Hugo Viegas Got that right! AND then, the manufacturers would be going “Oh S#*t, the ratings just went through the roof with the 2 smokers over the thumpers. What just happened”? We the fans got what we wanted, that’s what!
But, actually I don’t even think they should have the restrictions on 250 2 strokes that Canada has. They should be allowed to mod them to the same regulations that the 4 strokes are allowed. The top teams would still run their 4 strokes; when ya have unlimited access to parts, running an engine that can rev to 15,500 rpm is the way to go for them. So, letting whoever wants to try their luck on a smoker mod it to their hearts content isn’t going to give the smoker rider an advantage in the least, but rather it would even the playing field for them a bit more.
Jay Moto if they allowed fully modded 2t with a rider that can ride a 2t properly it would be all over for the 4t, embarrassing, they allowed it here at our nats for a few years and even in mud conditions they still won and the guy while one of our best ever racers was in his twilight years still won on the 2t. Darryl King. The argument is mute factories want to sell 4t they can bleed more from consumers. That’s why you won’t ever see Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki ever produce them again, Yamaha will continue as they kept production so really no cost to them and they because of KTM saw that they’re was still a big market for average riders wanting 2t and lower cost. It always cracks me up we have heavier bikes more complicated, higher cost twice the capacity engine size wise to be competitive or better, how consumers were sucked into this amazes me even today.
This needs to happen at every round. Pre-mix, reed valves, and carburetors will make mx great again. It would have been cool to see Steve Lamson in this too. A 125 all star race at Hangtown just screams his name. Also on a sad note about 125 greats, R.I.P. Brian Swink 125 Legend.
Armen Mike Gabriel Yeah Swink was great to watch on a 125 back then. He just went for it all the time. He was an inspiration for me at the time when I was on 60s and 80s. What about Ezra Lusk and Mickael Pichon? I really miss the mid and late 90s motocross. Even the early 2000s with my boys from District 5 jumping in there Travis Pastrana and Branden Jesseman.
Maverick224 To give you an idea Gared Steinke ran an outdoor season one year. He did quite well when the track wasn’t full of hills or obviously the sand of Southwick. His results varied dramatically based on I believe the track as he’s pretty consistent and pretty fast too.
J A yeah agree, yeah I have followed the Dream Race series from the start and Stenke Dawg, but this year looks another level well this race anyways, check out Pings Bike check if you haven’t already, looks like the boys are getting pretty serious, RVs YZ is tuned to the max, that KTM of the young kids is basically everything KTM could throw at it, he’s a KTM junior program rider, it’s great to see, just after watching this and the 250f pro class these boys look fast to me. I have always loved 125s, it takes skills to ride fast on one which you develop can’t buy.
I really can't like this race enough! I'm more excited to see this race than the 450 main! But I'm also intrigued to see the lap times from the 125cc winner and the 250cc winner to see how far off the pace the little 125 is compared to a factory 250f
I’d be willing to bet that more pro’s wouldn’t mind changing things up a bit with a 125/250 2 stroke race. Carmichael said it best, “what’s not to like about a 2 stroke, they sound good, they smell good and are a blast to ride.” KTM and Husky certainly know what’s up and At least Yamaha and Kawasaki are spending money towards new 2 strokes and Suzuki won’t be far. Honda needs to wake up.. I personally think the outdoor series should feature 250/450 4 stroke along with 125/250 2 stroke (in separate classes of course) and SX should be 125/250 2 stroke with a 250 4 stroke class. Leave 450’s outside. You’ll see less injuries and I think pro’s still dig a 2 stroke.
No Kaw...what you see is what you will ever get. i guarantee Honda, Kaw, and Suzuki are done with 2 stroke forever...It would cost way more than they could ever hope to recover to get started again and Suzuki surely can't afford it. However there are a few not so well known european brands standing in the wings...TM, Gas Gas, Beta to name a few if you have lotto money to spend...
Did honda do a deal with Cali to ban 2 stroke?. c alifornia must be paying Honda to not make Cr 500 s as honda would sell all they could supply , This is the only industry that has a product that will sell but refuse to make it ?
Why would they bother? Because no one (but about 500 people) would watch it. Same reason it is almost impossible to find GOOD pro motorcycle racing on "regular TV" - especially in the US. And why would they bother when it costs very little to put the vid online (just like we are watching here.) They would lose their ass financially if they tried to put an event like this on "real TV." Sucks, but true. If it ain't some B.S. "reality show" or some other B.S. TV (that the rest of the real viewing public really wants to see) this stuff that WE like will never be on regular TV. It's no different than 20 years ago when we had to record these races on our VCR - because it came on ESPN2 or Speed Channel at like 2am - (same reason as above.) As much as we would like to THINK this is what the regular pubic want - it is not. And that is a damn shame. This is why RUclips, Red Bull TV, Dailymotion, Livestream and similar streaming apps are so great. WE can watch all of this awesome stuff whenever we want on any connected device - FOR FREE. I use my Roku box on my BIG TV and it is fab. Gotta love it.
yea this race is way better than the 4 strokes more passing and nobody pulls out to 1min plus leads and shit great sound also this to me is dirtbike racing
I believe Ryan could train 1 month, jump back on a 450, and by 5 races in be on the podium or win. So could Dungey. You never loose it, just have to want it enough to be in the best shape. Great rider 👍🏻
Like many before me have said, Please televise these races. I personally would rather watch this than ANY AX, Flat track or other form of motorcycle racing that makes its way on TV.
I know Villo is probably not really in shape or anything but I'm still kinda surprised he didn't have the raw/natural speed to win this... what was it only 5 laps? Nothing against the young-gun that won (never heard of him - don't follow amateur ranks anymore)... but I just figured RV would still win considering the dude was always just insanely fast.
Dude I had the same exact thought. When I read the results online I figured he must have had a tip over. Pretty shocked he didn't win this. Kinda like him not winning Red Bull Straight Rhythm.
Remember it's a 125 and Ryan probably outweighs that Aiden kid by 20+ LBS. And he's having fun I've always been a fan, but watching Ryan have fun now is awesome.
Never said he couldn't have a girlfriend. However, "his lady" you're referring to in the video is likely approaching 40 years old, and that would be strange. A quick Google search shows that the woman in the video after the race is his mother.
So, the reason Suzuki, Kawasaki, Honda no longer make a FULL LINE of 2-strokes is what again? Oh yeah, they are "outlawed. " Mmmhmmmm. Remember all the B.S. we were told back in the early 2000's? All B.S.... GIVE US 2-stroke BIKES and we will buy them! SIMPLE AS THAT (especially for the youngsters who are newbies in racing.) ENOUGH SAID
I was just sitting here watching this race and thinking how huge would it be if James Stewart wanted to race this low impact series maybe next year I know he is over racing but imagine the attendance at these events!,
**WOW** FACTS... BY FAR BETTER FOOTAGE THAN THE NATIONAL -- MX IS MY SOAP OPERA... WHO THE HELL IS TIJERO-OMG* DUDE "MYERSCOUGH" RE-INCARNATED... WAY TO GO KID!!! MULTIPLE CAMERAS-AWESOME NEED MORE BACK AND FORTH AND A *SWAP-CAM* -- SORRY DONN* SO BACK MARKERS CAN GET SOME LOVE... INCREDIBLE! JAY** 7z
Takes a real rider to race a 2 stroke. I have both and way prefer the 2 strokes but in race conditions the 4 stroke is just way easer to race and win on effort less you can't get a single corner or gear selection wrong on a 125 but on a 250f you get away with out losing to much time so in my opinion if you can ride a 2 stroke your a much better rider.
john rickey 4 strokes made the sport much faster. 2 strokes are fun, but can not compare to a modern 4 stroke. I have raced 2 strokes all my like and I can admit 4 strokes are superior.
superior with twice the cc,how can u say that,a 450cc two stroke would blow away a 450 4 suck,and same with a 250,ya they race 250cc 2 strokes against 4 strokes in Canada but only privateers can ride them and they cant modify the engine.go figure,who needs a 60hp 4 stroke on a supercross track,no one.That is why u have so many guys getting hurt.4 strokes suck,just face it.
BEST RACING SOUNDS***********EVER************ 125cc ABSOLUTELY ROCK****** WHERE'S -- GLOVER BARNETT O'MARA HANNAH SMITH HESS MAKI TURNER EROPKIN TRIPES WARD JOHNSON McGRATH ###1### ALL-TIME **MYERSCOUGH**.... BRING EM ALL BACK! JAY** 7z
We want to watch these 125 races NBC sports!
Hugo Viegas Got that right! AND then, the manufacturers would be going “Oh S#*t, the ratings just went through the roof with the 2 smokers over the thumpers. What just happened”? We the fans got what we wanted, that’s what!
It should totally be at least included with the NBC Sports Gold Pass! If they can show us qualifying sessions - they can show us the All-Star race!
yessss
were lucky enough to get 1 moto cmon man haha
There’s enough standby time on nbcsn gold that they could atleast do a decent highlight of all stars...
Awesome video! Thank you for not having any music! Screaming 125's are music to any moto fan's ears!
Wonderful little things,ama nationals need this class .😂
Great way to format a helmet cam race! Do more if possible!
Big kudos to Racer X going the extra mile to give us this coverage when the cameras weren't available.
Amazing to have them back at the Nationals for seven rounds on Pro Day!
damnn Aiden has some freakin speed! his lines were amazing
The only way this gets any better is an additional 250 race.
The 250 smokers should be in the actual pro 250 class. The results won't change, but it would just be nice to have them racing.
Yep, you’re exactly right
But, actually I don’t even think they should have the restrictions on 250 2 strokes that Canada has. They should be allowed to mod them to the same regulations that the 4 strokes are allowed. The top teams would still run their 4 strokes; when ya have unlimited access to parts, running an engine that can rev to 15,500 rpm is the way to go for them. So, letting whoever wants to try their luck on a smoker mod it to their hearts content isn’t going to give the smoker rider an advantage in the least, but rather it would even the playing field for them a bit more.
Jay Moto if they allowed fully modded 2t with a rider that can ride a 2t properly it would be all over for the 4t, embarrassing, they allowed it here at our nats for a few years and even in mud conditions they still won and the guy while one of our best ever racers was in his twilight years still won on the 2t. Darryl King. The argument is mute factories want to sell 4t they can bleed more from consumers. That’s why you won’t ever see Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki ever produce them again, Yamaha will continue as they kept production so really no cost to them and they because of KTM saw that they’re was still a big market for average riders wanting 2t and lower cost. It always cracks me up we have heavier bikes more complicated, higher cost twice the capacity engine size wise to be competitive or better, how consumers were sucked into this amazes me even today.
Ok
This needs to happen at every round. Pre-mix, reed valves, and carburetors will make mx great again. It would have been cool to see Steve Lamson in this too. A 125 all star race at Hangtown just screams his name. Also on a sad note about 125 greats, R.I.P. Brian Swink 125 Legend.
Dominic Sinicrope would be good to see a Lammy replica 96 cr125 out there, see how competitive it is!?
Peter Noy I think a full Team Honda factory build would hold its own.
Love Ping too. Yeah sad about Swink. Was awesome on the team peak Honda
Armen Mike Gabriel Yeah Swink was great to watch on a 125 back then. He just went for it all the time. He was an inspiration for me at the time when I was on 60s and 80s. What about Ezra Lusk and Mickael Pichon? I really miss the mid and late 90s motocross. Even the early 2000s with my boys from District 5 jumping in there Travis Pastrana and Branden Jesseman.
All of Aiden's training and dedication is really paying dividends. A great kid and a great family. Can't wait to see him turn pro.
What a great editing job and thumbs up for the best race of 2018.
150's allowed in the 125 class? This is just awesome!! Thanks for the upload. Have a Great Day
That was completely awesome. But I’d still like to see the race... anyone?
Awesome race, love to see the lap times of the top 5 125 vs the top 250fs these guys were hauling ass, this is MX.
Maverick224 Yessir!!! Preach it brother!
Gray Sinclair right to the finish line brother amen👻
Maverick224
To give you an idea Gared Steinke ran an outdoor season one year. He did quite well when the track wasn’t full of hills or obviously the sand of Southwick. His results varied dramatically based on I believe the track as he’s pretty consistent and pretty fast too.
J A yeah agree, yeah I have followed the Dream Race series from the start and Stenke Dawg, but this year looks another level well this race anyways, check out Pings Bike check if you haven’t already, looks like the boys are getting pretty serious, RVs YZ is tuned to the max, that KTM of the young kids is basically everything KTM could throw at it, he’s a KTM junior program rider, it’s great to see, just after watching this and the 250f pro class these boys look fast to me. I have always loved 125s, it takes skills to ride fast on one which you develop can’t buy.
Pack of angry bees (swarm?)! Need these guys at every National Davey!
Hatchet Harry Such a beautiful sound. Probably smelled good to
indeed! I miss that sound from the old dayz!
I have a feeling villopoto is gonna go home and train his ass off, come back to the next race and win.
LC dungey going next year on 125
He needs to get off a Yamaha first
Man I need to get a dirt bike again. Looks like a freaking blast out there!
Ryan was smiling!
Glad to see villapoto back and having fun but making these kids do work!
thank goodness you's fixed the audio
Love riding the 125s, it’s like riding a big mini bike
That coverage is so sick. I can smell the 2 stroke in the air
So sick how they put on events like this!
That was fantastic ! Thanks :-) Look forward to the next round.
Just got 5 mins in before I realised this was 2018 not today, 2019. Still I stayed and watched the whole vid cause who doesn’t love 2 strokes !!
There we go :) Awesome video
@Jay Dalton BMX I want to see you on the gate next year dude!! keep practicing and we will get you in
Nicole’s peppers
That track though...my kidneys hurt just watching this!
Just plain awesome!!!!!!!
I really can't like this race enough! I'm more excited to see this race than the 450 main! But I'm also intrigued to see the lap times from the 125cc winner and the 250cc winner to see how far off the pace the little 125 is compared to a factory 250f
I’d be willing to bet that more pro’s wouldn’t mind changing things up a bit with a 125/250 2 stroke race. Carmichael said it best, “what’s not to like about a 2 stroke, they sound good, they smell good and are a blast to ride.” KTM and Husky certainly know what’s up and At least Yamaha and Kawasaki are spending money towards new 2 strokes and Suzuki won’t be far. Honda needs to wake up.. I personally think the outdoor series should feature 250/450 4 stroke along with 125/250 2 stroke (in separate classes of course) and SX should be 125/250 2 stroke with a 250 4 stroke class. Leave 450’s outside. You’ll see less injuries and I think pro’s still dig a 2 stroke.
Would love to see it. Do you know how Ping ended up? Looks like he got a pretty good start.
kawi is? i havent heard this
No Kaw...what you see is what you will ever get. i guarantee Honda, Kaw, and Suzuki are done with 2 stroke forever...It would cost way more than they could ever hope to recover to get started again and Suzuki surely can't afford it. However there are a few not so well known european brands standing in the wings...TM, Gas Gas, Beta to name a few if you have lotto money to spend...
Did honda do a deal with Cali to ban 2 stroke?. c alifornia must be paying Honda to not make Cr 500 s as honda would sell all they could supply , This is the only industry that has a product that will sell but refuse to make it ?
Check out the European EMX 125 races, they’re also f ing awesome
Bring 'em back!
Please make a 250 All Star Series next Season! 😍
Awesome video and production, Congrats to channel!
4:16 style! woooo them 125s be barkin hard.
8:20 is also killer!!!
Wonder what RVs lap times were compared to the 250 motos?
Slower. Much Much slower. But the track became very muddy-sloppy later in the day, so, laptimes will be skewed.
Why is this not televised?!
Why would they bother? Because no one (but about 500 people) would watch it. Same reason it is almost impossible to find GOOD pro motorcycle racing on "regular TV" - especially in the US. And why would they bother when it costs very little to put the vid online (just like we are watching here.) They would lose their ass financially if they tried to put an event like this on "real TV." Sucks, but true. If it ain't some B.S. "reality show" or some other B.S. TV (that the rest of the real viewing public really wants to see) this stuff that WE like will never be on regular TV. It's no different than 20 years ago when we had to record these races on our VCR - because it came on ESPN2 or Speed Channel at like 2am - (same reason as above.) As much as we would like to THINK this is what the regular pubic want - it is not. And that is a damn shame. This is why RUclips, Red Bull TV, Dailymotion, Livestream and similar streaming apps are so great. WE can watch all of this awesome stuff whenever we want on any connected device - FOR FREE. I use my Roku box on my BIG TV and it is fab. Gotta love it.
Great to hear the roar of two strokes.
David was killin it!! hahaha this was awesome
Thanks for improoving this upload
They gotta race these guys in 250 4 banger class
wheres carson brown???
Bring back the two stroker smokers!!!
Shit yeah! Nothing sounds better!!
Actually they should bring this whole 2 stroke venue back when this is all over
Glorious!
Aaah that's better!...
ok so i wasn't the only one that was confused by the sound..?
el tombre My sentiments exactly!
i love that uphill roller section 2:17
Jimmy 7 could make this a full series with more people showing up just to see him wreck the class and put the young gun back in the holster..
I can't get enough 😎
Man that kids already peaked haha, don't know if it could get any better beating Villopoto and Hahn
yea this race is way better than the 4 strokes more passing and nobody pulls out to 1min plus leads and shit great sound also this to me is dirtbike racing
James Stewart please
Man Sh!t you sir talkin some good shit I tell ya 👍🏽👍🏽
In his prime, he would have SMOKED everyone on a 125. Unfortunately, he isn't in his prime anymore.
first you have to make him come out of his cave
The cheat?
you mean he DID smoke everyone on a 125 ;) probably still would!
Nice edit!
I believe Ryan could train 1 month, jump back on a 450, and by 5 races in be on the podium or win. So could Dungey. You never loose it, just have to want it enough to be in the best shape. Great rider 👍🏻
Like many before me have said, Please televise these races. I personally would rather watch this than ANY AX, Flat track or other form of motorcycle racing that makes its way on TV.
Watching 2 smokers race, is better then spending time with my lady!😅
I know Villo is probably not really in shape or anything but I'm still kinda surprised he didn't have the raw/natural speed to win this... what was it only 5 laps? Nothing against the young-gun that won (never heard of him - don't follow amateur ranks anymore)... but I just figured RV would still win considering the dude was always just insanely fast.
Dude I had the same exact thought. When I read the results online I figured he must have had a tip over. Pretty shocked he didn't win this. Kinda like him not winning Red Bull Straight Rhythm.
He just isn't in the kind of shape yet to really rock out. If he was in peak form he would have won this pretty easily.
I guess it's just weird to see. Especially when Carmichael came out to do those 250 races a few years back and won them easily.
RV2 is far from his racing shape and being on a smaller bike. Give him a 450F with all his specs and settings.
Remember it's a 125 and Ryan probably outweighs that Aiden kid by 20+ LBS. And he's having fun I've always been a fan, but watching Ryan have fun now is awesome.
EPIC !!!
Did anyone notice that when he won the race, after doing the burnout, that his lady said I love you! That is magical..
That "lady" is his Mother. Aiden is only 16 years old.
So he can't have a girlfriend if he's 16 ??
Never said he couldn't have a girlfriend. However, "his lady" you're referring to in the video is likely approaching 40 years old, and that would be strange. A quick Google search shows that the woman in the video after the race is his mother.
Wonder if she's single 🤔
So, the reason Suzuki, Kawasaki, Honda no longer make a FULL LINE of 2-strokes is what again? Oh yeah, they are "outlawed. " Mmmhmmmm. Remember all the B.S. we were told back in the early 2000's? All B.S.... GIVE US 2-stroke BIKES and we will buy them! SIMPLE AS THAT (especially for the youngsters who are newbies in racing.) ENOUGH SAID
David Harris Honda and them don't have the money no more
Is there a Wil Hahn GoPro? I’d like to see it. His bike sounded amazing
I was just sitting here watching this race and thinking how huge would it be if James Stewart wanted to race this low impact series maybe next year I know he is over racing but imagine the attendance at these events!,
Loving this.Good ride for all of them but was that Jimmy Albertson passing Ping on a TM?
What were their lap times compared to the 450's and 250's anyone know? Also listen at 5:48 of the motor-tranny!!
Why isnt there a 250 race?
**WOW** FACTS... BY FAR BETTER FOOTAGE THAN THE NATIONAL -- MX IS MY SOAP OPERA... WHO THE HELL IS TIJERO-OMG* DUDE "MYERSCOUGH" RE-INCARNATED... WAY TO GO KID!!! MULTIPLE CAMERAS-AWESOME NEED MORE BACK AND FORTH AND A *SWAP-CAM* -- SORRY DONN* SO BACK MARKERS CAN GET SOME LOVE... INCREDIBLE! JAY** 7z
the killer bees are back!
A 2nd place for the #2......he still got it All Day!
Awesome
thay should makes these races longer dont nobody care who wins the big boy classes
Perfeito! :)
I will never trade my 125 for a 4 joke-something
That KTM screamed power.
RV really lost a few steps. Dude used to make the rest of the field look stupid.
Alex Rogers he’s also like 40 pounds heavier than the rest of the field on a 125...
WOW YOU BEAT A BUNCH OF OLD DUDES WHY WAS THIS KID IN WITH THE 35+ RACE
Aiden rode smoother than Ryan also some fantastic lines.. rpms were perfect, he didn't let off the throttle
Takes a real rider to race a 2 stroke. I have both and way prefer the 2 strokes but in race conditions the 4 stroke is just way easer to race and win on effort less you can't get a single corner or gear selection wrong on a 125 but on a 250f you get away with out losing to much time so in my opinion if you can ride a 2 stroke your a much better rider.
James called me the other day and said he will be at the next one....
MrRonronnj I wish
Anyone no what lap Times for the 125
Aiden turned lap times in the 2:26 range and would have qualified 26th in the 250 class. Jeremy Martin qualified 1st with a 2:16.9 in the 250's.
Paging Mike Brown.....Mike Brown you're wanted on the starting gate.....Mike Brown...
Aiden tijero is from my town I used to hangout w him at the skatepark and at his house
hey Ryan, is it still just a job, or do you love it again?
I,d go to water if i came up to those ruts
Ping should have turned that '92 CR125 loose out there!
Red bull and ktm should do an invitational on 150sx bikes. Not invite only, take sign ups as well. Race weekend shit.
Very good 125 2t ! and to see again R V...250 2t ? R C and R D, J S ?
Woooooooooooooo vipoto and Aidan was 1st and 2nd
DO they only give them one moto on the day ?
Where did Ronnie Mac place?
💯💯
Wish they would do this shit for supercross
ronnie mac #0
lol he should have taken 69..... wait but then he would have gave it away. ah everyone already knows
Someone buy Aiden a steak. That was awesome.
How is Aiden Tijero an All Star?
can we get rid of 4strokes,this is the way racing should be,125,250 2strokes.I have hated 4strokes since day one.
john rickey that’s the dummest thing I’ve ever heard
I take it you ride a 4stroke,I guess you like paying 10 thousand dollars for a bike,thats all 4strokes did for the sport,make it more exspensive.
john rickey 4 strokes made the sport much faster. 2 strokes are fun, but can not compare to a modern 4 stroke. I have raced 2 strokes all my like and I can admit 4 strokes are superior.
superior with twice the cc,how can u say that,a 450cc two stroke would blow away a 450 4 suck,and same with a 250,ya they race 250cc 2 strokes against 4 strokes in Canada but only privateers can ride them and they cant modify the engine.go figure,who needs a 60hp 4 stroke on a supercross track,no one.That is why u have so many guys getting hurt.4 strokes suck,just face it.
two strokes are more fun,more power per cc,and they sound awesome.4 strokes suck,sound terrible and can be used as boat anchors.
BEST RACING SOUNDS***********EVER************ 125cc ABSOLUTELY ROCK****** WHERE'S -- GLOVER BARNETT O'MARA HANNAH SMITH HESS MAKI TURNER EROPKIN TRIPES WARD JOHNSON McGRATH ###1### ALL-TIME **MYERSCOUGH**.... BRING EM ALL BACK! JAY** 7z
Aiden is no joke never heard of him ?
I thought Pingree had a show bike not a race bike
i clicked liked only because there wasn't a loved