Yes.. Fender, ampeg, Markbass, GK, peavey, eden. Ect ect all of em like a shootout all with the same head and settings.. (So maybe 8 ohm cabs with a 400-500 watt head to make sure its not over powering the cabs)
I like 10s the most. 10" speaker has the nicest ballance of frequenices followed by 12". I find 15" to big and slow. 8s are fast and responsive but they do not have extended low end.
@@BudgetRC_Channel With the mic being that close I highly doubt that would be a problem. The real reason why it sounds "bad" is that that is a very cheap driver probably made for guitar amps and repurposed, the suspension and cone look very midrange-esque
Great video. I like how you used the looper to avoid having small differences as you changed speakers. I would have liked to hear a slap tone through this same context.
I loaded my Acoustic B115 MKII with Kappalite 3015LF. Nice smooth frequency response. Nice bass replacement speaker and great for subs. Very versatile driver. Couldn't get the T/S from Acoustic so i measured the cabinet for Vb.
My conclusion: a 10" is the perfect balance of thicc sound but not too muddy on the treble. Glad I saw this video, it convinced me that I don't want to carry the extra weight of a 12" for a practice amp.
Super useful video, thanks! I thought I'd need 15" speakers to move enough air. But it sounded too 'boomy'. The 12" seems to offer the best definition and still bottom end.
For a very good bass sound, I have used stereo loudspeakers, especially some of the ones from the 70s. they are not made for stage use but have a very good bass sound for home recording.
This is fantastic. The eminence 8"surprised me. The Fender 8" sounded, well, like a starter amp. The 12" also was surprising when compared to the 15", probably due to having more mids. I play a 4x10 and am looking to supplement the bottom end, and in part because I want to run my DOD Meatbox through it. I am leaning toward a 1x15. Suggestions?
Buy Hartke Aluminum cone 15'', gives extra mid while having enough bottom, but as always before buying one go try and see if you love it or no :) cheers
I've got a really nice 4 x 10" cabinet, made by Sonic in Wisconsin. But, they also made me a cabinet with an Electro-Voice 18" in it, and that thing will kick you in the chest so hard you feel it to your bones, and when it's loud, inside your body, in your lungs, your heart, your diaphragm. I've actually had a few people say it made them feel like they had to immediately take a dump. Important thing is that these cabinets are the best sounding bass cabs I've ever used. They're paired with an Ampeg SVT 4 Pro, and with an, all original, 83 American Fender P bass, I'd get compliments on the tone from fans of all genres. Occasionally it's run with an Ampeg SVT III ( the one that sounds quite a bit more like the classic Ampeg SVT amps) use the crossover to split high and low into the suitable cab, then use the EQ on each to scoop the mids down on the 4, and push only the mids out of the 3. I like that sound even better. It's got just a touch of Geddy Lee, Chris Squire Rickenbacher in those mids. Got a few other tones I like out of it too.
Lolololol the way you described that made me bust up laughing and also convinced me i think i should buy a 15 inch combo amp so i can really rattle my entire essence.
Thanks for the video! I was looking for a comparison of the 10" and 12" speakers. To my ear the Eminence 10" sounds more balanced than the others. It has the perfect blend of warm lows, mids & highs. The Eminence 12" is a close 2nd but the mid and high frequencies sound a little hollow compared to the 10". The Eminence 15" is just perfect for Reggae or Motown but it gets a little tinny when you play a run in a higher register... but that bottom end will rattle your soul!
The 8" really sounds ballsy if you play with a light touch, but it'd probably be waaaaay too harsh if you dug in a little. The 10" mic'd towards the edge of the dust cap sounds like the overall best to me, but they'd all have their uses, for sure. Very useful and informative video. Cheers.
I have a polytone cab from 1981, its 1x15 2x8, the mixture of those works unbelievably well. I'm currently running it with an aguilar ag 700, but I've also used it with an svt cl and an svt vr
I played on a 2x12 for quite some time and I sold it because I felt it was too "compromisy". Il really like the tightness and punch of 10's. My next rig will be a 4x10 or a 2x10+1x15
I’ve always been a 10”-guy but recently I had to buy another cab and bought a TC electronic cab with 12” speakers in it. I have to admit they don’t sound that bad, you can clearly hear the difference but I guess what I’ve learned is that different speakers work well with different sounds. Mix and match bass playing brothers and sisters :)
I thought the 10 would win, but I give the win to the Eminence 8 for clarity on the first riff and the 12 for tight and punch on the second riff. 12 is the overall winner. I was surprised the 10 was muddy on both riffs. 1st - 12, 2nd - Eminence 8, 3rd - 15, 4th - 10, 5th - Fender 8. I just bought the Rumble 25 from my LD and I'm really happy with it so far.
My own setup is a 4-10 cabinet and a 1-15, and I think you can here why with this demo: the 10s are plenty deep, but they're also punchy. The 15 has a bigger bottom than the 10s, but way less top end. Combine them and you've got the best of both worlds. 😁
Beta 52 mics are quite scooped in the midrange, though, which is where a lot of the nuances of bass tone are. An SM-7B or EV RE20 would probably be better.
Gonna start building my first rig. I found a fender 1x15 cab for $200used in excellent condition. I am also pairing a Hartke tx 300 with it. Hopefully it sounds good 🤞 I was also recommended in adding a 2x10 later. Thanks for the upload!
Problem with these kinds of test is, that it‘s done with home usage volume only. This does not say much about playing them loud or outside and together with a band, but when deciding to buy a speaker for practicing at home, it‘s fine. Here the 2x10 comes out quite nice, but my personal favorite for bass is the 15 inches. I play a 15 whenever I can, other sizes can be added. The real fun begins with a 1 15 and a 1 12 or 2x10 in combination. For louder venues a 2x15 and a 4x10 biamped can send you flyin‘!
Smaller lighter dustcaps extend response higher, but also will result in a response hole between the low frequency output of the cone. Large dustcaps as shown in the 10" are seen on pure woofers and do not extend response higher. With very large/heavy caps the high cap mass lowers the driver resonance, usually for subwoofer use.
That comparison was very useful! Thanks. It seems that the biggest difference was that the 8" speakers can't reproduce the lowest frequencies. The 10" seemed almost identical to the 12" and 15" on the E note, but I would be interested in seeing this comparison done on a 5-string bass. Will the 10" speaker cut off frequencies for the B the same way the 8" did for the E? And if so, would that sound good or bad? Too much bottom is just as bad as too much top.
Initially I liked 12" most, then 2x10", but after a lot of listening, I am starting to like 15" more, and I hope it will be the best companion to my fretless piezo Ibanez SRH505F for a more upright type of sound.
When I tried out the SRH505F music store I played it through a Rumble 200. When I pressed the bright button something magic happened and it ended up coming home with me. The bright button is a 10 k boost. My amp at home has a high frequency of 10k so I knew it would sound just as good there. ruclips.net/video/r4rQ9CG5YDs/видео.html
15 inch speakers rule - this my set up have two bass cabs with 2×15s Electro voice , running through a lexicon prosessor compressed both channels into to a 1974 SUN COLISEUM rated at 900 watts peak power , one of my favorite basses to play through this is my replica 1972 geddy lee japanese fender jazz bass with bad ass bridge replaced stock pick ups seymour duncan hot stacks made for heavier music ,wooooo hooooo can you hear the thunder !!!!
Dustcaps, depending on size, weight and material, will disperse and absorb highend to some degree AND alter the resonance frequency of the speaker slightly. However the type of cone and treatment of the cone will have a larger impact on tone." "
I appreciate the comparison. I would like to see you vary where you place the mic: center, middle and edge of the speaker cone on each. You were very consistent with your placement. Thanks, though.
I understand in this video of 2017, the Fender 8" is on the Rumble 15 and the Eminence 8" is on the Rumble 25, correct? Now, in 2020, checking the Fender website, also the Rumble 25 has the same crappy Fender 8"! Please tell me it is not true.
10" better quality and punch with plenty of low end. 2 10" have 750 sq cm of surface area while a 15" has 850 sq cm of surface area. This is why a 2x10 cabinet is worth a single 15 basically. But, you will get way better definition and punch with 2 10s over a single 15 and not all the mud.
To me, one of 2x10" mic'd isn't like one 10". Did you turn off the horn with the 15" or not? I'm surprised by the 8" on the rumble25: it's not bad at all (for its price). Overall, this vid was a great idea and it's a nice reference.
The 8" sounds bad, then again its only a tiny practice amp 2x10 Punchy with nice clarity 1x12 Similar to the 2x10 with a bit less clarity 1x15 similar to the 1x12 with a bit less clarity Its all down to preference the 2x10, 1x12, 1x15 are all good speakers if you prefer a more boomy sound go for the larger speaker if you favour clarity go for the 2x10. Personally I use the Rumble 500 (2x10) with an additional 1x15 cab and get the best of both worlds
I bought a bass amp with 12” speaker because of this demo. I had previously planned on a 15” An unexpected 2nd place was eminence 8”. The fender 8” sounded like garbage
I love this channel! Any chance you chance you guys could do a video on the AMPEG SVT CL? I'd love to see that because I feel like they're aren't enough good videos where they mic it up and everything like you guys.
The larger diameter speakers were in a league by themselves. I have a b&w 12 inch sub and it is incredible. Curious to know about tower speaker sizes. 7 inch vs 5 inch. If your Able to pay 4K per tower it will likely have a larger speaker and those that are half the price are closer 5 inch which seems tiny and cheap. Thoughts? Thanks
Just listened with headphones and yeah the 10 inch and 15 inch sounded almost the same, I liked the 10 inch the most. 12 was indeed more scooped. So that said, is 10 inch generally the best along all brands of speakers?
Actually, that was the Rumble 500 with 2x10" speakers. I think that a Rumble 40 with the single 10" Eminence would've been a better speaker vs. speaker comparison. Sure, it has far fewer watts than the 500, but this was a low volume comparison, and I imagine that having two 10" speakers changes the tone even at low volumes. I have the single 8" Eminence Rumble 25 and it sounds good, but I wish I had bought the 40 because it has several more tone shaping options and an XLR jack for going direct into a PA which means that one could possibly gig with it. I think that the three most useful amps are: The 40 for home recording and small acoustic gigs. The 100 for home, rehearsal with a quiet drummer and small gigs with PA support. The 500 for just about any situation, including outdoors, if you add an extension cabinet for the full 500 watts vs. only 350 watts internal, which is good enough by itself for most clubs without PA support. The 15 and 25 only have one use, home practice. The 200 only puts out 140 watts internal. Without another 15" extension cabinet, it would be only marginally more useful than the 100, and the 200 only costs $70 less than a 500, which makes the 500 a much better deal. That's why I say that the 40, 100, and 500 are the best bang for the buck in this lineup.
@The Prezenz I haven't heard it. But, checking the specs reveals that the 800 only puts out 400 watts internal, although it does have a weight advantage of only 29 lbs vs. 36.5 for the Rumble 500. My question is this: Wouldn't it be better to buy a 2x10x700 watt (39 lbs) speaker cabinet for $500 and pair it with a 2x10x 500 watt (36.5 lbs) Rumble for $650? You would spend $300 more than the Rumble 800 ($850) for an $1150, 4x10x500 watt system vs. 2x10×400 watt system for the Rumble 800 by itself. I think that a Rumble 500 with a cabinet would blow away the 800 without a cabinet.
@@skybluemarshall yes of course but I think the extra cabinet is just a matter of taste. I think in terms of volume there's not such a hugh difference between 500 and 800. And I saw another advantage of the 800 as the master volume doesn't affect the XLR output, which is handy although it seems that there are 500 users who don't make a problem of it. Food for thought 🤔
Where can I find a video like this playing a riff with drop A tuning on each speaker? I cant find any videos with metal players they all seem to be playing funk or jazz
I do have a 4x8“ cab (600 watts equipped with celestions) and it sounds wonderful (even the low b!). So the only x-over you‘ll need is for the 1“-driver in the cab!
very good good work guy¡¡¡¡....but this video seems to put my mind upside down ..i can´t belive that eminence 10" of R500 soundd more bassy than eminence 15" of R200....I believed that gradually, with more diameter, the same ampli would sound more bassy.. even more being from the same manufacturer. if EQ it´s really the same,I suposse there are more factors of speaker cone , its material density ,conicity thereof,the area of the cone covering the central spherical cap... The case is that it amazes me ,I am looking for a deep bass sound that is heard very defined the tuning of the notes in the fourth and fifth string... after trying the Rumble 100 with 12" ,with volume beyond 2 I discovered that I lost a lot of definition , after that I was convinced that i would need an amp with 15" speaker.. but this video has left me confused woww
The Fender website lists the Rumble 15, Rumble 25 and Rumble 40 as having "Fender Special Design" speakers and only mentions "Eminence" speakers on the 100 upwards. So I'd like to know which amp am I hearing that's labeled as an "Eminence 8 inch"?
I like these new rumble amps. I have the Rumble 40 and it sounds very good but I don't think these cheap eminence speakers they put in do them any justice. The eq section is excellent compared to a lot of expensive bass amps and from what i've read a speaker swap can make a huge difference. I think the move is to buy a used one and upgrade the speaker so your costs don't get unjustified so to speak. Again I think Fender hit a home run as far as the eq section is concerned but could really have dominated the market had they put in a Faital type quality speaker in these models as to possibly move away from the stigma that the rumble series is an entry level amp.
The Eminence Basslite S2010 seems to be the best option from everything i've read. Apparently plugging one of the ports and putting in a bit more foam on the inside of the cab along with the new speaker makes a huge difference in the sound.
I like the 12, sounded the most consistent across frequencies and notes.
Watch some mid 60s-early 70s videos of bassists playing through Marshall 4x12s. I have heard 2x12 cabs shake a room.
I agree
@@alwaysopen7970 my SVT212AV does. 600w at 4ohm. Does better to me then my 4x10 cab 410HLF. Plus light weight
For me the 12 sounded the most scooped.
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Might just be me but the 10 and 15 sounded similar in the low mids and relaxed highs and the 12 had alot more sparkle it seemed
The 12 is also definitely scooped in the mids
The 12s sound the absolute best. This was a great side-by-side, thanks!
My iPhone speaker produces more low end than that Fender 8”
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love the 10" and nice demo, i would like to hear a demo of versus of diferents brands using same size speaker like the fender vs ampeg vs orange
Hopefully we can make that happen in the future.
Yes.. Fender, ampeg, Markbass, GK, peavey, eden. Ect ect all of em like a shootout all with the same head and settings.. (So maybe 8 ohm cabs with a 400-500 watt head to make sure its not over powering the cabs)
Always thought I preferred 15's, but man the 10's sound the best to me here.
Thanks! Been waiting for a review like this. Those eminence 10” speakers sound the best to me.
I like 10s the most. 10" speaker has the nicest ballance of frequenices followed by 12". I find 15" to big and slow. 8s are fast and responsive but they do not have extended low end.
12 is so awesome. It has punch, tightness, note definition. Great all rounder.
My conclusion : wow, that fender 8" sounds like crap!
The 8" eminence was in a ported cab. The Fender appeared to be in a sealed cab. Not really a fair comparison.
@@BudgetRC_Channel With the mic being that close I highly doubt that would be a problem.
The real reason why it sounds "bad" is that that is a very cheap driver probably made for guitar amps and repurposed, the suspension and cone look very midrange-esque
@@ilpatongi hi! Which one it’s eminence 8? Cherrs!
@@antom93636 It's clearly labeled in the video
It sounds like a paper cup.
Great video. I like how you used the looper to avoid having small differences as you changed speakers. I would have liked to hear a slap tone through this same context.
I loaded my Acoustic B115 MKII with Kappalite 3015LF. Nice smooth frequency response. Nice bass replacement speaker and great for subs. Very versatile driver. Couldn't get the T/S from Acoustic so i measured the cabinet for Vb.
My conclusion: a 10" is the perfect balance of thicc sound but not too muddy on the treble. Glad I saw this video, it convinced me that I don't want to carry the extra weight of a 12" for a practice amp.
I'm with you.
I think 10" only works for practice, but when it comes to a gig, it doesn't fit, needs more body than the 12" provides
Super useful video, thanks! I thought I'd need 15" speakers to move enough air. But it sounded too 'boomy'. The 12" seems to offer the best definition and still bottom end.
great comparison. I like the15" speaker, it sounds more balanced
For a very good bass sound, I have used stereo loudspeakers, especially some of the ones from the 70s. they are not made for stage use but have a very good bass sound for home recording.
Cool video Nick. Part 2 of this video should include a couple slap riffs. Great work as always.
This is fantastic. The eminence 8"surprised me. The Fender 8" sounded, well, like a starter amp. The 12" also was surprising when compared to the 15", probably due to having more mids. I play a 4x10 and am looking to supplement the bottom end, and in part because I want to run my DOD Meatbox through it. I am leaning toward a 1x15. Suggestions?
Buy Hartke Aluminum cone 15'', gives extra mid while having enough bottom, but as always before buying one go try and see if you love it or no :) cheers
Fender Bassman 115 all the way!
Put your 4x10 on top of the 15 and run them both.
Thank you for doing this! Super helpful.
Side note: that PJ just popped up in my local GC and I fell in love with it.
You’re welcome! Oh, nice! Get it! Then put the EMG GZR set in it and you’ll be rocking! Especially if you run it into a Darkglass Alpha Omega. ;)
Careful with those MIM's: they sound great, but the fret sprouting in cold, dry weather is ridiculous.
Thank you for comparison test. To me 10" is the best of both worlds. clarity and fullness.
I've got a really nice 4 x 10" cabinet, made by Sonic in Wisconsin. But, they also made me a cabinet with an Electro-Voice 18" in it, and that thing will kick you in the chest so hard you feel it to your bones, and when it's loud, inside your body, in your lungs, your heart, your diaphragm.
I've actually had a few people say it made them feel like they had to immediately take a dump.
Important thing is that these cabinets are the best sounding bass cabs I've ever used. They're paired with an Ampeg SVT 4 Pro, and with an, all original, 83 American Fender P bass, I'd get compliments on the tone from fans of all genres.
Occasionally it's run with an Ampeg SVT III ( the one that sounds quite a bit more like the classic Ampeg SVT amps) use the crossover to split high and low into the suitable cab, then use the EQ on each to scoop the mids down on the 4, and push only the mids out of the 3. I like that sound even better. It's got just a touch of Geddy Lee, Chris Squire Rickenbacher in those mids. Got a few other tones I like out of it too.
Metalbass10000 - best post of 2020. 👍
Lolololol the way you described that made me bust up laughing and also convinced me i think i should buy a 15 inch combo amp so i can really rattle my entire essence.
Thanks for the video! I was looking for a comparison of the 10" and 12" speakers. To my ear the Eminence 10" sounds more balanced than the others. It has the perfect blend of warm lows, mids & highs. The Eminence 12" is a close 2nd but the mid and high frequencies sound a little hollow compared to the 10". The Eminence 15" is just perfect for Reggae or Motown but it gets a little tinny when you play a run in a higher register... but that bottom end will rattle your soul!
Would be really great to see more of these. Maybe GK, Aguilar, Ampeg, Markbass. I'm sure have all of those just sitting around, right?
What an excellent comparison! Definitely helps to choose a bass cabinet. Thx for all the effort!
The 8" really sounds ballsy if you play with a light touch, but it'd probably be waaaaay too harsh if you dug in a little. The 10" mic'd towards the edge of the dust cap sounds like the overall best to me, but they'd all have their uses, for sure. Very useful and informative video. Cheers.
I have a polytone cab from 1981, its 1x15 2x8, the mixture of those works unbelievably well. I'm currently running it with an aguilar ag 700, but I've also used it with an svt cl and an svt vr
I played on a 2x12 for quite some time and I sold it because I felt it was too "compromisy". Il really like the tightness and punch of 10's. My next rig will be a 4x10 or a 2x10+1x15
The 2-10 Combo w/1-15 ext Cab is perfect. Kicks Ass
12” has the combination of both 10” and 15” speaker definition.
Would love to hear that low-end Rumble 15 woofer pushed to the max.
As it should be.
I’ve always been a 10”-guy but recently I had to buy another cab and bought a TC electronic cab with 12” speakers in it. I have to admit they don’t sound that bad, you can clearly hear the difference but I guess what I’ve learned is that different speakers work well with different sounds. Mix and match bass playing brothers and sisters :)
...that Fender 8" , surprised me with its pronounced cut. Have to hear these in a simple mix. Thanks for the vid.
Ian Tolmay such a terrible tone nasal and boomy at the same time.
Sad nasal non ported cab sound...
I thought the 10 would win, but I give the win to the Eminence 8 for clarity on the first riff and the 12 for tight and punch on the second riff. 12 is the overall winner. I was surprised the 10 was muddy on both riffs. 1st - 12, 2nd - Eminence 8, 3rd - 15, 4th - 10, 5th - Fender 8. I just bought the Rumble 25 from my LD and I'm really happy with it so far.
My favorite, was The 10" Eminence.. ^^ I Think it has a deepest sound.
My own setup is a 4-10 cabinet and a 1-15, and I think you can here why with this demo: the 10s are plenty deep, but they're also punchy. The 15 has a bigger bottom than the 10s, but way less top end. Combine them and you've got the best of both worlds. 😁
for home recording, a 10" is best unless you want the neighbor come knocking
That's what I run, too. The 10s sound punchy, but the 12s have some growl in the deep end, and the 15s seem to have a lot of growl in the deep end.
Beta 52 mics are quite scooped in the midrange, though, which is where a lot of the nuances of bass tone are. An SM-7B or EV RE20 would probably be better.
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This is awesome. Keep doing stuff like this.
The 12 sounds best tonally but there's nothing quite like the responsiveness and surprising amount of tight bass with multiple 10s
Eminence 10": 0:59
Eminence 15": 1:10
Eminence 12": 1:22
Eminence 8": 1:33
-Joke- Fender 8": 1:38
Gonna start building my first rig.
I found a fender 1x15 cab for $200used in excellent condition. I am also pairing a Hartke tx 300 with it. Hopefully it sounds good 🤞
I was also recommended in adding a 2x10 later.
Thanks for the upload!
Wow the eminence 8 sounds so much better than the 8 fender to me. The eminence 10 is my favourite of the bunch.
The Fender 8 sounds like a milk carton.
@@MrClassicmetal Worst ever. Why is Fender making such crap 🙁
@@vanderHoffTeachings I'd skip that thing and go for a Hartke.
Problem with these kinds of test is, that it‘s done with home usage volume only. This does not say much about playing them loud or outside and together with a band, but when deciding to buy a speaker for practicing at home, it‘s fine. Here the 2x10 comes out quite nice, but my personal favorite for bass is the 15 inches. I play a 15 whenever I can, other sizes can be added. The real fun begins with a 1 15 and a 1 12 or 2x10 in combination. For louder venues a 2x15 and a 4x10 biamped can send you flyin‘!
Smaller lighter dustcaps extend response higher, but also will result in a response hole between the low frequency output of the cone. Large dustcaps as shown in the 10" are seen on pure woofers and do not extend response higher. With very large/heavy caps the high cap mass lowers the driver resonance, usually for subwoofer use.
P-bass + 15 is the perfect match!
I remember the old days when I would play a 4x12 box, front ported. They had a nice sound
That must have been long ago...to lift a (classic) 4x12 NOW I'd need one of those compressed gas forklifts!
That comparison was very useful! Thanks.
It seems that the biggest difference was that the 8" speakers can't reproduce the lowest frequencies. The 10" seemed almost identical to the 12" and 15" on the E note, but I would be interested in seeing this comparison done on a 5-string bass. Will the 10" speaker cut off frequencies for the B the same way the 8" did for the E?
And if so, would that sound good or bad? Too much bottom is just as bad as too much top.
The 2x10 combo is king.
the 10's sound the best to me here
Initially I liked 12" most, then 2x10", but after a lot of listening, I am starting to like 15" more, and I hope it will be the best companion to my fretless piezo Ibanez SRH505F for a more upright type of sound.
When I tried out the SRH505F music store I played it through a Rumble 200. When I pressed the bright button something magic happened and it ended up coming home with me. The bright button is a 10 k boost. My amp at home has a high frequency of 10k so I knew it would sound just as good there. ruclips.net/video/r4rQ9CG5YDs/видео.html
Nice punchy sound from the ten
15 inch speakers rule - this my set up have two bass cabs with 2×15s Electro voice , running through a lexicon prosessor compressed both channels into to a 1974 SUN COLISEUM rated at 900 watts peak power , one of my favorite basses to play through this is my replica 1972 geddy lee japanese fender jazz bass with bad ass bridge replaced stock pick ups seymour duncan hot stacks made for heavier music ,wooooo hooooo can you hear the thunder !!!!
I bet that sounds seriously insane!
Do you think 2 peavey 1x15bx cabs. 1 black widow and one scorpion, would sound decent?
Dustcaps, depending on size, weight and material, will disperse and absorb highend to some degree AND alter the resonance frequency of the speaker slightly. However the type of cone and treatment of the cone will have a larger impact on tone."
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10" are the best solid tone for me.
Me too and I agree with you
I appreciate the comparison. I would like to see you vary where you place the mic: center, middle and edge of the speaker cone on each. You were very consistent with your placement. Thanks, though.
The 10 inches are the bomb.
I like the 12. the Fender 8 was bad
best to stand back and let the sound form together, using the port on a well designed cabinet. a 8x10 is a bit clangy at 1ft, but at 20ft it is heaven
Loved the 12
10 sounds best to me, very crisp and punchy.
Blind, I liked the centered mic on the 12. Saw it was my amp! :D
I understand in this video of 2017, the Fender 8" is on the Rumble 15 and the Eminence 8" is on the Rumble 25, correct?
Now, in 2020, checking the Fender website, also the Rumble 25 has the same crappy Fender 8"!
Please tell me it is not true.
10" better quality and punch with plenty of low end. 2 10" have 750 sq cm of surface area while a 15" has 850 sq cm of surface area. This is why a 2x10 cabinet is worth a single 15 basically. But, you will get way better definition and punch with 2 10s over a single 15 and not all the mud.
I have 2/10s with a 1/15 running my rumble 500 v3 head✊ best of both worlds 🎸
To me, one of 2x10" mic'd isn't like one 10". Did you turn off the horn with the 15" or not? I'm surprised by the 8" on the rumble25: it's not bad at all (for its price).
Overall, this vid was a great idea and it's a nice reference.
this is cool, helps you decide on cab choices, now i wish someone made a cab with 12" with 2-8" speakers in it! lol
I'm going to need an Eminence 4-way, with highpass filter for the 8". Every one of those speakers Eminence sounded good in it's own way. :)
10 sound is very nice
The 8" sounds bad, then again its only a tiny practice amp
2x10 Punchy with nice clarity
1x12 Similar to the 2x10 with a bit less clarity
1x15 similar to the 1x12 with a bit less clarity
Its all down to preference the 2x10, 1x12, 1x15 are all good speakers if you prefer a more boomy sound go for the larger speaker if you favour clarity go for the 2x10.
Personally I use the Rumble 500 (2x10) with an additional 1x15 cab and get the best of both worlds
I like your combo. I have the rumble 500 also and I'm looking for a 15" to add to give me that bottom end. What is your rig setup?
I use 10 and 15 biamped, the 12 is for my slight distortion channel.
I bought a bass amp with 12” speaker because of this demo. I had previously planned on a 15”
An unexpected 2nd place was eminence 8”.
The fender 8” sounded like garbage
The eminence 8” sounds so much better than the fender 8", but, to me, hollow compared to the larger speakers.
Thanks! Very helpful!
15, 12, 10 (in order) all day
The 8s are impressive!
I like the Eminence 8", 10" and 15", not so much the 12". Fender 8" is not mine.
I love this channel! Any chance you chance you guys could do a video on the AMPEG SVT CL? I'd love to see that because I feel like they're aren't enough good videos where they mic it up and everything like you guys.
Yeah, we’re planning on that very soon. Nick has the head with a 4x10 and Will has an 8x10AV. We may use both cabs for comparison.
Should I keep my head almost pressed against the speaker when I play?
1:05 10inch 1:22 12inch
Thanks! Really helpful video!
The larger diameter speakers were in a league by themselves. I have a b&w 12 inch sub and it is incredible. Curious to know about tower speaker sizes. 7 inch vs 5 inch. If your Able to pay 4K per tower it will likely have a larger speaker and those that are half the price are closer 5 inch which seems tiny and cheap. Thoughts? Thanks
Just listened with headphones and yeah the 10 inch and 15 inch sounded almost the same, I liked the 10 inch the most. 12 was indeed more scooped.
So that said, is 10 inch generally the best along all brands of speakers?
Actually, that was the Rumble 500 with 2x10" speakers. I think that a Rumble 40 with the single 10" Eminence would've been a better speaker vs. speaker comparison. Sure, it has far fewer watts than the 500, but this was a low volume comparison, and I imagine that having two 10" speakers changes the tone even at low volumes.
I have the single 8" Eminence Rumble 25 and it sounds good, but I wish I had bought the 40 because it has several more tone shaping options and an XLR jack for going direct into a PA which means that one could possibly gig with it.
I think that the three most useful amps are: The 40 for home recording and small acoustic gigs. The 100 for home, rehearsal with a quiet drummer and small gigs with PA support. The 500 for just about any situation, including outdoors, if you add an extension cabinet for the full 500 watts vs. only 350 watts internal, which is good enough by itself for most clubs without PA support.
The 15 and 25 only have one use, home practice. The 200 only puts out 140 watts internal. Without another 15" extension cabinet, it would be only marginally more useful than the 100, and the 200 only costs $70 less than a 500, which makes the 500 a much better deal.
That's why I say that the 40, 100, and 500 are the best bang for the buck in this lineup.
@@skybluemarshall thank you very much for your reply. What's your thought on the new 800? (Not the stage 800) in comparison with 500?
@The Prezenz I haven't heard it. But, checking the specs reveals that the 800 only puts out 400 watts internal, although it does have a weight advantage of only 29 lbs vs. 36.5 for the Rumble 500.
My question is this: Wouldn't it be better to buy a 2x10x700 watt (39 lbs) speaker cabinet for $500 and pair it with a 2x10x 500 watt (36.5 lbs) Rumble for $650?
You would spend $300 more than the Rumble 800 ($850) for an $1150, 4x10x500 watt system vs. 2x10×400 watt system for the Rumble 800 by itself. I think that a Rumble 500 with a cabinet would blow away the 800 without a cabinet.
@@skybluemarshall yes of course but I think the extra cabinet is just a matter of taste. I think in terms of volume there's not such a hugh difference between 500 and 800. And I saw another advantage of the 800 as the master volume doesn't affect the XLR output, which is handy although it seems that there are 500 users who don't make a problem of it. Food for thought 🤔
Great video.can You update it with let's Say an sm57 or a vocal mic? A bass drum microphone has a VERY limited frecuency response
I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes smaller speakers
15" rules!!!
excellent job!
I think overall the 12” sounds the best to me.
Very good show, thank you!!!
Where can I find a video like this playing a riff with drop A tuning on each speaker? I cant find any videos with metal players they all seem to be playing funk or jazz
Is the microphone already connect to laptop or pc?
gosh I wish I had IRs of all of those !
there is three models of 15" eminence bass speakers , which one is installed in the Rumble ?
10 and 12" sound better to me. 15", not so much. 8" ones have to be combined with others and x-overs so that they can be dedicated to mids.
I do have a 4x8“ cab (600 watts equipped with celestions) and it sounds wonderful (even the low b!). So the only x-over you‘ll need is for the 1“-driver in the cab!
very good good work guy¡¡¡¡....but this video seems to put my mind upside down ..i can´t belive that eminence 10" of R500 soundd more bassy than eminence 15" of R200....I believed that gradually, with more diameter, the same ampli would sound more bassy.. even more being from the same manufacturer.
if EQ it´s really the same,I suposse there are more factors of speaker cone , its material density ,conicity thereof,the area of the cone covering the central spherical cap...
The case is that it amazes me ,I am looking for a deep bass sound that is heard very defined the tuning of the notes in the fourth and fifth string... after trying the Rumble 100 with 12" ,with volume beyond 2 I discovered that I lost a lot of definition , after that I was convinced that i would need an amp with 15" speaker.. but this video has left me confused woww
Those 10 in made my car rattle compared to all the other sizes
Why does the 10 sound sweeter and deeper than the 12 and 15 ?
Great video, thank you
Excellent
The Fender website lists the Rumble 15, Rumble 25 and Rumble 40 as having "Fender Special Design" speakers and only mentions "Eminence" speakers on the 100 upwards. So I'd like to know which amp am I hearing that's labeled as an "Eminence 8 inch"?
They might have changed since this video was shot.
Which amp has the eminence 8 inch?
which model of eminence is it?
I like these new rumble amps. I have the Rumble 40 and it sounds very good but I don't think these cheap eminence speakers they put in do them any justice. The eq section is excellent compared to a lot of expensive bass amps and from what i've read a speaker swap can make a huge difference. I think the move is to buy a used one and upgrade the speaker so your costs don't get unjustified so to speak. Again I think Fender hit a home run as far as the eq section is concerned but could really have dominated the market had they put in a Faital type quality speaker in these models as to possibly move away from the stigma that the rumble series is an entry level amp.
What are you thinking of for a replacement speaker?
The Eminence Basslite S2010 seems to be the best option from everything i've read. Apparently plugging one of the ports and putting in a bit more foam on the inside of the cab along with the new speaker makes a huge difference in the sound.
for me the best sound was the eminence 12 and 8
Much needed Info - Please compare all the brands/heads, ext speakers..... Now get to work...LOL
15's when mic'ed up and played properly are not muddy, they bring those cool blue bass frequencies that we the people want SON