It almost doesn't matter which you pick, the X cpus can be put in eco mode to match the settings of the non X cpus while the non X cpus can turn on PBO and match the X counterparts. No locked parts here, just a small price difference and different default options.
I find it hard to believe AMD released the same CPU for cheaper so that they could earn smaller profit margins from some consumers. There's no reason to do that.
@@cube-nite no the x version has better silicone most of the time so you could overclock it to be even higher. But if you are gonna keep it stock you could just buy a non X and overclock it for almost the same result
There are b650 boards at or below 200$. The x670e rog strix board at 500$ is 150$ more than the x570 rog strix, owning both of these boards I can say with confidence that the x670e is well more than 150$ better than the x570. The IO options and features of these new boards are pretty awesome.
@@Levios-xg5co 60$ is not midrange, that's below the bottom of the barrel and always has been. Even a cheap no brand chinese x79 board is running 100-130$ so a b650 with features that shame a previous gen x570 running at 200 bucks is not a bad value at 150-200$.
I'm guessing since the benchmark differences were much higher, it's more worth it to get it if you do a lot of rendering work, but not necessarily for gaming.
For gaming no point getting the 7600x. 7600 is more than 20 dollars cheaper, as the 7600x you need to buy a cpu cooler as well, while the 7600 non x has a stock cooler, so if you're on a budget, 7600 can save you some money
I ussualy say to people that i know to take a rx 6700 to 6800xt with this cpu and spend the extra 20-100 bucks not in coolers or better cpu but in a better motherboard and later as you sayed in 5 years upgrate to the next best cpu like a 9000 series cpu and a top of a line newer line gpu without having to change the ram type or the motherboard or psu
@@comenter-nz7dpwent for an rx 6800, r5 7600, and an msi pro b650m-a wifi motherboard. Good advice and I hope you're right about that future compatibility 🙏
it actaully draws 88w the 65w is just amd's way of calculating TDP which they can change and make it obsolete. so the 65w TDP of the r5 7600 and the 65w TDP of the r5 5600 are completely different.
@@jerrylove865 Oh for sure. It's not really worth it from that point of view. I was thinking more like someone with a previous box cooler using it with their Zen 4. Here the X was only 10 dollars more and I was going to buy a cooler anyhow so it was a good deal. But if someone doesn't want to bother then they should just get the non X because like you said , it'll be around $20 more and then another $50+ on cooling.
Almost similar performance on 1080p and 1440p. But noticeable performance uplifts on 720p. Guess if you play with upscalers a lot then it makes sense to get the X version.
I got mine for same but no black Friday and that shop forgot to send me my RAMs so I got them with 20€ discount :D but by that time they got 10€ cheaper so I got them for 30€ less :D
You should make a video of 7600+ddr5 vs a 5600x+ddr4 with the 3080 gpu and do another vid for the 6650xt separate. would like to see and for people to see if it's better to upgrade the cpu ram and mobo or buy a 4000 series gpu which is the better route.
Yeah i'm surprised no one came out saying "720 is to see the differences in CPU performance". Yeah I think most people understand the low or high resolutions might allow people to see differences or no differences in CPU tests but in reality 720 is pointless, who cares what performance it nets if no one games at 720. 4k might show only a GPU bottleneck but people game at 4k now and want to know if it's a waste. We are starting to see more and more hardware improvements that actually carry into 4k now even if less then 1080/1440. 4k benchmarks are relevant to show value with various tier GPU's. Yes I know this was from 6 months ago.
Because it reflects reality. If people don't game at low detail then what good does it do someone to see the gains in a scenario they won't ever use. I understand the point you are making but I think more people care about specific use cases for their decision making not how many points difference a CPU can make at 720p with ultra low detail. That data shows CPU differences yes but that is about it. People that have a 1440p or 4k monitor that like High Detail want to see benefits or not in their use case.
@@45eno I have a 1440p monitor and game at 1440p. But when comparing CPUs I want to know the difference in their actual performance so I can make the correct choice when buying. I don't want the result of someone else's GPU. This is a CPU benchmark, not a GPU. What applies to his GPU does not apply for my GPU, I may not even want to game at ultra, and I don't care about the results of RTX 3080, so this benchmark is completely irrelevant for me. And for everybody else who may want to upgrade their GPU in the future or just want a high refresh rate at lower settings or doesn't have RTX 3080. Based on his benchmark I literally have no idea if any of those chips can do 144 fps.
@@snakeat3r114 yes I know all that. Most don’t game at 720p at low settings so know one cpu can squeak out more frames doesn’t help many people except to tell them yes this cpu has more output at this irrelevant configuration. People want to know realistic configurations that show if I game like I normally would will I see a difference. I understand how benchmarks work.
@@45eno You don't need to game at 720p low settings to see a difference though. It's just that max settings on high resolution makes no sense if you want to compare the CPUs, because you are not really comparing them. Reducing the graph settings and seeing which CPU is faster will give you a better idea which one will be more futureproof. Because one of them might be 50% faster and will do it's job in future games and the other one will not, but if you are testing the GPU as this guy is then you won't be able to tell that. I know this isn't the case with these CPUs but that's not the point.
@@snakeat3r114 How many times do I need to say this to you. I understand the ABC's of benchmarking that you are trying to explain to me. I understand you run low settings , low res and fast GPU to show the differences between CPU capabilities. What I am saying is this only matters briefly to show which one can run faster in this sort of scernario. After that the rest of the game benchmarks might as well be more realistic to what people will use. It's a waste of time to test a bunch of games in your method just to keep seeing which CPU has more headroom for FPS. What most people want to see is will X purchase gain me any benefits Y game. If 4k and High settings shows 90fps on both the7600X and 13600K with a 3090 then people will factor that in along with other factors like price and productivity. 720p, Ultra Low, Low Resolution is a waste just to see what CPU can do in a setup that no one will run. Yes it shows differences in max FPS between two but doesn't help the person that likes ULTRA settings and High resolution decide what level of CPU is needed to shoot for their FPS goals.
@@caidzz9248 No the 7600 doesn't equal 5800X in gaming benchmarks, the 7600 is equal to 5800X3D in gaming benchmarks. Now in productivity benchmarks yes the 7600 6 core CPU is very similar to the 5800X 8 core due to IPC improvements. But your comment mentioned 720p which is gaming benchmarks and the 7600 walks all over Zen3 CPU's except the 3D Zen3 which is similar to Zen4 6 core CPU's. I have been watching this closely as I just sold off my 5800X3D for a 7600X and basically multithreaded tasks is about equal to last gen 8 core but single threaded performances is far better on Zen4. 5800x is very much mid tier now. I own two of them and are great, actually typing this on one now.
It almost doesn't matter which you pick, the X cpus can be put in eco mode to match the settings of the non X cpus while the non X cpus can turn on PBO and match the X counterparts. No locked parts here, just a small price difference and different default options.
so the non x is better cause that one is cheaper
@@Levios-xg5co also includes a CPU Cooler that is useful if you don't have one...
@@blackburner97PY yeah but if you want to overclock it to the performance of the x version the stock cooler will not be enough
I find it hard to believe AMD released the same CPU for cheaper so that they could earn smaller profit margins from some consumers. There's no reason to do that.
@@cube-nite no the x version has better silicone most of the time so you could overclock it to be even higher. But if you are gonna keep it stock you could just buy a non X and overclock it for almost the same result
Now AMD just needs to do something about the terrible motherboard pricing.
There are b650 boards at or below 200$. The x670e rog strix board at 500$ is 150$ more than the x570 rog strix, owning both of these boards I can say with confidence that the x670e is well more than 150$ better than the x570. The IO options and features of these new boards are pretty awesome.
they don't need to, already costs the same as 13600kf ddr4 build , that's why intel is scared to announce their 13500.
@@PineyJustice yeah but boards like b450 where like 60$ and that is the price a midrange board like the bx50 series should be
@@Levios-xg5co 60$ is not midrange, that's below the bottom of the barrel and always has been. Even a cheap no brand chinese x79 board is running 100-130$ so a b650 with features that shame a previous gen x570 running at 200 bucks is not a bad value at 150-200$.
@@PineyJustice Over here there is no B650 motherboards under 199.90€. I check everyday. They need to get close to B550 prices.
I'm guessing since the benchmark differences were much higher, it's more worth it to get it if you do a lot of rendering work, but not necessarily for gaming.
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Stfu@@xler3441
For gaming no point getting the 7600x. 7600 is more than 20 dollars cheaper, as the 7600x you need to buy a cpu cooler as well, while the 7600 non x has a stock cooler, so if you're on a budget, 7600 can save you some money
and always undervolt. undervolt = worth more than higher clockspeeds. cooler systems always outlasts hotter ones.
7600 with pbo on to match the 7600x you’re gonna want a better cooler…
@@deathrager2404 if ur goal is to last long and pay little buy a 5 dollars pc and never use it, same results, same logic
I'm going with a micro atx build, so the lower temperatures from stock will come in handy mixed with my AIO.
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i think 7600 is enough for 2023 and next 5 years
I ussualy say to people that i know to take a rx 6700 to 6800xt with this cpu and spend the extra 20-100 bucks not in coolers or better cpu but in a better motherboard and later as you sayed in 5 years upgrate to the next best cpu like a 9000 series cpu and a top of a line newer line gpu without having to change the ram type or the motherboard or psu
@@comenter-nz7dpwent for an rx 6800, r5 7600, and an msi pro b650m-a wifi motherboard. Good advice and I hope you're right about that future compatibility 🙏
@@comenter-nz7dp wdym take a rx 6700 to 6800xt with this cpu?
@@whenwillitbecold for gpu bcz that acc to me is the best price to performance
@@comenter-nz7dp are u saying to get 6800xt and r5 7600?
Unfortunately I'll have to go with the x variant and spend more money on cooler as it's cheaper than 7600 for some reason god knows
that's very impressive for only 65W CPU
you could also PBO it
it actaully draws 88w the 65w is just amd's way of calculating TDP which they can change and make it obsolete. so the 65w TDP of the r5 7600 and the 65w TDP of the r5 5600 are completely different.
$20 + cooler costs.
Box cooler 100 degrees workloads 80+ degrees gaming. I guess it's fine but it triggers my cooling ocd.
@@letigidou8660 7600X doesn't have a box cooler. Also, throttling should prevent 100C.
@@jerrylove865 Oh for sure. It's not really worth it from that point of view. I was thinking more like someone with a previous box cooler using it with their Zen 4.
Here the X was only 10 dollars more and I was going to buy a cooler anyhow so it was a good deal. But if someone doesn't want to bother then they should just get the non X because like you said , it'll be around $20 more and then another $50+ on cooling.
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Yeah but the stock cooler included isn’t that great so…
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yes like 10 times more. I want to loose my hearing.
Almost similar performance on 1080p and 1440p. But noticeable performance uplifts on 720p. Guess if you play with upscalers a lot then it makes sense to get the X version.
That's because he has to bench them on low settings, otherwise it's a GPU bottleneck.
In Brazil it's not worth pay 400Reais more for this difference
e 250? ta baratin hj
1:27 What about 7600x's temperature?
Probably doesn't come with a stock cooler, hence
I got a 7600X for $239.99 on Black Friday.
Congrats.
Congrats bro
I got a 7600X with 32Gb 5600 DDR5 at MicroCenter for $239.99 at the same time!
@@davidg2731 nice man
I got mine for same but no black Friday and that shop forgot to send me my RAMs so I got them with 20€ discount :D but by that time they got 10€ cheaper so I got them for 30€ less :D
the highest power draw is 446W, so 550W is more than enough for this build ?
Having some headroom is ideal (over 150-200w) so better get a 650w at the very least
Its really an extra 50 bucks as the 7600x doesnt come with a cooler
can confirm 7600 is a beast. that also wont break the bank for running costs ! cant wait now for the next few years and the release of a X3D processor
I just picked up a 7600/b650m combo for $290 and I'll be getting it in the morning. Can't wait!
@@kotztotz3530 amazing value! Which mobo is it? Just make sure to get ddr5 that's on the qvl for the mobo as AMD is fussy with memory
@@Zombie101 MSI Pro B650M-A. I bought GSkill Z5 Neo 6000 CL30. I plan on tuning the RAM according to HUB/Buildzoid's settings.
@@kotztotz3530 Where did you get the combo for that price?
@@kotztotz3530 where on earth are you getting that
recently i put all my parts on power saving mode now because I've short circuted my house like 15 times 😓😩😫
Warum die RX6650XT, im 1080p Benchmark?
because its mid range gpu:)
You should make a video of 7600+ddr5 vs a 5600x+ddr4 with the 3080 gpu and do another vid for the 6650xt separate. would like to see and for people to see if it's better to upgrade the cpu ram and mobo or buy a 4000 series gpu which is the better route.
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Paid an extra $3 and got the X version. Tho I mostly play games and the difference is none existence, I sometimes use blender.
hi, what mean the red bar?
1% lows
Do we really need 720p in 2023? 🤔
Yeah i'm surprised no one came out saying "720 is to see the differences in CPU performance". Yeah I think most people understand the low or high resolutions might allow people to see differences or no differences in CPU tests but in reality 720 is pointless, who cares what performance it nets if no one games at 720. 4k might show only a GPU bottleneck but people game at 4k now and want to know if it's a waste. We are starting to see more and more hardware improvements that actually carry into 4k now even if less then 1080/1440. 4k benchmarks are relevant to show value with various tier GPU's. Yes I know this was from 6 months ago.
why the hell are there 720p benchmarks? lol
You wont play as a 720p with 3080 and 7600 in real life but In processor benchmarks, low resolution is good for comparison.
more resolution : gpu work , less resolution : cpu work
PLS redo this benchmark but with an RTX 4090
7600x is $6 cheaper from amazon. It doesn't have a stock cooler so maybe that's why haha..
nah those temps are crazy
65W vs 105W :D
Is your GPU a bottleneck?
WTF in Video 7600x vs 5800x3d vs 13600k Dota2 make 340 fps but in this video just 214 fps 🤨🤨🤨
maby he is now using a worse GPU
Why the hell is everybody doing CPU benchmark on the highest graphics possible? The idea is to test the CPU not the GPU ...
Because it reflects reality. If people don't game at low detail then what good does it do someone to see the gains in a scenario they won't ever use. I understand the point you are making but I think more people care about specific use cases for their decision making not how many points difference a CPU can make at 720p with ultra low detail. That data shows CPU differences yes but that is about it. People that have a 1440p or 4k monitor that like High Detail want to see benefits or not in their use case.
@@45eno I have a 1440p monitor and game at 1440p. But when comparing CPUs I want to know the difference in their actual performance so I can make the correct choice when buying. I don't want the result of someone else's GPU. This is a CPU benchmark, not a GPU. What applies to his GPU does not apply for my GPU, I may not even want to game at ultra, and I don't care about the results of RTX 3080, so this benchmark is completely irrelevant for me. And for everybody else who may want to upgrade their GPU in the future or just want a high refresh rate at lower settings or doesn't have RTX 3080. Based on his benchmark I literally have no idea if any of those chips can do 144 fps.
@@snakeat3r114 yes I know all that. Most don’t game at 720p at low settings so know one cpu can squeak out more frames doesn’t help many people except to tell them yes this cpu has more output at this irrelevant configuration. People want to know realistic configurations that show if I game like I normally would will I see a difference. I understand how benchmarks work.
@@45eno You don't need to game at 720p low settings to see a difference though. It's just that max settings on high resolution makes no sense if you want to compare the CPUs, because you are not really comparing them. Reducing the graph settings and seeing which CPU is faster will give you a better idea which one will be more futureproof. Because one of them might be 50% faster and will do it's job in future games and the other one will not, but if you are testing the GPU as this guy is then you won't be able to tell that. I know this isn't the case with these CPUs but that's not the point.
@@snakeat3r114 How many times do I need to say this to you. I understand the ABC's of benchmarking that you are trying to explain to me. I understand you run low settings , low res and fast GPU to show the differences between CPU capabilities. What I am saying is this only matters briefly to show which one can run faster in this sort of scernario. After that the rest of the game benchmarks might as well be more realistic to what people will use. It's a waste of time to test a bunch of games in your method just to keep seeing which CPU has more headroom for FPS. What most people want to see is will X purchase gain me any benefits Y game. If 4k and High settings shows 90fps on both the7600X and 13600K with a 3090 then people will factor that in along with other factors like price and productivity. 720p, Ultra Low, Low Resolution is a waste just to see what CPU can do in a setup that no one will run. Yes it shows differences in max FPS between two but doesn't help the person that likes ULTRA settings and High resolution decide what level of CPU is needed to shoot for their FPS goals.
65w vs 105w, why?
base clock 3.7 n 4.7
7600 better.7600 dont need best mum jn world, he cold
yo creo que una 3080 ya realiza cuello de botella al r5 7600 es mejor usar la 4070ti o 4080
I think 3080 is bottleneck with 13600k , 5800X3D or 7600 .
Better use 4080 GPU .
in most games ryzen 7600 is bottlenecking you can check here - ruclips.net/video/DEZ5Y315Ym8/видео.html
In my country x modell is 30 euro less. 🤣🤣
In my country just 25 😂😂😂😂
5% разница difference
bad 380 4090
it's so unnecessarily stupid to put 720p benchmark when u testing mid tier cpu with highend gpu
it’s more than mid tier, it equals the r5 5800x and that’s high tier
@@caidzz9248 No the 7600 doesn't equal 5800X in gaming benchmarks, the 7600 is equal to 5800X3D in gaming benchmarks. Now in productivity benchmarks yes the 7600 6 core CPU is very similar to the 5800X 8 core due to IPC improvements. But your comment mentioned 720p which is gaming benchmarks and the 7600 walks all over Zen3 CPU's except the 3D Zen3 which is similar to Zen4 6 core CPU's. I have been watching this closely as I just sold off my 5800X3D for a 7600X and basically multithreaded tasks is about equal to last gen 8 core but single threaded performances is far better on Zen4.
5800x is very much mid tier now. I own two of them and are great, actually typing this on one now.
i got 7600x for 185€
Worth