TRADE! Dejounte Murray traded to the New Orleans Pelicans | Is Brandon Ingram trade next?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- BREAKING NEWS as Dejounte Murray is traded to the New Orleans Pelicans to be the starting point guard alongside Zion Williamson. Jake Madison breaks down why this was a steal for the Pels and how Murray fits in New Orleans. Plus, this means it's even more likely that Brandon Ingram gets traded and that move could make the Pelicans title contenders in the NBA this season. Plus, there is something pretty funny with this trade and the Los Angeles Lakers.
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CJ off the bench with Jose, Hawkins
Or CJ as 2 guard
I like Murray, Hawk, Herb, Trey, Zion small ball lineup at alot of times. Bring in the new defensive center (hopefully) into the starting lineup when needed. Trade Ingram and CJ. Jose/Ryan/Missi/Naji off the bench
Lets look at CJ's 2023-24 stats: FG% = .459; 3PT% = .429 (career high); FT% = .827; RPG = 4.3; APG = 4.6; SPG = .9; BPG = .6 (career high); PPG = 20.0. Now explain to me why you want to bench a starter with 10 years of NBA experience & who has won a playoff series?
@@coreyrubin5290 sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I don't think that CJ is a bad player I actually like him. I feel like he will be an manu ginobili
that little ass lineup 😂 Pelicans fans are DELUSIONAL… DJ is a good pickup but this team as currently constructed doesn’t mesh well! Listen to you. You’re excited about a midget bench lineup
I am so pumped about this trade. I think Murray is a better fit on this team. Murray Zion Herb Trey and whoever else at center. Defense is going to be gooood. Murray is an above average defender I feel put that with Herb and Trey man this is going to be good
I been told people do not go for Trae because he lacks defense. Dejounte Murray does not lack defense while being an offensive upgrade. THIS WAS A VERY SMART TRADE!!
I know we give you a hard time sometimes, Jake, but you do a really good job. No cap
Every time!!!!!!!
I told you....
POINT GUARD!! POINT GUARD!!! POINT GUARD!!!
Now go get Isaiah Hartenstein.
BI ain't going anywhere!
@@edwardprofit4537 I think (and hope) you are right!!
@@edwardprofit4537Shid BI want 52 million, he don’t give the front office a price they like he’s a gunner.
@@edwardprofit4537 😒🤣
I'm shocked the Pels had a decent draft, got a deal done and even went shoplifting
SHOPLIFTING, I like 👍🏽 that.
😂
Cant say i wont miss Nance
Yeah, Nance was pretty good for us.
who`s going to replace him, there`s just one center
@@gregoryguidry4958 and now JV is gone
Why would CJ MCOLLUM start next to Dejounte Murray??? Why not start Trey Murphy & Herbert Jones as your 2 & 3?? Trey offers way more 2 way Athletic versatile ability than CJ… just bring him off the bench as a 6th man.. 🤷🏾♂️ just saying, a lineup of Dejounte, Herb, Trey, & Zion would be a headache to play in a juggernaut western conference..
Lets look at CJ's 2023-24 stats: FG% = .459; 3PT% = .429 (career high); FT% = .827; RPG = 4.3; APG = 4.6; SPG = .9; BPG = .6 (career high); PPG = 20.0. Now explain to me why you want to bench a starter with 10 years of NBA experience & who has won a playoff series? I agree TM3 needs to get some significant playing time but like him or not, CJ is their veteran leader who is a productive player!
@@coreyrubin5290 Defense, age and fit. If you have Murray, Herb and Murphy as the 1, 2 and 3, those are long athletic players who can guard 1-4 and switch. C.J. certainly has value, but the Pelicans should be open to trading him if they can get another long athletic and younger 3 and D player or a center.
Big Facts 👏🏻
@@Don-md6wn I agree with what you are saying that the best move would be to be in the position to trade CJ for a younger long and athletic 3 & D player/center, but I was responding to the comment of him still being on the team and coming off the bench which makes no sense to me until TM3 shows that he can be more consistent and aggressive during clutch time. He tends to disappears when he is needed to step up and take over a game. CJ will at least try even if he may miss those shots!
I think cj might come off the bench with good minutes
I hope you’re all over the moon. Outside of Edwards and maybe Jrue, Dejounte is the best two way guard in the league. Dude took on the Celtics twice last year and HANDLED them. You guys are building a great roster.
This was a STEAL!!! 🎉🤑
I love the trade we can keep b.i and J.V .. with herb, murry ,bi, Zion, and JV we can switch better
Jv us a free agent
Jv literally didn’t start 3rd quarters because of his deficiencies. Hes cooked
JV ain’t it
Hell nah BI gotta go!
Get KAT too.
KAT, Z , Herb , TMIII, Murray
KAT went ghost in the offs just like B.I. Idk about that one.
Do u really want that contract?
KAT resigned with the Timberwolves
@@ilovekaiykoexactly. 50 mill + for kat? no thanks.
Kat a choke artist
What a trade
Geaux Pels ⚜️
Nah Pels would be absolutely ridiculous to let go of BI instead of CJ
Yes trade CJ move Hawkins as starter 🎉
@@brandonleemoss yes man you see the vision
Dejounte is a good dude but him and Trae just didn’t fit and if you have to choose between the two is Trae Young hands down. Hawks now have picks in the next 3 drafts again and added on a poa defender which is what the hawks need next to Trae Young. The Trae Young will make the offense work but they had to get better on D. Adding a former Lottery pick that can do that along with replacing the picks they lost in the Murray trade was worth it. Win win
now we need to resign bi and get a good center and some more bench pieces
Troy brown & kelly olynk
I’d add mo bamba
@@sophalmen1989 u need to study more hoops bro
Missi
@@netopierre3477 no way we starting a rookie lol
Larry Nance was 6'9. If they keep BI, why not turn Trey Murphy into best 3 pt shooting center in NBA history?
I think this is a big move because we didn’t have to move Ingram to get Murray. Otherwise I’m not sure this moves the needle too much. We still need a big, no way the rookie C we got is going to be able to start game 1 without getting completely outclassed.
Couldn’t help but laugh at the unintentional disrespect for spurs 😂 everytime jake tried to refer to them just forgets the name of the team
Cj sitting there listening to the panel of ESPN talking shit about the Pels should motivate him I hope
it should motivate griffin to trade him, he set up there smiling like a politician. he gotta go
Appreciate you Jake! I still listen every day to you
See if we can get a starting center for cj, extend trey and resign Ingram to a team friendly deal. At that point we are contenders
Quit talking silly
@@theetruth8626thats exactly what will happen tho
@@mont-doggBeats no it's not there's a salary cap for a reason. I guarantee you New Orleans trade Ingram to Philly for draft picks. That was the whole reason for the Murray trade.
@@theetruth8626 i guarantee you they don’t but im glad you mentioned the salary cap. It goes up either next year or the following year and once Ingram resigns his new contract doesn’t kick in until then. Cj is 32 years old and making 33 million dollars pelicans are not keeping that dude for two more years. I know you hate Ingram but ain’t nobody about to make dumb trades like you suggested because you hate ingram for no reason. And Murray and ingram are best friends off court. They could have played in Atlanta together and the pelicans could have had trae young but they specifically wanted Murray. Gotta keep up and pay attention and quit dreaming about a world where Zion gets everything built around him 😂
@theetruth8626 yall sounding like Barkley with that guarantees bs and was wrong 100% of the time😅 so keep guaranting that BI will be traded 😂😂and Valanclunas will be our center 😂😂
Wishing Larry Nance the best. Great guy!
The Pels pretty much gave up some magic beans for Murray ! It’s nice to be on the winning side of a trade
I say to all of the CJ McCollum haters who say that he needs to come off of the bench that you people really must don't know what you are talking about! Lets simply look at CJ's 2023-24 stats: FG% = .459; 3PT% = .429 (career high); FT% = .827; RPG = 4.3; APG = 4.6; SPG = .9; BPG = .6 (career high); PPG = 20.0. Now explain to me why you want to bench a starter with 10 years of NBA experience & who has won a playoff series? Just b/c he's not younger, flashy, and flamboyant? I agree that Willie Green needs to get bothTM3 and Hawkins more significant, quality playing time but it is not CJ's fault that Willie Green sat TM3 most of his rookie year or that he sat Hawkins a lot during his rookie year. Whether you like him or not, CJ is their veteran leader who is still a productive NBA player! The stats don't lie. The team has lost Larry Nance, Jr. and about to lose JV so the answer is not putting CJ on the bench. He's the veteran who needs to lead this young team. Zion and BI aren't there yet. TM3, Herb, and Hawkins aren't ready for that responsibility. I wonder do people really think before they say things!!!
it was a great trade but Dyson and that Lakers pick will be missed
You are betting Lakers going to implode like they did in 2022. But that's not going to happen. Even if Lakers endup as 10th seed they would have enough wins so that will put the pick out of Lottery. Pels fleeced Hawks, gave two non lottery picks for a star caliber player under contract for next 4 years in a good contract
We’ll get over it lmaoo
Dyson really isn't a big miss. He is so broken on offense that his defense is a wash.
It also forces Hawkins and 1nd rounder Antonio on the court. Shooters around Zion. This is currently an offensive league. 8+ teams were setting offensive sive ppg records last year. Scoring is needed.
have you watched dyson daniels play basketball? that is not a rhetorical question; that is a genuine inquiry.
@@ElijahSchoonover Hell yeah i watched him check Wemby 1 game and shut Him down. Atl wanted Him for a reason. SMDH
Murray takes those mid range but he has a better handle, better playmaker, takes more 3s, better defender, and hisncontrat is half of what BI is seeking. If we could get BI for 25 mil we would gladly keep him
I like it, a good start, but how does Ingram and even Ceej, fit....more trades coming I hope....🏀🇬🇧
CeeJ? Why spell it like that?
Big pickup and fairly small give away. GEAUX PELS
If I could turn BI into an elite center and a 3-d wing... this team would almost be complete.
LETS GO!!!! FLOCK UP 💪🏾
I’ll miss Larry and Dyson but DJ welcome
In what smart basketball world where CJ should start over TM3 or Herb ???????????????
Trade BI and CJ and go get Kat. Murray, Zion, Trey, Herb, and Kat! Bring Reeves and Hawkins off the bench along with the rookie Center! Jake, help me understand why the Pels so high on CJ? He have not showed up for a playoff, since Portland. Zion need to come in at 260 and under and he want get injured again!
A phenomenonal trade would NOT have included three first rounders (counting Daniels). It also wouldn't include a starter for Atlanta, a versatile vet, and developing front courter. Depending on how Murray works out, it's a good trade, just not better than that.
Larry is a sad lost just like Josh Hart was im still going to root for those guys
I'm with you.
Move CJ to a 6th man role.
PG: Dejounte Murray
SG: Trey Murphy
SF Herb Jones
PF: Zion Williamson
C: ?
Nice trade ….we lost potential for reality…..Dyson u can BE A BEAST fight hard ……
Mo Wagner would be a nice pickup but I highly doubt Orlando lets him go. I believe Thomas Bryant could be nice cheap option for this team, decant rim runner, hustle guy and could step out an hit a couple occasional 3s. Drew Eubanks would be a good choice as well he shot 38% from 3 last season
I know they're not going to move CJ to 6th man, but Dejounte, Herb, Trey, Zion, Allen/whoever would be strong on both sides of the ball.
I’m seeing how it’s a possibility BI might stay now seeing how we’re trying to improve the team, and I have soft spot for BI (and I got gifted his city edition jersey after the season ended), but I don’t see how he fits well with this team going forward
I never really followed Dejounte Murray as a player but have heard that he is a decent to slightly above average player???? Also I am surprised to hear the trading of Dyson Daniels. He is still very young and I thought they were very on him for his defense. What does the trading of Larry Nance Jr. mean for Jonas?
He is a boarder line AS. An average player is someone like Jose or Naji. He has also been forced to play SG on the Hawks when he is a true PG
@Jake, do you think theres some way the Pels can get Brook Lopez with the Bucks as a 3rd team in the Ingram deal?
Now trade Ingram and CJ for a good defensive center. Go small ball alot with Murray, Hawk, Herb, Trey, Zion. And bring in the new center and the backup Missi when needed.
Herb and Dejounte will be the best defensive guard duo in the league (with apologies to the Celtics)!!!
Very excited about this one!
Excited to hear what's next. Obviously Bi is polarizing to the fan base. I feel like it might come down to if he's willing to take less than the max. Odds are no, but if he was willing to accept less I could see them resigning him and finding a cheaper option at Center. Maybe they can move CJ's contract. Not sure. Excited to see what's next.
@@NolaBlake504 no he is polarizing to Zion stans all of us don’t feel that way. Especially people that know a little something about basketball those people that hate ingram are casual fans
Hey Jake do you think Willy Green will play the rookies this season,if so which one
Not Green
Great trade Pelicans 🎉🎉
Got this great 3pt shooter just riding the bench in Ryan. Hope he gets time next season.
been saying that toward the end of the season not with a bad coach like Green
If you trade Brandon for a center & a bench player do you necessarily have to match BI's $34 million salary? I'm asking this because if you have the $13 Mill+ could you resign Naji?
Starters would be:
Murray, Zion, CJ, Herb, Center
Bench would be:
Murphy,Jose ( unless he is included in the BI trade), Missi (if ready), Hawkins, Cheap 5, Ryan & maybe Naji
Give me your thoughts fans!
I’m a big Jordan Hawkins fan, I’m all about more playing time for the hawk. Let it fly baby!!!
Losing the Nance and Daniels depth concerns me. It'll be hard to replace them.
Didn’t lose Herb
We played our best when dyson got hurt n Alvarado started playing & Nance had a lil bit of a impact but nothing that cant be replaced
If we need a defensive center why keep JV? On paper this roster is helluva deep, you got 7 starter and bench player. If guys buy into their rolls and stay healthy. Somebody gotta win 6th man of the year award.
CJ off the bench now? Herb and DM should be an excellent defensive backcourt.
Still think CJ has to go bruh he in big decline unless he a 6th man
I am absurdly, absurdly excited by this trade and potential of this team. Whatever trades we make from here, I'm all in.
Let's freaking go!!!
Stull need another big forward and a Point guard
Why do we presume that cj starts i think herb needs to start at the 2 that backcourt would be the best inna league have cj run and score in the second unit or trade him for a big man
Can we get Mobley for BI?
That was a pretty good trade for the Pels
Wow Jake that's crazy the pelicans did and are doing what I predicted in your comments weeks ago. They dumped Nance and Daniels. And now they going after DeAndre Ayton. Dam I'm good !
They need too pair Murray up with herb
No way CJ starts over Herb Jones and look for a Lauri trade.
I can't wait for the season 😊🎉
I wonder what the people that said Dillion Brooks would not be good enough for Dejonte Murray are saying now
Im very excited about the trade. We are a better team today because of it.
Absolutely love it!!!!
I’ll take Jarrett Allen’s double double per game and call it a wrap.
Get rid of Zion while he still has value. It’s been 5 years and he’s yet to play a playoff game. And it’s NOT because we haven’t made the playoffs in 5 years. He’s a defensive mismatch liability. He’s a poor rebounder, he doesn’t shoot. And most importantly, his health… Your lineup has to be so specific around a guy who has so many downsides. It’s not smart to bank on a star draft pick. Nobody willingly wants to come here in FA. Get the most out of your assets while they have value!! It’s been 5 years, no playoff games. If he doesn’t go off this year, nobody will want him. Not even Pelicans fans
I'm just here to say Herb Jones is a starter everyday 365 24/7.. you can talk about closing lineups maybe, but Herb is gonna and should start everyday of the wk so let's cut that talk out
Great trade, but they must give minutes to Hawkins as SG.
Coaching staff is still horrible.
that`s what`s going to kill us Green can`t coach
Geaux Pels
Good trade
Every dayer!! 🇵🇭🇵🇭
Go Bryson Graham!!! Front office moves good so far.
We have 8 starters murry,cj,bi,Zion, trey, herb, JV. All starters .
BI and JV are gone for sure. Trey or CJ likely comes off the bench
@@ben1ben2ben1JV a free agent. One of CJ or BI is gone
@@ben1ben2ben1 But they should get a starting caliber player back for BI.
Bro cj will not start next year IF we keep him having cj as a starter mean Herb goes to the bench that’s not gonna happen at all. Hearing you say cj and Murray as the back court is stupid and makes my brain hurt tbh cj is more likely to be traded before B.I he might go in a sign and trade to the Knick’s for hartenstein
I think Murray makes CJ, and BI better. I know a center makes a healthy Pelicans team a contender.
Zion gets hurt often ( maybe Murray will give Zion a break on his body). Do you think a team without Zion is better with a center, or BI?
What's the chance of Naji Marshall returning?
Gonna miss DD and definitely Nance should been a couple of picks and him staying wish E J the best an we have a solid big 3 that can score and get a bucket put CJ in the second unit and development of Jhawk keep B I and JV
Sign and trade Naji to Philadelphia for Paul Reed or Houston for Jock Landale
EJ LIDELL PROLLY GONNA START FOR ATLANTA. Smh…
He needs to play it's a win for both of us 🎉
Every dayer, let's go!!!!
My opinion is if Zions game doesn’t develop from a one level scorer to at least a two level score with a consistent 3 ball this team will always struggle to find players to put around him. There’s not a lot big man who can consistently shoot 3s and to put the burden on the other 3 perimeter players to shoot 3 to cover up Zion lack of shooting isn’t going show result.
Naw having a point guard change a lot cause they can’t load up the paint if he don’t have the ball Zion good at getting in position to score off ball so it’s hard to guard we just literally haven’t had a guard since lonzo that had a good iq that’s why Zion dominated with lonzo the offense better when Zion at gotta be the point guard cause he not a point guard
Yup. The Bucks are able to make it because they hit a home run on Lopez. You literally need a center with a big body to set screens for Zion and the ability the stretch the floor. That’s why I found it funny that people complained about drafting Missi. It’s hard to find the perfect center next to Zion at least Missi can do some things right
When's the funeral? Considering Dejounte' and GTA (and don't sleep on Seabron), there's no need for 'Point Zion'.
May it RIP!!!
Ej Liddell hasn't really played for us
Thanks Sugalanta
Who cares about reeves just give minutes to Hawkins
Jeez
i would trade cj not Ingram. Sexton would be a great fit with the Pelicans.
Sexton plays great defence cj is a liability.
So the pels really are gonna bench herb for cj? Smh that aint it
God I would’ve loved to get Bam for BI, but Bam just got extended.
CJ has to go to the bench and be our 6th man
W pod
Hi Jake
Brandon Ingram to the pistons for Jaden Ivey, Isaiah Stewart, and a second round pick
Griff loves Cj lol i dont think the fan base understands that. There gonna trade bi and build around cj Murray zion 😢
Do you think we could’ve got Trae young if we wanted to?
Zero defense dude😮
now sign klay thompson then trade cj for a big
Murray Herb Trey Zion Allen would be so nice and cj off the bench.