I've seen that last mobo in action. It goes in a waterproof industrial computer with integrated touchscreen. We used them at work for displaying drilling information on oil drill rig floors. The CPU and GPU are heat sunk to the chassis. The SATA ports are broken out to a pair of 2.5 inch bays. Everything is sealed with double Orings with an IP67 rating to withstand a drirect blast from an industrial pressure washer. They worked well for our purpose with a single connector for power and networking to run back to the site office trailer.
That's awesome! I had guessed maybe some sort of medical device due to recognizing "EPIC" as the name of a medical devices company, but came to the comments looking for more. That's really cool!
Oh I thought it is a motherboard for thin client devices as I have a thin client device repuposed as an OpenWRT based router which use this kind of motherboard (but without any kind of graphic hardware), and it's passive ventilation relies on customized fins.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 because he is the macro king and he wants to become the macro emperor. So he needs more macros to expand his kingdom into an empire
That first motherboard would be extremely helpful with remote astronomy observatories. I’m a deep sky imager and basically every single imager out there is using multiple large array USB hubs. Astronomy cameras are pushing big data files, especially if you’re doing lunar / solar / planetary imaging. When you add in all the other tools needed, it’s quite common to need at least 10 USB ports - even more if you’re running dual camera setups, which is really common for remote observatories.
It is definitely worth revising the extreme temperature environments. In fact, a whole series with various industrial conditions affecting regular PCs is very interesting.
FYI: crazy usb requirements: exotic flight simulator setups with a lot of external hardware. My desktop setup for an A10 flight simulator for DCS uses (throttle, joystick, rudder pedals, 4 external usb joystick cards, 4 arduinos, 2 mfd devices, a UFC device, a trackir device, a jetseat, a mini usb keyboard, powering a monitor over usb) that's 19 right there! plus normal keyboard, mouse, headset, etc. and my sim setup is missing a TON of stuff and always looking to add more. i have 3 powered external hubs in my various parts of the sim! but yes, it is VERY niche :)
flight simulators usually need a PC with a lot of grunt on the component side, by using that mobo with all those usb ports you are restricting yourself to... what will fit on that mobo. Plus all the usb devices will be vampiring power from your pc. The setup you are using, which probably has a far higher quality mobo than the one with all those internal usb ports, and using powered usb hubs instead, is a far better solution. I would presume that mobo is for something with very little bandwidth and computational requirements - cctv for instance.
I don't think Linus could have delivered that segue with anything close to the same certainty if it was Debrand. They don't really exist, just a figment of Linus' nightmares
Im using like 10 right now requiring 2 usb hubs. One is usb-c thankfully for the more power /data intensive parts. And i still have so many things i can add.
Oh....."Proprietary Motherboards for NOT the PC-Gaming World".........YAWWWWWWN!! BTW......SugarBear over there needs a serious Bronzablonda GEICO Bro-Stache or sumpin'. 😆😂🤣
Recently took apart an old DVR (Digital Video Recorder) - and was interested to find that it was a fairly standard looking Pentium-II motherboard, but had a riser with 24 analog BNC inputs above the standard rear panel I/O connectors.
"PC In A Freezer" has always been my "Theoretical Best Performance" idea, but I haven't figured out all of the solutions yet, and I'd love to see how you guys get around certain problems (condensation, seals, etc). Please please please make one
Phase change cooling works. Insulate, seal up and you're good to go, with a ridiculously expensive and power hungry setup, but subzero is quite possible. Sticking your PC in a freezer, depending on the freezer's quality and construction, might not result in any condensation whatsoever. It will probably kill the freezer, though. I've run a PC outside(under shelter) in subzero temps, zero issues because no parts are ever below ambient...never ran it at below -30 C, mind you.
I had a thought like that about 30 years ago. Not long after a company called Kryotech unveiled tech similar to my idea. The product they ultimately started selling was a computer case that had a compressor in the bottom of the case. Something about vapor phase cooling or some such thing. Eventually there were ads surfacing for a highly overclocked AMD systems using one of these cases. Short lived product, but variants of the tech wended its way into climate controlled server racks.
Freezers are made to slowly cool things and then keep them cool at low energy costs. If you put something that actively keeps putting out heat, it won't be able to keep up and because it's so well insulated it'll turn into a hot box. The closest to your idea what they've already done and what's actually feasible is probably this ruclips.net/video/r7pqc26TWAg/видео.html Edit: oh, I didn't think of industrial freezers and now I see that part in the video. It'd be bomb if they revisited that yea
That first motherboard has single pin 'Aero Connectors' - popular in the aviation and analogue broadcast industries though I've never seen them with one pin! That 20 USB board would be superb for running Open Media Vault with lots of USB drives - if you really hate yourself as much as RAID and decent throughput LOL
RUclips has ruined me because I wondered what Shadow Legends had to do with anything for the briefest of moments. Edit: There are two types of people in the world...
PC in an industrial freezer sounds cool. I'm working on an automation project for the food industry and have been looking into all the issues that might cause (condensation etc.). Would love to see your insights.
I would think your best option would be a AOC computer where all the exposed contacts and connections are encased in like a non conductive resin that would keep the moisture from making direct contact with the computer parts. Besides that you would have to start making a special housing and ensuring that it's well sealed against temperature and humidity changes.
That Portwell board would be amazing for building a Hauptwerk virtual organ setup. Those always need endless IO, the bigger the pipe organ you want to control, the more control surfaces you need to connect. Low bandwidth, as it’s MIDI only, but you need LOTS of MIDI over LOTS of USB. My small 3 manual setup requires 2 display ports and 8 USB ports. One for PC keyboard, one for the sound interface, one for the pedalboard, 3 for manuals (MIDI keyboards) and two for stop jambs (Novation Launchpad Minis in my case) If you wanted to build a 5 manual organ controller with status displays and motorised control surfaces, needing somewhere between 10 to 15 USB ports is not out of the question. Assuming that board can handle at least 128GB of RAM, or maybe up to 256GB, you could use it to build the most epic Hauptwerk setup ever.
@@haylanhead5820 if you work at dell i really want to know why they always use their own standards(or earlier the BTX standard that never went anywhere) It makes it pretty though keeping things running for a long time(which is probably why dell does it)
Outside of industrial manufacturing the most common uses I could see where you would need that many USB ports is modern arcade games like some of the fancy racing simulators you find at Dave & Buster’s, after all those things run windows and have a bunch of features that probably all plug-in with USB, any self contained kiosk that has a bunch of peripherals that plug-in via USB like for example an ATM, a self-service ordering kiosk at a fast food place where you have things like a touchscreen, a card reader, receipt printer cash dispenser etc. and then home flight simulator or American truck simulator set ups where you have a bunch of plug-in peripherals or macro set ups, think racing wheel with pedals, shifter, VR headset, custom button panels etc.
I've gotta say, that motherboard with the rear-mounted CPU looks so clean. The flat black board without any of the visible traces or tiny components on the front is really visually appealing. I'd totally be interested in one if it was possible to have the cpu be on the normal side, but leave all those small components on the back.
Usually if you mount all of small components on rear you have fire hazard, because you will need to have longer stands to avoid touching the case and motherboard. Also this will misalign rear io hole. I fried some thing just by dropping cpu cooler retention bracket on top of it and it shorted with component nearby with fire but for a few seconds only.
Especially considering how stingy motherboard seem to be now and days. "Hey, I need like 8 usb ports plus maybe a couple extra for less than $200" Motherboard manufactures "best I can do is 5"
The “ITX” board (the last one) is for a media player! Thus the two sata power jacks. Depending on the model either the HDMI or the VGA port would be concealed by the enclosure.
@@sholzapfeld have two looking at me I pulled from media players. Don’t be an insufferable. “They also are used as a custom setup for running pfsense.”
There are smaller ones, than that itx me, like 3.5" SBCs, usually those are neatly packed in an all aluminum casing with somtimes vesa compliant mounting. Those can be mounted inside of slot machines, gaming tables, atms and many more enclosed low power environments. They mainly come with intel n200/400/500 and rarely with z500 atoms, one bank of sodimm ddr2 or ddr3, cf socket and sata, coupled with intel gma 900 gpus. Win XP embedded is OS of choice for those 4 to 8 watt machines. Almost all of those 3.5" and smaller feature lvds headers for direct communication with displays, settings of display timing and channel width can be directly adjusted in bios, furthermore those host a slew of old style rs 232, 422, 485 and other more rare connections and protocol. If your in field and need a low power super versatile stand alone solution to get you some ground piercing radar and other equipment going, these are the devices you would want. If you look for something for win xp gaming... look somewhere else, these SBCs never have a decent gpu on them or at least an express card slot or mini pcie socket. Expect performance same as netbooks from around 2008 to 2010. Companies I know for those SBCs are iei and ibase, there are some others though.
Not only would I like to see more of these oddball mother boards, but I think it would be cool to see one actually built and used for whatever niche function it was made for.
Wwwwwwwwhat are ya plugging in besides webcam, keyboard and mouse??? And headphone/set and microphone (or alternatively those 2 connected to an amplifier)???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Well you named 5 right there which is already a lot of USB Real Estate. I like having a wired and wireless keyboard at the ready, my android connected for charging and file transfer, a stream deck, capture card, when the 3DS was supported I also had my 3DS Capture Card, and I find myself randomly plugging in other things from time to time
1:31 I can and I want! If you produce music on PC and you use external gear such as external synthesizers, effects, midi keyboards, etc., then you will quickly run out of USB ports. I believe my current motherboard has 10 USB ports, and that is not enough for my current setup, so I'm looking for a PCI USB expansion card. And it's not even because my setup is particularly big. I have 3 synthesizers, a drum machine, a sampler, an effects unit, an audio interface, a midi controller. digital recorder with stereo mic, mouse, keybouard and I need more USB ports, many more usb ports.
The first motherboard looks like it might be a specialty board for something like a security camera server. I wonder what power those type A ports deliver.
Unlikely, the range of USB is simply to short (5 meters for USB 2, 3m for USB 3). Most security cameras use ordinary network cables and PoE for power. Boards like this are used for industrial purposes and the "cameras" Linus mentioned are cameras that check parts, colors or labels in a production process. I used a board like this once: I was working at a company that machined plastic parts and a customer - for some reason - wanted a 100% measurement and logging of each of the 5,000 parts they ordered. It took the machine about 4 minutes to produce the part, but the worker would have needed more than 10 minutes to meassure all the required values and write down the results. So we had to make an automated measuring and logging station - on a budget! We used a bunch of USB powered probes and pneumatics to move them, so the worker could place the part in the station, press a button and everything was done automatically within a few seconds. All probes were connected to a laptop with a logging software via a hub, but even though we used an "industrial grade" USB hub it was a bugfest! In theory, you can connect up to 127 devices to one port, in practice we constantly had probes that failed to activate or delivered wacky values, it was a nightmare... When the customer came back and ordered 8,000 more parts with the same requirements, we bought a board like the one in the video and it worked like a charm.
I could see the last board (11:15) being in a thin client device that would be used in something like a HP t310 for the food industry like fast food displays that show orders to the staff bagging food and making food
Love that when he said at the end there was another motherboard that they wanted to show and "It only has 2 RAM slots" I immedietely looked down at my pc in shame xD
"If it was a system of the body it would be kind of like your circulatory system and your nervous system" So I would have to feed it blood thinners and migraine meds?
I am also on vr and need 4 ports bc of fbt. Then mouse keybord webcam iluminated mousepad monitor steering wheel and flightstick that makes 11. I also have quite a lot of external drives and like to stuff with arduinos. It dosn't work without usb hubs i can see myself tanking 20 usb ports as a selling point.
Weird motherboards are interesting. Extreme motherboards would be interesting, too. I'd take a video about that (I'll search to see if one exists, too).
Because there are a lot of USB MIDI devices without actual MIDI In/Out/Thru ports. A USB hub usually causes more problems than you were bargaining for, especially if the link to the hub drops. I've worked for livestreaming events, we used many USB devices and when a hub had to be brought in... problems were to be expected. Sure, you can use keyboard and mouse on a hub no problem. Even simple USB MIDI keyboards are fine, just don't connect a camera with other audio interfaces over a hub.
There's also HM87 chipset ones that takes 4th Gen laptop CPUs. Mind you that it's likely not worth it to buy laptop CPUs for that. It's only a good deal if you are scavenging the CPU from a broken laptop.
Linus, when you showed that first motherboard I IMMEDIATELY got excited because that is actually perfect for a project I'm working on, in industrial automation of course haha
3:36 this should be the future considering larger and larger graphics cards sags or gets removed from shippping. additionally, cards mounted to steel or aluminum could allow easier mounting of CPU coolers to graphics cards
The motherboard in the thumbnail has too few USB ports for me. What? It’s too many ports for you? But I need 15 USB hard drives, a flash drive with Linux, enough USB DVD-ROM drives for all 100 something of my DVD-ROM/CD-ROM games, 4 Xbox controllers for local multiplayer in 3D games, 4 NSO SNES controllers for local multiplayer in 2D games, a mouse, a keyboard, at least 5 ports to charge my consoles, MP3 players, and tablets, and finally two more ports for my USB camera and mic. Edit: XD
i enjoyed jakes bit! he's actually a very competent explainer xD was just nice to see him in a more active role rather than a "OH LINUS WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS" role
ASRock did a lot of weird boards with CPU upgrade cards (from Socket 754 to 939) and even boards with two different CPU sockets you could pick between (Socket 478 for earlier P4s and LGA775 for later ones... and a f*ckton of jumpers to select which one you want to use)
OMG, I'm in love with the one which comes with 20 USBs. It's so hard to find a motherboard with at least 10 USBs nowadays and you have to pay for it a lot more for all the other features you might not even need at all. I personally need 10 USB ports at very least: mouse, keyboard, webcam, usb mic, music player doc station, xbox remote controller usb dongle, music midi keyboard, monitor, ups, printer - and that's not all. And most motherboards nowadays comes with like 6 USB ports at very best.
The oddest mobo I personally owned (by accident) was a MicroBTX Pentium 4 motherboard...yes BTX.. I didn't notice the different letter when I bought it until I tried to put the thing into my computer. Thought I had bought a motherboard from the mirror universe for second before I took another look at the box. :P Everything on the mobo is backwards. Assuming a tower case PC layout the expansion cards would end up on top instead of below the CPU area and obviously this means you couldn't put it in a normal ATX case. :P Kinda a shame I decided not to try and build it out. The one benefit to the BTX layout is the VGA/DVI/HDMI connectors on graphics cards added to this setup wouldn't be upside down in a tower case layout. :P The pricing for getting a BTX cooler and case made me choose not to finish that mistake. Had I at least been able to use the cooler I already got I would have considered trying to get a case to put it in. :P
Honestly, for this type of video I like them even more when someone else found all the stuff and we get to see the first time Linus has ever seen any of it
I have some weird boards too. One is sized about 12*12cm and has a CF (CompactFlash) slot, one slot for DDR2 SODIMM and space for a PCI wifi card. It also has an LVDS and inverter connector, COM-port, GPIO, 4 miniature USB2 headers and a weird 6pin power connector which I luckily had an adaptor to ATX for. Back IO is PS2, VGA, 2 USB2.0, Lan and audio ports. The other board has a case and looks more normal but is really long and has a lot of rj45 serial ports on it. And front IO is blocked by the case in front of it. Internal it also uses a CF card for storage but supports two sata drives. I guess it was used in a industrial space.
The first motherboard is very similar to the ones on our machines at work. We use them for our machining cells. Computer can communicate and monitor several proximity sensors for our robots and conveyors that feed our CNC Lathes.
9:00 Linus done did me dirty. I'm like "I know what's wrong, that board is all backwards like. It almost looks like a mirror image of a standard board." Linus: "It's the socket." "Wait, what?" rewinds video. Looks at text on chips and such. "It IS a mirror image!"
It actually reminds me of a daughter board for a much larger system. We use to use them in industrial machines, even though it has a video out put and everything else that might run on a motherboard, the power may be coming to the board from the slot. It seems it is just a elaborate daughter board.
11:58 I think you can do a Bios mod to enable NVMe on gen2/3 intel chipsets. You have to use UEFITool to add the missing module code to the Bios. Its pretty risk if you don't have a EEPROM flasher to recover if something goes wrong.
@@kevinjansen3785 No can do. youtube immediately deletes my comment even if I break the link in parts or try to suggest a term to google search the link.
speaking of re-hashing things, we've already seen the motherboard with the CPU socket on the back! still quite unique though, including how it can have chips from 6th gen all the way to 9th!
I was hunting around for cheap x86 systems a few months ago, and found motherboards with DEEPLY embedded AMD CPUs in the PCB to the point that you didn't even see the silicon. They were the same size as the smaller-than-ITX board from this video. Looking at front and back pictures, there was no visible CPU or chipset, or heatsinks for them to hide under. There were empty spaces free of any SMDs except for the capacitors/transistors and what-have-you that you would typically find under a CPU package or on the backside of the socket. But you could also see traces emanating from those spots where you would expect the CPU and chipsets. No solder pads or anything to indicate they were boards that needed a CPU, and they were listed with exact CPU models, not a range of supported chips. It was baffling and I'm still not sure if what I saw was what I just described, but they are by far the strangest motherboards I have ever seen
ASRock had really weird ones back in the day, such as - 4CoreDual-SATA2 (LGA775 motherboard with both PCI-E and AGP, and DDR and DDR2 memory) - P4 Combo (Pentium 4 motherboard with both Socket 478 and LGA775) - K8 Combo-Z (Athlon64 motherboard with both Socket 754 and Socket 939)
That many fast USB ports would be great for creating many many bootable USBs in bulk. My company has field technicians that stage PCs in the field and about 200 USBs are needed for all of our technicians.
I think "that shouldn't exist" is a bit of an overstep into the clickbait territory. Kinda contradicts the content, where you go and describe the exact reasons for these boards to exist and be used in various specific ways. That being said, you guys are the masters of algorithm, so if that's what needed - so be it.
@@zignitz I wouldn't say that it's 100% dishonest, we are still being shown 5 weird motherboards, it's just I totally expected "look how hilariously bad and nonsensical these products are" kind of content and instead got "look at those niche products you probably wouldn't want in your average PC build".
@@ВладимирОлейников-г7г "5 weird motherboards that shouldn't exist" was the title "Why these 5 design specific motherboards exist" was the content. I suppose weird could be used between them but I consider that pretty inaccurate too.
Honestly some combination of having a CPU socket on the back and an angled PCI-E socket would make for a great ITX board. Could push for the split CPU/GPU without needing a riser.
I agree with you, I need a ton of USB expansion myself. I want to upgrade to a 10 port Board like the ASUS ROG Dark Hero (AM4). After that, I want to build my PC into my desk and make a dual System case. One will be storage, one does everything else. I honestly considered threadripper at some point, but thats not certainly helpful on the main system atleast. Happy creating!
@@Mom19 So the Asus board you referred retails for like 500-600 bucks. And you said the main selling point for you was the 10 ports. However, in their specs, it says "USB - Front USB Total 7 ports". Not 10. For a top of the line product, personally I think that's not good enough info. However, in their gallery, you can see the ports. It has 6xSS10 (that means any number of things, but at least USB3.1), 1xUSB Type C and 4xSS (meaning USB 2.0). And let's disregard the port for Bios, since that's only used for bios flash's. As it's normal, because these high end boards usually are for OC'ing purposes, and it's tinkered like that. That's why you see the bios reset button and the clear cmos button... and the premium price tag. Still, it does add up to the 10. So let me suggest you something different, and the one I bought to pair with a 3700X. The Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite. It comes at a third of that price. It' has decent VRM's, and I know people that used it to drive their 3900X (although I wouldnt suggest it). As for ports, you have 4x2.0, 4x3.0 and 2x3.1. As for building two systems on a table... well, good luck with that. It's a big project by itself. And one thing you should worry is air flow to circulate that heat of of the space. If you're doing a project like Linus is, similar to the Lian Li DK-05F. if you're doing that, I'd recommend getting a Fan HUB (or two) just to help cycle the air out of the space. They're not expensive, but I recommend not cheaping out on them. I have a Phanteks to help me drive the 11 fans on my case. They're not expensive as Corsairs (that retails around 60\70 bucks), but it gets the job done. If memory serves me right (not opening the box to make sure what it was), the model I used is the Universal PWM Fan Hub (you can find it by its EAN, that is 8865230014300... just slap it on google and it will spit out the product). If you're thinking on an open system project, like an open air case, let me give you another suggestion. Within the lines of the Core P5 case (also around the 200-250 buck range). You get two of them (for your purpose), and wall mount them. You can even use TV's Wall mounts to give you more options for cleaning and maintenance (like this madlad did - ruclips.net/video/2iuwyO81bH0/видео.html ). Because yes, that's the bane of computers. Dust management. Either way, good luck with your project, and have fun!
I just use a PCIe USB expansion card. No hubs to worry about (as I've had problems with hubs and audio interfaces playing nice) and you get more full speed ports
@@alphapt9370 thank you for your thorough answer. Well, my plan was a 5950x or 5900x once their XT variants come out. Im not gonna run out and do things now anyway, but performance of todays CPUs is very good for my usage. My plans and goals are high and I know that. Hardline tubing, Definitely will go with Noctuas for the parts where I don't see fans really. Either their industrial ones or their chromax lineup with high pressure for radiators. Probably industrial tho. They be louder, but are still under what other fans would offer. Fan hubs will be a thing probably, yes. The thing is, Gigabytes Software isnt so good in my opinion and I don't have ICUE support with them. With Asus I do have that. This is really picky, I know, but this will be a project I will do when I finished my "graduation" in my new job. And since this thing will get basically sealed off, it actually has to be perfect from the moment I finish it. I have a Gigabyte motherboard in my VR rig and it's really great for its price (B550 Vision D). I know this board is pricey, but I didn't really find something that I know, has ICUE integration other than Asus and doesn't have clunky software. I really hate that certain things actually depend on such stupid stuff. This board btw, goes for 400-415 here. The gigabyte one is 100 below that, but I compromise on other things. I would highly appreciate if you keep up your suggestions to me, very helpful. My biggest problems are Software, ICUE support due my keyboard and mouse and 600ohm support. Will use an external Audio dac later on, but for the start this has to be supported. The x570 Master, would have that too I think. Also I don't really need a ton of high speed Ports, just multiple ones and a few high speed ports, this would make it easier for the chipset to support multiple ports I think? Im tired right now and a bit confused but I would love to hear back from you!
@@alphapt9370 EDIT: I also look for dual Ethernet ports. One must be gigabit, one must be 2.5 gig since my storage would be in RAID (the secondary system I mentioned). I've tested it already with my current equipment without RAID, over one gigabit and also streaming it back (over Steam in home streaming with almost no compression maxing out at 104mbit upstream). It did work fine, but going a bit higher doesn't hurt here since I definitely would cap out on 1 gig due the increased read speed of the RAID. Also theyre very fast drives too (for SATA atleast). I mean on what average drive so I get 200mbs per second? The best consumer grade drive I found would throw 180mbs at best as far as the collected data is to be believed. And it probably doesn't just host games aswell.
I would have had one in my old job where among other things we refurbished phones. We'd use ThinkPads and USB hubs, but there is a limit to how many USB ports a laptop will support. A few of these would have been great.
Dude... YOU LOVE COMPUTERS ! You are passionate about it. I work as an IT and play around computers since a lot of time and *i have never been so enthusiastic about computers as you* You have my many many thumbs UPs
I've seen that last mobo in action. It goes in a waterproof industrial computer with integrated touchscreen. We used them at work for displaying drilling information on oil drill rig floors. The CPU and GPU are heat sunk to the chassis. The SATA ports are broken out to a pair of 2.5 inch bays. Everything is sealed with double Orings with an IP67 rating to withstand a drirect blast from an industrial pressure washer. They worked well for our purpose with a single connector for power and networking to run back to the site office trailer.
Holy shit that’s awesome
That's awesome! I had guessed maybe some sort of medical device due to recognizing "EPIC" as the name of a medical devices company, but came to the comments looking for more. That's really cool!
Very interesting, pretty neat stuff
Oh I thought it is a motherboard for thin client devices as I have a thin client device repuposed as an OpenWRT based router which use this kind of motherboard (but without any kind of graphic hardware), and it's passive ventilation relies on customized fins.
Fantastic!!!
That first motherboard was definitely made for Taran. Finally he can have 20 macro keyboards
I have 12 ports not enough xd
usb hub
Finally, a board that makes external USB hubs unnecessary.
And why would taran need that many???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 because he is the macro king and he wants to become the macro emperor. So he needs more macros to expand his kingdom into an empire
"Speaking of existing Ridge wallet does do that"
Unbelievably smooth transition 10/10
hi
I thought it was pretty shit honestly
A bit late, but this was fucking great. lol
@@201hastings Wow really!? Its not like.. it was a joke...
Ridge Wallet: Exists
Linus: They do that
Well
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Can confirm.
Source: I have one
@@PhillipReece I can also confirm
source: I made it up
“Speaking of existing, Ridge Wallet does that”
Well, I wasn’t gonna buy it, but shit I’m sold
After the invention of KickStarter I've now realised that actually existing is a feature.
@@ArthurBugorski the most important feature even
Ridge Wallet: exists
Empty Wallet: Allow me to introduce myself!
That first motherboard would be extremely helpful with remote astronomy observatories. I’m a deep sky imager and basically every single imager out there is using multiple large array USB hubs. Astronomy cameras are pushing big data files, especially if you’re doing lunar / solar / planetary imaging. When you add in all the other tools needed, it’s quite common to need at least 10 USB ports - even more if you’re running dual camera setups, which is really common for remote observatories.
Cool. Thanks for the educational info.
At that point a hard drive system would make better sense
I am working in a printing business running more than 7 printers... I wish i can find that mb
@@sensei3265 Aren't professional printers using UTP cable connection instead of USB?
Yooooooo another deep sky astrophotographer! Not the type I was expecting to see here lol
It is definitely worth revising the extreme temperature environments. In fact, a whole series with various industrial conditions affecting regular PCs is very interesting.
+1
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his ad transition is something else i swear
yeah
wait how is this man verified with no videos?
Existing, which our sponsor also does well
@@Fattingly that's also my question... Lol
Imagine if they made a video with no sponser and it just cut to the intro🤯
FYI: crazy usb requirements: exotic flight simulator setups with a lot of external hardware. My desktop setup for an A10 flight simulator for DCS uses (throttle, joystick, rudder pedals, 4 external usb joystick cards, 4 arduinos, 2 mfd devices, a UFC device, a trackir device, a jetseat, a mini usb keyboard, powering a monitor over usb) that's 19 right there! plus normal keyboard, mouse, headset, etc. and my sim setup is missing a TON of stuff and always looking to add more. i have 3 powered external hubs in my various parts of the sim! but yes, it is VERY niche :)
Whoa! That's cool. I'm still perfecting the code on my one Arduino with a rotary encoder used for pitch trim for MSFS2020.
What kind of hubs do you use?
how do you make a arduino keyboard with a rotary encoder?
Flight sim was my first idea too
flight simulators usually need a PC with a lot of grunt on the component side, by using that mobo with all those usb ports you are restricting yourself to... what will fit on that mobo. Plus all the usb devices will be vampiring power from your pc.
The setup you are using, which probably has a far higher quality mobo than the one with all those internal usb ports, and using powered usb hubs instead, is a far better solution.
I would presume that mobo is for something with very little bandwidth and computational requirements - cctv for instance.
This is the greatest slogan for a company - "We do exist!" humble but honest.
I don't think Linus could have delivered that segue with anything close to the same certainty if it was Debrand. They don't really exist, just a figment of Linus' nightmares
as a flight simmer, I can confirm that there is no such thing as "too many USB ports"
Or enough, for that matter.
Im using like 10 right now requiring 2 usb hubs. One is usb-c thankfully for the more power /data intensive parts. And i still have so many things i can add.
Nor too much performance.
DCS makes GPU go brrrrrr
Yeah. I also have vr. Which needs USB 3.0 for the trackers and vr.
As an avid VM user with no KVM equipment, I also agree. lol
Absolutely yes do more weird motherboards they're so interesting and are a great lens into the world of non-consumer computing applications
Title: "5 weird motherboards that shouldn't exist"
Linus: "We're going to tell you why these motherboards should even exist in the first place."
zomg teh rei :þ
I mean, yeah...
Oh....."Proprietary Motherboards for NOT the PC-Gaming World".........YAWWWWWWN!!
BTW......SugarBear over there needs a serious Bronzablonda GEICO Bro-Stache or sumpin'. 😆😂🤣
I know right?
So... they do exactly what the title implies they're gonna do...? Stop the presses!
A great man once told me "No motherboard is weird"
Very wise words
Thanks for quoting my words, it’s been a while 🥸
My motherboard has RGB Reambow LED, does that mean I'm gay?
@@o0o_ghost no, it means you're a gaymer
“Yes honey, your motherboard isn’t weird, it’s just…small.”
Recently took apart an old DVR (Digital Video Recorder) - and was interested to find that it was a fairly standard looking Pentium-II motherboard, but had a riser with 24 analog BNC inputs above the standard rear panel I/O connectors.
"Speaking of existing, Ridge Wallet does do that"
~LTT pro tier ad spots, 2021
😂😂 was looking for a comment like this after hearing that
the best transition i've ever heard
blinked and had to mentally reread that one
"PC In A Freezer" has always been my "Theoretical Best Performance" idea, but I haven't figured out all of the solutions yet, and I'd love to see how you guys get around certain problems (condensation, seals, etc). Please please please make one
Phase change cooling works. Insulate, seal up and you're good to go, with a ridiculously expensive and power hungry setup, but subzero is quite possible.
Sticking your PC in a freezer, depending on the freezer's quality and construction, might not result in any condensation whatsoever. It will probably kill the freezer, though.
I've run a PC outside(under shelter) in subzero temps, zero issues because no parts are ever below ambient...never ran it at below -30 C, mind you.
I had a thought like that about 30 years ago. Not long after a company called Kryotech unveiled tech similar to my idea. The product they ultimately started selling was a computer case that had a compressor in the bottom of the case. Something about vapor phase cooling or some such thing. Eventually there were ads surfacing for a highly overclocked AMD systems using one of these cases. Short lived product, but variants of the tech wended its way into climate controlled server racks.
Or use some ducting from the front of a window mount ac, set to 60 with the fan on high lol
Not a freezer but should keep it pretty chilly lol
Freezers are made to slowly cool things and then keep them cool at low energy costs. If you put something that actively keeps putting out heat, it won't be able to keep up and because it's so well insulated it'll turn into a hot box. The closest to your idea what they've already done and what's actually feasible is probably this
ruclips.net/video/r7pqc26TWAg/видео.html
Edit: oh, I didn't think of industrial freezers and now I see that part in the video. It'd be bomb if they revisited that yea
Actually, freezers don’t remove that much heat. A lot of it is just effective isolation.
That first motherboard has single pin 'Aero Connectors' - popular in the aviation and analogue broadcast industries though I've never seen them with one pin! That 20 USB board would be superb for running Open Media Vault with lots of USB drives - if you really hate yourself as much as RAID and decent throughput LOL
RUclips has ruined me because I wondered what Shadow Legends had to do with anything for the briefest of moments.
Edit: There are two types of people in the world...
PC in an industrial freezer sounds cool. I'm working on an automation project for the food industry and have been looking into all the issues that might cause (condensation etc.). Would love to see your insights.
I have also been working on an automation project for the food industry. I have been playing Automachef.
Hey man, do you mind if I ask what kind of automation? I’m really interested in this field in regards to the food industry
I would think your best option would be a AOC computer where all the exposed contacts and connections are encased in like a non conductive resin that would keep the moisture from making direct contact with the computer parts. Besides that you would have to start making a special housing and ensuring that it's well sealed against temperature and humidity changes.
i live in the northern US and cant wait for winter so i can stick my PC outside and break some of my old 3Dmark records lol.
Why do you want to employ even less people in the food industry by employing more computers?
I just wish there was a motherboard that randomly alternates the orientation and spec of USB-A ports. That’s my kink.
ah yes imagine inverting the powerlines or switching data and power, have fun frying almost anything you plug in
I think that would increase your chance of plugging in the usb-cable at the first try.
@@ThinkingPear410 'Almost'
@@Jehty_ sorry, the laws of the universe dictates that every single time you try plugging one USB, it will always go wrong the first time :-(
That Portwell board would be amazing for building a Hauptwerk virtual organ setup. Those always need endless IO, the bigger the pipe organ you want to control, the more control surfaces you need to connect.
Low bandwidth, as it’s MIDI only, but you need LOTS of MIDI over LOTS of USB.
My small 3 manual setup requires 2 display ports and 8 USB ports. One for PC keyboard, one for the sound interface, one for the pedalboard, 3 for manuals (MIDI keyboards) and two for stop jambs (Novation Launchpad Minis in my case)
If you wanted to build a 5 manual organ controller with status displays and motorised control surfaces, needing somewhere between 10 to 15 USB ports is not out of the question.
Assuming that board can handle at least 128GB of RAM, or maybe up to 256GB, you could use it to build the most epic Hauptwerk setup ever.
They're kinda like Dell motherboards, except they actually have a purpose.
Dell motherboards have a purpose. To make other motherboards look good in comparison.
I work at dell and thats not funny
@@haylanhead5820 dell-ete that comment
@@haylanhead5820 if you work at dell i really want to know why they always use their own standards(or earlier the BTX standard that never went anywhere)
It makes it pretty though keeping things running for a long time(which is probably why dell does it)
Ouch, unfair comment!
That motherboard with the CPU on the back is perfect for the passive cooling case Linus used a while back. Now. He can see and plug everything.
Wasn't it the one they used?
@@blunderingfool not sure what the exact board was but it was a standard layout board with a PCIE extension to rout the gpu to the back of the board
@@blunderingfool Not for that case. They did use the board though for a cooling experiment however.
They used a similar board a while back to watercool an air cooler: ruclips.net/video/u6zsHqdNRQ8/видео.html
Outside of industrial manufacturing the most common uses I could see where you would need that many USB ports is modern arcade games like some of the fancy racing simulators you find at Dave & Buster’s, after all those things run windows and have a bunch of features that probably all plug-in with USB, any self contained kiosk that has a bunch of peripherals that plug-in via USB like for example an ATM, a self-service ordering kiosk at a fast food place where you have things like a touchscreen, a card reader, receipt printer cash dispenser etc. and then home flight simulator or American truck simulator set ups where you have a bunch of plug-in peripherals or macro set ups, think racing wheel with pedals, shifter, VR headset, custom button panels etc.
For research, we wanted to have an Android device farm with lots of devices to do testing on. Therefore, we needed lots of USB.
I've gotta say, that motherboard with the rear-mounted CPU looks so clean. The flat black board without any of the visible traces or tiny components on the front is really visually appealing. I'd totally be interested in one if it was possible to have the cpu be on the normal side, but leave all those small components on the back.
I think it possibly to mount in no fan case with large passive heatsink plate as backside of the case
Usually if you mount all of small components on rear you have fire hazard, because you will need to have longer stands to avoid touching the case and motherboard. Also this will misalign rear io hole. I fried some thing just by dropping cpu cooler retention bracket on top of it and it shorted with component nearby with fire but for a few seconds only.
I was thinking the same thing. It looks like a minimalist motherboard of sorts
I saw that USB board and as a musician, VR Enthusiast, and Gamer™, I was like "oooo... where can I get one?"
Facts
But, actually where can i get one?
I feel like everybody saying this does not realize that USB hubs exist.
@@TravisFabel or maybe you aren't familiar with the concept of high bandwidth USB devices and the necessity of independent controllers. 🙂
Especially considering how stingy motherboard seem to be now and days.
"Hey, I need like 8 usb ports plus maybe a couple extra for less than $200"
Motherboard manufactures "best I can do is 5"
gamers who use multiple mice:
For my third hand
mouses for computer mouses to distinguish it.
What the skibidi
@@GameBoyPlayz dumbest comment ever
WAIT PEOPLE DO THAT?
The “ITX” board (the last one) is for a media player! Thus the two sata power jacks. Depending on the model either the HDMI or the VGA port would be concealed by the enclosure.
Thank you! I was thinking it looked kinda like a Pico ITX but the dimensions are too big :)
@Micheal Connor typically I have seen them use standard passive heatsinks as well as enclosure sunk. Depends on the model.
@@sendittozach as they are mounted on the back probably cooled via the case. AI have something similar but smaller for a router.
No, it actually is an early version of PC Engines APU, this are meant to be used as a custom setup for running pfSense Gateway.
@@sholzapfeld have two looking at me I pulled from media players. Don’t be an insufferable. “They also are used as a custom setup for running pfsense.”
Linus: "This one is so tiny"
Really hard to tell when Linus is holding it.
💀
There are smaller ones, than that itx me, like 3.5" SBCs, usually those are neatly packed in an all aluminum casing with somtimes vesa compliant mounting. Those can be mounted inside of slot machines, gaming tables, atms and many more enclosed low power environments. They mainly come with intel n200/400/500 and rarely with z500 atoms, one bank of sodimm ddr2 or ddr3, cf socket and sata, coupled with intel gma 900 gpus. Win XP embedded is OS of choice for those 4 to 8 watt machines. Almost all of those 3.5" and smaller feature lvds headers for direct communication with displays, settings of display timing and channel width can be directly adjusted in bios, furthermore those host a slew of old style rs 232, 422, 485 and other more rare connections and protocol. If your in field and need a low power super versatile stand alone solution to get you some ground piercing radar and other equipment going, these are the devices you would want. If you look for something for win xp gaming... look somewhere else, these SBCs never have a decent gpu on them or at least an express card slot or mini pcie socket. Expect performance same as netbooks from around 2008 to 2010. Companies I know for those SBCs are iei and ibase, there are some others though.
Not only would I like to see more of these oddball mother boards, but I think it would be cool to see one actually built and used for whatever niche function it was made for.
As a content creator and streamer I feel like I need all those USB Ports
Wwwwwwwwhat are ya plugging in besides webcam, keyboard and mouse??? And headphone/set and microphone (or alternatively those 2 connected to an amplifier)???
I mean usb hubs are pretty cheap
@@DeadpoolPlayz but in terms of quality, I dunno...
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Multiple capture cards and streamdecks more than likely.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Well you named 5 right there which is already a lot of USB Real Estate. I like having a wired and wireless keyboard at the ready, my android connected for charging and file transfer, a stream deck, capture card, when the 3DS was supported I also had my 3DS Capture Card, and I find myself randomly plugging in other things from time to time
As a guy that makes music and has allot of midi inputs the first board would be fantastic
Also for some USB camera security system (obviously outclassed by POE systems now)
Yeah +1 to that! All the interfaces, keyboards, drum machines, synths at once... they take a lot of inputs up!
Music instruments is Haram btw
it'd also be good for multiplayer games
@@Wahid_on_youtobe your a haram kid btw
1:31 I can and I want! If you produce music on PC and you use external gear such as external synthesizers, effects, midi keyboards, etc., then you will quickly run out of USB ports. I believe my current motherboard has 10 USB ports, and that is not enough for my current setup, so I'm looking for a PCI USB expansion card. And it's not even because my setup is particularly big. I have 3 synthesizers, a drum machine, a sampler, an effects unit, an audio interface, a midi controller. digital recorder with stereo mic, mouse, keybouard and I need more USB ports, many more usb ports.
yep same here. currently I need multiple USB splitters. though some audio interfaces have extra line and midi inputs
Best ad campaign ever “speaking of existing; ridge wallet… does” 😂😂
Linus: "speaking of existing, ridge wallet does do that"
Me: umm yeah, I sure hope it does
"Speaking of existing, Ridge Wallet DOES do that."
I would bloody well hope so since I'm looking at it
The first motherboard looks like it might be a specialty board for something like a security camera server. I wonder what power those type A ports deliver.
Did you watch? He went into what it was probably used for. I think the camera scenario was one of them.
Unlikely, the range of USB is simply to short (5 meters for USB 2, 3m for USB 3). Most security cameras use ordinary network cables and PoE for power.
Boards like this are used for industrial purposes and the "cameras" Linus mentioned are cameras that check parts, colors or labels in a production process.
I used a board like this once: I was working at a company that machined plastic parts and a customer - for some reason - wanted a 100% measurement and logging of each of the 5,000 parts they ordered. It took the machine about 4 minutes to produce the part, but the worker would have needed more than 10 minutes to meassure all the required values and write down the results. So we had to make an automated measuring and logging station - on a budget! We used a bunch of USB powered probes and pneumatics to move them, so the worker could place the part in the station, press a button and everything was done automatically within a few seconds. All probes were connected to a laptop with a logging software via a hub, but even though we used an "industrial grade" USB hub it was a bugfest! In theory, you can connect up to 127 devices to one port, in practice we constantly had probes that failed to activate or delivered wacky values, it was a nightmare... When the customer came back and ordered 8,000 more parts with the same requirements, we bought a board like the one in the video and it worked like a charm.
Isn't most security camera use ethernet for transmission? Some even use PoE for power.
It's the same for computer vision system.
I would really like them to build a custom SFF gaming machine with that custom "TV Motherboard" with the 1050ti. That would be cool.
If you still want to do it, now the same company made a version with a GTX 1650
So you can have a more powerful GPU
I could see the last board (11:15) being in a thin client device that would be used in something like a HP t310 for the food industry like fast food displays that show orders to the staff bagging food and making food
Love that when he said at the end there was another motherboard that they wanted to show and "It only has 2 RAM slots" I immedietely looked down at my pc in shame xD
"If it was a system of the body it would be kind of like your circulatory system and your nervous system"
So I would have to feed it blood thinners and migraine meds?
Yes.
Really wish you guys did another episode of this!
0:34
That was so awkward that I thought it was gonna be a sponsor segway
Same. would have been so much better
Speaking of existing, Ridge wallet does that! But your dad is nowhere to be found… 0:47
"How many USB ports are we gonna have boss?"
"Yes"
".....Sure thing boss!"
@Russell White Can relate
I am also on vr and need 4 ports bc of fbt. Then mouse keybord webcam iluminated mousepad monitor steering wheel and flightstick that makes 11. I also have quite a lot of external drives and like to stuff with arduinos. It dosn't work without usb hubs i can see myself tanking 20 usb ports as a selling point.
That motherboard is actually great for mining
i used all 6 of my PC usb ports lmao
[happy buildzoid noises]
He should do this with every pc component and then mash the fan favorites together and make an ultimate exotic pc lol
Weird motherboards are interesting. Extreme motherboards would be interesting, too. I'd take a video about that (I'll search to see if one exists, too).
It would be cool if you could make a built for every board you show.
The first board could also be used in audio workstations where lots of USB MIDI devices are connected to a VST host.
Why wouldn't you just use a standard MIDI interface? You can daisy chain them forever.
Just. Buy. A. Hub.
Because there are a lot of USB MIDI devices without actual MIDI In/Out/Thru ports.
A USB hub usually causes more problems than you were bargaining for, especially if the link to the hub drops.
I've worked for livestreaming events, we used many USB devices and when a hub had to be brought in... problems were to be expected.
Sure, you can use keyboard and mouse on a hub no problem. Even simple USB MIDI keyboards are fine, just don't connect a camera with other audio interfaces over a hub.
@@widg3tswidgets416 Yeah, but like, it would be nice if you didn't need a hub. 🤷♂️
@@widg3tswidgets416 usb hubs and audio gear do NOT play well with each other
Linus: your motherboard is your nervous system AND your circulatory system at the same time
Me who's motherboard is broken: guess I dead
I would love to see more "standard" motherboards with laptop CPUs on them. I prefer fanless equipment for my home servers.
There's also HM87 chipset ones that takes 4th Gen laptop CPUs.
Mind you that it's likely not worth it to buy laptop CPUs for that. It's only a good deal if you are scavenging the CPU from a broken laptop.
"Only if it's illegal to have fun!" Linus, you are the tech dad we all deserve!
1:35 I would NEED that for my flight setup, I have about 4 panels, a collective+collective hinge, stick+base, rudder+brakes, and so on
@8:00 LOL I love that his only reaction to being called out for dropping things is to wonder if the script was written for someone else. :D
Man, I love weird motherboards and bizarre tech in general.
Linus, when you showed that first motherboard I IMMEDIATELY got excited because that is actually perfect for a project I'm working on, in industrial automation of course haha
3:36 this should be the future considering larger and larger graphics cards sags or gets removed from shippping. additionally, cards mounted to steel or aluminum could allow easier mounting of CPU coolers to graphics cards
Do you put cow juice in your leaf water?
Or do you put bean juice in your leaf water?
Or maybe you like your leaf water juice free?
Cow juice tastes great ngl but with leaf juice, I'd have to go with bean juice
What? Coffee in tea?
The motherboard in the thumbnail has too few USB ports for me.
What? It’s too many ports for you? But I need 15 USB hard drives, a flash drive with Linux, enough USB DVD-ROM drives for all 100 something of my DVD-ROM/CD-ROM games, 4 Xbox controllers for local multiplayer in 3D games, 4 NSO SNES controllers for local multiplayer in 2D games, a mouse, a keyboard, at least 5 ports to charge my consoles, MP3 players, and tablets, and finally two more ports for my USB camera and mic.
Edit: XD
cases that fit with these boards are usually also interesting
i enjoyed jakes bit! he's actually a very competent explainer xD was just nice to see him in a more active role rather than a "OH LINUS WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS" role
The USB one is for stock trading and multi-displays driven via USB 3.
10:15 I thought that socket looked familiar, then I realized my laptop has one.
Remember a old mobo that accepted different sockets into it as long as you'd swap the mobo's own socket with it.
ASRock did a lot of weird boards with CPU upgrade cards (from Socket 754 to 939) and even boards with two different CPU sockets you could pick between (Socket 478 for earlier P4s and LGA775 for later ones... and a f*ckton of jumpers to select which one you want to use)
The first motherboard was actually a great building mobo for me, but unfortunately I needed some USB hubs 💀
OMG, I'm in love with the one which comes with 20 USBs. It's so hard to find a motherboard with at least 10 USBs nowadays and you have to pay for it a lot more for all the other features you might not even need at all. I personally need 10 USB ports at very least: mouse, keyboard, webcam, usb mic, music player doc station, xbox remote controller usb dongle, music midi keyboard, monitor, ups, printer - and that's not all. And most motherboards nowadays comes with like 6 USB ports at very best.
Buy a hub
Motherboard: has 20 usb ports
Buildzoid: Take my money
The oddest mobo I personally owned (by accident) was a MicroBTX Pentium 4 motherboard...yes BTX.. I didn't notice the different letter when I bought it until I tried to put the thing into my computer. Thought I had bought a motherboard from the mirror universe for second before I took another look at the box. :P
Everything on the mobo is backwards. Assuming a tower case PC layout the expansion cards would end up on top instead of below the CPU area and obviously this means you couldn't put it in a normal ATX case. :P
Kinda a shame I decided not to try and build it out. The one benefit to the BTX layout is the VGA/DVI/HDMI connectors on graphics cards added to this setup wouldn't be upside down in a tower case layout. :P
The pricing for getting a BTX cooler and case made me choose not to finish that mistake. Had I at least been able to use the cooler I already got I would have considered trying to get a case to put it in. :P
That might be the best sponsor segue in years! Can’t remember the last time one made me crack up lol
Honestly, for this type of video I like them even more when someone else found all the stuff and we get to see the first time Linus has ever seen any of it
I have some weird boards too. One is sized about 12*12cm and has a CF (CompactFlash) slot, one slot for DDR2 SODIMM and space for a PCI wifi card. It also has an LVDS and inverter connector, COM-port, GPIO, 4 miniature USB2 headers and a weird 6pin power connector which I luckily had an adaptor to ATX for. Back IO is PS2, VGA, 2 USB2.0, Lan and audio ports.
The other board has a case and looks more normal but is really long and has a lot of rj45 serial ports on it. And front IO is blocked by the case in front of it. Internal it also uses a CF card for storage but supports two sata drives. I guess it was used in a industrial space.
One of the reasons I like LTT is the fact that they upload a lot❤️🔥
They like you for watching each thing that comes out
@Dam Sen Yeah but, they’re also at goof quality
@MMI▶️ report
@@twopeoplemalca goof quality yes, can confirm.
@ I meant good but yes ..
Motherboard: *has 20 USB ports*
Linus: I can't even think of a legit use for this
Face Ball 3D Multiplayer: Well yes, but actually no
The first motherboard is very similar to the ones on our machines at work. We use them for our machining cells. Computer can communicate and monitor several proximity sensors for our robots and conveyors that feed our CNC Lathes.
For a second there I wasn’t sure that ridge wallet really did exist, then Linus pulled me out of the darkness with an epic sponsor segue
Would LOVE to see you guys revisit a PC in an industrial freezer
9:00 Linus done did me dirty. I'm like "I know what's wrong, that board is all backwards like. It almost looks like a mirror image of a standard board."
Linus: "It's the socket."
"Wait, what?" rewinds video. Looks at text on chips and such. "It IS a mirror image!"
That many USB ports would be amazing to have as a simulation user (racing, flight, etc.)
A "sim dream", one might say
@@Sithhy ;)
"Your computer is nothing without the motherboard"
Ah the motherboard with CPU IS THE COMPUTER.
I can confirm..ridge wallet does infact exist
It actually reminds me of a daughter board for a much larger system. We use to use them in industrial machines, even though it has a video out put and everything else that might run on a motherboard, the power may be coming to the board from the slot. It seems it is just a elaborate daughter board.
11:58 I think you can do a Bios mod to enable NVMe on gen2/3 intel chipsets.
You have to use UEFITool to add the missing module code to the Bios. Its pretty risk if you don't have a EEPROM flasher to recover if something goes wrong.
Source?
@@kevinjansen3785 RUclips will probably delete my comment if I put the link here but I will try.
@@kevinjansen3785 No can do. youtube immediately deletes my comment even if I break the link in parts or try to suggest a term to google search the link.
@@kevinjansen3785 "get full NVMe support win-raid"
@@kevinjansen3785 Google the term on my previews comment.
Should be the first result.
speaking of re-hashing things, we've already seen the motherboard with the CPU socket on the back! still quite unique though, including how it can have chips from 6th gen all the way to 9th!
I was hunting around for cheap x86 systems a few months ago, and found motherboards with DEEPLY embedded AMD CPUs in the PCB to the point that you didn't even see the silicon. They were the same size as the smaller-than-ITX board from this video. Looking at front and back pictures, there was no visible CPU or chipset, or heatsinks for them to hide under. There were empty spaces free of any SMDs except for the capacitors/transistors and what-have-you that you would typically find under a CPU package or on the backside of the socket. But you could also see traces emanating from those spots where you would expect the CPU and chipsets. No solder pads or anything to indicate they were boards that needed a CPU, and they were listed with exact CPU models, not a range of supported chips. It was baffling and I'm still not sure if what I saw was what I just described, but they are by far the strangest motherboards I have ever seen
any links ?
We need Doug DeMuro to give us the quirks and features of these boards and then give them a Doug score
Doug DeMuro and LTT: Impossible and possibly bad crossover i wish was real
2:00 I would use that for Audio Production... mic EVERYTHING!
ASRock had really weird ones back in the day, such as
- 4CoreDual-SATA2 (LGA775 motherboard with both PCI-E and AGP, and DDR and DDR2 memory)
- P4 Combo (Pentium 4 motherboard with both Socket 478 and LGA775)
- K8 Combo-Z (Athlon64 motherboard with both Socket 754 and Socket 939)
lol I had the 478/775 combo mobo...
That many fast USB ports would be great for creating many many bootable USBs in bulk.
My company has field technicians that stage PCs in the field and about 200 USBs are needed for all of our technicians.
In the evolution of external hardware and USB-Connectors, there was a time, where it was needfull to have more than 6 USB Connectors.
I think "that shouldn't exist" is a bit of an overstep into the clickbait territory. Kinda contradicts the content, where you go and describe the exact reasons for these boards to exist and be used in various specific ways. That being said, you guys are the masters of algorithm, so if that's what needed - so be it.
The content of the video is the exact opposite it isn't just misleading clickbait it is actually 100% dishonest.
@@zignitz I wouldn't say that it's 100% dishonest, we are still being shown 5 weird motherboards, it's just I totally expected "look how hilariously bad and nonsensical these products are" kind of content and instead got "look at those niche products you probably wouldn't want in your average PC build".
@@ВладимирОлейников-г7г "5 weird motherboards that shouldn't exist" was the title "Why these 5 design specific motherboards exist" was the content. I suppose weird could be used between them but I consider that pretty inaccurate too.
Honestly some combination of having a CPU socket on the back and an angled PCI-E socket would make for a great ITX board. Could push for the split CPU/GPU without needing a riser.
My therapist: Ridge Wallet isn't real, it can't hurt you
Linus: Speaking of existing, *Ridge Wallet does do that*
My anxiety: 📈📈📈
Not gonna lie, as a streamer with so much stuff plugged into my pc that I need a usb hub, that first mobo would be a godsend.
I agree with you, I need a ton of USB expansion myself. I want to upgrade to a 10 port Board like the ASUS ROG Dark Hero (AM4). After that, I want to build my PC into my desk and make a dual System case. One will be storage, one does everything else. I honestly considered threadripper at some point, but thats not certainly helpful on the main system atleast. Happy creating!
@@Mom19 So the Asus board you referred retails for like 500-600 bucks. And you said the main selling point for you was the 10 ports. However, in their specs, it says "USB - Front USB Total 7 ports". Not 10. For a top of the line product, personally I think that's not good enough info. However, in their gallery, you can see the ports. It has 6xSS10 (that means any number of things, but at least USB3.1), 1xUSB Type C and 4xSS (meaning USB 2.0). And let's disregard the port for Bios, since that's only used for bios flash's. As it's normal, because these high end boards usually are for OC'ing purposes, and it's tinkered like that. That's why you see the bios reset button and the clear cmos button... and the premium price tag. Still, it does add up to the 10.
So let me suggest you something different, and the one I bought to pair with a 3700X. The Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite. It comes at a third of that price. It' has decent VRM's, and I know people that used it to drive their 3900X (although I wouldnt suggest it). As for ports, you have 4x2.0, 4x3.0 and 2x3.1.
As for building two systems on a table... well, good luck with that. It's a big project by itself. And one thing you should worry is air flow to circulate that heat of of the space. If you're doing a project like Linus is, similar to the Lian Li DK-05F. if you're doing that, I'd recommend getting a Fan HUB (or two) just to help cycle the air out of the space. They're not expensive, but I recommend not cheaping out on them. I have a Phanteks to help me drive the 11 fans on my case. They're not expensive as Corsairs (that retails around 60\70 bucks), but it gets the job done. If memory serves me right (not opening the box to make sure what it was), the model I used is the Universal PWM Fan Hub (you can find it by its EAN, that is 8865230014300... just slap it on google and it will spit out the product).
If you're thinking on an open system project, like an open air case, let me give you another suggestion. Within the lines of the Core P5 case (also around the 200-250 buck range). You get two of them (for your purpose), and wall mount them. You can even use TV's Wall mounts to give you more options for cleaning and maintenance (like this madlad did - ruclips.net/video/2iuwyO81bH0/видео.html ). Because yes, that's the bane of computers. Dust management.
Either way, good luck with your project, and have fun!
I just use a PCIe USB expansion card. No hubs to worry about (as I've had problems with hubs and audio interfaces playing nice) and you get more full speed ports
@@alphapt9370 thank you for your thorough answer. Well, my plan was a 5950x or 5900x once their XT variants come out. Im not gonna run out and do things now anyway, but performance of todays CPUs is very good for my usage. My plans and goals are high and I know that. Hardline tubing, Definitely will go with Noctuas for the parts where I don't see fans really. Either their industrial ones or their chromax lineup with high pressure for radiators. Probably industrial tho. They be louder, but are still under what other fans would offer. Fan hubs will be a thing probably, yes. The thing is, Gigabytes Software isnt so good in my opinion and I don't have ICUE support with them. With Asus I do have that. This is really picky, I know, but this will be a project I will do when I finished my "graduation" in my new job. And since this thing will get basically sealed off, it actually has to be perfect from the moment I finish it. I have a Gigabyte motherboard in my VR rig and it's really great for its price (B550 Vision D). I know this board is pricey, but I didn't really find something that I know, has ICUE integration other than Asus and doesn't have clunky software. I really hate that certain things actually depend on such stupid stuff. This board btw, goes for 400-415 here. The gigabyte one is 100 below that, but I compromise on other things. I would highly appreciate if you keep up your suggestions to me, very helpful. My biggest problems are Software, ICUE support due my keyboard and mouse and 600ohm support. Will use an external Audio dac later on, but for the start this has to be supported. The x570 Master, would have that too I think. Also I don't really need a ton of high speed Ports, just multiple ones and a few high speed ports, this would make it easier for the chipset to support multiple ports I think? Im tired right now and a bit confused but I would love to hear back from you!
@@alphapt9370 EDIT: I also look for dual Ethernet ports. One must be gigabit, one must be 2.5 gig since my storage would be in RAID (the secondary system I mentioned). I've tested it already with my current equipment without RAID, over one gigabit and also streaming it back (over Steam in home streaming with almost no compression maxing out at 104mbit upstream). It did work fine, but going a bit higher doesn't hurt here since I definitely would cap out on 1 gig due the increased read speed of the RAID. Also theyre very fast drives too (for SATA atleast). I mean on what average drive so I get 200mbs per second? The best consumer grade drive I found would throw 180mbs at best as far as the collected data is to be believed. And it probably doesn't just host games aswell.
Looking at the first motherboard, I thought: Finally, a motherboard for me.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the weird power connections, I've got a use case for that first motherboard with bonkers amount of USB ports.
I would have had one in my old job where among other things we refurbished phones. We'd use ThinkPads and USB hubs, but there is a limit to how many USB ports a laptop will support. A few of these would have been great.
In fairness to Linus, he is sometimes in the perfect setup for someone to drop/nudge something to fall. So 10% of the time, it's not Linus' fault.
Dude... YOU LOVE COMPUTERS !
You are passionate about it. I work as an IT and play around computers since a lot of time and *i have never been so enthusiastic about computers as you*
You have my many many thumbs UPs
If only we haven't already seen all but two of them on there own videos.
what do you mean it's essential I removed both my circulatory system and my nervous system and I'm doing fine
Let's see for how long
who needs lungs when you have 16 USB slots
12:08 I think those are mSATA which I bought recently accidentally thinking it is 2242 m.2.