Honestly, I see internet connectivity as a negative with most appliances. As a technologically literate programmer I'm aware of all the extra points of failure of "smart" products and I usually make a conscious effort to avoid them if I can. There's too many horror-stories of devices bricked by updates and devices that lose functionality or stop working entirely because the company stops maintaining their software. In fact: those scenarios seem more likely than updates actually improving functionality, because most companies lock such updates behind newer models, expecting you to buy a new model to get access.
Thanks for saving me $500 lol. Had a Bravetti Rotisserie oven for 10 years, an absolute beast. But the old guy is tired and wearing down. I loved the large capacity and versatility with element control (top and bottom), plus convection. Never going back to full size oven at home. Ninja XL Pro looks like a winner.
In that matter are you able to set the temperature as hight as you want ? without any restriction of the reheat mode ? (i'm planning to get the ninja also)
I really like that you didn't just pick a 'best' oven, but fully explained what each one brought to the table. As advanced as the June oven is, the ninja actually fits my needs (and, more importantly, my little apartment kitchen) best. I have an immersion circulator for precision work, and my main oven for baking (which generally requires at least one half-sheet pan anyway); the ninja would let me get rid of the air fryer, while also being able to use two racks even in a smaller job. My needs will probably change in the future, but for now, it's what makes the most sense for me.
Agree, ummm, I think most of us like, ummm, ALREADY HAVE AN OVEN! So we're all set for baking and roasting. It's the other stuff we need to do, like air frying without those awful plastic containers, and I sure could use a dehydrator, and a whole bunch of other functions. Does it prove bread? And it's only 199 at Walmart.
I've owned the Ninja XL for just over a year. I can not recommend it. All reviews I see for this oven are not from daily use long term. I loved the size of the oven. It worked well when it worked although it does not heat as evenly as advertised. The problem is just after a year it no longer functions which is crazy for the $300 price tag. 1 year of use caused a malfunctioning fan that started as a strange noise and became just not working. Past the warranty there are no parts to buy to fix it and no repair option from Ninja. Very disappointing. Now I'm researching for a replacement air fry oven as its something I use all the time, this didn't last as long as my much cheaper Cuisinart.
Do not buy the June oven. It breaks every 2 years. We’ve gone through 3 replacement and now they are asking us to pay $450 w/ a 60 day warranty. Stay away from June.
So, it turns out that *eventually* the surface temp and oven temp become the same with 100% humidity, but it takes quite a while. Even inside a sous vide bag the surface temp is lower than the bath temp for a long time-this is why you can actually speed sous vide by raising the bath temp a couple degrees and not overcook things. Getting into the science of all this, plus looking at all the features of the Anova is just a big job. Adding it to this review would have been like including a Ferrari in a series on reasonable mid-sized cars.
I own both the Breville Joule and the Anova Precision Oven. The Joule purchase was a mistake - the Anova beats it in every way for all kinds of cooking. The Anova does have a bigger footprint, and whoever decided to put touch controls on the handle should be fired. But this was a great series of videos and it achieved its intended goal: I ended up purchasing the Combustion thermometer!
@@BillAckerman Hm- i came to this review because of the Anova Precision oven. It was always on the top spot of my shopping list- but I just watched a video of American test kitchen where it totally lost. @chrisyoung over to you… please test!
Fantastic job with this series, it's raised my level of thought about my own appliances a little bit, like how they work and what I want/need them to do. I really enjoy how you present the science and real-world cooking pros and cons of these devices and communicate your vision of what truly 'smart' kitchen tech is/ought to be.
i was most shocked they couldnt reach the stated 500 degrees temperature with 2 falling far short. clearly it has to do with insulation and heat loss since you said the outside of the ovens were hot to the touch. Missing a temperature claim in an empty oven is straight up deception.
Interesting videos, thank you. I kind of want a June Oven, but the company appears not to be selling them anymore and hasn't for months as far as I can tell, that's out. In the end, I kind of just want a good oven that can reach and hold high temps and that has a decent fan (that I can turn off). That doesn't seem to be available.
It's really interesting to me how well engineered both of the Ninja products you've reviewed are given that it's more of a budget brand. Definitely some great staff they've got.
I would be interested on reviews of built in ovens from leading manufacturers always comparing the top model gaggenau/wolf/miele/samsung/aeg/bosch/siemens and others
Do you have thoughts on the Anova Precision Oven? I’m curious how moisture and the thermometer impact your perception (but recognize the conflict of interest with the probe function, too). How do steam/combi functions review out in your opinion?
Honestly I’ve owned the non-joule version of the Breville Smart oven air pro and have found it to be great for absolutely everything including air frying and reasonably large roasts BUT given the quality and savviness of their design in appliances overall, I’m shocked they still haven’t included a port for a thermocouple. It would seem like the most obviously breville thing to do!
I agree, pretty glaring miss. I have one of these ovens and I have to use my own probe and set alarms up independent of the oven's process. They need to collab with @ChrisYoungCooks and wirelessly integrate with his thermometer 🙂
@@shiyanwijesekera4867 at which point you’re temp profiling your cooking, you think you’d want to be able to actually know what temp the food is. they’re putting one in tho. it’s coming.
@@shiyanwijesekera4867I think, for example, the rotisserie feature could be a whole lot smarter. It's not the end of the world, but I'm probably not going to use features I paid for because of it.
Dude, $900 for a damn air fryer, are you shitting me? You can get an induction stove top with a convection oven for around $1000 these days. I get it if you can't have a full size stove, but holy shit if you can? Spending $900 on an air fryer is just bonkers at that point.
My biggest problem is that you didn't cover cleaning. I owned the Ninja Foodi and own a Breville pro. Both are good at first, whenever it comes to clea, ing they are a nightmare. The Ninja I had to cook at temperature set at 400° F but rarely achieved that temperature. Breville about the same but took longer to cook. I had the Ninja less than a year before it barely could reach 350°F so through it away. Breville is about the same plus also hard to clean, but I can use my baking dishes, unlike Ninja, which is not wide enough and too high. But to me, it boils down to cleaning, which takes a lot of time, which defeats saving on cooking time. Needs a self-cleaning feature that works for the cost of these machines. As for the June oven, I don't own it, so I can't say anything about it, but if it doesn't have a self-cleaning feature, I won't buy one. When you guys do a review, involve cleaning in your review after 6 months of use. From my experience with these two I have owned, they must pay you for the review you give on these products. I give Ninja a D, and so far, Breville is a B, but that may go down since I have owned it 3 months.
I often wonder why there isn't an oven that just lets us manually control the elements and fan speed. It's annoying that you have to learn what each "feature" actually does and then try to remember that. Same applies to everything like instant pots, too. Keep all the buttons for the normal user for sure, but throw us a bone.
New watcher here 👋🏾. I can honestly say this is the best review video of any product I have ever seen. I got a good laugh out of “despite its fairly awful name..” when talking about the ninja 😂
I have a Breville toaster oven that's at least 6+ years old and it's pretty great. I have a bunch of their appliances and love the brand. I think for the price, if the Ninja could have reached 480f temps it would be a no brainer and I'd buy one tomorrow. The June just seems a bit over priced to have a limiting feature like the poor convection fans, fix that and I'd actually consider it.
i expected a more blatant 'punchline' around the best 'smart oven' being any basic model, paired with your thermometer. seems like you're crediting the audience for being smart enough to connect the dots :)
Seriously. I felt respected watching this. I can only imagine what being able to integrate some of these ovens' functionality with the combustion thermometer would produce, and I think the fact that the thought's occurred to me at all is the best marketing anyone could do! Great video series regardless, it's got me thinking about my own appliances and how they work, and what I actually need at home.
Yeah, exactly, I think that's the point: what makes a smart oven? Knowing when to take your food out! Hence: predictive thermometer and "any oven you already own". 🤣
Yeah, and my crystal ball says this call is about to happen or has happened: Breville Product Manager: Hi Chris, lovely series, great job comparing them. But we need to talk about integrating your thermometer with our ecosystem. Was thinking that since they both connect to smartphone apps and the cloud, we could rev the software (cloud + apps) to provide optional integration between the two for owners who have both. That way our autopilot can dynamically adapt based on the actual temperatures from your probe. If you cut us a good deal, we might even offer it as a special bundled set. ...
A great presentation. June is quite impressive. I am inclined towards getting the Anova Precision for its sous vide and steam feature. Good to know that you plan to make a video on it. BTW, I am happy customer of the Predictive Meat Themometer. I am surprised, I have not seen BBQ channels toying with it yet.
Would love an update now that June is no longer making ovens and many, including myself, have a Gen2 oven that can't receive updates after factory reset and the oven no longer works.
Fantastic series; I personally would keep the Ninja too. Considering that the June uses cameras, I wonder if temperature control behaves differently with food in the oven. The industry needs more independent testing, keep up the good work!
Hey Chris - just to let you know for some reason this video's maximum resolution is 720p, whereas the other videos in the series were 1080p. Possible mis-export?
Very interesting series Chris. I see the wall outlet as the biggest drawback by limiting power. I'm more interested in Steam Ovens and look forward to you testing them.
another super good review.........why no Anova precision oven review ? Conflict of interest b/c your immersion circulator , or b/c its more a smart steam /combi oven. I'd go for the Ninja and figure out the stop fan hack, based on your 4 reviews, not merely due to price point, but the semi integrated if not highly accurate temp probe, the very good convection heat/fan footprint and height pros......and to be less wed to my freaking phone. I have the Anova and its neato but too app centric/ for me. Needs some "analog" controls.
Internet connectivity has also the chance to brick an appliance when the vendor decides it wants to move on. Being a software engineer I am not buying a smart appliance. If my smart thermometer bricks that is one thing but if my oven ($900) bricks it is a different story. I bought the Meat-It thermometer and it is a piece of junk - hard to pair, uses batteries to charge and does not show the correct temperature.
Your detailed use of each oven was great. I love Breville products, but I own and use the Ninja oven. It is used more than my stove oven weekly and comes in very handy for extra dishes on holidays.
Love this channel but quite often flick past before the video finishes because there’s no Celsius info Even some text overlaid on the screen in post would make this channel 👌🏽
Great series, Chris! Four more reasons why you do the best and most informative reviews of cooking tools. I learn so much with each review. But per Lee's post below, do you know what's up with June having no ovens for sale, with no mention on their website about a reason or when a restock might happen. Being the most technically advanced of the ovens, I suppose supply chain issues with getting needed parts could be why.
Suggestion for a new video. I have an Anova Precision oven, I'd really appreciate a review, or suggestions on when to use steam and at what settings, maybe a good chance to talk about the science of steam ovens.
Miele, Electrolux, V-Zug, Wolf/Subzero have build-in ovens/steamers that also regulate steam and grill and should surpass this, some had thermometers integrated since the early 2000s . Not a compeition for the 300$ oven but with the 900$ price tag these ovens should offer better values for money.
This channel is sublime. It is beyond delightful to be able to learn from one the best (if not the best) in the technical aspects of cooking. You always back up the things you say with facts and easy to follow animated or real demonstrations. Combine that with well-produced videos and a soothing voice and you can easily binge watch this channel and feel quite a bit smarter after. 🥰
I was unable to find a June oven to buy, so emailed the company. Here's what I got: "We do want to let you know that we will not continue manufacturing new JuneOvens." Bummer.
Great series and video. Would like to offer one bit of constructive criticism though, when discussing temps, it would be great to have the celcius on the screen too. Doesn't need to be part of the script, but as someone not living in North America, I have no real concept of what a temperature difference of 20F means.
I enjoyed this series, and I watched it for your approach to these types of reviews and was why I subscribed to you after seeing your Hexclad video. However I have a gripe with any app based appliance, which is support. And I don't mean the 1 year warranty or whatever they happen to come with, I mean app and server support. I don't want to own a product that can be so quickly and easily disabled because of a myriad of reasons. From the company deciding to sunset that model you own and stop updating or completely removing from their servers, to the company going out of business or being bought out and eliminated. There's too many ?????s with IOT devices. What I'm saying is, if I were inclined to buy any of these, It'd be the Ninja hands down. But given I have a good convection oven that can go fanless, and good probe thermometers, and the room to support that, I think I'll stick it out without a smart oven.
I bought the Ninja 10 in 1 last week ($229.00) & so far so good. It took a couple of tries to get the toast to the way I like it, baked some peanut butter cookies that came out wonderfully. I'm going to do a meat loaf & baked potatoes tomorrow. The real test will be a whole baked chicken. If it bakes up with crispy skin & still moist inside, then it will have been worth it. My only worry is the reports by many who say it is a pain in the tush to keep clean.
Wow, what a thoughtful, unbiased, and well presented review. I have not seen your channel before but this checked every box for me. Great comparison. Liked & subscribed!
I never knew anything about a June oven, I was seriously just looking at the Breville smart pro & Joule. I never even considered the June. You made look more into it, It was an amazing product with soo much potential even where it was at. I was so upset when I seen its discontinued!! So sad!! Very sad & disappointing reviews about customer service because of this. Since this has all happened are your views any different from what you chose if you could re-do the review you made?
Chris, when it comes to trusted, tested, and knowledgeable opinions on electronics in the kitchen, you are THE MAN! I mean, having six Joule's, I know you know what the hell you're talking about! The one thing I have to disagree with you on is the Breville customer service. Without going into too much detail, I was VERY disappointed (and angry) that an expensive Breville juicer lasted only 3 weeks past it's one-year warranty. The experience with their customer service was not exactly stellar. Long story short, after sending back to them the now defunct juicer, they sent to me a new juicer....problem solved. Except it conked out a couple of months later. So I'm not keen at all about Breville and gun-shy about making a major purchase from them ever again. I appreciate the reviews on the ovens! You're the best!
I am also disappointed with Breville's customer service. Not only did I have issue with ordering one of their PolyScience items (never sent the shipping email) but also currently attempting to get support for my Joule unit and support sent the wrong part and have been silent for over 2 weeks and no one answering their phones. So I agree with you on future purchases. I will not look at Breville for future appliances based on my interactions with them no matter how good they review.
I had a Breville smart oven and something that needs to be communicated is that their electronics are temperamental and fail often! We loved our oven until we started getting error messages, when I reviewed my manual it stated to shut off unplug and contact service immediately. After researching this I found that it is very common issue with them as many others had the same and yes it failed like 4 months after the warranty...funny how this seems to work out?
I wish you would do a review of the Wolf Gourmet Countertop Oven the way you put these three through their paces, especially since the June Oven is no longer being made. The Wolf seems to have the big side fan like the Breville Joule but with less obstruction of the airflow and the thermometer like the June and the Ninja. It's pretty, but could it fill in for the June? Here's what they sent me when I inquired about buying one: We do want to let you know that we will not continue manufacturing new June Ovens. This was a difficult decision to make. It is a great product, super innovative, and many of us are passionate owners like you. However, as we reviewed the economics of the Oven and the competitive market for tabletop ovens, we determined that strategically, we needed to make this choice and ensure that we focused our investment in this technology on our core business, outdoor cooking.
Interesting reviews. I find it interesting that both Consumer Reports and America's Test Kitchen love the Breville and it always comes out on top in both of their reviews. Of course, they're rating an overall usage--including toasting bread and roasting meat in addition to the air-frying function. As you said, all households are a bit different, and for me, if I make this investment, I'd want to ditch my regular toaster as well as obviate the need for an air fryer, and I don't really need my countertop oven to be leagues smarter than my range oven, so maybe the Breville is best for me. Thanks for all of your insights.
You are supposed to leave between 8" 20cm to 12" 30cm air gap clearance above the ovens for heat safety. So the taller ovens like the Ninja cannot be used under a standard height wall cupboard. Therefore the lower wider ovens are the only option for a kitchen when the oven is to be placed under a wall cupboard.
This is from the Ninja manual: “When using this oven, provide adequate space (at least 1” above and on all sides) for air circulation.” Considering its height is 13.34 inches and standard cabinet height starts at 18-20 inches above the counter, this is perfectly safe to place on the counter underneath cabinets. It’s all good 👍🏻
According to June's website, only the highest tier has the function they label as "air fry" and it's $1300. I know that the convection oven is functionally air frying much of the time, but wanted to point that out
I purchased the $900 version which has air-frying on the menus. AS far as I can tell, there is no difference in the ovens or software at the different price points, just the number of various accessories that are included.
I just purchased a ninja top and bottom oven and I am absolutely loving it the only thing I did cook a pizza the other night and I decided that I would next time at the pepperoni halfway in because it seems to crisp the pepperoni more than I like. I must admit I am absolutely loving it and I'm not ashamed that I bought it I got it at a good price and I did my homework
I'd be more interested in one of these if it also contained a microwave, I think. I'm not sure that the smart functionality is enough of a gain for me that I'd sacrifice the extra microwave function in my current Samsung combination oven.
I decided to reject the convection/microwave combo ovens since I often need both at the same time. The deal breaker was having to let the oven cool thirty minutes before using the microwave. That, plus the turntable is limiting.
I think a important factor you didn't consider is - ease of cleaning. I've had the Ninja for about 2 years and it is just impossible to clean and keep clean. It's such an important consideration and ninja fails so badly here that I am replacing the Ninja. If you can't get an oven clean, there's no point in having it. I'll go out on a limb and bet your wife agrees with me.
June has been sold out for months. Pretty much since Weber announced the acquisition. They're either navigating the company integration and working on a next generation product or shutting down the line entirely. Weber has its own connected/smart module on their Smart Grills, so it's possible they acquired June just to incorporate the IP, patents (if any) and expertise into their more profitable line, which may be grills.
in the months between these videos and the previous sous vide video which i commented on. i have found that "cheap" brands had made their own "airfryer" convection ovens but without digital controls. and some of them go up to 270degC/518F, touting it as great for pizza. few years ago these "cheap" makers only made ovens that are terrible, small, 200 degC/392 F max and feeling flimsy/lightweight.. like they are toaster ovens. for the fraction of the price, i decided to get a smart pressure cooker plus a "cheap" oven. like i said before, the oven is nice to have but not so critical.
This whole thing seems to be a bit of a marketing scam. I have a 60cm built in Fisher and Paykel oven. It comes with a thermometer, can turn itself off when thermometer reaches a particular temp, and yes, you can turn the fan off. It's just an oven, nothing 'smart' about it. Though whenever I'm monitoring the ambient temp with a seperate ambient thermometer, the selected temp is always within a degree or two of the target. So maybe the 'smart' monicker is just marketing to cover the fact they're selling toys...
Hey Chef, glad to have found your channel. I remembered you from In search of perfection! The steak overcooking incident. The look Heston gave scared the life out of me, I'll always remember that. Glad to see you're doing well and have your own channel! (:
Naw, you bake in a ninja ovens with a powerful fan, just minus 25 degrees. l'm a retired executive chef, I baked Quiche, cheese cakes, pecan pies and cakes in a professional size confection ovens, and I never had any issues baking with these type of recipes, and these type of fans are moving air at a much higher velocity than the ninja.
I'm taking Mrs. Young's advice an purchasing the Ninja oven. Thanks for the writeup. I hope to one day justify purchasing one of your thermometers. They're nice, but my instincts aren't that expensive...
Glad the review was helpful. And, understand the Predictive Thermometer isn’t inexpensive. Set out to make a no compromise product and the price reflects that reality.
I have had for 20 years a large Sharp carousel convection /microwave. It’s large enough for cooking large turkeys or small game hens perfect. I can bake cakes or anything. Can nuke cup of coffee. Can blend the 2 settings to work together. Cost 500 to 700.. Also bought 7 years ago a cheaper Cuisinart micro /convection oven for 250. Little smaller but keeps up with this Sharp. Would recommend both.
Well, I was hoping to know what to buy after this because I’ve had the Joule in my cart over and over the last month. The June sounds awesome but I want a good air fryer, which it clearly isn’t. Wish it checked all the boxes. I suppose I’ll go Ninja, but consumer reviews, even in these comments are a bit rough. Great and informative review! Sounds like what I really want doesn’t exist yet. Someone tell me when June adds a bigger fan and gets air frying up to par, and sounds like they’d have a winner
All of these videos has made me wonder if you're working on more than predictive algorithms for food cooking times and if you're also working on thermodynamics variables for oven target temperature. But also, since electric ovens have been around for a while, it makes me wonder what the benefit of actually maintaining 1 degree of accuracy within the entire chamber of the oven. For most food. Or do I not know what I'm missing out on 😃
One degree of accuracy isn’t worth trying to achieve IMO, but +/- 5 degrees or so is, I think, a reasonable standard to expect from a well-tuned PID control algorithm.
@@ChrisYoungCooks And that +/- 5 degrees applies inside an oven is what you're saying, right? I'm guessing you know quite well how much major an energy difference there is when there is a 5 degree temperature difference. I still can't believe you're on here. I've been watching you and paying attention to you since In Search of Perfection.
Excellent presentation. I very nearly sprang for the Breville today but decided to do a bit more research. In my experience, Breville is all marketing. My actual user experiences (food processor, hot water kettle, espresso maker) have been disappointing. It seems this $$$ oven is no different as I've seen the sub-par toast and bagel results. I know you didn't cover that in this episode, but you reminded me to be more analytical and less mesmerized by the shiny box with the showy display. I'd probably pick the June but $900 is too much for me and this is not a must-have purchase.
I miss toaster ovens. Does anybody else remember toaster ovens? They were small enough that they didn't need to preheat. So you could toast bread without waiting nine minutes.
Didn’t buy a knew oven for nearly two years since my old one broke. Finally pulled the trigger on the ninja 10 in 1 since it’s only 180€ (195$ tax and shipping included) for Black Friday.
These types of reviews are great. What I would like to see is a review of Brava and Tuvala Oven with a meal subscription. I'm thinking of getting the Tuvala for my aging parents who might benefit from a subscription service that makes cooking good food easier as they age. As for myself, I'm considering the Brava, but the "American Test Kitchen" review calls it fussy, so I need a trustworthy second source that isn't a paid influencer. Any chance this channel might do a review of either?
Hi Chris! Following your channel and looking forward to buying the Combustion soon from Australia! Can you please review the Dreo Chefmaker Air-Fryer that is somewhat relevant to this category?
Chris, I see a 4th oven behind you. It looks larger and that is important to me. I'm unable to tell the brand and model. Please comment. My Combustion Inc products arrived today and will be in use tomorrow.
This was an excellent review. Thank you! You should compare the June oven with The Brava Glass oven. This should be interesting, as I feel that these are closer in features and function 🤔 I would love to hear your chef/scientific analysis. If considered, thank you in advance!
Hi there my name is Marvin and wanted to ask if you would do a review of other ovens not just Smart. I'm a bit of a kitchen geek as well and pride myself on finding the best of things and waiting for a great sale on it. My countertop oven is a Delonghi True European Convection oven and I have to say it does everything well except broil as it has a dark nonstick interior. It has Smart programs for things like frozen pizza with no preheat and cookies, also has an app with more recipes as well. But I rarely hear about it from reviewers except once on America's Test Kitchen. One more thing is it also has a double-paned glass door that stays cool to the touch 😎 it is another option no one seems to have on their radar, which is strange as it also has an element around the Convection fan. In any case I love your detailed scientific methods and explanations. Thank you for what you do.
I looked at the reviews for all 3 ovens on Amazon. Overall, they rate high but there is still a concerning number of 1 - 3 star reviews that makes me question the quality control.
@markdossett5993 I have an Anova steam oven for 3 years, which has so-so air fryer capability, so hard to justify any of these, not much counter space left
How about the Cuisinart "Air Fryer Toaster Ovens". There are various iterations are around, with different control panels. Its sold at Costco and popular. My issue has been the large diameter ceiling mounted fan has to run at low speed even when not in convection mode, like the Ninja as you pointed out. Aside from the baking issues mentioned, this dries out toast. I think this is likely to keep the top mounted control panel cool so it doesn't fail. It's nice that the Ninja isn't too wide, but width-reducing top mounted control panels need a separate fan to cool the electronics, to avoid the oven interior fan running at all times. That adds cost and complexity, which Ninja and Cuisinart have avoided. I've also got a Panasonic NB-G110P, that is popular in Japan. It excels at toasting, getting the exterior crispy without drying out the inside, using an infrared bulb that reaches full output almost instantly. The overhead clearance is extremely low though, a croissant puts it at its limit. It does produce consistent results that avoid burning the top though, since the digital control's algorithm modulates the bulb and elements fairly precisely. An amazing toaster disguised as an oven, and worth a look if that is your focus.
Honestly, I see internet connectivity as a negative with most appliances. As a technologically literate programmer I'm aware of all the extra points of failure of "smart" products and I usually make a conscious effort to avoid them if I can. There's too many horror-stories of devices bricked by updates and devices that lose functionality or stop working entirely because the company stops maintaining their software. In fact: those scenarios seem more likely than updates actually improving functionality, because most companies lock such updates behind newer models, expecting you to buy a new model to get access.
Pro tip on the Ninja: if you want to run it without the convection fan just set the mode to reheat. Only the top and bottom elements will heat up.
Thanks for saving me $500 lol. Had a Bravetti Rotisserie oven for 10 years, an absolute beast. But the old guy is tired and wearing down. I loved the large capacity and versatility with element control (top and bottom), plus convection. Never going back to full size oven at home. Ninja XL Pro looks like a winner.
In that matter are you able to set the temperature as hight as you want ? without any restriction of the reheat mode ? (i'm planning to get the ninja also)
This is a game changer for me! Reheat is actually a regular bake mode (no fan) .Bake should be renamed aero bake !
I haven’t been this emotionally invested in my specific device being perceived as best-in-class since my childhood console wars.
the best in class would be the anova combi oven
I felt this.
lol
but can your Smart Oven run Crysis?
Right. I’m here for this
I really like that you didn't just pick a 'best' oven, but fully explained what each one brought to the table. As advanced as the June oven is, the ninja actually fits my needs (and, more importantly, my little apartment kitchen) best. I have an immersion circulator for precision work, and my main oven for baking (which generally requires at least one half-sheet pan anyway); the ninja would let me get rid of the air fryer, while also being able to use two racks even in a smaller job. My needs will probably change in the future, but for now, it's what makes the most sense for me.
im getting a ninja for my campervan fo shore. It looks amazeballs!
Agree, ummm, I think most of us like, ummm, ALREADY HAVE AN OVEN! So we're all set for baking and roasting. It's the other stuff we need to do, like air frying without those awful plastic containers, and I sure could use a dehydrator, and a whole bunch of other functions. Does it prove bread? And it's only 199 at Walmart.
@@cchoi108i actually want one for roasting!
I've owned the Ninja XL for just over a year. I can not recommend it. All reviews I see for this oven are not from daily use long term. I loved the size of the oven. It worked well when it worked although it does not heat as evenly as advertised. The problem is just after a year it no longer functions which is crazy for the $300 price tag. 1 year of use caused a malfunctioning fan that started as a strange noise and became just not working. Past the warranty there are no parts to buy to fix it and no repair option from Ninja. Very disappointing. Now I'm researching for a replacement air fry oven as its something I use all the time, this didn't last as long as my much cheaper Cuisinart.
Do not buy the June oven. It breaks every 2 years. We’ve gone through 3 replacement and now they are asking us to pay $450 w/ a 60 day warranty. Stay away from June.
This channel is one of the best in food science and cooking tech. I wish he made more vids.
🙏Working on it.
I'm surprised the anova combi oven wasn't included. With 100% humidity, wouldn't the temp around food surface actually be the oven temp?
I asked about this in the previous episode - it's considered different enough to be reviewed separately
So, it turns out that *eventually* the surface temp and oven temp become the same with 100% humidity, but it takes quite a while. Even inside a sous vide bag the surface temp is lower than the bath temp for a long time-this is why you can actually speed sous vide by raising the bath temp a couple degrees and not overcook things. Getting into the science of all this, plus looking at all the features of the Anova is just a big job. Adding it to this review would have been like including a Ferrari in a series on reasonable mid-sized cars.
I own both the Breville Joule and the Anova Precision Oven. The Joule purchase was a mistake - the Anova beats it in every way for all kinds of cooking. The Anova does have a bigger footprint, and whoever decided to put touch controls on the handle should be fired. But this was a great series of videos and it achieved its intended goal: I ended up purchasing the Combustion thermometer!
@@BillAckerman I predict you will be very happy. I have the APO and the Combustion Predictive Thermometer - a match made in heaven.
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Hm- i came to this review because of the Anova Precision oven. It was always on the top spot of my shopping list- but I just watched a video of American test kitchen where it totally lost. @chrisyoung over to you… please test!
Fantastic job with this series, it's raised my level of thought about my own appliances a little bit, like how they work and what I want/need them to do. I really enjoy how you present the science and real-world cooking pros and cons of these devices and communicate your vision of what truly 'smart' kitchen tech is/ought to be.
What about ninja double oven
i was most shocked they couldnt reach the stated 500 degrees temperature with 2 falling far short. clearly it has to do with insulation and heat loss since you said the outside of the ovens were hot to the touch. Missing a temperature claim in an empty oven is straight up deception.
Interesting videos, thank you. I kind of want a June Oven, but the company appears not to be selling them anymore and hasn't for months as far as I can tell, that's out. In the end, I kind of just want a good oven that can reach and hold high temps and that has a decent fan (that I can turn off). That doesn't seem to be available.
I have a June and love it. But when Weber bought out June they discontinued them.
It's really interesting to me how well engineered both of the Ninja products you've reviewed are given that it's more of a budget brand. Definitely some great staff they've got.
I admit to being surprised. There is definitely sone good engineering going on there.
They also seem to be the only consumer Pacojet competitor.
I would be interested on reviews of built in ovens from leading manufacturers always comparing the top model gaggenau/wolf/miele/samsung/aeg/bosch/siemens and others
Do you have thoughts on the Anova Precision Oven? I’m curious how moisture and the thermometer impact your perception (but recognize the conflict of interest with the probe function, too). How do steam/combi functions review out in your opinion?
Honestly I’ve owned the non-joule version of the Breville Smart oven air pro and have found it to be great for absolutely everything including air frying and reasonably large roasts BUT given the quality and savviness of their design in appliances overall, I’m shocked they still haven’t included a port for a thermocouple. It would seem like the most obviously breville thing to do!
Thiiiissss
I agree, pretty glaring miss. I have one of these ovens and I have to use my own probe and set alarms up independent of the oven's process. They need to collab with @ChrisYoungCooks and wirelessly integrate with his thermometer 🙂
I agree that it’s a miss, but what’s wrong with using your own probe thermometer?
@@shiyanwijesekera4867 at which point you’re temp profiling your cooking, you think you’d want to be able to actually know what temp the food is. they’re putting one in tho. it’s coming.
@@shiyanwijesekera4867I think, for example, the rotisserie feature could be a whole lot smarter. It's not the end of the world, but I'm probably not going to use features I paid for because of it.
Dude, $900 for a damn air fryer, are you shitting me? You can get an induction stove top with a convection oven for around $1000 these days. I get it if you can't have a full size stove, but holy shit if you can? Spending $900 on an air fryer is just bonkers at that point.
My biggest problem is that you didn't cover cleaning. I owned the Ninja Foodi and own a Breville pro. Both are good at first, whenever it comes to clea, ing they are a nightmare. The Ninja I had to cook at temperature set at 400° F but rarely achieved that temperature. Breville about the same but took longer to cook. I had the Ninja less than a year before it barely could reach 350°F so through it away. Breville is about the same plus also hard to clean, but I can use my baking dishes, unlike Ninja, which is not wide enough and too high. But to me, it boils down to cleaning, which takes a lot of time, which defeats saving on cooking time. Needs a self-cleaning feature that works for the cost of these machines. As for the June oven, I don't own it, so I can't say anything about it, but if it doesn't have a self-cleaning feature, I won't buy one. When you guys do a review, involve cleaning in your review after 6 months of use. From my experience with these two I have owned, they must pay you for the review you give on these products. I give Ninja a D, and so far, Breville is a B, but that may go down since I have owned it 3 months.
I often wonder why there isn't an oven that just lets us manually control the elements and fan speed. It's annoying that you have to learn what each "feature" actually does and then try to remember that. Same applies to everything like instant pots, too. Keep all the buttons for the normal user for sure, but throw us a bone.
New watcher here 👋🏾. I can honestly say this is the best review video of any product I have ever seen.
I got a good laugh out of “despite its fairly awful name..” when talking about the ninja 😂
I have a Breville toaster oven that's at least 6+ years old and it's pretty great. I have a bunch of their appliances and love the brand. I think for the price, if the Ninja could have reached 480f temps it would be a no brainer and I'd buy one tomorrow. The June just seems a bit over priced to have a limiting feature like the poor convection fans, fix that and I'd actually consider it.
Sorry, but you have gotten old man. Smart means it connect to your phone, not that it has sensors. Your confusing high tech with smart.
I have the Ninja and the temps are way off. I wouldn't buy another and this one is about to go bye bye.
Great job man!! This is hands down the best appliance review channel!
Thank you for your work, I have already owned the Breville Smart Oven Air Fryer Pro since 2021. I use it every single day and it does a wonderful job.
i expected a more blatant 'punchline' around the best 'smart oven' being any basic model, paired with your thermometer. seems like you're crediting the audience for being smart enough to connect the dots :)
Seriously. I felt respected watching this. I can only imagine what being able to integrate some of these ovens' functionality with the combustion thermometer would produce, and I think the fact that the thought's occurred to me at all is the best marketing anyone could do! Great video series regardless, it's got me thinking about my own appliances and how they work, and what I actually need at home.
Yeah, exactly, I think that's the point: what makes a smart oven? Knowing when to take your food out! Hence: predictive thermometer and "any oven you already own". 🤣
Yeah, and my crystal ball says this call is about to happen or has happened:
Breville Product Manager: Hi Chris, lovely series, great job comparing them. But we need to talk about integrating your thermometer with our ecosystem. Was thinking that since they both connect to smartphone apps and the cloud, we could rev the software (cloud + apps) to provide optional integration between the two for owners who have both. That way our autopilot can dynamically adapt based on the actual temperatures from your probe. If you cut us a good deal, we might even offer it as a special bundled set. ...
lol. I’m waiting for this!!!! I immediately had the same thought. It would definitely elevate the joule oven.
A great presentation. June is quite impressive. I am inclined towards getting the Anova Precision for its sous vide and steam feature. Good to know that you plan to make a video
on it. BTW, I am happy customer of the Predictive Meat Themometer. I am surprised, I have not seen BBQ channels toying with it yet.
Was about to buy the Breville but not I have second thoughts :(. One thing I haven't seen is how these ovens control smoke and how is cleaning.
Would love an update now that June is no longer making ovens and many, including myself, have a Gen2 oven that can't receive updates after factory reset and the oven no longer works.
Fantastic series; I personally would keep the Ninja too.
Considering that the June uses cameras, I wonder if temperature control behaves differently with food in the oven.
The industry needs more independent testing, keep up the good work!
Hey Chris - just to let you know for some reason this video's maximum resolution is 720p, whereas the other videos in the series were 1080p. Possible mis-export?
Oh, that’s embarrassing. Yes, looks like I exported it wrong and didn’t catch it. Sorry 😞
I feel that there is a seriously missing elephant in the room… the Anova precision oven.
Very interesting series Chris. I see the wall outlet as the biggest drawback by limiting power. I'm more interested in Steam Ovens and look forward to you testing them.
another super good review.........why no Anova precision oven review ? Conflict of interest b/c your immersion circulator , or b/c its more a smart steam /combi oven. I'd go for the Ninja and figure out the stop fan hack, based on your 4 reviews, not merely due to price point, but the semi integrated if not highly accurate temp probe, the very good convection heat/fan footprint and height pros......and to be less wed to my freaking phone. I have the Anova and its neato but too app centric/ for me. Needs some "analog" controls.
Internet connectivity has also the chance to brick an appliance when the vendor decides it wants to move on. Being a software engineer I am not buying a smart appliance. If my smart thermometer bricks that is one thing but if my oven ($900) bricks it is a different story. I bought the Meat-It thermometer and it is a piece of junk - hard to pair, uses batteries to charge and does not show the correct temperature.
Your detailed use of each oven was great. I love Breville products, but I own and use the Ninja oven. It is used more than my stove oven weekly and comes in very handy for extra dishes on holidays.
Personally the Ninja is the winner. Internet connectivity is a deterrent for me, and I don't think you should buy something based on future promises.
Love this channel but quite often flick past before the video finishes because there’s no Celsius info
Even some text overlaid on the screen in post would make this channel 👌🏽
Moral of the story: at home, wife’s always correct 😂
Great series, Chris! Four more reasons why you do the best and most informative reviews of cooking tools. I learn so much with each review. But per Lee's post below, do you know what's up with June having no ovens for sale, with no mention on their website about a reason or when a restock might happen. Being the most technically advanced of the ovens, I suppose supply chain issues with getting needed parts could be why.
Suggestion for a new video. I have an Anova Precision oven, I'd really appreciate a review, or suggestions on when to use steam and at what settings, maybe a good chance to talk about the science of steam ovens.
Miele, Electrolux, V-Zug, Wolf/Subzero have build-in ovens/steamers that also regulate steam and grill and should surpass this, some had thermometers integrated since the early 2000s . Not a compeition for the 300$ oven but with the 900$ price tag these ovens should offer better values for money.
ok, now add the Anova Smart Oven and the Brava Smart oven as well…these are great, thank you :-)
This channel is sublime. It is beyond delightful to be able to learn from one the best (if not the best) in the technical aspects of cooking. You always back up the things you say with facts and easy to follow animated or real demonstrations. Combine that with well-produced videos and a soothing voice and you can easily binge watch this channel and feel quite a bit smarter after. 🥰
I was unable to find a June oven to buy, so emailed the company. Here's what I got: "We do want to let you know that we will not continue manufacturing new JuneOvens." Bummer.
This chanel is highly underrated! i absoluely enjoy the in debth tech talk .. thank you very much!
Great series and video. Would like to offer one bit of constructive criticism though, when discussing temps, it would be great to have the celcius on the screen too. Doesn't need to be part of the script, but as someone not living in North America, I have no real concept of what a temperature difference of 20F means.
I enjoyed this series, and I watched it for your approach to these types of reviews and was why I subscribed to you after seeing your Hexclad video.
However I have a gripe with any app based appliance, which is support. And I don't mean the 1 year warranty or whatever they happen to come with, I mean app and server support. I don't want to own a product that can be so quickly and easily disabled because of a myriad of reasons. From the company deciding to sunset that model you own and stop updating or completely removing from their servers, to the company going out of business or being bought out and eliminated. There's too many ?????s with IOT devices.
What I'm saying is, if I were inclined to buy any of these, It'd be the Ninja hands down. But given I have a good convection oven that can go fanless, and good probe thermometers, and the room to support that, I think I'll stick it out without a smart oven.
Thank you for this video. It was very helpful. Would you recommend getting a ceramic coated air fryer instead of stainless steel?
The Breville looks like a Sage 820 oven.
Sage is Breville's UK brand name. And I believe the Joule oven is essentially an upgraded BV909.
Nice review!! And how about the ANOVA Precision Oven?
Hahah. Your video thumbnail is amazing
I bought the Ninja 10 in 1 last week ($229.00) & so far so good. It took a couple of tries to get the toast to the way I like it, baked some peanut butter cookies that came out wonderfully. I'm going to do a meat loaf & baked potatoes tomorrow. The real test will be a whole baked chicken. If it bakes up with crispy skin & still moist inside, then it will have been worth it. My only worry is the reports by many who say it is a pain in the tush to keep clean.
Wow, what a thoughtful, unbiased, and well presented review. I have not seen your channel before but this checked every box for me. Great comparison. Liked & subscribed!
I enjoyed this in-depth series and expertise, thank you
can u review the anova precision steam oven in a future video? ive heard mixed opinions on it
I’m told I also have shallow depth.
I never knew anything about a June oven, I was seriously just looking at the Breville smart pro & Joule.
I never even considered the June.
You made look more into it, It was an amazing product with soo much potential even where it was at. I was so upset when I seen its discontinued!!
So sad!! Very sad & disappointing reviews about customer service because of this.
Since this has all happened are your views any different from what you chose if you could re-do the review you made?
Chris, when it comes to trusted, tested, and knowledgeable opinions on electronics in the kitchen, you are THE MAN! I mean, having six Joule's, I know you know what the hell you're talking about! The one thing I have to disagree with you on is the Breville customer service. Without going into too much detail, I was VERY disappointed (and angry) that an expensive Breville juicer lasted only 3 weeks past it's one-year warranty. The experience with their customer service was not exactly stellar. Long story short, after sending back to them the now defunct juicer, they sent to me a new juicer....problem solved. Except it conked out a couple of months later. So I'm not keen at all about Breville and gun-shy about making a major purchase from them ever again.
I appreciate the reviews on the ovens! You're the best!
I am also disappointed with Breville's customer service. Not only did I have issue with ordering one of their PolyScience items (never sent the shipping email) but also currently attempting to get support for my Joule unit and support sent the wrong part and have been silent for over 2 weeks and no one answering their phones.
So I agree with you on future purchases. I will not look at Breville for future appliances based on my interactions with them no matter how good they review.
I had a Breville smart oven and something that needs to be communicated is that their electronics are temperamental and fail often! We loved our oven until we started getting error messages, when I reviewed my manual it stated to shut off unplug and contact service immediately. After researching this I found that it is very common issue with them as many others had the same and yes it failed like 4 months after the warranty...funny how this seems to work out?
I wish you would do a review of the Wolf Gourmet Countertop Oven the way you put these three through their paces, especially since the June Oven is no longer being made. The Wolf seems to have the big side fan like the Breville Joule but with less obstruction of the airflow and the thermometer like the June and the Ninja. It's pretty, but could it fill in for the June? Here's what they sent me when I inquired about buying one:
We do want to let you know that we will not continue manufacturing new June Ovens. This was a difficult decision to make. It is a great product, super innovative, and many of us are passionate owners like you. However, as we reviewed the economics of the Oven and the competitive market for tabletop ovens, we determined that strategically, we needed to make this choice and ensure that we focused our investment in this technology on our core business, outdoor cooking.
Interesting reviews. I find it interesting that both Consumer Reports and America's Test Kitchen love the Breville and it always comes out on top in both of their reviews. Of course, they're rating an overall usage--including toasting bread and roasting meat in addition to the air-frying function. As you said, all households are a bit different, and for me, if I make this investment, I'd want to ditch my regular toaster as well as obviate the need for an air fryer, and I don't really need my countertop oven to be leagues smarter than my range oven, so maybe the Breville is best for me. Thanks for all of your insights.
Would be interesting to see how the Anova precision oven would stack up against these ☺️
Could you please add metric units in the future?
You are supposed to leave between 8" 20cm to 12" 30cm air gap clearance above the ovens for heat safety. So the taller ovens like the Ninja cannot be used under a standard height wall cupboard. Therefore the lower wider ovens are the only option for a kitchen when the oven is to be placed under a wall cupboard.
This is from the Ninja manual: “When using this oven, provide adequate space (at least 1” above and on all sides) for air circulation.”
Considering its height is 13.34 inches and standard cabinet height starts at 18-20 inches above the counter, this is perfectly safe to place on the counter underneath cabinets. It’s all good 👍🏻
According to June's website, only the highest tier has the function they label as "air fry" and it's $1300. I know that the convection oven is functionally air frying much of the time, but wanted to point that out
I purchased the $900 version which has air-frying on the menus. AS far as I can tell, there is no difference in the ovens or software at the different price points, just the number of various accessories that are included.
I just purchased a ninja top and bottom oven and I am absolutely loving it the only thing I did cook a pizza the other night and I decided that I would next time at the pepperoni halfway in because it seems to crisp the pepperoni more than I like. I must admit I am absolutely loving it and I'm not ashamed that I bought it I got it at a good price and I did my homework
I'd be more interested in one of these if it also contained a microwave, I think. I'm not sure that the smart functionality is enough of a gain for me that I'd sacrifice the extra microwave function in my current Samsung combination oven.
I decided to reject the convection/microwave combo ovens since I often need both at the same time. The deal breaker was having to let the oven cool thirty minutes before using the microwave. That, plus the turntable is limiting.
How about Anova?
Simply amazing.... that's all i can say about this detailed breakdown
I think a important factor you didn't consider is - ease of cleaning. I've had the Ninja for about 2 years and it is just impossible to clean and keep clean. It's such an important consideration and ninja fails so badly here that I am replacing the Ninja. If you can't get an oven clean, there's no point in having it. I'll go out on a limb and bet your wife agrees with me.
June has been sold out for months. Pretty much since Weber announced the acquisition. They're either navigating the company integration and working on a next generation product or shutting down the line entirely. Weber has its own connected/smart module on their Smart Grills, so it's possible they acquired June just to incorporate the IP, patents (if any) and expertise into their more profitable line, which may be grills.
I have a June. Weber has shut it down.
Great video! I hope you can also do an in depth review of the Anova
Can the Ninja make toast? Can the Ninja stack on top of a microwave or would the heat damage the microwave?
Excellent content, and insight in to what makes a smart oven and how smart they are and possibly could be.
Cosori makes a copycat of the Breville oven without an app for half the price. I would recommend mine
in the months between these videos and the previous sous vide video which i commented on.
i have found that "cheap" brands had made their own "airfryer" convection ovens but without digital controls. and some of them go up to 270degC/518F, touting it as great for pizza. few years ago these "cheap" makers only made ovens that are terrible, small, 200 degC/392 F max and feeling flimsy/lightweight.. like they are toaster ovens.
for the fraction of the price, i decided to get a smart pressure cooker plus a "cheap" oven. like i said before, the oven is nice to have but not so critical.
I zeroed in on this video cuz I just bought the Ninja.... hasn't even arrived yet
Exelente ! Muchas gracias from California.
This whole thing seems to be a bit of a marketing scam. I have a 60cm built in Fisher and Paykel oven. It comes with a thermometer, can turn itself off when thermometer reaches a particular temp, and yes, you can turn the fan off. It's just an oven, nothing 'smart' about it. Though whenever I'm monitoring the ambient temp with a seperate ambient thermometer, the selected temp is always within a degree or two of the target. So maybe the 'smart' monicker is just marketing to cover the fact they're selling toys...
Please review the Anova Precision Oven!
Hey Chef, glad to have found your channel. I remembered you from In search of perfection! The steak overcooking incident. The look Heston gave scared the life out of me, I'll always remember that. Glad to see you're doing well and have your own channel! (:
Thankfully that look was staged for the camera. I only got it for real once, when I first started working for him. And once was enough!
These reviews are best in class. Puts wirecutter to shame
Naw, you bake in a ninja ovens with a powerful fan, just minus 25 degrees. l'm a retired executive chef, I baked Quiche, cheese cakes, pecan pies and cakes in a professional size confection ovens, and I never had any issues baking with these type of recipes, and these type of fans are moving air at a much higher velocity than the ninja.
Try a soufflé chef. Just like in a Rationale they tend to blow over lopsided.
I'm taking Mrs. Young's advice an purchasing the Ninja oven. Thanks for the writeup. I hope to one day justify purchasing one of your thermometers. They're nice, but my instincts aren't that expensive...
Glad the review was helpful. And, understand the Predictive Thermometer isn’t inexpensive. Set out to make a no compromise product and the price reflects that reality.
I have had for 20 years a large Sharp carousel convection /microwave. It’s large enough for cooking large turkeys or small game hens perfect. I can bake cakes or anything. Can nuke cup of coffee. Can blend the 2 settings to work together. Cost 500 to 700.. Also bought 7 years ago a cheaper Cuisinart micro /convection oven for 250. Little smaller but keeps up with this Sharp. Would recommend both.
Well, I was hoping to know what to buy after this because I’ve had the Joule in my cart over and over the last month. The June sounds awesome but I want a good air fryer, which it clearly isn’t. Wish it checked all the boxes. I suppose I’ll go Ninja, but consumer reviews, even in these comments are a bit rough.
Great and informative review! Sounds like what I really want doesn’t exist yet.
Someone tell me when June adds a bigger fan and gets air frying up to par, and sounds like they’d have a winner
All of these videos has made me wonder if you're working on more than predictive algorithms for food cooking times and if you're also working on thermodynamics variables for oven target temperature. But also, since electric ovens have been around for a while, it makes me wonder what the benefit of actually maintaining 1 degree of accuracy within the entire chamber of the oven. For most food. Or do I not know what I'm missing out on 😃
One degree of accuracy isn’t worth trying to achieve IMO, but +/- 5 degrees or so is, I think, a reasonable standard to expect from a well-tuned PID control algorithm.
@@ChrisYoungCooks And that +/- 5 degrees applies inside an oven is what you're saying, right? I'm guessing you know quite well how much major an energy difference there is when there is a 5 degree temperature difference. I still can't believe you're on here. I've been watching you and paying attention to you since In Search of Perfection.
Excellent presentation. I very nearly sprang for the Breville today but decided to do a bit more research. In my experience, Breville is all marketing. My actual user experiences (food processor, hot water kettle, espresso maker) have been disappointing. It seems this $$$ oven is no different as I've seen the sub-par toast and bagel results. I know you didn't cover that in this episode, but you reminded me to be more analytical and less mesmerized by the shiny box with the showy display. I'd probably pick the June but $900 is too much for me and this is not a must-have purchase.
I miss toaster ovens. Does anybody else remember toaster ovens? They were small enough that they didn't need to preheat. So you could toast bread without waiting nine minutes.
Didn’t buy a knew oven for nearly two years since my old one broke. Finally pulled the trigger on the ninja 10 in 1 since it’s only 180€ (195$ tax and shipping included) for Black Friday.
These types of reviews are great. What I would like to see is a review of Brava and Tuvala Oven with a meal subscription. I'm thinking of getting the Tuvala for my aging parents who might benefit from a subscription service that makes cooking good food easier as they age. As for myself, I'm considering the Brava, but the "American Test Kitchen" review calls it fussy, so I need a trustworthy second source that isn't a paid influencer.
Any chance this channel might do a review of either?
Hi Chris! Following your channel and looking forward to buying the Combustion soon from Australia! Can you please review the Dreo Chefmaker Air-Fryer that is somewhat relevant to this category?
Chris, I see a 4th oven behind you. It looks larger and that is important to me. I'm unable to tell the brand and model. Please comment. My Combustion Inc products arrived today and will be in use tomorrow.
Those are built in Miele ovens that are installed in my studio
This was an excellent review. Thank you! You should compare the June oven with The Brava Glass oven. This should be interesting, as I feel that these are closer in features and function 🤔 I would love to hear your chef/scientific analysis. If considered, thank you in advance!
Hi there my name is Marvin and wanted to ask if you would do a review of other ovens not just Smart. I'm a bit of a kitchen geek as well and pride myself on finding the best of things and waiting for a great sale on it. My countertop oven is a Delonghi True European Convection oven and I have to say it does everything well except broil as it has a dark nonstick interior. It has Smart programs for things like frozen pizza with no preheat and cookies, also has an app with more recipes as well. But I rarely hear about it from reviewers except once on America's Test Kitchen. One more thing is it also has a double-paned glass door that stays cool to the touch 😎 it is another option no one seems to have on their radar, which is strange as it also has an element around the Convection fan. In any case I love your detailed scientific methods and explanations. Thank you for what you do.
Such a clean series of reviews
plus I love that thumbnail hahaha
I looked at the reviews for all 3 ovens on Amazon. Overall, they rate high but there is still a concerning number of 1 - 3 star reviews that makes me question the quality control.
Note: the June Oven has now been discontinued
I believe I heard it was being replaced by the July Oven🤔 so maybe it will get even hotter.🥵
...but that's coming from a guy who owns a Frigidaire oven and a Hotpoint refrigerator so what do I know?😀
I think I would go with the Ninja
@markdossett5993 I have an Anova steam oven for 3 years, which has so-so air fryer capability, so hard to justify any of these, not much counter space left
How about the Cuisinart "Air Fryer Toaster Ovens". There are various iterations are around, with different control panels. Its sold at Costco and popular. My issue has been the large diameter ceiling mounted fan has to run at low speed even when not in convection mode, like the Ninja as you pointed out. Aside from the baking issues mentioned, this dries out toast. I think this is likely to keep the top mounted control panel cool so it doesn't fail. It's nice that the Ninja isn't too wide, but width-reducing top mounted control panels need a separate fan to cool the electronics, to avoid the oven interior fan running at all times. That adds cost and complexity, which Ninja and Cuisinart have avoided.
I've also got a Panasonic NB-G110P, that is popular in Japan. It excels at toasting, getting the exterior crispy without drying out the inside, using an infrared bulb that reaches full output almost instantly. The overhead clearance is extremely low though, a croissant puts it at its limit. It does produce consistent results that avoid burning the top though, since the digital control's algorithm modulates the bulb and elements fairly precisely. An amazing toaster disguised as an oven, and worth a look if that is your focus.