Before you buy, Try to return it. I bought a chuwi mini computer, it bricked within 4 months of use. Chuwi did not offer any help. Chuwi wrote "Hello, then you can directly see Amazon's customer service to see if it can be replaced, you can also do it without contacting me" Chuwi washed their hands and did not want to be bothered. Know this before you buy....
On the Larkbox X N100 they also did some stupid stuff. The ram has been advertised as 4800MIT but now has been locked to 4000MIT via the bios. The GPU clock was bugged at 399MHz instead of 750Mhz max clock. TDP was also set lower than advertised. All in all first and last Chuwi product for me. These are so crippled by design and the service is non existent.
I bought an Adloko GE41 (rebranded Beelink) back in 2019 for $189 and it's been updated to Windows 11. It's a fanless Gemini Lake N4100 cpu that supports 4K and works great connected to my TV. I use a wireless keyboard with a built-in track pad. I added an SSD.
I love the tiny office PCs. I picked up two Lenovos last year. I kind of want to pick up a bunch more. They're almost addictive. The M92p might be the best value out there right now. I last saw the i3 version coming in at around $45. Yes, the i5 version will go farther for emulation, but those seem to be closer to $70. While I like external power supplies, it's annoying looking for them as there are counterfeits out there, the official ones are pricey, and there's lots of no-name stuff out there. Of course, I had two bad HP OEM chargers, so quality is all over the place in general. That's why the last time I went to feed my addiction, I opted for a larger small form factor(SFF) Lenovo instead of a tiny. If people don't need or want one of these really small mini PCs, stepping up to a SFF is not a bad way to go. You can get some good value for the money that way as well with more powerful CPU, and they're not especially big, being a little bigger than a modern Fios box. Yes, they are higher TDP so that's worth looking at. I do love the tiny computers, but it's great to have options.
Awesome! Too long we have waited for ETA Prime to do a "Top 5". Yes - By God, Man - Yes, please do more of these comparisons! You're one of only a few YT channels that are helpful.
Because of you I got the Lenovo m92p last week. One for my 13 year old son, as a gaming pc and homework and youtube and one for myself as an emulation station. Works wonderful got them for €90 a piece, super cheap and great power.
I bought one of those EliteDesk 705 G4. It's a miniature beast, I install SteamOS 3.0 onto it and I've had no issues with it so far. 1 TB SSD with a HDD caddy installed.
@@leonardodavinci7425 Depends, modern triple A? maybe? the newest game I own is Doom Eternal and it ran fine. But it's ran everything I've thrown at it
Hi. Last weekend, I got a MINISFORUM Windows 11 Pro Elitemini HM90 Mini PC with an AMD Ryzen 9 4900H CPU, 16 GB of DDR4 and a 512 GB SSD. I've been breaking it in for the past week. This is very much a new experience for me as I've built nearly all my other PCs before this one. That said, this is easily the most powerful PC I've owned, despite it using a mobile CPU. This puppy really rocks! The week before, I had got and HP EliteDesk with an Intel I5 CPU and 8 GB of RAM, and it was better than okay, but I thought I'd do some music creation in the coming year and wanted something with more muscle. (You never know what you'll need until you start in with plugins inside your digital audio workstation software!) This guy fits the bill. I won't really know how good it is until I install Linux on the computer, but it's crushing Windows 11 so far. I really like the power of this PC, but I could really wish for more connectivity, as in more USB ports. It has the seemingly standard number for the form factor, but I bit the bullet and added a 10-port USB hub, which will now handle the heavy lifting. The other thing I don't like about this PC is that it has no indicator for storage activity. Whereas my older PCs and even my little HP puterbrick all had at least a blinking LED to indicate activity in the SDD or HDD, this thing has nothing! You have to take it on faith that the drive is working. Suckage, but I'll manage. So far, so good ... and it is good!
Minisforum 5900HX is really good. I bought two barebones ones. Got some 2TB Nvme SSD for main OS drive, two 2TB SATA SSD for data storage, and 32GB 3200Mhz RAM on both mini PCs. One is for me as a daily driver and the other one for my mom to replace her old PC. Both are running Manjaro Linux and it's awesome! Goodbye Windows! 😛
Over the past couple years I have bought a number of Lenovo M92P with i5 and have had excellent results with them. I just keep adding to my collection. One downside I have found is that for everyday use, like web browsing, the usual 4GB memory is not enough. Need at least 8GB; the machine supports up to 16GB. I just added an 8GB stick to one with 4GB original and it works much faster.
Purchased the aerofara 2 pro a few months ago and have been very impressed (your review was very helpful with this purchase). It's great for email, web browsing, visual studio and some light gaming.
Greetings from México, love your videos! Would love to see more of these mini PC modded or tweaked to run all sort of emulation/pc gaming/productivity or even as a Steam PC
I would love to see a version of this video focusing a high performace mini PC's. I'm especially interested in fan noise when casually web browsing, 4k streaming and under heavy loads
If you want a keyboard recommendation I just bought a wireless bluetooth keyboard on Amazon from a japanese company called Sanwa (typing on it now). It's awesome so far, you can connect up to 3 devices on it and it has a built in trackpad. I almost got a foldable keyboard (most come with a trackpad but I also saw one with a numpad instead as well) for smaller form factor but the button options on this one sold me.
I bought a Beelink SER3 6-8 months ago. I upgraded it right away from 8GB to 16GB RAM, but it is otherwise stock. I have been using it as my daily driver, with some gaming (older titles). It runs great, no complaints! I have kicked myself periodically for not getting the SER4 instead, but honestly, for what I need, the SER3 fits the bill quite nicely. Great list!!
I currently have the Beelink SER3 with an AMD Ryzen 3 3200U. While it originally came with 8GB DDR4 single-channel RAM and a 256GB NVME SSD, I upgraded the RAM to 16GB dual-channel and the NVME SSD to 1TB, the latter which is an extra I had. I also installed an extra 1TB 2.5” SATA SSD for secondary storage space. I still plan to further upgrade the RAM to a maximum of 32GB dual-channel.
A 3200u isn't going to need 32gb gddr4 memory. Unless you have a very niche use you can just sell it for about 100 to 130$ and get one of the Aya Neo airs or Ayn lokis. They will perform better and are smaller. Or even a pc if you want.
@@shlokshah5379 I’ve recently put my Beelink SER3 3200U Mini PC up for sale on eBay and ordered the newer Beelink SER4 Mini PC with the more powerful AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, 16GB DDR4-3200 RAM, and a 500GB NVME SSD. I bought the latter Mini PC for between $400 and $450. Just like with the former, I plan to upgrade the RAM at a later date. Before I’ve put my older Mini PC up for sale, I’ve made sure to downgrade the RAM and SSD back to 8GB and 256GB, respectively. I’ve also made sure to reinstall Windows 11 on the SSD.
It would be really interesting but they should be mainly focused on everyd use, i don't buy a mini PC because I want to game on it, maybe with 2x 4k monitors connected, heavy PDF files and web browsing with 4k streaming
Oddly enough, Pi 4 hitting $200 for 8gb model, these are nice alternative. I have used the HP G3 version for my father's window 10 machine but it died after 2 year, however, the replacement motherboard was warrantied by HP and it was weird getting it serviced as the HP technician says the motherboard needed to be "branded" with a USB stick. Having worked in IT for over 30 years, I never heard of "branding" but I suppose they can flash the motherboard down to their specification after customer service. The HP G3 unit does have an optional VESA mount kit that you can have it mounted on the back of monitor, it allows for quick connect and disconnect to the monitor. For the DELL, I had owned Optiplex 755 USFF units which was used as a replacement for some restaurant POS systems. The DELL came with its own USFF stand for mounting DELL monitor and was very cheap to substitute as an all-in-one unit with ability to customize.
Thanks to your advice I have a Minisfourm PC. Not the one with the GPU dock (I got mine before it came out) but a model you recommended before that. I LOVE it. It's not too big, performs well on most stuff I throw at it, and for what I paid isn't a bad deal at all! I haven't really dabbled in emulation on it yet but I plan to!
after buying a test mini pc thats as big as 8x8 inches. I cant go back to laptops or my huge rig anymore. Having something so cheap to connect anywhere and not caring if you get mugged for it due to easily buying another at close to nothing is such a peace of mind. YOu can take it as you travel in hotels with an hdmi cable and bam ur home pc at the palm of your hand is truely a new generation experience.
Thanks to you I bought the minisforum B550 I love it!!! I like the smaller size, gpu and the ports!! I'm gonna use it as it is until I save enough for another ssd and a graphics card :D :D
Below one of your last videos I asked for a comparison or an overview ... and now you are delivering it so fast! Great! Thanks! And since it seems to be a special day in the US: Happy Father's Day to you! In Germany it was like 2 months ago ... but in these times there cant be enough father's days. p.s. My favorit is the HP EliteDesk G4. i like the design most. And I do think that the more expensive Mini PCs are not as interesting, because when youre investing much money maybe you want "much" PC. So a used Mini PC for less than 200 bucks is the way to go for me ... just to not have to power up the much beefier gaming PC for the simple tasks.
love how you keep bringing up emulation along the way. these things look like beastly emulators. would make great fightcade machines for online, and rpcs3 works online too
Thanks for the review . One thing that would have been a little helpful would have been to include the type of WiFi connection each mini PC supports, as there are some older models listed here, and people usually like it when their PC makes use of their fast internet . Just something to think about . Thanks again for the review .
I would really be interested in a ranking video about completely silent MiniPCs and there especially in IO performance as I'm looking for a silent system for fileserving and backups. Despite this, really great video. And like always... thanks for making :D
Don't think there is any silent miniPC on the market right now. Due to the small case design with limited space, when the system is pushing its limit the small internal fan will definitely ramp up in speed and noise. if your top priority is silent fan, your best bet is a SFF case allowing for bigger internal fan and hence greatly reduced fan noise.
Mac mini m1 is the only “silent” one I know of. Only issue would be making sure what you need to run functions in emulation. Otherwise they can be gotten fairly cheap.
I bought a Dell 7040 micro pc with a 7th gen i7 on CL for $100. I had no reason to buy it other than always wanting to check out a micro pc. I upgraded the ram to 16GB ($50) and a 500GB SSD ($50). It runs an hdmi and a DP Monitor at 75mhz. I added a third monitor with a Dell usb c docking station for $120 for a total of $320. It kills for work from home and indie plus older AAA. No complaints 🙂
Did you do one of these for 2023? Couldn't find it. Not that you aren't busy, but maybe do a video of the best mini PC based on price all time. Maybe upgrade some of the cheaper options and compare their performance too.
Your work has been invaluable over the years. Im building an arcade from scratch and I want to emulate everything. Would any of these rigs do that? If not what would you suggest and what platform? I have a license for BigBox, love that front end so I'm thinking of building with that as my foundation.
@@jeremy__hopkins I have been building my own for years so totally comfortable with a project. I'm not trying to be frugal but throwing money away is undesirable too. I wanted to know if AVX512 was a real consideration first. If not a six core Ryzen 5600 a a midrange GPU as in RTX3070 or RX6700xt with fast ram and M.2 boot drive and 12TB storage was my thought. I want to emulate all that is possible and run it well with the hardware, no compromise. My thinking is a 12 core and RTX3090TI was definite overkill. I will be building the arcade myself with a 4k 43" Samsung monitor with a mid tower case, I'm adding an AIO to cool the CPU I'm prepared to cool the GPU if that yields better performance to run emulation with windows 10 and Big Box front end.
If budget is of no concern just get a SFF PC with 12th gen Intel i9 and RTX3080Ti for your custom arcade setup. No point looking at the miniPCs as they'll all be underpowered compared to above.
@@acejon2162 an SFF PC would need a custom loop to keep a 3090 cool and therefore vastly impractical. Besides a 3.5 slot 3090 would have to have the factory cooler removed in order to fit in a true SFF case. Pained with a 12900k/KS and a blinking arcade. I may have to put it on its own circuit because I'll be blowing fuses. It's going into a mid tower and sitting next to a Klipsch subwoofer. No stock CPU cooler but an AIO for the CPU. I decided on doing z690 paired with Intel 12600/12700 CPU running windows 10 with 32GB DDR4 RAM. A 1TB windows drive and 12TB storage with a custom build of big box.
The Beelink now has a Ryzen-5 5600H (6core ,12 threads) cpu with Vega-7 graphics for $330 US on amazon. 16gb DDR4, 512 SSD wifi-6 lots of ports. Best bang for the buck.
Unfortunately, the M6 with 16GB RAM doesn't run in dual channel. I have one and it still shows single channel. Bought from the link you posted in your original M6 review video.
How would each one of these PC's perform as a parsec/steam remote play machine? I would love to buy a mini pc like those to stream games from my gaming desktop (both wired to ethernet), but I wonder if they would be any better than my raspberry pi 3B+
@ETA PRIME the Dell Optiplex 3050 caught my eye. I'm mostly interested in emulation up till PS2 (mostly Nintendo 64 tho) I recently bought an emulation console (Super Console X Pro) and I'm very disappointed by it's poor performance, Cruisin USA at half speed and 5FPS is awful. I'm not extremely tech savvy, but would the 3050 easily connect to my living room TV using an HDMI cable and then just download an emulator and ROMs online?
I suspect that many others, as well as myself, found this very helpful. Possibly loswer power use optimization may be forced upon many of us nowadays. Thank You.
That AMD minis forum is my dream mini pc! Just really out of my budget, unfortunately. But having that would defo be a long term rig with the upgrade options. 💯🔥
I think the best value is anything with the N5105 processor. I do a nice Batocera build for Umbrella Arcades that uses it, and I don’t think the current state of emulation on Batocera really justifies anything beefier.
Cheers ETA. I know you've always included arcade/console emulation in your reviews but seeing as these mini PCs are growing in power, would you consider including pinball emulation e.g. VPX and FuturePinball?
I've been a fan of Intel NUCs and mini PCs in general for a while now, and had a Hades Canyon that I eventually gave to a family member. My current SFF PC is a Mac Studio :P
Excellent. I'm looking for something to power a head unit in my car and these seem far superior to what I could get as far as pre-built Android head units.
Beelinks are the best mini PCs for the price. I use it for work, mainly for RPA and automation, more than capable and smooth for any automation you through at it. Highly recommend if you're building on premise machines for RPA
Happy Father’s Day to all the awesome dad’s!
Same to you man !
Many thanks!!! Happy Father's Day to you too!
Thanks! Same to you. It's been great so far.
Father's Day in Germany was Thursday, 26 May 😀 but thank's
Happy Father’s Day
This is exactly what I needed. Thanks, ETA. And, yes, I would love a video on the higher end ones.
Before you buy, Try to return it. I bought a chuwi mini computer, it bricked within 4 months of use. Chuwi did not offer any help. Chuwi wrote "Hello, then you can directly see Amazon's customer service to see if it can be replaced, you can also do it without contacting me" Chuwi washed their hands and did not want to be bothered. Know this before you buy....
On the Larkbox X N100 they also did some stupid stuff. The ram has been advertised as 4800MIT but now has been locked to 4000MIT via the bios. The GPU clock was bugged at 399MHz instead of 750Mhz max clock. TDP was also set lower than advertised. All in all first and last Chuwi product for me. These are so crippled by design and the service is non existent.
I bought an Adloko GE41 (rebranded Beelink) back in 2019 for $189 and it's been updated to Windows 11. It's a fanless Gemini Lake N4100 cpu that supports 4K and works great connected to my TV. I use a wireless keyboard with a built-in track pad. I added an SSD.
love mini PCs. would love to see more mini PCs that instead of rest flat, they rest vertically.
Looking to get on for simple browsing only use my set up but want to get one so it has multiple forms of use l
I love the tiny office PCs. I picked up two Lenovos last year. I kind of want to pick up a bunch more. They're almost addictive. The M92p might be the best value out there right now. I last saw the i3 version coming in at around $45. Yes, the i5 version will go farther for emulation, but those seem to be closer to $70. While I like external power supplies, it's annoying looking for them as there are counterfeits out there, the official ones are pricey, and there's lots of no-name stuff out there. Of course, I had two bad HP OEM chargers, so quality is all over the place in general. That's why the last time I went to feed my addiction, I opted for a larger small form factor(SFF) Lenovo instead of a tiny. If people don't need or want one of these really small mini PCs, stepping up to a SFF is not a bad way to go. You can get some good value for the money that way as well with more powerful CPU, and they're not especially big, being a little bigger than a modern Fios box. Yes, they are higher TDP so that's worth looking at. I do love the tiny computers, but it's great to have options.
That price is the used one? the cheapest price of the M92p I can find is about $150 for a used one
Awesome! Too long we have waited for ETA Prime to do a "Top 5".
Yes - By God, Man - Yes, please do more of these comparisons!
You're one of only a few YT channels that are helpful.
Because of you I got the Lenovo m92p last week. One for my 13 year old son, as a gaming pc and homework and youtube and one for myself as an emulation station. Works wonderful got them for €90 a piece, super cheap and great power.
I bought one of those EliteDesk 705 G4. It's a miniature beast, I install SteamOS 3.0 onto it and I've had no issues with it so far. 1 TB SSD with a HDD caddy installed.
Can you play AAA games on it?
yeah can you?
@@leonardodavinci7425 Depends, modern triple A? maybe? the newest game I own is Doom Eternal and it ran fine. But it's ran everything I've thrown at it
Do you think you can play Roblox on it with no upgrades?
Hi. Last weekend, I got a MINISFORUM Windows 11 Pro Elitemini HM90 Mini PC with an AMD Ryzen 9 4900H CPU, 16 GB of DDR4 and a 512 GB SSD. I've been breaking it in for the past week. This is very much a new experience for me as I've built nearly all my other PCs before this one. That said, this is easily the most powerful PC I've owned, despite it using a mobile CPU.
This puppy really rocks! The week before, I had got and HP EliteDesk with an Intel I5 CPU and 8 GB of RAM, and it was better than okay, but I thought I'd do some music creation in the coming year and wanted something with more muscle. (You never know what you'll need until you start in with plugins inside your digital audio workstation software!) This guy fits the bill. I won't really know how good it is until I install Linux on the computer, but it's crushing Windows 11 so far.
I really like the power of this PC, but I could really wish for more connectivity, as in more USB ports. It has the seemingly standard number for the form factor, but I bit the bullet and added a 10-port USB hub, which will now handle the heavy lifting. The other thing I don't like about this PC is that it has no indicator for storage activity. Whereas my older PCs and even my little HP puterbrick all had at least a blinking LED to indicate activity in the SDD or HDD, this thing has nothing! You have to take it on faith that the drive is working. Suckage, but I'll manage. So far, so good ... and it is good!
Minisforum 5900HX is really good. I bought two barebones ones. Got some 2TB Nvme SSD for main OS drive, two 2TB SATA SSD for data storage, and 32GB 3200Mhz RAM on both mini PCs. One is for me as a daily driver and the other one for my mom to replace her old PC. Both are running Manjaro Linux and it's awesome! Goodbye Windows! 😛
Yes, a video in the $500-$999 range would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Over the past couple years I have bought a number of Lenovo M92P with i5 and have had excellent results with them. I just keep adding to my collection. One downside I have found is that for everyday use, like web browsing, the usual 4GB memory is not enough. Need at least 8GB; the machine supports up to 16GB. I just added an 8GB stick to one with 4GB original and it works much faster.
Purchased the aerofara 2 pro a few months ago and have been very impressed (your review was very helpful with this purchase). It's great for email, web browsing, visual studio and some light gaming.
I recently got one of the slightly older dell office ones, installed batocera and use it primarily for dos gaming, which works very well tbh
@@Daniel15au agreed, but the price difference and ease of use outweighed my dedication to purity 🤣
Also sometimes it's fun to get things to do stuff they aren't really intended to do. I basically made a consolized dos machine.
Greetings from México, love your videos! Would love to see more of these mini PC modded or tweaked to run all sort of emulation/pc gaming/productivity or even as a Steam PC
I would love to see a version of this video focusing a high performace mini PC's. I'm especially interested in fan noise when casually web browsing, 4k streaming and under heavy loads
Finally!! This video has been long awaited for. Keep up the great work!
I was in the market for a laptop workhorse, you just upended that. Excellent video, thanks for sharing.
Would love to see a peripherals top 10:
• Wireless mini keyboards
• Controllers
• Portable Screens 🙏
If you want a keyboard recommendation I just bought a wireless bluetooth keyboard on Amazon from a japanese company called Sanwa (typing on it now). It's awesome so far, you can connect up to 3 devices on it and it has a built in trackpad. I almost got a foldable keyboard (most come with a trackpad but I also saw one with a numpad instead as well) for smaller form factor but the button options on this one sold me.
@@kikij_7995 thank you,will check this out👍
I bought a Beelink SER3 6-8 months ago. I upgraded it right away from 8GB to 16GB RAM, but it is otherwise stock. I have been using it as my daily driver, with some gaming (older titles). It runs great, no complaints! I have kicked myself periodically for not getting the SER4 instead, but honestly, for what I need, the SER3 fits the bill quite nicely. Great list!!
what are you using it for aside from older title gaming, if you don't mind me asking?
@@fitrianhidayat porn I guess...but that's just me thinking aloud.
@@motionoftheocean7524 💀
I currently have the Beelink SER3 with an AMD Ryzen 3 3200U. While it originally came with 8GB DDR4 single-channel RAM and a 256GB NVME SSD, I upgraded the RAM to 16GB dual-channel and the NVME SSD to 1TB, the latter which is an extra I had. I also installed an extra 1TB 2.5” SATA SSD for secondary storage space. I still plan to further upgrade the RAM to a maximum of 32GB dual-channel.
Dude save money and buy a new one
A 3200u isn't going to need 32gb gddr4 memory. Unless you have a very niche use you can just sell it for about 100 to 130$ and get one of the Aya Neo airs or Ayn lokis. They will perform better and are smaller. Or even a pc if you want.
@@shlokshah5379 I’ve recently put my Beelink SER3 3200U Mini PC up for sale on eBay and ordered the newer Beelink SER4 Mini PC with the more powerful AMD Ryzen 7 4800U, 16GB DDR4-3200 RAM, and a 500GB NVME SSD. I bought the latter Mini PC for between $400 and $450. Just like with the former, I plan to upgrade the RAM at a later date.
Before I’ve put my older Mini PC up for sale, I’ve made sure to downgrade the RAM and SSD back to 8GB and 256GB, respectively. I’ve also made sure to reinstall Windows 11 on the SSD.
I would love to see how the top 5 best mini PC's without a budget compare to each other 😁
Yes! Basically $500 to $1000 miniPCs.
It would be really interesting but they should be mainly focused on everyd use, i don't buy a mini PC because I want to game on it, maybe with 2x 4k monitors connected, heavy PDF files and web browsing with 4k streaming
@@degruggir1483 Same here
We *DEFINITELY* want a $500-$2000 version of this!
Me too
I want
Oddly enough, Pi 4 hitting $200 for 8gb model, these are nice alternative. I have used the HP G3 version for my father's window 10 machine but it died after 2 year, however, the replacement motherboard was warrantied by HP and it was weird getting it serviced as the HP technician says the motherboard needed to be "branded" with a USB stick. Having worked in IT for over 30 years, I never heard of "branding" but I suppose they can flash the motherboard down to their specification after customer service. The HP G3 unit does have an optional VESA mount kit that you can have it mounted on the back of monitor, it allows for quick connect and disconnect to the monitor. For the DELL, I had owned Optiplex 755 USFF units which was used as a replacement for some restaurant POS systems. The DELL came with its own USFF stand for mounting DELL monitor and was very cheap to substitute as an all-in-one unit with ability to customize.
Thanks to your advice I have a Minisfourm PC. Not the one with the GPU dock (I got mine before it came out) but a model you recommended before that. I LOVE it. It's not too big, performs well on most stuff I throw at it, and for what I paid isn't a bad deal at all! I haven't really dabbled in emulation on it yet but I plan to!
after buying a test mini pc thats as big as 8x8 inches. I cant go back to laptops or my huge rig anymore. Having something so cheap to connect anywhere and not caring if you get mugged for it due to easily buying another at close to nothing is such a peace of mind. YOu can take it as you travel in hotels with an hdmi cable and bam ur home pc at the palm of your hand is truely a new generation experience.
The video folks have been asking for, thank you!!
Love your Mini PC reviews. I am trying to get my children into computers more. My youngest and I are going to build a PC this year together.
Amazing, just what I asked you like 4 days ago. You have no idea how much I appreciate this.
Thanks to you I bought the minisforum B550 I love it!!! I like the smaller size, gpu and the ports!! I'm gonna use it as it is until I save enough for another ssd and a graphics card :D :D
Which of these mini PCs is okay for music production please?
Below one of your last videos I asked for a comparison or an overview ... and now you are delivering it so fast! Great!
Thanks!
And since it seems to be a special day in the US: Happy Father's Day to you!
In Germany it was like 2 months ago ... but in these times there cant be enough father's days.
p.s. My favorit is the HP EliteDesk G4. i like the design most.
And I do think that the more expensive Mini PCs are not as interesting, because when youre investing much money maybe you want "much" PC. So a used Mini PC for less than 200 bucks is the way to go for me ... just to not have to power up the much beefier gaming PC for the simple tasks.
love how you keep bringing up emulation along the way. these things look like beastly emulators. would make great fightcade machines for online, and rpcs3 works online too
These round-ups are very helpful re: comparisons. Thank you!
Definitely recommend the Optiplex 3060 over the 3050, you get 8th i5 with 6 cores and it's usually very cheap too
Thanks for the review .
One thing that would have been a little helpful would have been to include the type of WiFi connection each mini PC supports, as there are some older models listed here, and people usually like it when their PC makes use of their fast internet .
Just something to think about . Thanks again for the review .
Yes Please. Continue with mini PCs, old (and refurbished) and new keeping the price as main focal point.
I would really be interested in a ranking video about completely silent MiniPCs and there especially in IO performance as I'm looking for a silent system for fileserving and backups. Despite this, really great video. And like always... thanks for making :D
Don't think there is any silent miniPC on the market right now. Due to the small case design with limited space, when the system is pushing its limit the small internal fan will definitely ramp up in speed and noise.
if your top priority is silent fan, your best bet is a SFF case allowing for bigger internal fan and hence greatly reduced fan noise.
Mac mini m1 is the only “silent” one I know of. Only issue would be making sure what you need to run functions in emulation. Otherwise they can be gotten fairly cheap.
Beelink SER 4 is 800€ (950$) in Germany. The Minisforum with 4700G is here 900€. Also above 1000$ here. PCs here became expesnsive as hell.
Nice to see the prices included. Great video.
I bought a Dell 7040 micro pc with a 7th gen i7 on CL for $100. I had no reason to buy it other than always wanting to check out a micro pc. I upgraded the ram to 16GB ($50) and a 500GB SSD ($50). It runs an hdmi and a DP Monitor at 75mhz. I added a third monitor with a Dell usb c docking station for $120 for a total of $320. It kills for work from home and indie plus older AAA. No complaints 🙂
Did you do one of these for 2023? Couldn't find it. Not that you aren't busy, but maybe do a video of the best mini PC based on price all time. Maybe upgrade some of the cheaper options and compare their performance too.
I don’t know why these aren’t popular I love how small they are. I just want something that can handle some games and possibly video editing
YES make the video of there more expensive ones. So I can see what I can/should get for just a little more money
Your work has been invaluable over the years. Im building an arcade from scratch and I want to emulate everything. Would any of these rigs do that? If not what would you suggest and what platform? I have a license for BigBox, love that front end so I'm thinking of building with that as my foundation.
@@jeremy__hopkins I have been building my own for years so totally comfortable with a project. I'm not trying to be frugal but throwing money away is undesirable too. I wanted to know if AVX512 was a real consideration first. If not a six core Ryzen 5600 a a midrange GPU as in RTX3070 or RX6700xt with fast ram and M.2 boot drive and 12TB storage was my thought. I want to emulate all that is possible and run it well with the hardware, no compromise. My thinking is a 12 core and RTX3090TI was definite overkill. I will be building the arcade myself with a 4k 43" Samsung monitor with a mid tower case, I'm adding an AIO to cool the CPU I'm prepared to cool the GPU if that yields better performance to run emulation with windows 10 and Big Box front end.
If budget is of no concern just get a SFF PC with 12th gen Intel i9 and RTX3080Ti for your custom arcade setup.
No point looking at the miniPCs as they'll all be underpowered compared to above.
@@acejon2162 an SFF PC would need a custom loop to keep a 3090 cool and therefore vastly impractical. Besides a 3.5 slot 3090 would have to have the factory cooler removed in order to fit in a true SFF case. Pained with a 12900k/KS and a blinking arcade. I may have to put it on its own circuit because I'll be blowing fuses. It's going into a mid tower and sitting next to a Klipsch subwoofer. No stock CPU cooler but an AIO for the CPU. I decided on doing z690 paired with Intel 12600/12700 CPU running windows 10 with 32GB DDR4 RAM. A 1TB windows drive and 12TB storage with a custom build of big box.
Why would retro play go for modern best. It is far above what is required. Older systems will do it where as this will play the best going forward
The Beelink now has a Ryzen-5 5600H (6core ,12 threads) cpu with Vega-7 graphics for $330 US on amazon. 16gb DDR4, 512 SSD wifi-6 lots of ports.
Best bang for the buck.
Unfortunately, the M6 with 16GB RAM doesn't run in dual channel. I have one and it still shows single channel. Bought from the link you posted in your original M6 review video.
For me the larkbox X rates at the top for me for price and performance … Once I upgraded the ram to 32gb game changer.. $349 no brainer
Yes please a higher end list would be very helpful. Thanks for this video. I’m looking into the #1 you mentioned.
I love your enthusiasm ETA! Keep up the good work 😃
Quite a variety! Awesome episode. Thank you! 👍
The last two were awesome.
Especially the last one,
5700G.
How would each one of these PC's perform as a parsec/steam remote play machine? I would love to buy a mini pc like those to stream games from my gaming desktop (both wired to ethernet), but I wonder if they would be any better than my raspberry pi 3B+
Yeah I wish I could get my hands on these with such low prices. Everything here costs 250€ - 1000€, it is just crazy. Cheers from Finland.
Another good one is the hp elite desk I have a g2 mini. Has a i7 6700 in it with 32gb ram, 1tb ssd. Runs flawlessly
@ETA PRIME the Dell Optiplex 3050 caught my eye. I'm mostly interested in emulation up till PS2 (mostly Nintendo 64 tho)
I recently bought an emulation console (Super Console X Pro) and I'm very disappointed by it's poor performance, Cruisin USA at half speed and 5FPS is awful.
I'm not extremely tech savvy, but would the 3050 easily connect to my living room TV using an HDMI cable and then just download an emulator and ROMs online?
Thanks these are the video's we love to watch, the most really helpful finding the right mini PC
Super helpful video. Glad that you made this round-up video
I've been looking at these. Thank you for this video. It's nice to see some informed opinions
i just got an Inovato Quadra - arrived this morning. I've heard next to nothing about this little SBC so I am anxious to see how it goes
Picked up the fully specked M6 and have been using it with my Nexdock. Great combination.
What if you don't play games, but do normal office tasks, web based graphic design and music production? Think they are good for that.
I suspect that many others, as well as myself, found this very helpful. Possibly loswer power use optimization may be forced upon many of us nowadays. Thank You.
We use those same Dells at work, solid performers. I am waiting for the next big jump on integrated graphics.
Thanks, very helpful. Nice pricing and better packaging than the RPi system I currently use, so you gave me some fresh ideas.
That AMD minis forum is my dream mini pc! Just really out of my budget, unfortunately. But having that would defo be a long term rig with the upgrade options. 💯🔥
Another great video BTW🤖
Thanks for the video Prime! 💜
Im not very good with pcs but which is the best at gaming? Like apex or fortnite or somrthing similar
really love your content mate, you are onw of the best youtuber hope you go further and gain more followers 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Awesome video. Thank you ETA.
Love to see your version of a godly tier of SFF pc
Thanks again for your very professional vids. kudos👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the info.. I will like to know what is the most powerful mini pc for gaming.
Best video showing a range of products from a trusted source. It would be cool if you could do this every 6 months or yearly.
Definitely interested in seeing more expensive mini PCs for emulation!
You should do this video with price/performance in mind. Like how much $ per each FPS using the exact same benchmark.
Second hand mini PCs start at 300$ in Sweden, it's hilarious
I'm stunned by the MinisForum mini PC that comes with an eGPU dock. No Thunderbolt loss and it has a desktop CPU.
This is really something else.
I think the best value is anything with the N5105 processor. I do a nice Batocera build for Umbrella Arcades that uses it, and I don’t think the current state of emulation on Batocera really justifies anything beefier.
Cheers ETA. I know you've always included arcade/console emulation in your reviews but seeing as these mini PCs are growing in power, would you consider including pinball emulation e.g. VPX and FuturePinball?
3d space cadet is the only pinball you should be playing on a pc
I've been a fan of Intel NUCs and mini PCs in general for a while now, and had a Hades Canyon that I eventually gave to a family member. My current SFF PC is a Mac Studio :P
Excellent. I'm looking for something to power a head unit in my car and these seem far superior to what I could get as far as pre-built Android head units.
I LOVED this video. Much appreciated.
Great video bro
We definitely want to see a more exspensive more powerful lineup as well😃😁
Yes please do a video with more expensive options
I bought a HP Elitedesk 800 G2, Intel i5-2.5, 8 gigs ram and 256 SSD for $30. It isn't fast but it's fun to play with.
Definitely waiting for evidence like this
Awesome video! whats ur monitor? Looks cool too
Always great reviews. Thanks. Question, can you power the Beelink through the USB C port?
Video idea (although it might be a bit too niche) best mini pc to use as a plex server.
I tried PS2 emulation on the 3050 and it was awful, I definitely recommend something beefier.
Good video! keep going!
Its amazing how fast tech advances these days.
Beelinks are the best mini PCs for the price. I use it for work, mainly for RPA and automation, more than capable and smooth for any automation you through at it. Highly recommend if you're building on premise machines for RPA
I bought one of the minisforum b550 elites after watching your review! Can't wait to get mine
hey let's know how it performs, was thinking of getting one.
@@KB-tb1bj will do! It's supposed to be shipping "now" so here's hoping it comes soon!
Great review. Thanks loads.
i bought a super tiny celeron based mini pc last month, smaller than my samsung s21. it does the movie job very fine, and costs me only 100 dollars.