New stuff added to the video description after the video's original posting. How to exert some control of Magilou's Spell Absorber (control which break arte is cast) By MELOO ruclips.net/video/RnApzafRnrY/видео.html
Dude You're the best at breaking down these complex combat systems and mechanics. Replaying Tales of Berseria after 5 years and i didn't know about derivative arts and i didn't know how to do the 2nd mystic art. Keep stacking these decks brother. You got a sub in me.
Im glad someone is out there to show how much depth these games really have, because i see a lot of people just call tales games button mashy without understanding how complex they really are. This video also kept me company while I waited to test at the DMV today, so that alone is also worth a sub.
Fighting, and of course action games will 'always' be boiled down to button mashing for many people. I accept this compliment. Got you through the DMV!? That is real praise. Congratulations on your DMV survival.
I forgot to mention that I actually got my license and have been driving for over half a year now. I'm coming back to this video because u really liked it. I hope to see more soon.
I stumbled upon this video pretty much by accident after I've started playing Berseria for the first time (well, 2nd, but that first time I didn't get past the Vortigern gate before playing something else) and you are my absolute savior. I swear I'm trying my best to internalise the rules and the tutorials, but there's so much and i keep forgetting certain interactions. Thanks so much, i feel insanely lucky 😂.
YES! RUclips is doing its thing (referring to the stumbling upon the video) but seriously thank you for watching and glad it proved useful. As with any game take a few mechanics until you feel comfortable and then add another. Don't need to be an expert at the start.
Watched this video out of sheer love for Tales of Berseria. I put the time into learning the Arte system when I did a full completion of this game and had 3 super smooth combo routes for both Velvet and Eizen to hit different weaknesses or attack quicker. Love this game and this series, great explanation
This video is what I needed I've tried to understand berseria's gameplay for so long but never managed to click with it, this video really helped understanding the intricacies of this game and while I still think that this won't be my favorite system, I think my experience when I replay this game will be considerably better
Dude, i finished this game YEARS ago, and thought the derivative arts was the recommended art to follow up, this is the best explanation I've seen, so good that i want to play this again.
Wanting to play the game again is how I felt after finishing the guide. I saw how much smoother of a playthrough I could have (I pretty much beat the games I have guides for before starting to make them).
Loved this game since release, but man, this video is such a blessing , wont have to re-read gamefaqs to remember some saucy stuff from the combat that the game straight doesnt tell you or suck at teaching you lol. Saving this for a very soon replay i plan for the game : ), Great job, gonna check your channel.
Great video! I'm thinking of replaying Berseria, and this was a very good crash course to relearn the game (and some things I learned just now). But there's one thing I must point out: Magilou's Break Artes aren't random, they actually follow a certain order. MELOO has a video explaining it in more detail. Also (minor nitpick), Zwei and Drei are German for Two and Three. It's pronounced Zvi (as in vile) and Dry (with a hard R). Aside from that, great job. You got a new subscriber.
Oh you reminded me someone had commented something about Magilou's break arte in the past. I looked up the video. No way I was going to have noticed that without an explanation. It is cool you can have some agency over it. I did add the explanation video to my video description and a pinned comment. Thank you for the pronunciation lesson. I do not know the phonetics for German...even a little. Spanish and Japanese are all I got 😅
Another couple of things when chaining Mystic Artes: You CAN repeat characters, so long as you have chained to a different character between Mystic Artes. Additionally, Dual Mystic Artes can be staggered in the chain, so your party formation isn't required to put the 2nd Dual Mystic Arte immediately to either side of the 1st, it only cares that the chain have started with a Dual Mystic Arte.
Just played this year and the combat mechanics are overwhelming yet underwhelming that you could smash buttons. Played a few tales title and this is the first time I was getting confused about the artes. Thank you for this very very detailed guide.
Glad the video provided some assistance! Thank you for watching. "combat mechanics are overwhelming yet underwhelming that you could smash buttons" It really is like that for many/all of them isn't it? All I'm certain of is that seems like what most people do first and some decide to look deeper.
You’re a lifesaver! I love this game but the complexity of the battle system is intimidating. This video explained SO MUCH I didn’t know even after 45 hours of playtime. Any chance you’d a tales of zesteria video? I know maybe not because it has the notoriously most complex system
You're so wonderful for making this video. Tales franchise is my favorite single player franchise, and I always had trouble getting into this game the way I did Tales of the Abyss or Tales of Vesperia because of its combat system. I went back after watching this and am now working on a 100% save file so I can NG+ with my girlfriend. Thank you for all your hard work, you've helped me so much.
i just started playing it and it fascinates me how they made a button masher this complex. thanks for providing us the master degree we need to play the game
Another comment on this video mentioned how Tales of games are seen as button mashers. You can definitely button mash and get through the game but action games are as much button mashers as fighting games. There are always mechanics behind the madness for those who want to understand what they're doing. I hope the video managed to increase your enjoyment of the game 😉. Thank you giving it a watch.
Great guide!~ Sorta wish i watched this video during my playthrough of Berseria.. 😅I for some reason had trouble utilizing the dodge button to minimize enemy attacks. One thing i wanted for Berseria was a training area where you can practice using each character without limitations kinda like Arise's training grounds.
Don't worry about not using the perfect dodges. I barely did them due to the difficulty. Yes, it did need a training ground. 52:11 is the best we got unfortunately.
This video is actually gonna make me come back and finish tales of berseria. I always felt really overwhelmed by the upgrade system because of the insanely high amounts of skills to worry about like "hidden artes damage up 1.6% but only against crustaceans while the moon is full" and its like "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?" But damn seeing this video reminded me how much fun this game was and its been a very long time since I've played it so hell yeah.
🤣"hidden artes damage up 1.6% but only against crustaceans while the moon is full" It doesn't go that deep but you do question if a weapon with damage up to a certain enemy type is better or flat damage for everything. I wish you a great playthrough whenever you decide to start.
the only thing i'm missing is that dual mystic artes are cheaper in chains the game will still take the 5 bg if you have enough but 4 and 3 are also enough to do one thats why endless chains are possible
IT IS TRUE! I had to try this. Yes, after the first dual mystic arte (You must start everything with a dual mystic arte. It will not work if you start with a character's individual mystic arte even if other characters are in the appropriate party positions to perform a dual mystic arte) if characters are in a position to perform their dual mystic arte (If you have it unlocked.) the game will have them do the dual mystic arte instead of any of their individual mystic artes. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. An example of what I did for anyone reading this in the future. Character line up with BG amounts. Velvet BG 8 - Eleanor BG 6 - Eizen BG 8 - Magilou BG 7 - Laphicet BG 8 (out of combat) - Rokurou BG 7 (out of combat) Activated the dual mystic arte for Velvet+Laphicet. Chained to Eleanor. Chained to Eizen which does Eizen+Rokurou's dual mystic arte. Chain to Magilou. Chain to Eizen AGAIN which is also Eizen+Rokurou's dual mystic arte. Chain to Eleanor. Chain to Velvet which is Velvet+Laphicet's dual mystic arte.
This was very helpful this is my first tales game and I've been playing for over 100 hours on intense difficulty trying to get better at the game and this video answered most of my questions. Though im still little confused about what Crush means I'll see crush when i do a mystic arte and i have no idea what that means.
Crush? I most definitely did not mention that at 42:59. I had to look into this one. It looks like 'Crush' basically means overkill. It just lets you know an enemy has been defeated. Really useful during mystic arte chains if you want to preserve some BG.
I want to join to this comment. I've bought this game recently. It is my first game in this genre and I'm a bit confused with understanding the battle system. After this video I can fully enjoy this great game.
never have i felt so vindicated when youve corrected the game for the L1 artes and 8 action combo, because "8 hit combo" Mystic Arte is insane, leaving everyone with a bad taste and all come to the conclusion of "Mystic artes just happen sometimes and sometimes you can't" Great video! But I still prefer Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia/Xillia's combat 😭
It is unfortunate when a game's wording is wrong/ambiguous. Luckily with playing rpgs you get used to it. Thank you! Of those I've only played Xillia. I imagine I'll play some of the others one day.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks I remember not understanding the combat too well and often just skipping random encounters just to get to the next story beats faster. I think I was so underleveled that the final boss took like 40 minutes or something. I'd probably vibe with the combat a lot more if I were to play it again, but alas, there are too many games to play and I can't spend time replaying games if I want new experiences. Maybe a Building the Deck on Tales of Xillia? 👀 That one looks interesting enough to play. Although it is locked in PS3 purgatory...
I'm surprised you didn't mention malak arts cast times being shorter if you cast them during a higher stage of a combo. I like to quickstep 3 times and cast the spell on the 4th stage, SG costs are lower too. I abuse this when I want to inflict status ailments or removing them.
I didn't mention cast times being shorter during combos? *goes to check*. Yea...I did not. Thank you for pointing that out. I also never thought to quickstep to reach higher stage artes either. The only thing I did not see after trying it though was the SG cost for the arte being reduced after quickstepping 3 times and casting the malak arte on the 4th stage. Using 3 quicksteps looks like it uses 30 SG since a whole soul is red. I used Void Mire with Laphicet, a 30 SG malak arte, after doing 3 quicksteps then casting it. It uses 2 whole souls.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks the SG cost isn't lower? Huh ... I might be misremembering, it's hidden art cost that's reduced maybe. I haven't played this game since it launched back in 2017. I remember it fondly due to how much I love the characters, story and how much I enjoyed mastering the combat on chaos difficulty, which was incredibly satisfying. Watching your video reminded me I should sink another 100h into it again.😁
@@maxiiehorus099 Oooo you must be talking about at 47:30. Where 2 martial artes in a row will lower the cost of the next arte by 20%. A madman hyper fan I see. 7 years is worthy of another playthrough.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks I dunno about 'madman', but I do love the series, berseria being the best one. Haha. It's not also that hard. The AI is competent at dodging, so as long as you keep your companions equipment upgraded and learn every skill you come across you should be fine, well that and being comfortable with adapting strategies conforming to the foes you encounter. I find the puzzle element to find the adequate strategy for each encounter quite fun, and because of that I find myself swapping gears and titles every dungeon, basically. Having said that, perhaps I am mad, haha.😁 I remember doing the same on zestiria, but for that game, as long as you build your gear for each monster type, they stand no chance. Like, even the final boss, if you build 80% Vs dragons on each party member, he ends up being a joke, even on chaos, this can't be quite replicated on berseria so I welcome the added challenge even if the game is overall simpler. You should probably do Zestiria too, I'd totally favourite that video too.😁 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Like Zestiria, Berseria has the antagonist arts mechanic as well. Martial beats malak by interrupting, malak beats hidden( hit casters with hidden and it shorten cast time), hidden beats martial( hidden breaks through martial).
Beat the entire game with random buttons lol Never understood Berseria’s gameplay but I will try to get to it now since the post game is so hard to beat without knowledge
This literally happened to me when I was making the dual mystic arte portion of the video because I had no idea they existed til then and quickly found out my characters were not strong enough to do the content. I learned a lot that day.
I have tried this game recently, but it didnt click for me and one of the reasons was the combat. This video is really well done and i can see your love for the game, an althought i will not continue playing (for some other reason apart from combat) i have recomended this video on my steam review for others to see and i'll continue accompaning your channel! Keep it up, cheers from Brazil.
Thank you and thanks for that recommendation. Sounds like you gave the game a fair try so is all good if you decided to not finish it. Play what you enjoy. Cheers to you and Brazil.
Sir you make good guys. I watched this one as well as your Tales of Arise guide. I am wondering if you will make more Tales of guides? I platinum these two but it's always good to listen to guides like this Incase I missed something.
Thank you for the kind words! It is possible more Tales of games will show up. I just can't guarantee when, because there are many games I'd like to do.
@@matex2207 I'm surprised I have not had more comments for Vesperia. I have not played it but I know how much it gets talked about. A video could happen one day.
Oh wow wish I had found this video before I got to near the end of ToB, lol. I mean, I 'got' the basics, but the battle system is ludicrously complex and I never really understood it al. I just set everything to "You Decide" on the A button and did nothing but mash A and RT with Velvet for 99% of the game lol. Sometimes enemies would die ludicrously fast, other times battles would take 5 minutes because I can't land a single stun.
Dhalin, your comment is how I expect most people's playthroughs to go when they play ToB. As time goes on I'm sure you'll see other people resonate with this comment. Hopefully if you decide to play it again or perhaps do the post game you can use the new found knowledge! Thank you for taking the time to watch!
The only reason I have some peak difficult in games, is when the combat requires some understanding besides hitting hard, since I just do what the tutorial shows me
I often still abide by the "If I hit it hard I will win strategy". It is in an 'occasional' vain effort to see if the game will force me to change my strategy.
i always had trouble connecting with the combat in this game, since i ended up just mashing the a button to get it over with. while i really liked vesperias approach on how the systems could be performed alone and or connected together. for instance at the start of the fight estelle performed angel ring while i was casting ritas violent pain. seeing all these slippery enemies getting cobbled up and eaten by tentacles after kicking my a** made me die of laughter or even witnessing ritas endless toilet flushing. vesperia also had a more natural skill unlock progression and better mechanics explanation. berseria throws stuff at you but never really makes it clear on how to connect them and you end up mashing just one button because it kinda works while robbing you of the challenge/fun. i already tried to look up combat mechanics quite a while ago, but there wasnt really anything clear/useful since the majority of people seemed to have given up on the combat.
I'm right there with the majority. In that I go off of the information the game gives me so if it does not explain itself well I'll also be mashing those buttons. If I find I enjoy the game's combat enough I may look into it (these videos are partly an excuse for me to learn more about some games 😅) "i already tried to look up combat mechanics quite a while ago, but there wasnt really anything clear/useful since the majority of people seemed to have given up on the combat." This part of your comment is part of what made me want to make these guides. Having a hard time finding the information I want to know.
I'm sure that is the route most people went with the combat because Velvet is extremely strong and the easiest to use by default. Learning the extra stuff really makes fights feel smoother and more enjoyable for me. Especially for action games.
This is such a great series! Especially for games like Berseria that are frankly too complicated for their own good. In that vein, a guide for XC2 would be great, since that game is notoriously terrible at explaining itself, and as much as I love Enel his guides aren't terribly well organized and also have mild spoilers for lategame enemies in them.
Thank you! It means a lot. You are not the first to mention Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and it does VERY much deserve the Building the Deck treatment. I just can't guarantee when I'd do it. Enel is THE Xenoblade man. I've watched some of his videos over the years. As for spoilers. Some of my videos have clips of late game areas. I abhor spoiling stuff so there is no context for where in the game a clip is and I'll leave out bosses unless absolutely necessary. Like this video for example. Oscar is in it but that is at the beginning of the game. My point being I go out of my way not to reveal too much unless it is relevant to the video because I want people to go play these games for themselves.
Funny enough, I think Berseria is way, WAY oversimplified. The ability to just set up your own combos basically removed any amount of skill required in the combat.
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 Yes, it is simplified with how the artes window works and even further simplified with the derivative artes. There are enough other mechanics that help with the complexity along with any efficiency you would like to have. Like understanding/paying attention to number of souls, artes chain (white outlined souls), BG, and which mystic artes/break souls will be activated when. I'd say the complexity evens out in the combat overall. It is still very much a rpg so you can get away without fully understanding or using all of its mechanics, because I definitely did. The combat example in the video was me feeling like I 'understood' the combat. That was not the first battle recording I had intended to use. I realized I had to change it later.
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 It is simple in one way, but so very complex in another way. To actually perform combos, you can simplify it by setting "You Decide" to all 4 stages of a button and just mash that button, and/or use the derivative combos (something I never even knew about until this video lol) but yet, you need an encyclopedia to understand all the systems stacked ontop of each other. So, there's a highly ceiling for knowing how the system works, but yet a lower ceiling to actually perform what you want to do, if that makes sense? The knowledge aspect is what makes it so intimidating to the new player, like every other battle during the first 3 hours of the game gives you info dumps and tutorials of things you might not even think you need to use because enemies are so easy during the first 5 hours of the game. They're talking about switch blasts, and you're going "... why do I need these? enemies are dying just fine by spamming Velvet's attacks" ... then, like 20 hours later, in the latter stages of the game you're getting your butt kicked and you've likely forgotten about some of these finer details of the battle system.
YOU CAN CHAIN MYSTIC ARTES??? I swear this game is both cool but also extremely over designed. I am glad Arise really simplified a lot of this stuff, maybe even a bit too much. I learned a lot from the video, thanks. Hope this makes the game more interesting, I am about halfway through and it is a bit of a snore once you get a good handle of combo and break arte chaining.
"YOU CAN CHAIN MYSTIC ARTES???" Yes! I know right. I didn't know that for forever. It is a self imposed requirement to read every. single. tutorial page when I make a video and this fact is nowhere in the tutorials... Let me know if the new info made the game more interesting. It is not needed to get through the game but man...after I learned these things it made the combat feel more smooth and enjoyable.
And I was evading monster battles just to learn today that Grade is just some exp boost Really, I got to caves after Cathedral battle on lowest possible grind on hardest difficulty which means my party members gets knock out just from a one or few hits for not much of a reward ( Also do not do this, you'll never back up your level because there is not such thing as a bonus experience handicap for having a lower level Every fight will be a nightmare for you, so just play normally from the beginning Meh, why I even tryed it (
Avoiding too many fights will make the game far too difficult. Also if you are not mastering the different equipment then it gets even worse 1:04:23. Since you will be missing permanent buffs to your characters. You can also go back to lower level areas for the enemies to be easier and if you start a dangerous encounter 1:22:33 enemies will be at a level a bit higher than your own.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks Yeah I know that But I kinda stuck cus I also trying to make no dmg and no healing battles with bosses Everything for a biggest Grade, blegh
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks Took me nearly 100+ tryes to beat Eleanor and Spider mini-boss in ruins That was an exausting experience, but the battle vs Eazen and other guy with a pendulum was even worse After all that I drop my playthrough
I have a conspiracy theory about this games enemy AI As soon as you start casting a spell enemies stop whatever theyre doing and rush you 😅 Almost everytime this seemed to happen
i got as far as the water temple boss before i just said fuck this and lowered to simple dificulty..i could not do that fight to save my life and iw as leve 35..despite watching vids online that wheren ot even at level 30 and still smashing it...tried for a whole day and never got anywhere with it. still even after watching this combat guide im lost on how to do that fight.
For Berseria bosses my strat was to combo it for a moment then back away and repeat. Then when about half health start a mystic arte chain (during a chain combo is preferred 43:59) 1:00:19 and cycle through the whole party. You want the boss to die from the chain. At low health they spam stuff more and are a much bigger pain. I've lost fights when I was close to winning. Use 4:07 Prioritize Defense to help the AI stop rushing in. Just don't forget you can turn it off by pressing and releasing the button. You can turn off attacks for the AI to make them more focused on enemy weaknesses or make sure they are only fighting at range. 1:19:55 Under Strategy the options you see in the video Is basically what I left it on the entire time. Specifically what is under Tactics and Blast. You can also tell the AI to attack at range here. I wanted to handle all BG spending manually so I could have the BG for the mystic arte chains without worry. Can't say I recommend this due to the micro managing unless you enjoy that. 1:18:06 Primarily using Velvet helps too if you can keep her in therionization due to being unable to die while it is active. Of course don't be afraid to spend those gels. I hope some of this helps with future bosses. I also can't be more specific since I'm unable to see exactly what you are doing.
It is a lot but it is never 100% necessary to remember everything for any game (there are of course key things most should know). I did not know everything in this video that I myself made. I beat the game. Went to make the video and face palmed multiple times in the process. I love those moments though. 🤣
Wait wait...WAIT. 😂 Is it because the stat increase is green? I do not believe I ever looked at it that closely. It is hilarious that it is actually green. Now you have me questioning why it is green and not blue...who makes it 'not' a red and blue combo!? 🤣 Thank you kind person in helping me to decide to remove this piece of trash video and re-do the entire thing OR I could just do some editing magic and make those numbers blue so I can be right...nah I'll take your advice and trash it. *sarcasm* (just in case for certain people out in the world)
Ok combat system but more in the field of flashy animations and not much substance imo ( Like Arise). Compared to say Graces F or Xillia this games cpmbat isnt as good imo, but its still ok I played this game on Intense difficulty and it still felt pretty wasy as I almost never wiped. I would definitely say I was not a god of the combat system (which sometimes was not even explained properly). Control Velvet, hold R2 down, and perform artes that say power hit (elemental weaknesses and carried over from xillia and Zestiria). Spirit Drop on Magilou was also pretty OP When you are out of souls and everything stops I didnt like it. I am not a fan of fatigue systems. Zestiria had one too but it was less annoying. In fact Armatization is just a much better mehcanic imo Characters csn steal dropped souls which was annoying
Sticking with Velvet is indeed the way to go and it seems like every Tales of game has a more efficient method to get through its combat. Velvet is definitely the way for Berseria (I used her a ton too 😉). Knowing a game's mechanics makes it so much more enjoyable for me though. I almost wanted to play Berseria again after learning the new stuff I learned when making this video.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks one thing I didn't like about it is that you only had 4 face buttons but there were 4 elements and the non elemental artes. I set them up like zestiria for the most part Up: fire (triangle) Left: water (square) Right: wind (circle) Down: earth (x) I just didnt like how many times I had to keep going into the menu to re arrange the combos
Yea, Berseria is a lot mechanics wise and you don't need to know most of it. There are a few core takeaways I hope people have though. Like mystic arte chains as an example.
New stuff added to the video description after the video's original posting.
How to exert some control of Magilou's Spell Absorber (control which break arte is cast)
By MELOO ruclips.net/video/RnApzafRnrY/видео.html
Whew! Welp! Am I even playing the right game!? The amount of info here is staggering. Damn good job!
Yes.
Yes, you are playing the right game. Games just have too much sauce for their own good. Especially jrpgs.
Dude You're the best at breaking down these complex combat systems and mechanics. Replaying Tales of Berseria after 5 years and i didn't know about derivative arts and i didn't know how to do the 2nd mystic art. Keep stacking these decks brother. You got a sub in me.
I knew I recognized that name and profile picture. Thank you. I always hope someone can learn something new. Like I do everyday 😂
It's badly explained that's why you didn't know how to do it.
Compare to some of the earlier games where there is no ambiguity
Im glad someone is out there to show how much depth these games really have, because i see a lot of people just call tales games button mashy without understanding how complex they really are.
This video also kept me company while I waited to test at the DMV today, so that alone is also worth a sub.
Fighting, and of course action games will 'always' be boiled down to button mashing for many people.
I accept this compliment. Got you through the DMV!? That is real praise. Congratulations on your DMV survival.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks the worst part is that I failed the written test anyway. Lmao
I forgot to mention that I actually got my license and have been driving for over half a year now. I'm coming back to this video because u really liked it. I hope to see more soon.
I stumbled upon this video pretty much by accident after I've started playing Berseria for the first time (well, 2nd, but that first time I didn't get past the Vortigern gate before playing something else) and you are my absolute savior.
I swear I'm trying my best to internalise the rules and the tutorials, but there's so much and i keep forgetting certain interactions. Thanks so much, i feel insanely lucky 😂.
YES! RUclips is doing its thing (referring to the stumbling upon the video) but seriously thank you for watching and glad it proved useful. As with any game take a few mechanics until you feel comfortable and then add another. Don't need to be an expert at the start.
This was hugely helpful. Thanks! I'm playing through this game for the first time currently.
Glad it helped! I hope you enjoy the playthrough 😉.
Watched this video out of sheer love for Tales of Berseria. I put the time into learning the Arte system when I did a full completion of this game and had 3 super smooth combo routes for both Velvet and Eizen to hit different weaknesses or attack quicker. Love this game and this series, great explanation
You are a rare breed and I appreciate that people like you exist for every game. Thank you for taking the time to watch 😄.
This video is what I needed I've tried to understand berseria's gameplay for so long but never managed to click with it, this video really helped understanding the intricacies of this game and while I still think that this won't be my favorite system, I think my experience when I replay this game will be considerably better
"I still think that this won't be my favorite system" Fair!
I do hope the game will at least be more enjoyable next time with the new information.
Dude, i finished this game YEARS ago, and thought the derivative arts was the recommended art to follow up, this is the best explanation I've seen, so good that i want to play this again.
Wanting to play the game again is how I felt after finishing the guide. I saw how much smoother of a playthrough I could have (I pretty much beat the games I have guides for before starting to make them).
Loved this game since release, but man, this video is such a blessing , wont have to re-read gamefaqs to remember some saucy stuff from the combat that the game straight doesnt tell you or suck at teaching you lol. Saving this for a very soon replay i plan for the game : ), Great job, gonna check your channel.
Thank you! Please be sure to check the video description for even more information. I hope everything makes that new playthrough more enjoyable.
Great video. I platinum’d the game and still learned a couple things from this video.
Nice on the platinum. Thank you and thanks for taking the time to watch. What were a few of the new things you did not know before?
Great video! I'm thinking of replaying Berseria, and this was a very good crash course to relearn the game (and some things I learned just now).
But there's one thing I must point out: Magilou's Break Artes aren't random, they actually follow a certain order. MELOO has a video explaining it in more detail.
Also (minor nitpick), Zwei and Drei are German for Two and Three. It's pronounced Zvi (as in vile) and Dry (with a hard R).
Aside from that, great job. You got a new subscriber.
Oh you reminded me someone had commented something about Magilou's break arte in the past. I looked up the video. No way I was going to have noticed that without an explanation. It is cool you can have some agency over it. I did add the explanation video to my video description and a pinned comment.
Thank you for the pronunciation lesson. I do not know the phonetics for German...even a little. Spanish and Japanese are all I got 😅
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecksYou're welcome. Keep up the great work!
2024 and still This vid is top tier 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Thank you kind individual!
Thank you so much! This video sum up everything I need to play the game.
Thank you for watching! Enjoy the game with the new knowledge. I hope it serves you well and makes the game more fun.
Another couple of things when chaining Mystic Artes: You CAN repeat characters, so long as you have chained to a different character between Mystic Artes. Additionally, Dual Mystic Artes can be staggered in the chain, so your party formation isn't required to put the 2nd Dual Mystic Arte immediately to either side of the 1st, it only cares that the chain have started with a Dual Mystic Arte.
YES, to all of these! I did not specifically say them in the video.
Just played this year and the combat mechanics are overwhelming yet underwhelming that you could smash buttons. Played a few tales title and this is the first time I was getting confused about the artes. Thank you for this very very detailed guide.
Glad the video provided some assistance! Thank you for watching.
"combat mechanics are overwhelming yet underwhelming that you could smash buttons" It really is like that for many/all of them isn't it? All I'm certain of is that seems like what most people do first and some decide to look deeper.
1:11:44 Very important: there is a side quest that requires Velvet at max cooking level. So I suggest you to cook with Velvet as much as you can
Good to know! I definitely did not do every side quest.
You’re a lifesaver! I love this game but the complexity of the battle system is intimidating. This video explained SO MUCH I didn’t know even after 45 hours of playtime. Any chance you’d a tales of zesteria video? I know maybe not because it has the notoriously most complex system
Zestiria is a possibility and there is no such thing as too complex...in my mind at least. Glad I was able to help!
You're so wonderful for making this video. Tales franchise is my favorite single player franchise, and I always had trouble getting into this game the way I did Tales of the Abyss or Tales of Vesperia because of its combat system. I went back after watching this and am now working on a 100% save file so I can NG+ with my girlfriend. Thank you for all your hard work, you've helped me so much.
Glad the guide was useful. Any key things you did not understand on your initial play of Berseria that you understand now as an example?
i just started playing it and it fascinates me how they made a button masher this complex. thanks for providing us the master degree we need to play the game
Another comment on this video mentioned how Tales of games are seen as button mashers.
You can definitely button mash and get through the game but action games are as much button mashers as fighting games. There are always mechanics behind the madness for those who want to understand what they're doing. I hope the video managed to increase your enjoyment of the game 😉. Thank you giving it a watch.
The real MVP for breaking all this down
Thank you! It always ends up being more work than I bargained for. Games do not like to tell you so MUCH information!
Great guide!~ Sorta wish i watched this video during my playthrough of Berseria.. 😅I for some reason had trouble utilizing the dodge button to minimize enemy attacks. One thing i wanted for Berseria was a training area where you can practice using each character without limitations kinda like Arise's training grounds.
Don't worry about not using the perfect dodges. I barely did them due to the difficulty. Yes, it did need a training ground. 52:11 is the best we got unfortunately.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks Yeah playing that mini game to practice a bit, but there is a time limit sadly.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks But yeah, if Berseria had Arise's "perfect dodge into counter" mechanic, I would've given Berseria a i higher score. 😅
Thank you. Your Video just made the Game a lot more fun for me!
YES! Thank you! That is the exact goal of these videos.
Great vid! Clear and concise
Thank you. Appreciate you taking the time to watch.
This video is actually gonna make me come back and finish tales of berseria. I always felt really overwhelmed by the upgrade system because of the insanely high amounts of skills to worry about like "hidden artes damage up 1.6% but only against crustaceans while the moon is full" and its like "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?" But damn seeing this video reminded me how much fun this game was and its been a very long time since I've played it so hell yeah.
🤣"hidden artes damage up 1.6% but only against crustaceans while the moon is full"
It doesn't go that deep but you do question if a weapon with damage up to a certain enemy type is better or flat damage for everything. I wish you a great playthrough whenever you decide to start.
If this video existed at the time i was playing berseria things would've been easier lmao. Great stuff!
Thank you! Congrats making it through despite the very late released guide.
the only thing i'm missing is that dual mystic artes are cheaper in chains the game will still take the 5 bg if you have enough but 4 and 3 are also enough to do one thats why endless chains are possible
IT IS TRUE! I had to try this. Yes, after the first dual mystic arte (You must start everything with a dual mystic arte. It will not work if you start with a character's individual mystic arte even if other characters are in the appropriate party positions to perform a dual mystic arte) if characters are in a position to perform their dual mystic arte (If you have it unlocked.) the game will have them do the dual mystic arte instead of any of their individual mystic artes. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
An example of what I did for anyone reading this in the future. Character line up with BG amounts.
Velvet BG 8 - Eleanor BG 6 - Eizen BG 8 - Magilou BG 7 - Laphicet BG 8 (out of combat) - Rokurou BG 7 (out of combat)
Activated the dual mystic arte for Velvet+Laphicet. Chained to Eleanor. Chained to Eizen which does Eizen+Rokurou's dual mystic arte. Chain to Magilou. Chain to Eizen AGAIN which is also Eizen+Rokurou's dual mystic arte. Chain to Eleanor. Chain to Velvet which is Velvet+Laphicet's dual mystic arte.
This was very helpful this is my first tales game and I've been playing for over 100 hours on intense difficulty trying to get better at the game and this video answered most of my questions. Though im still little confused about what Crush means I'll see crush when i do a mystic arte and i have no idea what that means.
Crush? I most definitely did not mention that at 42:59. I had to look into this one. It looks like 'Crush' basically means overkill. It just lets you know an enemy has been defeated. Really useful during mystic arte chains if you want to preserve some BG.
Thank you, that was driving me crazy.
I want to join to this comment. I've bought this game recently. It is my first game in this genre and I'm a bit confused with understanding the battle system. After this video I can fully enjoy this great game.
@@nvmage Welcome to the Tales of franchise! Let us know what you thought of Berseria sometime in the future.
Would love to see a tales of vesperia building the deck or even tales of graces, nice job
Thank you! All I can say is there will be more Tales of one day. I just can't guarantee which ones.
Nice just started my first Berseria playthru... Found this video ❤❤❤
Nice! Enjoy the game and I hope the video makes the playthrough more fun/enjoyable for you 😉.
Man, i wish i had this when i played it 4 years ago. I figured some of the mechanics but struggled to rearn the rest.
I'm sorry a guide got made so late but even with the lateness it is nice to see people still watched it. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
just 30 mnts, ady some mechanics i ve missed, thank you
You're welcome and thank you very much for watching kind stranger!
never have i felt so vindicated when youve corrected the game for the L1 artes and 8 action combo, because "8 hit combo" Mystic Arte is insane, leaving everyone with a bad taste and all come to the conclusion of "Mystic artes just happen sometimes and sometimes you can't"
Great video! But I still prefer Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia/Xillia's combat 😭
It is unfortunate when a game's wording is wrong/ambiguous. Luckily with playing rpgs you get used to it.
Thank you! Of those I've only played Xillia. I imagine I'll play some of the others one day.
This would have been great to have when I played this game 3 years ago.
😂 I'm sorry I was not there in your time of need. Here is to hoping I can be in the future. Thank you for spending some time watching.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks I remember not understanding the combat too well and often just skipping random encounters just to get to the next story beats faster. I think I was so underleveled that the final boss took like 40 minutes or something.
I'd probably vibe with the combat a lot more if I were to play it again, but alas, there are too many games to play and I can't spend time replaying games if I want new experiences.
Maybe a Building the Deck on Tales of Xillia? 👀 That one looks interesting enough to play. Although it is locked in PS3 purgatory...
I'm surprised you didn't mention malak arts cast times being shorter if you cast them during a higher stage of a combo. I like to quickstep 3 times and cast the spell on the 4th stage, SG costs are lower too. I abuse this when I want to inflict status ailments or removing them.
I didn't mention cast times being shorter during combos? *goes to check*. Yea...I did not. Thank you for pointing that out. I also never thought to quickstep to reach higher stage artes either.
The only thing I did not see after trying it though was the SG cost for the arte being reduced after quickstepping 3 times and casting the malak arte on the 4th stage. Using 3 quicksteps looks like it uses 30 SG since a whole soul is red.
I used Void Mire with Laphicet, a 30 SG malak arte, after doing 3 quicksteps then casting it. It uses 2 whole souls.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks the SG cost isn't lower? Huh ... I might be misremembering, it's hidden art cost that's reduced maybe. I haven't played this game since it launched back in 2017. I remember it fondly due to how much I love the characters, story and how much I enjoyed mastering the combat on chaos difficulty, which was incredibly satisfying.
Watching your video reminded me I should sink another 100h into it again.😁
@@maxiiehorus099 Oooo you must be talking about at 47:30. Where 2 martial artes in a row will lower the cost of the next arte by 20%.
A madman hyper fan I see. 7 years is worthy of another playthrough.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks I dunno about 'madman', but I do love the series, berseria being the best one. Haha. It's not also that hard. The AI is competent at dodging, so as long as you keep your companions equipment upgraded and learn every skill you come across you should be fine, well that and being comfortable with adapting strategies conforming to the foes you encounter. I find the puzzle element to find the adequate strategy for each encounter quite fun, and because of that I find myself swapping gears and titles every dungeon, basically.
Having said that, perhaps I am mad, haha.😁
I remember doing the same on zestiria, but for that game, as long as you build your gear for each monster type, they stand no chance. Like, even the final boss, if you build 80% Vs dragons on each party member, he ends up being a joke, even on chaos, this can't be quite replicated on berseria so I welcome the added challenge even if the game is overall simpler.
You should probably do Zestiria too, I'd totally favourite that video too.😁
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. Like Zestiria, Berseria has the antagonist arts mechanic as well. Martial beats malak by interrupting, malak beats hidden( hit casters with hidden and it shorten cast time), hidden beats martial( hidden breaks through martial).
Beat the entire game with random buttons lol
Never understood Berseria’s gameplay but I will try to get to it now since the post game is so hard to beat without knowledge
This literally happened to me when I was making the dual mystic arte portion of the video because I had no idea they existed til then and quickly found out my characters were not strong enough to do the content. I learned a lot that day.
I have tried this game recently, but it didnt click for me and one of the reasons was the combat. This video is really well done and i can see your love for the game, an althought i will not continue playing (for some other reason apart from combat) i have recomended this video on my steam review for others to see and i'll continue accompaning your channel! Keep it up, cheers from Brazil.
Thank you and thanks for that recommendation. Sounds like you gave the game a fair try so is all good if you decided to not finish it. Play what you enjoy. Cheers to you and Brazil.
Berseria may be years old now but still a handy video.
Thank you. It is nice to see that people still have interest learning about older games.
Sir you make good guys. I watched this one as well as your Tales of Arise guide. I am wondering if you will make more Tales of guides? I platinum these two but it's always good to listen to guides like this Incase I missed something.
Thank you for the kind words! It is possible more Tales of games will show up. I just can't guarantee when, because there are many games I'd like to do.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks Vesperia would be nice to make, many people never learned how all the cancels work, boss tech outs and what not.
@@matex2207 I'm surprised I have not had more comments for Vesperia. I have not played it but I know how much it gets talked about. A video could happen one day.
Oh wow wish I had found this video before I got to near the end of ToB, lol. I mean, I 'got' the basics, but the battle system is ludicrously complex and I never really understood it al. I just set everything to "You Decide" on the A button and did nothing but mash A and RT with Velvet for 99% of the game lol. Sometimes enemies would die ludicrously fast, other times battles would take 5 minutes because I can't land a single stun.
Dhalin, your comment is how I expect most people's playthroughs to go when they play ToB. As time goes on I'm sure you'll see other people resonate with this comment. Hopefully if you decide to play it again or perhaps do the post game you can use the new found knowledge! Thank you for taking the time to watch!
The only reason I have some peak difficult in games, is when the combat requires some understanding besides hitting hard, since I just do what the tutorial shows me
I often still abide by the "If I hit it hard I will win strategy". It is in an 'occasional' vain effort to see if the game will force me to change my strategy.
i always had trouble connecting with the combat in this game, since i ended up just mashing the a button to get it over with.
while i really liked vesperias approach on how the systems could be performed alone and or connected together. for instance at the start of the fight estelle performed angel ring while i was casting ritas violent pain. seeing all these slippery enemies getting cobbled up and eaten by tentacles after kicking my a** made me die of laughter or even witnessing ritas endless toilet flushing.
vesperia also had a more natural skill unlock progression and better mechanics explanation.
berseria throws stuff at you but never really makes it clear on how to connect them and you end up mashing just one button because it kinda works while robbing you of the challenge/fun.
i already tried to look up combat mechanics quite a while ago, but there wasnt really anything clear/useful since the majority of people seemed to have given up on the combat.
I'm right there with the majority. In that I go off of the information the game gives me so if it does not explain itself well I'll also be mashing those buttons. If I find I enjoy the game's combat enough I may look into it (these videos are partly an excuse for me to learn more about some games 😅)
"i already tried to look up combat mechanics quite a while ago, but there wasnt really anything clear/useful since the majority of people seemed to have given up on the combat."
This part of your comment is part of what made me want to make these guides. Having a hard time finding the information I want to know.
Berseria gameplay just devolves into velvet break soul eventually but i appreaciate the effort of showcasing what the game was trying to do.
I'm sure that is the route most people went with the combat because Velvet is extremely strong and the easiest to use by default. Learning the extra stuff really makes fights feel smoother and more enjoyable for me. Especially for action games.
OMG @2:28 you're fighting Hawk 2uah!~ HAHAHAHAHHA
I would not have expected a mention like this here. You live up to your username 😉!
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks 😂🤷♂️
This game has the most complicated combat system and mechanic game I've ever played..
Berseria is indeed a bit much. I hope the video provided some more understanding. Thank you for taking the time to watch!
Do a Mary Skelter trilogy
I think I've heard of those but that was years ago. Had to look it up.
This is such a great series! Especially for games like Berseria that are frankly too complicated for their own good. In that vein, a guide for XC2 would be great, since that game is notoriously terrible at explaining itself, and as much as I love Enel his guides aren't terribly well organized and also have mild spoilers for lategame enemies in them.
Thank you! It means a lot. You are not the first to mention Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and it does VERY much deserve the Building the Deck treatment. I just can't guarantee when I'd do it. Enel is THE Xenoblade man. I've watched some of his videos over the years.
As for spoilers. Some of my videos have clips of late game areas. I abhor spoiling stuff so there is no context for where in the game a clip is and I'll leave out bosses unless absolutely necessary. Like this video for example. Oscar is in it but that is at the beginning of the game. My point being I go out of my way not to reveal too much unless it is relevant to the video because I want people to go play these games for themselves.
Funny enough, I think Berseria is way, WAY oversimplified. The ability to just set up your own combos basically removed any amount of skill required in the combat.
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 Yes, it is simplified with how the artes window works and even further simplified with the derivative artes. There are enough other mechanics that help with the complexity along with any efficiency you would like to have. Like understanding/paying attention to number of souls, artes chain (white outlined souls), BG, and which mystic artes/break souls will be activated when. I'd say the complexity evens out in the combat overall.
It is still very much a rpg so you can get away without fully understanding or using all of its mechanics, because I definitely did. The combat example in the video was me feeling like I 'understood' the combat. That was not the first battle recording I had intended to use. I realized I had to change it later.
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018about artes yes. But I dont think there was any Tales games before it that just let you swap character midfight
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 It is simple in one way, but so very complex in another way. To actually perform combos, you can simplify it by setting "You Decide" to all 4 stages of a button and just mash that button, and/or use the derivative combos (something I never even knew about until this video lol) but yet, you need an encyclopedia to understand all the systems stacked ontop of each other. So, there's a highly ceiling for knowing how the system works, but yet a lower ceiling to actually perform what you want to do, if that makes sense? The knowledge aspect is what makes it so intimidating to the new player, like every other battle during the first 3 hours of the game gives you info dumps and tutorials of things you might not even think you need to use because enemies are so easy during the first 5 hours of the game. They're talking about switch blasts, and you're going "... why do I need these? enemies are dying just fine by spamming Velvet's attacks" ... then, like 20 hours later, in the latter stages of the game you're getting your butt kicked and you've likely forgotten about some of these finer details of the battle system.
Can we get a zestiria guide? Ive gotten so annoyed at the game I just play on auto :(
Could happen one day! Don't quote me! but it could happen!
You should do a video on Xillia
It could definitely happen 1 day!
Yeah, I just smashed random buttons. Worked for me.
You can definitely make it through the game that way. Hope you enjoyed the game though.👍
YOU CAN CHAIN MYSTIC ARTES??? I swear this game is both cool but also extremely over designed. I am glad Arise really simplified a lot of this stuff, maybe even a bit too much. I learned a lot from the video, thanks. Hope this makes the game more interesting, I am about halfway through and it is a bit of a snore once you get a good handle of combo and break arte chaining.
"YOU CAN CHAIN MYSTIC ARTES???"
Yes! I know right. I didn't know that for forever. It is a self imposed requirement to read every. single. tutorial page when I make a video and this fact is nowhere in the tutorials...
Let me know if the new info made the game more interesting. It is not needed to get through the game but man...after I learned these things it made the combat feel more smooth and enjoyable.
And I was evading monster battles just to learn today that Grade is just some exp boost
Really, I got to caves after Cathedral battle on lowest possible grind on hardest difficulty which means my party members gets knock out just from a one or few hits for not much of a reward (
Also do not do this, you'll never back up your level because there is not such thing as a bonus experience handicap for having a lower level
Every fight will be a nightmare for you, so just play normally from the beginning
Meh, why I even tryed it (
Avoiding too many fights will make the game far too difficult. Also if you are not mastering the different equipment then it gets even worse 1:04:23. Since you will be missing permanent buffs to your characters.
You can also go back to lower level areas for the enemies to be easier and if you start a dangerous encounter 1:22:33 enemies will be at a level a bit higher than your own.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks Yeah I know that
But I kinda stuck cus I also trying to make no dmg and no healing battles with bosses
Everything for a biggest Grade, blegh
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks Took me nearly 100+ tryes to beat Eleanor and Spider mini-boss in ruins
That was an exausting experience, but the battle vs Eazen and other guy with a pendulum was even worse
After all that I drop my playthrough
I have a conspiracy theory about this games enemy AI
As soon as you start casting a spell enemies stop whatever theyre doing and rush you 😅 Almost everytime this seemed to happen
Could be. They sure did not want to stick to one target...ever...
i got as far as the water temple boss before i just said fuck this and lowered to simple dificulty..i could not do that fight to save my life and iw as leve 35..despite watching vids online that wheren ot even at level 30 and still smashing it...tried for a whole day and never got anywhere with it. still even after watching this combat guide im lost on how to do that fight.
For Berseria bosses my strat was to combo it for a moment then back away and repeat. Then when about half health start a mystic arte chain (during a chain combo is preferred 43:59) 1:00:19 and cycle through the whole party. You want the boss to die from the chain. At low health they spam stuff more and are a much bigger pain. I've lost fights when I was close to winning.
Use 4:07 Prioritize Defense to help the AI stop rushing in. Just don't forget you can turn it off by pressing and releasing the button.
You can turn off attacks for the AI to make them more focused on enemy weaknesses or make sure they are only fighting at range. 1:19:55
Under Strategy the options you see in the video Is basically what I left it on the entire time. Specifically what is under Tactics and Blast. You can also tell the AI to attack at range here. I wanted to handle all BG spending manually so I could have the BG for the mystic arte chains without worry. Can't say I recommend this due to the micro managing unless you enjoy that. 1:18:06
Primarily using Velvet helps too if you can keep her in therionization due to being unable to die while it is active.
Of course don't be afraid to spend those gels.
I hope some of this helps with future bosses. I also can't be more specific since I'm unable to see exactly what you are doing.
A berseria combat system video in 2023???
Put simply...yes...and people watched it. Can you believe that!? Cause I sure can't. Thank you.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks And nothing since then :^)
@@Lukja08 Are you calling me out you individual 😉? If so...shhh. You did not hear this from me but there will be an announcement soon.
How in the world is anyone supposed to keep all of this stuff straight???
It is a lot but it is never 100% necessary to remember everything for any game (there are of course key things most should know). I did not know everything in this video that I myself made. I beat the game. Went to make the video and face palmed multiple times in the process. I love those moments though. 🤣
I almost gave up on this game because the combat seemed too button mashy
What ended up getting you through the game? Thank you for taking the time to watch.
1:03:17 "red is a decrease in stat, and "BLUE?!" is an increase" I'm sorry, but such a massive error makes the whole guide unusable!
Wait wait...WAIT. 😂 Is it because the stat increase is green? I do not believe I ever looked at it that closely. It is hilarious that it is actually green. Now you have me questioning why it is green and not blue...who makes it 'not' a red and blue combo!? 🤣
Thank you kind person in helping me to decide to remove this piece of trash video and re-do the entire thing OR I could just do some editing magic and make those numbers blue so I can be right...nah I'll take your advice and trash it. *sarcasm* (just in case for certain people out in the world)
Ok combat system but more in the field of flashy animations and not much substance imo ( Like Arise). Compared to say Graces F or Xillia this games cpmbat isnt as good imo, but its still ok
I played this game on Intense difficulty and it still felt pretty wasy as I almost never wiped. I would definitely say I was not a god of the combat system (which sometimes was not even explained properly). Control Velvet, hold R2 down, and perform artes that say power hit (elemental weaknesses and carried over from xillia and Zestiria). Spirit Drop on Magilou was also pretty OP
When you are out of souls and everything stops I didnt like it. I am not a fan of fatigue systems. Zestiria had one too but it was less annoying. In fact Armatization is just a much better mehcanic imo
Characters csn steal dropped souls which was annoying
Sticking with Velvet is indeed the way to go and it seems like every Tales of game has a more efficient method to get through its combat. Velvet is definitely the way for Berseria (I used her a ton too 😉). Knowing a game's mechanics makes it so much more enjoyable for me though. I almost wanted to play Berseria again after learning the new stuff I learned when making this video.
@@cardadcgt-buildingdecks one thing I didn't like about it is that you only had 4 face buttons but there were 4 elements and the non elemental artes. I set them up like zestiria for the most part
Up: fire (triangle)
Left: water (square)
Right: wind (circle)
Down: earth (x)
I just didnt like how many times I had to keep going into the menu to re arrange the combos
I need more of this in my life. Thank you #CardFather
And you shall receive...as I finish them of course.
I just push all the buttons with this game. Vesperia was fine but this one is a bit much.
Yea, Berseria is a lot mechanics wise and you don't need to know most of it. There are a few core takeaways I hope people have though. Like mystic arte chains as an example.