Hi Dee, I was in the same situation when I installed this inducer motor. I received the motor a day before Christmas. The house had already cooled off to 55 degrees, and we were having 12 people over for our Christmas dinner and gift opening. It sure was a great feeling to get it installed, re-energize the system and have our heat working again to make for a great holiday "gift". Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Hey Jeff, thanks for watching and sharing your comments. We discovered this repair is relatively easy to complete. And by doing so, we saved about $500 for the service fees and up-charge on the part. The furnace has been running just fine since the repair. Good luck on your repair as well.
Hi Sralaine 007 o-007, we are glad the video was helpful and easy to understand. Congrats on saving yourself some money and on getting your furnace back in service.
Hi Sean, thanks for watching and sharing your experience. Yes, it's nice to have a pretty simple fix and the opportunity to save a lot of money. Also great to have the furnace in working order again!
Hi badmantad, thanks for watching and sharing your comments. We are glad the video was so helpful and we wish you great continued service with your furnace.
The hum you are hearing is typical of a PSC induction motor that doesn't start because of a bad capacitor mounted on the inducer housing. Capacitors can be easily tested with a multi-meter. Sure you have a bad motor and not a bad $5 capacitor?
Hi Priya, you bring up some valid points. However, for the typical homeowner who faces this issue, they may not have the multi-meter, nor the skills to adequately test the capacitor. Or if they do, and they replace it, will the product still work correctly, and for how long. You are correct, that it would be a far less expensive repair, if the capacitor is the only issue - but sometimes, a quicker and more sure-fire fix, can justify the moderate cost of replacing the entire component - and then hopefully you'll have years of reliable service and not wonder if the motor will fail in the next couple of months. Thank you for bringing this option to everyone's attention - is certainly is something a more confident homeowner could do, with just a few tools and a little extra time on their hands.
@@VintageVideos2009 Thanks for your reply. Should the capacitor be replaced as a first step without any diagnostics? If replacing the capacitor doesn't fix the hum, you know for sure the inducer motor is bad.
@@priyajakatdar3759 In terms of affordability, the capacitor is the least expensive part, whether it's tested or not. Let's assume the homeowner needs to go out and buy a multi-meter, they will need to spend some money on that item, and some time to purchase a test unit. Again, these issues are not significant, but will delay the repair. Sometimes the furnace fails when it's sub-zero temps here in Wisconsin, with temperatures dipping inside the home below 50 degrees. Homeowners in those situations want a very fast repair usually. These are concerns that affect repairs in the auto service industry - where some prefer a more, longer term reliable repair, with even a 90-day warranty (most parts) vs a less expensive, but less reliable fix. I'm not saying your idea is wrong - and especially if you are confident in your repair skills, and using a multi-meter - replacing a defective capacitor would indeed be viable idea and would save even more money for the DIY homeowner. Thanks for adding to the discussion!
Hi Bobby, I think you're referring to the older electrical cable draped across the front and connected to my thermostat, right? Yup it's old. Still works fine.
Hi Street Cruise, thanks for watching and sharing your question. Technically, you could replace the part and continue using your furnace. However, today's high-efficiency furnaces are so much better, and given you have a very, very old furnace - you really should make the move to find a new furnace.
Thank you, this matches my system exactly I believe. (Mine says Jankel, Inc. Part 119394-00) I'm hoping, guessing, assuming and am pretty certain this is the system/part we are talking here. I'm a rookie, newbie, but this sure seems doable. BUT, {now I sure wish I could attach pictures} the installers have sealed up the PVC pretty good, even sealed the clamp to the PVC. You recommend removing the clamp and even remove the PVC joint here and there. It's real tight in there & I wonder if this recommendation is more of a requirement - Can it be done without removing that clamp and joint? The PVC has something purple on one surface and some clear-like epoxy like material sealing it & the PVC/clamp is sealed with some yellowish, hard but malleable material. I don't think I want to mess with the pressure sensor (hope that's the right name) and hoses jammed up tight against it, but I don't want to start cracking PVC, especially that main PVC joint with the black hose going up into its bottom. FYI - getting me confident to do this myself would definitely be a victory for the DIY community, because here in the DC metro area, this repair has been cause for less than forthright repair shops to attempt to suggest that furnace replacement may be the best course and have led me to expect to be charged upwards of $1300 for the job. I've already found the part for about $150, and even if I pay someone, this video has helped me to know what prices to entertain. Thanks again.
@@johnc2020 Hey John, wow, that's a lot of info! Thank you. OK, with regard to the PVC pipe, the purple and clear compounds you see on the pipe are the primer and epoxy cement, that are used to fuse together pieces of PVC. This is common. You will not be able to separate those pieces, as the bond tends to be permanent. It is relatively tight in there, and for our video, by removing the clamp, it gave us the modest amount of room to remove the old impeller motor. That will by your challenge - to completely remove the old part in order to replace with a new one. Hope you can do so, without cutting the PVC (then having to replace that section too) - but it may be necessary. PVC pipe is inexpensive, but again, in tight quarters you'll need to think over how you will make changed and also not impact surrounding parts or operation. All the best to you!
My Philco furnace with a fasco inducer motor 7021-12001. I turned it on about a month ago , the fasco motor was stuck. I got in the back of the motor and tickeled it loose , put a few drops of sewing machine oil on the sealed bearings. So far so good. Dealer that installed it in 2009 wants 590 bucks. I been looking on the internet for a month. Can anyone help me find that Fasco number motor. gosh darn it. Help , i am a disabeled veteran. Happy Veterans Day.
Hi Diane, thanks for watching and sharing your question. Honestly, the fastest way to get one might be your nearest local furnace repair shop. Or if you are placing one yourself, you'll have to match part numbers with your existing unit, and shop via the internet. Same with the fastest - the internet, next day shipping if you locate the part you are after. Good luck on your repair.
Same problem. What the pro's won't tell you is that your motor is frozen and can be salvaged for the cost of a few drops of oil in the proper place to unfreeze it. Thanks for the video.
Hi Da SuitMan, you bring up a valid point - thanks for watching and sharing your comments. Yes, you could apply some oil and get the motor running again. That certainly could be worth a try, if the bearings are still intact and no other issues are taking place with the inducer motor. Putting the drops of oil in, could keep the motor running and your furnace in operation, until a new part arrives. And if the oil drops fail, by then you would hopefully have a replacement part. At some point, the bearings or shaft will likely fail, and the inducer motor will need a replacement. Thanks for the great tip!
Thanks my inducer motor make loud winner noise I call the company and they want 850 for replacement... I found the motor for 100 dollar I will change by myself don’t look difficult ... also I will change the gasket for the collector box is dripping water ... thanks for the video
Hi Tony MTA - Thanks for watching and sharing your comments with us. Yes, this job can all be accomplished in less than an hour, and perhaps even about 30 minutes, if everything is accessible for you. Good luck also with the collector box.
Hi Tom, no gaskets to replace or reattach on this particular model, but other furnace models and inducer motors may vary. You'll definitely want to take note of all the parts that you access, remove and replace. Thanks for watching and sharing your question.
hi i have a combustion motor for my boiler heater- starts for a couple second then stops. what could be the problem. it doesn't even start 99 percent of time.
Well, there are a lot of items in a boiler system to check, both electrical and mechanical. I'm not sure if you can locate the make/model of your boiler heater, and see if there is something specific to your model that someone else has identified on a RUclips video like ours? Perhaps you still have the owner's manual and can identify the various steps your unit sequences through in order to start up and operate effectively? Thanks for sharing. Wish we had a better answer for you - but it's a lot like a vehicle not starting - there are many reasons for it, including electrical, fuel, computer and more.
Thanks i just got new one and is running now. but the primary motor outside the boiler makes humming sound like it's trying hard to push water through the valves or something, could it be caused by air in the system? how to fix this noisy cir. water pump?@@VintageVideos2009
Hi, appreciate your watching and sharing your comments. Here's the thing, by replacing the broken inducer motor - we "repaired" the furnace. So, yes, in our view a replacement part does in fact repair the furnace and return it to proper working conditions. We hope that makes sense. Thanks again for watching and sharing your thoughts.
HI Justin, great question. Your furnace will continue to cycle on, then fail to ignite, and shut off. This on/off cycling will not get the furnace to restart, and it merely adds a great deal of wear to your furnace system. So, yes, you should turn off the furnace, until after you have replaced the inducer motor part and everything is correctly hooked up. Thanks for watching and sharing your question.
So, if the inducer motor is bad, the igniter will not come on, right? My unit went out. The inducer motor only hums and gets warm to the touch. The igniter/gas does not come on. I assume the inducer has to evacuate the system before the call for gas? Stands to reason. This happened during the night. I hope nothing else was damaged. The thermostat seems to ohm out okay with electrical power off and just powered by the batteries. One other question, does the contractor engage when in heat mode, or does it only engage when unit calls for cold air? Thanks. Note: this is an outside unit (Heil).
Hi Rickey, thanks for the questions. Yes, if the inducer motor is bad, the igniter will not get a signal to come on, thus it will not glow, and no gas will flow into the chamber. Humming and warmth to the touch or hot inducer motor are symptoms of a defective inducer motor. So, if the inducer does not clear the system, their will be no further call for gas/or for the igniter to fire. Honestly, I'm not sure about the contractor sequence, depending on model. However, based on your information about the humming and warm inducer motor, I would be inclined to believe that is the culprit. The furnace in this video was 10 years old, which is a common length of time for a service need/failure of that part. Good luck on your repair and thanks for watching.
VintageVideos2009 Removed the motor and got it to spins little more freely. Put it back in and let it run (with the cover off)while I went to get zip ties to bundle the wires back like they were. Got back home, and it had quit. Wife had turned the stat down. Said it was getting hot in the house. I had it set in like 74. She turned it down to 68. Has not worked since. I will backtrack my steps. Not really surprised. I suspect the bearings are bad , got hot and locked the motor or overworked it. Motor is Fasco model: 1085571. What ohm reading should it show? I suspect the windings may be damaged. Okay, when I put the zip tie back on the wires to bundle them up and maybe keep them from vibrating against the cover, I inadvertently pulled a blue wire off of a relay. It then sent power to the motor and it started very slowly, but it did start and get up to speed then the heater came on. Going to let it run a little check the motor itself to see how hot it gets. Not sure if this is the type that can be oiled or not. It does NOT have “Sealed” stamped on it, but it has no oil oil holes in the back. It does have holes in the front, but there are four, and I doubt they are for oiling. Motor got hot to the touch. I think it is too hot. Can’t lay my hand in it for very long at all. New motor time. :( I will recheck the capacitor, but I do expect it is still good and I will need to change the motor. I really appreciate these videos I do see some similarities in these appliances and dryers which helps me understand these videos a little better.
@@rickeykeeton71 Hi Rickey, given that you got the inducer motor to spin, but it got hot, is an indication that the bearings are likely bad and this is the part you should replace. I would certainly start there, and something tells me this will get your furnace back in business. Good luck my friend.
@@rickeykeeton71 Great news. Based on the humming noise and getting hot, the way you described it - that sure seemed to be your problem. I hope the furnace continues to give you long and reliable service.
any idea? we have condensing high efficiency 90 furnace.our exhust PVC pipe is leaking and seems to be hot.Any idea? what could be cause.Furnace runs and exhaust co outside no issue.
So, the PVC pipe, inside the furnace control box is leaking, or the PVC pipe located - away/outside of the furnace operation box is leaking? If it's inside the furnace box, you may need a technician to look into the more advanced operations of the fuel/manifold/heat exchange/exhaust system. If outside the unit - is there some partial form of blockage in the PVC exhaust line? Or perhaps a seal in the PVC line that has become loose?
Hi, thanks for watching and sharing your question. Yes, it kind of depends on the wiring and mounting. If the motor is mounted to the unit metal to metal and not rubber mounted then it will ground out through the casing. Sometimes there’s an existing ground wire screwed to the unit and motor and you have to undo the wire from the old motor and there should be a spot to attach it to the new motor. Or occasionally they’re grounded directly through the wiring harness. You should be able to obtain instructions from the manufacturer of your replacement inducer motor.
How long are these motors supposed to last? I just replaced mine 5 years ago and the new one just went out this morning... on New Years Day no less.... in a snowstorm. >:[
Hi D P, the timing of your motor failure certainly sucks. We hope you are able to keep your home warm enough until the new motor arrives. Most higher efficiency furnaces today typically have a life of about 15 years. On some models, you could be lucky and have the motor continue as long as the furnace - but in all likelihood, you will need to replace the inducer motor at least once (or in your case twice perhaps) within the life of the furnace. A lot of variables take place of course, including how often the motors cycles and runs and the components that make up your replacement motor. Generally speaking, OEM models tend to be more expensive, but also tend to last longer. Thanks for the question. Best wishes on a fast arrival and easy installation and a return to a nice, cozy household.
Hi Brad, if the gas line is in a convenient location, you can easily shut it off as a precaution. I cannot say for certain with your model of furnace, however, on our video we did not disrupt anything with the gas line, and we made sure to de-energize the system and turn off all power, prior to removing and replacing the inducer motor. You can also consult the operations manual for your particular furnace model is you are feeling uncertain about the proper steps to take. Great question - thanks for watching and sharing with us!
Hello, I have Goodman +90% model GMNTE100-4 I call a HVAC contractor and he replace inducer motor, now after 4 months I hear the same noise like before and some time the I hear motor make a mmmm... sound which mean wont start outside fan blade is blocked, I unblock with a screwdriver to start. I call yesterday an other HVAC contractor and he told me to replace furnace and AC . Furnace and AC are old about 15 years in good shape and very clean. Is normal 4 months of life good for a inducer motor? Which is original part number? Should I replace furnace and AC too?
Hi Alban M, your replacement inducer motor may have a warranty - you should look it up - is it 90 days or 1 year? If one year, it could be replaced for free. Defective parts do happen. As for the furnace itself, 15 years is getting up their it's typical life, but if there are not other issues, and merely an inducer motor - you may want to continue to service this one specific issue. Of course a new furnace should operate with little or no issues for at least 10 years, by simply changing filters and following standard maintenance procedures. As for the part number, you may want to refer to your furnace operations manual - there should be a part listing in it, or you can Google the current part number (usually seen on the side of the part) to see what a suitable replacement would be for that item. Good luck on the repair or replacement of your furnace.
@@VintageVideos2009 thanks for your replay "it is with 90 days" I will replace my furnace, my time digging for solution for save few backs and still I will need to replace soon.
@@albanm7645 Yes, your decision makes sense, especially if you plan to remain in your home for a number of years. Many homeowners might do the same as you, with a 15-year old furnace. Thanks again, for watching and sharing your experience. All the best with your new furnace!
Hi jayemsd, this particular motor replacement was completed in 45 minutes- while shooting this video. Typically about 30 minutes. Of course, different furnace models and complexities may vary. I know you can do it - and save yourself a lot of money!
Hi Jason, thanks for sharing. Yes, the part price varies quite a bit, depending on whether it is OEM spec, refurbished, or "lesser quality/warranty" part. Usually a heating company will perform a full diagnostic on your furnace as well, even though they may highly suspect this is the defective part. That is very understandable and expected. So, totals vary from roughly $250 (very affordable) to over $800 (fast service/below zero/emergency type scenario). Thanks for watching and sharing your information and best of luck on your furnace life and service.
I have the same furnace. I have already replaced mine two times because it gets so noisy. It’s getting noisy again. I wish there was a way to make it quieter without the cost of total replacement
Wow, twice...so I might speculate that there is something more wrong then merely the inducer motor part itself? Perhaps something else is preventing the inducer motor from properly aligning in place? Or something else may be causing friction with the part. But we'll continue to watch this part and see how it holds up. How long has the replacement motor worked, before you needed to replace it again? Just curious. Thanks for watching and sharing your comments.
I just bought the new one in February 2019 and already it sounds like the bearings are going out. I’m not sure what else could cause it because it’s a self contained unit held on with a few bolts. The last one I replaced worked fine but had a high pitch squeal to it. All would be fine if it was in the garage but it’s in a closet in the kitchen so the sounds echos thru the house.
@@deanhere Thanks for sharing. Our replacement was installed Christmas Eve 2018, so it's coming up on one year of service. We'll keep an eye (and ear) on it. Thanks everyone for watching and offering your experiences.
Hi Islam Shafiul, the defective part that was replaced on the furnace is commonly called an inducer motor. If you watch the entire video, you will see that is the part that is removed and replaced. Since the replacement, the furnace has worked perfectly, and we saved hundreds of dollars by doing the work ourselves. Thanks for the question.
@@yairubaldo7630 I'm not sure what you are referring to, you mean where the unit is attached to the PVC pipe? It is a cement compound, if that is what you are referring to? If that is the case, you may have to cut the PVC pipe and then replace it. Good luck on the repair.
@@thorsaquatics6310 @Thor's Aquatics Well, thanks Mike Chiesa, for the helpful advice. I love the RUclips community and how people are willing to help one another!
@@FEDERALSIGNALTECH Hey Mike, auto repairs are much the same way - with a lot of content and DIY vids on RUclips. Sometimes you don't have to know everything - but you do want to learn enough to repair your furnace and save yourself $500 or so, with a 30-minute job. But if a person is not comfortable or feels in doubt, hey, it's fine to call in a professional and get it all done.
Hi Nicholas Dupont, yes, that's the spot on the video where the replacement begins. The video prior to 3:48 shows what to look for, what the defective inducer motor sounds like, if it may be hot, etc and how to turn off the furnace prior to beginning the replacement itself. Thanks for watching and I hope your repair works well and resolves the problem.
Hi Nicholas, thanks for that observation. I actually "repaired" the furnace, by replacing the inducer motor. I realize these are somewhat trivial language, but the idea is that you can save a lot of money on a furnace repair, by spending about 30 minutes to replace an inducer motor. Thanks for watching. I hope the video was helping - in getting your furnace back in service and saved you hundreds of dollars.
The most important lesson in all of this is that HEIL makes horrible High Energy furnaces! I have an LENNOX that is 20 yrs old and have never replaced any motors. HEIL is truly a bad company to buy from! An inducer motor should last for years and years with sealed bearings. They are using cheap parts and owners are paying the price for it.
Hi Dave, Thanks for watching and sharing your comments. It is disappointing when a component fails, we are very thankful however, that this part replacement was not overly expensive and the procedure is relatively simple. This particular furnace will need another 10 years of service to determine whether the much lower original cost(compared to Lennox) will be offset by further issues and parts in the future. Congrats on 20 years of trouble-free service.
@@VintageVideos2009 So this must be one of those, you get what you pay for, lessons we all learn the hard way. But I suppose that as a maintenance tech one would rather see poorly manufactured systems that require call outs, as that is what puts food on their tables. Lots of money to be made reselling those parts at service call pricing. BTW those claustrophobic rat,spider and snake infested crawl spaces they are all yours!
@@davenone7312 Yes, that can be one lesson for sure. Another lesson here can be, that I'm a guy with no affiliations whatsoever to any furnace. In fact, I'm an Average Joe, and not a maintenance tech. Just a guy who asked some questions, discovered this issue, and saved myself as much as $500 by doing the work myself. That's my lesson to share - Ask questions, maybe you'll save yourself a nice wad of cash - "keep learning!" It's all good. Everyone can choose what they want to buy and their reasons why. Thanks again for watching and sharing some helpful advice.
Hi Dustin, we appreciate your comment, sorry for the confusion. Our title is about the "Furnace Not Working" and by replacing the bad inducer motor, we have "repaired" the furnace, rather than disassembling, removing, reinstalling parts within the inducer motor. Some people do opt to remove and replace specific parts within the inducer motor - however, obtaining a new, complete inducer motor assembly provides a full warranty vs repairing a single part within the motor - and having it fail again, within 90 days if another part fails. Giving that our inducer motor was already 10 years old - it made a lot more sense to remove the entire assembly, replace it - and thus "Repair our Furnace" to proper working condition. Hope that better explains it all - but it's a bit much for a title on the video.
I just did this job. Finding a motor over during Chritmas holidays was fun.
Hi Dee, I was in the same situation when I installed this inducer motor. I received the motor a day before Christmas. The house had already cooled off to 55 degrees, and we were having 12 people over for our Christmas dinner and gift opening. It sure was a great feeling to get it installed, re-energize the system and have our heat working again to make for a great holiday "gift". Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
good video.. he gets right to the point of things 🙂
Hi Eddy, thank you for watching our video and sharing your kind words. We hope the video was helpful in getting your furnace back into proper service.
Thank you so much sir. I replaced it with your youtube.
That's awesome. So happy the video was helpful. Thanks for watching and sharing your comments.
Thanks man u really know what ur doing God bless!!
Hi Angel, thanks for watching and sharing your kind words! I hope your furnace repair keeps running for years.
Good job doing this today .Thank you
Hey Jeff, thanks for watching and sharing your comments. We discovered this repair is relatively easy to complete. And by doing so, we saved about $500 for the service fees and up-charge on the part. The furnace has been running just fine since the repair. Good luck on your repair as well.
Thank you for sharing and very good explanation..... That makes it easier to understand. Exactly what happened to my gas furnace. Great job 👍💪
Hi Sralaine 007 o-007, we are glad the video was helpful and easy to understand. Congrats on saving yourself some money and on getting your furnace back in service.
Thank you. I have the same furnace, and same problem. Easy fix!
Hi Sean, thanks for watching and sharing your experience. Yes, it's nice to have a pretty simple fix and the opportunity to save a lot of money. Also great to have the furnace in working order again!
Straight forward and simple.thank you the tutorial.very informative....
Hi badmantad, thanks for watching and sharing your comments. We are glad the video was so helpful and we wish you great continued service with your furnace.
The hum you are hearing is typical of a PSC induction motor that doesn't start because of a bad capacitor mounted on the inducer housing. Capacitors can be easily tested with a multi-meter. Sure you have a bad motor and not a bad $5 capacitor?
Hi Priya, you bring up some valid points. However, for the typical homeowner who faces this issue, they may not have the multi-meter, nor the skills to adequately test the capacitor. Or if they do, and they replace it, will the product still work correctly, and for how long. You are correct, that it would be a far less expensive repair, if the capacitor is the only issue - but sometimes, a quicker and more sure-fire fix, can justify the moderate cost of replacing the entire component - and then hopefully you'll have years of reliable service and not wonder if the motor will fail in the next couple of months. Thank you for bringing this option to everyone's attention - is certainly is something a more confident homeowner could do, with just a few tools and a little extra time on their hands.
@@VintageVideos2009 Thanks for your reply. Should the capacitor be replaced as a first step without any diagnostics? If replacing the capacitor doesn't fix the hum, you know for sure the inducer motor is bad.
@@priyajakatdar3759 In terms of affordability, the capacitor is the least expensive part, whether it's tested or not. Let's assume the homeowner needs to go out and buy a multi-meter, they will need to spend some money on that item, and some time to purchase a test unit. Again, these issues are not significant, but will delay the repair. Sometimes the furnace fails when it's sub-zero temps here in Wisconsin, with temperatures dipping inside the home below 50 degrees. Homeowners in those situations want a very fast repair usually. These are concerns that affect repairs in the auto service industry - where some prefer a more, longer term reliable repair, with even a 90-day warranty (most parts) vs a less expensive, but less reliable fix. I'm not saying your idea is wrong - and especially if you are confident in your repair skills, and using a multi-meter - replacing a defective capacitor would indeed be viable idea and would save even more money for the DIY homeowner. Thanks for adding to the discussion!
i think moving away the pressure switch first is better
Hey Barney, certainly a good option and very valid suggestion. Whatever your are more comfortable with. Thanks for watching and sharing your comments.
is that a vine in front?
Hi Bobby, I think you're referring to the older electrical cable draped across the front and connected to my thermostat, right? Yup it's old. Still works fine.
When enducor motor goes bad do you need to change the whole furnace? My furnace is over 40 yrs old
Hi Street Cruise, thanks for watching and sharing your question. Technically, you could replace the part and continue using your furnace. However, today's high-efficiency furnaces are so much better, and given you have a very, very old furnace - you really should make the move to find a new furnace.
Thank you, this matches my system exactly I believe. (Mine says Jankel, Inc. Part 119394-00) I'm hoping, guessing, assuming and am pretty certain this is the system/part we are talking here. I'm a rookie, newbie, but this sure seems doable. BUT, {now I sure wish I could attach pictures} the installers have sealed up the PVC pretty good, even sealed the clamp to the PVC. You recommend removing the clamp and even remove the PVC joint here and there. It's real tight in there & I wonder if this recommendation is more of a requirement - Can it be done without removing that clamp and joint? The PVC has something purple on one surface and some clear-like epoxy like material sealing it & the PVC/clamp is sealed with some yellowish, hard but malleable material. I don't think I want to mess with the pressure sensor (hope that's the right name) and hoses jammed up tight against it, but I don't want to start cracking PVC, especially that main PVC joint with the black hose going up into its bottom. FYI - getting me confident to do this myself would definitely be a victory for the DIY community, because here in the DC metro area, this repair has been cause for less than forthright repair shops to attempt to suggest that furnace replacement may be the best course and have led me to expect to be charged upwards of $1300 for the job. I've already found the part for about $150, and even if I pay someone, this video has helped me to know what prices to entertain. Thanks again.
Sorry - Pressure Switch not Pressure Sensor
@@johnc2020 Hey John, wow, that's a lot of info! Thank you. OK, with regard to the PVC pipe, the purple and clear compounds you see on the pipe are the primer and epoxy cement, that are used to fuse together pieces of PVC. This is common. You will not be able to separate those pieces, as the bond tends to be permanent. It is relatively tight in there, and for our video, by removing the clamp, it gave us the modest amount of room to remove the old impeller motor. That will by your challenge - to completely remove the old part in order to replace with a new one. Hope you can do so, without cutting the PVC (then having to replace that section too) - but it may be necessary. PVC pipe is inexpensive, but again, in tight quarters you'll need to think over how you will make changed and also not impact surrounding parts or operation. All the best to you!
My Philco furnace with a fasco inducer motor 7021-12001. I turned it on about a month ago , the fasco motor was stuck. I got in the back of the motor and tickeled it loose , put a few drops of sewing machine oil on the sealed bearings. So far so good. Dealer that installed it in 2009 wants 590 bucks. I been looking on the internet for a month. Can anyone help me find that Fasco number motor. gosh darn it. Help , i am a disabeled veteran. Happy Veterans Day.
How much is a.new triangular tube inducer motor n where is the fastest way 2 get it?
Hi Diane, thanks for watching and sharing your question. Honestly, the fastest way to get one might be your nearest local furnace repair shop. Or if you are placing one yourself, you'll have to match part numbers with your existing unit, and shop via the internet. Same with the fastest - the internet, next day shipping if you locate the part you are after. Good luck on your repair.
Same problem. What the pro's won't tell you is that your motor is frozen and can be salvaged for the cost of a few drops of oil in the proper place to unfreeze it. Thanks for the video.
Hi Da SuitMan, you bring up a valid point - thanks for watching and sharing your comments. Yes, you could apply some oil and get the motor running again. That certainly could be worth a try, if the bearings are still intact and no other issues are taking place with the inducer motor. Putting the drops of oil in, could keep the motor running and your furnace in operation, until a new part arrives. And if the oil drops fail, by then you would hopefully have a replacement part. At some point, the bearings or shaft will likely fail, and the inducer motor will need a replacement. Thanks for the great tip!
Thanks my inducer motor make loud winner noise I call the company and they want 850 for replacement... I found the motor for 100 dollar I will change by myself don’t look difficult ... also I will change the gasket for the collector box is dripping water ... thanks for the video
Hi Tony MTA - Thanks for watching and sharing your comments with us. Yes, this job can all be accomplished in less than an hour, and perhaps even about 30 minutes, if everything is accessible for you. Good luck also with the collector box.
Any Gaskets to the housing
Hi Tom, no gaskets to replace or reattach on this particular model, but other furnace models and inducer motors may vary. You'll definitely want to take note of all the parts that you access, remove and replace. Thanks for watching and sharing your question.
That consecrate T the vent blower is connected to is supposed to be glued to the vent pipe. Go back and fix it.
Hi Richard, thanks for watching our video and catching the gluing issue.
hi i have a combustion motor for my boiler heater- starts for a couple second then stops. what could be the problem. it doesn't even start 99 percent of time.
Well, there are a lot of items in a boiler system to check, both electrical and mechanical. I'm not sure if you can locate the make/model of your boiler heater, and see if there is something specific to your model that someone else has identified on a RUclips video like ours? Perhaps you still have the owner's manual and can identify the various steps your unit sequences through in order to start up and operate effectively? Thanks for sharing. Wish we had a better answer for you - but it's a lot like a vehicle not starting - there are many reasons for it, including electrical, fuel, computer and more.
Thanks i just got new one and is running now. but the primary motor outside the boiler makes humming sound like it's trying hard to push water through the valves or something, could it be caused by air in the system? how to fix this noisy cir. water pump?@@VintageVideos2009
this is not repairing instructions, this is how to replace a broken motor instruction
Hi, appreciate your watching and sharing your comments. Here's the thing, by replacing the broken inducer motor - we "repaired" the furnace. So, yes, in our view a replacement part does in fact repair the furnace and return it to proper working conditions. We hope that makes sense. Thanks again for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Should we turn the furnace completely off while we wait for the replacement part?
HI Justin, great question. Your furnace will continue to cycle on, then fail to ignite, and shut off. This on/off cycling will not get the furnace to restart, and it merely adds a great deal of wear to your furnace system. So, yes, you should turn off the furnace, until after you have replaced the inducer motor part and everything is correctly hooked up. Thanks for watching and sharing your question.
So, if the inducer motor is bad, the igniter will not come on, right?
My unit went out. The inducer motor only hums and gets warm to the touch. The igniter/gas does not come on. I assume the inducer has to evacuate the system before the call for gas?
Stands to reason.
This happened during the night. I hope nothing else was damaged.
The thermostat seems to ohm out okay with electrical power off and just powered by the batteries.
One other question, does the contractor engage when in heat mode, or does it only engage when unit calls for cold air?
Thanks.
Note: this is an outside unit (Heil).
Hi Rickey, thanks for the questions. Yes, if the inducer motor is bad, the igniter will not get a signal to come on, thus it will not glow, and no gas will flow into the chamber. Humming and warmth to the touch or hot inducer motor are symptoms of a defective inducer motor. So, if the inducer does not clear the system, their will be no further call for gas/or for the igniter to fire. Honestly, I'm not sure about the contractor sequence, depending on model. However, based on your information about the humming and warm inducer motor, I would be inclined to believe that is the culprit. The furnace in this video was 10 years old, which is a common length of time for a service need/failure of that part. Good luck on your repair and thanks for watching.
VintageVideos2009 Removed the motor and got it to spins little more freely. Put it back in and let it run (with the cover off)while I went to get zip ties to bundle the wires back like they were.
Got back home, and it had quit. Wife had turned the stat down. Said it was getting hot in the house. I had it set in like 74. She turned it down to 68. Has not worked since.
I will backtrack my steps. Not really surprised. I suspect the bearings are bad , got hot and locked the motor or overworked it.
Motor is Fasco model: 1085571. What ohm reading should it show?
I suspect the windings may be damaged.
Okay, when I put the zip tie back on the wires to bundle them up and maybe keep them from vibrating against the cover, I inadvertently pulled a blue wire off of a relay.
It then sent power to the motor and it started very slowly, but it did start and get up to speed then the heater came on.
Going to let it run a little check the motor itself to see how hot it gets.
Not sure if this is the type that can be oiled or not. It does NOT have “Sealed” stamped on it, but it has no oil oil holes in the back. It does have holes in the front, but there are four, and I doubt they are for oiling.
Motor got hot to the touch. I think it is too hot. Can’t lay my hand in it for very long at all.
New motor time. :(
I will recheck the capacitor, but I do expect it is still good and I will need to change the motor.
I really appreciate these videos
I do see some similarities in these appliances and dryers which helps me understand these videos a little better.
@@rickeykeeton71 Hi Rickey, given that you got the inducer motor to spin, but it got hot, is an indication that the bearings are likely bad and this is the part you should replace. I would certainly start there, and something tells me this will get your furnace back in business. Good luck my friend.
VintageVideos2009 replaced the motor. Seems to be fine now.
@@rickeykeeton71 Great news. Based on the humming noise and getting hot, the way you described it - that sure seemed to be your problem. I hope the furnace continues to give you long and reliable service.
any idea? we have condensing high efficiency 90 furnace.our exhust PVC pipe is leaking and seems to be hot.Any idea? what could be cause.Furnace runs and exhaust co outside no issue.
So, the PVC pipe, inside the furnace control box is leaking, or the PVC pipe located - away/outside of the furnace operation box is leaking? If it's inside the furnace box, you may need a technician to look into the more advanced operations of the fuel/manifold/heat exchange/exhaust system. If outside the unit - is there some partial form of blockage in the PVC exhaust line? Or perhaps a seal in the PVC line that has become loose?
Replacement inducer motor didn't come with a grounding wire. Do I need it? (Original was 25 years old)
Hi, thanks for watching and sharing your question.
Yes, it kind of depends on the wiring and mounting. If the motor is mounted to the unit metal to metal and not rubber mounted then it will ground out through the casing. Sometimes there’s an existing ground wire screwed to the unit and motor and you have to undo the wire from the old motor and there should be a spot to attach it to the new motor. Or occasionally they’re grounded directly through the wiring harness. You should be able to obtain instructions from the manufacturer of your replacement inducer motor.
How long are these motors supposed to last? I just replaced mine 5 years ago and the new one just went out this morning... on New Years Day no less.... in a snowstorm. >:[
Hi D P, the timing of your motor failure certainly sucks. We hope you are able to keep your home warm enough until the new motor arrives. Most higher efficiency furnaces today typically have a life of about 15 years. On some models, you could be lucky and have the motor continue as long as the furnace - but in all likelihood, you will need to replace the inducer motor at least once (or in your case twice perhaps) within the life of the furnace. A lot of variables take place of course, including how often the motors cycles and runs and the components that make up your replacement motor. Generally speaking, OEM models tend to be more expensive, but also tend to last longer. Thanks for the question. Best wishes on a fast arrival and easy installation and a return to a nice, cozy household.
Does the gas need to be shut off before doing this replacement?
Hi Brad, if the gas line is in a convenient location, you can easily shut it off as a precaution. I cannot say for certain with your model of furnace, however, on our video we did not disrupt anything with the gas line, and we made sure to de-energize the system and turn off all power, prior to removing and replacing the inducer motor. You can also consult the operations manual for your particular furnace model is you are feeling uncertain about the proper steps to take. Great question - thanks for watching and sharing with us!
Vent is not glue, not removed ,pressor switches to remove induced moteur
Thanks for watching and sharing your helpful advice!
Hello, I have Goodman +90% model GMNTE100-4 I call a HVAC contractor and he replace inducer motor, now after 4 months I hear the same noise like before and some time the I hear motor make a mmmm... sound which mean wont start outside fan blade is blocked, I unblock with a screwdriver to start.
I call yesterday an other HVAC contractor and he told me to replace furnace and AC . Furnace and AC are old about 15 years in good shape and very clean.
Is normal 4 months of life good for a inducer motor?
Which is original part number?
Should I replace furnace and AC too?
Hi Alban M, your replacement inducer motor may have a warranty - you should look it up - is it 90 days or 1 year? If one year, it could be replaced for free. Defective parts do happen. As for the furnace itself, 15 years is getting up their it's typical life, but if there are not other issues, and merely an inducer motor - you may want to continue to service this one specific issue. Of course a new furnace should operate with little or no issues for at least 10 years, by simply changing filters and following standard maintenance procedures. As for the part number, you may want to refer to your furnace operations manual - there should be a part listing in it, or you can Google the current part number (usually seen on the side of the part) to see what a suitable replacement would be for that item. Good luck on the repair or replacement of your furnace.
@@VintageVideos2009 thanks for your replay "it is with 90 days" I will replace my furnace, my time digging for solution for save few backs and still I will need to replace soon.
@@albanm7645 Yes, your decision makes sense, especially if you plan to remain in your home for a number of years. Many homeowners might do the same as you, with a 15-year old furnace. Thanks again, for watching and sharing your experience. All the best with your new furnace!
How long does a job like this normally take?
Hi jayemsd, this particular motor replacement was completed in 45 minutes- while shooting this video. Typically about 30 minutes. Of course, different furnace models and complexities may vary. I know you can do it - and save yourself a lot of money!
@@VintageVideos2009 thank you so much!
@@jayemsd You're very welcome - I hope it all goes smoothly for you and saves you some money too!
In case anyone is wondering, it cost me $315 total (parts + labor) for me to have this part replaced professionally.
Hi Jason, thanks for sharing. Yes, the part price varies quite a bit, depending on whether it is OEM spec, refurbished, or "lesser quality/warranty" part. Usually a heating company will perform a full diagnostic on your furnace as well, even though they may highly suspect this is the defective part. That is very understandable and expected. So, totals vary from roughly $250 (very affordable) to over $800 (fast service/below zero/emergency type scenario). Thanks for watching and sharing your information and best of luck on your furnace life and service.
Hahaha
I have the same furnace. I have already replaced mine two times because it gets so noisy. It’s getting noisy again. I wish there was a way to make it quieter without the cost of total replacement
Wow, twice...so I might speculate that there is something more wrong then merely the inducer motor part itself? Perhaps something else is preventing the inducer motor from properly aligning in place? Or something else may be causing friction with the part. But we'll continue to watch this part and see how it holds up. How long has the replacement motor worked, before you needed to replace it again? Just curious. Thanks for watching and sharing your comments.
I just bought the new one in February 2019 and already it sounds like the bearings are going out. I’m not sure what else could cause it because it’s a self contained unit held on with a few bolts. The last one I replaced worked fine but had a high pitch squeal to it. All would be fine if it was in the garage but it’s in a closet in the kitchen so the sounds echos thru the house.
@@deanhere Thanks for sharing. Our replacement was installed Christmas Eve 2018, so it's coming up on one year of service. We'll keep an eye (and ear) on it. Thanks everyone for watching and offering your experiences.
What did you inducer motor. You didn't tell
Hi Islam Shafiul, the defective part that was replaced on the furnace is commonly called an inducer motor. If you watch the entire video, you will see that is the part that is removed and replaced. Since the replacement, the furnace has worked perfectly, and we saved hundreds of dollars by doing the work ourselves. Thanks for the question.
in mine they used some type of red sealer why did they and what kind os sealer is it?
@@yairubaldo7630 I'm not sure what you are referring to, you mean where the unit is attached to the PVC pipe? It is a cement compound, if that is what you are referring to? If that is the case, you may have to cut the PVC pipe and then replace it. Good luck on the repair.
I'm surprised they didn't use a FASCO motor they are more reliable and are more quiet .
Hi Mike, thanks for watching and sharing your expertise. I'm sure future viewers will take a look at that.
My replacement was a fasco, last over 10 years. The new one is much quieter too.
@@thorsaquatics6310 @Thor's Aquatics Well, thanks Mike Chiesa, for the helpful advice. I love the RUclips community and how people are willing to help one another!
I really don't know much about HVACR all I know just the basics all information is what I have learned on the RUclips platform.
@@FEDERALSIGNALTECH Hey Mike, auto repairs are much the same way - with a lot of content and DIY vids on RUclips. Sometimes you don't have to know everything - but you do want to learn enough to repair your furnace and save yourself $500 or so, with a 30-minute job. But if a person is not comfortable or feels in doubt, hey, it's fine to call in a professional and get it all done.
03:48 Replace inducer motor
Hi Nicholas Dupont, yes, that's the spot on the video where the replacement begins. The video prior to 3:48 shows what to look for, what the defective inducer motor sounds like, if it may be hot, etc and how to turn off the furnace prior to beginning the replacement itself. Thanks for watching and I hope your repair works well and resolves the problem.
I didn't see you "repair" the inducer motor. You just replaced it.
Hi Nicholas, thanks for that observation. I actually "repaired" the furnace, by replacing the inducer motor. I realize these are somewhat trivial language, but the idea is that you can save a lot of money on a furnace repair, by spending about 30 minutes to replace an inducer motor. Thanks for watching. I hope the video was helping - in getting your furnace back in service and saved you hundreds of dollars.
The most important lesson in all of this is that HEIL makes horrible High Energy furnaces! I have an LENNOX that is 20 yrs old and have never replaced any motors. HEIL is truly a bad company to buy from! An inducer motor should last for years and years with sealed bearings. They are using cheap parts and owners are paying the price for it.
Hi Dave, Thanks for watching and sharing your comments. It is disappointing when a component fails, we are very thankful however, that this part replacement was not overly expensive and the procedure is relatively simple. This particular furnace will need another 10 years of service to determine whether the much lower original cost(compared to Lennox) will be offset by further issues and parts in the future. Congrats on 20 years of trouble-free service.
@@VintageVideos2009 So this must be one of those, you get what you pay for, lessons we all learn the hard way. But I suppose that as a maintenance tech one would rather see poorly manufactured systems that require call outs, as that is what puts food on their tables. Lots of money to be made reselling those parts at service call pricing. BTW those claustrophobic rat,spider and snake infested crawl spaces they are all yours!
@@davenone7312 Yes, that can be one lesson for sure. Another lesson here can be, that I'm a guy with no affiliations whatsoever to any furnace. In fact, I'm an Average Joe, and not a maintenance tech. Just a guy who asked some questions, discovered this issue, and saved myself as much as $500 by doing the work myself. That's my lesson to share - Ask questions, maybe you'll save yourself a nice wad of cash - "keep learning!" It's all good. Everyone can choose what they want to buy and their reasons why. Thanks again for watching and sharing some helpful advice.
How do you know so much about Heil furnaces and their reliability? Are you a qualified HVAC repair man?
I thought he was going to repair the motor. He replaced it. bad title
Hi Dustin, we appreciate your comment, sorry for the confusion. Our title is about the "Furnace Not Working" and by replacing the bad inducer motor, we have "repaired" the furnace, rather than disassembling, removing, reinstalling parts within the inducer motor. Some people do opt to remove and replace specific parts within the inducer motor - however, obtaining a new, complete inducer motor assembly provides a full warranty vs repairing a single part within the motor - and having it fail again, within 90 days if another part fails. Giving that our inducer motor was already 10 years old - it made a lot more sense to remove the entire assembly, replace it - and thus "Repair our Furnace" to proper working condition. Hope that better explains it all - but it's a bit much for a title on the video.