May I make a suggestion? Maybe heat the end of the pvc pipe, about a foot in length, and squash it to widen it to spread the flow across the paddle of the wheel to eliminate the splash back as the water enters the scoop?
I wouldn't flatten the pipe (a flattened pipe actually carries less volume), as much as just make a Louvre or fender to force the water DOWN and into the paddles (sorta like the orange thing in very beginning of vid, but upside down and curved down). Then I would move the wheel center just slightly behind the end of the pipe (so the pipe overhangs the wheel center). This will ensure that gravity AND the lateral speed of the water have maximum effect on the edge of the wheel, and the Louvre/fender should allow any high flow (from rain, snow melt, etc) without restricting flow or wasting the extra lateral motion of extra volume of water shooting past the wheel. Overhanging the pipe past the wheel center will ensure that the wheel still gets the most power during low water flow, where gravity will do more work than the speed of the water.
Oh man I never said "oh ffs" this many times in that short period of time. To lazy to use measuring tape or any measuring tool, but hard-working - especially with the cement blocks. Dammm
That slow-mo was very useful - wouldn't thought about water being carried on a wrong side of the paddle when it meets the wheel, especially with no load!
Yay, the waterwheel is back (and darn my computer for having an issue with RUclips so I missed the release of the video) looking forward to seeing both the wheel and the turbine making you power, soon you should be able to supply your neighbors energy needs too (lol)
In an earlier video you complained about your lack of motivation.. now I see you out in the cold rain playing with water. I'm glad you are as motivated as you are, thank you for making these videos.
Я 11 лет назад такую идею хотел воплотить в реальность), для диодного освещения небольшого свинарника)). Но мне не разрешили строить в водоохранной зоне... Спасибо за видео))
Is the pipe underground going up somewhere? Why does the water in the blue pipe flow upwards? In other words, does the stream come to you from the mountain through a closed pipe, the beginning of which is higher than your wheel?
Find an old balance/hoverboard and use one of the wheels as they make good brushless generators usually can pick them up for free or really cheap as the batteries die because balance charge board gives up sometimes the cells are still good good to see you back at it
@9:48 Flow dynamics. Your wheel is being turned by the speed/force of the water as it discharges from the pipe onto the blades of your wheel. If you were to spread/distribute the water evenly across the width of your blades, it would be the weight of the the water inside each blade that turns the wheel. Just a thought.
great work! I wonder if we can calculate the load the generator is putting on the wheel based on the amount of water in the cups as it rotates around? There was a significant difference between unloaded and loaded.
Metele un hamster así gira un poco más. ¡Ah! tenés los álabes al revés o bién podés dar vuelta la rueda. Si haces la modificación podés prescindir del hamster. Saludos
So many questions so few explanations. Is the water source a spring? Home irrigation system? Constant flow? Limited to rain cycles? Wood rot worries? Could one use gears for a solar powered water pump from a farm pound to power a water wheel that produces more than the pump could consume and the gear it for upscaled power generation?
I think you can get more power out of your water head if you extend your pipe slightly over the wheel so that the water falls a few inches before contacting the wheel. You might try an adjustable length slip pipe that you can tune the point that the water exits the pipe.
Yes, move water contact to wheel center or past. Load the buckets across the wheel's width by tee and short nipples vented across their bottom. ruclips.net/video/uctYUnaRr8Y/видео.html RPM shown is 12-15 using 40% of a 4 inch supply, cold start requires 2 buckets to load (about 75 gallon).
I Think the Water is hitting the wheel at the wrong point. THE Wheel is Naturally Trying to Reverse. Move the wheel back to have the flow hitting the wheel at the 11:00 o'clock point ? Or at least Just over & beyond the upper center point of the wheel. The water looks to be pushing the wheel UP HILL here. The water must push the wheel in a Downwards motion. = Extend the blue pipe by 4 to 6 inches ? To Gain more speed & power from the flow. You could also Test / Trial this idea, Make the end of the pipe graduate to a smaller outlet hole to increase the water pressure. ( but this may also Decrease the flow slightly ? ) I like your Set up. Hence i offer advice & ideas to try.
Love the old water wheels, fascinating somehow watching them do their thing. Wish I had a stream near me to play with. Might have to put that on the list for the next house move lol
I know its been 7 months but if you have the property, and slightly hilly land you could always make yourself a nice sized pond that creates a small stream
faz ela um pouco maior e bote um gerador eletrico de 800W ligue uma bomab d agua 300w bote uma caixa d agua 2,5 mt de altura 400w >>>bomba realimentar a caixa e 400w "energia infinita"
Beh... Complimenti che dire sei bravissimo hai mostrato che intelligenza non è un pignone, e la tua semplicità mostra quanto ci vuole preparare un alimentazione a 220v importante e avere le regole base per soddisfare minimo indispensabile grazie per aver condiviso il tuo lavoro aspetto le tue novità a presto. Greetings from Italy.
The the world economy continues to deteriorate, we are going to see more and more of this. People making power from what's a hand, living in trucks, cars and sheds. Great to be ahead of the game. You never know what the weather or other factors will bring.
از این پتانسیل جهت چرخاندن توربین آبی فکر بسیار خوبی است فکر دیگر اینکه فشار مطلق بالای تانک را بایستی اندازه گیری کرد و از وکیوم آن جهت پایین آوردن نقطه جوش مایعات استفاده کرد مثلاً برای رب گوجه در روستاها امیدوارم فکرها در جهت بهتر کردن زندگی روستاها باشد
I better just take a breather an sigh Etheir I'm high or I'm nut, cause if you aint tiltin this flume nether am I -eminem Looks like its flowing uphill
you could try gluing magnets to the flywheel and have a bunch of coils spaced around the flywheel. it looks like you water pipe is higher at the end than the beginning.
Unfortunately you don't have always that water flow right? I'm considering building a water wheel or a small peltom wheel, which one would you recommend? I live off grid and could leave the batteries charging there and exchange them when they're full. Thanks!! Great project
I really depends on the pressure and how high you can get the water up. The volume would be something as well. You either need very high pressure or very high flow with low pressure. You might make 100 watts. Yet you also have to consider where you will be dumping all of this water.
i like this video because it shows how something is done in real life meaning with faults and trying to fix it alone without any help and only due to learning by doing.
You've done a good set up but positioning the wheel under the pipe would make a great deal of difference as far as efficiency goes. More efficiency more electric produced, good luck.
I love to tinker with things like this unfortunately I don’t have a small controllable stream all I have is a huge wild creak that fluctuates up to 20 foot
PRA ACABAR ESSA LENGA LENGA NO BARRO ERA SÓ ELE VIRAR A RODA PRO OUTRO LADO QUE A ÁGUA IA RODAR ELA CORRETAMENTE,SE FOSSE BRASILEIRO E MINEIRO JÁ TINHA FEITO ASSIM
I simply don't believe that that water wheel with that flow rate is able to produce ANYTHING like 500w. I've seen 500W turbines and they have 10 times the flow and dozens of metres of head.
Good to see you back with more videos! I was going to ask you this question when you was working on the water wheel at the old place,,, would incorporating the idea of an 20 speed bike - chain, derailleur, and multiple sprockets - be of any use to increase your overall speed for the little amount of force the wheel is using?
It wouldn't. RPM isn't a factor until you're at the maximum speed of the turbine, and this is far under that point while under load. Basically, there's no way to get more power out of a given amount of water and a given amount of head (drop) and if you don't have enough water, nothing you do makes much of a difference.
@@JoeMalovich great Koe. Ever tried using a riding mower rear end for a speed INCREASER?. Could find one pretty cheep if not free. Wheel driving trans output and measure rpm at the input
The best way to increase power here is to increase the size of the wheel.. the greater the diameter (and also width), the more water(or weight) the wheel can effectively hold. The increased weight increases the power the wheel can develop. Of course, there is a limit. The bigger the cups/buckets are, the longer they take to fill and the slower the wheel turns. It's a fine balancing act. Sometimes, it's better to accept a lower output...
Not an entirely dumb question, i don't think so anyways. Could you not string together multiple of these in a row or multiple of the same thing just using ''leftover''/waste water by this thing? Obviously the height or some ammount of flow from a height different is a factor, but the water collected, then back into another wheel?
Yes you can. A larger waterwheel of a reasonable size is more efficient than multiple small waterfalls in a cascade. For example I want to build a 6ft wheel in this site.
Perhaps...it just didn't seem to be obvious which type of water wheel he had designed...the buckets to catch the water seemed to be configured to use the overshot flow of water (over the top of the wheel and in the same direction as the wheel spins.) A pitchback wheel would have the buckets built to catch water directly falling into the buckets below the top of the wheel, with the wheel spinning in the opposite direction to the direction of flow... An undershot wheel just sticks the bottom buckets in a flowing stream of water and the wheel, of course, spins in the direction of the flow.... www.alternative-energy-tutorials.com/hydro-energy/waterwheel-design.html
May I make a suggestion?
Maybe heat the end of the pvc pipe, about a foot in length, and squash it to widen it to
spread the flow across the paddle of the wheel to eliminate the splash back as the water enters the scoop?
I'm just a bit concerned about ice build up on the chain from the
splashing is why i suggest to widen the pipe a bit, not squash it totally flat! LOL
I'm switching to a timing belt of sorts, and I'll guard it if ice is an issue.
I wouldn't flatten the pipe (a flattened pipe actually carries less volume), as much as just make a Louvre or fender to force the water DOWN and into the paddles (sorta like the orange thing in very beginning of vid, but upside down and curved down).
Then I would move the wheel center just slightly behind the end of the pipe (so the pipe overhangs the wheel center). This will ensure that gravity AND the lateral speed of the water have maximum effect on the edge of the wheel, and the Louvre/fender should allow any high flow (from rain, snow melt, etc) without restricting flow or wasting the extra lateral motion of extra volume of water shooting past the wheel.
Overhanging the pipe past the wheel center will ensure that the wheel still gets the most power during low water flow, where gravity will do more work than the speed of the water.
@@tyrzxv don't think he cares based off his reply
I like his "eyeball" method of set up.
Oh man I never said "oh ffs" this many times in that short period of time. To lazy to use measuring tape or any measuring tool, but hard-working - especially with the cement blocks. Dammm
He's an intuiter lol
I suspect you are loosing some watts with water falling too backward in the turbine. try mooving the mill just a bit forward :-)
I know I'm a geek when I watch slow mo of a water wheel and feel "ahhh".
I'm right there with you🥴
Same dude same 😂
That slow-mo was very useful - wouldn't thought about water being carried on a wrong side of the paddle when it meets the wheel, especially with no load!
Yeah, I thiought the same. Maybe he should reduce the diameter of pipe over distance to gain more pressure?...
PLEASE MORE!! THESE VIDEOS ARE AMAZING AND NEED TO BE WATCHED. YOU DESERVE MORE FAME, DUDE!!!!!!!!
How are you making energy?
Yay, the waterwheel is back (and darn my computer for having an issue with RUclips so I missed the release of the video) looking forward to seeing both the wheel and the turbine making you power, soon you should be able to supply your neighbors energy needs too (lol)
his kids will tell their kids.. look how our father was charging phone in 2020.
In an earlier video you complained about your lack of motivation.. now I see you out in the cold rain playing with water.
I'm glad you are as motivated as you are, thank you for making these videos.
Good to see this again, the previous waterwheel is when I started watching.
Я 11 лет назад такую идею хотел воплотить в реальность), для диодного освещения небольшого свинарника)). Но мне не разрешили строить в водоохранной зоне... Спасибо за видео))
А если бы у меня на участке ручей протекал, я бы выкопал пруд и выращивал форель.А так конечно круто, бесплатная энергия.
Love how he spends so much time an effort on the wood but the rocks are just Mickey Mouse time....
Nice way to spend spare time. Great project...👍👍👍
After such a long time your waterwheel is back to business! This once was the reason to subscribe to your channel. Nice to see it working again.
Yes, the waterwheel was the reason I also subscribed. What a time to be alive, such content is free for us to consume on demand.
It's good to look at, but highly inefficient, pelton wheel with a variable nozzle would be a lot more efficient
Not enough head pressure. Pelton wheels need a lot of velocity and pressure to work.
It's really wonderful. Your efforts towards success is highly appreciated.
Bushcraft design and engineering.
I'm really curious on how much power you can get from this :D Greetings from Germany!
Not much
@@JoeMalovich yes but unlike solar it's more or less constant
10 Watts maybe.
Is the pipe underground going up somewhere? Why does the water in the blue pipe flow upwards?
In other words, does the stream come to you from the mountain through a closed pipe, the beginning of which is higher than your wheel?
Find an old balance/hoverboard and use one of the wheels as they make good brushless generators usually can pick them up for free or really cheap as the batteries die because balance charge board gives up sometimes the cells are still good good to see you back at it
You could also use a reworked fisher & paykal washing machine smart drive motor. That can generate a bunch of power.
Q povo nada,o povo ja foi as ruas varias veses e dia 7 a maior e o presidente nao agiu foi fala com o inimigo ai fica dificel pra nos
I like where this is going
Round and round
@@jamess1787 I was thinking downhill quickly.
@@BRPEngineering No downhill quickly is the hose to the micro hydro.
Me too...
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@9:48 Flow dynamics. Your wheel is being turned by the speed/force of the water as it discharges from the pipe onto the blades of your wheel. If you were to spread/distribute the water evenly across the width of your blades, it would be the weight of the the water inside each blade that turns the wheel. Just a thought.
Yep
yes, or make little cups instead of the pipe fins
That would improve the speed you think?
Que a HUMANIDADE possa viver
no AMOR, com o AMOR e para o AMOR ,
na LUZ, com a LUZ e para a LUZ ,
na PAZ , com a PAZ e para a PAZ..... gratidão
great work! I wonder if we can calculate the load the generator is putting on the wheel based on the amount of water in the cups as it rotates around? There was a significant difference between unloaded and loaded.
With the wheel turned around, the paddles catch more water giving the wheel more torque?
wrong
@@popovichvondesastre ok. Thanks for clarifying.
Metele un hamster así gira un poco más. ¡Ah! tenés los álabes al revés o bién podés dar vuelta la rueda.
Si haces la modificación podés prescindir del hamster.
Saludos
So many questions so few explanations. Is the water source a spring? Home irrigation system? Constant flow? Limited to rain cycles? Wood rot worries? Could one use gears for a solar powered water pump from a farm pound to power a water wheel that produces more than the pump could consume and the gear it for upscaled power generation?
I think you can get more power out of your water head if you extend your pipe slightly over the wheel so that the water falls a few inches before contacting the wheel. You might try an adjustable length slip pipe that you can tune the point that the water exits the pipe.
Yes, move water contact to wheel center or past. Load the buckets across the wheel's width by tee and short nipples vented across their bottom.
ruclips.net/video/uctYUnaRr8Y/видео.html
RPM shown is 12-15 using 40% of a 4 inch supply, cold start requires 2 buckets to load (about 75 gallon).
I Think the Water is hitting the wheel at the wrong point. THE Wheel is Naturally Trying to Reverse.
Move the wheel back to have the flow hitting the wheel at the 11:00 o'clock point ?
Or at least Just over & beyond the upper center point of the wheel.
The water looks to be pushing the wheel UP HILL here.
The water must push the wheel in a Downwards motion. = Extend the blue pipe by 4 to 6 inches ? To Gain more speed & power from the flow.
You could also Test / Trial this idea, Make the end of the pipe graduate to a smaller outlet hole to increase the water pressure. ( but this may also Decrease the flow slightly ? )
I like your Set up. Hence i offer advice & ideas to try.
Love the old water wheels, fascinating somehow watching them do their thing.
Wish I had a stream near me to play with.
Might have to put that on the list for the next house move lol
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I know its been 7 months but if you have the property, and slightly hilly land you could always make yourself a nice sized pond that creates a small stream
Whew! Some jobs are a lot easier with a helper...
If I was there, I would definitely help to move things. keep the spirit friends and keep working
A would have been helpful. I'm surprised how much power you got from so little water and so short a fall. I forget how heavy it is.
faz ela um pouco maior e bote um gerador eletrico de 800W ligue uma bomab d agua 300w bote uma caixa d agua 2,5 mt de altura 400w >>>bomba realimentar a caixa e 400w "energia infinita"
nice
that was painful to watch
Needs a bigger primary cog on the wheel and a real PMA. And do not buy that crap from Missouri.
Beh... Complimenti che dire sei bravissimo hai mostrato che intelligenza non è un pignone, e la tua semplicità mostra quanto ci vuole preparare un alimentazione a 220v importante e avere le regole base per soddisfare minimo indispensabile grazie per aver condiviso il tuo lavoro aspetto le tue novità a presto. Greetings from Italy.
The the world economy continues to deteriorate, we are going to see more and more of this. People making power from what's a hand, living in trucks, cars and sheds. Great to be ahead of the game. You never know what the weather or other factors will bring.
از این پتانسیل جهت چرخاندن توربین آبی فکر بسیار خوبی است
فکر دیگر اینکه فشار مطلق بالای تانک را بایستی اندازه گیری کرد و از وکیوم آن جهت پایین آوردن نقطه جوش مایعات استفاده کرد مثلاً برای رب گوجه در روستاها
امیدوارم فکرها در جهت بهتر کردن زندگی روستاها باشد
I better just take a breather an sigh
Etheir I'm high or I'm nut, cause if you aint tiltin this flume nether am I
-eminem
Looks like its flowing uphill
I wanna build one of these! 😱😁👍👍🇺🇲
you could try gluing magnets to the flywheel and have a bunch of coils spaced around the flywheel. it looks like you water pipe is higher at the end than the beginning.
Unfortunately you don't have always that water flow right? I'm considering building a water wheel or a small peltom wheel, which one would you recommend? I live off grid and could leave the batteries charging there and exchange them when they're full. Thanks!! Great project
Here in Scotland water isn't metered, it's free from the tap. I've often wondered if i could get "free" electricity from running the tap/s!
I really depends on the pressure and how high you can get the water up. The volume would be something as well. You either need very high pressure or very high flow with low pressure. You might make 100 watts. Yet you also have to consider where you will be dumping all of this water.
William Glaser, well he's finished with the water at that point so I'm guessing his neighbor will enjoy the new stream. 🤡
@@brwpe7733 Flood his yard good!
First the wheel foundation is built, then the wheel is fitted and only then are the water pipes fitted.
You do it like a Russian engineer 🤣😂🤣😂
Вот бездельник что думал?!
My house backs up to the St Joseph river in Northern Indiana. What kind of setup can I use to harvest energy?
Literally was just thinking hey wonder how it’s going and pops up on my recommendations 😳
Small capacity water generator
братан, ты гэс придумал, а сапоги не придумал по грязи ходить)
i like this video because it shows how something is done in real life meaning with faults and trying to fix it alone without any help and only due to learning by doing.
Trial and error is one of the best ways to learn IMO.
Excelent!
Thanks! It's not quite as "hot" as your content though.
Exelente me gustaría saber las medidas del aparato, salud
Good slow motion to see how the water pushes or katches the blades.
Need the water to fall father forward, will improve speed of wheel. It's hitting on top.
Good job. I love seeing the old water wheel again. Now go do something about that mullet !
That's not even close to a Mullet....
enjoyed the video, only thing i was hoping to see was a amp/volt of what it was generating. keep it up.
a shut off gate on the water supply would had went a long way........just saying
creative
8:29 Little henny doesn’t know that it also doubles as a feather pl-----ker
You've done a good set up but positioning the wheel under the pipe would make a great deal of difference as far as efficiency goes. More efficiency more electric produced, good luck.
I love to tinker with things like this unfortunately I don’t have a small controllable stream all I have is a huge wild creak that fluctuates up to 20 foot
PRA ACABAR ESSA LENGA LENGA NO BARRO ERA SÓ ELE VIRAR A RODA PRO OUTRO LADO QUE A ÁGUA IA RODAR ELA CORRETAMENTE,SE FOSSE BRASILEIRO E MINEIRO JÁ TINHA FEITO ASSIM
Eh ... quel est le but de la manoeuvre ... faire de l'électricité je suppose mais à quelle fin ! bof on connaissait déjà cette solution.
I like how you winged it and stuck with it to make it work great job bro props
I simply don't believe that that water wheel with that flow rate is able to produce ANYTHING like 500w. I've seen 500W turbines and they have 10 times the flow and dozens of metres of head.
I never said 500 for the waterwheel. Think 10.
eugostei
Enaknya kalau mesin alat kerja lengkap semuanya seperti didlm video ini
Good to see you back with more videos!
I was going to ask you this question when you was working on the water wheel at the old place,,, would incorporating the idea of an 20 speed bike - chain, derailleur, and multiple sprockets - be of any use to increase your overall speed for the little amount of force the wheel is using?
It wouldn't. RPM isn't a factor until you're at the maximum speed of the turbine, and this is far under that point while under load.
Basically, there's no way to get more power out of a given amount of water and a given amount of head (drop) and if you don't have enough water, nothing you do makes much of a difference.
Yes and no, I do have gears to get the motor up to high enough generating rpms/volts.
@@JoeMalovich great Koe. Ever tried using a riding mower rear end for a speed INCREASER?. Could find one pretty cheep if not free. Wheel driving trans output and measure rpm at the input
The best way to increase power here is to increase the size of the wheel.. the greater the diameter (and also width), the more water(or weight) the wheel can effectively hold. The increased weight increases the power the wheel can develop. Of course, there is a limit. The bigger the cups/buckets are, the longer they take to fill and the slower the wheel turns. It's a fine balancing act. Sometimes, it's better to accept a lower output...
Tighten the chain, and make a better frame to increase efficiency 🤔🤔🤔
Excelente ângulo nós caixilhos! Parabéns, ótimo vídeo!
…I’d have kicked the thing over a long time ago and ate one of those chickens.
it's wooden, I wouldn't worry about rough edges, haha! awesome video! thanks for sharing!
Boa tarde chegando pra ficar muito bom venha conhecer o meu cantinho e obrigado
Not an entirely dumb question, i don't think so anyways. Could you not string together multiple of these in a row or multiple of the same thing just using ''leftover''/waste water by this thing? Obviously the height or some ammount of flow from a height different is a factor, but the water collected, then back into another wheel?
Yes you can. A larger waterwheel of a reasonable size is more efficient than multiple small waterfalls in a cascade. For example I want to build a 6ft wheel in this site.
水の落ちる一が 悪いもう少し 回転がスムーズに回る一に 落とさないと 水の落ちる力が 無駄になるよ。
ハイテクな道具使う割には雑過ぎる、馬鹿みたいに計画性が無い。 合板の水車に耐久性はあるのか？
i would like to know how many volts this water wheel produces
Show technical side of your project not the slow motion of water.
Wasted my time watching your video..
Your input in appreciated.
Turbin air pembangkit listrik ruclips.net/video/b6KcT5ZOvOA/видео.html
GOOD JOB !!!!!!!!!!! BRAVO ! :)
Regars - Paul P.
better , but some mistake , the wood wheal is high weight ,etc nice
I really like this idea how would i get it to power up a battery.
Where had it gone?
in my garage collecting dust
I also work on this topic which is quite interesting
Why would you put your pants OVER your rubber boots ? lol
Fat calves
@@JoeMalovich Shorts! :)
Daca inversati roata aveti mai mare randament la rotatii ,deoarece apa nu vine cu forta mare
diggeth a whole so as to be tilting the pipe some more down the hill
Za małe kolo I tutaj proponuję kolo nadsiebierne silne
Tire small inner tube, slip pipe into center inflate tube
What CNC is that?
2
That and more is in the description
@@JoeMalovich thanks
It is not obvious to him but he has designed it backwards. All he needed to do was turn it 180 degrees on the install.
Perhaps...it just didn't seem to be obvious which type of water wheel he had designed...the buckets to catch the water seemed to be configured to use the overshot flow of water (over the top of the wheel and in the same direction as the wheel spins.)
A pitchback wheel would have the buckets built to catch water directly falling into the buckets below the top of the wheel, with the wheel spinning in the opposite direction to the direction of flow...
An undershot wheel just sticks the bottom buckets in a flowing stream of water and the wheel, of course, spins in the direction of the flow....
www.alternative-energy-tutorials.com/hydro-energy/waterwheel-design.html
Einfach herrlich wie dämlich man sich anstellen kann wenn es um das einfache stützen von Rohren geht
Wow you can generate thunder with this wheel
How much wattage / current can you get it to produce?
Yay! The waterwheel was my favorite! Super excited to see it return.
Тот ещё изабретун🤣