Bowhunting Binoculars 10x42 or 8x42 What is Better
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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Whats better for your hunting style? 8 power or 10 power binoculars?
lets look at some great bow hunting binoculars 10x42 or 8x42 to see whats better for you.
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This guy always cuts the bs an I dig how to the point he is an I actually understand what hes putting down. Truly appreciate his efforts
Greatly appreciated. Thank you.
It's a 12 minute video on binoculars. He's full of shit, not cutting bs.
5 decades ago, the standard all-purpose bino was 8x30, and even back then they had known for a long time that 8x was what gave you the best results if you did a lot of serious observing. Nowadays we have lighter materials like magnesium and high-strength plastic, and better types of glass that allow us to make thinner and lighter lenses and prisms (not to speak of MUCH better lens coatings), so the standard is 40-42 mm objective lenses because that size bino is now light enough to hold up and not have your arms get wobbly after a minute. It collects more light, so it's better in low light or at night.
But we also have a choice: 8 times or 10 times (and some other choices if you want to be extra special). 10x proved profitable for the manufacturers of binoculars, because which read-blooded American doesn't want just a little more size? Well, the optics firms are ready to sell it to you, and the 10x is most likely the exact same binocular as the 8x except for the ocular assembly.
Let's compare: With the 10x your target appears 25% bigger, and the apparent area it covers is even 56% bigger. All your arm shakes also appear 25% larger, and as he said so well in the video, because of that it's pretty much a wash for how much you can discern. So your target appears 56% bigger, but the same amount of light makes that bigger image, so the image's surface brightness is only 64% of the surface brightness of the seemingly smaller image you get with an 8x optic - not so good if you don't have much light. Your field of view also gets 20% narrower with the 10x, allowing you to see only 64% of the area you can see with the 8x binos. And another little quirk of the laws of optics, the higher your magnification, the shallower your depth of field, so you will be doing more frequent focus adjustments.
Other than image size, the 8x has nothing but advantages, but the urge to have more magnification is strong even when you know better. You will need to do some observing before you realize that the size of your image is not the all-deciding factor for how much you can see. Most important are two other things: one, the quality of the optical system - does it give you a SHARP image with tons of contrast and color definition and an almost 3-D effect? How small a detail can you see? Two, how well does it handle - can you grab it comfortably, is the focus wheel where your hands expect it, and how lightweight does it appear? How long can you look through it and keep your image steady, and how easily and precisely can you adjust the focus, diopter, eyecups and hinge? Only after those two points are checked off should you consider magnification.
One problem: unless you have a lot of experience with various binoculars, you cannot judge those things very well. Every view through a binocular will initially look good! That's why you need a situation where you can compare them side by side on the same target under the same lighting conditions (and you should select some dim lighting because that is where the wheat really separates from the chaff). Chances are the binoculars you know have been fine for years, and you were 99% happy with them. Then you look through a really good pair, and suddenly you realize that your old binos were pretty bad in comparison. Comparison really is the name of the game if you are in the market for new binoculars. But ideally, before you even start comparing binocular models, do some serious observing with the old ones you likely have available. Try to get the absolute maximum of detail, contrast and color out of the objects you observe. Train your eyes, and train your brain to wring all the possible information out of the image you see. Become a trained observer who does not only look at an image but who is able to wring the maximum amount of detail out of that same image!
And just as said in the video: start with a regular old entry-level binocular, which you may already have or can easily afford. Learn to use that really well, and start saving while you train yourself in this way. Only when you have gone as far as you can possibly go with the entry-level ones and you know you will continue to use binoculars - then you may go and hunt for the best, and you will be able to tell which one is the best for you!
And a pro tip: when you find the one binocular that is the very best for you and outperforms everything else, make sure you buy that very unit! Manufacturers make them to more or less stringent specifications (the more pricey, the more stringent), but even for high-grade optics, here and there the god of optics Ernst Abbe blesses a particular instrument, and it ends up performing significantly better than even other units of the very same model. Heads up, and good luck!
Absolutely excellent comment loaded with amazing information. Appreciate you taking the time to write it and help all of us. Thank you
As far as I know there's one slight misconception here.
The 8*42 has an exit pupil of 5.25mm, the 8*42 has an exit pupil of 4.2mm. I believe the brightness of both those areas will be exactly the same, only one is wider than the other.
Not brighter but wider.
But this only improves the viewing experience if the pupil of the user is dilated/open more than 4.2mm.
If the user has a pupil dilated/open more than 4.2mm than he will be better off with the 8*42 but otherwise there won't be any difference in brightness because the bonus light won't hit the retina.
Elder people for instance might not be able to dilate their pupils that far and thus they shouldn't prefer the 8*42 based on their better low light perf.
That's how I remember it. What do you think ?
@@claudej8805 I have heard that before about age and pupil dialation. However I always looked at it like this. The human pupil adjusts to available light. And the 5.2 gathering puts more light in the bino. More light in the bino is easier for the user to see.
This is exactly what I needed to hear. I bought a 12x42 and immediately returned it, then was on the fence between 8x42 and 10x42. Not wanting to risk shake from hand-holding, I’m going for the 8x42. Thanks!
You will love the 8x42s
At least someone talks sense and I can order binos without worrying that I have to return 4 out of 5 pairs ordered. Thanks for your help. You can talk & you know your stuff comprehensively. Lovely review. Much appreciated.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
That was so informative. I'm a photographer so I understood your explanation perfectly. Loss of light and lack of stability steered me to the 8 instead of the 10.
👍I love your channel because you are able to be empathetic and explain little nuances that no one else talks about! Lol, I thought I was developing Parkinsons because my view was shaking so bad! I feel so much better that this is normal operation. Thanks and good luck this season!
Glad you enjoyed the video! Yep hand holding binos can be tricky the more powerful they are the worse it gets.
Thanks,I was on the fence now I’ve decided - 8x42 it is 👍
You will love wm
Thank you for this review. Personally, I found the 12x50 was zoom and shake at the expense of field of view, 8x42 was mostly field of view at the expense of getting in close enough. However, 10x42 is the Goldilocks one for me: it gets me in closer whilst also having a decent field of view, without the shaking I got with 12x50.
Perfect. Love that you have tried em all and found what works best for you
I love my 7x42 canons. quick to focus on target and the dept of field helps me stay on target if its moving.
@@RonTruocchio love canon glass
straight to the point not like others rivew. i learned more about binocular from this straight point guy from others. easy explanation and very easy to understand. the point i got from him very simple. just buy swaroski binocular. if you dont have money right now, wait until you get money. if you buy cheaper bino you will buy one buy one and still not satisfied. when you look back ,you will regret because cheap binos you already bought take your money from you pocket more than single swaroski and you cant sell it with good price cause its cheaper andnot have any value compare with swaroski binocular. that it. like what this straight to the point gu alread said....YOU BUY SWAROSKI BINOCULAR AND YOU DONT NEED TO BUY ANY BINOCULAR ANYMORE. VERY VERY STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. THANKS GURU.....
That's the exact point I was trying to get across. If you want high quality binos buy Swarovski.
The other downfall of 10x vs 8x is also less field of view as well. I agree that 10x is more of a specialty glass and frankly people would be better off stepping up to a 12x or spotting scope if 6-8x isn’t enough. Anything over 8x needs to be stabilized
10x42 for me. Great vid Im glad i came upon your channel thank you brother.
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying the vids
Couldn't agree more with this video. I bought the vortex viper hd 10x42 2 years ago since it was a big upgrade from my cheap Bushnell 10x42. I hunted with the 8x42 viper hd last year and was surprised by how much better the 8x42 was suited for bowhunting in Minnesota. I use the 10 powers from the truck or for late season hunts but carry the 8 powers much more often when actually hunting. Thanks for the useful info.
Thanks! Its nice to have both 10 and 8. But im with you and very rarely use the 10s hunting
Thank you. This is the most helpful video out there on binoculars
Glad you enjoyed it.
Fantastic review.... I'm looking to buy some binoculars while I'm out hiking I was thinking the higher the power the better.. This cleared it up for me I think the 8x are perfect for me... Thanks for helping me not buy the wrong binoculars
Glad you enjoyed the video.
@@SamkoTradBow now to decide on budget and maker... I'm thinking barr and stroud offer good value for money... Thanks again for your help very much appreciated
Lovely balanced review.
Also, 10 and higher power is used for initial astronomy also.
Thanks! I did not know they were used for astronomy as well.
I own a pair of 12x36 Canon image stabilized binoculars and wouldn't trade them in for anything. They provide plenty of light in almost every situation with a slight disadvantage during twilight hours, provide way better magnification and are rock steady without the need of a tripod or having to lock arms in an awkward posture. The only improvement I'd wish for is for better close focus.
Canon makes great optics and has best image stabilization in the industry
After thinking long and hard, just order 8x42. Good video thanks brother.
Perfect do it all size
with a ten power you have to focusing more, have less deep field so the close items you have to focusing every few meters, with the 8x start the pont of infinite focus closer than a 10x. For example for follow birds in a garden is much better one 8x
I agree. 8x is much easier to work with than 10x. With 10x I have to put down whatever I'm holding and use 2 hands to stabilize good.
THANK YOU FOR HONESTY. I THOUGHT THE HIGHER THE BETTER. IM GOING WITH 8X
You will be very happy with the 8s
Thank you for keeping things simple very good video .
Dude you're awesome for this review. Exactly what i was looking for!
Glad ypu enjoyed it
8X42 is probably best for me general use with night vision. For traveling at night
Steiner IMO have been the clearest binoculars I've ever looked through regardless of brand. I wish I could have justified the expense of a couple of the higher end models. I was lucky and bought a pair of Steiner Military Marine 7x50 binoculars at a gun show many years ago. I used those on third watch as a patrol officer. They were amazing at night. I couldn't believe the light gathering ability they had. The other benefit of this model was that after you adjusted the eye pieces to your eye's, the binoculars were now focused regardless of distance. Much later I bought a pair of compact Burris Signature Select 10x32. They were clear, but the 10 power magnification was at times difficult to stabilize. I wish now that I had gotten the 8 power model.
@kurtp5379 yep I like 8 power more too. Easier to handle hold with one hand and not shake
I signed up to give you a review, you are such a good expert!
Thnaks
Good to know.... 8x42 seems to be a good power for bird watching...
Yep and probably most popular. I would think the 10x42 would be great and get you a little closer for the fine details.
Thanks for simplifying my decision. Great video fantastic explanation.
Thanks
Currently trying to decide between the NL pure 8x42 and 10x42. I’m leaning more toward the 8x42 after watching the vid. 80% of my hunting will be in the East for white tail, but 20% will be Texas and Wyoming for bigger game.
The Swarovski NL pure 10x42 has about the same FOV as the 8x42EL, so it’s kind of a tough choice because I kinda want 1 pair of binos to cover all my hunting.
The 10x will be harder to hold steady with one hand. That's the only difference. Personally I'd go with the 8s but can't go wrong either way. Or go with the 10s and supplement with a cheap pair of vortex 8s for some of the tight eastern stuff where the quality is not as important.
Cruel arseholes leave the animals alone ,
I disagree about skipping the middle stuff. That’s actually where the value is. With lens technology these there actually isn’t a huge improvement from mid level to top level glass. In other words there is a much bigger difference between a $200 set of binoculars and a $4-600set of binoculars than there is between a $4-600 set of binoculars and a $1000 set of binoculars. I would rather have a mid level 8x set of binoculars and a mid level 12x binocular or spotting scope than just a high end set of binoculars for the same amount of money.
Sounds like you have what works great for you. I disagree and thing the difference between 200 and 800 is marginal but the difference between 800 and 2000 is huge.
@@SamkoTradBow That's your (probably exclusive) view. Because physically it is very logical that to improve a cheaper glass and fabrication can be easily improved while it takes a lot of research to improve on an already good glass! You nearing what is physically and technically possible.
I'd rather buy a pair of 8x42 GPO Passion ED bins (for around $400) than those Vortex (for around $200)! Not only because the GPO ones are superior to those Vortex but also because those GPO are almost as good as binoculars of a $1000! That tells a lot about quality improvement you get for your money! :P
@@MusikPiratCH to each thoer own! I have 3 pairs of swarvos and 2 pairs of vortex. So thst tell you where I think money is best spent. I do not feel 400 or 800 dollar glass is worth it. Either got right to the top or go with a good quality cheap pair until you can or need higher quality. When you do go straight to the top. My opinion (exclusive or not).
@@SamkoTradBow Thanks for answering. As you said binoculars are very individual. What is good for you might be unsuitable for me (specially Vortex as I wear glasses)!
You can see even a huge difference in optical quality if you compare the cheapest Swarovski line to the most expensive (to show what I mean on your favorite brand)! However even Swarovski had to do a lot of research to improve on their excellent EL glass and finally introduced their new top line in September 2020 with the NL Pure line! ;)
You are fun to watch and entertaining......Thanks for great explaination ❤️
Thank you
Thanks for this review it’s helped me make a decision
Very good informative video.
Thanks. Glad yoy liked it
Awesome review brother. This made me decide to go with 8x. Thank you.
8x is my favorite
I completely agree with you, 8x42 are the more all around but I personally prefer 7x binoculars. Alas they are very rare nowadays in the top class, only Leica Ultravids, and Nikon EDG can be still found new
Yep love 7 power! Wish more people saw the value then more companies would make them again.
@@SamkoTradBow I hesitated recently between the Swarovski EL 8,5x42 and the Nikon EDG 7x42. I know the Swarovski are slightly better and right now, due to the new NL pure, even less expensive, plus Swaro has great customer service but I've opted for the Nikon EDG just because of the 7x. I have to wait another 2 weeks to receive them and in the meantime, I'm enjoying the Kowa BD 6,5x32
@@lespleiadesdutaureau7349 7x42s are amazing. I have a 30 year old pair of bauch and lamb 7x42s I bought new then for 450.00, still have them! Best light gathering of any bino I have ever used.
Swarovski Habicht 7x42
15x’s on the tripod, 8x around the neck.
Out west yes. Here in the east and thick stuff 8 ir 10 is the max.
Wlasnie wczoraj kupilem Nikon Monarch 7 8-42 .wczesniej uzywalem tez Nikona 10-25 bardzo kompaktowy do kieszeni uniwersalny.Thanks greats information.Pozdrawiam z UK
Bad question really... You see it a lot, but, the two binoculars are for different purposes and different applications, and both have advantages and disadvantages over the other. The 8x will offer better light gathering with its near 5mm exit pupil and therefore more generous eyebox and less shake/ bigger field of view. But, the 10x will be better for observing more shy and timid nature at distance, and in more detail - especially SMALLER animals or birds, better for general purpose use (e.g. viewing yachting and shipping offshore), and still a reasonably generous 4.2mm exit pupil, but you will need better quality high light transmission binoculars to minimise the light losses (Zeiss, Leica and Swarovski are great for that, especially, but very expensive). 8 x is better for tracking fast moving nature, so birders tend to favour this magnification. I own 10x as I find them to be excellent for all purposes, and I got Swarovski because of their exceptionally good control over chromatic aberrations, colour fringing and their class leading eye relief (I wear glasses), and close focusing distance (under 5ft)
Basically same thing I summed up in the video. Well said. Thank you for adding the detail.
@@SamkoTradBow no worries at all my friend, very welcome... But still a good and informative video :)
@@SamkoTradBow and my apologies, at the time I wrote, my maths was out! 8x42 offer OVER a 5mm exit pupil! 😀
I like a 10 for looking downrange at a target. Setting thrm on my limbs to stabilize
Yep 10x has many great uses
Great explanation from the priorities. Thanx.
Glad yoy enjoyed
Great information will definitely checkout the 8x42 👍
FYI..always chase my mosquitoes down with a shot of good whiskey .
Hahaha. Great idea. If I did that I'd be passed out within 10 mins of being in my yard
Thanks a lot. Very helpful, informative video. Thanks for your time.
WElcome! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great review going with the 8x42 vortex instead of the 10x
Great choice and great optics! Yoy will love them
10x50 for me. There's not much difference in hand holding between 8x and 10x imo. I actually find the little extra weight a benefit for holding steady, it kind of quiets those micro shakes and tremors your hands and arms make, kind of like optical image stabilization in lenses and cameras. And, if it becomes a problem there's always a way to stabilize them.
Awesome! 10x50s would be very versatile and cover a lot of needs. Glad you like them and are all set.
@@SamkoTradBow Thank you! Great video btw, thanks for sharing. :)
Out standing review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Superbhelpful, man. Thank you. 🤘
glad you enjoyed it.
Nice review! The best so far.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
Very good info I did not know. Thank You!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks a lot. Very helpful, informative video. Do you think 8x42 is good enough to see arrows clear at the 70m target?
probably but for a situation like that a 10x might be better.
I just bought the Vortex crossfire HD 8x42 for all the reasons you just mentioned would have liked a 7x (squirrel hunting) if they made one but I love these binoculars and as an eyeglass wearer with the eyepieces all the way in they are perfect for me, I have also heard that the 8x42 configuration is so popular that its the only one that is made by all the binocular makers? Great video thanks!
Glad you love them! Vortex sure does make fantastic glass especially for the money!
@@SamkoTradBow yes sir they are and the VIP warrantees incredible, I see the limited part of your warrantee on the Swarovski expired 6 years ago and only the internal optics are covered still that's scary, if you stood on the side of a mountain and you dropped your gear bag 100' off of it and both those bino's were in the bag after about 3 weeks your diamondbacks would be your new good binoculars....wow.
@@Frank-uf2vn yeah but that would be my fault and not a warranty claim I'd make. It's great vortex does offer unlimited lifetime. But at the cost and precision build requirements of Swarovski I completely under stand why it's a 10 year warranty. If something is wrong after 10 years its self inflicted, neglect, or abuse. If I lost or broke my Swarovski today I'd probably buy another pair. But I would have no problem using my vortex for a couple years while I saved up the money for the Swarovski.
Thank you SO MUCH
Glad you enjoyed it
Id like to see comparison of Kowa Genesis Prominar 10.5x44 to your SLCs
No experience with the kowas
Salute to you Sir.
Thank you
Thanks for all your useful reviews. Which one would you suggest for birdwatching?
For birds I'd go 10 power. Will let you really see them well and you can use both hands to stabilize binos when bord watching
Enjoy ur content. Thank you
Thank you
Hi there, very good video and very well expained. Thanks
Thank you
Very informative. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it
This was a really entertaining video! Just getting into binoculars. I just bought Athlon Midas 8x42(any use and thoughts?. I’m hoping to be satisfied with them. Not a hunter
Never uses Athlon binos. Heard great things about them and im sure you are gonna love them.
Thanks for the video
Glad you enjoyed it
Higher power lets in less light for a given objective diameter. The downfall of a higher power magnification isn’t that it lets less light in its that it requires a bigger heavier binocular
With the same size objective lens a higher power will let less light thru.
Excellent video! Thanks!
Welcome!
Great video with great information! Thanks!
Thanks
Very informative video. Great job, thanks for putting it out there. I'm in the process of buying a new pair of binos. Just wanted to know if you ever looked at or read about Wingspan Optics Naturehawk Ultra binos? They use ED glass and also have a no questions asked Lifetime Warranty. Right now they run around $190.00 for 8 X 42 on Amazon. Sweet part is they have a 425 @1000 yd. FOV. I am comparing them to the Vortex Diamondback 8 X 42's, but I don't think Vortex uses ED in the Diamondback model.. Any opinions? Thanks for your time........ Craig PS:: I just read the Wingspan's are made in JAPAN, and the Vortex are made in CHINA. I would think better quality with JAPAN. Thanks.
I have not tried those! sound great but no experience with them.
Ok, thanks. @@SamkoTradBow
I love you channel.
Subscribed
Because of your channel my wife agrees with me to buy the Swarovski.
For Arizona-hunting, I was thinking about going with 15x56 SLC & ...
Torn between a
8x42 SLC 10x42 SLC, 10x56 SLC
In a chest rig For both rifle and bow, primarily bow.
All Tripods until it’s time to move.
Thoughts ?
Glad you are liking the content! If you are going 15x56 for glassing on a tripod I'd go 10x42 as your on body while you are moving bino. The 8x42 are great as well but I think in the open country the 10s would better serve you and are the same size and weight. But you can't go wrong with any combo!
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast thank you so much for the advice ! I am going to do just that. Thank you so much. Do you think the 10x56 would be to much or would the 10x42 provide better performance? I can handle the weight because of my size but am wondering what your experience would suggest? Would I gain any performance over the 10x42 vs 10x56? Swarovski.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast I forgot to mention I wear glasses as well full time.
@@dad3562 the binos work great with glasses. Theu have great eye relief and twist up eye cups.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast Would I gain that much more performance going with a 10x56 vs a 10x42?
Or is it just visual light performance or visualize a greater area?
Thank you again.
Around the neck-
great review, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
10 power for out west, 8 power for mid west.
That's exactly what I use them for.
Very helpful video
glad you enjoyed it
Do you consider the Leupold BX-5 Santiam HDs high end? Looks like they are leupolds highest end ?
Have never looked at those
thank you for the review~!
Welcome
Good, thx
Glad you enjoyed it
10x42 or 8x42 for neighbor watching and cross country running events?
thank you in advance
I'd go 10x as it's usually full dayl
@@SamkoTradBow yes indeed ; enjoy all your vids; good helpful information
I think a swarovski el 8,5x42 is the ONE you need👍
A little out of my price range. But probably the best binocular ever made
You need only one for one live🤔
Great info thank you
Very welcome
Are Athlon Midas G2 8x42 UHD Binocular better than Vortex Diamonback 8x42?
Never used those so don't know
I was trying to find out if Vortex crossfire and diamondback are BAK4 or just BAK7 ¿anyone knows that?.
I do not know that
I drink high octane coffee. Going with 8x 😂👍
@@GB0066 😂 good choice
Maybeso why 7 X 35 was the standard for so long .
Cause 7x35 was such an amazing magnification/lowlight capability. Unfortunately we live in a time where people think bigger is better and sales of the 7x30 and 7x35 went away as people wanted 8 and 10 power. I have 7x30 swarvoskis and love them! They are my favorite optic I own!
7 was also popular for boats and ships; good magnification but less sea-sickness while going up and down on waves.
Quite question mate: how does the optical performance of the Vortex brand compare to Swarovski? I want another pair of a lesser power, but don't necessarily want to fork out Swarovski money for them! 😀
Not gonna lie the vortex diamond back bonos are amazing for the money. Used them for 2 weeks testing them next to Swarovski in all kinds of conditions. Very impressed. To the point I would not buy a more expensive model. I'd buy Diamondbacks or go straight to Swarovski. Middle ground would be a waste of money in my opinion. The diamondback is close enough for 99% of what I use them for.
@@SamkoTradBow that's really good to know, thanks for that :)
Hi, i already have a 8x42 and 8x25
Is it useful to get an 3th pair of 10x32/30?
Or is it too close too 8x42 and 8x25?
In a 10 I would go for the 10x42. with 10 power I personally feel anything less than a 42 will suffer field of view and light gathering.
@@SamkoTradBow Thanks.
I already have an 8x42 NL , another 10x42 is maybe too close. But maybe. SFL.10x40 is good for me. Smaller and lighter
are these waterproof and also are they good with or without glasses
Yes and yes.
@@SamkoTradBow are these better than the avalon 10x42
and for birding?
All depends on the range you are planning to view them. 10power reaches farther but the 8 power has a wider field of view.
¿what about 10x50 in general terms?
Great binos. But big bulky and heavy for most deer hunting
i'm a tourist guide in a national park, i just need some binos to see wildlife. i bought the Carson 10x34, but I haven't tried them yet. I was thinking of buying the 10x50 since I wouldn't use them for full day hikes. ¿what do you think, ¿I should change them? (I wear glasses)@@SamkoTradBow
Whats your thoughts on Leopold?
They make great stuff.
were is the best place to buy the
My link in the video description
Watch out there's a bear right behind you (and it seems no to care about difference in 8x or 10x magnification)
😂😂
Im from new zealand and i want to buy binos, is the tristar 10x42 good for hunting?
I have zero experience with those. But 10 power is good for more open areas and does often require 2 hands to stabilize . 8 power is a great all round hunting power that works well in many situations and is easy ro stabilize with one hand.
@@SamkoTradBow ok ty
Are the Bushnell 10x42 bone collectors a good all-round Bino?
Yes those are very good binos.
@@SamkoTradBow I'm from the Antipodes and I'm just buying my first pair. The price difference between 8 vs 10 is only AUS$20 so I was confused. I'm not really into hunting yet, I'm looking for something for coasting fishing ,camping ) . I'm still a bit confused I'll admit.I'll have to watch the video again. Cheers.
@@magoo4452 if you have not Voight them yet I would get the 8 power. They are more versatile and easier to hand hold steady and work better in low light
You remind me of airwingmarine
I wish I would’ve seen your video sooner. I just got the 10x42 Diamondback HD. Its a bit too shaky sometimes. It’s basically the only decent glass I have (the others I have are $40 Walmart types).
10s a great for alot of things but as you are finding tough to hold steady at times.you can probably return/exchange them. If you keep them use 2 hands and your upper part of your eye socket bones to stabilize them.
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better 10-30X50 is much better clear view
Any thoughts on the vortex viper hd?
buddy has them and they are fantastic
Dont forget their warrenty
Great point I forgot to mention
Hy, what do you think about 8.5x50? Thank you!
Great binos. Just very big and heavy to carry.
@@SamkoTradBow yeah, they are heavy and what's worst.. A narrow field of view. Just returned them and ordered a delta forest ii 8x42 version! Hope will be good now!
THANKS GREAT REVIEW 👍
Any thoughts on 8x24 for whitetails is n the Wood's?
Would work good but would suffer in lower light conditions. Id like to see 30mm objective lens as a minimum for 8 power in dust and dawn. But the 8x24 will work great 90% of the day.
@@SamkoTradBow thank you, I have a pair of Brunton eterna's, just curious if I should upgrade
@@rushrider800 if they work great then use them if you need more out of binos then upgrade.
@@SamkoTradBow i want to buy binoculars with limit magnification to hold with hands.the best binoculars and the best company????
Was having this dilemma before i got my first bino. I can say i am one of the 10% of the viewer who bought 10x42 bino.
Originally wanted get nikon a211 porro bino but after tested this and Monarch 5 i decided to stretch my budget to Monarch as definitely perform much better. Decided to stick to 10*42 as my middle of ground/one size fit all bino since I won't be buying additional bino for a foreseeable future.
Watching RUclips video on bino does not help where i start to look for various other model for specific usage like astro or low light usage 🤣
Your mileage may varies for sure 👍
Also would love to try vortex bino but too bad they are not available here while Nikon is much more common here (bino are not common item in this part of the world)
Those monarchs have been around 20 years now and updated a along the way. They are and always have been excellent binos by a great company! Glad to hear you are happy with them.
@@SamkoTradBow i managed to try Nikon EDG ii at local dealer today. Good stuff but at a super high price for sure. Its a pity they did not put sales (still selling at full retail 🤣) on this model as it was discontinued.
@@hamtairo your monarchs will do everything you need and very well.
@@SamkoTradBow yup it is. Easily cover 99% of my need for sure.
Your video had the best explanation for those who are new to this. 👍 Especially the part with regards on testing the bino in person before pulling the trigger, that is definitely the best advise for newbie.
@@hamtairo glad you liked the video!
So dumb question if something is 200 feet away a 10 power will make it appear 1/10th the distance away which would be 20 feet?
No such thing as a dumb question. I believe the binocular power is multiplying the average sight distance of the human eye. So if you could see something at a distance. Every power of magnification brings it that many times closer than you can see with you naked eye.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast optics are so fascinating. I’m just starting to learn about real images, virtual images, focal points etc. wonder what a.i. Could come up with if it was asked to design the best lens system with no holds barred.
Wth...2500 binoculars! 😳
Some now are 6k pluss! Crazy
Why not just buy a 9x? Best of both worlds? Duh! ...I’m joking.
Wonder why nobody ever made a 9. Honestly would be a perfect middle for quite a few hunters
Swaro el 8,5x42 🤔
how about neighbor watching on 1 acre lots, seriously?
Only swaroski the another brand is trahs
I have both and love both
Why? Swarowski is a good brand but the cost for binocuars has to justify the image quality and purpose. What is Swarowski purpose? Bushnell H20 extreme and Vortex diamonback hd are exellent image quality. I do not see how better it can be.
The easiest way to explain 10 power or 8 power is just call them what they actually are, that power thing is fiction. Just say it is 10x magnification, so easy.
That is very true and you are spot on.