Tony, I came back to this review because I need a second keyboard (manual) for my organ setup experiments. I would like to emphasize again that organ manuals almost never have 164-165 mm octave width (especially church organs that are of my interest). I should also add that I really like that there are church and pipe organ sounds on this keyboard. Our interests and needs are different 😊 Thank you, Michael Ps. Let me also repeat that both YC61 and CK61 have narrower octave width. I am also considering buying the second CK61 - it became my favourite keyboard. I still practice on Yamaha C7 grand piano but I will not get a digital piano anymore.
@@PianoTone I don't even know how to explain🙂. In Yamaha, the arrangement of octaves looks as if inverted from left to right, compared to a classic piano. Well, the octave is far left and far right
@@vovan5409 The keys are arranged the same as on all pianos; keep in mind this is a 76 key keyboard not 88 keys so the left and right ends might look strange; the left side starts on E note, where an 88 key piano starts on an A note. Hope that helps! Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
Thankyou. I'm irked by the speakers hogging valuable space up on the sides. I mean, the reason we want these portable keyboards is for the compact width, is it not??!! I prefer the full sized keys, so this video was an eye opener and will cross these Yamaha's off my list, cheers
If you're looking for a super portable "piano focused" option with true full size keys, check out the Korg Liano; still not fully weighted keys but a very piano like action/feel, super light, good sounds, and full size keys. Did a review here: ruclips.net/video/tXKu-gwwXuo/видео.html Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTone Hey, thanks very much. I own a P-515 but prefer a 61 or even a 76 for my sailboat. Watching your vid on the Recital 61 atm... Do you have a review of the go keys 5 buried in your media somewhere? Sub'd
@@PianoTone Just watching your review of that now lol. The go keys 5 looks pretty sick, but will have the synth feeling keys. Seems I can still order a go:piano 61 in Canada... hmmm
Depends how many keys the keyboard has. A full set of keys like on a real piano has 88 and the left most white note is an A, so first 7 are A B C D E F G. Better way to “find” notes on any keyboard (49, 61, 73, 76, or 88) is look at the groups of black notes - they will alternate between sets of 2 and 3 black notes. The white key to the left of the black key in the group of 2 is always a C. I have reviews on some awesome online piano courses if you want to check them out: ruclips.net/p/PL_W0EMCT9oNb7OQ7TiB0WHZv7K4k1bScA Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
Hold down DEMO + METRONOME and use B3 to toggle "local control" on and off (you can probably do this in Smart Pianist app as well if you have it connected). Page 20 of the manual.
Thanks! The sound boost just bumps up the speaker output volume a tiny bit. Kind of like "turning it up to 11" ;) Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
The recital is full width and the NP35 is graded so they each have their advantages - the Yamaha sounds are much better I would lean that way myself. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
@@PianoToneThanks! I'm just looking for a 61-key digital piano with the most realistically weighted semi-weighted keys. And after your review on Alesis, I was sure that I had found what I needed) But after the review on the Yamaha NP35 came out, and now I'm confused again...
@@ПавелШтыков-х9т OK thought about it some more; because the Recital keys are the right size and shape - the Recital keys are going to be a bit more realistic even though the NP35 is graded (remember the 61 key NP15 is NOT graded!). But if it was me I would still buy the Yamaha because a) it's a yamaha b)the sounds are better and c) it has the built in audio interface which is a huge feature So realistic key action = Alesis, features = Yamaha. Hope that helps!
Tony, have you already got your Hammond SKPRO? Did you also ever consider Yamaha YC61? I am finally happy with my Roland RD-08 Michael Ps. I have to admit that not standard key size on Piaggero eliminates it from my potential interest. Are you considering it for yourself?
I just got it a week ago; it's absolutely amazing (but it's a beast to learn, soooo many features, and I've been too busy to play with it much yet! This weekend hopefully). I would have loved to try out a YC but the stores here never stock them, so I would have had to buy one to try it so ... And I probably would have liked it but knew I always wanted a real Hammond so likely would have ended up with this anyways. Almost kept my Studiologic Numa Compact 2X for piano and opted for the XK-4 (organ only) instead but the SK Pro with amazing piano and EP sounds gives me a single keyboard solution with my band. No, not considering the NP-35 for myself, definiitely have all the keyboards I'll ever need now lol. Glad to hear you're happy with your RD! Saw one in a store last week and played it for a couple seconds looks cool
@@mfurman It's probably going to be a super general quick intro/overview, followed by lots of small "how to" videos; it's crazy how much this can do and how complex it is :)
That’s a great question - would be nice to try that side by side. From memory I think as much as I like the CTS1 I’d be partial to the Yamaha for the audio interface, smart pianist, extra keys, and graded soft touch action - although the CTS1 does have more sounds…. They’re both great keyboards.
@PianoTone same struggle for me as a beginner, from what people are saying, seems that the CTS1 got better key action, not sure if it's really semi weighted keys, and does the active width normal? Thanks
@@jamiew4851 The octave width on the CT-S1 keys is also narrow. For key action they're both not bad but the Piaggero is better in my opinion (because of the grading).
Hello, I found out your video very helpful, especially about DGX 670. I'm drummer and with age near 40s, find better put money in DGX and learn something new. I know, from scratch, being 5 string bass player more easy than learn 88 key, but with long long deep review you made, you convince me. And just know CK series can use with one (or two) midi keyboard in this channel; I'll watch your video about CK series later. For DGX video about three pedal, Yamaha has launch portable three pedal, works with P series also DGX (if mad enough to gigging), with code FC35, you can find out (and if possible, please do some review) Thank you so much.
Hey Tone, i can not decide between the NP35 or the P225. What would be the better option for a beginner? I would love to hear your opinion on this one. Thanks for the Video and love
The P225 is fully weighted full size keys and also has rhythms and accompaniment, so you can’t really compare the 2 directly. The NP35 is more portable, and is less money, and is aimed at beginners; the P225 would be great for a beginner as well, but would also last you long into intermediate or even advanced levels. An NP35 is a great beginner choice, but if you decide to keep playing long term you might want to upgrade one day. Hope that helps! Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
P-145 is same fully weighted key action without the rhythms, and Korg liano is a competitor to NP35. I have reviews on both of those on my channel. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
Absolutely once they’re available where I am - although I’ve looked at the specs and to be honest I’m not sure it’s much of an upgrade on the 373 but need to see it for sure. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
If just comparing piano sound alone with the internal speaker and Keybed, despite more polyphony and three samples per note, Liano still does not sound as good as Yamaha NP35?I actually like Casio CTS1 a lot, I think the piano and other sound selection are great. The only draw back for me is the low power speaker and 5 octaves range. In terms of sound selection, I think Yamaha NP35 is way better than Liano. So the only reason to go with Liano is the full size keybed, good piano sound and more powerful speaker. Unfortunately I couldn’t test them side by side. Watts don’t mean anything if the speaker is not great.
After looking your Korg Liano and Yamaha NP-35 review, i know what I need ;). I'm looking for a lightweight piano for traveling. To have an instrument for boring hotel nights ;) And the Korg is the winner, more keys an really fullsize keys. I saw a NP-35 vs Liano at your chanel, but i didn't found it again. Can you give me a tip?
The Liano's keys really are awesome. I never made a Liano vs NP-35 video, just talked about it in this review (and I talked about the NP-32, prior version in my Liano review). Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
For some users a smaller octave is an advantage, but there should be two options, and the respective models should be clearly marked. I'm not a fan of unweighted actions, but Yamaha sprung actions seem better than those of some other brands. Ironically, some upmarket stage pianos don't have graded actions, but I like the feature. For my travel piano I purchased the P-121 and not the Studiologic X Piano 73, largely because the latter's action isn't graded. I don't like the speakers being at the ends on the NP-35, because this reduces the portability. I have seen piano students struggle with the NP-32 and I advise parents not to buy these (or similar) as backup/travel pianos for children who are already studying on pianos with better actions.
Thanks for sharing, all good points! I'm actually using a Hammond SK Pro now as a one board solution for playing in my band; it's actual semi weighted (not just heavy springs) and it's a proper organ action but is still usable for piano (I play 90% organ in my band, the rest piano/rhodes, so it works perfect for me. Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTone That's interesting! Good for you! Most "semi-weighted" actions just have firmer springs so far as I can tell. Accordingly, the key return is all wrong for me. I bought one such model as a travel piano (not a Yamaha though) and replaced it with the Yamaha P-121 almost a year ago. Many of us are sad to see these disappear. Yamaha should make a P-221 with 73 or 76 keys.
Thank you for bringing up the octave width and key action in your reviews. I also appreciate how you sample all the sounds.
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what a great review, thank you so much!!
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Tony, I came back to this review because I need a second keyboard (manual) for my organ setup experiments.
I would like to emphasize again that organ manuals almost never have 164-165 mm octave width (especially church organs that are of my interest).
I should also add that I really like that there are church and pipe organ sounds on this keyboard.
Our interests and needs are different 😊
Thank you,
Michael
Ps. Let me also repeat that both YC61 and CK61 have narrower octave width. I am also considering buying the second CK61 - it became my favourite keyboard. I still practice on Yamaha C7 grand piano but I will not get a digital piano anymore.
Sounds cool
What's the point of having the keys backwards?
I'm not sure what you mean?
@@PianoTone I don't even know how to explain🙂. In Yamaha, the arrangement of octaves looks as if inverted from left to right, compared to a classic piano. Well, the octave is far left and far right
@@vovan5409 The keys are arranged the same as on all pianos; keep in mind this is a 76 key keyboard not 88 keys so the left and right ends might look strange; the left side starts on E note, where an 88 key piano starts on an A note.
Hope that helps! Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTone Yes, thanks, I saw it, Indeed, keyboards with 76 keys basically look like this, The only model CME UF7 76-Key with a regular layout
Thankyou. I'm irked by the speakers hogging valuable space up on the sides. I mean, the reason we want these portable keyboards is for the compact width, is it not??!! I prefer the full sized keys, so this video was an eye opener and will cross these Yamaha's off my list, cheers
If you're looking for a super portable "piano focused" option with true full size keys, check out the Korg Liano; still not fully weighted keys but a very piano like action/feel, super light, good sounds, and full size keys. Did a review here:
ruclips.net/video/tXKu-gwwXuo/видео.html
Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTone Hey, thanks very much. I own a P-515 but prefer a 61 or even a 76 for my sailboat. Watching your vid on the Recital 61 atm... Do you have a review of the go keys 5 buried in your media somewhere? Sub'd
Only reviewed the older GO:Piano haven’t seen the new ones yet
@@PianoTone Just watching your review of that now lol. The go keys 5 looks pretty sick, but will have the synth feeling keys. Seems I can still order a go:piano 61 in Canada... hmmm
I have only one question I’m a newbie at piano . Going left to right what are the first 7 notes on the white keys ?
Depends how many keys the keyboard has. A full set of keys like on a real piano has 88 and the left most white note is an A, so first 7 are A B C D E F G. Better way to “find” notes on any keyboard (49, 61, 73, 76, or 88) is look at the groups of black notes - they will alternate between sets of 2 and 3 black notes. The white key to the left of the black key in the group of 2 is always a C.
I have reviews on some awesome online piano courses if you want to check them out:
ruclips.net/p/PL_W0EMCT9oNb7OQ7TiB0WHZv7K4k1bScA
Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTonethank you i will subscribe .
Hi Tony, I'm using NP-15 conected with my iPad to use a DAW on iPad. Hi do I turn off local sounds of my NP-15 to use as a controller?
Hold down DEMO + METRONOME and use B3 to toggle "local control" on and off (you can probably do this in Smart Pianist app as well if you have it connected). Page 20 of the manual.
@@PianoTone Thank you very much!!
Great review.
Btw, I'm not sure if it was mentioned but after listening to the Sound boost comparisons I'm not sure what does that change.
Thanks! The sound boost just bumps up the speaker output volume a tiny bit. Kind of like "turning it up to 11" ;)
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Thank you for such a great amount of work! Could you please compare the keys on this Yamaha and Alesis Recital 61 to see which is more pianistic?
The recital is full width and the NP35 is graded so they each have their advantages - the Yamaha sounds are much better I would lean that way myself.
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@@PianoToneThanks!
I'm just looking for a 61-key digital piano with the most realistically weighted semi-weighted keys. And after your review on Alesis, I was sure that I had found what I needed) But after the review on the Yamaha NP35 came out, and now I'm confused again...
@@ПавелШтыков-х9т OK thought about it some more; because the Recital keys are the right size and shape - the Recital keys are going to be a bit more realistic even though the NP35 is graded (remember the 61 key NP15 is NOT graded!). But if it was me I would still buy the Yamaha because a) it's a yamaha b)the sounds are better and c) it has the built in audio interface which is a huge feature
So realistic key action = Alesis, features = Yamaha. Hope that helps!
@@PianoToneThank you, best RUclipsr!❤❤
@@ПавелШтыков-х9т :)
fastastic review!
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Tony, have you already got your Hammond SKPRO?
Did you also ever consider Yamaha YC61?
I am finally happy with my Roland RD-08
Michael
Ps. I have to admit that not standard key size on Piaggero eliminates it from my potential interest. Are you considering it for yourself?
I just got it a week ago; it's absolutely amazing (but it's a beast to learn, soooo many features, and I've been too busy to play with it much yet! This weekend hopefully). I would have loved to try out a YC but the stores here never stock them, so I would have had to buy one to try it so ... And I probably would have liked it but knew I always wanted a real Hammond so likely would have ended up with this anyways. Almost kept my Studiologic Numa Compact 2X for piano and opted for the XK-4 (organ only) instead but the SK Pro with amazing piano and EP sounds gives me a single keyboard solution with my band.
No, not considering the NP-35 for myself, definiitely have all the keyboards I'll ever need now lol.
Glad to hear you're happy with your RD! Saw one in a store last week and played it for a couple seconds looks cool
@@PianoTone I am really looking forward to your review of SK Pro, Tony!
Thank you,
Michael
@@mfurman It's probably going to be a super general quick intro/overview, followed by lots of small "how to" videos; it's crazy how much this can do and how complex it is :)
@@PianoTone Thank you Tony!
How do you like the Piaggero NP-35 compared to the Casio CT-S1?
That’s a great question - would be nice to try that side by side. From memory I think as much as I like the CTS1 I’d be partial to the Yamaha for the audio interface, smart pianist, extra keys, and graded soft touch action - although the CTS1 does have more sounds…. They’re both great keyboards.
@PianoTone same struggle for me as a beginner, from what people are saying, seems that the CTS1 got better key action, not sure if it's really semi weighted keys, and does the active width normal? Thanks
@@jamiew4851 The octave width on the CT-S1 keys is also narrow. For key action they're both not bad but the Piaggero is better in my opinion (because of the grading).
Hello, I found out your video very helpful, especially about DGX 670. I'm drummer and with age near 40s, find better put money in DGX and learn something new. I know, from scratch, being 5 string bass player more easy than learn 88 key, but with long long deep review you made, you convince me.
And just know CK series can use with one (or two) midi keyboard in this channel; I'll watch your video about CK series later.
For DGX video about three pedal, Yamaha has launch portable three pedal, works with P series also DGX (if mad enough to gigging), with code FC35, you can find out (and if possible, please do some review)
Thank you so much.
I'm also ex bass player! And yes the new pedal looks awesome I'm looking forward to renting one when they are available so I can test it
Hey Tone,
i can not decide between the NP35 or the P225. What would be the better option for a beginner?
I would love to hear your opinion on this one. Thanks for the Video and love
The P225 is fully weighted full size keys and also has rhythms and accompaniment, so you can’t really compare the 2 directly. The NP35 is more portable, and is less money, and is aimed at beginners; the P225 would be great for a beginner as well, but would also last you long into intermediate or even advanced levels. An NP35 is a great beginner choice, but if you decide to keep playing long term you might want to upgrade one day. Hope that helps!
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@@PianoTone Thank you so much for your help Tone. Would love to know if you have any other options or should I go for the 225.
P-145 is same fully weighted key action without the rhythms, and Korg liano is a competitor to NP35. I have reviews on both of those on my channel.
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I good song for the Vibraphone would be Under My Thumb by The Rolling Stones. :)
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Will you review the E383?
Absolutely once they’re available where I am - although I’ve looked at the specs and to be honest I’m not sure it’s much of an upgrade on the 373 but need to see it for sure.
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If just comparing piano sound alone with the internal speaker and Keybed, despite more polyphony and three samples per note, Liano still does not sound as good as Yamaha NP35?I actually like Casio CTS1 a lot, I think the piano and other sound selection are great. The only draw back for me is the low power speaker and 5 octaves range. In terms of sound selection, I think Yamaha NP35 is way better than Liano. So the only reason to go with Liano is the full size keybed, good piano sound and more powerful speaker. Unfortunately I couldn’t test them side by side. Watts don’t mean anything if the speaker is not great.
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After looking your Korg Liano and Yamaha NP-35 review, i know what I need ;). I'm looking for a lightweight piano for traveling. To have an instrument for boring hotel nights ;) And the Korg is the winner, more keys an really fullsize keys. I saw a NP-35 vs Liano at your chanel, but i didn't found it again. Can you give me a tip?
The Liano's keys really are awesome. I never made a Liano vs NP-35 video, just talked about it in this review (and I talked about the NP-32, prior version in my Liano review).
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@@PianoTone Tanks. My bad. :) Found it in this video. And great review and comparson. Subscribed ;)
For some users a smaller octave is an advantage, but there should be two options, and the respective models should be clearly marked.
I'm not a fan of unweighted actions, but Yamaha sprung actions seem better than those of some other brands. Ironically, some upmarket stage pianos don't have graded actions, but I like the feature. For my travel piano I purchased the P-121 and not the Studiologic X Piano 73, largely because the latter's action isn't graded.
I don't like the speakers being at the ends on the NP-35, because this reduces the portability.
I have seen piano students struggle with the NP-32 and I advise parents not to buy these (or similar) as backup/travel pianos for children who are already studying on pianos with better actions.
Thanks for sharing, all good points! I'm actually using a Hammond SK Pro now as a one board solution for playing in my band; it's actual semi weighted (not just heavy springs) and it's a proper organ action but is still usable for piano (I play 90% organ in my band, the rest piano/rhodes, so it works perfect for me.
Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTone That's interesting! Good for you! Most "semi-weighted" actions just have firmer springs so far as I can tell. Accordingly, the key return is all wrong for me. I bought one such model as a travel piano (not a Yamaha though) and replaced it with the Yamaha P-121 almost a year ago. Many of us are sad to see these disappear. Yamaha should make a P-221 with 73 or 76 keys.
I think this has a pretty sound for the buck.... & affordable
It is a pretty nice piano for the $!
play jimmy buffet margaritaville on the vibraphone!!!!
Lol; no YOUI do it ;)
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