to exists instead of live and whats the point in that
Your description resonates with me...
I wish I can get this full lecture.
In my opinion; collectivism falls apart once you consider that obedience is not a virtue. Someone who loves order might contend that this is too disorderly; but even that can be mended via, say leadership.
I don't consider collectivism (in it's modern manifestation) to be either good or virtuous; though it's true that society is too intricately organised (and most people would be conformists anyway) to necessarily be refuted.
So true.
Based on the professor's opening statement, I should be a resentful as hell!
That's a very *They Live* sort of title, I love it. *Conform* *No Independent Thought* *Dont Question Authority* *Stay Asleep* =P
Damn right it's like that. If you don't conform, you're unreliable and unpredictable, people don't like that these days. Always shying away from any sort of spontaneity in life.
Johny40Se7en smh it’s so stupid people are annoying smh rule 1 fuck what they think
I think he's talking about particularly isolated people here, or people that are really on the fringe of things. People that are opposed to mainstream ways of living in society.
The points about routine, habits are important. They will produce wellbeing and sanity.
Stay Sane Everybody Good Luck
The description of this video seems to be misleading to the viewer. These points could be used for both men and women’s conformity in society.
This explains how some groups have such wingnut ideas. Since a number embrace odd values, those who associate with them are pressured to conform to those ideas until they surrender and join the insanity.
8:19 We outsource Sanity because it’s incredibly complex, like a price of billions of things; thus outsourcing the value of a person, or their sanity, becomes like a stock market because people are always sending signals to each other about behavior. All day you smile, don’t smile, ignore, interact in a particular manner to particular people as signals to that individual that they are acting in a manner that you are expressing to them.
The idea that sanity is dependent on group acceptance has flaws. What if one lives in an insane community? Many behaviors that would mark one as socially intolerable in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union, when looked at objectively would be considered sane and moral. Same can be said for cults. If one were living in Jonestown, would the most sane behavior be that which is the most socially acceptable in that context?
very good question you should sent it to JBP. But is there really such a thing as objective sanity and objective morality? It's hard to tell
A community that manages to stray from basic evolutionary functions will become extinct or auto-correct itself. Socioeconomic factors are just by-products derived from the same precursory principles.
Kenny H I wouldn’t say Muslims per se. But, certainly there are some countries that are ruled by fundementalist Islam that fit the category. Saudi Arabia for example, I would call that an insane society. I would also call the US an insane society in many respects. Specifically our unending wars, vanity, celebrity worship and stuff. Is there any society that is actually sane? What it sanity?
Good point Shawn, like Jonestown obviously couldn’t survive evolutionarily. When societies become excessive they seem to be destroyed like Rome or if they make too many enemies as well.
Radical Muslims are the same as radical Christians. Normal people will be normal and social no matter their religion, fanatics are fanatics...no matter their religion/ideology. The irony is that most people that bash on Muslims in general are much more similar to radical Muslims that bash western society in general. I would't want to live in either a radical christian community NOR a radical Muslim community.
It is exactly the routine that drives me crazy.
Forget it. No matter what happends I won't be happy with it.
I Clicked because of the thumbnail., didn’t even notice it was a jordan Peterson video., but Oh well I decided to stay.,
6:30 These are signs people with autism should pay close attention to. Look at the way people act and scrutinize the effects of those actions socially and on individuals.
Never ever conform just don't do it. That's a Beta move.
2:57
'you need to know who you' re going to eat
(with) '
A call for a modern balanced form of the collective in cooperation with the individual.
You've mistaken collectivism for community, as Karl Marx and his millions of followers have. Collectives do not respect the individual, they merely consume them just as a parasite consumes its host, killing both.
The problem with this channel and I have watched a number of JP lectures here, is that the title does not correlate to the topic JP is lecturing. Is it link bait or am I missing something ?!
I expect women to conform aswell, but to my dictates and I don't want them free from responsibility..
Routine, that's me.
3:50 "fighting with his kid to go to bed?" my parents were such raging alcoholics, that I was happy to go to bed. So the man should of become a raging alcoholic? Problem solved!
I think this applies to us as men
When The Balances Are Equal, scale matched with scale, than shall CHAOS return ! ( Aleister Crowley )
Genius. Absolutely genius.
absolutely
Neil Bassett You need to get out more.
Susan Nunes why the derogatory remark? I volunteer for a local organization and I’m active within a union. I have children and a family.
What do you do to get out Susan?
Neil don't be to hard on her,maybe she was never told or wasn't as fortunate as us but yes your right time to grow up.I was a Susan at one time and a Tom a Dick and a Harry also :)
"Society" being the institutions that are raised up as the pillars of social value and culture; women being submissive will already gravitate to those institutions as they believe it will maximize their social affirmation: men go and "subdue the earth" there by naturally compete with each other to live an independent life. Women want stability there by will only partner with men who reaffirm the existing social institutions (society). I've seen this ethic play out over and over. College women are hearing from the university feminism this feminism that, so they conform and the men that are banging them just say oh ya I'm all for feminism blah blah blah and the guys that don't conform don't get any action. Lol
Men that don't conform get more action, I think your personal bias or situation is blurring your vision. Women gravitate towards the men who you say get no action. They do it because those men are filled with life essence and masculine energy, and men gravitate towards women who are filled with life essence and feminine energy, although unaccomplished men mostly avoid and secretly adore realized women whereas women become groupies for realized men.
Mark Matsiko: I think you misunderstood what I'm saying...and "I'm not quite sure what my situation is or bias is." But the social institutions that constitutes "society" are built by men, those men get laid, the nonconformist guys don't get laid for they are as you put it unactualized or unrealized, however you put it. The board members of a fortune 100 company and the lawyers and so down the line are way more attractive to women than the nonconformist playing video games in moms basement, or out preaching religion etc etc. yes the 'beta' males at the bottom of society, conforming aren't attractive. But unless you go out and 'subdue the earth' and create something brand new, like tech companies in the last decade, which creates a lot of conformity, your just a nonconformist nobody socially disconnected there by have no value unless you conform to "society" and women expect this other wise...no action.
Mark Matsiko well said might be some truth to this
Louisforum1 your clarification makes more sense.
Not trying to say anything about your personal situation I just wasn't sure why you saw the world that way when it seemed like the opposite in reality.
I agree but I still think non conformists get more action. But to me a basement dweller isn't a non conformist, he simply isn't participating. A non conformist is someone who acts on his own terms rather than someone who avoids the social institutions.
Mark Matsiko true agreed some people just aren’t social idk why everyone cares so much it’s not like they are bothering the other person
*you need to know who you're going to eat* - Jordan Peterson
What he says might be true for many people and maybe even for most but he makes it sound like it's the universal truth for everyone.
Frank Yu , examine his words only, ignore your intuition.
He's a clinical psychologist. I think he would know if this was not true for everyone.
Tristan smith thats the worseee advice
worst* i also never said dont take it with a grain of salt, i would expect that to be a given,.
Liberty Updated d
It's always funny when I see the way the video relates to the title but those who don't just assume the poster is a liar and not that they may have just not seen it because it wasn't obvious.
Its no measure of sanity to be well adjusted to an insane world
Nice lecture but very misleading title by the person who uploaded and edited.
I respect you mr. Peterson but I dont necessarily think it would be chaos if social structure broke down and we aren't animals. Tom woods is a great man as well I agree with most of his ideas. Great video though I agreed with most of the video.
Listened to the entire clip, never once he mentions women wanting men to conform
I watched the entire video, and I noticed an extreme disconnect between its contents, and the title. What he was saying, was about people, not a particular subset of people as defined by your dangly parts or lack thereof. Marketing this video by making the very egotistical assumption that it is all about a particular subset, doing exactly what the conformists want to do, in of the fact that they are choosing to view this in terms of groups of arbitrarily assigned people, rather than allowing people to retain their individuality.
And there goes most of the respect I had for Jordan Peterson. Definitely needs to develop his right brain. I'm going to be weighing the pros of his occasional useful insight against his apparent inability to look at anything beyond reality-based facts and cold logic.
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This structure he says we need, is this a fairly modern thing due to our current living conditions? Or has it always been like this? Say, when people didn't know if they were going to get food on a regular schedule, sleeping when it was dark, but being woken up at different times, for different reasons? At first I was thinking that this was a modern thing, but now I'm thinking it's possible that it's always been this way, to some varying degree....? For instance, in the late 40's/early 50's; people may have slept better than they do now, due to harder physical work, and less blue light light devices(none really). But in caveman times(lol) food was not as easy as going to the store, and a hunt wasn't always successful. Also, shelter wasn't always guaranteed or in the same place and weather had a big influence sleep.
Be your own person. Cooperate when it’s right stand your ground when it’s not.
Let God judge you not men.
NEVER bend the knee!
As usual a good video but the title wasn't the exact same thing. Even if you properly named the video I would've still watched it.
Romans 12:2
hmmmmmmmm sounds strangely compelling
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I disagree with this part. being a 'nice' person, obeying rules all the time, not questioning and living to be accepted, is a waste of time, waste of character and certainly waste of your true potential. it feels weird to and immoral to do stupid things, but then whats the point of being fake at all times, just so you get respected from people who change their minds so quickly they forget who you are. be your self, don be afraid to fail, speak your opinion funny or stupid. the world will judge you anyway, talk behind your back and a lot of times in front of you, so be your self and mind your damn business
Jesus 20 minutes! A day! 20 minutes ever
Behave: CONFORM or be ostracized.
Your right man Californians stand out and reject social conformity I guess thats why people act out alot there
the title is not quite right
so many people sitting on the sofa with their hand out in expectiation...why would you conform, do your own thing.
I had a huge advantage growing up. As one of ten children with a strong mother and father i had a role model and never got into the modern fetishes. When someone becomes willful the answer was always the same--show me.
stopped it at the best part. why?
Usually 10 min videos end well...
Structure and society does not help me. Work and the struggles within it almost killed me. I am so much happier being a state welfare dependant.
For Jordan to speak of this is big. Think for your damn self for the good of the world.
Gotta love the public school system ... I was a Ritalin adhd kid who dreaded school because of the repetitive mind numbing experience it became. The resentment I had for it because there was nothing there that was useful to me besides Lunch and Gym or any part of the day where I could be with my friends other wise I was so painfully bored of it and felt like it was an absolute waste of time...
SoThey pumped me full of adderal and ritalin to stop me from staring at the clock and writing song lyrics on my English home work... An then I started to disassociate from my friends. I went from being bored and insubordinate to restless alone angry and pissed off. I lost friends and never understood why? but I knew I had to do good in school or else i'd never make it in "The Real World"...
However... An I don't know how it came about but I learned about a trade school that was available where you actually did stuff like working in automotive tech or culinary. This was my way out I wanted to learn about cooking and restaurant management so in 10th grade most of my school day was spent doing something I actually wanted to do and enjoyed doing. that was "in the real world".
An low an behold I got all the drug pushing teachers and my own parents off my back and I made new friends who shared some of what I wanted to do as opposed to this one size fits all stuff. I was working in hotels at 17 years old. 70% of my day was learning a trade and the other was back at school learning the status quo. I'm sharing this because if there was more teachers like Jordan Peterson in the world. Perhaps it might make school a bit more manageable for certain kids and maybe make you think twice about giving your kids Narcotics before they hit puberty
...I feel boys have it rough in the modern school system especially when there is this added incentive to get more women in the workplace
I mean
of course in the 90's early 2000's were taught that if you graduated highschool and your parents had enough money you were pretty much on your way to College where your given a broad life path that would get you into "The Real world" and you'd be set up for life... Now college seems like a an adult day care center an no wonder kids are angry and resentful quit lying to them about who or what they are as young women and men and more importantly quit drugging them before they have the age to consent "learning disorders" or otherwise.
Jeff Schwind. Schools today teach conformity and call it education. Conformity kills boys, conformity kills the male genius.
Jeff Schwind. Schools today teach conformity and call it education. Conformity kills boys, conformity kills the male genius.
Wanna know how people go insane? You punish them when they behave well. You punish them but you don't tell them why. It's even worse if you gaslight them and tell them the wrong reason why you punish them and punish them even more afterwards. The worst is when you punish them but tell them there is no punishment. That's how you make people go insane.
Well I have become resentful.
I won't do it. Now a days, an artist must isolate. ( A real one).
That's always been the case. Committees don't create art, individuals do.