The cabinet just inside the door is a radio repeater, specifically a Motorola Micor. The top is a test/metering panel, followed by an amplifier, and then the repeater itself. Below that is the power supply, and what appears to be 3 battery racks. The sticker on the repeater says Fire 1 - 33.70 (Mhz). Lowband VHF for a fire department near Pittsburgh back in the day. All of the extra grounds on basically anything metal are part of the Motorola R56 specifications for RF sites.
Nice dude thanks for watching you seem to be very specific on it any chance you want all the gear? I hate throwing stuff like this away but my wife would leave me if it was within 1 mile from my house.
I'm trying to get rid of a VHF (145 mhz) micor myself already... not much interest since they are crystal based... everyone has moved onto newer gear with programmable/synthesized frequencies
this is a super cool idea for a quick pop site nicely done. im just starting my own networks have been planning for years now but finally the stars are aligning.
At some point around the late 90s and early 2000s, the LECs started using a SDSL type of signal to carry a T1 encapsulated within it, instead of using 2 pairs with lots of repeaters for the old school late 60s style of T1 as a layer 1 all the way across the line to the Z location. So that is why those circuit packs always call their upstream side DSL.
Those Adtran H2TUR cards are for 2 wire T1 connections; the R-Card is on the Customer side and the C-Card is on the Central office side. So, in this application, the C-Card is probably at a main office or upstream carrier facility, then this facility would be acting as the customer premise. I'm guessing this is taking in multiple T1 connections, then aggregating them into one or two data connections for the facility (to use or distribute) or maybe breaking them out to voice lines - hard to tell just from this picture. H2 has longer range ability as far as span goes, but lacks the redundancy of H4, hence why you will see multiple H2 spans in their application (if the customer can afford it).
The Cellpack is basically a bunch of T1 Smartjacks. The HTUR cards interface with the OSP side of incoming T1, and the RJ45 jacks on the main board would go out to your routers or CPE gear.
We co-locate Public Safety equipment in an AT&T shelter which seems like a two of those put together. It too has an insane amount of bonding, including the door. This facility was built between ~2005-2007, so I'd venture to guess this was normal. I know a lot of new builds will just pour a concrete pad and store all the equipment outside, and I believe in some instances they will mount everything on the tower if it will support the load.
The DSL (DS1) unit is a T1 system. Looks like a T1 multiplexer of some sort used for internal networking within verizon. Probably for various internal company customers within the facility (cellular backhaul, telephone, security, ethernet/corporate data)
It looks like the consensus is that HDSL being bonded was the technology being used here. As far as I'm concerned DSL, T1 we are throwing it all out and putting in fiber DWDM 160G capacity so it gets a new life!
To get all the goodies that came with it and front cover the panels. Most of the work is already done for you. Then the multiple t1 stuff. It is like fully loaded.
Kirk really went to town in there and gutted the place we are getting our meter installed this week I will show an update once it's workable (i.e AC works lol)
Judging by the age, they were probably supplying T1 service instead of DSL. You pointed to a bonding ground in an installation attached to a giant lightning rod. and called it Verizon nonsense. Do you even understand electricity?
I'm specifically pointing to the lug being outside of the panel installed with nonapproved means that is not something that will pass code in the last 20 years. I spent the first half of my life working 480v with my father who was a master electrician. I was licensed but did not enjoy the work. Thanks for watching.
@@jamesford7182 Touché sir we did the electrical work at the Bed Bath and Beyond, or the Kmarts! Which I don't think either exist today but not our fault haha. Thank goodness all our "nonsense" is underground by default the extra stuff with a giant 300ft piece of steel sticking up in the sky would almost certainly be a problem.
Anything around an RF tower must be grounded if not for electricity resonated RF frequency is the goal .anything loose ,or ungrounded makes for a bad day for the RF technician. Not so much a shock hazardous but data noise.
Long Lines was never a part of Verizon. Verizon was formed from an acquisition of GTE by Bell Atlantic. Long Lines was the department of the legacy AT&T that was responsible for the domestic and international long distance services of AT&T. The phone is a Trim Line phone, not Princess.
@@briceperdue7587 Yeah, the Trimline phone came in two versions, either wall mounting or desk/table. The Princess phone came in strictly desktop/table. I enjoy your videos.
Those are definitely DSL cards. By the mid-90s, HDSL and HDSL2 were used almost exclusively to deliver T1 circuits to subscribers on either 2 pairs (HDSL) or one pair (HDSL2).
@@briceperdue7587 will need h1b QwQ I'm not American :/ Would love to if I seriously got a opportunity tho, have no formal degrees but am interested in this stuff and would love to help along
@@briceperdue7587 Oh I was SHOCKED that worked...you saying it 8,394,062,951,502 times is that drove me to make the comment. Very happy to find your channel, your living one of my dreams of starting an ISP.
you inherit all their old crap but have to replace everything - quite a bit of time just to re outfit, time and money, but it is a long term investment
@@briceperdue7587 More of a want than a need at the moment, all my infrastructure isn't critical since my organization is so small (limiting the cost of downtime) but once we grow It might become a need.
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The cabinet just inside the door is a radio repeater, specifically a Motorola Micor. The top is a test/metering panel, followed by an amplifier, and then the repeater itself. Below that is the power supply, and what appears to be 3 battery racks. The sticker on the repeater says Fire 1 - 33.70 (Mhz). Lowband VHF for a fire department near Pittsburgh back in the day.
All of the extra grounds on basically anything metal are part of the Motorola R56 specifications for RF sites.
Nice dude thanks for watching you seem to be very specific on it any chance you want all the gear? I hate throwing stuff like this away but my wife would leave me if it was within 1 mile from my house.
I'm trying to get rid of a VHF (145 mhz) micor myself already... not much interest since they are crystal based... everyone has moved onto newer gear with programmable/synthesized frequencies
@@w8jkc Well if you think of anyone I just hate to put stuff this cool in the trash ya know.
@@briceperdue7587 Is this Pennsylvania? I would take it, but its too far to pick it up.
Ice trick is awesome. Never thought about that
You the man. You have showed me a few tricks too!
That's a good purchase there man, reusing existing housing, very cool..also the ice procedure ,I've learnt something, pretty innovative
I bet it outperforms a new shelter built today anyway!
this is a super cool idea for a quick pop site nicely done. im just starting my own networks have been planning for years now but finally the stars are aligning.
PLC splitters and DWDM filters inside the FOSC for the win!
At some point around the late 90s and early 2000s, the LECs started using a SDSL type of signal to carry a T1 encapsulated within it, instead of using 2 pairs with lots of repeaters for the old school late 60s style of T1 as a layer 1 all the way across the line to the Z location. So that is why those circuit packs always call their upstream side DSL.
HDSL. (and later HDSL2)
Aha nice I am going to call this the actually answer that makes the most sense!
Those Adtran H2TUR cards are for 2 wire T1 connections; the R-Card is on the Customer side and the C-Card is on the Central office side. So, in this application, the C-Card is probably at a main office or upstream carrier facility, then this facility would be acting as the customer premise. I'm guessing this is taking in multiple T1 connections, then aggregating them into one or two data connections for the facility (to use or distribute) or maybe breaking them out to voice lines - hard to tell just from this picture. H2 has longer range ability as far as span goes, but lacks the redundancy of H4, hence why you will see multiple H2 spans in their application (if the customer can afford it).
Thanks for this glad to get rid of all this old 1Mb\s equipment and pack with our DWDM gear 160G is like smoke signals to dial up.
The Cellpack is basically a bunch of T1 Smartjacks. The HTUR cards interface with the OSP side of incoming T1, and the RJ45 jacks on the main board would go out to your routers or CPE gear.
T1s replaced with 10G pon what a time warp
With the Span- numbering my first bet was on PRI. 23+ voice channels per pair with one channel for signaling shared by some number of spans.
We co-locate Public Safety equipment in an AT&T shelter which seems like a two of those put together. It too has an insane amount of bonding, including the door. This facility was built between ~2005-2007, so I'd venture to guess this was normal. I know a lot of new builds will just pour a concrete pad and store all the equipment outside, and I believe in some instances they will mount everything on the tower if it will support the load.
This is very cool, love to see old telecom
Thanks for watching we are slowly expanding. I would bet Comcast could do this everyday if they really wanted to.
The DSL (DS1) unit is a T1 system. Looks like a T1 multiplexer of some sort used for internal networking within verizon.
Probably for various internal company customers within the facility (cellular backhaul, telephone, security, ethernet/corporate data)
It looks like the consensus is that HDSL being bonded was the technology being used here. As far as I'm concerned DSL, T1 we are throwing it all out and putting in fiber DWDM 160G capacity so it gets a new life!
Very nice they preserved this istead of demolish so it can be reused. How do you plan to feed this, underground or aerial ?
we are like 99.97% underground
Well there is one thing I recognize: The Dirak 1333 key that comes with at least 50% of all no-name server racks
To get all the goodies that came with it and front cover the panels. Most of the work is already done for you. Then the multiple t1 stuff. It is like fully loaded.
Kirk really went to town in there and gutted the place we are getting our meter installed this week I will show an update once it's workable (i.e AC works lol)
Looks to be in pretty good shape, a light scrub with some bleach and she is brand new.
I'm sorry to report all the equipment is headed to the scrap yard.
You can bond two 768kbps SDSL into a T1 circuit.
Thanks for watching it's wild how far it's all come in a short period when this was a reality you needed to bond your T1s
pretty sure that is not a ups, I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure that is an amplifier for the tower.
Ended up being a combo of both the bottom half is actually acid batteries top is radio stuff.
@@briceperdue7587 Ah, yeah that makes sense considering they would want to limit downtime as much as possible.
Judging by the age, they were probably supplying T1 service instead of DSL. You pointed to a bonding ground in an installation attached to a giant lightning rod. and called it Verizon nonsense. Do you even understand electricity?
I'm specifically pointing to the lug being outside of the panel installed with nonapproved means that is not something that will pass code in the last 20 years. I spent the first half of my life working 480v with my father who was a master electrician. I was licensed but did not enjoy the work. Thanks for watching.
@@briceperdue7587 How often did your dad work on equipment that was expected to be hit by lightning several times every year?
@@jamesford7182 Touché sir we did the electrical work at the Bed Bath and Beyond, or the Kmarts! Which I don't think either exist today but not our fault haha. Thank goodness all our "nonsense" is underground by default the extra stuff with a giant 300ft piece of steel sticking up in the sky would almost certainly be a problem.
Great that it's being re-used! I hope someone lifts that in a few decades and wonders how the hell ice bags got under there
Haha yeah the used version I bet outlasts the new ones.
Anything around an RF tower must be grounded if not for electricity resonated RF frequency is the goal .anything loose ,or ungrounded makes for a bad day for the RF technician. Not so much a shock hazardous but data noise.
Thank goodness we don't do anything RF. Fiber just seems to check all the boxes
Long Lines was never a part of Verizon. Verizon was formed from an acquisition of GTE by Bell Atlantic. Long Lines was the department of the legacy AT&T that was responsible for the domestic and international long distance services of AT&T. The phone is a Trim Line phone, not Princess.
I just looked it up the trim line is 100% correct I've been calling those a princess for a long time now. Thanks for watching
@@briceperdue7587 Yeah, the Trimline phone came in two versions, either wall mounting or desk/table. The Princess phone came in strictly desktop/table. I enjoy your videos.
Those are not “DSL” cards, they are T1s. Before fiber all the tower sites used T1 backhaul, in this case 6 T1 lines.
Those are definitely DSL cards. By the mid-90s, HDSL and HDSL2 were used almost exclusively to deliver T1 circuits to subscribers on either 2 pairs (HDSL) or one pair (HDSL2).
This is what I was thinking we had a bonded DSL at an old office as a kid I remember. It might not of been a popular product but I think here it was.
Multiple T1s / NIUs to UMTS (cellular gear) looks like
Nice that does seem to be about the consensus. Either T1 or DSLs bonded it seems like more like what the core tech was running in the area.
NICE!! this is exciting !
this seems fun man, I want to work for ya :p
Well pack up your shit and move down here to MD. We are hiring nerds and anyone that wants to deploy fiber in any capacity.
@@briceperdue7587 will need h1b QwQ I'm not American :/
Would love to if I seriously got a opportunity tho, have no formal degrees but am interested in this stuff and would love to help along
Jesus H Christ we get it, ITS ICE!
LOL I assume you have seen that before! I just can't imagine it was the best solution but clearly it was. Thanks for watching
@@briceperdue7587 Oh I was SHOCKED that worked...you saying it 8,394,062,951,502 times is that drove me to make the comment. Very happy to find your channel, your living one of my dreams of starting an ISP.
@@aaronring2444 Yeah that was just my excitement in the moment clearly not scripted there haha! I just couldn't believe it to be possible either.
9:47 and that's why they're made of plastic! lolz :)
you inherit all their old crap but have to replace everything - quite a bit of time just to re outfit, time and money, but it is a long term investment
Yeah the old crap honestly is more nostalgic than anything. Also to see the thing rotting away vs buying a new one that prolly sucks in comparison.
I would totally turn this into a colocation for my servers.
I can colo your stuff in a much better facility than this if you need
@@briceperdue7587 More of a want than a need at the moment, all my infrastructure isn't critical since my organization is so small (limiting the cost of downtime) but once we grow It might become a need.
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