So true Adam Been using Solar for decades yes watching myth busters for awesome free entertainment but Yep back then I was loosing half my power to voltage drop Today not loosing the power but I still couldn’t say exactly what’s happening at any point in a day as far as stored watts or daily watts production. Yes there’s tools for that but being a impoverished censored author I can afford nothing but my free Solar power daily like I’m watching you from the suns power Now ! You have to fail to succeed My first wires in Indiana when I finally broke my system down were blacked with corrosion from resistance. Today I learned from that more Solar on a undersized wire can actually lead to less power not more adding additional Solar . It’s physics The Utility companies sure see my potential they made themselves clear about that past four years living in Interlachen Florida. Best wishes and keep learning everyone Author of Solar Independent Utility Systems Manual online Most censored author today
Look I know You're a Liberal in your Political Ideals, but face Facts the BACKLASH with the current Star Wars is WOKE DEI GARBAGE. This is effecting the entire Entertainment Industry, that includes the Man Hating and Uglification of Characters in Video Games which is besides the BUGG RIDDENNESS of AAA Title Games. Case in Point is the New Star Wars Game vs Black Myth Wukong.
Another aspect that makes "build it three times" brilliant is that it removes the pressure to make the first one perfect. Knowing that your first and even second attempt are for learning and practice means that you _focus_ on learning and practice, instead of any (totally normal) mistakes or flaws.
I found something similar when I made a prototype out of cardboard. It can't last, but it helped me see that my core idea will work! Now I need to figure out how to make it out of better materials. It is great to work with cardboard when all you have is a ruler, a compass, glue, a pocket knife, and a spare box, but when you want to make it out of plastic or metal, a pocket knife isn't going to cut it!
Making a prototype, or a draft like in writing, seems like a reasonable approach to making a thing. Then being able to make a better more refined one when you understand the thing.
This made me think about being young and making vs. old(er). I used to overestimate my ability start projects and sometimes abandon them when I lost interest, hit a roadblock to big to overcome, run out of materials (among other things). It never bothered me too much. I always learned something. So many duds. I remember fondly the process of doing and not the actual finished or unfinished project. Now I’m older. I still bite off more than I can chew, sometimes. It’s ok to quit. Or pause (have a lightsaber hilt I’ve been building for 5 years, making it way over complicated). I hesitate more now to start something I won’t finish due to having finite time (a life). Which I regret a little. As far as being worried about not being good at something for a long time. Put it out of your mind. I used to be good at making things that I’m not anymore because of not having done it in years. Don’t think of skills at being finite or ever finished. No matter how good you get there will always be someone better (unless you’re John Williams). Just enjoy or obsess (over) was you are working on. I rarely make anything that I am dying to show anyone else. The three times idea is interesting. I think enjoying the progression of your ability is what Adam is getting at. I was never naturally handy. Some artistic talent but little mechanical. So I was “bad” at working on cars for a very long time before I was “good”. Needing transportation helped that hobby along. So deadlines do help. Promise to make something for someone, or plan to go to a show where you will need to have your project. It helps force some level of completion. Making is fun, but also frustrating at times. The challenge is what makes it enjoyable. Having a reason beyond your own satisfaction can help get over those challenges. Don’t be afraid to alter your project. If you find something difficult, reduce the size or complexity. Outsource a part If you can’t do it yourself yet so you can finish. Strangely I also find it helps to have to set up and clean up every time you work. It’s part of the process. I used to want a place where I could leave my tools out so I could just get back to it. Once I had the room I found that it was difficult to get to work. The process of taking everything out and putting it away is like the warm up and cool down of a sports activity. Work with the tools you have. Buying that fancy new tool won’t necessarily make your project better. Funny now that I have an impact wrench I realize how meditative turning that ratchet really is. Sometimes good enough is good enough. Most people won’t notice the flaws that seem to glare at you. Don’t be afraid to throw it all out and start again. Never expect to get it right the first time, but be happily surprised if you do.
One of the most meaningful pieces of advice I've ever gotten came from Jake the Dog on Adventure Time: "Sucking at something is the first step towards getting sorta good at something."
When it comes to the common feeling of "if I start now, it'll be years before I'm any good" common to starting new hobbies or creative ventures, I tend to fall back on a mode of thought that has served me well. Imagine yourself 3 or 4 years from now, NOT having started it. You'll just be 3 or 4 years down the road, and be just as bad (or nonexistent) at it. The time passes anyway. Use it. This may not work for everyone, but it's helped me get started on so many things.
Yup. This exact rationale is what got me started drawing and 3D modeling in my mid to late thirties. I'm in my early 40's now and I'm good enough to Sketch, design and model things I actually like! I'm so glad I just got started.
A similar reasoning happened when I asked my dad whether he thought I should get my master’s degree. He said that in three years I would be three years older and either I would have the degree or not. I decided to have the degree. Still paying on it, but couldn’t do the job I have now without the training I got from grad school.
Neural plasticity is important. I've been wanting to become good at visual art, off and on, for decades now. I'm thinking of seeing how much I can improve if I meditate before and after practice.
Excellent. I just started picking up Warhammer miniatures. I have no interest in the game - just the figures. I haven't gotten to putting them together or painting them yet, but things are percolating in my brain (how to display, store, etc.). Just painted a Grogu-in-egg Christmas ornament to get myself into the mindset. It was silver-colored and not meant to be painted, but I wanted it to look like it did in Mandalorian. First try out of the gates isn't perfect, but I like how it looks. And it's one step towards tackling the minute details of the Warhammer figs. Hope your foray into miniatures is going well, too!
I'm 44 and just started building gunpla. I've never read or seen any gundam media, and I don't even like most anime. I just pick models that I think look neat.
when your young trial and error is sort of a joy to go through, but you also tend to ignore advice and avoid asking questions that could save you much of that time. A good question will go a long way.
Back when I was a professional model builder (did that for 25 years); if we had a job where we had to make multiple objects that were exactly the same, we'd always make two extra -- the client then got the best copies. Invariably, the first one completed was almost never supplied to the client.
Adam is so right about effects. Fellowship of the Ring, a 3 hour fantasy film, has something like 570 VFX shots. Each Hobbit film had well over 2,000. Fast and the furious movies have over 1000 shots. More than a 3 hour fantasy film, it’s insane.
Agreed. Also, HOW the effects shots are used plays a big part. Mad Max: Fury Road also had 2000 effects shots, but it wasn't like being hit in the face with a hammer the way they were in The Hobbit. They were often blended better with practical effects in Mad Max: Fury Road.
It's also not just the sheer number of special effects but the busyness of every scene these days: the pacing of an action scene is faster and bigger and crammed with details and swooping camera paths that honestly makes a lot of films exhausting to watch. You even see it in Wallace and Gromit in A Matter of Loaf and Death.
The Phantom Menace is a very special movie for me. In 1999 I started a new career and my treat with my first paycheck was to go and see this movIe. I rarely ever got to see movies so this was an amazing experience. I’ll always remember the awe I felt when they entered the underwater city. It blew my mind!
Another good part of building things 3 times: When building the second one you'll overcorrect for mistakes you made in the first one. Like the first one might be too flimsy, but the second one ends up being too heavy. The third one finds some sort of balance.
In regard to the making 3 times, I did this during Covid with wooden benches. I was so surprised by the incremental difference between the first and second, second and third. Highly recommend
I love the feeling of starting a new hobby. It is so fun to shoot up the learning curve of being a beginner. “In the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert’s there are few” ― Shunryu Suzuki, Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind
When I first started learning to be a Science Communicator, I hated deadlines. “How can I ever get this done,” mixed in with a lot of procrastination, of course. Now I LOVE deadlines. When I started writing columns for an online publication, I told the publisher and editor MY self-imposed deadlines (which they did not require), to stop me from research-edit-repeat forever. At some point, “it’s as good as it’s gonna get, time to move on.” Some of my “I’m out of time, and this is a piece of doo-doo” articles were praised by readers the most. Others that I spent WAY too many months on were like dropping a pebble into the ocean. You never can tell. Adam: thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU for your videos. I’ve learned a lot, and learned that I’m not some kind of weirdo. Invaluable.
This is why I always click and watch even if the title doesn't grab me. I'm not a starwars fan, but I know the content of the video will still be insightful
Thank you Adam. I've been searching for a way to explain to my 10 year old that it's okay to fail and try not to be fearful of the process even though everyone feels that fear. This is a way to prove to his metric driven. Mind a way that there is progress immediately. Such a simple idea but amazingly powerful and one that's is overlooked. Thank you
There's a saying. One should build three houses in your life. The first one for an enemy, the second one for a friend and the last one for yourself. Perfectly catching what you're saying.
I'm 69. Four years ago I took on 3D printing. Not just printing geometry from Thingiverse but the whole designing from scratch, teaching myself Fusion 360 CAD, Cura and then Prusa slicer. Fighting (and understanding) my Ender 3 and then my Artillery Sidewinder X2 and so much wasted filament. So many parts that didn't fit together. So many iterations. Making is thinking, I don't like crosswords or word searches but my 3D printers and my CAD software are my touchstones. Never be afraid of failure. Making is life, and hopefully keeps the brain rot at bay. BTW, it was a long time ago. the TV pilot of Babylon 5 had more than 330 VFX shots in it. We pushed those Amigas very hard.
About trying things 3 times: I have found personally with model painting if I'm painting multiple of the same/similar models I see improvement between the 1st and 2nd models, but often a drop off on the 3rd or 4th since the increase in competency is counteracted by a decrease in focus and enthusiasm because it's less new and exciting.
@@seanstoyroom7274 typically a bit of both, paint 2 or 3, come back paint another 2, and so one. Yeah, part of it is fatigue, but often by the 5th it's harder for me to care as much about the little details.
I find that focusing the mind on something else, like background music, can help get the judgmental momentary mind out of the way, so rather than reflecting on the totality of the project, you can just flow and do each individual step. Like just giving your brain over to flow state in order to silence the judgment of “ugh this is the 6th one, here we go again”
@@jnnx At the risk of engaging with a troll, while it might have been true during the OG trilogy in the 70's, the Prequels took the robes and made them a part of the Jedi order... This isn't like... News?
Major congrats on the stained glass!!!!!! I've been a stained glass artist since 1989. You are going to love it. Remember, it's less about the process, and more about the art in choosing the sheets of glass and where you are going to cut them to get the beauty you are looking for. I often spend 6hrs in a glass store just looking at all the sheets to choose the ones with the patterns in the glass I want. I'm in Bakersfield, CA.If you have any questions or would enjoy a mentor, I'd love to come over and help.
I was in the printing business for 18 years. At the third last place I worked, the Bosses went to a demonstration. A week later, they bought a little Apple computer that could really only draw the borders for a retail flyer we did regularly. The paste-up guys only had to stick the copy into the borders. I thought about that little Apple, and talked to some friends. A month or so after that first demo, I went home to my wife and said "I'm going to be out of a job in ten years." It took about five.
As someone who went to college for stained glass. I have a few tips: 1. Here (NL) it is really frustrating when we hear people speak about stained glass while they mean Tiffany. Stained glass is glass in lead. Tiffany is glass in tape and soldered together. Different techniques, results and limitations. 2. A good exercise for cutting glass, lead and bringing it together is to make a checkerboard. Every glass piece is 1x1 cm. It is also a great thing to help set up your cutting table. Then you can see if your table is alligned or crooked. I do believe you can solder, but this is also great for that. So. Many. Points. When the college gave me the exercise I had to recut many times (Year one week 2 btw!) but also got a little bit high from soldering all the points hahah. 3. To learn sharp lines in glass in lead, I would recommend making a square as an outline and then just draw random lines. Wiggly lines. This will also help you to create a blueprint that you can transfer on the glass and how cutting from a panel efficiently can go. Carefull cause you will make sharp points. And they stab you,.,. A lot. Haha Good luck and have fun! Cant wait to see the results :)
My advice for what its worth, set aside a regular weekly time slot for your project and stick to it. Do it literally right now, write it down, and dont excuse yourself from it. Thats it. (Oh, and when I say that time slot is for the project, I mean that strictly. No mobile phone, no Internet unless its explicitly about the project, no distractions, just the project.) Its simple, but it immediately eliminates all the questions and doubts about getting started. Doesnt matter what other people are doing, doesnt matter if you feel like its going to be rubbish, you work away in your allotted time regardless. Doesnt solve all the problems, youll still want to dodge doing stuff because it feels bad or tedious, youll still fail at things a whole bunch, but you stick to that time (At minimum, of course spend more time if you want to.) and good will come of it.
And this is sort of the same way Stephen King (the prolific writer) does his writing. He sits down and writes. Doesn't matter if he feels like it or not, that time is for writing, and he's going to do it.
Adam. You said many thing in this video that resonated deeply with me. I always wanted to work in special effects since I saw Star Wars in 1977 at age 13. Instead, I made a career in graphic design and now I paint as an artist exclusively for the past 12 years. With each painting, I learn a little more and my work improves incrementally. There is always more to learn and improve and that comes with doing the work and getting that practice. I love your work and your videos, Adam.
Saw all the originals in their original formats at the cinema. I was just a baby when Ep.4 was released but was lucky enough to see a re-screening at a drive cinema with my parent when Empire came out. So quite literally a Star Wars fan my whole life. Sure, some movies are better than others, but I love seeing anything new that builds on this universe. I don’t feel personally attacked if a movie doesn’t go in the direction I wanted and I’m just happy that this franchise is still going strong and something I can enjoy today with my own kids the way my parents did with me.
I saw the original Star Wars (A New Hope) at a drive-in when I was seven, and it was everything. I wanted that same feeling when A Phantom Menace came out. And I had it for the first 20 minutes before my 30yo brain started noticing issues. What had changed was me, Lucas was still making the movie for kids, but I had expected the storytelling to mature with me. What changed my mind about the quality was watching them with my seven yo son. He had the same delight I had, and seeing him jump up out of his seat while watching them for the first made me grateful that they were made.
There is some truth to that, but I think the cultural impact of Star Wars (the first movie) was so huge that it belies that it was a movie made "for kids". Any movie coming after that trilogy would have a mountain to climb but I agree with Adam that George Lucas had too many tools and wanted to inject his changing ideals into the universe. Constraints make you creative and maybe George had listened to a little too much to the adoration his early movies gained him because he became something of a Dr. Frankenstein. There are things to love about the Prequels, but most of them were either done better in other movies (pod racing) or were echos of things we already loved deeply. Also, I hate Midi-chlorians
The first prequel was an amazing movie, anyone who can't see that is an idot. JarJar was not the problem, the problem was grown men with delusional nostalgia, baseing their whole identity on a childhood memory of magical wizards in robes with laser pointers like it was a religion.
One of the sad things is he was capable of better. If you look at some of the deleted scenes, he cut out some great dialogue and left in crap like ‘I hate sand’
I was young enough to watch the Star wars prequels as a child. Years after that, I watch 4, 5, and 6, and it blew me away even more with how well they were made even decades before the prequels. Yes, yes, and yes, to the makers advice. I first made theater weapons from chipboard and glue. The first iterations weren't pretty but got the job done. Did a second take on them, and made me more content with the outcomes. Transitioned to woodcarving and again, the first batch of a design was terrible. I made wooden practice knives for knife fight training. The second and third batches got better with each succeeding piece. Learned foam craft during the lockdowns and I got even better at the first two mediums with all the practice of a new material pushing me to learn and refine my grasps of the basics and the techniques I've used thus far. Exactly like pancakes, the first couple are dialing in the process and the next dozen are testaments of your improving skills.
When taking on a new skill, you need to accept that it might not come out how you hope it will but you are going to learn a lot. Last fall, I made a Death Star Advent Calendar out of cardboard. I had never build a sphere before, but I figured it wouldn't be all that complicated. It turned out to be a lot more challenging (a lot of math and stopping for planning), but it was a lot of fun and I learned a lot in the process. Sometimes, you need to accept that the best part will be all of the experience that you will gain in the process.
I love your line of thinking about following your own advise. You reiterated the parameters of the task of tackling a new skill, build it 3 times. You picked stained glass as the skill. You agreed to make it a video and be the test subject of your own advice and see what improvement you see in the builds. Well, of course, how else would you do it? Love the videos and you and the whole Tested team.
The difference between the Star Wars prequels and sequels is that the prequels have a lot of issues, but there's still passion and imagination behind them. Instead of trying to just be the originals again, they dared to expand and reimagine what that universe can be. Both narratively and visually. That shows through in the long run, I think. Especially after series like Clone Wars have had time to build on that foundation. I don't think the sequels will experience nearly the same Renaissance in 20 years because they were more interested in cashing in on what came before instead of having the same willingness to be something new.
@@SO-ym3zs 100%. Also, OG George Lucas wasn't immune to this either. Remember the Holiday Special or the Ewok movies? Crank out content to cash in rather than spend the time and effort to create something amazing.
You’re projecting your racist stereotypes onto made up alien fantasies lol. Maybe that says more about you then the films and at least the Prequels didn’t sideline they’re “marketing advertisements”. They don’t have guys like John Boyega coming out saying how they felt like they were used and actually racist. Plus at least the prequels had diversification with alien races and aren’t as xenophobic as Disney continuing the oppression by having humans be the protagonists representing majority cultures at the expense of the oppressed minorities. Making the entire Resistance human based pretty much. One of the trilogies is racist yes, but it ain’t the prequels
Such a great saying at the beginning. The more you know, the more you realize how little you know. I think this is the perfect example of humility. My grandfather used to tell me this all the time. And as a punk teenager I didn’t understand. Now I wish I had listened more.
Great comments Adam about the hesitation and need to repeat a process. Taught myself how the make molds and create carbon fiber car parts. Now making a roof panel. That emboldened me to start welding to make speaker stands and now applying the same technique for a stair railing. Made a small scale prototype for each first. Throw away stuff but it works out the method and identified the pitfalls before you start the real thing. Keep learning and pushing yourselves, the results are worth the attempt. Cheers.
My problem is a short attention span. A multi day project is most likely going to be abandoned a couple days in, so I look at all these unfinished projects and my head full of ideas and it’s very discouraging. Usually it happens when I realize I’m missing tools or supplies, I put it aside until I can get the tools and it gets forgotten. Small projects, with tools I already own that can be made in less than a day I can handle.
"Build it 3 times" is profoundly insightful, because it will focus and refine your process, and the better the process, the better the result. At the beginning of the 2nd and 3rd build, you have all the perspective of the previous build and can predict some of the pitfalls, and the changes you make in each build will also create new pitfalls you hadn't considered.
"Knowing more means you know what you don't know. " That statement has just given me the biggest moment of clarity in my adult life. It sums up the reason why I constantly learn more and more and head down so many rabbit holes.
@@jamesmaybrick2001the less you know the more confident you are that you can (while you can't) The more you know the more informed you are about facets you lack knowledge of (but might be fully capable of doing the job at hand)
Someone once described the original trilogy as being shown like a silent film but with mostly just music to move the story along from scene to scene. I believe the pacing and presentation of the 1st three is perfect. THAT'S why they inspired the pre and sequels. Plus, countless parodies, video games, tv series, merch , you name it. Star Wars would NOT have taken off if the prequels were the first ones shown in theaters. Practical effects are soooo important in films.
My second attempt is almost always worse than the first. When I think I know a little bit about something, that's when things go wonky. As they say "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing".
Adam is so right about creating multiple versions of things! I scratchbuild historic model ships and it’s extremely common to have to make a part numerous times before you end up with the part that you’d envisioned. The skills and techniques you learn while doing this are sometimes shocking; it’s immensely satisfying to end up with a part in which you’ve struggled with at the start, but after trial/error/research, eventually developed to a high degree of quality. Also… still within the model shipbuilding hobby… People new to the hobby who are nervous about their ability to build a U.S.S Constitution or H.M.S Victory for example, are strongly encouraged to build the easiest projects they can find first. Once they have succeeded in building the easy project (no matter how many times it takes), they can then carry the skills they’ve learned to their next build which can be a little more complex… and so on… Eventually, they will have the skills and confidence to build a large, complex model.
That's what I did with Model Cars: I had started with K.I.T.T., got stalled because of diffculty. So I went Back To The Future, literally, by building the 4 Deloreans(which were Skill Levels 1 and 2). Then I went back to K.I.T.T. a year later and it worked out well.
I have been creating things for years, not all of it was professional use, for work and some for me or my family. My process for doing something new where I feel I need to understand the complexity. I break my job down to components/steps. I then concentrate on the how to approach the new parts. Get to understand how to make that part work and then do the work to integrate the new part into the other aspects of the overall job. If possible I like to prototype the new work to help me get the process and interactions worked out. I have used this work effort breakdown for computer programming, wood working, metal and mechanical assemblies and recently for 3D printing designs and actual printing functions. I have added 3D design and printing a prototype to my process for my wood and metal work projects. I like doing this as it helps me work out design/fabrication issues before I start working with the final material. Love your channel. I hope you will be doing more of your builds. I really like to see how you tackle the concept -> design -> implementation process.
I am the same age and similar experience like Adam. I would say the more experienced you become, the less worried you become about what you dont know. Time teaches you, that you can pull trough something, you know little about. 😊
1977 Star Wars (before it was "a New Hope") was such a magical film for me.. I couldn't get enough of it and fired up my imagination. But it's funny when ESB came out I found it didn't give me the same wonderment, and by the time RoTJ came out, it just felt like another movie. I had high hopes for the prequels but they fell flat.. and now the majority of the new content, well most is just pretty horrible to put it bluntly. At the end of the day I may have grown old at this point but it's still all about the original movie for me.
One quote I always try to keep in mind when I start something is "Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway."
What sometimes discourages older people from changing career is the thought that young people have the edge because they've been doing it since they were young, but that's only like 10 years. You've got more experience than that in other things and 10 years isn't a long time. That's 10 years. Worth playing with friends and d****** about and getting drunk and discovering girls and maybe smoking a bit of weed? Now, You're older, more focused. More sure of yourself. It's not going to take you 10 years. All the skills you have acquired on the way will contribute to your new life in ways you wouldn't even believe.
Something I think worth mentioning for the first question is that most skills don't exist in a vacuum. Someone whose 40 something is likely bringing a huge amount of tacit knowledge and wisdom into a new skill that will have a carryover effect that a 20 something isn't going to have access to. I remember talking to some people that remembered how hard things like physics and math when they first went to college, but say 10 or 15 years later got advanced degrees and commented about how easy those subjects became later in life and wondered why it was so hard back then, and I believe it has a lot to do with our ability to simply think and process information improves as you live and gain experience.
I can draw parallels with the opening question about learning a new skill later in life with my journey learning audio production and mixing. Adam's advice is spot on. In addition, I'd add that quantity and variety is important. Repeat, repeat sharpens the core skill, variety slowly widens the application of the skill too. Critically.... If you can get into a mindset where you can embrace the learning side simply for the sake of it, it'll help stop you getting disheartened and unfavourably comparing your own journey to others. And don't be afraid to walk away from a single item for a while when you can't get it to where you want. Persistence is difference from bashing your head off a wall
I love the prequels! I was born in the mid 90s so they are the Star Wars I grew up with. That said I also like the Original Trilogy. Clone Wars 2008-2020 also helps to flesh out the prequels.
If you need a tv show to make your movie make sense, you failed at that movie. I mean, like what you like, obviously, and don't let anybody ever tell you your Like is wrong!
@@ClintonAllenAnderson if they left in Darth JarJar; I'd appreciate them more; I think people finding him a goofy joke would've made the payoff that much better when you looked back and saw him manipulating things that whole movie that most looked over. But hey; people complain, things change, that is life.
Born in 1986 so I was 12 when I saw phantom menace and I knew something was wrong, that was like the stone that caused the slow leak in my love of star wars, if my love of star wars in this metaphor was a big tyre. The second one was the pot hole that finished it off.
I cannot tell you how many times I've had to scrap something and redo it multiple times until i was satisfied. I gave Adam a copy of the book I wrote , which went through 4 rewrites. It's not about being the best, it's about being better than the last time you made the attempt. I know it's hard to believe this, but you are enough. Every step you take toward the next complete project makes you more than were before that step.
When the prequel series came out, we only had the original trilogy for comparison so they looked bad. Now we have the sequel trilogy and by comparison the prequels look fantastic.
Adam, you have been an inspiration to me ever since I first watched Mythbusters so many years ago. Your views and advice on learning and being creative has kept me going for all these years. You are a legend, and you have my utmost respect!
Re: The prequels, I also feel like that in the first three episodes George Lucas was just the every-day-guy director the actors could talk to and discuss plot and dialogue with. I remember Carrie Fisher saying "George, nobody talks like that" and consequently things would be made more demonstrably better. Carrie had a hand in script rewrites for both Empire and Return, making them stronger movies. Fast forward to the creation of the prequels, George Lucas is now a HUGE celebrity, and the writing and directing seem to go largely unchecked. Lucas does what he wants, and, let me just say, Carrie Fisher could have helped them a whole lot. It reminds me of Robert Heinlein saying that he wanted to get famous enough he wouldn't have to put up with editors. Well, he did get famous enough, and didn't deal with editors, and, unfortunately, it showed. This was the fate of the Star Wars prequels.
What do you mean? She was an uncredited script doctor on the first two Prequels actually. She actually loved them. She also didn't have much of a hand on the script with the Originals. Besides, the dialogue is consistent across all six films. Check out Everytime Star Wars Quotes Star Wars on here. George doesn't use dialogue like most filmmakers as he's a visual filmmaker versus a literary filmmaker. It's more an emotional anchor that accommodates the visuals to convey tone. Star Wars is meant to be a silent film.
The best Star Wars movie is Empire. And Lucas didn't direct that one. The sad truth is that he's really not that great of a director. He has definitely been a part of some VERY great movies, but they're great in spite of his direction, not because of it. The key element that made Lucas successful early in his career was his humility. He surrounded himself with people that knew better than he did and he let them work. In the prequels, though, he overdirected. The overall plot of those movies is fantastic, but the execution of it is... poor. Part of the problem, I think, is that he tried to infantilize the entire thing rather than trying to tell the best possible story.
@@MrMagnaniman False. He gave Irvin Kershner guidelines in how Empire was to be shot. Just like Richard Marquard on Jedi. Both were hired directors like television where the executive producer or showrunner oversees everything. George also did many of the visual effects scenes and edited on both. He also had the majority of Empire written before Lawrence Kasdan even came into the picture. Kasdan's biggest contribution was mostly polishing it. Most of the iconic lines such as "No, I am your father", "I am not a committee", and "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter" are directly from George. He was just as collaborative on the Prequels. Jonathan Rinzler debunked this narrative before he passed away. So, what you're saying is actually false narrative fanfiction and not based on anything true. He stayed the same man of humility he always was during the Prequels and throughout his entire career. You should look into how George actually makes his films. Likewise at the cast and crew on the Prequels and see how many of them have gone on to be part of some of the more iconic films of the last two decades. The crews he hired were always people he trusted and respected. Many of whom returned from the old days. Or as Peter Diamond put it: "Irvin obviously had fixed ideas with what he wanted to do, but he was still double checking with George whether it would fit in with what he had in mind. Richard was exactly the same. I had worked with Richard before, fortunately. But George was the guy; it was his vision entirely."
@@zoetropeguardian That was a giant straw man. I didn't say Lucas had no hand in those films. I didn't say he was a bad writer. I didn't say he was a bad producer. I said he was a poor director. And you can see that, especially in the prequels. For instance, he had a phenomenal cast, and they all turned in some of the worst performances of their careers.
@@MrMagnaniman It wasn't to "straw man" but point out context and debunk what you said of his earlier films being good in spite of him. What are you talking about? The acting in the Prequels is great. It's based on 1930's and 40's theatrical acting versus method acting that is the common practice today. George prefers the old style. People are just so conditioned by the modern style that they can't see the difference.
Some of the best stuff I’ve done started off rescuing a mistake. Sometimes the ‘mistake’ was the discovery of how the material worked that opened up loads more possibilities. The fun is discovering techniques inspired by watching stuff like this 👍🏻
General advice to this Mate. I have been making model kits sense I was eight. Took a break when I went into the US Navy. I have sitting on my 'I Love Me' shelf the first model I ever build myself. It looks like ... well crap. I now with the years sense honed the craft, scratch build and never look back. What is the best ad vice I can offer. Never Be Afraid of the next step! I also have four models of the Enterprise NCC-1701 from then and now. I love all four but the last one is not the pride and joy it is the first built when I was twelve. Make it, break it and make it again. In time there will be a shelf of your own collection. That first one will always be your favorite. Each Star Wars is in it self a master peace of the things to come. Never question the Solo wisdom ... I know. Peace.
I think the backlash has to do with mainly two things. The first generation for a long time wasn't able to adapt to the fact that George continued to make the stories for kids. And two, because people feel a sense of ownership over Star Wars. People are critical because they think George should have told his stories the way they wanted him to tell it. It doesn’t work that way. All art that can be said to be created by one voice doesn’t work that way. Star Wars was a means of personal expression for George. What George wanted it to be was very different from what fans thought it should be. They don't look at these things for what they are but what they think they should be. It's a classic case of loving the idea of something versus loving something for what it actually is. This happens so much with Star Wars and it creates so many misconceptions about the actual meanings behind the films, George, and the creative process behind the making of them. George's entire filmography is consistent but you wouldn't know that by the way people talk about him. Take Attack of the Clones for example, it's his coming full circle film as it has nods to his student films, American Graffiti, THX 1138, and Young Indiana Jones. You can make many connections between these various projects as he plays with many of the same issues in the film, and all of his films, but that requires figuring out what they are and knowing why he'd make the connection. People can't be bothered to engage with it on these terms but what they think it should be. It creates a disconnect between the artist and audience. Likewise the dialogue is consistent across his career, in particular with Star Wars. Check out Everytime Star Wars Quotes Star Wars on here. You can see just how deep it goes. He doesn't use dialogue like most filmmakers as it's more of a way to convey tone to accommodate the visuals. Star Wars is meant to be seen as a silent film. George is an immensely talented filmmaker, one of the all-time greats, who is greatly misunderstood and underappreciated. It makes me really sad as I think if people could meet him on his terms and not their own preconceptions they'd see something far more special than they can wrap their heads around. I miss him and his storytelling so much. However, like everything you have to let go at some point as nothing stays the same.
@@alenahubbard1391 It's projection on their part. Star Wars under George was always inspired by other cultures and appreciation for them. The Tusken Raiders in the very first, and subsequent films, Star Wars made are inspired in part by Native Americans for example in their design. Likewise Greedo's voice is a rare African language. George never once had ill intentions when doing these things and the ones you mentioned. He told stories that borrowed from cultures and mythology across the world as a way of making his story more tangible and real. It certainly worked as it's a series loved the world over. Ahmed Best, who plays Jar Jar, has gone on record in saying that his voice was also one he did for his baby cousins. He's also very candid and outspoken about real racism. How people can twist these things in the context of George's stories to mean something different from what they actually are is beyond me. He's not a malicious person.
People say the prequels were made for kids, but I don't think that's true. The plot revolves around some pretty complicated politics, and I have yet to meet an adult in real life that disliked the prequels regardless of their age.
@@austinbaccus George said from the beginning Star Wars was made for kids. It's also always had politics at the core of its story. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp? Also, the hate for the Prequels in some corners of the internet is overblown and not an accurate reflection of how the narrative has changed or how the general audience feels about them.
I truly appreciate creators that show the ENTIRE process of creating something. There are so many social media posts about the successful completion of the project. But they never show their mistakes, missteps, failures, or the rest of the process that happens. Especially when doing something for the first time. It's a larger issue of Social Media that everything is moderated and curated before it's posted, so the poster appears in the best light, or in exactly some situation that does not represent the reality of the situation. Everyone that is a "master" of some skill has failed. It's by failure that we really learn. I came here though for Adam's opinion the the prequels. I agree that they are masterful exercises in technical movie making. In many ways they were groundbreaking cinema. But they were also 1000% George's babies. There was no one to push back on his editing, writing, or direction. For the originals, there were plenty of people that had a say in the final product and could challenge Lucas if they knew a way to make it better. The good and the bad of Star Wars was magnified in these movies. IMO on their own, they don't stand up very well over time. The scope is just too grand. We miss out on the dynamics which led Anakin to become Vader. It just kinda happens somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd movies. The Clone Wars TV show fills that in. It makes the movies make sense. Without it being a part of a lot of kid's growing up, I don't think the prequel movies would be remembered as fondly as they are. Especially as the show went on and improved vastly season over season.
That is incredible advice! Make something 3 times. I fix things, and when I tell myself that it will take me 3 tries to fix this issue, it is so motivating and liberating to tackle the repair. This can’t be underestimated
At my job I didn’t even call myself a Junior Designer until five years. After 40 years it drives me INSANE hearing a kid a month in call themselves a designer. “No, you’re a Draftsperson!”
I've been playing bass on and off for a few years, try to keep playing some per week. After all this time I barely call myself a bass player, I still think I'm an absolute beginner. Whether that's true or not, I don't wanna make the call.
Yep, until we learn how to couch the question and define the requirements, it's just joining the dots. I'm still a bit green at 35 years working (most of it self employed) and still get the 'gulp' moment. I guess it's bravura over experience for them?
@@SeanSMST If you can make the time for it, find a drummer to play with from time to time. You'll feel better about your playing pretty quick. Really quick if they're a good drummer. And if they're just a guy who owns a drum kit... well, maybe they'll improve.
The appeal of the very first Star Wars as first released in 1977 came from a relatively straightforward "good guys" vs "bad guys" classic hero's journey (Luke), with a somewhat bad-ass damsel-in-distress. Most of the familiar characters are archetypes, and the movie was a bit a of a roller-coaster ride balanced with quieter, introspective moments. Much of the Star Wars universe came without need to explain anything... e.g. "the Force". IHMO the prequels came up short in part because some of the essential plot development in Phantom Menace (political maneuvering in and out of the senate chamber) got a bit too slow and convoluted, some of the action scenes were a bit too frenetic, elements of the pod race failed to maintain "suspension of disbelief". For that matter, many of the digital effects scenes broke disbelief because I think they went too far in one way or another. And don't get me started on Jar-Jar.
You all fail to realize how INNOVATIVE jar jar and other aspects were which led the way to so many of today’s films. You took death maul and got offended by jar jar. Then you claim you loved 3pio when there were many during the 1st release of episodes 456 who HATED the humor and the droids etc . Y’all are just so fickle.
@GyvonJante But you're aggregating the individual preferences of different people and calling them "fickle ". If I like something but someone else doesn't like it it doesn't make either of us fickle. It would be disengenuos to dismiss audience likes and dislikes by criticizing said audience , instead of the films themselves.
@@GyvonJante The problem with jar jar isn't just that he was a dumb character, which he was, but that he and the gungans and the trade federation were racist stereotypes.
I'm a software engineer with 45 years exp, the last 27 of it building spacecraft. WE build things 3 times - Engineering/Development unit (EDU), Qualification unit, Flight unit. Skip one of those and you're in for a rough time... EDU: resolve the 'known unknowns' (you know you don't know how to do it) and the 'unknown knowns' (you didn't know you needed it, but you know how to do it), and find the 'unknown unknowns' QUAL: you built the EDU out of non-flight parts, now build it out of flight components and figure out the differences (mostly more 'unknown knowns' - I know how to fix this, I just didn't know I needed to...). You'll end up fixing a LOT of stuff in software that the hardware guys didn't think of!! 😁 FLIGHT: rebuild the QUAL unit but for real this time, incorporating all the changes you found in QUAL. I would do the same thing with a piece of furniture - EDU: build it out of scrap (pine?) and learn the new techniques you need QUAL: rebuild it in a consistent species of hardwood, but don't expect it to be good enough to put in your house or sell. FLIGHT: build it for real out of what you really want.
I felt the prequels were totally unnecessary because everything was adequately explained in the original trilogy. I also feel that the mystery of Vader's descent into the dark side is what made his character so intriguing.
I think this advice is great for many different disciplines. For example, I recently replaced all the drawer slides in my kitchen with soft-close slides. The first one I did, I followed the directs, measured everything out, etc. The second one, I got a scrap piece of wood that I drilled holes in and marked up to use as a template for the rest of the drawers. The first one took a good 45 minutes. The second, including time to make the template, took around 30 minutes. All subsequent drawers took around 15-20 minutes, and required almost no adjustments, unlike the first two. I know that's not really the same as making, but the whole "incremental improvements through repetition" angle holds up.
A big part of it is what you grew up with. I know folks who love them dearly because that's what they watched as kids, whereas for my generation, who grew up with the originals, most of us at best tolerate the prequels, at worst despise them. They felt like an enormous step backwards at the time.
I saw the OT as a child, so the prequels as an adult. I like the prequels a little less, but I don't think anything could match the OT. The sequels are another step down but there's still a lot that I like. My favorite, of all the films and TV shows, is Rogue One. (I haven't much of the recent shows.)
Watched all these films in 2020 and I think the Prequels are pretty clearly the strongest part, yes there are issues but I find there are more issues with the originals. For every Anakin-Padmé romance there's a Han-Leia romance. Ultimately I love all of the original six movies. I don't pretend they're perfect but I think they're deeply interesting and layered and there's incredible storytelling throughout.
The three build example is what I have been using for the last few years. It works great when developing a new skill. The improvement between each work is noticeable and the confidence it provides in your abilities is worth the time spent.
When it comes to Star Wars I think the prequels are fine. You can criticize the story and characters all you want, but it added more content to the canon which is a good thing to play off in the future. Which is also my biggest complaint about the newest movies: they are just rehashing content in the Star Wars universe over and over again without adding much of value. Give us new planets, locations, lore, aliens. And when George Lucas denounced all the third-party Star Wars stuff'a lore it really killed the interest in the universe for me.
im almost 50 and i have been making since i was about 7 and im still learning new skills and tricks. i watch videos like these all the time and always learn something new with each new project. i just recently got a desktop laser and will soon be getting a 3d printer and im finding interesing ways to use them on foam and acrylic and mdf...
I adore the tech and different factions of the prequels. The droids especially have so many cool and unique vehicles and weapons. It all felt very new, but still like it all belonged to Star Wars.
I'm 49 and just started making 3d printed props. I made a Battlestar Galactica helmet, it went in the bin. Lessons were learned and the next one will be better. I spent weeks printing the parts, sanding and filling before realising it was a hot mess and unsalvageable but I learnt so much and the next one is already better. I think I will make a third one just to test Adam's idea!
I hand-made a pair of belt loops a couple days ago, to replace worn-out ones on a Utilikilt that I've been patching up. Completely hand-stitched, and guided entirely by my own intuition. I don't have a ton of sewing experience, this is something I've only recently been getting into. I made them separately, back-to-back, and the second one is noticeably better than the first. I gave more thought to how to stitch it in an effective way that more closely replicated the look of the originals, and there was an immediate improvement. If I were to make a third one, it would probably look like the second one, but done a little more cleanly. I'm with Adam on the "make three of the same thing" advice, it immediately resonated with that experience.
What amazed me about the Prequels, happened with the RECENT movies (even TV shows): I realized, no matter who wrote, directed, created them...NONE felt like LUCAS had his fingerprint in it. I learned not to expect a Lucas experience. And a larger takeaway: you can give someone the artist's brushes, paints, easels, pencils, studio, canvases, etc. but they will never be the artist they came from. Lucas is 80+ years old. It is extremely unlikely that his hand will be in any future Star Wars. Do not expect a Lucas experience ever again. What comes from the artist IS the artist.
Very good advice, especially the part about the more you know the more you find out you don't know, I spent a couple decades welding as a profession, and by thd end I was always stunned by how much more I could have learned about it.
I never thought that there was backlash against the prequels. Backlash implies that something was received really positively at first, and then a flood of negativity came. The prequels earned a negative reputation almost from the start. Now, I do think that the *first* prequel got backlash, because I remember camping out overnight with a huge crowd in the theater parking lot to see it at the first showing, and we all liked it. It wasn't perfect, but it was the first new Star Wars in *ages*, and we were willing to cut it some slack. Nobody *hated* Jar Jar yet. Certainly nobody was being critical of Jake Lloyd. We all liked the movie, and were curious to see where they'd go with the story. Unfortunately, where they went with it was a mediocre actor playing a whiny teen getting grumpier and grumpier until he commits mass murder, all while spouting some of the worst dialogue we'd heard in ages. Not helping was the fact that there were some *really slow* parts to the second and third movies. There was also little done to conceal the kid marketing and toy tie-ins. Another problem is names. Lucas should not be allowed to name characters, especially villains. Darth Maul? Why Maul? Because it sounds cool. Mauling someone sounds badass. But it's an English word. It doesn't make sense for "a long time go in a galaxy far, far away". Darth Sidious? Just as bad. Obviously a shortening of Insidious, because it sounds evil. But it only sounds evil in English. And then there are the stupid names. Count Dooku? How are we supposed to take that character seriously? Droopy McCool? McAnything makes no sense. Mc is a cultural thing firmly rooted on Earth. Elan Sleazebaggano? Really? And unfortunately, with the precedent set, the Star Wars universe is now *filled* with characters with stupid names that make no sense for a galaxy that has never heard of Earth. And finally, there were the droid questions. Such as, at what point was their memory wiped? Because C-3PO should have recognized the Skywalker name, and R2D2 should have recognized both Obi-Wan and the Skywalker name. Also, when did R2D2 break down and not get repaired? He never had jump jets before. Now years before he suddenly does? That could have been really useful at various points in the original trilogy. Is that somehow lost tech, when other tech seems to be advancing? Now, I haven't watched all of the TV shows, so maybe there were some answers there, but if there are I am not aware of them. The end result was that while we enjoyed the first one, we were disappointed by the prequel trilogy as a whole, and found the second and third movies hard to sit through the first time, and painful to rewatch. I agree with Adam, they're visually gorgeous. But Star Wars needs to do more than just look good.
Anakin WAS a whiny strongheaded teen that was the weakness which led him down the path to the dark side. and the c3po got his memory wiped at the end of episode 3, so, no, he wouldn't recognize the Skywalker or Kenobi names. and R2 keeps his own counsel. the jump jets WERE a poor decision, though. and if you want to talk about names - what about han SOLO?
@@kenbrown2808 It wasn't that he was a whiny teen that was the problem. It was that he was a whiny teen with terrible dialogue portrayed by a mediocre-at-best actor. Han Solo is only a bad name retroactively. There are actual people with the last name of solo. Having him be retcon assigned the name decades later in the Solo movie because he was alone at the time was just stupid, though. It also doesn't make much sense. It's not even a "it's translated from whatever language they're using to English" thing. Solo is Spanish.
@@stevensauer8539 and you complained that a galaxy far far away shouldn't have names that have double meanings in english. yet that has been a convention from the beginning. and as for Hayden Christiansen's performance - you are just assuming he was a bad actor because you didn't like Anakin being a whiny teen with "bad dialogue" and yes, there's an argument that Lucas IS terrible at dialogue, but the truth is that Hayden did EXACTLY the acting job that was needed to make anakin EXACTLY the flawed person who fell to the dark side. and why Yoda hesitated to train Luke, who ALSO started out as a whiny teen with bad dialogue. and yeah, the Solo movie was a terribly written abomination that ignored EVERYTHING in pre-disney canon. you have a valid complaint, there.
@@kenbrown2808 Yes, stupid names has been a convention since the beginning. Proof that from the get-go Lucas was terrible at names. However, in the first movie, the names in general could be explained as translations. "Skywalker" was whatever their language had for those words. Same with "Darklighter". They weren't parts of *our* words chosen because they sound a certain way. On the other hand, names like "Sidious" and "Plagueis" are just bad writing. At least with "Maul" and "Bane" you can again say well that's just what they translate as. But Darth Maul wasn't named that when he became a sith, he was born as Maul. A baby named either "big crushing weapon" or "to physically seriously damage someone or something", depending on which meaning of maul you use. Which either way again puts it in the realm of bad writing. I'm not assuming Hayden was a bad actor, I'm stating that he was a mediocre-at-best actor, and has been in everything I've ever seen him in. There's a difference between a mediocre actor and a bad one. Putting "bad dialogue" in quotes doesn't change the fact that it was bad dialogue. And no, a more skilled actor could have brought much more nuance to the role, and made it something worth watching instead of something to endure. Yes, Luke whined when he first appeared. But he wasn't anywhere near as bad as teen Anakin, nor was his dialogue in even the same league as Anakin's when it comes to bad dialogue. In fact, I'd say only a line here and line there were questionable, rather than the entire thing being just bad. But I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that Anakin being terrible is excusable because the original Star Wars was a bad movie, too? Because that seems to be your point, yet we know it's not true. I get it, though, I do. You grew up on the prequels. They're a part of your cultural identity, and critique of them makes you feel like that identity is being attacked, so you're willing to overlook the flaws, or try to justify them. But any objective viewer is going to see the same flaws in the prequels that I do. In fact, many, many have. I grew up on the original trilogy. I know what good Star Wars looks like. Episodes 2 and 3 are not it.
That is very good advice. When I was still a beginner at coding I decided to take on a big personal project. A project that was way out of my comfort zone and something I knew that I wouldn't be able to do perfectly. I, however, surprised myself even though the final project had its flaws. Then I decided to start from scratch, using a different approach and architecture, and the final project was much better. Then I rewrote the same app from scratch again, and after that I felt I had a pretty good grasp on it.
I see all 6 Star Wars movies from George as being experimental, he was literally helping pioneering CGI. Also the phantom menace has the most practical sets of any Star Wars movie
@@TimSheehanit’s not a problem, it actually helps. Star Wars is supposed to be vastly different. Each planet is different in their own unique way, and they all feel full of life and visually shocking
When I was a young development engineer and was struggling, I had this amazing old school German boss who would tell me these analogies. Onetime he said Joe when you build a house the first is for your enemy, the second one is for a friend and the third house is yours. It kind of fits with what you started talking about.
@@meej33 finally someone who sees the truth! I can't stand prequel-lovers pretending like their trilogy is far better than the sequels, pot meet kettle
I don’t get that. The prequels ruined the back story of Star Wars. The sequels squandered opportunities. One doesn’t make the other better. At least the acting in the sequels was good. Outside of Ewan and the Emperor, there wasn’t a single good performance in the prequels.
Without touching on the actual content in the films, both the Prequels and Sequels suffer from the same issue, in my opinion: They had adults trying to feel the same way they did when they were kids. The prequels had the OT fans, the sequels has the first-gen prequel fans, but in both cases, people who fell in love with something when they were 10, 12, 14 years old expecting the same feeling at 25, 30, 40 years old. The movies were not that drastically different from an execution point of view, but what had changed was the viewer and their world-view. And so many people can't grasp that. They wanted that childlike joy again, and when they didn't get it, they blamed the filmmakers rather than reflecting on themselves.
So you’re blaming the fan base? Now I’ve heard it all. They were vastly different. The OT movies were filled with swashbuckling and rogues. The prequels were crammed with politics, unlikeable characters, not great CGI, and a whining protagonist. Completely different feel.
I don't think that's the case. I think the majority of original OT fans enjoyed Andor and Mandalorian. But I've also yet to meet an adult who doesn't enjoy watching the prequels, so idk.
When I started tying fishing flies, I received similar advice from an old-timer. He told me to never make less than 6 of anything; the first one or two of the day will have mistakes even if it's a familiar pattern. And if they're all perfect (or close enough), you'll at least get quicker as you repeat the motions and save yourself switching time in the long run. He went on to say that when you try a new skill, pattern, material, etc., tie a dozen or more. Line them up as you make them and take a few moments to inspect before starting the next. The refinement will be most evident on the first few, but you will always find ways to make them even marginally better. Then keep the first and last of that run so your future self can see just how far you've come.
I started crocheting in January and immediately jumped into making a blanket for my two children, my wife and myself and could see the improvement through the projects. Now I'm working on scarfs with the same results.
There's a difference in writing and dialog. Writing is story, dialog is the actual speaking and acting. The dialog in the prequels was indeed not good. But the overall writing of the story was great.
The McElroy Brothers always say something that sticks with me. When talking about starting a podcast or anything, accept that the first time you do it, it's going to suck. And what's amazing is, unless it's something that's being live broadcast, you get to store it away and never show anyone if you don't want to. But that act of taking the first step can be so scary and you can have such high expectations for yourself that adjusting your mindset is the most powerful tool.
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So true Adam
Been using Solar for decades yes watching myth busters for awesome free entertainment but
Yep back then I was loosing half my power to voltage drop
Today not loosing the power but I still couldn’t say exactly what’s happening at any point in a day as far as stored watts or daily watts production. Yes there’s tools for that but being a impoverished censored author I can afford nothing but my free Solar power daily like I’m watching you from the suns power Now !
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Today I learned from that more Solar on a undersized wire can actually lead to less power not more adding additional Solar . It’s physics
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Look I know You're a Liberal in your Political Ideals, but face Facts the BACKLASH with the current Star Wars is WOKE DEI GARBAGE. This is effecting the entire Entertainment Industry, that includes the Man Hating and Uglification of Characters in Video Games which is besides the BUGG RIDDENNESS of AAA Title Games. Case in Point is the New Star Wars Game vs Black Myth Wukong.
According to the Making of Jurassic Park, the film only had just over 50 CGI Shots.
Another aspect that makes "build it three times" brilliant is that it removes the pressure to make the first one perfect. Knowing that your first and even second attempt are for learning and practice means that you _focus_ on learning and practice, instead of any (totally normal) mistakes or flaws.
Except when the 2 and 3 one makes you go broke. ;)
I found something similar when I made a prototype out of cardboard. It can't last, but it helped me see that my core idea will work!
Now I need to figure out how to make it out of better materials. It is great to work with cardboard when all you have is a ruler, a compass, glue, a pocket knife, and a spare box, but when you want to make it out of plastic or metal, a pocket knife isn't going to cut it!
Making a prototype, or a draft like in writing, seems like a reasonable approach to making a thing. Then being able to make a better more refined one when you understand the thing.
This made me think about being young and making vs. old(er). I used to overestimate my ability start projects and sometimes abandon them when I lost interest, hit a roadblock to big to overcome, run out of materials (among other things).
It never bothered me too much. I always learned something. So many duds. I remember fondly the process of doing and not the actual finished or unfinished project.
Now I’m older. I still bite off more than I can chew, sometimes. It’s ok to quit. Or pause (have a lightsaber hilt I’ve been building for 5 years, making it way over complicated).
I hesitate more now to start something I won’t finish due to having finite time (a life). Which I regret a little.
As far as being worried about not being good at something for a long time. Put it out of your mind. I used to be good at making things that I’m not anymore because of not having done it in years. Don’t think of skills at being finite or ever finished. No matter how good you get there will always be someone better (unless you’re John Williams). Just enjoy or obsess (over) was you are working on. I rarely make anything that I am dying to show anyone else.
The three times idea is interesting. I think enjoying the progression of your ability is what Adam is getting at. I was never naturally handy. Some artistic talent but little mechanical. So I was “bad” at working on cars for a very long time before I was “good”. Needing transportation helped that hobby along. So deadlines do help. Promise to make something for someone, or plan to go to a show where you will need to have your project. It helps force some level of completion. Making is fun, but also frustrating at times. The challenge is what makes it enjoyable. Having a reason beyond your own satisfaction can help get over those challenges. Don’t be afraid to alter your project. If you find something difficult, reduce the size or complexity. Outsource a part If you can’t do it yourself yet so you can finish.
Strangely I also find it helps to have to set up and clean up every time you work. It’s part of the process. I used to want a place where I could leave my tools out so I could just get back to it. Once I had the room I found that it was difficult to get to work. The process of taking everything out and putting it away is like the warm up and cool down of a sports activity.
Work with the tools you have. Buying that fancy new tool won’t necessarily make your project better. Funny now that I have an impact wrench I realize how meditative turning that ratchet really is. Sometimes good enough is good enough. Most people won’t notice the flaws that seem to glare at you. Don’t be afraid to throw it all out and start again. Never expect to get it right the first time, but be happily surprised if you do.
In software development this is known as "be prepared to thrown one away", or 2 in this case.
One of the most meaningful pieces of advice I've ever gotten came from Jake the Dog on Adventure Time: "Sucking at something is the first step towards getting sorta good at something."
Also, The Matrix came out in March 1999. As a teenager, that felt like how my dad talked about Star Wars was for him in 1977. Blew my mind.
Truth. Also, the Lord of the Rings Trilogy for those a few years younger.
thats such an on point analogy, good thinking dude!!
I get it. Not even close though.
There was a moment in 1999 when three iconic movies were in the movies at the same time, viz: Star Wars Episode 1, The Matrix, and The Mummy.
Except the matrix sequels were absolute disasters.
When it comes to the common feeling of "if I start now, it'll be years before I'm any good" common to starting new hobbies or creative ventures, I tend to fall back on a mode of thought that has served me well. Imagine yourself 3 or 4 years from now, NOT having started it. You'll just be 3 or 4 years down the road, and be just as bad (or nonexistent) at it. The time passes anyway. Use it.
This may not work for everyone, but it's helped me get started on so many things.
Yup. This exact rationale is what got me started drawing and 3D modeling in my mid to late thirties. I'm in my early 40's now and I'm good enough to Sketch, design and model things I actually like! I'm so glad I just got started.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago.
The second best time is today.
A similar reasoning happened when I asked my dad whether he thought I should get my master’s degree. He said that in three years I would be three years older and either I would have the degree or not. I decided to have the degree. Still paying on it, but couldn’t do the job I have now without the training I got from grad school.
Neural plasticity is important. I've been wanting to become good at visual art, off and on, for decades now. I'm thinking of seeing how much I can improve if I meditate before and after practice.
"Time passes anyway. Use it." needs to be on stickers, t-shirts, bulletin boards, mugs, etc. etc.
I'm 56 now and i just started to make Dioramas, Models and Miniatures. It's never too late.
Excellent. I just started picking up Warhammer miniatures. I have no interest in the game - just the figures. I haven't gotten to putting them together or painting them yet, but things are percolating in my brain (how to display, store, etc.). Just painted a Grogu-in-egg Christmas ornament to get myself into the mindset. It was silver-colored and not meant to be painted, but I wanted it to look like it did in Mandalorian. First try out of the gates isn't perfect, but I like how it looks. And it's one step towards tackling the minute details of the Warhammer figs. Hope your foray into miniatures is going well, too!
"It’s never too late for now" Pete Hornberger
I'm 44 and just started building gunpla. I've never read or seen any gundam media, and I don't even like most anime. I just pick models that I think look neat.
I'm 53, and I have a 3D printer. I use it a lot. Need shelves for all the doodads.
when your young trial and error is sort of a joy to go through, but you also tend to ignore advice and avoid asking questions that could save you much of that time. A good question will go a long way.
Back when I was a professional model builder (did that for 25 years); if we had a job where we had to make multiple objects that were exactly the same, we'd always make two extra -- the client then got the best copies. Invariably, the first one completed was almost never supplied to the client.
In university I had the same problem. I'd do an assignment then help others, and then look back at mine and realise it was the worst one
“As your island of knowledge grows, so does your shore of ignorance”.
Also, be careful of the tides called "others' opinions". Some are beneficial, others are not.
Adam is so right about effects. Fellowship of the Ring, a 3 hour fantasy film, has something like 570 VFX shots. Each Hobbit film had well over 2,000. Fast and the furious movies have over 1000 shots. More than a 3 hour fantasy film, it’s insane.
Agreed. Also, HOW the effects shots are used plays a big part. Mad Max: Fury Road also had 2000 effects shots, but it wasn't like being hit in the face with a hammer the way they were in The Hobbit. They were often blended better with practical effects in Mad Max: Fury Road.
@@gothpunkboy89 The barrel thing is not from the fellowship of the ring movies.
@@gothpunkboy89 well, if it doesnt look right then maybe....don't do it? It is the worst moment in film 2 of The Hobbit trilogy.
It's also not just the sheer number of special effects but the busyness of every scene these days: the pacing of an action scene is faster and bigger and crammed with details and swooping camera paths that honestly makes a lot of films exhausting to watch. You even see it in Wallace and Gromit in A Matter of Loaf and Death.
Doesn't fast and furious also just have a billion shots?
The Phantom Menace is a very special movie for me. In 1999 I started a new career and my treat with my first paycheck was to go and see this movIe.
I rarely ever got to see movies so this was an amazing experience. I’ll always remember the awe I felt when they entered the underwater city. It blew my mind!
Another good part of building things 3 times: When building the second one you'll overcorrect for mistakes you made in the first one. Like the first one might be too flimsy, but the second one ends up being too heavy. The third one finds some sort of balance.
When learning a new skill. Failure is always an option
We learn more by failing than succeeding!
Not an option but the way to success!
Learn to enjoy the process, rather than getting hung up entirely on the end results.
@@silverXnoise Exactly! Each failure you learn something new and that joy of discovery is the real deal!
Heehee, nice throwback quote.
In regard to the making 3 times, I did this during Covid with wooden benches. I was so surprised by the incremental difference between the first and second, second and third. Highly recommend
I love the feeling of starting a new hobby. It is so fun to shoot up the learning curve of being a beginner.
“In the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert’s there are few”
― Shunryu Suzuki, Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind
Excellent Suzuki quote. I also like his discussion of the Monkey Mind, also in Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind.
When I first started learning to be a Science Communicator, I hated deadlines. “How can I ever get this done,” mixed in with a lot of procrastination, of course.
Now I LOVE deadlines. When I started writing columns for an online publication, I told the publisher and editor MY self-imposed deadlines (which they did not require), to stop me from research-edit-repeat forever.
At some point, “it’s as good as it’s gonna get, time to move on.” Some of my “I’m out of time, and this is a piece of doo-doo” articles were praised by readers the most. Others that I spent WAY too many months on were like dropping a pebble into the ocean. You never can tell.
Adam: thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU for your videos. I’ve learned a lot, and learned that I’m not some kind of weirdo. Invaluable.
Title of content: Star Wars Preqeals
Actual content: some of the most profound advice you could hear about making.
This is why I always click and watch even if the title doesn't grab me. I'm not a starwars fan, but I know the content of the video will still be insightful
When bait-and-switch is a _good_ thing.
things that never should have been made : Star Wars Prequels
And life
Thank you for saying it so I don't have to :)
Thank you Adam. I've been searching for a way to explain to my 10 year old that it's okay to fail and try not to be fearful of the process even though everyone feels that fear. This is a way to prove to his metric driven. Mind a way that there is progress immediately. Such a simple idea but amazingly powerful and one that's is overlooked. Thank you
There's a saying. One should build three houses in your life. The first one for an enemy, the second one for a friend and the last one for yourself. Perfectly catching what you're saying.
I'm 69. Four years ago I took on 3D printing. Not just printing geometry from Thingiverse but the whole designing from scratch, teaching myself Fusion 360 CAD, Cura and then Prusa slicer. Fighting (and understanding) my Ender 3 and then my Artillery Sidewinder X2 and so much wasted filament. So many parts that didn't fit together. So many iterations. Making is thinking, I don't like crosswords or word searches but my 3D printers and my CAD software are my touchstones. Never be afraid of failure. Making is life, and hopefully keeps the brain rot at bay.
BTW, it was a long time ago. the TV pilot of Babylon 5 had more than 330 VFX shots in it. We pushed those Amigas very hard.
So much Toasted Video! Very cool. Ah the old days when you needed a workbench disk.
About trying things 3 times: I have found personally with model painting if I'm painting multiple of the same/similar models I see improvement between the 1st and 2nd models, but often a drop off on the 3rd or 4th since the increase in competency is counteracted by a decrease in focus and enthusiasm because it's less new and exciting.
Did you build all the versions one after another, or did you space them out in time?
@@seanstoyroom7274 typically a bit of both, paint 2 or 3, come back paint another 2, and so one. Yeah, part of it is fatigue, but often by the 5th it's harder for me to care as much about the little details.
I find that focusing the mind on something else, like background music, can help get the judgmental momentary mind out of the way, so rather than reflecting on the totality of the project, you can just flow and do each individual step. Like just giving your brain over to flow state in order to silence the judgment of “ugh this is the 6th one, here we go again”
Honestly, Adam should just start wearing some Jedi robes in his videos, because he casually drops too much sage advice not to.
Nah. The robes would probably get caught in the equipment.
At least WE know that he is a Jedi Master
They aren’t “Jedi robes”. They wore robes in Star Wars BECAUSE THEY WERE ON A DESERT PLANET!
@@jnnx At the risk of engaging with a troll, while it might have been true during the OG trilogy in the 70's, the Prequels took the robes and made them a part of the Jedi order... This isn't like... News?
@@jnnx I live in the desert (Colorado), and I wear 'em to cons.
I also make a quite convincing Jedi. Been told that by a few people. 😊
Did you ever hear the strategies of Darth Savage the Crafty? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Si- er, Myth legend.
I have a friend who took a stained glass class and their crowning project was a stained glass Calvin and Hobbs page
What a great idea
Major congrats on the stained glass!!!!!! I've been a stained glass artist since 1989. You are going to love it. Remember, it's less about the process, and more about the art in choosing the sheets of glass and where you are going to cut them to get the beauty you are looking for. I often spend 6hrs in a glass store just looking at all the sheets to choose the ones with the patterns in the glass I want. I'm in Bakersfield, CA.If you have any questions or would enjoy a mentor, I'd love to come over and help.
I was in the printing business for 18 years. At the third last place I worked, the Bosses went to a demonstration. A week later, they bought a little Apple computer that could really only draw the borders for a retail flyer we did regularly. The paste-up guys only had to stick the copy into the borders. I thought about that little Apple, and talked to some friends. A month or so after that first demo, I went home to my wife and said "I'm going to be out of a job in ten years."
It took about five.
As someone who went to college for stained glass. I have a few tips:
1. Here (NL) it is really frustrating when we hear people speak about stained glass while they mean Tiffany. Stained glass is glass in lead. Tiffany is glass in tape and soldered together. Different techniques, results and limitations.
2. A good exercise for cutting glass, lead and bringing it together is to make a checkerboard. Every glass piece is 1x1 cm. It is also a great thing to help set up your cutting table. Then you can see if your table is alligned or crooked. I do believe you can solder, but this is also great for that. So. Many. Points. When the college gave me the exercise I had to recut many times (Year one week 2 btw!) but also got a little bit high from soldering all the points hahah.
3. To learn sharp lines in glass in lead, I would recommend making a square as an outline and then just draw random lines. Wiggly lines. This will also help you to create a blueprint that you can transfer on the glass and how cutting from a panel efficiently can go. Carefull cause you will make sharp points. And they stab you,.,. A lot. Haha
Good luck and have fun! Cant wait to see the results :)
My advice for what its worth, set aside a regular weekly time slot for your project and stick to it. Do it literally right now, write it down, and dont excuse yourself from it. Thats it.
(Oh, and when I say that time slot is for the project, I mean that strictly. No mobile phone, no Internet unless its explicitly about the project, no distractions, just the project.)
Its simple, but it immediately eliminates all the questions and doubts about getting started. Doesnt matter what other people are doing, doesnt matter if you feel like its going to be rubbish, you work away in your allotted time regardless. Doesnt solve all the problems, youll still want to dodge doing stuff because it feels bad or tedious, youll still fail at things a whole bunch, but you stick to that time (At minimum, of course spend more time if you want to.) and good will come of it.
And this is sort of the same way Stephen King (the prolific writer) does his writing. He sits down and writes. Doesn't matter if he feels like it or not, that time is for writing, and he's going to do it.
Adam. You said many thing in this video that resonated deeply with me. I always wanted to work in special effects since I saw Star Wars in 1977 at age 13. Instead, I made a career in graphic design and now I paint as an artist exclusively for the past 12 years. With each painting, I learn a little more and my work improves incrementally. There is always more to learn and improve and that comes with doing the work and getting that practice. I love your work and your videos, Adam.
Saw all the originals in their original formats at the cinema. I was just a baby when Ep.4 was released but was lucky enough to see a re-screening at a drive cinema with my parent when Empire came out.
So quite literally a Star Wars fan my whole life. Sure, some movies are better than others, but I love seeing anything new that builds on this universe.
I don’t feel personally attacked if a movie doesn’t go in the direction I wanted and I’m just happy that this franchise is still going strong and something I can enjoy today with my own kids the way my parents did with me.
I saw the original Star Wars (A New Hope) at a drive-in when I was seven, and it was everything. I wanted that same feeling when A Phantom Menace came out. And I had it for the first 20 minutes before my 30yo brain started noticing issues. What had changed was me, Lucas was still making the movie for kids, but I had expected the storytelling to mature with me. What changed my mind about the quality was watching them with my seven yo son. He had the same delight I had, and seeing him jump up out of his seat while watching them for the first made me grateful that they were made.
Fair enough but Jar Jar Binks' existence is inexcusable.
7 year olds have no sense of taste
There is some truth to that, but I think the cultural impact of Star Wars (the first movie) was so huge that it belies that it was a movie made "for kids". Any movie coming after that trilogy would have a mountain to climb but I agree with Adam that George Lucas had too many tools and wanted to inject his changing ideals into the universe. Constraints make you creative and maybe George had listened to a little too much to the adoration his early movies gained him because he became something of a Dr. Frankenstein.
There are things to love about the Prequels, but most of them were either done better in other movies (pod racing) or were echos of things we already loved deeply. Also, I hate Midi-chlorians
The first prequel was an amazing movie, anyone who can't see that is an idot. JarJar was not the problem, the problem was grown men with delusional nostalgia, baseing their whole identity on a childhood memory of magical wizards in robes with laser pointers like it was a religion.
One of the sad things is he was capable of better. If you look at some of the deleted scenes, he cut out some great dialogue and left in crap like ‘I hate sand’
I was young enough to watch the Star wars prequels as a child. Years after that, I watch 4, 5, and 6, and it blew me away even more with how well they were made even decades before the prequels.
Yes, yes, and yes, to the makers advice. I first made theater weapons from chipboard and glue. The first iterations weren't pretty but got the job done. Did a second take on them, and made me more content with the outcomes. Transitioned to woodcarving and again, the first batch of a design was terrible. I made wooden practice knives for knife fight training. The second and third batches got better with each succeeding piece. Learned foam craft during the lockdowns and I got even better at the first two mediums with all the practice of a new material pushing me to learn and refine my grasps of the basics and the techniques I've used thus far.
Exactly like pancakes, the first couple are dialing in the process and the next dozen are testaments of your improving skills.
When taking on a new skill, you need to accept that it might not come out how you hope it will but you are going to learn a lot.
Last fall, I made a Death Star Advent Calendar out of cardboard. I had never build a sphere before, but I figured it wouldn't be all that complicated. It turned out to be a lot more challenging (a lot of math and stopping for planning), but it was a lot of fun and I learned a lot in the process.
Sometimes, you need to accept that the best part will be all of the experience that you will gain in the process.
Revenge of the Sith is my Favorite Star Wars film and I saw a new Hope in 1977.
I love your line of thinking about following your own advise.
You reiterated the parameters of the task of tackling a new skill, build it 3 times. You picked stained glass as the skill. You agreed to make it a video and be the test subject of your own advice and see what improvement you see in the builds. Well, of course, how else would you do it?
Love the videos and you and the whole Tested team.
The difference between the Star Wars prequels and sequels is that the prequels have a lot of issues, but there's still passion and imagination behind them. Instead of trying to just be the originals again, they dared to expand and reimagine what that universe can be. Both narratively and visually. That shows through in the long run, I think. Especially after series like Clone Wars have had time to build on that foundation.
I don't think the sequels will experience nearly the same Renaissance in 20 years because they were more interested in cashing in on what came before instead of having the same willingness to be something new.
@@SO-ym3zs 100%. Also, OG George Lucas wasn't immune to this either. Remember the Holiday Special or the Ewok movies? Crank out content to cash in rather than spend the time and effort to create something amazing.
Well at least the sequels didn't have offensive racist stereotypes, e.g. jar jar, the trade federation.
You’re projecting your racist stereotypes onto made up alien fantasies lol. Maybe that says more about you then the films and at least the Prequels didn’t sideline they’re “marketing advertisements”. They don’t have guys like John Boyega coming out saying how they felt like they were used and actually racist. Plus at least the prequels had diversification with alien races and aren’t as xenophobic as Disney continuing the oppression by having humans be the protagonists representing majority cultures at the expense of the oppressed minorities. Making the entire Resistance human based pretty much. One of the trilogies is racist yes, but it ain’t the prequels
Such a great saying at the beginning. The more you know, the more you realize how little you know. I think this is the perfect example of humility.
My grandfather used to tell me this all the time. And as a punk teenager I didn’t understand. Now I wish I had listened more.
So nine months ago I tried making this thing three times. Each time was better and it worked! It's a girl! We're so happy.
@@willv7868 Are you sure it was made properly? There’s so much leakage, and it’s making so much noise. The client may reject it and demand another.
Such a dad joke gosh damn it
That line from the Robots movie never gets old. "I missed the delivery!" "It's okay, making it is the fun part."
Great comments Adam about the hesitation and need to repeat a process. Taught myself how the make molds and create carbon fiber car parts. Now making a roof panel. That emboldened me to start welding to make speaker stands and now applying the same technique for a stair railing. Made a small scale prototype for each first. Throw away stuff but it works out the method and identified the pitfalls before you start the real thing. Keep learning and pushing yourselves, the results are worth the attempt. Cheers.
My problem is a short attention span. A multi day project is most likely going to be abandoned a couple days in, so I look at all these unfinished projects and my head full of ideas and it’s very discouraging. Usually it happens when I realize I’m missing tools or supplies, I put it aside until I can get the tools and it gets forgotten. Small projects, with tools I already own that can be made in less than a day I can handle.
I tend to not attempt projects that would take more than 2 week ends of work. If it takes longer, I might not finish it.
"Build it 3 times" is profoundly insightful, because it will focus and refine your process, and the better the process, the better the result. At the beginning of the 2nd and 3rd build, you have all the perspective of the previous build and can predict some of the pitfalls, and the changes you make in each build will also create new pitfalls you hadn't considered.
All these advises are valuable, I'd like to think this channel's name is actually "Adam Savage has Tested"
"Knowing more means you know what you don't know. " That statement has just given me the biggest moment of clarity in my adult life. It sums up the reason why I constantly learn more and more and head down so many rabbit holes.
Hate him or love him Henry Ford has one of my favorite quotes. I think it applies to Lex.
“Whether you think you can or think you can’t, you’re right”
Henry Ford predates Dunning-Kruger, we know better now.
@@koekum2142 Not sure why you think Dunning Kruger applies. Care to elaborate?
@@jamesmaybrick2001the less you know the more confident you are that you can (while you can't)
The more you know the more informed you are about facets you lack knowledge of (but might be fully capable of doing the job at hand)
@@koekum2142 But what does Henry Ford have to do with all that? I think you might just be overcomplicating a witicism to sound clever.
@jamesmaybrick2001 did you read the comment I replied to, or are you typing this to sound dumb? Because you are succeeding
Someone once described the original trilogy as being shown like a silent film but with mostly just music to move the story along from scene to scene. I believe the pacing and presentation of the 1st three is perfect. THAT'S why they inspired the pre and sequels. Plus, countless parodies, video games, tv series, merch , you name it. Star Wars would NOT have taken off if the prequels were the first ones shown in theaters. Practical effects are soooo important in films.
My second attempt is almost always worse than the first. When I think I know a little bit about something, that's when things go wonky. As they say "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing".
That's so unlucky man lol
Adam is so right about creating multiple versions of things! I scratchbuild historic model ships and it’s extremely common to have to make a part numerous times before you end up with the part that you’d envisioned. The skills and techniques you learn while doing this are sometimes shocking; it’s immensely satisfying to end up with a part in which you’ve struggled with at the start, but after trial/error/research, eventually developed to a high degree of quality.
Also… still within the model shipbuilding hobby… People new to the hobby who are nervous about their ability to build a U.S.S Constitution or H.M.S Victory for example, are strongly encouraged to build the easiest projects they can find first. Once they have succeeded in building the easy project (no matter how many times it takes), they can then carry the skills they’ve learned to their next build which can be a little more complex… and so on… Eventually, they will have the skills and confidence to build a large, complex model.
That's what I did with Model Cars: I had started with K.I.T.T., got stalled because of diffculty. So I went Back To The Future, literally, by building the 4 Deloreans(which were Skill Levels 1 and 2). Then I went back to K.I.T.T. a year later and it worked out well.
I have been creating things for years, not all of it was professional use, for work and some for me or my family. My process for doing something new where I feel I need to understand the complexity. I break my job down to components/steps. I then concentrate on the how to approach the new parts. Get to understand how to make that part work and then do the work to integrate the new part into the other aspects of the overall job. If possible I like to prototype the new work to help me get the process and interactions worked out. I have used this work effort breakdown for computer programming, wood working, metal and mechanical assemblies and recently for 3D printing designs and actual printing functions. I have added 3D design and printing a prototype to my process for my wood and metal work projects. I like doing this as it helps me work out design/fabrication issues before I start working with the final material. Love your channel. I hope you will be doing more of your builds. I really like to see how you tackle the concept -> design -> implementation process.
I am the same age and similar experience like Adam. I would say the more experienced you become, the less worried you become about what you dont know.
Time teaches you, that you can pull trough something, you know little about. 😊
1977 Star Wars (before it was "a New Hope") was such a magical film for me.. I couldn't get enough of it and fired up my imagination. But it's funny when ESB came out I found it didn't give me the same wonderment, and by the time RoTJ came out, it just felt like another movie. I had high hopes for the prequels but they fell flat.. and now the majority of the new content, well most is just pretty horrible to put it bluntly. At the end of the day I may have grown old at this point but it's still all about the original movie for me.
The first is special indeed. I always prefer it to the second.
One quote I always try to keep in mind when I start something is "Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway."
What sometimes discourages older people from changing career is the thought that young people have the edge because they've been doing it since they were young, but that's only like 10 years. You've got more experience than that in other things and 10 years isn't a long time. That's 10 years. Worth playing with friends and d****** about and getting drunk and discovering girls and maybe smoking a bit of weed? Now, You're older, more focused. More sure of yourself. It's not going to take you 10 years. All the skills you have acquired on the way will contribute to your new life in ways you wouldn't even believe.
Something I think worth mentioning for the first question is that most skills don't exist in a vacuum. Someone whose 40 something is likely bringing a huge amount of tacit knowledge and wisdom into a new skill that will have a carryover effect that a 20 something isn't going to have access to. I remember talking to some people that remembered how hard things like physics and math when they first went to college, but say 10 or 15 years later got advanced degrees and commented about how easy those subjects became later in life and wondered why it was so hard back then, and I believe it has a lot to do with our ability to simply think and process information improves as you live and gain experience.
2:18 I really REALLY wish that was always the case, but I've managed to find ways to screw it up lol
I can draw parallels with the opening question about learning a new skill later in life with my journey learning audio production and mixing. Adam's advice is spot on. In addition, I'd add that quantity and variety is important. Repeat, repeat sharpens the core skill, variety slowly widens the application of the skill too. Critically.... If you can get into a mindset where you can embrace the learning side simply for the sake of it, it'll help stop you getting disheartened and unfavourably comparing your own journey to others. And don't be afraid to walk away from a single item for a while when you can't get it to where you want. Persistence is difference from bashing your head off a wall
I love the prequels! I was born in the mid 90s so they are the Star Wars I grew up with. That said I also like the Original Trilogy. Clone Wars 2008-2020 also helps to flesh out the prequels.
If you need a tv show to make your movie make sense, you failed at that movie.
I mean, like what you like, obviously, and don't let anybody ever tell you your Like is wrong!
@@ClintonAllenAnderson if they left in Darth JarJar; I'd appreciate them more; I think people finding him a goofy joke would've made the payoff that much better when you looked back and saw him manipulating things that whole movie that most looked over. But hey; people complain, things change, that is life.
I was 12 when the first one came out and dad let me skip school. It was fine.
Born in 1986 so I was 12 when I saw phantom menace and I knew something was wrong, that was like the stone that caused the slow leak in my love of star wars, if my love of star wars in this metaphor was a big tyre. The second one was the pot hole that finished it off.
@user-zp4ge3yp2o Maybe you were just not a happy child. I was 12 and I had fun the day it came out.
I cannot tell you how many times I've had to scrap something and redo it multiple times until i was satisfied.
I gave Adam a copy of the book I wrote , which went through 4 rewrites.
It's not about being the best, it's about being better than the last time you made the attempt.
I know it's hard to believe this, but you are enough. Every step you take toward the next complete project makes you more than were before that step.
When the prequel series came out, we only had the original trilogy for comparison so they looked bad. Now we have the sequel trilogy and by comparison the prequels look fantastic.
Hard disagree. The sequels are dumb fun. The prequels are dumb and zero fun.
Adam, you have been an inspiration to me ever since I first watched Mythbusters so many years ago. Your views and advice on learning and being creative has kept me going for all these years. You are a legend, and you have my utmost respect!
Re: The prequels, I also feel like that in the first three episodes George Lucas was just the every-day-guy director the actors could talk to and discuss plot and dialogue with. I remember Carrie Fisher saying "George, nobody talks like that" and consequently things would be made more demonstrably better. Carrie had a hand in script rewrites for both Empire and Return, making them stronger movies.
Fast forward to the creation of the prequels, George Lucas is now a HUGE celebrity, and the writing and directing seem to go largely unchecked. Lucas does what he wants, and, let me just say, Carrie Fisher could have helped them a whole lot. It reminds me of Robert Heinlein saying that he wanted to get famous enough he wouldn't have to put up with editors. Well, he did get famous enough, and didn't deal with editors, and, unfortunately, it showed. This was the fate of the Star Wars prequels.
What do you mean? She was an uncredited script doctor on the first two Prequels actually. She actually loved them. She also didn't have much of a hand on the script with the Originals. Besides, the dialogue is consistent across all six films. Check out Everytime Star Wars Quotes Star Wars on here. George doesn't use dialogue like most filmmakers as he's a visual filmmaker versus a literary filmmaker. It's more an emotional anchor that accommodates the visuals to convey tone. Star Wars is meant to be a silent film.
The best Star Wars movie is Empire. And Lucas didn't direct that one. The sad truth is that he's really not that great of a director. He has definitely been a part of some VERY great movies, but they're great in spite of his direction, not because of it.
The key element that made Lucas successful early in his career was his humility. He surrounded himself with people that knew better than he did and he let them work. In the prequels, though, he overdirected. The overall plot of those movies is fantastic, but the execution of it is... poor. Part of the problem, I think, is that he tried to infantilize the entire thing rather than trying to tell the best possible story.
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False. He gave Irvin Kershner guidelines in how Empire was to be shot. Just like Richard Marquard on Jedi. Both were hired directors like television where the executive producer or showrunner oversees everything. George also did many of the visual effects scenes and edited on both. He also had the majority of Empire written before Lawrence Kasdan even came into the picture. Kasdan's biggest contribution was mostly polishing it. Most of the iconic lines such as "No, I am your father", "I am not a committee", and "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter" are directly from George.
He was just as collaborative on the Prequels. Jonathan Rinzler debunked this narrative before he passed away.
So, what you're saying is actually false narrative fanfiction and not based on anything true. He stayed the same man of humility he always was during the Prequels and throughout his entire career. You should look into how George actually makes his films. Likewise at the cast and crew on the Prequels and see how many of them have gone on to be part of some of the more iconic films of the last two decades. The crews he hired were always people he trusted and respected. Many of whom returned from the old days.
Or as Peter Diamond put it:
"Irvin obviously had fixed ideas with what he wanted to do, but he was still double checking with George whether it would fit in with what he had in mind. Richard was exactly the same. I had worked with Richard before, fortunately. But George was the guy; it was his vision entirely."
@@zoetropeguardian That was a giant straw man. I didn't say Lucas had no hand in those films. I didn't say he was a bad writer. I didn't say he was a bad producer.
I said he was a poor director. And you can see that, especially in the prequels. For instance, he had a phenomenal cast, and they all turned in some of the worst performances of their careers.
@@MrMagnaniman
It wasn't to "straw man" but point out context and debunk what you said of his earlier films being good in spite of him.
What are you talking about? The acting in the Prequels is great. It's based on 1930's and 40's theatrical acting versus method acting that is the common practice today. George prefers the old style. People are just so conditioned by the modern style that they can't see the difference.
Some of the best stuff I’ve done started off rescuing a mistake. Sometimes the ‘mistake’ was the discovery of how the material worked that opened up loads more possibilities. The fun is discovering techniques inspired by watching stuff like this 👍🏻
Mistakes or failures in a hobby or creative process can be eye-opening and fun if you stay open-minded and humble and willing to learn.
8:20 When graphic design opened up, everything looked like a ransom note for a while
General advice to this Mate. I have been making model kits sense I was eight. Took a break when I went into the US Navy. I have sitting on my 'I Love Me' shelf the first model I ever build myself. It looks like ... well crap. I now with the years sense honed the craft, scratch build and never look back. What is the best ad vice I can offer. Never Be Afraid of the next step! I also have four models of the Enterprise NCC-1701 from then and now. I love all four but the last one is not the pride and joy it is the first built when I was twelve.
Make it, break it and make it again. In time there will be a shelf of your own collection. That first one will always be your favorite.
Each Star Wars is in it self a master peace of the things to come. Never question the Solo wisdom ... I know.
Peace.
I think the backlash has to do with mainly two things.
The first generation for a long time wasn't able to adapt to the fact that George continued to make the stories for kids. And two, because people feel a sense of ownership over Star Wars. People are critical because they think George should have told his stories the way they wanted him to tell it. It doesn’t work that way. All art that can be said to be created by one voice doesn’t work that way. Star Wars was a means of personal expression for George. What George wanted it to be was very different from what fans thought it should be. They don't look at these things for what they are but what they think they should be. It's a classic case of loving the idea of something versus loving something for what it actually is. This happens so much with Star Wars and it creates so many misconceptions about the actual meanings behind the films, George, and the creative process behind the making of them.
George's entire filmography is consistent but you wouldn't know that by the way people talk about him. Take Attack of the Clones for example, it's his coming full circle film as it has nods to his student films, American Graffiti, THX 1138, and Young Indiana Jones. You can make many connections between these various projects as he plays with many of the same issues in the film, and all of his films, but that requires figuring out what they are and knowing why he'd make the connection. People can't be bothered to engage with it on these terms but what they think it should be. It creates a disconnect between the artist and audience. Likewise the dialogue is consistent across his career, in particular with Star Wars. Check out Everytime Star Wars Quotes Star Wars on here. You can see just how deep it goes. He doesn't use dialogue like most filmmakers as it's more of a way to convey tone to accommodate the visuals. Star Wars is meant to be seen as a silent film.
George is an immensely talented filmmaker, one of the all-time greats, who is greatly misunderstood and underappreciated. It makes me really sad as I think if people could meet him on his terms and not their own preconceptions they'd see something far more special than they can wrap their heads around. I miss him and his storytelling so much. However, like everything you have to let go at some point as nothing stays the same.
You left out the fact that many people had a problem with jar jar, gungans and the trade federation being offensive racial stereotypes.
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It's projection on their part. Star Wars under George was always inspired by other cultures and appreciation for them. The Tusken Raiders in the very first, and subsequent films, Star Wars made are inspired in part by Native Americans for example in their design. Likewise Greedo's voice is a rare African language. George never once had ill intentions when doing these things and the ones you mentioned. He told stories that borrowed from cultures and mythology across the world as a way of making his story more tangible and real. It certainly worked as it's a series loved the world over. Ahmed Best, who plays Jar Jar, has gone on record in saying that his voice was also one he did for his baby cousins. He's also very candid and outspoken about real racism. How people can twist these things in the context of George's stories to mean something different from what they actually are is beyond me. He's not a malicious person.
People say the prequels were made for kids, but I don't think that's true.
The plot revolves around some pretty complicated politics, and I have yet to meet an adult in real life that disliked the prequels regardless of their age.
@@austinbaccus George said from the beginning Star Wars was made for kids. It's also always had politics at the core of its story. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp? Also, the hate for the Prequels in some corners of the internet is overblown and not an accurate reflection of how the narrative has changed or how the general audience feels about them.
I truly appreciate creators that show the ENTIRE process of creating something. There are so many social media posts about the successful completion of the project. But they never show their mistakes, missteps, failures, or the rest of the process that happens. Especially when doing something for the first time. It's a larger issue of Social Media that everything is moderated and curated before it's posted, so the poster appears in the best light, or in exactly some situation that does not represent the reality of the situation. Everyone that is a "master" of some skill has failed. It's by failure that we really learn.
I came here though for Adam's opinion the the prequels. I agree that they are masterful exercises in technical movie making. In many ways they were groundbreaking cinema. But they were also 1000% George's babies. There was no one to push back on his editing, writing, or direction. For the originals, there were plenty of people that had a say in the final product and could challenge Lucas if they knew a way to make it better. The good and the bad of Star Wars was magnified in these movies. IMO on their own, they don't stand up very well over time. The scope is just too grand. We miss out on the dynamics which led Anakin to become Vader. It just kinda happens somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd movies. The Clone Wars TV show fills that in. It makes the movies make sense. Without it being a part of a lot of kid's growing up, I don't think the prequel movies would be remembered as fondly as they are. Especially as the show went on and improved vastly season over season.
Honestly, it's the editing. I remember back in college someone put together a recut of the trilogy and it made it so much better.
That is incredible advice! Make something 3 times. I fix things, and when I tell myself that it will take me 3 tries to fix this issue, it is so motivating and liberating to tackle the repair. This can’t be underestimated
At my job I didn’t even call myself a Junior Designer until five years. After 40 years it drives me INSANE hearing a kid a month in call themselves a designer. “No, you’re a Draftsperson!”
I've been playing bass on and off for a few years, try to keep playing some per week. After all this time I barely call myself a bass player, I still think I'm an absolute beginner. Whether that's true or not, I don't wanna make the call.
Agreed
Yep, until we learn how to couch the question and define the requirements, it's just joining the dots. I'm still a bit green at 35 years working (most of it self employed) and still get the 'gulp' moment. I guess it's bravura over experience for them?
@@SeanSMST If you can make the time for it, find a drummer to play with from time to time. You'll feel better about your playing pretty quick. Really quick if they're a good drummer. And if they're just a guy who owns a drum kit... well, maybe they'll improve.
Love the three-times advice. My experience with new projects has always been build it, tear it all apart, then build it right (or at least better).
The appeal of the very first Star Wars as first released in 1977 came from a relatively straightforward "good guys" vs "bad guys" classic hero's journey (Luke), with a somewhat bad-ass damsel-in-distress. Most of the familiar characters are archetypes, and the movie was a bit a of a roller-coaster ride balanced with quieter, introspective moments. Much of the Star Wars universe came without need to explain anything... e.g. "the Force". IHMO the prequels came up short in part because some of the essential plot development in Phantom Menace (political maneuvering in and out of the senate chamber) got a bit too slow and convoluted, some of the action scenes were a bit too frenetic, elements of the pod race failed to maintain "suspension of disbelief". For that matter, many of the digital effects scenes broke disbelief because I think they went too far in one way or another. And don't get me started on Jar-Jar.
Amen. I'd have been thrilled if Jar Jar had never been conceptualized at all.
You all fail to realize how INNOVATIVE jar jar and other aspects were which led the way to so many of today’s films. You took death maul and got offended by jar jar. Then you claim you loved 3pio when there were many during the 1st release of episodes 456 who HATED the humor and the droids etc . Y’all are just so fickle.
@GyvonJante But you're aggregating the individual preferences of different people and calling them "fickle ". If I like something but someone else doesn't like it it doesn't make either of us fickle. It would be disengenuos to dismiss audience likes and dislikes by criticizing said audience , instead of the films themselves.
@@GyvonJante I love the fact that all these HACKS think they know better than George Lucas.
@@GyvonJante The problem with jar jar isn't just that he was a dumb character, which he was, but that he and the gungans and the trade federation were racist stereotypes.
I'm a software engineer with 45 years exp, the last 27 of it building spacecraft.
WE build things 3 times - Engineering/Development unit (EDU), Qualification unit, Flight unit. Skip one of those and you're in for a rough time...
EDU: resolve the 'known unknowns' (you know you don't know how to do it) and the 'unknown knowns' (you didn't know you needed it, but you know how to do it), and find the 'unknown unknowns'
QUAL: you built the EDU out of non-flight parts, now build it out of flight components and figure out the differences (mostly more 'unknown knowns' - I know how to fix this, I just didn't know I needed to...). You'll end up fixing a LOT of stuff in software that the hardware guys didn't think of!! 😁
FLIGHT: rebuild the QUAL unit but for real this time, incorporating all the changes you found in QUAL.
I would do the same thing with a piece of furniture - EDU: build it out of scrap (pine?) and learn the new techniques you need QUAL: rebuild it in a consistent species of hardwood, but don't expect it to be good enough to put in your house or sell. FLIGHT: build it for real out of what you really want.
I felt the prequels were totally unnecessary because everything was adequately explained in the original trilogy. I also feel that the mystery of Vader's descent into the dark side is what made his character so intriguing.
I think this advice is great for many different disciplines. For example, I recently replaced all the drawer slides in my kitchen with soft-close slides. The first one I did, I followed the directs, measured everything out, etc. The second one, I got a scrap piece of wood that I drilled holes in and marked up to use as a template for the rest of the drawers. The first one took a good 45 minutes. The second, including time to make the template, took around 30 minutes. All subsequent drawers took around 15-20 minutes, and required almost no adjustments, unlike the first two.
I know that's not really the same as making, but the whole "incremental improvements through repetition" angle holds up.
Am i the only Star Wars fan that loved the prequels from the first time seeing?
They were the Star wars I grew up with só I love them, even inspite of their flaws
I grew up with them. So I feel the same!
A big part of it is what you grew up with. I know folks who love them dearly because that's what they watched as kids, whereas for my generation, who grew up with the originals, most of us at best tolerate the prequels, at worst despise them. They felt like an enormous step backwards at the time.
I saw the OT as a child, so the prequels as an adult. I like the prequels a little less, but I don't think anything could match the OT. The sequels are another step down but there's still a lot that I like.
My favorite, of all the films and TV shows, is Rogue One. (I haven't much of the recent shows.)
Watched all these films in 2020 and I think the Prequels are pretty clearly the strongest part, yes there are issues but I find there are more issues with the originals. For every Anakin-Padmé romance there's a Han-Leia romance.
Ultimately I love all of the original six movies. I don't pretend they're perfect but I think they're deeply interesting and layered and there's incredible storytelling throughout.
The three build example is what I have been using for the last few years. It works great when developing a new skill. The improvement between each work is noticeable and the confidence it provides in your abilities is worth the time spent.
When it comes to Star Wars I think the prequels are fine. You can criticize the story and characters all you want, but it added more content to the canon which is a good thing to play off in the future. Which is also my biggest complaint about the newest movies: they are just rehashing content in the Star Wars universe over and over again without adding much of value. Give us new planets, locations, lore, aliens. And when George Lucas denounced all the third-party Star Wars stuff'a lore it really killed the interest in the universe for me.
I'd love an animated adaptation of the Yuuzhon Vong war.
im almost 50 and i have been making since i was about 7 and im still learning new skills and tricks. i watch videos like these all the time and always learn something new with each new project. i just recently got a desktop laser and will soon be getting a 3d printer and im finding interesing ways to use them on foam and acrylic and mdf...
"2 women can make a baby and the force isn't real"
-The Acolyte
RIP Star Wars
Totally agree!
When ever I have a bad day I get home from work and watch your channel and it always brightens my afternoon thank you Adam and the tested crew
I adore the tech and different factions of the prequels. The droids especially have so many cool and unique vehicles and weapons. It all felt very new, but still like it all belonged to Star Wars.
I'm 49 and just started making 3d printed props. I made a Battlestar Galactica helmet, it went in the bin. Lessons were learned and the next one will be better. I spent weeks printing the parts, sanding and filling before realising it was a hot mess and unsalvageable but I learnt so much and the next one is already better. I think I will make a third one just to test Adam's idea!
It's 3 movies of essentially over the shoulder shot of 2 people talking, filmed infront of a green screen repeated.
"Local man hates movie with VFX and dialogue. More at 11".
I hand-made a pair of belt loops a couple days ago, to replace worn-out ones on a Utilikilt that I've been patching up. Completely hand-stitched, and guided entirely by my own intuition. I don't have a ton of sewing experience, this is something I've only recently been getting into. I made them separately, back-to-back, and the second one is noticeably better than the first. I gave more thought to how to stitch it in an effective way that more closely replicated the look of the originals, and there was an immediate improvement. If I were to make a third one, it would probably look like the second one, but done a little more cleanly. I'm with Adam on the "make three of the same thing" advice, it immediately resonated with that experience.
What amazed me about the Prequels, happened with the RECENT movies (even TV shows): I realized, no matter who wrote, directed, created them...NONE felt like LUCAS had his fingerprint in it. I learned not to expect a Lucas experience. And a larger takeaway: you can give someone the artist's brushes, paints, easels, pencils, studio, canvases, etc. but they will never be the artist they came from.
Lucas is 80+ years old. It is extremely unlikely that his hand will be in any future Star Wars. Do not expect a Lucas experience ever again. What comes from the artist IS the artist.
Very good advice, especially the part about the more you know the more you find out you don't know, I spent a couple decades welding as a profession, and by thd end I was always stunned by how much more I could have learned about it.
This is such amazingly sound advice. Love what you’re doing now👍
When ever I teach someone Excel, their first spreadsheets always look like Electronic ransom notes with 20 colors and 15 different fonts.
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Almost 60. Started woodturning 2017. Started blacksmithing 2020. Never too late. Never too old. If it brings you joy, do it.
I never thought that there was backlash against the prequels. Backlash implies that something was received really positively at first, and then a flood of negativity came. The prequels earned a negative reputation almost from the start.
Now, I do think that the *first* prequel got backlash, because I remember camping out overnight with a huge crowd in the theater parking lot to see it at the first showing, and we all liked it. It wasn't perfect, but it was the first new Star Wars in *ages*, and we were willing to cut it some slack. Nobody *hated* Jar Jar yet. Certainly nobody was being critical of Jake Lloyd. We all liked the movie, and were curious to see where they'd go with the story.
Unfortunately, where they went with it was a mediocre actor playing a whiny teen getting grumpier and grumpier until he commits mass murder, all while spouting some of the worst dialogue we'd heard in ages. Not helping was the fact that there were some *really slow* parts to the second and third movies. There was also little done to conceal the kid marketing and toy tie-ins.
Another problem is names. Lucas should not be allowed to name characters, especially villains. Darth Maul? Why Maul? Because it sounds cool. Mauling someone sounds badass. But it's an English word. It doesn't make sense for "a long time go in a galaxy far, far away". Darth Sidious? Just as bad. Obviously a shortening of Insidious, because it sounds evil. But it only sounds evil in English. And then there are the stupid names. Count Dooku? How are we supposed to take that character seriously? Droopy McCool? McAnything makes no sense. Mc is a cultural thing firmly rooted on Earth. Elan Sleazebaggano? Really? And unfortunately, with the precedent set, the Star Wars universe is now *filled* with characters with stupid names that make no sense for a galaxy that has never heard of Earth.
And finally, there were the droid questions. Such as, at what point was their memory wiped? Because C-3PO should have recognized the Skywalker name, and R2D2 should have recognized both Obi-Wan and the Skywalker name. Also, when did R2D2 break down and not get repaired? He never had jump jets before. Now years before he suddenly does? That could have been really useful at various points in the original trilogy. Is that somehow lost tech, when other tech seems to be advancing? Now, I haven't watched all of the TV shows, so maybe there were some answers there, but if there are I am not aware of them.
The end result was that while we enjoyed the first one, we were disappointed by the prequel trilogy as a whole, and found the second and third movies hard to sit through the first time, and painful to rewatch. I agree with Adam, they're visually gorgeous. But Star Wars needs to do more than just look good.
Anakin WAS a whiny strongheaded teen that was the weakness which led him down the path to the dark side.
and the c3po got his memory wiped at the end of episode 3, so, no, he wouldn't recognize the Skywalker or Kenobi names. and R2 keeps his own counsel. the jump jets WERE a poor decision, though.
and if you want to talk about names - what about han SOLO?
@@kenbrown2808 It wasn't that he was a whiny teen that was the problem. It was that he was a whiny teen with terrible dialogue portrayed by a mediocre-at-best actor.
Han Solo is only a bad name retroactively. There are actual people with the last name of solo. Having him be retcon assigned the name decades later in the Solo movie because he was alone at the time was just stupid, though.
It also doesn't make much sense. It's not even a "it's translated from whatever language they're using to English" thing. Solo is Spanish.
@@stevensauer8539 and you complained that a galaxy far far away shouldn't have names that have double meanings in english. yet that has been a convention from the beginning.
and as for Hayden Christiansen's performance - you are just assuming he was a bad actor because you didn't like Anakin being a whiny teen with "bad dialogue" and yes, there's an argument that Lucas IS terrible at dialogue, but the truth is that Hayden did EXACTLY the acting job that was needed to make anakin EXACTLY the flawed person who fell to the dark side.
and why Yoda hesitated to train Luke, who ALSO started out as a whiny teen with bad dialogue.
and yeah, the Solo movie was a terribly written abomination that ignored EVERYTHING in pre-disney canon. you have a valid complaint, there.
@@kenbrown2808 Yes, stupid names has been a convention since the beginning. Proof that from the get-go Lucas was terrible at names. However, in the first movie, the names in general could be explained as translations. "Skywalker" was whatever their language had for those words. Same with "Darklighter". They weren't parts of *our* words chosen because they sound a certain way. On the other hand, names like "Sidious" and "Plagueis" are just bad writing. At least with "Maul" and "Bane" you can again say well that's just what they translate as. But Darth Maul wasn't named that when he became a sith, he was born as Maul. A baby named either "big crushing weapon" or "to physically seriously damage someone or something", depending on which meaning of maul you use. Which either way again puts it in the realm of bad writing.
I'm not assuming Hayden was a bad actor, I'm stating that he was a mediocre-at-best actor, and has been in everything I've ever seen him in. There's a difference between a mediocre actor and a bad one.
Putting "bad dialogue" in quotes doesn't change the fact that it was bad dialogue. And no, a more skilled actor could have brought much more nuance to the role, and made it something worth watching instead of something to endure.
Yes, Luke whined when he first appeared. But he wasn't anywhere near as bad as teen Anakin, nor was his dialogue in even the same league as Anakin's when it comes to bad dialogue. In fact, I'd say only a line here and line there were questionable, rather than the entire thing being just bad. But I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that Anakin being terrible is excusable because the original Star Wars was a bad movie, too? Because that seems to be your point, yet we know it's not true.
I get it, though, I do. You grew up on the prequels. They're a part of your cultural identity, and critique of them makes you feel like that identity is being attacked, so you're willing to overlook the flaws, or try to justify them. But any objective viewer is going to see the same flaws in the prequels that I do. In fact, many, many have.
I grew up on the original trilogy. I know what good Star Wars looks like. Episodes 2 and 3 are not it.
"George Lucas should never be allowed to name characters"
He named Darth Vader
That is very good advice. When I was still a beginner at coding I decided to take on a big personal project. A project that was way out of my comfort zone and something I knew that I wouldn't be able to do perfectly. I, however, surprised myself even though the final project had its flaws. Then I decided to start from scratch, using a different approach and architecture, and the final project was much better. Then I rewrote the same app from scratch again, and after that I felt I had a pretty good grasp on it.
I see all 6 Star Wars movies from George as being experimental, he was literally helping pioneering CGI. Also the phantom menace has the most practical sets of any Star Wars movie
And that's part of the problem, too many locations, visual styles of each ship/planet etc. also practical set does not mean no effects
@@TimSheehanit’s not a problem, it actually helps. Star Wars is supposed to be vastly different. Each planet is different in their own unique way, and they all feel full of life and visually shocking
When I was a young development engineer and was struggling, I had this amazing old school German boss who would tell me these analogies. Onetime he said Joe when you build a house the first is for your enemy, the second one is for a friend and the third house is yours. It kind of fits with what you started talking about.
I have grown to appreciate the prequels
IN COMPARISON TO WHAT CAME LATER
* laughs in GenX.
The prequels are way way worse than the recent pictures. And that is saying something, because the recent ones are not good at all.
@@meej33 finally someone who sees the truth! I can't stand prequel-lovers pretending like their trilogy is far better than the sequels, pot meet kettle
I don’t get that. The prequels ruined the back story of Star Wars. The sequels squandered opportunities. One doesn’t make the other better. At least the acting in the sequels was good. Outside of Ewan and the Emperor, there wasn’t a single good performance in the prequels.
basic @ss take
the prequels are so, so good, compared to the slop we got recently
Rogue one beats out the prequels
@@fellow5-j2q It was good, I just felt like it had no charm like the prequels did.
The sequels were far superior to the prequels. At the very least they didn't have offensive racist stereotypes, e.g. jar jar, the trade federation...
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You should watch Misogyny and Racism in Disney Star Wars on here. It's the exact opposite.
The statement at 0:37 is flat out wisdom. Very well said sir!
Without touching on the actual content in the films, both the Prequels and Sequels suffer from the same issue, in my opinion: They had adults trying to feel the same way they did when they were kids. The prequels had the OT fans, the sequels has the first-gen prequel fans, but in both cases, people who fell in love with something when they were 10, 12, 14 years old expecting the same feeling at 25, 30, 40 years old. The movies were not that drastically different from an execution point of view, but what had changed was the viewer and their world-view. And so many people can't grasp that. They wanted that childlike joy again, and when they didn't get it, they blamed the filmmakers rather than reflecting on themselves.
So you’re blaming the fan base? Now I’ve heard it all. They were vastly different. The OT movies were filled with swashbuckling and rogues. The prequels were crammed with politics, unlikeable characters, not great CGI, and a whining protagonist. Completely different feel.
I don't think that's the case.
I think the majority of original OT fans enjoyed Andor and Mandalorian.
But I've also yet to meet an adult who doesn't enjoy watching the prequels, so idk.
When I started tying fishing flies, I received similar advice from an old-timer. He told me to never make less than 6 of anything; the first one or two of the day will have mistakes even if it's a familiar pattern. And if they're all perfect (or close enough), you'll at least get quicker as you repeat the motions and save yourself switching time in the long run. He went on to say that when you try a new skill, pattern, material, etc., tie a dozen or more. Line them up as you make them and take a few moments to inspect before starting the next. The refinement will be most evident on the first few, but you will always find ways to make them even marginally better. Then keep the first and last of that run so your future self can see just how far you've come.
jar jar binks
Don't try it, Anakin! I have the higher ground!
I started crocheting in January and immediately jumped into making a blanket for my two children, my wife and myself and could see the improvement through the projects. Now I'm working on scarfs with the same results.
Prequels had really sh***y writing. Great special effects. The movies looked good - but without good story telling, they're lame.
I would take all three over the sequels…👏🏻😂 I agree though at the time not great.
The story of the sequels though is very good. Overlook some of the clunky dialog and you'll find them great.
Completely agree. I was offended by how lazy the writing was and how uninspired the acting was.
There's a difference in writing and dialog. Writing is story, dialog is the actual speaking and acting. The dialog in the prequels was indeed not good. But the overall writing of the story was great.
For every skill I have in life, my adage is....."I know enough to know I don't know enough." Keeps me humble and keeps me learning every day.
The McElroy Brothers always say something that sticks with me. When talking about starting a podcast or anything, accept that the first time you do it, it's going to suck. And what's amazing is, unless it's something that's being live broadcast, you get to store it away and never show anyone if you don't want to. But that act of taking the first step can be so scary and you can have such high expectations for yourself that adjusting your mindset is the most powerful tool.