Monkey Moon is the proof that you need at least one guy that is always in the right place, at the right time and can read the game better than most in order to win RLCS.
Its been true for rocket leagues entire existence tbh think of all the past top teams they all had a slower less mechanical player with better positioning and read on the game. Someone who could do the dirty work basically. F3 had Marky, Dig had turbo, NRG had fireburner, C9 had torment, old vit had kaydop, old old BDS had all of them tbh, moist had rise and VIT had radosin. Tbh G2 is quite an anomaly because they manage to do well without a player like that.
Adding to this, but the ability to "always be in the right place" is probably the single hardest skill in RL to master, and simultenaously one of the most valuable skills. Its so easy to get lost and be in the wrong place or make the wrong choice, but watching MM is very satisfying because he makes it look easy and effortless to always have the boost necessary and the positioning necessary
Only 3 minutes into the video, but my immediate thoughts are that slow average speed, low distance to ball and low distance to teammates all relate to another thing - great boost management and ability to rely on small pads. I bet if you looked, he'd be among the lowest in big pad pickups
The way M0nkey M00n is moving around the pitch looks (to me) like he's awkward a lot of the time, like he doesn't know what to do and like he doesn't create many goal opportunities. But he has excellent mechanics, game sense and incredible reads, and just generally so much control (at least seeing these two games), that he can more than back it up, he doesn't allow his enemies to do anything as he's always there, even his mere presence is irritating to them.\ I think his playstyle is incredible, probably really, really powerful. Imagine if I had a fraction of his mechanics...
Watching pros is not a very good idea imo because they are so far off from your avg player. Watching MM can be really benefitial tho because it can teach you the fundamentals
In the opposite direction me and the people who were watching commented on how much higher level Chalked-First Touch looked just because it was getting all the same fanfare as an RLCS game
We're also watching from monkey moon's pov, a very methodical positioning focused player, which makes the games easier and "simpler" to follow since he's always in the right place at the right time, as opposed to watching someone faster like nwpo or dark dashing everywhere.
To me it looks like MM doesn't look to create opportunities as much and just tries to prevent the other team from scoring until he sees a more clear opening to score. It allows him to play so close and slow because he can sit and look for a good shot or pass but when things don't go as planned he defaults to defending. He jumps for an offensive play very few times in these games and mainly goes to the air to defend. I think this safe playstyle is what has allowed him to thrive and be consistent enough to make 3 worlds grand finals.
agree with that, to me it seems more like a "low but constant pressure" type of play, he puts "low effort" into many plays, so the shots are not the fastest, the 50s arent won overwhelmingly or anything, but its still plays that benefit his team a lot regardless, and MM is not leaving gaps for the opponents to exploit while making these plays. MM seems like he's always fishing for easy opportunities to get great value out of low effort plays, very patiently loitering in safe positions. I think MM is also more aware of other players positioning on the field, especially his own mates
He dose not move fast all the time, but he is faster to the ball than Pretty much any player. This comes down to aggressive positioning. He is extremely aggressively position, and this works because of his absurd ability to read the game. He knows where to be and is faster to every ball.
he’s proof that you always don’t need freestyle esque mechanics to be successful… the best decisions in the game, fantastic boost management, always on the ball when he can be to make things difficult for the other team… in my eyes because he’s done it in the open area He is the greatest Rocket League player there’s ever been
Not even 1m30 in, gonna preshot closest to the ball. In the early 1v1, were he started to get competitive years ago, it was mostly a position ground game, even today positionning is key but players tend to compensate with speed, he doesn't and maybe the reason nowaday he always seems to be in the right place without obviously forcing himself into the play at supersonic speed. He's kinda slow but there's still like a ball over boost mentality, cutting rotation to throw off opponent while keeping it easy for his mates, not going too deep in defense to keep pressure and avoid giving too much space.. Let's see how I did in this prediction.. Edit: Pretty good ! Thanks for the analysis Feer !
It seems like he stays close, but is very careful about when to actually dive. Definitely not what I would consider a ball chaser, but I can forgive the click bait haha
He literally brought up a statistic that proves he's a ball chaser bro, it's not clickbait. Difference to the usual diamond ball chaser is that Monkey Moon isn't braindead
@@strat1227 Are you not chasing the ball if you're always near it? What, do you always just happen to be going in the same direction? It's ball chasing, but LITERALLY, not in the sense of always wanting to touch the ball for no reason.
@DeJay7 right, which is not the same as being a "ball chaser", in any sense of how it's ever been used up until this point. That's why I made the lighthearted joke about the click bait, followed by a "haha". If you expected to see monkey moon "ball chasing" from the title, you'd be wrong. Just a pro with great positioning and game sense.
Idk if I'm the only one noticing, but holy shit within the first 15 seconds i was already blown away by his flow around the field, he's just always in the right place
I’d like to add that this is also something that you can’t really coach for a player. You can tell them to position aggressively, but if they don’t have the proper game sense this can lead to over commits.
so can we talk about what ball chasing is before we go endorsing it ball chasing is NOT staying close to the ball ball chasing IS constantly going for the ball dispite rotation or if your teamate has the ball i hope we can all see the difference and if you feel the same way please give this a like so more people can see it
That explains why he is one of the best players on low boost. He keeps the perfect distance to the play and his teammates to react in an impactful way, but never needs to use boost to get to the play.
The entire sequence from about 8:30-9:10 is what really showcases exactly how good monkeymoon is at being a team player. Even though during this sequence multiple times from a meta perspective it looks like he is out of position, he goes for touches and double or triple commits that RUIN enemy posession. If you commit to 50ing at the appropriate timings in this game you can buy SO much time for your teammates to go grab a hundred and be ready for the next play because they don't have to worry about what the enemy team will do with their possession.
The thing about M0nkey is, he doesn't have all those flashy mechanics which are definitely not needed. He has perfected basic mechanics and his gamesense/gameIQ is off the charts. He is the proof that you don't need all those flashy things and just play the game.
Surely we always knew this about MM? Him playing so close to his teammates is one of the major reasons why when things go badly for BDS, they go real bad, as they eseentially double commit. MM trusts in his game sense because he rightly knows that when he does this well and makes the right decisions, this is an incredibly effective play style
Monkey moon does the actual bare minimum to win. He doesn’t do crazy plays, or show crazy mechanics. He literally just puts himself in the right place at the right time.
Pads. It’s pads. One of the few pros who hasn’t abandoned the long lost art of utilizing pads to stay in the play or in position vs a lot of new younger pros who just go from big boost to big boost and thus are farther from the ball and their teammates as they leave the play to grab 100 boosts
I think we can also mentioned his insane take off speed dû to super high sensitivity (arround 4) which allows him to rise the nose of his car quicker and then get altitude, you can see it everytime he makes a contest jump.
Idk why the current bds reminds me of a toned down OG moist. MM being vati although a less defensive (Moist Vati was insane defense), Exotik and rise are just solid. And Dralii the mechy one like Joyo.
I don't think the comparison works well, because to me MM is more like rise and Exotiik more like Vatira. But we probably prioritise different aspects.
Not a ballchaser at all. Just exceptional positioning in relation to the play/team mates, and being close to the ball ends up being a by-product of him being so good off the ball. He isn't ever "chasing" the ball at all though. He's not blinkered and blindly chasing. His awareness is better than probably anyones in the world. Surely just clickbait, you can't believe it is ballchasing. More stalking if anything. Just world-class game sense.
Honestly i'm so puzzled that the meta in rocket leauge keeps leaning towards solo plays, like it just doesn't make sence, there is so much potential in a 3 man full on attack with actually good passes and good plays, but no one is willing to go there. Also 3 players on defense too is just op ashell but cause of modern meta rotation every now and then there will be a gap in the defense. It just seems so much better to have all 3 players attack at the same time, and defend at the same time.
AppJack explained this already a year or more ago in one of his vids. MoneyMoon is a god at the mid field as obvious. Nothing flashy, just game sense. Stays close to the ball and rarely makes a mistake
I feel Monkeymoon is playing a mostly dedicated 2nd man positioning and very rarely 3rd man and it feels this is a team choice as in, his teammates know this is how it is. He will go from 1st to 2nd man, 3rd to 1st and quickly back to 2nd. He cuts to 2nd man a lot as well and as long as the team is on board it looks like it works.
People shouldn’t care about a ballchaser if every touch is gold and a possible goal. Be glad they can play offensive and score, you can sit back and defend
Well crap, now we are gonna have to prepare for pure ball-chasing even more than normal and teammates sniffing our asses in ranked as people try and emulate the GOAT. But for real, I think MM is one of the best at boost management. When watching his POV I am always thinking I would boost in that situation, and he just doesnt. He is so good on low boost.
monkey moon is a bot, he has been carried by his team mates every worlds. This year he was carried by exxotik. In 2022 he was carried by extra. interesting how both their names start with an ex. No bullshit if this guy didnt have access to the caliber of players that he does we would have never heard of him. He would be gc2 max in my opinion, seeing that feer is gc1 but thats because he starts the season at c3 a few games off gc1 anyways. And only 2 worlds wins and somehow he's the goat? stop it. Zen literally took a fat shit all over bds last year and we weren't quick to judge monkey moon then, we just chalked it up to zen being the best player in the world. literally just look at the first goal of the bds vs vit series.
@@jeaninternet1066 So why doesn’t monkey moon have the mmr record or is a top ones player? I’m saying his mechs are gc2 level. You can’t be a goat in 3s unless you are carrying your team. I’m sorry but he has been carried every time I’ve seen him play 3s. Would zen be the goat if he won another worlds? No. I don’t think you can call a solid role player of your team the goat. Just watch monkey moon playing 3s against champ 3s I think is what I saw he doesn’t stand out at all. For someone to be called the goat in my opinion would have to dominate and win worlds 3 years in a row the way zen won last year. Monkey moon getting carried doesn’t make me think of him as the goat. Just watch game 7 vs falcons this year at worlds, drali literally bailed him out.
I think it's not just averaged over time, but also averaged over both teammates. I wonder if it's least squared method; first instinct was it would make more sense, but on second thought it doesn't work as well for RL where it's more important how close you are to the tm8 with ball than the tm8 that's grabbing boost.
Feer we need a video on Dralii, he won Worlds on his debut season like Zen and no one talks about the poor guy. And Monkey is a great player with even better game sense, I dont like BDS as an org but Monkey makes it easy for you to cheer them up.
this is clickbait, he doesn't ball chase at all, just really good at shadowing and boost management so he doesn't need to leave the play as often. This is NA fanboy cope for choking on home turf, again.
@@SA80TAGE 100% it’s crazy thinking mm is a ball chaser. Literally one of the slowest most methodical players in rl. They’ve gotta cope on something I guess😂
I'm gonna barf if I keep hearing anyone call a mere three's player the greatest of all time, when he's ranked 94th in one's and 9th in two's. NWPO, Zen, and RW9 are top 10 in those leagues and do extremely well as pros in three's, but MM is the greatest of all time for merely being on teams that have one world's the most? That's pretty insane.
so at 6:08 it looks like he's double committing but was he actually just prejumping behind dralii to receive the touch to the corner before anyone else?
not necessarily, imagine a straight line of players in which monkey moon is perfectly in the middle. A--B--C . B(Monkey Moon) is on average 2 dashes away from his teammates. but A is on average 3 dashes away from his teammates (he is 2 away from B, and 4 away from C). So it's possible to have teammates who aren't as good in this stat (although unlikely). In fact even though BDS were #1,#2,#3 in many LANs there were tons of examples where they weren't and had other players scattered in between them. But I think the fact that Monkey Moon is more often than not #1 in this stat, we can assume he is probably doing the heavy lifting for his teammates in this stat. At the same time his teammates could ruin this stat for him, by separating from each other as much as possible so its hard for him to stay between both. I think this stat ultimately though speaks to how Monkey Moon likes to play, but also how his teams often play.
Interesting maybe they have some sort of game plan where them sticking together is essential for their success. I’d like to see teams exploit this a bit more catching them over committing. I wonder if there’s a correlation between their average distance to each other and their probability of winning.
Monkey Moon is the proof that you need at least one guy that is always in the right place, at the right time and can read the game better than most in order to win RLCS.
Its been true for rocket leagues entire existence tbh think of all the past top teams they all had a slower less mechanical player with better positioning and read on the game. Someone who could do the dirty work basically. F3 had Marky, Dig had turbo, NRG had fireburner, C9 had torment, old vit had kaydop, old old BDS had all of them tbh, moist had rise and VIT had radosin. Tbh G2 is quite an anomaly because they manage to do well without a player like that.
@@George-li1yvatomic this season has def filled that role for G2
Adding to this, but the ability to "always be in the right place" is probably the single hardest skill in RL to master, and simultenaously one of the most valuable skills. Its so easy to get lost and be in the wrong place or make the wrong choice, but watching MM is very satisfying because he makes it look easy and effortless to always have the boost necessary and the positioning necessary
Turbo was the same, gamesense is king.
Only 3 minutes into the video, but my immediate thoughts are that slow average speed, low distance to ball and low distance to teammates all relate to another thing - great boost management and ability to rely on small pads. I bet if you looked, he'd be among the lowest in big pad pickups
Most of the best players are chasers. That's why lower ranked lobbies complain about ballchasing 😂
Monkeymoon just try to be in perfect position, the position that made him able to attack and defend
The way M0nkey M00n is moving around the pitch looks (to me) like he's awkward a lot of the time, like he doesn't know what to do and like he doesn't create many goal opportunities.
But he has excellent mechanics, game sense and incredible reads, and just generally so much control (at least seeing these two games), that he can more than back it up, he doesn't allow his enemies to do anything as he's always there, even his mere presence is irritating to them.\
I think his playstyle is incredible, probably really, really powerful. Imagine if I had a fraction of his mechanics...
so 1 chaser and 2 backups who actually have a great understanding of each others positioning/rotation
Bro is insane 🔥
Watching pros is not a very good idea imo because they are so far off from your avg player. Watching MM can be really benefitial tho because it can teach you the fundamentals
feer do you have a data science background
It's crazy how much less intense these games are without the overlay lmao just feels like some random RL game.
lol fr, and without the casters going crazy
I think its largely because we are watching from a single players POV so were not getting the constant on-ball action and dramatic camera switches
@@e-girladdict1238that's the reason yeah
In the opposite direction me and the people who were watching commented on how much higher level Chalked-First Touch looked just because it was getting all the same fanfare as an RLCS game
We're also watching from monkey moon's pov, a very methodical positioning focused player, which makes the games easier and "simpler" to follow since he's always in the right place at the right time, as opposed to watching someone faster like nwpo or dark dashing everywhere.
To me it looks like MM doesn't look to create opportunities as much and just tries to prevent the other team from scoring until he sees a more clear opening to score. It allows him to play so close and slow because he can sit and look for a good shot or pass but when things don't go as planned he defaults to defending. He jumps for an offensive play very few times in these games and mainly goes to the air to defend. I think this safe playstyle is what has allowed him to thrive and be consistent enough to make 3 worlds grand finals.
agree with that, to me it seems more like a "low but constant pressure" type of play, he puts "low effort" into many plays, so the shots are not the fastest, the 50s arent won overwhelmingly or anything, but its still plays that benefit his team a lot regardless, and MM is not leaving gaps for the opponents to exploit while making these plays. MM seems like he's always fishing for easy opportunities to get great value out of low effort plays, very patiently loitering in safe positions. I think MM is also more aware of other players positioning on the field, especially his own mates
his gamesense and ability to read plays are just next level
He dose not move fast all the time, but he is faster to the ball than Pretty much any player. This comes down to aggressive positioning. He is extremely aggressively position, and this works because of his absurd ability to read the game. He knows where to be and is faster to every ball.
Boost management!!! Watching this back it’s so obvious
M0nkey M00n also spends some of the least time on zero boost, so you aren't wrong about that either!
Feer vs JohnnyBoi 1v1 Showmatch- AppJack commentary
Feer vs JohnnyBoi 1v1 Showmatch- AppJack commentary
he’s proof that you always don’t need freestyle esque mechanics to be successful… the best decisions in the game, fantastic boost management, always on the ball when he can be to make things difficult for the other team… in my eyes because he’s done it in the open area
He is the greatest Rocket League player there’s ever been
Feer vs JohnnyBoi 1v1 Showmatch- AppJack commentary
Feer vs JohnnyBoi 1v1 Showmatch - AppJack commentary
no zen
@@TheJacobiTop 5 best individual player yes i can see that but he doesn't come anywhere close to monkeymoon.
@@torti8476 zen better
It’s crazy to me that the goat is a player like monkeymoon. It just doesn’t click in my mind that his playstyle works in this era of rocket league
fundamentals will ALWAYS be the most important aspect of winning. hence why the two GOATs (turbo and MM) have had so much success.
Efficiency above all
@@xMikeisonfire And Kaydop
Well, the goat of 3v3. In this era of RL 1v1 of course it doesn't make sense. In case that was messing you up.
true, he rarely seems to do mechanical plays - especially compared to the zens/daniels
makes the game look easy and boring from his pov
Not even 1m30 in, gonna preshot closest to the ball. In the early 1v1, were he started to get competitive years ago, it was mostly a position ground game, even today positionning is key but players tend to compensate with speed, he doesn't and maybe the reason nowaday he always seems to be in the right place without obviously forcing himself into the play at supersonic speed. He's kinda slow but there's still like a ball over boost mentality, cutting rotation to throw off opponent while keeping it easy for his mates, not going too deep in defense to keep pressure and avoid giving too much space.. Let's see how I did in this prediction.. Edit: Pretty good ! Thanks for the analysis Feer !
It seems like he stays close, but is very careful about when to actually dive. Definitely not what I would consider a ball chaser, but I can forgive the click bait haha
how is it clickbait
He literally brought up a statistic that proves he's a ball chaser bro, it's not clickbait. Difference to the usual diamond ball chaser is that Monkey Moon isn't braindead
@Schmuselord1510 I disagree lol, ball chasing is always trying to touch the ball, staying close to the play is just good positioning
@@strat1227 Are you not chasing the ball if you're always near it? What, do you always just happen to be going in the same direction? It's ball chasing, but LITERALLY, not in the sense of always wanting to touch the ball for no reason.
@DeJay7 right, which is not the same as being a "ball chaser", in any sense of how it's ever been used up until this point. That's why I made the lighthearted joke about the click bait, followed by a "haha". If you expected to see monkey moon "ball chasing" from the title, you'd be wrong. Just a pro with great positioning and game sense.
Idk if I'm the only one noticing, but holy shit within the first 15 seconds i was already blown away by his flow around the field, he's just always in the right place
I’d like to add that this is also something that you can’t really coach for a player. You can tell them to position aggressively, but if they don’t have the proper game sense this can lead to over commits.
Yeah, you definitely can't coach intelligence, hehe ;D
so can we talk about what ball chasing is before we go endorsing it
ball chasing is NOT staying close to the ball
ball chasing IS constantly going for the ball dispite rotation or if your teamate has the ball
i hope we can all see the difference and if you feel the same way please give this a like so more people can see it
That explains why he is one of the best players on low boost. He keeps the perfect distance to the play and his teammates to react in an impactful way, but never needs to use boost to get to the play.
The entire sequence from about 8:30-9:10 is what really showcases exactly how good monkeymoon is at being a team player. Even though during this sequence multiple times from a meta perspective it looks like he is out of position, he goes for touches and double or triple commits that RUIN enemy posession. If you commit to 50ing at the appropriate timings in this game you can buy SO much time for your teammates to go grab a hundred and be ready for the next play because they don't have to worry about what the enemy team will do with their possession.
Shortest distance to teammates is really surprising. Falcons look like they play closest to one another
I saw Jack one time mentioned that whatever team monkey moon is on they always play super close and it makes them hard to beat
Most people brute force the game with mechanics. MonkeyMoon actually thinking about HOW to play.
almost like some other goat....... nitropulsa or smth
I will say this. It is nice to see the game at a normal rocket league player's perspective......ground level............
The thing about M0nkey is, he doesn't have all those flashy mechanics which are definitely not needed. He has perfected basic mechanics and his gamesense/gameIQ is off the charts. He is the proof that you don't need all those flashy things and just play the game.
Beautiful ADB Dodge right at the beginning. Nice one!
What’s that?
@@ConnMannMusic Air Dribble Bump
@@robertcarson7871 ahh gotcha thanks
It's the way he shadows the ball, never too far... and his consistency. He rarely hits the ball without knowing exactly what it's going to do.
Surely we always knew this about MM? Him playing so close to his teammates is one of the major reasons why when things go badly for BDS, they go real bad, as they eseentially double commit. MM trusts in his game sense because he rightly knows that when he does this well and makes the right decisions, this is an incredibly effective play style
Sorry but can we talk about that save at 0:13?? Dodges 2 attackers and clears the ball with a single move, holy ..
I mean he just got lucky the guy rotated his car terrible. All he did was hit him into the ball
Monkey moon does the actual bare minimum to win. He doesn’t do crazy plays, or show crazy mechanics. He literally just puts himself in the right place at the right time.
Pads. It’s pads. One of the few pros who hasn’t abandoned the long lost art of utilizing pads to stay in the play or in position vs a lot of new younger pros who just go from big boost to big boost and thus are farther from the ball and their teammates as they leave the play to grab 100 boosts
I think we can also mentioned his insane take off speed dû to super high sensitivity (arround 4) which allows him to rise the nose of his car quicker and then get altitude, you can see it everytime he makes a contest jump.
Yes
Idk why the current bds reminds me of a toned down OG moist. MM being vati although a less defensive (Moist Vati was insane defense), Exotik and rise are just solid. And Dralii the mechy one like Joyo.
I don't think the comparison works well, because to me MM is more like rise and Exotiik more like Vatira. But we probably prioritise different aspects.
so monkey is like a teammate chaser? how cute
Feer vs JohnnyBoi 1v1 Showmatch- AppJack commentary
Monkey Moon is not the GOAT of the open era. He is just the GOAT of RLCS in general.
nah, others like turbopulsa have more world championship titles.
his team ball chaser, striker and a defender
This is a very good video.
how one can be such a good yet bad tm8. or a bad tm8 thats good idk
Not a ballchaser at all. Just exceptional positioning in relation to the play/team mates, and being close to the ball ends up being a by-product of him being so good off the ball. He isn't ever "chasing" the ball at all though. He's not blinkered and blindly chasing. His awareness is better than probably anyones in the world. Surely just clickbait, you can't believe it is ballchasing. More stalking if anything. Just world-class game sense.
Honestly i'm so puzzled that the meta in rocket leauge keeps leaning towards solo plays, like it just doesn't make sence, there is so much potential in a 3 man full on attack with actually good passes and good plays, but no one is willing to go there. Also 3 players on defense too is just op ashell but cause of modern meta rotation every now and then there will be a gap in the defense.
It just seems so much better to have all 3 players attack at the same time, and defend at the same time.
first 10 seconds show that he isn't, but ya'll NA fanboys need to cope with choking on home turf somehow, so bash the winner. Pathetic.
AppJack explained this already a year or more ago in one of his vids. MoneyMoon is a god at the mid field as obvious. Nothing flashy, just game sense. Stays close to the ball and rarely makes a mistake
I feel Monkeymoon is playing a mostly dedicated 2nd man positioning and very rarely 3rd man and it feels this is a team choice as in, his teammates know this is how it is. He will go from 1st to 2nd man, 3rd to 1st and quickly back to 2nd. He cuts to 2nd man a lot as well and as long as the team is on board it looks like it works.
People shouldn’t care about a ballchaser if every touch is gold and a possible goal. Be glad they can play offensive and score, you can sit back and defend
My teammates in diamond must be pro level then, because theyre always following directly behind me or the ball.
Well crap, now we are gonna have to prepare for pure ball-chasing even more than normal and teammates sniffing our asses in ranked as people try and emulate the GOAT.
But for real, I think MM is one of the best at boost management. When watching his POV I am always thinking I would boost in that situation, and he just doesnt. He is so good on low boost.
Without the overlay, this looks like my pov in a Champ 2 lobby. Est 2015.
Monkey to me is the modern day kaydop. They have perfect game sense, and are the least flashy player on the pitch by far.
He isn’t a ball chaser but he almost always slows play down and controls every time the ball gets to him.
That luke guy telling people to go backpost set rocket league back a good 5 years in develop
Good positioning = always in the play
Good defense/counter attack = "always" on the ball(when it is advantageous, which is very often")
Thanks Feer, now my teammates gonna go hard.
bretheren fell off 💀
he seems really good on low boost, he outplays the other team when he doesn’t have boost
No analysis on exotiik who was by far the best player the whole tourney
What Aircharged had been saying for years
Do you know if he uses less boost than most other Pros?
Mnkey is the modern turbo.
monkey moon is a bot, he has been carried by his team mates every worlds. This year he was carried by exxotik. In 2022 he was carried by extra. interesting how both their names start with an ex. No bullshit if this guy didnt have access to the caliber of players that he does we would have never heard of him. He would be gc2 max in my opinion, seeing that feer is gc1 but thats because he starts the season at c3 a few games off gc1 anyways. And only 2 worlds wins and somehow he's the goat? stop it. Zen literally took a fat shit all over bds last year and we weren't quick to judge monkey moon then, we just chalked it up to zen being the best player in the world. literally just look at the first goal of the bds vs vit series.
Yeah sure, any GC2 can catch 2600 mmr in 2s, you just need an high SSL in you bag and it's ez pz
I think MM held the record of MMR in 2's before Zen and LJ broke it. Imagine saying he's a GC lmao
I love extra but "carried by extra" makes it obvious bait. I think I would've believed you if you said Seikoo, though.
@@AlgaeGamingwhat did seikoo do against zen last year? 🤣🤣
@@jeaninternet1066 So why doesn’t monkey moon have the mmr record or is a top ones player? I’m saying his mechs are gc2 level. You can’t be a goat in 3s unless you are carrying your team. I’m sorry but he has been carried every time I’ve seen him play 3s. Would zen be the goat if he won another worlds? No. I don’t think you can call a solid role player of your team the goat. Just watch monkey moon playing 3s against champ 3s I think is what I saw he doesn’t stand out at all. For someone to be called the goat in my opinion would have to dominate and win worlds 3 years in a row the way zen won last year. Monkey moon getting carried doesn’t make me think of him as the goat. Just watch game 7 vs falcons this year at worlds, drali literally bailed him out.
I would bet its time spent behind the ball.
one mans ball chasing is anothers gegenpressing
how is the distance to teammates measured? is it the distance to the closest teammate?
I think it's not just averaged over time, but also averaged over both teammates. I wonder if it's least squared method; first instinct was it would make more sense, but on second thought it doesn't work as well for RL where it's more important how close you are to the tm8 with ball than the tm8 that's grabbing boost.
yea nrg fkt up big time letting go of turbo
his in air challenges are nasty
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I find his reflexes amazing.
yessir
These analyses change the way I play.
Is jhonnyboi talking?
I did an analysis on Monkey Moon not too long ago and out of all the pros I analysed, he's by far the smartest.
Feer we need a video on Dralii, he won Worlds on his debut season like Zen and no one talks about the poor guy.
And Monkey is a great player with even better game sense, I dont like BDS as an org but Monkey makes it easy for you to cheer them up.
REMEMBER WHEN ROGUE FK BALLCHASED LIKE CRAZY , he was considered best player that time too
Interesting stuff
Very good video
I am curious. Doesn't a short distance from teammates correlate to more double commits?
So monkey moon is like most players except good mechanics and reads
he isnt like most players, u relize how barely he is staying upfield after doin offensive, waiting for a pass.
this is clickbait, he doesn't ball chase at all, just really good at shadowing and boost management so he doesn't need to leave the play as often. This is NA fanboy cope for choking on home turf, again.
He’s anything but a ball chaser tbf
NA fanboys coping with choking on home turf again, they gotta slander the player that embarrassed them.
@@SA80TAGE 100% it’s crazy thinking mm is a ball chaser. Literally one of the slowest most methodical players in rl. They’ve gotta cope on something I guess😂
I'm gonna barf if I keep hearing anyone call a mere three's player the greatest of all time, when he's ranked 94th in one's and 9th in two's. NWPO, Zen, and RW9 are top 10 in those leagues and do extremely well as pros in three's, but MM is the greatest of all time for merely being on teams that have one world's the most? That's pretty insane.
Feer vs JohnnyBoi 1v1 Showmatch- AppJack commentary
Nobody cares dude.
@@92Carnage thank you for your comment and support, fam!
bro why did you copy johnyboi so much its uncanny
so at 6:08 it looks like he's double committing but was he actually just prejumping behind dralii to receive the touch to the corner before anyone else?
Proof no one uses “goat” right
5:45 no shit if monkey moon is first then obviously his team mates would be 2 and 3 that's literally how that stat works
not necessarily, imagine a straight line of players in which monkey moon is perfectly in the middle. A--B--C . B(Monkey Moon) is on average 2 dashes away from his teammates. but A is on average 3 dashes away from his teammates (he is 2 away from B, and 4 away from C).
So it's possible to have teammates who aren't as good in this stat (although unlikely). In fact even though BDS were #1,#2,#3 in many LANs there were tons of examples where they weren't and had other players scattered in between them. But I think the fact that Monkey Moon is more often than not #1 in this stat, we can assume he is probably doing the heavy lifting for his teammates in this stat.
At the same time his teammates could ruin this stat for him, by separating from each other as much as possible so its hard for him to stay between both.
I think this stat ultimately though speaks to how Monkey Moon likes to play, but also how his teams often play.
Interesting maybe they have some sort of game plan where them sticking together is essential for their success. I’d like to see teams exploit this a bit more catching them over committing. I wonder if there’s a correlation between their average distance to each other and their probability of winning.