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While the points are well taken, most judges also consider the veracity or absurdity of the points of the litigants. If the prosecutor spends so much time arguing that an action job on a trigger shows intent of the shooter’s blood thirst, the prosecutor loses credibility and just wasted his time arguing for a non-factor. The legality of the shot will always primarily be dictated by the circumstances of the unlawful aggression and the action taken by the defender subsequent to that threat, regardless of the firearm used.
I’ve always been told there are like 3 “tiers” of mods. Tier 1: cerakote, red dots, upgrades sights - probably no problems in court as they are all good mods. Tier 2: triggers, barrels and stuff like that - you might not have a problem, but you are opening yourself up to the potential for legal problems. Tier 3: “quotes” or “sayings” like “f around and find out” or “your f’d” or punisher skulls and things like that are usually a bad idea because it gives odd the “impression” you are “looking for a fight”
I'm a veteran & a licensed armed G security officer, since 2002. I own and use a few LWA, KKM & TP: True Precision model barrels. I'm not amped up over any homicide investigation or Div of Licensing agent grouse over PVD barrels, new barrels.
Anything I carry, I keep the modifications minimal. New grips, or maybe different sights. Outside that, I'm not too keen on making the change for fear of getting an overzealous prosecutor who isn't interested in getting to the truth, but only in ruining someone's life for their own personal gain.
If a self defense case ever went to trial, a lawyer told me-and this is only his experience- juries were more sympathetic, or rather give the benefit of doubt, to accused that used revolvers or traditional rifles (Garand, Henry ect). The appearance should be completely irrelevant, but suppressors or red dots (handgun or rifle) don't always do the accused any favors. *Just to reiterate, this is only one man's experience.
I currently own 8 firearms. Pistols & revolvers. Army veteran 1990s 🎗, ccw license holder. I add parts, get Cerakote but I'd agree 💯. You don't need a $4000 pistol & 24K gold magazines. Keep guns clean, carry or use factory 🚔 rounds. No hand loads, no reloaded ammunition.
correction - at the 3:30 mark Miles says "... That can go against you legally". No - it cannot. The modification may be brought up in a court room and a lawyer may try to influence a judge or jury with your modification, but if your modification, of any kind, did not make that firearm illegal to own, then you have not broken the law and as such those modification cannot be LEGALLY used against you. It is important to understand the law before making this kind of video.
Ok, I've got a different viewpoint. Simply ask the lawyer, why reducing trigger pull is bad? In fact, the reason we reduce trigger pull is so that we can shoot more accurately and make sure we hit the aggressor and not a bystander, that we get good hits so that he or she cannot continue to fight and kill me or other possible bystanders. This makes us safer, not more dangerous and I believe it can be easily demonstrated. But that's just me.
I agree, keeping your EDC firearm factory stock or as close to as possible is the way to go to avoid unnecessary troubles in case you have to go to court.
Yes & no. Do you honestly need a $4000 race gun? No but to jazz 🎷 up a gun or add grips, sights, barrels etc is not going to make you look like a death row psycho.
Ok check this out. It could be argued that any modification that makes the gun easier to accurately shoot could place the shooter in a position of more safely and effectively firing that weapon in a self defense shooting.
Attorneys are always going to look for a way to manipulate anything. Even if your gun came optics ready and you after purchasing said firearm add an optic you've now modified it. Any modification you make to your firearm needs to be with the mindset that it was made for safe operation.
Great points. New gun owners, ccw users 2024 have a TON of data, choices. The best bet is to keep sidearms simple, train, know & understand laws, deadly force. 📂 Keep firearms clean, use LE type ammunition. No fads or whiz bang gimmicks.
Hey Myles and @tacticalhyve. Question for your team would be. When should I, if ever, assist a police officer? Be it them chasing someone, struggling with suspect, or whatever. What situation should you step in and which should you completely avoid?
If the criminal has the upper hand, you could step in to assist but it might not look good in front of a jury. I'm no lawyer but it's probably best to stay out of it. Even in a red state. You never know who is going to be on that jury
I challenge anyone to find one case where firearm modification was the single deciding factor in losing a court case. Getting to court is priority ONE, proving innocence/lack of culpability depends on a good attorney. My number one responsibility and reason for EDC? To be there for my family after a “good shoot”. If it wasn’t a good shoot, I’m screwed anyway. If it was a good shoot, modifications won’t matter. If I end up in court unrighteously, either criminal or civil, I need “articulable” reasons for everything, including gun modifications, which will not be a major focus of the case. If my attorney is competent, with my coaching he should be able to explain why any modifications made the gun more reliable, accurate, faster or in any other way gave me a slight edge in defending my life. I don’t modify with signage or decorations that are silly. Everything modified has a functional purpose. Triggers are all set to 4.25-4.5#. If someone doesn’t want or need to modify their gun, that’s fine. I just don’t live my life scared of every lawyer shadow that will most likely never cross my path.
Great content. Always test your conduct by asking what would a 25 year old prosecutor and 12 non-gun owner jurors think. How does a punisher skull on your gun look to a 50 year old nurse?
The best piece of advice I've ever heard about modifying your firearm is this: Don't modify without a purpose. Be able to logically defend every mod you put on. Red dot- easier to track a moving target; lighter trigger- less chance to pull off target, etc. Think about what you're doing and have a reason for it.
I find it interesting when discussions such as this come up and the comment about modified guns, and in particular lightened triggers comes up. Since 1995, I've served as a Police Officer in one of Atlanta's more dangerous and violent suburbs with 90% of my career was in CID as either a working detective or detective/supervisor. I can't ever recall a time in the multitude of shooting investigations that I worked where there was a question about modifications to a weapon. Even at trial, I have never heard this line of questioning and my county is one of the more liberal counties in Georgia. Questions about the legality of the shoot, absolutely. Was the shooter justified in the shooting, absolutely. Was the weapon ever modified, never. By no means is my anecdote saying that it has never happened however I've never seen it and I have butted heads many times with aggressive DA's about what a suspect should and shouldn't be charged with.
I'm in central Florida, since 2000. Army veteran: MP & security officer, G. I know of murder, gun cases where the firearm was either discussed or a court jury asked to see the gun.
Note- I looked into the cases, a few recent ones: FL vs Drejka & FL vs Ward. 📂 . Ward, Bob Ward was a wealthy RE 🏘 guy who shot his wife in the face with a S&W snub .357magnum . The jury asked the judge if they could look at, check the revolver, see if it was broken or had any custom work.
The fact another peer told him to say he "seen that" when he stated he didn't see anything that didn't happen is the absolute problem with officers like him. They do not report each other for unethical behavior, they just move on or avoid that person.
There is also a factor of building a gun that is more comfortable and more accurate for a CCW. I understand that something’s may look bad/intent but also make the shooter accurate. I don’t think a hair trigger for a carry gun makes sense, your stress and Adrenalin is up you could easily mistakenly fire or miss. I build a CCW weapon that is better for me allows me to be accurate and in control….. But when purchasing a trigger I kept over 4lbs for those stressful situations and with my old ass eyes do use a dot to insure I hit what I’m aiming at
This really shouldn't be the case. The events of the conflict (was it self defense, and deadly force justified) should be the determining factors. Justice isn't a contest. It shouldn't be about winning. It should be about administering Justice. But it's not. It's become what they used to call it in the 18th century British slang: Just-Ass.
I live in a State that requires the manufacturer to submit each model of a weapon be tested and if it doesn’t meet there criteria for trigger pull etc., it is not allowed for sale. I would never modify a personal carry weapon.
Difference between a race gun and a duty gun. Amen. Way too many RUclipsrs making videos about how they changed out their triggers for a lighter one. The weight of your trigger is the last thing on your mind when in a shooting situation. Street fights are not on a firing line.
Most, not all private citizen use of force events 📂 are in the 3x3x3 Rule. That is a deadly force event will be around 3sec in length or less, at a approx range of 3yd or less(some say 3ft) with 1-3 rounds 💥 total. Few ccw events are like John Wick or Walker, Texas Ranger 🤠. Gun fights are fast, violent & stressful.
Super interesting topic, I am wondering if you install the new Glock performance trigger in your Glock would this open you up to legal questions should something occur? Most people would say you are just bringing your Glock up to a normal trigger like a Sig. and not a hair trigger.
I'm a G license security in my state, ccw user. I have a few Glock Store 3.5lb NP3 connectors on my Glocks. I don't think a jury or FDLE technician 👩🏼🔬 will flip out.
How do you feel about barrel porting/slide milling to make an integrated comp from a 3rd party manufacturer like how the firearm manufacturers make (i.e. Sig, Canik,S.W) but on a firearm that doesn't come with the option? Thinking of porting a Canik Rival S because I want the advantage of the TTI Combats compensator but the Rival still doesn't have a threaded barrel after 2 years so I figured I'd see about sending it out somewhere What companies would you recommend?
Ìf you intend to pull the trigger based upon the law, does it matter if you changed to night sights, if your hands are really small and you put a rubber grip over the grip. If your old or young and have hand problems. If the armorer changes it he is qualified. If you use hollow points that could be used against you. Your training records and the amount you shoot, with who and what training you receive. So it's not just triggers. Yes I come from police background twenty years to be exact
Just carrying and using a gun in self defense will be used against you in court. The modifications on your gun are secondary and if they save your life or others, like a light for proper identification or light trigger for accurate shots, then they are worth it and can easily be explained by a semi competent attorney. I guess everyone should carry a hammer less revolver and shoot it indiscriminately from their jacket pocket. I'm sure a prosecutor would love to point out the wild shots...
Author and cadre, legal deady force expert Mossad Ayoob said for years a DA only or spurless DA only revolver was +. The LAPD calls them neutered. 🚔 I owned 2 great DA only Beretta 96Ds.
In 30 years of LE I have been involved in 2 shootings. Thankfully the bad guy lost. You will always be sued by the family of the deceased and every aspect and I mean every aspect of your training/equipment will be analyzed to the nth degree. Keep your weapon stock and train,train,train. You will default to your training and you will not even think about the operation of your weapon. You will do as you trained. Your operation of your firearm needs to be instructive and w/o thought.
Whether it hurts you in court or not, it's highly likely that it will be taken into evidence for the duration and you'll be out your $1500+ custom gat while that goes on. Definitely suboptimal
If you can afford a $1500 modified pistol you can afford to replace it. I guess we have to tell all these gun companies to stop putting all this stuff on the guns they sell you ie: sig macro, staccato etc etc etc. They never tell you that you can counter sue the idiots that sue you if it was justified!
@@palmtack2164 Agreed. If you can afford a $1500 carry gun, you can likely afford its twin. And you likely could carry a cheaper stock gun and still prevail in another encounter.
Weapon mounted white light intended for PID? Laser that puts a dot on a target? Compensator? Ported barrel? If I were on a jury and the self defense guy had a hot rodded gun, I wouldn't take any of it into consideration. Was his life in apparent danger? If yes, it was self defense. End of fuckin story. Who gives a shit what accessories he needed on his gun?
Ask any good attorney a question about what is legal and what is not, especially in self defense law, and the answer will almost always be "it depends".
The question isn't "should I". The question is, "am I capable of leaving a gun uncustomized?" No. No I am not. But I am aware that I may have to defend this in court.
These points are valid but I also believe where you are, jurisdiction, also is as important. Liberal hellhole New York vs a conservative, pro castle and stand your ground doctrine area will have different perspectives from the police and DA.
Stock gun and local law enforcement ammo is pretty sound advice. Hopefully, putting better sights like a red-dot-type isn't used against you. It'd be nice to see Myles doing some teaching with a concealed stock pistol.
Agreed on that last part. I groan every time somebody starts teaching with their comp gun from their fancy pants comp holster. There is more to pistol shooting than USPSA matches
Lighter trigger improves accuracy. Red dot also helps with accuracy. My stock sig trigger is under 3 lbs. So how is my glock 4 lb trigger bad. By no means to hurt the reliability. Can you reference a cases where a good shoot happened and the person found guilty? I ported my gun to reduce velocity.
Though I may sympathize with the sentiment, I'll never understand people with Punisher or "F Joe Biden" engravings on their firearms. God bless should you ever have to explain yourself in a court of law.
Most cops shoot at qualifications once or twice a year. Clean their pistols once or twice a year. I train once or twice a week. I go to three courses a year. I carry plus $1,000 pistol. Either way the cops will take it and you never see it again
I think the first portion was better by saying,”it depends”. The latter became more of a nervous mother syndrome. Yes, I understand how the current atmospherics towards CCW/2a are….however… have a spine gents( aimed toward broad audience not video person’s). Even in commifornia there are counties with agencies and DA’s that will not press charges as long as the preponderance of evidence shows you acted appropriately. What also helps is being your own training cooordinator. What do I mean by this? Write a CV of your firearm training and experience. List your formal training, personal training(dry fire/range) List courses of fire and reasons/ goals in doing so. Track amount rounds fired per week or Month. If you do upgrade or change anything on your gun, why? What tesearch did you do about it? Who installed it? When did they? What verification of the upgrade did you do after the install?How many rounds were shot and. At what courses of fire etc before you carried it or made it your primRy def gun at home? See where I am going with this. Be the court expert for you about the tools you use when Q’d by detectives or whomever. Be a competent, professional and responsible American in all aspects and if the shoot is good you takeaway all doubt. We see LEO’s and have the ability to chalk talk thier scenarios to help give you an idea of what stress may be incurred during a time is life situation. Make your response to it be at the subconscious level. 🇺🇸
Would like to see some case law that shows some of these ideas. Not that i disagree but many things turn into folk lore when no one questions things. Thanks for posting great content.
If you can’t carry what you want are you really a free citizen? Don’t let fear drive the way you choose to exercise your rights. Normalize custom/modded guns.
I had painted a few front sights of my “herd” fluorescent orange, but after some careful consideration I stopped when I realized this is what the government was talking about.
I upgrade a gun made for thousands of people and since my body is mine I set gun to my hand and its my carry gun! ITS MY GUN GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO TELL ME IF I CAN UP GRADE MY PISTOL!
Show me a case other than the officer that one case. Modifications that help you hit your target are good to go this is just silly talk. P s the officer violated policy not any law and the dist cover did not cause further liability
If you owen a glock you have a duty to modify if not looking to make the glock a better gun than out the box becouse its trash out of the box and takes me 1,500 to come close to how I run my glocks don't owen the glock if you don't want to change it glocks are the best blank canvas 😎
Why didn't y'all just get a firearms instructor to give legal advice instead of a real lawyer? John from ASP seems to think that Massad Ayoob is a legal expert even though he gives advice that real lawyers contradict.
Mas has been an expert for the courts since 1979. Experts in any profession can have very different opinions. Why else would we bother allowing both the state and defense to proffer their own expert witnesses in the same matter since they are experts in the same matter?
After listening to the "Armed Attorneys" for a while if I was in a situation where I was assigned a court appointed attorney (I am talking conjecture) and they were my legal team I would be working on a plea bargain with the D.A. on my own. My opinion.
I know this is very off topic and you’re probably tired of BUDS questions but, during hell week, are you able to use the bathroom or do you have to do everything in your pants? Kinda weird but I always wondered that
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While the points are well taken, most judges also consider the veracity or absurdity of the points of the litigants. If the prosecutor spends so much time arguing that an action job on a trigger shows intent of the shooter’s blood thirst, the prosecutor loses credibility and just wasted his time arguing for a non-factor. The legality of the shot will always primarily be dictated by the circumstances of the unlawful aggression and the action taken by the defender subsequent to that threat, regardless of the firearm used.
I’ve always been told there are like 3 “tiers” of mods. Tier 1: cerakote, red dots, upgrades sights - probably no problems in court as they are all good mods. Tier 2: triggers, barrels and stuff like that - you might not have a problem, but you are opening yourself up to the potential for legal problems. Tier 3: “quotes” or “sayings” like “f around and find out” or “your f’d” or punisher skulls and things like that are usually a bad idea because it gives odd the “impression” you are “looking for a fight”
I'm a veteran & a licensed armed G security officer, since 2002. I own and use a few LWA, KKM & TP: True Precision model barrels. I'm not amped up over any homicide investigation or Div of Licensing agent grouse over PVD barrels, new barrels.
Anything I carry, I keep the modifications minimal. New grips, or maybe different sights. Outside that, I'm not too keen on making the change for fear of getting an overzealous prosecutor who isn't interested in getting to the truth, but only in ruining someone's life for their own personal gain.
If a self defense case ever went to trial, a lawyer told me-and this is only his experience- juries were more sympathetic, or rather give the benefit of doubt, to accused that used revolvers or traditional rifles (Garand, Henry ect). The appearance should be completely irrelevant, but suppressors or red dots (handgun or rifle) don't always do the accused any favors. *Just to reiterate, this is only one man's experience.
I currently own 8 firearms. Pistols & revolvers. Army veteran 1990s 🎗, ccw license holder. I add parts, get Cerakote but I'd agree 💯. You don't need a $4000 pistol & 24K gold magazines. Keep guns clean, carry or use factory 🚔 rounds. No hand loads, no reloaded ammunition.
No matter what you do it's always going to be looked at as a negative,, I've just done what I feel I should so the gun runs as good as possible..
correction - at the 3:30 mark Miles says "... That can go against you legally". No - it cannot. The modification may be brought up in a court room and a lawyer may try to influence a judge or jury with your modification, but if your modification, of any kind, did not make that firearm illegal to own, then you have not broken the law and as such those modification cannot be LEGALLY used against you. It is important to understand the law before making this kind of video.
Ok, I've got a different viewpoint. Simply ask the lawyer, why reducing trigger pull is bad? In fact, the reason we reduce trigger pull is so that we can shoot more accurately and make sure we hit the aggressor and not a bystander, that we get good hits so that he or she cannot continue to fight and kill me or other possible bystanders. This makes us safer, not more dangerous and I believe it can be easily demonstrated. But that's just me.
I agree, keeping your EDC firearm factory stock or as close to as possible is the way to go to avoid unnecessary troubles in case you have to go to court.
Yes & no. Do you honestly need a $4000 race gun? No but to jazz 🎷 up a gun or add grips, sights, barrels etc is not going to make you look like a death row psycho.
Excellent content. Loved this series and would like to see and hear more.
Thanks
Please keep this kind of content coming…I learned a lot.
Massad Ayoob is an expert on this topic.
He does new content on Wilson Combat. He's been around guns, courts, hunting for years.
Ok check this out. It could be argued that any modification that makes the gun easier to accurately shoot could place the shooter in a position of more safely and effectively firing that weapon in a self defense shooting.
Attorneys are always going to look for a way to manipulate anything. Even if your gun came optics ready and you after purchasing said firearm add an optic you've now modified it. Any modification you make to your firearm needs to be with the mindset that it was made for safe operation.
Good and very helpful advice thank you 👍🏾 Please continue and you guys are doing a great job 👏
Great points. New gun owners, ccw users 2024 have a TON of data, choices. The best bet is to keep sidearms simple, train, know & understand laws, deadly force. 📂 Keep firearms clean, use LE type ammunition. No fads or whiz bang gimmicks.
Hey Myles and @tacticalhyve. Question for your team would be. When should I, if ever, assist a police officer? Be it them chasing someone, struggling with suspect, or whatever. What situation should you step in and which should you completely avoid?
If the criminal has the upper hand, you could step in to assist but it might not look good in front of a jury.
I'm no lawyer but it's probably best to stay out of it. Even in a red state. You never know who is going to be on that jury
I challenge anyone to find one case where firearm modification was the single deciding factor in losing a court case. Getting to court is priority ONE, proving innocence/lack of culpability depends on a good attorney.
My number one responsibility and reason for EDC? To be there for my family after a “good shoot”.
If it wasn’t a good shoot, I’m screwed anyway.
If it was a good shoot, modifications won’t matter.
If I end up in court unrighteously, either criminal or civil, I need “articulable” reasons for everything, including gun modifications, which will not be a major focus of the case. If my attorney is competent, with my coaching he should be able to explain why any modifications made the gun more reliable, accurate, faster or in any other way gave me a slight edge in defending my life.
I don’t modify with signage or decorations that are silly. Everything modified has a functional purpose. Triggers are all set to 4.25-4.5#.
If someone doesn’t want or need to modify their gun, that’s fine. I just don’t live my life scared of every lawyer shadow that will most likely never cross my path.
Very helpful info, thanks
Great content. Always test your conduct by asking what would a 25 year old prosecutor and 12 non-gun owner jurors think. How does a punisher skull on your gun look to a 50 year old nurse?
The best piece of advice I've ever heard about modifying your firearm is this:
Don't modify without a purpose.
Be able to logically defend every mod you put on.
Red dot- easier to track a moving target; lighter trigger- less chance to pull off target,
etc. Think about what you're doing and have a reason for it.
I find it interesting when discussions such as this come up and the comment about modified guns, and in particular lightened triggers comes up. Since 1995, I've served as a Police Officer in one of Atlanta's more dangerous and violent suburbs with 90% of my career was in CID as either a working detective or detective/supervisor. I can't ever recall a time in the multitude of shooting investigations that I worked where there was a question about modifications to a weapon. Even at trial, I have never heard this line of questioning and my county is one of the more liberal counties in Georgia. Questions about the legality of the shoot, absolutely. Was the shooter justified in the shooting, absolutely. Was the weapon ever modified, never. By no means is my anecdote saying that it has never happened however I've never seen it and I have butted heads many times with aggressive DA's about what a suspect should and shouldn't be charged with.
Thank you for your insight.
I'm in central Florida, since 2000. Army veteran: MP & security officer, G. I know of murder, gun cases where the firearm was either discussed or a court jury asked to see the gun.
Note- I looked into the cases, a few recent ones: FL vs Drejka & FL vs Ward. 📂 . Ward, Bob Ward was a wealthy RE 🏘 guy who shot his wife in the face with a S&W snub .357magnum . The jury asked the judge if they could look at, check the revolver, see if it was broken or had any custom work.
Great guest, Myles!
Thanks!
The fact another peer told him to say he "seen that" when he stated he didn't see anything that didn't happen is the absolute problem with officers like him. They do not report each other for unethical behavior, they just move on or avoid that person.
How do you know that he didn't report anyone? He just stated that he is refusing to lie....
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There is also a factor of building a gun that is more comfortable and more accurate for a CCW. I understand that something’s may look bad/intent but also make the shooter accurate. I don’t think a hair trigger for a carry gun makes sense, your stress and Adrenalin is up you could easily mistakenly fire or miss. I build a CCW weapon that is better for me allows me to be accurate and in control….. But when purchasing a trigger I kept over 4lbs for those stressful situations and with my old ass eyes do use a dot to insure I hit what I’m aiming at
This really shouldn't be the case. The events of the conflict (was it self defense, and deadly force justified) should be the determining factors. Justice isn't a contest. It shouldn't be about winning. It should be about administering Justice. But it's not. It's become what they used to call it in the 18th century British slang: Just-Ass.
I live in a State that requires the manufacturer to submit each model of a weapon be tested and if it doesn’t meet there criteria for trigger pull etc., it is not allowed for sale. I would never modify a personal carry weapon.
Difference between a race gun and a duty gun. Amen. Way too many RUclipsrs making videos about how they changed out their triggers for a lighter one. The weight of your trigger is the last thing on your mind when in a shooting situation. Street fights are not on a firing line.
Most, not all private citizen use of force events 📂 are in the 3x3x3 Rule. That is a deadly force event will be around 3sec in length or less, at a approx range of 3yd or less(some say 3ft) with 1-3 rounds 💥 total. Few ccw events are like John Wick or Walker, Texas Ranger 🤠. Gun fights are fast, violent & stressful.
Great info
Law enforcement is constantly trying to go after citizens versus criminals. Make your choice with that in mind.
Super interesting topic, I am wondering if you install the new Glock performance trigger in your Glock would this open you up to legal questions should something occur? Most people would say you are just bringing your Glock up to a normal trigger like a Sig. and not a hair trigger.
I'm a G license security in my state, ccw user. I have a few Glock Store 3.5lb NP3 connectors on my Glocks. I don't think a jury or FDLE technician 👩🏼🔬 will flip out.
keep up the good content
Thanks, for the 'Myles' of information!
Great topic with great points.
How do you feel about barrel porting/slide milling to make an integrated comp from a 3rd party manufacturer like how the firearm manufacturers make (i.e. Sig, Canik,S.W) but on a firearm that doesn't come with the option? Thinking of porting a Canik Rival S because I want the advantage of the TTI Combats compensator but the Rival still doesn't have a threaded barrel after 2 years so I figured I'd see about sending it out somewhere
What companies would you recommend?
Given your response regarding gun modification, does the same logic apply to adding a red dot?
He kind of hinted at that toward the end of the video. Wasn't really clear though
My Department is moving towards and has accepted red dot optics. Honestly, I think it's really what you do to "modify" the weapon.
Ìf you intend to pull the trigger based upon the law, does it matter if you changed to night sights, if your hands are really small and you put a rubber grip over the grip. If your old or young and have hand problems. If the armorer changes it he is qualified. If you use hollow points that could be used against you. Your training records and the amount you shoot, with who and what training you receive.
So it's not just triggers. Yes I come from police background twenty years to be exact
Just carrying and using a gun in self defense will be used against you in court. The modifications on your gun are secondary and if they save your life or others, like a light for proper identification or light trigger for accurate shots, then they are worth it and can easily be explained by a semi competent attorney. I guess everyone should carry a hammer less revolver and shoot it indiscriminately from their jacket pocket. I'm sure a prosecutor would love to point out the wild shots...
Author and cadre, legal deady force expert Mossad Ayoob said for years a DA only or spurless DA only revolver was +. The LAPD calls them neutered. 🚔 I owned 2 great DA only Beretta 96Ds.
A quote from a world renowned shooter "life is an open division", so I'm going to say my 1000 dollar gun is a great investment.
In 30 years of LE I have been involved in 2 shootings. Thankfully the bad guy lost. You will always be sued by the family of the deceased and every aspect and I mean every aspect of your training/equipment will be analyzed to the nth degree. Keep your weapon stock and train,train,train. You will default to your training and you will not even think about the operation of your weapon. You will do as you trained. Your operation of your firearm needs to be instructive and w/o thought.
Kicking and screaming into the 21st Century?
Whether it hurts you in court or not, it's highly likely that it will be taken into evidence for the duration and you'll be out your $1500+ custom gat while that goes on. Definitely suboptimal
Shadow systems will give you a replacement in that case. Pretty based company
@@georgekirby3361 DOPE!!!
Small price to pay to keep breathing
If you can afford a $1500 modified pistol you can afford to replace it. I guess we have to tell all these gun companies to stop putting all this stuff on the guns they sell you ie: sig macro, staccato etc etc etc. They never tell you that you can counter sue the idiots that sue you if it was justified!
@@palmtack2164 Agreed. If you can afford a $1500 carry gun, you can likely afford its twin. And you likely could carry a cheaper stock gun and still prevail in another encounter.
My carry guns and home defense weapons are all factory. I trust them that way and they run great that way. M&P all the way. Then canik and Glock
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Weapon mounted white light intended for PID?
Laser that puts a dot on a target?
Compensator?
Ported barrel?
If I were on a jury and the self defense guy had a hot rodded gun, I wouldn't take any of it into consideration.
Was his life in apparent danger?
If yes, it was self defense. End of fuckin story. Who gives a shit what accessories he needed on his gun?
Umm see AZ vs Fish. Harold Fish
Ask any good attorney a question about what is legal and what is not, especially in self defense law, and the answer will almost always be "it depends".
The question isn't "should I". The question is, "am I capable of leaving a gun uncustomized?" No. No I am not. But I am aware that I may have to defend this in court.
These points are valid but I also believe where you are, jurisdiction, also is as important. Liberal hellhole New York vs a conservative, pro castle and stand your ground doctrine area will have different perspectives from the police and DA.
That officer murder an unarmed man
Stock gun and local law enforcement ammo is pretty sound advice. Hopefully, putting better sights like a red-dot-type isn't used against you.
It'd be nice to see Myles doing some teaching with a concealed stock pistol.
Agreed on that last part. I groan every time somebody starts teaching with their comp gun from their fancy pants comp holster.
There is more to pistol shooting than USPSA matches
Lighter trigger improves accuracy. Red dot also helps with accuracy. My stock sig trigger is under 3 lbs. So how is my glock 4 lb trigger bad. By no means to hurt the reliability. Can you reference a cases where a good shoot happened and the person found guilty? I ported my gun to reduce velocity.
Though I may sympathize with the sentiment, I'll never understand people with Punisher or "F Joe Biden" engravings on their firearms. God bless should you ever have to explain yourself in a court of law.
Most cops shoot at qualifications once or twice a year. Clean their pistols once or twice a year. I train once or twice a week. I go to three courses a year. I carry plus $1,000 pistol. Either way the cops will take it and you never see it again
I carry a P99AS which is completely perfect out of the box and requires no modification.
That cop with the dust cover murdered Daniel shaver. Thats a terrible example
Yeah the young cop 👮🏻♂️ was cleared by the court but was fired. He later got a full lifetime city of Mesa AZ pension 📂.
Wow 😳
I think the first portion was better by saying,”it depends”. The latter became more of a nervous mother syndrome. Yes, I understand how the current atmospherics towards CCW/2a are….however… have a spine gents( aimed toward broad audience not video person’s).
Even in commifornia there are counties with agencies and DA’s that will not press charges as long as the preponderance of evidence shows you acted appropriately.
What also helps is being your own training cooordinator. What do I mean by this? Write a CV of your firearm training and experience.
List your formal training, personal training(dry fire/range)
List courses of fire and reasons/ goals in doing so.
Track amount rounds fired per week or Month.
If you do upgrade or change anything on your gun, why? What tesearch did you do about it? Who installed it? When did they? What verification of the upgrade did you do after the install?How many rounds were shot and. At what courses of fire etc before you carried it or made it your primRy def gun at home? See where I am going with this.
Be the court expert for you about the tools you use when Q’d by detectives or whomever.
Be a competent, professional and responsible American in all aspects and if the shoot is good you takeaway all doubt.
We see LEO’s and have the ability to chalk talk thier scenarios to help give you an idea of what stress may be incurred during a time is life situation. Make your response to it be at the subconscious level.
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Would like to see some case law that shows some of these ideas. Not that i disagree but many things turn into folk lore when no one questions things.
Thanks for posting great content.
If you can’t carry what you want are you really a free citizen?
Don’t let fear drive the way you choose to exercise your rights.
Normalize custom/modded guns.
I had painted a few front sights of my “herd” fluorescent orange, but after some careful consideration I stopped when I realized this is what the government was talking about.
I'm 53 and a Army veteran, ccw user. I have Trijicon HD orange 3 dots on a few guns. Well worth it. Some like the xr version but HDs are good ✅️.
I upgrade a gun made for thousands of people and since my body is mine I set gun to my hand and its my carry gun! ITS MY GUN GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO TELL ME IF I CAN UP GRADE MY PISTOL!
Show me a case other than the officer that one case. Modifications that help you hit your target are good to go this is just silly talk. P s the officer violated policy not any law and the dist cover did not cause further liability
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This is why I carry a unmodified P365, I leave the customs at home.
If you owen a glock you have a duty to modify if not looking to make the glock a better gun than out the box becouse its trash out of the box and takes me 1,500 to come close to how I run my glocks don't owen the glock if you don't want to change it glocks are the best blank canvas 😎
Why didn't y'all just get a firearms instructor to give legal advice instead of a real lawyer? John from ASP seems to think that Massad Ayoob is a legal expert even though he gives advice that real lawyers contradict.
Mas has been an expert for the courts since 1979. Experts in any profession can have very different opinions. Why else would we bother allowing both the state and defense to proffer their own expert witnesses in the same matter since they are experts in the same matter?
A kill stick is different than range candy.
The Armed Attorneys would probably say "yes" that it is definitely going to hurt you in court.
After listening to the "Armed Attorneys" for a while if I was in a situation where I was assigned a court appointed attorney (I am talking conjecture) and they were my legal team I would be working on a plea bargain with the D.A. on my own. My opinion.
They also said not to carry medical equipment because it might look bad in court. They’re fucking idiots.
I know this is very off topic and you’re probably tired of BUDS questions but, during hell week, are you able to use the bathroom or do you have to do everything in your pants? Kinda weird but I always wondered that