remember chris was a 24h of lemans racer, sharing a porsche gt2 with walter röhrl. this guy is not just about sliding roadlegal supercars for youtube videos or just another "new" topgear presenter. this dude is/was an actual racing driver, and not a bad one if you believe what Walter Röhrl says about him. seeing him being so overwhelmed with that f1 car just shows how much skill even a "mediocre" f1 driver must have.
The dude wasn't taking racing that seriously back in 2008. He didn't enter LeMans until 2010, and the GT series until 2016... He's a good driver, but he only did like 2 races a year until 2014, then he started getting into it and doing 5+ races a year. If he drove it now after all that experience, it would be a completely different story than this in 2008.
@@killerhurtalot Right, also it is about familiarity, it he got a chance to drive it, every day for a year or two, I'm pretty sure it would become a piece of cake to push it to the limit. Humans are surprisingly adaptable given time and resources.
@@satellite964 completely moot point. No one gets to drive an F1 car every day for a year or two. That's like saying if I could play tennis 24 hours a day, 7 days a week I'd be as good as Roger Federer.
He speaks in the same super frightened way as Richard Hammond on the Renault F1. Even for people used to fast cars this is just a big scary monster. I'd love to drive one someday.
I am impressed with Chris Harris driving skills, the car came out from under him so fast and so easily there just wasn't any time to even react let alone think about reacting, just goes to show F1 drivers are pure zombies because they don't think about it they just do it!
They just get a lot of practice. With enough practice many enthusiasts could drive an F1 car at let's say 10 seconds per lap slower compared to the real drivers. That's essentially what Taki Inoue was.
@@sam21462 I _suspect_ they anticipate the car oversteering. Considering they are repeating the same lap and thus the same corners, it is reasonable to think that if the car was at the very edge during a corner, during this lap, and the driver feels it, they can anticipate some oversteer during the same corner, next lap. Please note, I am not claiming it is _easy_ I am only saying that there are many many factors, which we as plain mortals do not know, some of which make things _easier_ (and of course some of which make things harder)
traction control on 9 and still so sensitive. you have to have feather foot in brain traction control out of turns to drive the f1 fast. mad respect to the old school no aid drivers like senna. MAD RESPECT!
+Mads Max You've got to find the limit, be comfortable at it, then push it. They've spent plenty of time building up to this level, like anything the best ways are always organic
When I think of Chris Harris, I think of someone with a TON of experience with fast cars..... the fact he reacts like this, shows the level of performance these machines are capable of. I would react the way he does if I got to drive a 911 turbo, lol...
Energy is conserved; which means that the energy created at the engine must be the same amount of energy at the drive axle(s) (in reality some energy is used to turn the gearbox and differential but we'll ignore them on both cars so it makes no difference to the calculations). This means that by using the gear ratios we can calculate the torque at the drive axle(s) which when calculated against RPM will give the same HP value.
I think the most "incredible" thing about this video is the difference between a talented driver and a F1 Driver. Whereas, Chris Harris was early braking, feathering the throttle through the corners and only really caning it on the straights, the F1 guys are "on it" 100% of the lap ... Ecellent stuff indeed.
This guy did really well! Looked like he was getting the hang of it towards the end (minus the spin),I'm impressed. Richard Hammond couldn't hold a candle to him.
The current gearing (specific gear + Differential) of each car is... F1: 19,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 17.91 / 1 Veyron: 6,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 5.65 / 1 The torque output at the drive axle(s) for both cars in this example is therefore... F1: 203.17 * 17.91 = 3638.17ft.lbs or 4932.63Nm (1.3558 * 3638.17) Veyron: 876.21 * 5.65 = 4954.84ft.lbs or 6717.77Nm (1.3558 * 4954.84)
To those of us who have gone WOT on a Yamaha R1 in every gear, and we feel it's the fastest thing ever, we need to ponder a formula 1 car. These things are almost double the power to weight ratio, and considering rev ranges and tire sizes, they are. To drive a Formula 1 car is to dine on honeydew and drink the milk of paradise.
See part one. A hand operated pedal situated below the upshift pedal on the steering wheel. I salute Chris Harris. He did well. It must be a mind boggling reference point shifting awesome experience to drive an F1 car...
Mr. Harris have actually also done proper racing. If you look back at Richard Hammond, Hamster, He was also scared to bits when he sat himself in a F1 car. You really can not compare a Formula 1 car to anything else out there. It's over 1,3 hp per Kilo for crying out loud! Compare that to something else that is quick like nothing else on the street. A Veyron has 0,5 hp per kilo. Whatever it is that you are driving, Formula 1 is in a completely different league.
The torque output at the drive axle(s) for both cars in this example is therefore... Car 1: 100 * 2.83 (gear ratio) = 283ft.lbs or 383.34Nm (1.3558 * 283) Car 2: 100 * 4.71 (gear ratio) = 471ft.lbs or 638.91Nm (1.3558 * 471) Proof: 283 * 1061.03 / 5252 = 57.12 (the original HP output of the Car 1) As you can see, even though both engines produce the same torque, car 2 has more torque at the drive wheels and will therefore accelerate faster.
The current gearing (specific gear + Differential) of each car is... Car 1: 3,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 2.83 / 1 Car 2: 5,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 4.71 / 1 As I said before we'll assume that both cars are at peak power at this speed. Horsepower is a measure of energy.
@SupaSix1 actually ferrari offer a service that wont cost too many millions. after buying the car -you can get a 2000 schumacher car for around 1.5million they charge 5000 euros a year to transport and look after the car which is quite reasonable. they also provide a team of mechanics included in this price although there are maintenance costs which vary according to age and how well its looked after.
Seeing the F1 drivers racing on Monaco's narrow streets with those unbelievable freaky machines is... waooh... When you realise that, you gotta RESPECT all of them (even the underdogs like Chandock or Di grassi...), no matter what you think of each one of them...
I find that when i am faced with a tense situation, it really does help when you swear...This being you're first time behind the wheel of an F1, you did a pretty damn awsome job chris
look at the tire, theres smoke, thats how warm it is! Dont take the blame for the 2nd spi chris, theres was ice right in front of the car that couldnt be avoided, you can see its reflection at 5:38
Proof: 3638.17 * 1061.03 / 5252 = 735 (the original HP output of the F1 car) Yes the Veyron's drive torque is still greater but it is only 1.36 times greater than the F1 car. The final stuff... Force = Torque / r (in this case, the distance from centre of axle to the contact patch)
Even if its "only" worth 375,000 pounds. You have to add in all the maintenance that comes in for a F1 car. And doesn't one of those engines last only a few week or so? (When used on a track). Because it is all built to be as light and give as much power as possible.
Didnt seem like the traction control was enabled at all. Typically there is a distinct sound when the TC is working, and it wasn't here. Also those appear to be the widest front tires ever.
Don't forget that £375K converts to $614,025USD today. ;) A little research seems to show that the cost of a single car is around that range. It's all the backup parts and team, training etc overhead that adds up into the millions. (Admittedly I know basically nothing about any of this.)
It's a huge challenge to drive an F1 car, whether you're skilled like Chris Harris or a super driver like Martin Brundle. Chris did very well for that much power on a damp and cold track! I've been driving F1 cars for 20+ years and every event is still a huge thrill!
he passed from the exact same point on every lap, i don't think there was any ice there, he just opened the throttle too early, too much or both. but i agree about the cold, in other videos like that, i see the teams are using rain tyres to help the amateur drivers warm them easier
it`s even astonishing sometimes when you look at the time between the 1st guy on the grid and the last and you realise that there is about 3 seconds difference lol :-/ those guys are just Amazing
@bison6661 -- you're right its really not bad ... keep in mind this F1 car is about 10 years old and didn't win any accolades (Jaguar F1) -- if you want one of Schumi Ferrari's WDC winning machines it runs around $2 million 0_0
And in acceleration: the 2.4L V8 F1 cars hit 186mph in 8.5 seconds, which is 6 seconds faster than the standard Veyron. You'd need an unfeasibly long road for the Veyron to eventually reign in an F1 car. On anything but a 5 mile arrow straight road, the F1 car makes the Veyron feel like a Mazda 2, just like he said.
F1 on ice and only spun twice. Thats pretty amazing considering its your first time. That first spin though he tried to drift for all the glory. If he did thats instant senna status.
A quick Google search got me some figures to work with so here goes... Ferrari F1 (Tipo 056): 735BHP @ 19,000RPM Bugatti Veyron: 1001BHP @ 6,000RPM I've used peak power just because figures are easier to find but to help you I've calculated the torque output of both engines at their peak power RPM's. Ferrari F1 (Tipo 056): 735 * 5252 / 19,000 = 203.17ft.lbs Bugatti Veyron: 1001 = 1001 *5252 / 6,000 = 876.21ft.lbs
Well yea, I realize a lot of maintenance goes into the cars, but when you see that a Formula 1 steering wheel goes for $100,000 or a new engine costs over $200,000 alone, the overall price of this F1 car should be more don't you think?
Let's take two cars that make the same amount of torque but at different RPM's... Car 1: 57.12BHP @ 3,000 = 100ft.lbs Car 2: 95.20BHP @ 5,000 = 100ft.lbs You can see that they have different HP outputs but the same torque. Lets assume that both cars have a gear that when at 100km/h they are both at their peak power RPM's. And that the rolling diameter of the drive wheels is 0.5m. The drive axle(s) of both cars is therefore rotating at ((27.78m/s / (Pi * 0.5)) * 60) = 1061.03RPM's.
So yes indeed the Veyron makes significantly more torque than the F1 engine (all through the revs), but here's where it gets interesting... Let's make the same assumption regarding gearing as we did before (both at peak power at 100km/h and same wheels as before).
Hey, although richard hammond seemed to struggle a bit more, this guy wasnt pushing the car at all, he was being a complete girl with the throttle and changing up super early. Richard actually tried to drive it with a bit of pace.
Chris is pretty on the money in sports cars but the leap to an open wheeler must have been dramatic let alone an F1 machine, I know you do the HGP races how does the speed of those stack up against a more modern machine?
This is one really long you tube comment... Sorry I couldn't think of a way of explaining this without the calculations. 7mgtesup, what you're failing to realise is that regardless of the engine's torque output it is the torque at the drive wheels that is the driving force for the car. To know this you need the power figure. (Be aware that I only round figures for display. All calculations are done without rounding off)
Is the warble in the RPM of the engine i'm hearing supposed to be traction control? It would makes sense that it is since it's at the bottom of each gear right after his shifts.
Indeed. Traction control is banned in current F1 so we no longer see random skid marks or fuel cut off while going full throttle, so it's interesting to see it here in action.
I wonder how good is good, i mean jaguar when they raced in F1 a few years ago was scrap when commpared to a Ferrari, they just keep going over the edge, wonder if there is any limit? :S God I love racing :) trying to find the limits of the car is just a super and dangerous job :)
Have you guys seen the Lola B08/20 World Junior Formula Car, check out the Lola website or google it. Man that car looks nice. suppose to bring F3 technology down to an even more affordable level for a F1 training class and driver school but the cars are actually more powerful than F3 cars. Very Nice
Lol, try reading my comment again. Im saying richard hammond actually tried to drive the car close to limit in explanation for the fact he seemed to struggle more.
hes heaps slow everywhere dude, breaking so early for the corners. Interesting hearing the car blip the throttle on downshifts though, normally the drivers are so quick it gets mixed into one sound.
Comparing the Torque to Weight ratios of the two suggests that the Veyron is better (even after the F1's significantly greater reduction gearing); however the calculations show that this is not the case. Torque to Weight is a useless number without knowledge of the RPM and gearing figures (all these calculations are needed to find the truth). To be honest I'd never heard anyone use it before. However Power to weight can be used to compare two or more vehicles potential acceleration...
oh and btw sorry i forgot to put, over the quarter mile ron kiddel skyline or gp2 car. what do we think? does anyone know what a gp2 car or 1 car could do the quarter mile in? ive never really seen it happen before
Ive seen those cars driven to the limit. Just because I noticed that he isn't at the limit and I mentioned that fact, doesn't mean that I can do better. Next time try to comprehend what you've read instead of drawing B.S conclusions.
I didnt get upset. I'm just calling out your stupidity. If I saw Usain Bolt running and noticed that he wasn't running as fast as he could. If I mentioned that to someone, would that mean that I think I'm faster than Usain Bolt? You made a B.S inference. Live with it.
It doesnt even have to be the worlds best. If I see a person make a crappy play are we not allowed to comment on it? And where did I say that Chris Harris is beneath me? You just continue to dig yourself in a hole. Why are you asking me my age? I'm an adult who just schooled you on reading comprehension. I am not as good a driver as Chris Harris, I never said that I was. You really need to put down the pom-poms.
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Right now there is a bloke somewhere in his basement wearing no pants thinking "I could do that"
Jessi Hogarth best RUclips comment ever!
Yeah... but I could do that
You have a hidden camera down here or something??
remember chris was a 24h of lemans racer, sharing a porsche gt2 with walter röhrl. this guy is not just about sliding roadlegal supercars for youtube videos or just another "new" topgear presenter. this dude is/was an actual racing driver, and not a bad one if you believe what Walter Röhrl says about him. seeing him being so overwhelmed with that f1 car just shows how much skill even a "mediocre" f1 driver must have.
The dude wasn't taking racing that seriously back in 2008. He didn't enter LeMans until 2010, and the GT series until 2016... He's a good driver, but he only did like 2 races a year until 2014, then he started getting into it and doing 5+ races a year. If he drove it now after all that experience, it would be a completely different story than this in 2008.
@@killerhurtalot Right, also it is about familiarity, it he got a chance to drive it, every day for a year or two, I'm pretty sure it would become a piece of cake to push it to the limit. Humans are surprisingly adaptable given time and resources.
@@satellite964 completely moot point. No one gets to drive an F1 car every day for a year or two. That's like saying if I could play tennis 24 hours a day, 7 days a week I'd be as good as Roger Federer.
@@satellite964 Wrong you need G forces training reflexes training fitness everything it's not only driving it for a year there's more to that
@@Random63R400 G force training is only there because the drivers can't drive all year round.
"Makes the Veyron feel like a Mazda 2" ... Lol.
I miss the V10 cars, best sounding F1 cars ever
Facts
I would kill for 720p
And this was by himself. Not with a full 20+ field of cars driving around you.
He speaks in the same super frightened way as Richard Hammond on the Renault F1. Even for people used to fast cars this is just a big scary monster.
I'd love to drive one someday.
Swear away Chris.. You're driving an F1 car!! ;-)
For those who watched episode 3 of extra gear, this is the video he's talking about
Actually part one has much spin also.
I am impressed with Chris Harris driving skills, the car came out from under him so fast and so easily there just wasn't any time to even react let alone think about reacting, just goes to show F1 drivers are pure zombies because they don't think about it they just do it!
They just get a lot of practice. With enough practice many enthusiasts could drive an F1 car at let's say 10 seconds per lap slower compared to the real drivers.
That's essentially what Taki Inoue was.
If you have to think about it you are way too late.
@@sam21462 I _suspect_ they anticipate the car oversteering. Considering they are repeating the same lap and thus the same corners, it is reasonable to think that if the car was at the very edge during a corner, during this lap, and the driver feels it, they can anticipate some oversteer during the same corner, next lap. Please note, I am not claiming it is _easy_ I am only saying that there are many many factors, which we as plain mortals do not know, some of which make things _easier_ (and of course some of which make things harder)
@@GeorgeTsirosthey use their vision alignment instead of steering/rotation feel
Your first time in an F1 car and it's on an iced track, that's ballsy.
traction control on 9 and still so sensitive. you have to have feather foot in brain traction control out of turns to drive the f1 fast. mad respect to the old school no aid drivers like senna. MAD RESPECT!
+Mads Max and for the current set of drivers too traction control is banned.
Purplurple e really? that is legit then
+Mads Max You've got to find the limit, be comfortable at it, then push it. They've spent plenty of time building up to this level, like anything the best ways are always organic
Senna had traction control, modern driver don't.
Now Chris imagine driving this thing full throttle on the streets of Monaco....and there you have ina nutshell what is driving
at least he got the racing lines and apexes right. thats an achievement in itself
he was ones a Racer
I so miss the sound of the V10 era :(
Respect for F1 drivers, these cars are otherworldly compared even compared to supercars and hypercars, never mind the ordinary cars we all drive.
that sound is W-O-N-D-E-R-F-U-L!!!
When I think of Chris Harris, I think of someone with a TON of experience with fast cars..... the fact he reacts like this, shows the level of performance these machines are capable of.
I would react the way he does if I got to drive a 911 turbo, lol...
Without a doubt my favorite 240p video of all time!
Steam - dampness of the grass evaporating due to the heat of the tyres.
Energy is conserved; which means that the energy created at the engine must be the same amount of energy at the drive axle(s) (in reality some energy is used to turn the gearbox and differential but we'll ignore them on both cars so it makes no difference to the calculations). This means that by using the gear ratios we can calculate the torque at the drive axle(s) which when calculated against RPM will give the same HP value.
@KieranMatthews626 You are right, he can't complete a lap.
In this video he completed well over TEN laps.
You are a genius.
I think the most "incredible" thing about this video is the difference between a talented driver and a F1 Driver. Whereas, Chris Harris was early braking, feathering the throttle through the corners and only really caning it on the straights, the F1 guys are "on it" 100% of the lap ... Ecellent stuff indeed.
BIG BALLS! What a monster of a car.
@ 2:44 best line of the video! Brilliant effort mate! Living the dream!
This guy did really well! Looked like he was getting the hang of it towards the end (minus the spin),I'm impressed. Richard Hammond couldn't hold a candle to him.
I was breathing as hard as Chris by the end of this video.
The current gearing (specific gear + Differential) of each car is...
F1: 19,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 17.91 / 1
Veyron: 6,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 5.65 / 1
The torque output at the drive axle(s) for both cars in this example is therefore...
F1: 203.17 * 17.91 = 3638.17ft.lbs or 4932.63Nm (1.3558 * 3638.17)
Veyron: 876.21 * 5.65 = 4954.84ft.lbs or 6717.77Nm (1.3558 * 4954.84)
To those of us who have gone WOT on a Yamaha R1 in every gear, and we feel it's the fastest thing ever, we need to ponder a formula 1 car. These things are almost double the power to weight ratio, and considering rev ranges and tire sizes, they are. To drive a Formula 1 car is to dine on honeydew and drink the milk of paradise.
See part one. A hand operated pedal situated below the upshift pedal on the steering wheel.
I salute Chris Harris. He did well. It must be a mind boggling reference point shifting awesome experience to drive an F1 car...
Mr. Harris have actually also done proper racing. If you look back at Richard Hammond, Hamster, He was also scared to bits when he sat himself in a F1 car.
You really can not compare a Formula 1 car to anything else out there. It's over 1,3 hp per Kilo for crying out loud! Compare that to something else that is quick like nothing else on the street. A Veyron has 0,5 hp per kilo.
Whatever it is that you are driving, Formula 1 is in a completely different league.
Life changing experience right there for Chris.
I like this guy's style. He shows appreciation and gives credit where it's due instead of just insulting the manufacturer.
Thanks for the reply Bud, you have a unique insight and its great you share it with other fans.
The torque output at the drive axle(s) for both cars in this example is therefore...
Car 1: 100 * 2.83 (gear ratio) = 283ft.lbs or 383.34Nm (1.3558 * 283)
Car 2: 100 * 4.71 (gear ratio) = 471ft.lbs or 638.91Nm (1.3558 * 471)
Proof: 283 * 1061.03 / 5252 = 57.12 (the original HP output of the Car 1)
As you can see, even though both engines produce the same torque, car 2 has more torque at the drive wheels and will therefore accelerate faster.
@4:30-4:36 made Chris Harris speechless
The current gearing (specific gear + Differential) of each car is...
Car 1: 3,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 2.83 / 1
Car 2: 5,000 (engine speed) / 1061.03 (axle speed) = 4.71 / 1
As I said before we'll assume that both cars are at peak power at this speed. Horsepower is a measure of energy.
Front tires smoking and its 1 degree out.
+nbookie I'm guessing it's the brakes that are smoking
@@KKJezze yes brakes
@SupaSix1 actually ferrari offer a service that wont cost too many millions. after buying the car -you can get a 2000 schumacher car for around 1.5million they charge 5000 euros a year to transport and look after the car which is quite reasonable. they also provide a team of mechanics included in this price although there are maintenance costs which vary according to age and how well its looked after.
i wish i had the talent and the guts to do what Chris is doing! Respect!
Seeing the F1 drivers racing on Monaco's narrow streets with those unbelievable freaky machines is... waooh... When you realise that, you gotta RESPECT all of them (even the underdogs like Chandock or Di grassi...), no matter what you think of each one of them...
its amazing for him to be able to do that on his first time in an F! car. Very impressed!!!
I find that when i am faced with a tense situation, it really does help when you swear...This being you're first time behind the wheel of an F1, you did a pretty damn awsome job chris
look at the tire, theres smoke, thats how warm it is! Dont take the blame for the 2nd spi chris, theres was ice right in front of the car that couldnt be avoided, you can see its reflection at 5:38
Proof: 3638.17 * 1061.03 / 5252 = 735 (the original HP output of the F1 car)
Yes the Veyron's drive torque is still greater but it is only 1.36 times greater than the F1 car. The final stuff...
Force = Torque / r (in this case, the distance from centre of axle to the contact patch)
was wondering why it was only 240p until i saw the upload date, 10 years ago, wow : )
Great drive dude..You hammered it unlike most in the past I have witnessed attempt the impossible,,,, Well done Maestro!
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aaaaaahhhh, that sound. 3 liters and 10 cylinders of pure epicness
A british website sell some prototype F1 cars from 70 grand (well that one's sold, but there are still a few a low prices around 150 grand).
Been watching Chris forever, that’s the 1st time I’ve ever heard a “ fucking hell” from Chris. Brilliant!
Even if its "only" worth 375,000 pounds. You have to add in all the maintenance that comes in for a F1 car.
And doesn't one of those engines last only a few week or so? (When used on a track). Because it is all built to be as light and give as much power as possible.
Didnt seem like the traction control was enabled at all. Typically there is a distinct sound when the TC is working, and it wasn't here. Also those appear to be the widest front tires ever.
You can hear him getting braver as the video goes on. Great experience.
Chris Harris you are a formula one driver! You were improving with each lap! Yeah!!!!!
Don't forget that £375K converts to $614,025USD today. ;)
A little research seems to show that the cost of a single car is around that range. It's all the backup parts and team, training etc overhead that adds up into the millions.
(Admittedly I know basically nothing about any of this.)
I loved this and I'm a big Chris Harris fan check out how late he is on brakes as the laps go by. Good job CH....
It's a huge challenge to drive an F1 car, whether you're skilled like Chris Harris or a super driver like Martin Brundle. Chris did very well for that much power on a damp and cold track! I've been driving F1 cars for 20+ years and every event is still a huge thrill!
he passed from the exact same point on every lap, i don't think there was any ice there, he just opened the throttle too early, too much or both.
but i agree about the cold, in other videos like that, i see the teams are using rain tyres to help the amateur drivers warm them easier
it`s even astonishing sometimes when you look at the time between the 1st guy on the grid and the last and you realise that there is about 3 seconds difference lol :-/ those guys are just Amazing
@xdemon123 I suppose the track could be colder than the air, but unless that's the case I doubt water would freeze above 0°C...
@bison6661 -- you're right its really not bad ... keep in mind this F1 car is about 10 years old and didn't win any accolades (Jaguar F1) -- if you want one of Schumi Ferrari's WDC winning machines it runs around $2 million 0_0
And in acceleration: the 2.4L V8 F1 cars hit 186mph in 8.5 seconds, which is 6 seconds faster than the standard Veyron. You'd need an unfeasibly long road for the Veyron to eventually reign in an F1 car. On anything but a 5 mile arrow straight road, the F1 car makes the Veyron feel like a Mazda 2, just like he said.
F1 on ice and only spun twice. Thats pretty amazing considering its your first time. That first spin though he tried to drift for all the glory. If he did thats instant senna status.
A quick Google search got me some figures to work with so here goes...
Ferrari F1 (Tipo 056): 735BHP @ 19,000RPM
Bugatti Veyron: 1001BHP @ 6,000RPM
I've used peak power just because figures are easier to find but to help you I've calculated the torque output of both engines at their peak power RPM's.
Ferrari F1 (Tipo 056): 735 * 5252 / 19,000 = 203.17ft.lbs
Bugatti Veyron: 1001 = 1001 *5252 / 6,000 = 876.21ft.lbs
Chris, u got balls of Steele, and you did pretty good despite 2spinouts. That car looks intimidating. Props to you.
Fun fact: Webber once finished a GP after throwing up in his helmet (food poisoning) halfway through the race. Talk about not losing focus.
'I shouldn't swear' LOL.
Well yea, I realize a lot of maintenance goes into the cars, but when you see that a Formula 1 steering wheel goes for $100,000 or a new engine costs over $200,000 alone, the overall price of this F1 car should be more don't you think?
Let's take two cars that make the same amount of torque but at different RPM's...
Car 1: 57.12BHP @ 3,000 = 100ft.lbs
Car 2: 95.20BHP @ 5,000 = 100ft.lbs
You can see that they have different HP outputs but the same torque.
Lets assume that both cars have a gear that when at 100km/h they are both at their peak power RPM's. And that the rolling diameter of the drive wheels is 0.5m. The drive axle(s) of both cars is therefore rotating at ((27.78m/s / (Pi * 0.5)) * 60) = 1061.03RPM's.
So yes indeed the Veyron makes significantly more torque than the F1 engine (all through the revs), but here's where it gets interesting...
Let's make the same assumption regarding gearing as we did before (both at peak power at 100km/h and same wheels as before).
Hey, although richard hammond seemed to struggle a bit more, this guy wasnt pushing the car at all, he was being a complete girl with the throttle and changing up super early. Richard actually tried to drive it with a bit of pace.
Chris is pretty on the money in sports cars but the leap to an open wheeler must have been dramatic let alone an F1 machine, I know you do the HGP races how does the speed of those stack up against a more modern machine?
This is one really long you tube comment... Sorry I couldn't think of a way of explaining this without the calculations.
7mgtesup, what you're failing to realise is that regardless of the engine's torque output it is the torque at the drive wheels that is the driving force for the car. To know this you need the power figure. (Be aware that I only round figures for display. All calculations are done without rounding off)
7mgtesup, it also only ways just over half a ton, so it has a torque to weight ratio of 500lbs/ft per tonne! Not a clever comment was it?!!
Much more candid and interesting than Richard 'over-pronounce everything, everyday's Christmas, please adopt me' Hammond's excursion in an F1 car.
Is the warble in the RPM of the engine i'm hearing supposed to be traction control? It would makes sense that it is since it's at the bottom of each gear right after his shifts.
Indeed. Traction control is banned in current F1 so we no longer see random skid marks or fuel cut off while going full throttle, so it's interesting to see it here in action.
My apologies, im mistaken, a V10 it is, even so harris wasnt exactly pushing the boundries of grip!
Does indeed make Hammond's effort look rather pedestrian lol.Good job Chris!
He definitely got scared of the throttle after the first spin :-)
I would like to try and see if I could do better.
You can in sweden, for about 1,500£
Shud be some places in england they offer public people that also?
what rpm is redline?
+J Cortez It's older than that, it has traction control.
+TennisNick 2004 cars had traction control
in race trim 17,000
When he spun it I think he actually slipped on a patch of ice. Not his fault entirely.
A brand new BMW F1 is on sale in Sweden for 950,000£.
I wonder how good is good, i mean jaguar when they raced in F1 a few years ago was scrap when commpared to a Ferrari, they just keep going over the edge, wonder if there is any limit? :S God I love racing :) trying to find the limits of the car is just a super and dangerous job :)
Have you guys seen the Lola B08/20 World Junior Formula Car, check out the Lola website or google it.
Man that car looks nice. suppose to bring F3 technology down to an even more affordable level for a F1 training class and driver school but the cars are actually more powerful than F3 cars.
Very Nice
Can you have 6 Stars? Very nice work autocar.
Lol, try reading my comment again. Im saying richard hammond actually tried to drive the car close to limit in explanation for the fact he seemed to struggle more.
WOW ! Look how narrow the track of front suspension! 😎😎
Mad respect, props to all true drivers. Go standard or go home. Sell your auto and get a stick.
Can really see the lap times improving lap after lap.
"you're sitting so low and you travel so fast", well, that's why you were asked if you knew the way round the track!
hes heaps slow everywhere dude, breaking so early for the corners. Interesting hearing the car blip the throttle on downshifts though, normally the drivers are so quick it gets mixed into one sound.
Comparing the Torque to Weight ratios of the two suggests that the Veyron is better (even after the F1's significantly greater reduction gearing); however the calculations show that this is not the case. Torque to Weight is a useless number without knowledge of the RPM and gearing figures (all these calculations are needed to find the truth). To be honest I'd never heard anyone use it before. However Power to weight can be used to compare two or more vehicles potential acceleration...
oh and btw sorry i forgot to put, over the quarter mile ron kiddel skyline or gp2 car.
what do we think? does anyone know what a gp2 car or 1 car could do the quarter mile in? ive never really seen it happen before
Chris Harris find out that his driving skills are light years behind that of an F1 Driver. LOL!!
once in a while. It happens to the best...
Agreed. Car is a beast.
lol, was he on the limiter at 1:25 ?
Hahaha I love his response when he spins "bollocks" ah ha ha ha ha. Such a character! And great driver.
I thought Chris did really well. He was getting faster and faster...until he finally spun out of course lol
He isn't even driving it anywhere near its potential.
Did I say that I could?
I never implied that I can do better. You are reaching.
Ive seen those cars driven to the limit. Just because I noticed that he isn't at the limit and I mentioned that fact, doesn't mean that I can do better. Next time try to comprehend what you've read instead of drawing B.S conclusions.
I didnt get upset. I'm just calling out your stupidity. If I saw Usain Bolt running and noticed that he wasn't running as fast as he could. If I mentioned that to someone, would that mean that I think I'm faster than Usain Bolt? You made a B.S inference. Live with it.
It doesnt even have to be the worlds best. If I see a person make a crappy play are we not allowed to comment on it? And where did I say that Chris Harris is beneath me? You just continue to dig yourself in a hole. Why are you asking me my age? I'm an adult who just schooled you on reading comprehension. I am not as good a driver as Chris Harris, I never said that I was. You really need to put down the pom-poms.
The National circuit seems so short in an F1