Thanks for the thorough review. I think the MS 162 is going to be a huge miss for Stihl. Heavier, less power, crappy bar. They're going to regret launching that one. I think your graphic at 6:44 is wrong. The 180 only has 2.0 bhp, if I'm not mistaken. If it's truly a 2.8 bhp saw, then I'm running out and buying 2! It's really a shame that they bloat these up with emissions crap for a homeowner saw that will see 3 tank-fulls of gas per year. The Stihlusa website, as of end-of-Feb, shows the 172 C-E with metal dogs (bumper spikes). Clearly had plastic only on yours, though. I wonder if the website shows an earlier prototype or if your saw is an earlier build. BTW, you're one of the only Stihl dealers I've seen that doesn't know how to say Stihl ... might want to consider learning the right way. ;)
so 162 is 15% heavier saw with 7% less power. so that's a 20+ percent worse saw that comes with a bar without a sprocket. and one less case cover nut. that's some "improvements". germans are not what they used to be.
On the 182 C the chain sits wrong on the motor sprocket (take a look at min 6:38). If a novice owner buys it it'll have a great time ruining his new saw. I just bought my first chainsaw and documented the hell out of me before even starting it (haven't started it yet 😄, an MS 251 but in Europe there might be differences in similarly named models that US has). Also on the 182 C the bar does have a sprocket on the tip and has 4 bolts compared to the one on the 162 with 3 bolts on the tip and no sprocket, same Light 04 bar. Weird stuff! Good luck sir and salutations from Romania!
I bought a new 182 C back in January and I love the saw but it leaks bar oil like crazy. Going to have to fix that issue but it runs great and starts easy every time.
What is a good replacement bar and chain for the MS 172 c, my son lost the bar and chain in the woods. 😡 I tried to listen to the part number you read but had a hard time hearing it clearly.
@HomesteadBandwagon thank you, much appreciated! I was having a hard time finding it on Stihl website. It looks like the one that comes on it is better than the light series that doesn't have a sprocket
Great breakdown on the new Stihl chainsaws! The MS 162, 172, and 182 models seem like an interesting evolution from the MS 180. I appreciate how you highlighted the changes in weight, cutting performance, and ease of maintenance. For anyone who works in the field regularly, these updates could make a big difference. Do you think these newer models will hold up to the durability and legacy of the MS 180?
I don't know about 10 years in the future, but we've sold a number of them and haven't had any in for repairs yet. I do like the fact that they're higher displacement than the saws they replace. It seems to make a bif difference
I don’t like the direction. Makes me think they are making the gas stuff worse to push folks to go battery. If it were me buying, I would save up for a 261 pro saw.
They have light bars but weight what appears to be 1 lb heavier. Did they change the case material? I have a 251 C-BE from 3 yrs ago. The so called 18" bar is really a 16" bar which sucks. I also notice that they seem to have longer bars.
I think the engine they are using weighs a bit more. It's got a larger displacement, and lower emissions, so there's something going on there for sure. Chainsaw bars use kinda fuzzy math, in my opinion. A lot of Stihl bars are measuring more from the end of the sprocket on the saw to the tip of the bar than just the bar length.
The 171 made the switch smaller so the top cover could be removed without resetting the switch position. I do wish a 171 had been shown instead of a 180 or in addition to, as it was a middle step between these generations. Flippy caps, larger engine, chain adjuster conveniently placed and good anti vibe- Ive had a pile of 170s and 180s, they got it right when they designed the 171. My only complaint is it takes a minute to warm up.
I don't know many specifics about the Echo saws, but our tecnician who works on saws has had a number of problems with getting parts for the Echo machines
Echo cs310 comes in 14in bar and has less power the stihl 172 has slightly more power and 16in bar. That echo model has been around a long time it’s underpowered but reliable. I would buy the echo cs3510 instead of either of those options. It’s 34ccs and 8 pounds great saw comes with 16in bar. I’m not a fan of stihls new homeowner saws so I’ll only be purchasing professional stihl chainsaws and echo homeowner saws from now on.
I wouldn't use a 194t on a regular basis. It's designed for tree climbers, so it's really not great for regular use. I'd get a MS250. It's a very solid saw
bruh i wish i knew they were about to release new saws i would have waited to get my carving saw lol. i think the old 170 is better. i do like that they changed the side cover to match the pros but im assuming its plastic? its a nice set up if you throw your chain off
Why on earth would anyone buy a 30cc class chainsaw that weights the same as the 50cc class chainsaws that you can do 10 times the work and use way more bar length options ? I like my 180 because it was an 8lb chainsaw if I want to haul around a 10lb chainsaw I have my 50cc class chainsaw. The entire point of a smaller cc chainsaw was the weight reduction it offered with the trade off being a wimpier chainsaw so again having a 30cc 10lb chainsaw is pointless when you can just get a 50cc class chainsaw for the same weight
I bought a 162 because I got tired of using a bigger saw for cleaning up brush and trash from the trees I have cut. I should have done a little research because it doesn't even have enough power for little limbs and branches. Pretty damn pathetic excuse for a saw from a company that claims to be superior to everything else.
It's a little anemic for sure. I think part of the problem is the bar. With no sprocket, I'm sure that there is increased friction and reduced tip speed
My ms 182 sucks only runs once won’t start again after you turn it off frustrating when you need it to start more then once a day not what I expected out of a new saw
That stinks. They're pretty famous for flooding. Are you trying to choke it after it's been run already that day? I find that if they've been run within the last 2 or 3 hours, they'll flood if you choke them
@@HomesteadBandwagon I don’t use the choke to restart it almost seems like once it’s hot it won’t preform it’ll run at idle but dies once the throttle is pulled I tried to feather the throttle slowly and hard but it just dies it’s just sad a new saw would be so troublesome Thank you for the reply
No much changed carburator 1 bolt only not changed nothing. My Stihl 880 and 171 chainsaw 3 Jack bolt carburator more better setting high and low and HLA
The old 170 is the superior saw. All of these new saws are like the same weight as a 250/251. Why would anyone even buy these bloated underpowered saw.
@DirectoutdoorsTV 025 was way better than a MS170. If you want a good farm saw just buy a MS261. Cry once and be done. If you don't have 700.00 dollars buy a MS180 without tool less bar and without easy start. I bought one for 199.00
@@mikeraftis6332 thank you sir. That is what I will do. I was going to get the 170, then I found the 180, and heard it is better power to weight. And it's not much more money.
![Digital Circus Episode 4 [TRAILER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/abZtsmMUbJo/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for the thorough review. I think the MS 162 is going to be a huge miss for Stihl. Heavier, less power, crappy bar. They're going to regret launching that one. I think your graphic at 6:44 is wrong. The 180 only has 2.0 bhp, if I'm not mistaken. If it's truly a 2.8 bhp saw, then I'm running out and buying 2!
It's really a shame that they bloat these up with emissions crap for a homeowner saw that will see 3 tank-fulls of gas per year.
The Stihlusa website, as of end-of-Feb, shows the 172 C-E with metal dogs (bumper spikes). Clearly had plastic only on yours, though. I wonder if the website shows an earlier prototype or if your saw is an earlier build.
BTW, you're one of the only Stihl dealers I've seen that doesn't know how to say Stihl ... might want to consider learning the right way. ;)
so 162 is 15% heavier saw with 7% less power. so that's a 20+ percent worse saw that comes with a bar without a sprocket. and one less case cover nut. that's some "improvements". germans are not what they used to be.
On the 182 C the chain sits wrong on the motor sprocket (take a look at min 6:38). If a novice owner buys it it'll have a great time ruining his new saw. I just bought my first chainsaw and documented the hell out of me before even starting it (haven't started it yet 😄, an MS 251 but in Europe there might be differences in similarly named models that US has).
Also on the 182 C the bar does have a sprocket on the tip and has 4 bolts compared to the one on the 162 with 3 bolts on the tip and no sprocket, same Light 04 bar. Weird stuff!
Good luck sir and salutations from Romania!
With the 182 being almost the same weight and actually lighter than the 162. I don’t really see why they have 3 saws in that level
I bought a new 182 C back in January and I love the saw but it leaks bar oil like crazy. Going to have to fix that issue but it runs great and starts easy every time.
Stihl saws tend to be a little drippy like that. Just don't store it on your couch and you're golden!
What is a good replacement bar and chain for the MS 172 c, my son lost the bar and chain in the woods. 😡 I tried to listen to the part number you read but had a hard time hearing it clearly.
The factory bar number is 3005 003 3913 it runs a 3/8p .043 x55 chain. Hope that helps!
@HomesteadBandwagon thank you, much appreciated! I was having a hard time finding it on Stihl website. It looks like the one that comes on it is better than the light series that doesn't have a sprocket
Great breakdown on the new Stihl chainsaws! The MS 162, 172, and 182 models seem like an interesting evolution from the MS 180. I appreciate how you highlighted the changes in weight, cutting performance, and ease of maintenance. For anyone who works in the field regularly, these updates could make a big difference. Do you think these newer models will hold up to the durability and legacy of the MS 180?
I don't know about 10 years in the future, but we've sold a number of them and haven't had any in for repairs yet. I do like the fact that they're higher displacement than the saws they replace. It seems to make a bif difference
I don’t like the direction. Makes me think they are making the gas stuff worse to push folks to go battery. If it were me buying, I would save up for a 261 pro saw.
They have light bars but weight what appears to be 1 lb heavier. Did they change the case material? I have a 251 C-BE from 3 yrs ago. The so called 18" bar is really a 16" bar which sucks. I also notice that they seem to have longer bars.
I think the engine they are using weighs a bit more. It's got a larger displacement, and lower emissions, so there's something going on there for sure. Chainsaw bars use kinda fuzzy math, in my opinion. A lot of Stihl bars are measuring more from the end of the sprocket on the saw to the tip of the bar than just the bar length.
2 lbs heavier of emission control and plastic on average. I'll stick to the ms180 at 8.6# powerhead for light weight and simple reliability
The 171 made the switch smaller so the top cover could be removed without resetting the switch position. I do wish a 171 had been shown instead of a 180 or in addition to, as it was a middle step between these generations. Flippy caps, larger engine, chain adjuster conveniently placed and good anti vibe- Ive had a pile of 170s and 180s, they got it right when they designed the 171. My only complaint is it takes a minute to warm up.
What would you say in comparison between the MS 172C and the echo 310. I’m trying to decide.
I don't know many specifics about the Echo saws, but our tecnician who works on saws has had a number of problems with getting parts for the Echo machines
@@HomesteadBandwagon ok
Echo cs310 comes in 14in bar and has less power the stihl 172 has slightly more power and 16in bar. That echo model has been around a long time it’s underpowered but reliable. I would buy the echo cs3510 instead of either of those options. It’s 34ccs and 8 pounds great saw comes with 16in bar. I’m not a fan of stihls new homeowner saws so I’ll only be purchasing professional stihl chainsaws and echo homeowner saws from now on.
Good video. I was wondering if you could do a similar comparison, with the new battery saws? Msa 70 & 60.
For sure. I haven't gotten either in our store yet, but I'll keep an eye out!
i dont know what to get as my first saw, i really like the MS 194 T because its small and compact, i just didn't realize its $500
I wouldn't use a 194t on a regular basis. It's designed for tree climbers, so it's really not great for regular use. I'd get a MS250. It's a very solid saw
bruh i wish i knew they were about to release new saws i would have waited to get my carving saw lol. i think the old 170 is better. i do like that they changed the side cover to match the pros but im assuming its plastic? its a nice set up if you throw your chain off
Yessir. It's nice looking plastic
Why on earth would anyone buy a 30cc class chainsaw that weights the same as the 50cc class chainsaws that you can do 10 times the work and use way more bar length options ? I like my 180 because it was an 8lb chainsaw if I want to haul around a 10lb chainsaw I have my 50cc class chainsaw. The entire point of a smaller cc chainsaw was the weight reduction it offered with the trade off being a wimpier chainsaw so again having a 30cc 10lb chainsaw is pointless when you can just get a 50cc class chainsaw for the same weight
Because these are $200 and not $1k+ for us landscapers that just do small tree clean ups on occasion these cheap small saws get it done.
Ws 170 vs 172 who win?
I would guess that the 170 would have the edge, but the 172 has it beat on paper for everything but weight
Choć pracuje stihlami , w nowych piłach przerażają mnie przezroczyste kartery 🤔
is the 162 worth a buy for your first Stihl chainsaw?
I'd go with the 172. The 162 is ok, but for a little more money, you get a better bar and more power
Buy 😂second hand 180
Great video, thank you!
I bought a 162 because I got tired of using a bigger saw for cleaning up brush and trash from the trees I have cut. I should have done a little research because it doesn't even have enough power for little limbs and branches. Pretty damn pathetic excuse for a saw from a company that claims to be superior to everything else.
It's a little anemic for sure. I think part of the problem is the bar. With no sprocket, I'm sure that there is increased friction and reduced tip speed
My ms 182 sucks only runs once won’t start again after you turn it off frustrating when you need it to start more then once a day not what I expected out of a new saw
That stinks. They're pretty famous for flooding. Are you trying to choke it after it's been run already that day? I find that if they've been run within the last 2 or 3 hours, they'll flood if you choke them
@@HomesteadBandwagon I don’t use the choke to restart it almost seems like once it’s hot it won’t preform it’ll run at idle but dies once the throttle is pulled I tried to feather the throttle slowly and hard but it just dies
it’s just sad a new saw would be so troublesome
Thank you for the reply
@@Gordon-t8k That's pretty weird. Have you taken it in to your Stihl dealer to look at? Maybe you have a warranty issue!
No much changed carburator 1 bolt only not changed nothing. My Stihl 880 and 171 chainsaw 3 Jack bolt carburator more better setting high and low and HLA
The old 170 is the superior saw. All of these new saws are like the same weight as a 250/251. Why would anyone even buy these bloated underpowered saw.
Would you recommend the normal 170 for normal around farm work? I had a 025 but it was not very reliable.
@DirectoutdoorsTV 025 was way better than a MS170. If you want a good farm saw just buy a MS261. Cry once and be done. If you don't have 700.00 dollars buy a MS180 without tool less bar and without easy start. I bought one for 199.00
@@mikeraftis6332 thank you sir. That is what I will do. I was going to get the 170, then I found the 180, and heard it is better power to weight. And it's not much more money.
I own the last model 170 180 an a older 250 an I just went pick up the 162 an power is the exact same as the 170 just a pound heavier
Lighter saws kickback like a mfer