It’s most likely that after Mr. P left the rabbit and the player, he got scratched or bit by an infected, due to his past with an attempt of a cure (his wife testing the cure when she got sick caused the infection to break out), he most likely amputated the parts of infection and replaced it with cybernetic augmentations.
And it might aswell make more questions like when did the robot thing start? Where are the employees (except for Kona) now? How is it tied to the infection?
I just want to correct something: at the end of the”Reguarding the Rumours” the mysterious person is Harry the Horse. The same employee that the CEO was talking to at the start of the video and threatened to fire.
@@theOrignator even if that was true, which it isn’t, I don’t think the insolence has anything to do with this company. I think this is a brand new thing unrelated, while Intercity will be for the insolence storyline.
Thats my theory: In Hello, Employee Ryder Page is clearly scared and looks like hes uncomfortable and forced to do it, once we see 2 red robot eyes behind him starting to glow he is frightened. At the end we see 4 robots and Ryder with red eyes, he doesn't look scared anymore, hes face has different emotion like he wants to kill you, so something had happend to him. What i think is happening is they are converting people to the console game to train AI of the robots!!! In Piggy we transfer glitched key (which is physical item that we can touch in game life) into a video game. Whats stopping the whole company to not do that with people??? There is a mouse hidden behind the vault that tells us that this is a simulation and tries to help us get out, and items in the glitched realm say: "the AI its trying its best but its still young". Thats why Ryder is scared of robots, beacuse he knows whats happening to them. Ai is young and we teach it what to do and how to do it, we teach them feelings etc. but its still young and not that smart so it will do a lot of things very seriously. As we see in Hello Employee: Robot asks Ryder "I have a question" Ryder responds "Hit me!" Robot Hits Ryder as he said what he meant was to robot say the question, not to literally hit him. As an example from other game. In Fnaf Help Wanted 2 we have a minigame where we teach robots AI how to properly act in a society. If we do good stuff, Ai learns good things, if we do bad stuff, it does bad. In real life we do the same In pig 64 after we go to the glitched world the only requirement for the Warehouse portal is to KILL A PLAYER!!! As we do so, game turns red and we hear a SCREAM and then we are locked in the game, they dont want us to leave for some reason. What we did is we learned robots Ai how to kill people. Thats my theory.
@@miokazqq3671 I get your point but honestly I’m thinking what if ‘Piggy’ was already a video game in its own universe, you get me That wouldn’t go against your theory in general but the glitch key part what if, well never mind How would we have teleported it into another video game from a video game through a fictional computer that’s false then But there are a lot of things that confuse the entire Piggy universe Still all glory to your theory
@@qburtgamez7548 If Piggy main game was a game too, that wouldnt make sense for me. The world is too big, nothing actually proofs that we are in a game during piggy. The glitch key on the second thought might be non canon, just for the badge. pc hidden in a lab Inside the pillar probably is canon especially when we see mr p in "regarding the rumors" he was buying their products and maybe was working with them
@@qburtgamez7548 i realized something. In piggy intercity we Will be some side characters maybe, that would mean that all 3 games are in a game wchich would be just stupid
@@miokazqq3671 yea I know but the times are way off and confusing I have another comment that is all about this I will try to tell you where it’s at acuna614 or something like that was talking about Mr p and his cyborg augmentations go to the bottom of his replies and you can see what I’m talking about
here's my theory, especially regarding the end. The XORT predates the infection, but it's possible that pig 64 came afterwards, at a time where the infection was starting to calm down a bit. Larry's laundromat has replaced grandmother piggy's poutine store, and there's a lot of other changes too. This would explain mr p, as well as his story might have become more popular in intercity. It seems like someone is trying to dig out this company, as they are going through their tapes, playing their games, and it's possible that the story that all of this is building up to, is set in the present, not the past.
Kitty is 75 years old. Let me explain In pig 64 which was created in 1970, If you go to the mall you can see Kitty's kitchen. So that means Kitty left the restaurant in alley's left 50 -55 years ago
They guy at the end of "Regarding the rumors" is 100% the cameraman Harry at the start arguing with the CEO, he has horse nostrils, a mane and his clothes are the same color as his text. It also makes sense to have access to the recording since well, he's the one that recorded them
I think i discovered something, when the robot hits ryder it's a _clank_ . If he was a normal being, it would be more like a _rip_ due to the weight of the machines.
For your last enigma. I imagine the Mr P was the one who asked the protection people to make the cure for Mrs P. This becoming a sort of sponser or investor. This meant that they gave Mr P copies of what they made (like the console and teleported and such) which he put in plant which I imagine being his research base as well. The crying potato in Pig 64 could likely be just a reference placed by a developer which was given AI, hence the Mrs P and crying thing. Unless of course, they knew what was happening…and they put the potato in there to serve of a sort of reminder…maybe the insolence already got to them. Eddy did talk about insolence in Mansion didn’t he?
11:30 I’m pretty sure this guy’s Harry, the hair on the back of his head is like a horse and horse starts with an H which is also the first letter of Harry. He’s investigating since he was a bit skeptical at the beginning of the video.
Do note that this is a alternative universe. For example : The console that came out in real life, it came out between the 90's. In this alternate universe the console in the Piggy time-line, came out in the 70's.
Hold on can you provide the context? What do you mean by it's an alternate universe? Is Piggy like an alternate universe of ours or is this an alternate universe of Piggy?
I feel like that Book 3 would be the prequel of Book 1 and 2 which means that the book will take place before the books that we have rn During this era we would be an employee of the company and while we are working,we are hunted by some robots that are trying to kill us During this era there will be no book 1/2 characters such as pony,doggy,willow and zizzy since they're either kids or not born yet but we would learn about some things of Mr P that we didnt knew before since he worked in the company Tio also said that he was bullied as a kid (correct me if im wrong) so we would see him getting bullied by some kids,either in school or the park and he would have a toy which resembles Mr Stitch Either way im hyped that piggy is back since it carried through the pandemic (the infection) so its cool to see it come back
While we may see Tio, it's definitely not going to be him as a child. During The Hunt event (with Finley) we see implications of Tios previous life as a prince(?) or at least it hints at him being alive at the same time as King Milo and Queen Viola, who are both long dead.
My theory is that Ryder at the end Ryders bones and organs were replaced with metal and robotic parts to make the protection services think the robot was Ryder so Ryder(now robotic) could tamper with how robots are made and make it that the robots can take over.
I know this sounds kind of wacky, but I think that EEP is somehow related to the Insolence. How does Old Man Eddy even know enough about the Insolence to investigate that thoroughly, how come Tio makes reference to Mr P who is aligned with EEP? How come Mr P seems to be trapped inside PIG 64? How did the glitch happen? This seems to be linked to some supernatural force and the Insolence is the only one we know about. Perhaps the mouse had the same fate as Mr P but was able to break free.
@@Ashent1 That’s my point, it was added in after everything that happened to Mr P at the plant. We don’t know about his status right now so he could’ve been added in by the supernatural force that controls the AI. The game predates the infection but the time we’re playing it in might not be.
Maybe the warehouse is a recreation of the robotics facility, and that's why we aren't allowed in yet, also the glitches could be mixing Mr and Mrs P into the game
Ok, I have noticed something that I haven’t seen you or others talk about. The metro part of the city, the arcade in the mall, and the warehouse to be exact. If you’ve been in these, and given you are a massive Piggy fan, you might feel as if you’ve seen the metro and the arcade before, and you have. They are a one to one remake of the chapters in Piggy: The Lost Book (dead game I know). I have a theory: What if these games are connected in someway? In P:TLB, there was also a warehouse chapter and in Pig 64, the developers are trying to hide a warehouse. What if when it says, “We really did try to make the Warehouse unobtainable, but they found the way” maybe they were taking about how our character along with the bunny, I forgot her name, found the warehouse? It’s pretty far fetched but I think it’s a compelling theory. I wonder what P:TLB will be to be able to solve the lore of Piggy as a whole when it finally comes out (seriously. It’s been like 3 years since we got a proper update).
i just realised something When zee and zuzy break in eddy’s mansion, zuzy talks about him turning people into toys and how it couldnt be true. Sounds familiar when the company got rumors about turning people into robots.
Maybe the game takes place directly before the infection, but around the time when Mrs.P got sick, was still in the hospital, and the substance that causes the infection hasn't existed just yet. Hense why there's a crying potato in the game. But idk, to me, it makes even more but less sense.
I'm so excited for the new lore that's coming out!!!! I'm asking so many questions like how is this connected to the infection? Or does the insolence have any involvement in this?
This is kinda unrelated to the video, but Do you guys remember that one song that played in the end of chapter 12 “ for you to stay” I just realize that song might represent how mr. P and Mrs. P relationship was before the infection because the song is literally about someone who is willing to do anything for their lover even if itputs them at Jeopardy.
I think Ronald is the mouse/ai also that the player we play as is part of an ai and we are trapped in the game because he says “I know” when the mouse asks him about the simulation. But anyway I think that Ronald part way through working with the game people he wanted the ai in the game to get out and he put part of him in the mouse because he also is a mouse that is also how he knows so much about the game. That might also mean why we aren’t actually bad from pig 64 but instead still in the game but alone. I also think that the moderator team thinks that they are really players. But I think Ronald is pulling a Ryder and trying to snitch on the company.
Also mr p could have signed up to put his brain in a ai too. Because he wanted to get payed to cure his wife and that might say why mr p is so sad about miss p also the place where you see miss p in the window might be a hospital.
I think the person watching the cut cam footage was probably harry from the beginning of the video and he is most likely a horse and that’s why he has a mane Also if pig 64 is before piggy, then why is mr p crying over his wife who isn’t dead yet? Why is he even in the game at all?
I believe that the reason Mr. P is in the game is because whats trapped in the game isn't an AI, but TIO, but, similar to FNAF: Help Wanted, TIO has taken on the form of a glitch/AI and the devs just think its an AI. Mr. P's appearance in the pig 64 isn't the only evidence however, we know from the ending of the Mansion chapter that Eddy was studying the insolence, since Eddy is a former employee of Protections Services, he may have known about the AI Ronald was developing, more specifically he knew the AI was subject to the insolence, and thats how Eddy got into studying the insolence in the first place. The appearance of Mr. P shows that TIO was planning the infection long before the events of piggy, which i think is likely, considering that, as we saw in the hunt event, TIO was an actually alive human in medieval times. I believe the ending of PIG 64 will not show the AI escaping, but TIO escaping, again think FNAF: Help Wanted, but hey, thats just a theory... A GAME THEORY
I think the mouse/rat is Ronald's self insert, as well as a chunk of the AI he claims to exist. Ronald couldn't add himself as his original species cuz thats suspicious, so he chose a rat, cuz it starts with R. He also could have taught it the information it had to break the game, but wasn't able to get everything in without getting caught. Thats also maybe why the mysterious text addresses Ronald?
I know this is a reach but Hear me out . We know the mysterious person is an employee that has a Mohawk right? And judging by the fact we can’t see their color, it must be dark, like black or dark red/ dark brown. I decided to read into their hairstyle. And what other animal has a hairline comparable to a Mohawk? A horse. I think the employee who clicked on that video tape thing on the computer was harry. Since we all know their names start with the same letter as the animal they are. Like penny being obviously a pig , Ryder page being a red panda, and etc. I think harry horse was the mysterious person
I brightened the image at the end of the Regarding The Rumors video, and yes, it is a horse. Specifically I believe it is Harry, Harry the Horse, as we saw at the beginning with the arguement with the CEO and Harry, maybe at the end, where he was banging his hands on the table, he was mad at the CEO's success. However, this is just my theory, not hardened.
My theory(it’s a stretch): What if the AI infected the robots, then somehow possessed Ryder. Once Ryder is possessed the AI will try to ruin the company to break free. Then once the company falls, the new company creates Pig 64 to trap the AI from escaping after find out of its pass. And the mouse might be the AI trying to escape itself using us.(This is all a theory and may be stretch)
The PIG 64 game likely was released somewhere after time of the carnivals grand opening, and you can still see that same Ms. P photo in the carnival, which would mean that PIG 64 was released before the infection, because I’m sure Mr. P would not be willing to open the carnival at the time of Ms. P’s sickness, he’d be too busy making a potion, and testing it on patients like the pig’ family, and the point in time that the Mr. P event takes place in PIG 64 is the same time Mr. P was left alone, and ran off, he was too scared, so if you couldn’t already tell, when they were interviewing Mr. P, way before PIG 64 he was invested in it, he must’ve been too lost after the time of Ms. P that he thought he could trust them, but since the company had been taking advantage of others, PIG 64, and the Mouse supposedly to be the AI was also going to take advantage of Mr. P, and thats exactly what they did, the company ruined a part of Mr. P’s life, but he didn’t think of it, he was seduced, so the timeline must be Carnival, PIG 64, the “test,” and House, and so now canonically there are two villains, and neither of them are aware of each other, (the AI, and Tio)
A theory, what if in regarding the rumours, Mrs P was already a bit sick, and when pig 64 released, she was in the hospital already? It would explain Mr P crying after he sees the picture, as she would already have been dying.
I find that the potato pout badge is a kinda weird thing to put in a game. At least on a lore standpoint. If the company or netikz predicted Ms.P's death it makes me think that her dying was something long before the infection, or her death has something to do with that company. What might help this theory is that on a morality perspective. it would be kinda not ok to put a real person crying about their real dying wife. But that's my theory and I could be wrong. Thanks for reading.
And also didn’t the infection start BECAUSE of her disease and Mr. P tried to find a cure? Your theory could work if she had been dying for a while but things aren’t adding up. (Not tryna be mean I’m just providing my thoughts)
The mouse has some relation to TIO. They were trapped in a dimension or place they couldn't escape from, requiring the player (#us) to escape their eternal prisons. If the mouse is TIO, it would explain why TIO was so easily "defeated", as he escaped into the digital realm to break the code. TIO was basically a god, but he could have forgotten his powers due to the codes of Pig 64. When he breaks the code, he can unleash a barrage of not infected animals, but robots to get his revenge.
I think PSTM&M was creating an AI that could predict the future(because an algorithm that could predict the future could essentially halt all crime), but the AI went rogue and refused to disclose any information about the future. PSTM&M didnt want to destroy it, and hid it. The creation of this AI led to unrest inside the company, and the company was draining its coffers, eventually leading to bankruptcy. The AI was hidden inside this game(for reasons unknown, maybe the game is a construct of the AI's imagination and not actually created by Ronald), and eventually the game, along with the AI and the console, were sold to other companies.
I have a theory that " the AI trying it's but it's still young" I personally think the AI may have generated that hence the bad grammar it's still young and hasn't learned proper grammar and it is still learning i may just be an idiot lol
I mean it's all but confirmed the AI is in the game, not only is there that message spelled by the rings, but also you're only able to teleport the key into the game when you insert the chip you get from A PROTOTYPE ROBBY(as seen in the second video) into the computer, a prototype Robby that had to have had AI code by protection services. This confirms they both share the same code, because you wouldn't be able to put the key in the game's code, if you didn't have the game's code to begin with.(So unless Mr.P liked grinding Pig 64 and had the game/code pre-installed on the computer, this basically just confirms the AI lurks in the game)
I think that Ronald is the mouse guy trying to escape. Also, I feel like real people are trapped inside the video game without knowing it's a game. I believe that Ronald developed the game and then after he left the Protection services through mechanics & machines company (or Netikz -- I really like the idea of the PSTM&M falling off and collapsing) the developers trapped him in there. Hence why the mouse knows what to do.
what if the Pig 64 that we play isn't the actual game but a rendition made for employees's at Protection Services Through Machines & Mechanics like a training guide, it makes sense as the challenges don't make sense for normal people and the accessability that we get wouldn't make sense for normal people either, being why the Rat says that this is a simulation. And our player character from piggy stumbled apone it from the Plant and found how to access the "employee" rendition. This could also be why the team behind the official game made for normal people and not the employees think that the ban was "not rightful" another mini theory, what if ronald and some other people made the ban intentional OR the character we were "playing" as was learning to much
My theory about the company and the service is that based off the quality of the videos it seems that they take place around the late 1900 and there is a new robotics company making way later on a protection device hires the company to make them robots to protect people from something so the company starts hiring more people to make more robots after a while people starts spreading rumors about the protection services and company because of writer page seeming like a machine so the protection service hires a filming studio to clear their name but one of the employees being mad at the director decides to leak some footage by putting it in PIG 64, another theory I have is that the reason why the show robots when talking about health is that they have put nano bots into the food in order to brainwash the employees which is why the food looks the way it does as they don’t care what the employees are eating as long as they are getting brainwashed, I also think that the reason why mr potato is a cyborg is because he was working with the company he probably found some spare tech lying around and tried to use the nano machines or spare parts to stop the spread of the infection
I believe that we have seen the cyborg monsters before, in the safe place chapter when they were getting raided by TSP, the bot isnt an infected or TSP member, its a robotified rat "Raze" we never know how he got there, I believe he has been there and the safe place was a building for the company so when the attack happened he was awoken. And in the end the bots eyes are white, raze eyes are white as well
My theory is that Elly's enterprises and Kitty's kitchen exists because kitty is her second name (so it was owned by another family member) and Eddy left pstmam and named Elly's enterprises after his young daughter
Ronald is the mouse in the regarding the rumors tape, and the inventor of the XORT Enter System. This is very clearly showing that Ronald IS the mouse in the Mall Vault, proving that he as well has been locked inside this simulation, for whatever reason.
i feel like the reason mr.p is so relevant is either: A) the person who is talking to ryder at the end of part one IS mr.p B) the ai witnessed mrs.p's infection/death right before being trapped and is replicating it C) both of these things are happening at the same time either way, i'm still puzzled as to why Mrs.p's shadow is still in the window during city which is presumably years later. But it's very likely this takes place just between mrs.p's illness, and the testing for mr.p's cure. Meaning the time jump between mrs.p's illness and the breakout to the infection was much larger than we initially thought. Either way, the ai knows what's going on outside the game, at it want's out.
We have game theory, and then there's Piggy theory. Devoun, every time you make these types of videos you should end it with "But hey, that's just a theory. A GAME THEORY." Would be funny tbh.
Book 1 was about the infection and Book 2 was about the insolence so I feel like Book 3 is all about robots so we have the infection,insolence and robots destroying us
Theory in Piggy when we get the glitch key we use the yellow key on the blue door then in Pig 64 we use the glitch key to enter the locked room where we find Mr P who was in the plant map so maybe we connected Piggy and Pig 64 with the glitch key (they intertwined ig) if Mrs P became unwell closer to Piggy than Pig 64 (which was all the way in 1970 when we can here Mrs P in the camera footage in the response video) why is Mr P crying about his lost potato. Because he was glitched into Pig 64 somehow from Piggy. idk though
I don't believe we can get another book off this considering this takes place in the 1900's and that would mess up the storyline to hell but it may be possible
I think that the ai that your talking about might break out some time after book2 ended so that we can still have the humans verses infected verses robots however my only problem with the theory that the ai breaks out after book 2 is that its had decades to develop already so why now unless its waiting for some thing to happen
I also think the fact that we load the computer in the plant with the chip from prototype Robby (which could contain the AI) backs this theory as the original Robby was one of the initial robots
We should then also try to figure out why the warehouse is here in the first place, and why can’t they just get rid of it? Is the warehouse the base for the game? A possible foundation for a ever growing AI?
Dude with what pig 64 (and probably whatever is coming after it, likely TLB) sets up a malicious ai as an antagonist the player in intercity is gonna have a LOT of opps. Infected, the insolence, potentially the capitol and now a rogue ai sounds like a recipe for disaster for this world
What if- Nevermind, all the original comments are banished to the bottom of the comment section, the bots are here. Edit: This comment was made at around 20 comments in the section. At the time, just around a few minutes, there were already 2 bots using a ‘strange’ profile picture and a ‘caring’ comment. I’m guessing the owner of the video already deleted it.
This robot lore going on will definitely explain why Mr. P became a cyborg at the end of Book 1.
It’s most likely that after Mr. P left the rabbit and the player, he got scratched or bit by an infected, due to his past with an attempt of a cure (his wife testing the cure when she got sick caused the infection to break out), he most likely amputated the parts of infection and replaced it with cybernetic augmentations.
@@MICAHWAVE101 you know her name is just bunny
And it might aswell make more questions like when did the robot thing start? Where are the employees (except for Kona) now? How is it tied to the infection?
maybe
@@Bob-thebuilder I haven’t played book one in a long time so I forgot.
I just want to correct something: at the end of the”Reguarding the Rumours” the mysterious person is Harry the Horse. The same employee that the CEO was talking to at the start of the video and threatened to fire.
Harry sounds a lot like Harold, TIO's file name.
I thought TIO’s file name was TIO
@@wokwihisanit is, idk what this guy is yapping about
@@theOrignator even if that was true, which it isn’t, I don’t think the insolence has anything to do with this company. I think this is a brand new thing unrelated, while Intercity will be for the insolence storyline.
@@user-kn5rw1gs8rthat is, if Intercity does get updated.
Thats my theory:
In Hello, Employee Ryder Page is clearly scared and looks like hes uncomfortable and forced to do it, once we see 2 red robot eyes behind him starting to glow he is frightened. At the end we see 4 robots and Ryder with red eyes, he doesn't look scared anymore, hes face has different emotion like he wants to kill you, so something had happend to him.
What i think is happening is they are converting people to the console game to train AI of the robots!!!
In Piggy we transfer glitched key (which is physical item that we can touch in game life) into a video game. Whats stopping the whole company to not do that with people???
There is a mouse hidden behind the vault that tells us that this is a simulation and tries to help us get out, and items in the glitched realm say: "the AI its trying its best but its still young". Thats why Ryder is scared of robots, beacuse he knows whats happening to them.
Ai is young and we teach it what to do and how to do it, we teach them feelings etc. but its still young and not that smart so it will do a lot of things very seriously. As we see in Hello Employee:
Robot asks Ryder "I have a question"
Ryder responds "Hit me!"
Robot Hits Ryder as he said
what he meant was to robot say the question, not to literally hit him.
As an example from other game. In Fnaf Help Wanted 2 we have a minigame where we teach robots AI how to properly act in a society. If we do good stuff, Ai learns good things, if we do bad stuff, it does bad. In real life we do the same
In pig 64 after we go to the glitched world the only requirement for the Warehouse portal is to KILL A PLAYER!!! As we do so, game turns red and we hear a SCREAM and then we are locked in the game, they dont want us to leave for some reason.
What we did is we learned robots Ai how to kill people. Thats my theory.
such a good theory!
@@miokazqq3671 I get your point but honestly I’m thinking what if ‘Piggy’ was already a video game in its own universe, you get me
That wouldn’t go against your theory in general but the glitch key part what if, well never mind
How would we have teleported it into another video game from a video game through a fictional computer that’s false then
But there are a lot of things that confuse the entire Piggy universe
Still all glory to your theory
@@qburtgamez7548 If Piggy main game was a game too, that wouldnt make sense for me. The world is too big, nothing actually proofs that we are in a game during piggy. The glitch key on the second thought might be non canon, just for the badge. pc hidden in a lab Inside the pillar probably is canon especially when we see mr p in "regarding the rumors" he was buying their products and maybe was working with them
@@qburtgamez7548 i realized something. In piggy intercity we Will be some side characters maybe, that would mean that all 3 games are in a game wchich would be just stupid
@@miokazqq3671 yea I know but the times are way off and confusing I have another comment that is all about this I will try to tell you where it’s at
acuna614 or something like that was talking about Mr p and his cyborg augmentations go to the bottom of his replies and you can see what I’m talking about
Piggy theories are back, it’s great to see them again
here's my theory, especially regarding the end.
The XORT predates the infection, but it's possible that pig 64 came afterwards, at a time where the infection was starting to calm down a bit. Larry's laundromat has replaced grandmother piggy's poutine store, and there's a lot of other changes too. This would explain mr p, as well as his story might have become more popular in intercity. It seems like someone is trying to dig out this company, as they are going through their tapes, playing their games, and it's possible that the story that all of this is building up to, is set in the present, not the past.
That’s a pretty good theory the only thing I don’t understand is why would someone set up a new shop in an infected area
Hello Minitoonfan :D
Good theory but I still don’t want to believe the infection is actually over
Your theory could be the opposite. Larry's laundromat was probably closed before the infection and turned into grandmother piggy's poutine store.
Kitty is 75 years old. Let me explain
In pig 64 which was created in 1970, If you go to the mall you can see Kitty's kitchen. So that means Kitty left the restaurant in alley's left 50 -55 years ago
Thank you Devoun for breaking this down I was trying to find a good video yesterday sand you come through
They guy at the end of "Regarding the rumors" is 100% the cameraman Harry at the start arguing with the CEO, he has horse nostrils, a mane and his clothes are the same color as his text. It also makes sense to have access to the recording since well, he's the one that recorded them
True ngl
I think i discovered something, when the robot hits ryder it's a _clank_ . If he was a normal being, it would be more like a _rip_ due to the weight of the machines.
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That makes sense especially because when i first hear ryder i thought he sounded robotic or just like some robot.
Kinda terrifying
For your last enigma. I imagine the Mr P was the one who asked the protection people to make the cure for Mrs P. This becoming a sort of sponser or investor.
This meant that they gave Mr P copies of what they made (like the console and teleported and such) which he put in plant which I imagine being his research base as well.
The crying potato in Pig 64 could likely be just a reference placed by a developer which was given AI, hence the Mrs P and crying thing.
Unless of course, they knew what was happening…and they put the potato in there to serve of a sort of reminder…maybe the insolence already got to them. Eddy did talk about insolence in Mansion didn’t he?
11:30 I’m pretty sure this guy’s Harry, the hair on the back of his head is like a horse and horse starts with an H which is also the first letter of Harry. He’s investigating since he was a bit skeptical at the beginning of the video.
He’s also wearing green, and Harry’s subtitles were green at the beginning of the video.
It looks like a hyena, if you look closely you can see fur on the cheeks, so i dont think its a horse
Harry is commonly short for Harold, Tio's file name.
@@theOrignator I don’t think the insolence is involved in this story arc tbh,
@@user-kn5rw1gs8rI forgot to mention that
Do note that this is a alternative universe. For example : The console that came out in real life, it came out between the 90's. In this alternate universe the console in the Piggy time-line, came out in the 70's.
Jarvis, get this pinned.
yeah obv this is an alternate timeline fron irl
@@Sheeptastical1935 No because some people thought the main game took place between the 2020's.
@@ItsXYPYhatGuy wdym no? The two statements can coexist, can they not?
Hold on can you provide the context? What do you mean by it's an alternate universe? Is Piggy like an alternate universe of ours or is this an alternate universe of Piggy?
"The robots are turning humans into...robots to be more efficient, to be better."
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I feel like that Book 3 would be the prequel of Book 1 and 2 which means that the book will take place before the books that we have rn
During this era we would be an employee of the company and while we are working,we are hunted by some robots that are trying to kill us
During this era there will be no book 1/2 characters such as pony,doggy,willow and zizzy since they're either kids or not born yet but we would learn about some things of Mr P that we didnt knew before since he worked in the company
Tio also said that he was bullied as a kid (correct me if im wrong) so we would see him getting bullied by some kids,either in school or the park and he would have a toy which resembles Mr Stitch
Either way im hyped that piggy is back since it carried through the pandemic (the infection) so its cool to see it come back
Isn't TIO like... a billion years old?
While we may see Tio, it's definitely not going to be him as a child. During The Hunt event (with Finley) we see implications of Tios previous life as a prince(?) or at least it hints at him being alive at the same time as King Milo and Queen Viola, who are both long dead.
My theory is that when the robots control the employees mind their consciousness goes into pig 64
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My theory is that Ryder at the end Ryders bones and organs were replaced with metal and robotic parts to make the protection services think the robot was Ryder so Ryder(now robotic) could tamper with how robots are made and make it that the robots can take over.
I know this sounds kind of wacky, but I think that EEP is somehow related to the Insolence. How does Old Man Eddy even know enough about the Insolence to investigate that thoroughly, how come Tio makes reference to Mr P who is aligned with EEP? How come Mr P seems to be trapped inside PIG 64? How did the glitch happen? This seems to be linked to some supernatural force and the Insolence is the only one we know about. Perhaps the mouse had the same fate as Mr P but was able to break free.
This actually makes some sense lol
But Mr.p is alive and well… until plant as far as we know
@@Ashent1 never said he died
@@Turtleoptimist if this predates the infection, Mr.p being trapped in wouldn’t make sense
@@Ashent1 That’s my point, it was added in after everything that happened to Mr P at the plant. We don’t know about his status right now so he could’ve been added in by the supernatural force that controls the AI. The game predates the infection but the time we’re playing it in might not be.
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"I know Benji, I know. We don't like the CEO man" 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Nowadays every game is being centered around murderous AI, fake virtual worlds and all sorts of illogical and repetitive plot points
No way minitoon just predicted the AI take over.
BRO HE DID
Bro these trailer came out this month wdym? The timeline in those trailer 1970 but he made em during those years ofc..
ai is really scary and we know that it can take over the world yet we are still working on making it better
Maybe the warehouse is a recreation of the robotics facility, and that's why we aren't allowed in yet, also the glitches could be mixing Mr and Mrs P into the game
Ok, I have noticed something that I haven’t seen you or others talk about. The metro part of the city, the arcade in the mall, and the warehouse to be exact. If you’ve been in these, and given you are a massive Piggy fan, you might feel as if you’ve seen the metro and the arcade before, and you have. They are a one to one remake of the chapters in Piggy: The Lost Book (dead game I know). I have a theory: What if these games are connected in someway? In P:TLB, there was also a warehouse chapter and in Pig 64, the developers are trying to hide a warehouse. What if when it says, “We really did try to make the Warehouse unobtainable, but they found the way” maybe they were taking about how our character along with the bunny, I forgot her name, found the warehouse? It’s pretty far fetched but I think it’s a compelling theory. I wonder what P:TLB will be to be able to solve the lore of Piggy as a whole when it finally comes out (seriously. It’s been like 3 years since we got a proper update).
So nice to see you doing piggy theories again!!
We better see the return of piggy suggestion review
i just realised something
When zee and zuzy break in eddy’s mansion, zuzy talks about him turning people into toys and how it couldnt be true.
Sounds familiar when the company
got rumors about turning people into robots.
Maybe the game takes place directly before the infection, but around the time when Mrs.P got sick, was still in the hospital, and the substance that causes the infection hasn't existed just yet.
Hense why there's a crying potato in the game.
But idk, to me, it makes even more but less sense.
Interesting
Fym interesting u havent watch the vid yet
@@seanlionel1559dont have to be so rude, and dont be so quick to judge. maybe they did watch the video
@@seanlionel1559💀💀 shh bro
@@seanlionel1559hm.. interesting
@@bootysnatcher5000bro he is right
The vid is 21 minutes long and it just released
I'm so excited for the new lore that's coming out!!!!
I'm asking so many questions like how is this connected to the infection? Or does the insolence have any involvement in this?
This channel is so underrated its inane
This is kinda unrelated to the video, but Do you guys remember that one song that played in the end of chapter 12 “ for you to stay” I just realize that song might represent how mr. P and Mrs. P relationship was before the infection because the song is literally about someone who is willing to do anything for their lover even if itputs them at Jeopardy.
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6:21 Me when practicing for a school presentation in front of the entire class.
5:23 AS SOON AS YOU SAID HAT ROBOTS ARE TURNING PEOPLE INTO ROBOTS I THOUGHT OF RAZE. MAYBE HE HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS.
WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE
I think Ronald is the mouse/ai also that the player we play as is part of an ai and we are trapped in the game because he says “I know” when the mouse asks him about the simulation. But anyway I think that Ronald part way through working with the game people he wanted the ai in the game to get out and he put part of him in the mouse because he also is a mouse that is also how he knows so much about the game. That might also mean why we aren’t actually bad from pig 64 but instead still in the game but alone. I also think that the moderator team thinks that they are really players. But I think Ronald is pulling a Ryder and trying to snitch on the company.
Also mr p could have signed up to put his brain in a ai too. Because he wanted to get payed to cure his wife and that might say why mr p is so sad about miss p also the place where you see miss p in the window might be a hospital.
I think the person watching the cut cam footage was probably harry from the beginning of the video and he is most likely a horse and that’s why he has a mane
Also if pig 64 is before piggy, then why is mr p crying over his wife who isn’t dead yet? Why is he even in the game at all?
It makes me laugh that even Benji hates Mudson. I think he’s on the same side as most of us.
21 Minutes of This? Fair Trade Devoun
I believe that the reason Mr. P is in the game is because whats trapped in the game isn't an AI, but TIO, but, similar to FNAF: Help Wanted, TIO has taken on the form of a glitch/AI and the devs just think its an AI. Mr. P's appearance in the pig 64 isn't the only evidence however, we know from the ending of the Mansion chapter that Eddy was studying the insolence, since Eddy is a former employee of Protections Services, he may have known about the AI Ronald was developing, more specifically he knew the AI was subject to the insolence, and thats how Eddy got into studying the insolence in the first place. The appearance of Mr. P shows that TIO was planning the infection long before the events of piggy, which i think is likely, considering that, as we saw in the hunt event, TIO was an actually alive human in medieval times. I believe the ending of PIG 64 will not show the AI escaping, but TIO escaping, again think FNAF: Help Wanted, but hey, thats just a theory... A GAME THEORY
I think this is going to lead up to a book 3 that will be a prequel
I think the mouse/rat is Ronald's self insert, as well as a chunk of the AI he claims to exist. Ronald couldn't add himself as his original species cuz thats suspicious, so he chose a rat, cuz it starts with R. He also could have taught it the information it had to break the game, but wasn't able to get everything in without getting caught. Thats also maybe why the mysterious text addresses Ronald?
I know this is a reach but Hear me out . We know the mysterious person is an employee that has a Mohawk right? And judging by the fact we can’t see their color, it must be dark, like black or dark red/ dark brown. I decided to read into their hairstyle. And what other animal has a hairline comparable to a Mohawk? A horse. I think the employee who clicked on that video tape thing on the computer was harry. Since we all know their names start with the same letter as the animal they are. Like penny being obviously a pig , Ryder page being a red panda, and etc. I think harry horse was the mysterious person
I brightened the image at the end of the Regarding The Rumors video, and yes, it is a horse. Specifically I believe it is Harry, Harry the Horse, as we saw at the beginning with the arguement with the CEO and Harry, maybe at the end, where he was banging his hands on the table, he was mad at the CEO's success. However, this is just my theory, not hardened.
My theory(it’s a stretch): What if the AI infected the robots, then somehow possessed Ryder. Once Ryder is possessed the AI will try to ruin the company to break free. Then once the company falls, the new company creates Pig 64 to trap the AI from escaping after find out of its pass. And the mouse might be the AI trying to escape itself using us.(This is all a theory and may be stretch)
I guess this is going to be a new era (old actually idk till now we all dont know) where robots take over the infection.
old devoun is slowly coming back... all is left is gorg pag...
6:14 “Paige Ryder”😂
The PIG 64 game likely was released somewhere after time of the carnivals grand opening, and you can still see that same Ms. P photo in the carnival, which would mean that PIG 64 was released before the infection, because I’m sure Mr. P would not be willing to open the carnival at the time of Ms. P’s sickness, he’d be too busy making a potion, and testing it on patients like the pig’ family, and the point in time that the Mr. P event takes place in PIG 64 is the same time Mr. P was left alone, and ran off, he was too scared, so if you couldn’t already tell, when they were interviewing Mr. P, way before PIG 64 he was invested in it, he must’ve been too lost after the time of Ms. P that he thought he could trust them, but since the company had been taking advantage of others, PIG 64, and the Mouse supposedly to be the AI was also going to take advantage of Mr. P, and thats exactly what they did, the company ruined a part of Mr. P’s life, but he didn’t think of it, he was seduced, so the timeline must be Carnival, PIG 64, the “test,” and House, and so now canonically there are two villains, and neither of them are aware of each other, (the AI, and Tio)
A theory, what if in regarding the rumours, Mrs P was already a bit sick, and when pig 64 released, she was in the hospital already? It would explain Mr P crying after he sees the picture, as she would already have been dying.
I find that the potato pout badge is a kinda weird thing to put in a game. At least on a lore standpoint. If the company or netikz predicted Ms.P's death it makes me think that her dying was something long before the infection, or her death has something to do with that company. What might help this theory is that on a morality perspective. it would be kinda not ok to put a real person crying about their real dying wife. But that's my theory and I could be wrong. Thanks for reading.
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So would that mean Mr. P was lying in the book one true ending?
And also didn’t the infection start BECAUSE of her disease and Mr. P tried to find a cure? Your theory could work if she had been dying for a while but things aren’t adding up. (Not tryna be mean I’m just providing my thoughts)
has anyone else noticed that at 9:46 the ceo has wires coming out of his head?
I just thought of something. If this takes place in like 1970 and Kona worked at the company, then how old is he now?
maybe the reason this is all happening is because they used a nes instead of making a proper n64 model
mr p coming back was the most joyfull moment of my life
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The mouse has some relation to TIO. They were trapped in a dimension or place they couldn't escape from, requiring the player (#us) to escape their eternal prisons. If the mouse is TIO, it would explain why TIO was so easily "defeated", as he escaped into the digital realm to break the code. TIO was basically a god, but he could have forgotten his powers due to the codes of Pig 64. When he breaks the code, he can unleash a barrage of not infected animals, but robots to get his revenge.
I think PSTM&M was creating an AI that could predict the future(because an algorithm that could predict the future could essentially halt all crime), but the AI went rogue and refused to disclose any information about the future. PSTM&M didnt want to destroy it, and hid it. The creation of this AI led to unrest inside the company, and the company was draining its coffers, eventually leading to bankruptcy. The AI was hidden inside this game(for reasons unknown, maybe the game is a construct of the AI's imagination and not actually created by Ronald), and eventually the game, along with the AI and the console, were sold to other companies.
Although this is my theory, i feel like there are some major holes in it
Yeah, they knew mr p would lose his wife
Makes sense on why that thanos knockoff was crying over his wife
Theory Ronald is the raze skin in piggy and the bot in book2 chapter 4 and his last name is raze, Ronald raze
I have a theory that " the AI trying it's but it's still young" I personally think the AI may have generated that hence the bad grammar it's still young and hasn't learned proper grammar and it is still learning i may just be an idiot lol
Devoun might become the next matpat
I wonder if we'll get prototype duocara in part 2, since we got prototype robby in part 1 🤔
I hope we'll get robald or eddy
No. That’s because this is an event chapter that doesn’t involve piggy lore.
@@VASKOTOs1 if so, then why would they include duocara and eddy in the video?
I don't like the prototype duocara but it's nice if it's on aprp
Or like an alternate skin
I mean it's all but confirmed the AI is in the game, not only is there that message spelled by the rings, but also you're only able to teleport the key into the game when you insert the chip you get from A PROTOTYPE ROBBY(as seen in the second video) into the computer, a prototype Robby that had to have had AI code by protection services. This confirms they both share the same code, because you wouldn't be able to put the key in the game's code, if you didn't have the game's code to begin with.(So unless Mr.P liked grinding Pig 64 and had the game/code pre-installed on the computer, this basically just confirms the AI lurks in the game)
5 accidents, 5 children, it’s the FNAF tie-in confirmed
4:58 tbh i just thought of that scene as the little block guy being my oc LOL
I think that Ronald is the mouse guy trying to escape. Also, I feel like real people are trapped inside the video game without knowing it's a game. I believe that Ronald developed the game and then after he left the Protection services through mechanics & machines company (or Netikz -- I really like the idea of the PSTM&M falling off and collapsing) the developers trapped him in there. Hence why the mouse knows what to do.
what if the Pig 64 that we play isn't the actual game but a rendition made for employees's at Protection Services Through Machines & Mechanics like a training guide, it makes sense as the challenges don't make sense for normal people and the accessability that we get wouldn't make sense for normal people either, being why the Rat says that this is a simulation. And our player character from piggy stumbled apone it from the Plant and found how to access the "employee" rendition. This could also be why the team behind the official game made for normal people and not the employees think that the ban was "not rightful"
another mini theory, what if ronald and some other people made the ban intentional OR the character we were "playing" as was learning to much
Man I love “page rider” he’s one of my favorite character
My theory about the company and the service is that based off the quality of the videos it seems that they take place around the late 1900 and there is a new robotics company making way later on a protection device hires the company to make them robots to protect people from something so the company starts hiring more people to make more robots after a while people starts spreading rumors about the protection services and company because of writer page seeming like a machine so the protection service hires a filming studio to clear their name but one of the employees being mad at the director decides to leak some footage by putting it in PIG 64, another theory I have is that the reason why the show robots when talking about health is that they have put nano bots into the food in order to brainwash the employees which is why the food looks the way it does as they don’t care what the employees are eating as long as they are getting brainwashed, I also think that the reason why mr potato is a cyborg is because he was working with the company he probably found some spare tech lying around and tried to use the nano machines or spare parts to stop the spread of the infection
I believe that we have seen the cyborg monsters before, in the safe place chapter when they were getting raided by TSP, the bot isnt an infected or TSP member, its a robotified rat "Raze" we never know how he got there, I believe he has been there and the safe place was a building for the company so when the attack happened he was awoken. And in the end the bots eyes are white, raze eyes are white as well
The infection, The insolence, AI's... What could that mean? The insolence and the AI part of the story still remain mostly in dark for us...
My theory is that Elly's enterprises and Kitty's kitchen exists because kitty is her second name (so it was owned by another family member) and Eddy left pstmam and named Elly's enterprises after his young daughter
Ronald is the mouse in the regarding the rumors tape, and the inventor of the XORT Enter System. This is very clearly showing that Ronald IS the mouse in the Mall Vault, proving that he as well has been locked inside this simulation, for whatever reason.
i feel like the reason mr.p is so relevant is either:
A) the person who is talking to ryder at the end of part one IS mr.p
B) the ai witnessed mrs.p's infection/death right before being trapped and is replicating it
C) both of these things are happening at the same time
either way, i'm still puzzled as to why Mrs.p's shadow is still in the window during city which is presumably years later.
But it's very likely this takes place just between mrs.p's illness, and the testing for mr.p's cure. Meaning the time jump between mrs.p's illness and the breakout to the infection was much larger than we initially thought. Either way, the ai knows what's going on outside the game, at it want's out.
The shadow that you're talking about in city is actually Mrs P
@@Whoseknownasthis i literally said that
#1 piggy lore hunter- Benji (idk if I spelled ur dogs name right sorry if I did 😭)
I think that the gltich key in Piggy is meta, not canon.
Piggy really be pulling a FNAF here😭
Guys I just played mansion today and realized at the end cutscene Eddie calls Finley from the time map
We have game theory, and then there's Piggy theory.
Devoun, every time you make these types of videos you should end it with "But hey, that's just a theory. A GAME THEORY." Would be funny tbh.
In the picture for the may thing we see that KONA made the prototype the same person who made Robby
Book 1 was about the infection and Book 2 was about the insolence so I feel like Book 3 is all about robots so we have the infection,insolence and robots destroying us
MiniToon develops more continually than ever.
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I thought Ronald was the mouse guy in mall
I'm not sure if this is important, but the company's initials backward is M & M TSP. I'm assuming it has something to do with the silver paw.
In the "Reguarding the Rumors" the Panda is the guy from teaser image of Pig 64 part two.
ok idk if anyone has said anything about it. But aren't the 3 maps from that old piggy game "The Lost Book"
Theory in Piggy when we get the glitch key we use the yellow key on the blue door then in Pig 64 we use the glitch key to enter the locked room where we find Mr P who was in the plant map so maybe we connected Piggy and Pig 64 with the glitch key (they intertwined ig) if Mrs P became unwell closer to Piggy than Pig 64 (which was all the way in 1970 when we can here Mrs P in the camera footage in the response video) why is Mr P crying about his lost potato. Because he was glitched into Pig 64 somehow from Piggy. idk though
This is giving me Shipwrecked 64 vibes
I don't believe we can get another book off this considering this takes place in the 1900's and that would mess up the storyline to hell but it may be possible
holy crap, piggy theories are back???
Dam did not expect devoun to talk about piggy ever again
I think that the ai that your talking about might break out some time after book2 ended so that we can still have the humans verses infected verses robots however my only problem with the theory that the ai breaks out after book 2 is that its had decades to develop already so why now unless its waiting for some thing to happen
I do believe that this video game company was either a sub company or a bigger company that bought the robotics company for their own malicious use
I also think the fact that we load the computer in the plant with the chip from prototype Robby (which could contain the AI) backs this theory as the original Robby was one of the initial robots
Yeah
We should then also try to figure out why the warehouse is here in the first place, and why can’t they just get rid of it? Is the warehouse the base for the game? A possible foundation for a ever growing AI?
Pig 64 meme review when? /j
Kreek going mentally insane multiple times trying to find the hq code
@@danithegamer2895Yo final challenge Find the tower code
Dude with what pig 64 (and probably whatever is coming after it, likely TLB) sets up a malicious ai as an antagonist the player in intercity is gonna have a LOT of opps. Infected, the insolence, potentially the capitol and now a rogue ai sounds like a recipe for disaster for this world
Oh man, I gotta catch up on the new story stuff!
What if- Nevermind, all the original comments are banished to the bottom of the comment section, the bots are here.
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I haven’t seen a single bot yet? Your just complaining and trying to look smart