Can we talk for a moment about the perfect little pink bow Nethanos's new Scorge bae was wearing during her brief period of existence? You now it's the little things that make all the difference. Much respect to Nobbel.
@@MsAFunk It's the little details that make all the difference! I mean, how else are we supposed to know she's a pretty pretty undead princess (in his eyes?)
For me, Nathanos has always been that guy who always tries to tell you how much better he is than you, despite not actually being the case. Based on how he interacts with you in quests he gives I half expect him to try to underplay everything you do. "Oh, you helped to defeat Argus the manifestation of a Titan world-soul and vanquished the Burning Legion? Well I like, can do that with one hand tied behind my back." "Oh, you were chosen as the Champion of Azeroth, and your armor is literally infused with the life-blood of Azeroth itself? Well, I am the Champion of the Banshee Queen and have a sick-ass coat. Take that." To be fair though, it is a pretty cool coat.
Nah, we're champion now. Always champion. They note our accomplishments. For each of us, it wasn't some other group of adventurers, it was us. Our guild/raid group, that one time, was who it was. The other players' stories didn't happen, as far as we're concerned, and vise versa for them.
oh god....whenever I think of Sylvanas and Nathanos being intimate, the sound of mounting your Acherus Deathcharger comes to mind...I hate that sound XDD
You're getting a like on this video simply because you put the old model for Sylvanas as the first person Nathanos sees when she calls his name. It's becoming more and more of a forgotten memory. It's always good to remember your past, then you'll do better in the future. Thank you for this, Nobbel.
@justin perry Nathanos saved Lor'themar's life and helped Sylvanas fight off oraș when they attacked the elves. They beadically became a couple months later, they both matched perfectly, this is how he became ranger-lord. Its unfortunate I haven't played the horde side of quests to see the development of their relationship.
I've been watching lore videos to catch up and never could figure out where this dude came from. Now I'm recalling all of the quests into the EP to find this guy. Good trip down memory lane.
Nobbel, if you could add the part you did in a stream dissing on Nathanos at the end of the next video, just for comic relief, that would make my night.
@@Ikatsu-hs I know sadly, he makes me not wanting to complete the horde war campaign. Also he taunts me, while I almost 3 shot him... that is plot armor, nothing to breag about -.-
The voice actor of Nathanos Blightcaller was in a child's bike safety video in the 80s as a guy named Sam Sprocket who has teleportation powers and wears a pink shirt.
In the pre-Shadowlands event we killed him 1,000s of times. I saved screenshots of the masses of us in Icecrown killing ALL the world bosses. It was the largest gathering of simultaneous players in an event since WotLK. I was so happy I almost man-cried (smiled).
Man I need to get my new computer hooked up and set up with a new desk that I have to get for it so I can play this game again. Haven't played since 2010 but these videos have convinced me to play world of warcraft once again! Though it's unlikely my account and characters still exist with how many years it's been :(.
I would’ve loved you saying Nathanos loudly as a command instead of having a sound clip of Sylvanas mentioning his name within a sentence. the casual voice took away a bit from the moment loved the ghoul’s motions tho lol
I've lately noticed a lot of players calling Nathanos a "Simp" but i am confused, doesent he serve Sylvanas? Like hes her knight (Or champion) Isn't it only natural he'd heed her every order? What is you're opinion on this? Is he a "Simp" or just Loyal to a fault? (In any case he's one of the more interesting undead characters IMO)
It’s something taken from 4chan and inc*l message boards, to diss guys who respect women. Personally I think he’s an interesting and amusing character.
That's some quality content, as always, Nobbel. I've been thinking of making a video about Nathanos, too, well...-time to select another topic for the video! :D
@@x_ghost_x6612 Well, pretty sure some people will constantly say that I had the idea copied from Nobbel, especially that I'm a small content creator. But thanks for the motivation!
@@SamuraiMorshu but why has my rotten corps need to wear broken gear? If only the gear looks normal and he can stand upright. Like the orcs can now im fine. And WoW does every race reskinning now, so whats the problem to make a better looking undead?
"something raised within him" oh i bet it did Nathanos ;-) ;-) lol (honestly as weird and convoluted things have gotten, and as much as i am confused by her doings lately, i am totally her for that ship
THIS IS LITERALLY INSANE 2 DAYS AGO I LOOKED THROUGH YOUR CHANNEL FOR A NATHANOS BLIGHTCALLER LORE VIDEO!!!! YOU MUST'VE POSTED IT RIGHT AFTER. My mind is completely blown.
Undead can get an close relative and change bodies with them to become stronger? I didnt quite get it They change bodies? Or the life force from Stephon Marris is transfered to Nathanos alongside with his features?
Nathanos is literally everywhere for Horde in BfA, listening to this clown who has done jack shit compared to the PC make some smartass comment every single time we see him gets old fast.
They take out thier anger for Sylvanas on him, since she's not exactly very active since pre patch. It's well known how much she triggers the incels online lately. Any character heavily associated to her will be hated. It's stupid as fuck but I personally find it hilarious.
Nathanos is just a way of introducing a (Dead) Human Allied Race for Horde, a bit like Calia Menethil introduces Undead to the Alliance. It would have been much simpler if they had just given Horde Ogres and Alliance High Elves rather than all the messy Allied Races. I know they didn't do this because of the "Orges are too big" and "Blood Elves are High Elves" arguments but IMO that would have been better. Tauren(ish) sized Ogres would have been fine and if there weren't enough High Elves than how can there be enough Void Elves?!? Kul'Tiran Humans and Zandalari Troll's are alright the rest are meh reskins.
Nathanos seems like a pretty badass character, though I think he is also a bit flat with all of the "my queen" stuff. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I do wish he had a bit more of a character arc in the new expansion. For the expansion that was supposed to focus on characters more, bfa has really forgotten about some of the best.
I don't think he's 100% honest with the whole "my queen" stuff. I feel he is somewhat troubled by Sylvanas's actions but still has his sense of loyalty.
Cool really enjoyed it. My race that I care about the most is the forsaken and the dark lady. When I first saw them they blew my mind. I love fantasy and skeletons are really cool warriors. And the forsaken are really cool.
I agree i have been wanting you to do a Video on Nathanos for a wile i was curious how he got his new body. Thank you for clearing that up can't wait to see Part 2. I will agree with Doug be nice to see a dissing vid from you once in a wile.. I laughed at your Blood elf Heritage Armor video with Sunstrider ding to nothing and then them standing there.. Keep up the good work
I started playing wow during the 1st third of BC and I had no idea Nathanos has so much history, I just thought they made him up or something. Nobbel strikes again with KNOWLEDGE!
What year did they first talk about nathanos and Sylvanas as a couple? They remind me of wretch and ghost widow from city of heroes and I'm curious which came first.
You know what Nathanos needs now to fit with cool coat? Ashbringer. Considered that it is currently in hands of Liadrin, faithfull lackey of Lich Queen, that would be possible even lorewise.
It's not cannon but maybe with a little more traffic Blizzard would consider it. A little something I wrote: "Nathanos was one of the only human rangers in the Farstriders at the time and most of my kind were a little disgusted with him but they couldn't deny his skill. Nathanos Marris had certain traits that I immediately found appealing and one of the most prominent was his penchant for taking risk and coming out on top. He wasn't a young upstart wanting to be guided into greatness but also wasn't a centuries old member fearing that everything they worked for could be gone in one second in a battle. He knew that he came from nothing and he would die with nothing, he told me that he was expendable and with that, I threw him at the most dangerous members of the Horde. When he would win I was drawn to him and I knew he was very attracted to me. It was even more strange because I was the Ranger General of Silvermoon. Most men were afraid of me, they knew at the most I could kill them easily or at the least strip them of rank and power." Sylvanas laughed, "That didn't stop him from making his affection to me very obvious." "He brought me a flower and I threatened to kill him. Nathanos said, 'I could bring you gems if that's what you would like.' Right in front of everyone, in front of my people, but he only had to look at them for them to stand down. Even as a soldier in my command I could see he had power that had taken me decades to obtain and I told him I could strip him of rank and he just shrugged, smiled, and walked away. He had this playful attitude toward everything and he didn't just take risks with extremely dangerous enemies, he took a risk with an extremely dangerous… well, me." "He made his way into my private tent with gems this time, I drew my arrow, and he placed them on the nightstand by my bed. He told me that he lived to serve me, if I wanted him to die he would die, but it would be such a waste of his talents that could be used elsewhere, in matters of war and love. During that time there was almost a week of downtime. No fighting, no battles, just patrols and training. He was bored, I suppose, and so was I. I looked away and told him there were plenty of elves that admired him, that he could easily take to bed. Nathanos said, 'There's only you. My life is yours. My sword is yours. My bow is yours…' he paused, '…my heart is yours. Send me to kill your enemies anywhere… and I'll go.' I smiled, and I told him to take off his clothes." "Did you?" Perfectia hinted. Sylvanas nodded, "Many times, yes. I was somewhat pleasantly surprised when I passed my blood those weeks because I found out my sister Alleria was carrying from just one night with Turalyon, but I never really saw a future with Nathanos. I was clearly attracted to him, but in the end, I had no problem leaving him. I said farewell to a man who loves me, a man I thought I cared for, and I felt nothing." "Why?" Perfectia asked. Sylvanas looked away as she thought back, "I don't know, he was missing something. He was simple, he only did what he wanted to do. He pursued me because he found me physically attractive, but I think that's all we cared about, the feelings on both sides were relatively shallow. I think he was genuinely impressed with my character by the end of our time together, but when I left, he seemed mostly disappointed that he would never have a conquest with the same status or title. I knew he would never forget me, I knew that he would most likely brag about me, and I knew there would be plenty more women after me. So, it wasn't incredibly heart-wrenching to leave him behind. In addition, he didn't really seem to care about anything more than his own personal pleasure and he stated that repeatedly. Nathanos wanted what he wanted, and he would go after that, and that confidence was what I found attractive, but it wasn't love." "Do you love him now?" Perfectia asked. Sylvanas shook her head, "No, even if we were both still alive. Even now he seems to have no vision or principles beyond his own self-interest and mine. You love people that have principles, have character, a purpose that is bigger than themselves, and you love people who inspire you to be more through their example and I think that's why you fell in love with Anduin…" She paused and looked Perfectia in the eyes, "…and he fell in love with you." Sylvanas looked away, "A very rare few amounts of people would even think of walking behind enemy lines in disguise and declaring their love to an enemy king." Sylvanas shook her head, "It was stupidly reckless, and seemingly impossible, but here you are." Sylvanas thought back, " I didn't think of Nathanos once while I was fighting Arthas, I mean we had the numbers, we knew the areas, how could I have predicted a betrayal in my own people? When I was under his control and I couldn't make a single move without his permission I kept thinking maybe one of Nathanos's poisonous arrows would find its way into Arthas's neck and free me from that torment." Sylvanas thought back disgusted, "Then that cursed mage. Jaundace, was somehow free from Frostmourne's control because of love? I had never been so disgusted and yet regretful, and angry that we couldn't love each other, and I tried to focus on the idea that, on what if things were just a little different." Sylvanas's half smiled, "It became harder for Arthas to control me after that, when I thought about being in his embrace again. Until I was in complete control again." "Did you see him again?" Perfectia asked. Sylvanas nodded, "After I killed Grand Marshal Garithos and I was surprised. He ran up to me while I was on my horse, killed a few of my Forsaken troops and declared his undying love for me. He got down on his hands and knees and begged me to forgive him for not being there, it was truly pathetic. Like I was some kind of injured puppy that needed to be nursed back to health. I was angry and disgusted, not only because he wasn't there when I needed him, but the memory of seeing him grovel after remembering him so handsome and confident was completely destroyed. I said I was surprised to see him, but before, being next to him would make my cheeks blush and my lips and loins burn. Maybe it was the curse of the undead, maybe it was the pathetic scene he made of me and himself, but what I think it was, was that, why didn't he do this before? It was like he knew that he wasn't good enough for me before and now that I was cursed, now all of a sudden, I was. So, when I passed my curse onto him, I felt no sympathy, he would be a tool in my disposal, and I kept him in the Plaguelands so I would never have to be reminded of what could have been." Sylvanas half smiled, "I suppose over time I became less angry and after my sister Vereesa rejected my offer to kill Garrosh Hellscream in his cell, and I was declared Warchief of the Horde things were a lot lonelier from that point on, so which is why he hasn't left my side. I think he loves me still, but I don't think I can ever return it. We don't talk about times past, we were different people, and if he died tomorrow I would only be at a loss of losing a talented soldier. I suppose it would be a little lonelier." www.fanfiction.net/s/12174063/33/Peace-At-Last
@nobbel87 so i got this theory.i think we are gonna see a agreement between the horde and alliance about war, something like the geneve conventions, an agreement that sets rules for the treatment of prisoners and use of certain means to fight, like the use of azerite.i dont think there will be everlasting peace between the factions, that doesnt really fit in the universe of warcraft.i think we are gonna find something in this expansion or the next that slaps all faction leaders awake and shows that azeroth is dying, with the whole sword sticking out of the planet and the old gods and people using her blood to make even greater weapons to fight wars that hurt her even more, she is in a pretty bad state.and this is what makes the faction leaders at that time agree that we have to reduce the damage we do and dont totally annihilate all live and undeath on azeroth. and after that we will be tasked with finding a way to stop her from dying,i dont know how they will handle sylvanas and what her role is gonna be, i think its safe to say we arent gonna kill her, but we shall see. but what do you think nobbel? do you think we are gonna have some council of people talk about war and what is and isnt something that should be allowed, or do you think we will see just another sudden halt in the conflict because some big bad guy shows up and distracts us for awhile untill we deal with that and go back to fighting? PS: and as i am typing this i am reminded we still dont have much of the darker side of the alliance, or do we and i missed it?i could swear someone at blizzard said that both the horde and alliance were gonna have to deal with some things they were not proud of during the war.
I keep watching this video in a loop. I just love nathanos in a way that I can't explain. He's my favorite Npc... I lowkey cried when he died lol I guess I like boys who treat me like garbage.
I miss Nathanos too, it’s strange I know. The game is not the same without this passive aggressive lovelorn zombie. Bring back Nathanos. Sylvanas needs her pet again.
I wish all undead had the characterization to look like him because Lord knows I will pick an undead race if they look like him basically you know the human look. Or at least they can do the same concept with all the other races For all those that say it would just be a human reskin well with that if you are human and you just died on the field I mean your body isn't going to automatically rot like you've been dead for months or something and if you just died and you get raised up in battle by sylvanas that you're going to look exactly the way you did.
Could you do a video on Halford Wyrmbane? I mean, it’s clear he is the mastermind behind the strike in Dazar’alor, which turns out to be a massive victory for the Alliance. Everyone knows and respects him, and most of all it’s just refreshing to have an alliance character who is actively taking the fight to the Horde rather than simply reacting to what the Horde do. He is also a paladin with a heavy sense of honor, yet he openly embraces SI7 and the void elves as comrades. That guy is such a badass but I can’t find much about his lore. Yet he has been throughout the game for as long as I can remember (the dark portal entrance in the burning crusade and dragonblight zone in Northrend are what I can think of off the top of my head.) Anything you can find would be great!
Say what you will about the current loot structure, repetitive raids, and the inevitable decline of the game... Blizzard can write some damn good characters. This is a character who's been around since Classic
Nathanos is nothing more than a mere "pet" a "toy" Sylvanas have been playing with for the longest of time. He still thinks he is "a champion" or "something" but the truth is that he will be discarded like a used tissue, At least this would be true if he wasnt a self inserted character into the Lore of Warcraft.
Hey Nobbel! I was re-visiting Northrend with one of my new characters and went to this place called Thunderfall in The Storm Peaks. I was wondering if you've made a video about what happened there or why is there some dwarves and some giants frozen. Thanks a lot!
I see a neat parallel here between the story that Darth Sidious told to Anakin Skywalker about the Sith Lord that could raise the dead back to life, which led Anakin to the dark side.
I have a question regarding his "ressurection" for the second time, when he got the body of his cousin. You mentioned that the valkyr has to use a portion of her own essence to restore his body to not decay like the regular forsaken ones do. But does that mean that the valkyr died during the ritual?
Nah she was kneeling in the corner when he woke up. I think the idea is more that it taxes them greatly so it can't be done all the time. Meaning that Nathanos is more special to the banshee queen + her whole plan of getting the power to create more valkyr. That way they could do it to all the people.
hi nobbel! i'm so glad that you're covering nathanos :D i know that he's generally... disliked by the majority of the fanbase, but i happen to be one of the few who like him. plus the wow lore experience i've had with my friends (and we're all 25-35 year old ladies) has been that nathanos x sylvanas has become somewhat of an otp. ^-^ but hey, if you haven't seen i highly suggest checking out makanidotdot on tumblr. she's a fantastic artist who's been on a wow kick since the hype for bfa. (i think she worked on the official legend of korra comics, so a truly talented artist imo) you should look through the sylvanas tag. makanidotdot.tumblr.com/tagged/sylvanas she illustrated one of the parts you brought up in your vid makanidotdot.tumblr.com/post/178660889876/its-this-part-cut-for-a-whole-essaymore the little comments on some of these pics lol makanidotdot.tumblr.com/post/178244372371/nathanyes (it's not obvious to everyone so just click on the pics) and there are also some sillyness makanidotdot.tumblr.com/post/181686530531/have-you-seen-on-reddit i never knew i needed cat sylvanas, but it's wonderful x)
I thought his hatred for the alliance came from the fact that when they got their free will back they returned to the alliance only to get rejected cause of their new forms?
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He died. I killed him last night add me to his story lol
What a great channel. Let's pin a spoiler for people coming here to figure out who this guy is before doing the mission the spoiler is for...
@@ZechsMerquise73 The mission objective is literally to kill him. The information that he dies isn't a spoiler.
no u didnt tyrannde KS's you
Cap.
Can we talk for a moment about the perfect little pink bow Nethanos's new Scorge bae was wearing during her brief period of existence? You now it's the little things that make all the difference. Much respect to Nobbel.
It took me way too long to realize you were talking about a ribbon bow in her "hair" and not a "bow and arrow" XD
@@MsAFunk It's the little details that make all the difference! I mean, how else are we supposed to know she's a pretty pretty undead princess (in his eyes?)
Little things make no difference....like at all.
I loved that bow
Lll
For me, Nathanos has always been that guy who always tries to tell you how much better he is than you, despite not actually being the case. Based on how he interacts with you in quests he gives I half expect him to try to underplay everything you do.
"Oh, you helped to defeat Argus the manifestation of a Titan world-soul and vanquished the Burning Legion? Well I like, can do that with one hand tied behind my back."
"Oh, you were chosen as the Champion of Azeroth, and your armor is literally infused with the life-blood of Azeroth itself? Well, I am the Champion of the Banshee Queen and have a sick-ass coat. Take that."
To be fair though, it is a pretty cool coat.
God, I wish I could have that coat.
@ComocosonoEWL :V Hunting for bear ass is more fun than killing something legendary anyways
"Speaker of the Horde, *puh-lease* .."
@ComocosonoEWL I think WoW has reminded us of our place in the game with the many quest that required us to pick up animal dung.
Nah, we're champion now. Always champion. They note our accomplishments. For each of us, it wasn't some other group of adventurers, it was us. Our guild/raid group, that one time, was who it was. The other players' stories didn't happen, as far as we're concerned, and vise versa for them.
Young Princess Arthas @1:14 lol
Christopher Bronson I’m not the only one who heard that then xD
I Heard that too.
Princess Arthas shall become the Lich Queen
Idk
I'd smash
With the example of Dark Ranger Anya, it seems there's at least one pleasant hobby that the undead can carry forward from life...
... shipping.
UNDEAD BONE-ING
@@uzimyspecial is it still necrofelia if it two undead?lmao
oh god....whenever I think of Sylvanas and Nathanos being intimate, the sound of mounting your Acherus Deathcharger comes to mind...I hate that sound XDD
Nah his junk rotted off.
1:15 “ young princess, arthas menithil” 😯, I guess frostmorne swings both ways?
Arthas Trap confirmed xD
frostwhat?
frostMOAN
*BADUMTSS*
Lol
You're getting a like on this video simply because you put the old model for Sylvanas as the first person Nathanos sees when she calls his name. It's becoming more and more of a forgotten memory. It's always good to remember your past, then you'll do better in the future. Thank you for this, Nobbel.
im glad you include the "fascination" of windrunner sisters towards human males
Nathanos and Sylvanas: A better love story than Twilight.
I bet they met on Tinder
@justin perry Nathanos saved Lor'themar's life and helped Sylvanas fight off oraș when they attacked the elves. They beadically became a couple months later, they both matched perfectly, this is how he became ranger-lord. Its unfortunate I haven't played the horde side of quests to see the development of their relationship.
so... sylvanas was attracted to his archery skills and his "archery" skills, eh? i guess the meme of him being her boy toy isn't wrong.
Boy knows how to shoot 🤷
YES I was thinking a few days ago about if someone could do a lore on him. you beautiful man you!!
Your vids give me life! I love playing WOW, but the lore is really what keeps me going. I enjoy these so much and u do a great job!
Who else notices how soft Sylvanas’ voice gets when she says “nAthAnosssssss”
Yeah it’s kind of sweet.
I've been watching lore videos to catch up and never could figure out where this dude came from. Now I'm recalling all of the quests into the EP to find this guy. Good trip down memory lane.
Nathanos is one of my favourite characters in this expansion if not the most favourite. Thanks!
Nobbel, if you could add the part you did in a stream dissing on Nathanos at the end of the next video, just for comic relief, that would make my night.
That would be wonderul, pretty please :)
@@EruanneJfO - The video I am referring to for Nobbel dissing on Nathanos, is "Nobbel checking out Patch 7.3.5 - Week 1 [Stream Highlight]"
@@doug_b330 thank you~u! ruclips.net/video/s6XMdqGPSQc/видео.html in case anyone else is intersted. GO NOBBEL!
@@EruanneJfO 2019 and they still haven't made him a good character. It actually got worse!
@@Ikatsu-hs I know sadly, he makes me not wanting to complete the horde war campaign. Also he taunts me, while I almost 3 shot him... that is plot armor, nothing to breag about -.-
15:11 "There was no protruding bone. Well, there was... just a bit lower..."
AHH YESSS!! Been waiting for this one for a while, I'm so excited! I can't wait for Part 2 already haha.
Great job with this vid! I love Nathanos!
Your kind of stupid is sad.
me tooo ~ ///
@@JohnDoe-vn1we it's been a year but imagine get mad over a character opinion LMAO
It’s been so long since I’ve played WoW, but I still get excited Mondays when I hear your soothing voice retell the lore.
huh, so there is actually a lore explanation for why Nathanos' model got updated, neat.
Those Windrunners sure love their human boytoys
Na-THANOS.. Next expansion confirmed: World of Warcraft Endgame
Not.. entirely wrong.
The voice actor of Nathanos Blightcaller was in a child's bike safety video in the 80s as a guy named Sam Sprocket who has teleportation powers and wears a pink shirt.
The voice actor has done other wow characters too like Darkmaster Gandling in Scholomance and Star Auger in Nighthold.
Now I’m imagining Nathanos wearing a pink shirt, and teleporting everywhere xD
This is content ladies and gentlemen. Other RUclipsrs should take notes!
FINALLY, a character that I’m interested in!
In the pre-Shadowlands event we killed him 1,000s of times. I saved screenshots of the masses of us in Icecrown killing ALL the world bosses.
It was the largest gathering of simultaneous players in an event since WotLK. I was so happy I almost man-cried (smiled).
ya sure his hands, thats the body part sylvannus wanted working again
Okay, without getting too graphic here, you can do a much better job with fingers. Just saying.
Man I need to get my new computer hooked up and set up with a new desk that I have to get for it so I can play this game again. Haven't played since 2010 but these videos have convinced me to play world of warcraft once again! Though it's unlikely my account and characters still exist with how many years it's been :(.
Thank you...I love Nathanos. 🖖 Looking forward to part 2....x
I would’ve loved you saying Nathanos loudly as a command instead of having a sound clip of Sylvanas mentioning his name within a sentence. the casual voice took away a bit from the moment
loved the ghoul’s motions tho lol
I've lately noticed a lot of players calling Nathanos a "Simp" but i am confused, doesent he serve Sylvanas? Like hes her knight (Or champion)
Isn't it only natural he'd heed her every order?
What is you're opinion on this? Is he a "Simp" or just Loyal to a fault? (In any case he's one of the more interesting undead characters IMO)
It’s something taken from 4chan and inc*l message boards, to diss guys who respect women. Personally I think he’s an interesting and amusing character.
Ok forget Sylvanas and Nathanos, can we talk about visiting undercity for the first time and having a crush on Dark Ranger Anya?
if only i could play a forsaken that looks like nathanos blightcaller
That's some quality content, as always, Nobbel.
I've been thinking of making a video about Nathanos, too, well...-time to select another topic for the video! :D
Do your version. You do you! thumbs up!
@@x_ghost_x6612 Well, pretty sure some people will constantly say that I had the idea copied from Nobbel, especially that I'm a small content creator.
But thanks for the motivation!
you could do a video about vrykul traditions and culture since we know a lot of it
well we all know what nathanos and sylvanas do in their "spare time" /greetings from MoonGuard(c)
17:01
"Yes. I've damned everyone and everything I've ever loved in his name, and I still feel no remorse. No shame. No pity."
I just wish forsaken could look like him, kind of like human models that look like just grey humans with red, orange, and yellow eyes
Yes they should do more customesation options for the undead.
Y'all need to commit to being a rotten corpse, otherwise it's just Humans reskined AKA the Elf problem Wow has
@@SamuraiMorshu but why has my rotten corps need to wear broken gear? If only the gear looks normal and he can stand upright. Like the orcs can now im fine.
And WoW does every race reskinning now, so whats the problem to make a better looking undead?
i get what your saying but isnt that just a human deathknight?
@@alexandervega6687 isnt undead not just a undead human?
"something raised within him" oh i bet it did Nathanos ;-) ;-) lol (honestly as weird and convoluted things have gotten, and as much as i am confused by her doings lately, i am totally her for that ship
THIS IS LITERALLY INSANE 2 DAYS AGO I LOOKED THROUGH YOUR CHANNEL FOR A NATHANOS BLIGHTCALLER LORE VIDEO!!!! YOU MUST'VE POSTED IT RIGHT AFTER. My mind is completely blown.
1:13 NOBbel you said PRINCESS Arthas Menethil LMAOOO
savage
Arthas top waifu confirmed.
Undead can get an close relative and change bodies with them to become stronger? I didnt quite get it
They change bodies? Or the life force from Stephon Marris is transfered to Nathanos alongside with his features?
One of my favourite lore characters. And I'm with Anya on this one. Not sure if he's actually oblivious or what. XD
13:25 Just realized Warchief could been raising an army of death knights this entire time.....
OMG I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS I CLICKED SO FAST
Awesome! I have been waiting a long time for this one! Thanks Nobbel!!!
😭😭😭 the cliff hanger I want MOAR NOW!!!
Was fun hanging while you got some of this footage! Glad to see this one
i think nathanos is an underrated and misunderstood character. don't understand all the hate for him.
He is too OP
Nathanos is literally everywhere for Horde in BfA, listening to this clown who has done jack shit compared to the PC make some smartass comment every single time we see him gets old fast.
They take out thier anger for Sylvanas on him, since she's not exactly very active since pre patch. It's well known how much she triggers the incels online lately. Any character heavily associated to her will be hated. It's stupid as fuck but I personally find it hilarious.
Disctete Nah. Nathanos is just extremely boring. Gallywix is a scumbag too but at least he's enjoyable.
@@DrGameLord Pretty much, this video made him SLIGHTLY more enjoyable but he's still a boring character that is used way too much.
Nathanos is just a way of introducing a (Dead) Human Allied Race for Horde, a bit like Calia Menethil introduces Undead to the Alliance. It would have been much simpler if they had just given Horde Ogres and Alliance High Elves rather than all the messy Allied Races. I know they didn't do this because of the "Orges are too big" and "Blood Elves are High Elves" arguments but IMO that would have been better. Tauren(ish) sized Ogres would have been fine and if there weren't enough High Elves than how can there be enough Void Elves?!?
Kul'Tiran Humans and Zandalari Troll's are alright the rest are meh reskins.
Nathanos seems like a pretty badass character, though I think he is also a bit flat with all of the "my queen" stuff. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I do wish he had a bit more of a character arc in the new expansion. For the expansion that was supposed to focus on characters more, bfa has really forgotten about some of the best.
I don't think he's 100% honest with the whole "my queen" stuff. I feel he is somewhat troubled by Sylvanas's actions but still has his sense of loyalty.
i cant wait to see how he become the king of forsaken. and sylvanas to die or become the next lich king (queen).
Mason Lee AKA you just hate the queen herself so you find any loyalty to her overused lol
Lol. He's was saying "muh queen" before Jon Snow did.
Good job on the video man, this was really good. Thanks for the good content and effort put into the video.
where is that sylvanas as a high elf cinematic clip from? 0:35 is that HotS?
yea
Cool really enjoyed it. My race that I care about the most is the forsaken and the dark lady. When I first saw them they blew my mind. I love fantasy and skeletons are really cool warriors. And the forsaken are really cool.
Always nice to see my older Lor'themar picture! Thanks again Nobbel!
Great lore Nobbel! I'm sure that there is more behind why Nathanos was chosen as Champion
I agree i have been wanting you to do a Video on Nathanos for a wile i was curious how he got his new body. Thank you for clearing that up can't wait to see Part 2. I will agree with Doug be nice to see a dissing vid from you once in a wile.. I laughed at your Blood elf Heritage Armor video with Sunstrider ding to nothing and then them standing there.. Keep up the good work
I started playing wow during the 1st third of BC and I had no idea Nathanos has so much history, I just thought they made him up or something. Nobbel strikes again with KNOWLEDGE!
I waited for this character lore for so loooong , and there it is ;)
What year did they first talk about nathanos and Sylvanas as a couple? They remind me of wretch and ghost widow from city of heroes and I'm curious which came first.
I just realized that Arthas' father must of had him late, when he's ruled a kingdom for 70 years and his son is only in his mid 20s
Wishful thinking; Forsaken heritage armour quest will unlock an option to reskin your toon to look more human-like, a la Nathanos
You know what Nathanos needs now to fit with cool coat? Ashbringer. Considered that it is currently in hands of Liadrin, faithfull lackey of Lich Queen, that would be possible even lorewise.
It's not cannon but maybe with a little more traffic Blizzard would consider it. A little something I wrote:
"Nathanos was one of the only human rangers in the Farstriders at the time and most of my kind were a little disgusted with him but they couldn't deny his skill. Nathanos Marris had certain traits that I immediately found appealing and one of the most prominent was his penchant for taking risk and coming out on top. He wasn't a young upstart wanting to be guided into greatness but also wasn't a centuries old member fearing that everything they worked for could be gone in one second in a battle. He knew that he came from nothing and he would die with nothing, he told me that he was expendable and with that, I threw him at the most dangerous members of the Horde. When he would win I was drawn to him and I knew he was very attracted to me. It was even more strange because I was the Ranger General of Silvermoon. Most men were afraid of me, they knew at the most I could kill them easily or at the least strip them of rank and power." Sylvanas laughed, "That didn't stop him from making his affection to me very obvious."
"He brought me a flower and I threatened to kill him. Nathanos said, 'I could bring you gems if that's what you would like.' Right in front of everyone, in front of my people, but he only had to look at them for them to stand down. Even as a soldier in my command I could see he had power that had taken me decades to obtain and I told him I could strip him of rank and he just shrugged, smiled, and walked away. He had this playful attitude toward everything and he didn't just take risks with extremely dangerous enemies, he took a risk with an extremely dangerous… well, me."
"He made his way into my private tent with gems this time, I drew my arrow, and he placed them on the nightstand by my bed. He told me that he lived to serve me, if I wanted him to die he would die, but it would be such a waste of his talents that could be used elsewhere, in matters of war and love. During that time there was almost a week of downtime. No fighting, no battles, just patrols and training. He was bored, I suppose, and so was I. I looked away and told him there were plenty of elves that admired him, that he could easily take to bed. Nathanos said, 'There's only you. My life is yours. My sword is yours. My bow is yours…' he paused, '…my heart is yours. Send me to kill your enemies anywhere… and I'll go.' I smiled, and I told him to take off his clothes."
"Did you?" Perfectia hinted.
Sylvanas nodded, "Many times, yes. I was somewhat pleasantly surprised when I passed my blood those weeks because I found out my sister Alleria was carrying from just one night with Turalyon, but I never really saw a future with Nathanos. I was clearly attracted to him, but in the end, I had no problem leaving him. I said farewell to a man who loves me, a man I thought I cared for, and I felt nothing."
"Why?" Perfectia asked.
Sylvanas looked away as she thought back, "I don't know, he was missing something. He was simple, he only did what he wanted to do. He pursued me because he found me physically attractive, but I think that's all we cared about, the feelings on both sides were relatively shallow. I think he was genuinely impressed with my character by the end of our time together, but when I left, he seemed mostly disappointed that he would never have a conquest with the same status or title. I knew he would never forget me, I knew that he would most likely brag about me, and I knew there would be plenty more women after me. So, it wasn't incredibly heart-wrenching to leave him behind. In addition, he didn't really seem to care about anything more than his own personal pleasure and he stated that repeatedly. Nathanos wanted what he wanted, and he would go after that, and that confidence was what I found attractive, but it wasn't love."
"Do you love him now?" Perfectia asked.
Sylvanas shook her head, "No, even if we were both still alive. Even now he seems to have no vision or principles beyond his own self-interest and mine. You love people that have principles, have character, a purpose that is bigger than themselves, and you love people who inspire you to be more through their example and I think that's why you fell in love with Anduin…" She paused and looked Perfectia in the eyes, "…and he fell in love with you." Sylvanas looked away, "A very rare few amounts of people would even think of walking behind enemy lines in disguise and declaring their love to an enemy king." Sylvanas shook her head, "It was stupidly reckless, and seemingly impossible, but here you are."
Sylvanas thought back, " I didn't think of Nathanos once while I was fighting Arthas, I mean we had the numbers, we knew the areas, how could I have predicted a betrayal in my own people? When I was under his control and I couldn't make a single move without his permission I kept thinking maybe one of Nathanos's poisonous arrows would find its way into Arthas's neck and free me from that torment."
Sylvanas thought back disgusted, "Then that cursed mage. Jaundace, was somehow free from Frostmourne's control because of love? I had never been so disgusted and yet regretful, and angry that we couldn't love each other, and I tried to focus on the idea that, on what if things were just a little different." Sylvanas's half smiled, "It became harder for Arthas to control me after that, when I thought about being in his embrace again. Until I was in complete control again."
"Did you see him again?" Perfectia asked.
Sylvanas nodded, "After I killed Grand Marshal Garithos and I was surprised. He ran up to me while I was on my horse, killed a few of my Forsaken troops and declared his undying love for me. He got down on his hands and knees and begged me to forgive him for not being there, it was truly pathetic. Like I was some kind of injured puppy that needed to be nursed back to health. I was angry and disgusted, not only because he wasn't there when I needed him, but the memory of seeing him grovel after remembering him so handsome and confident was completely destroyed. I said I was surprised to see him, but before, being next to him would make my cheeks blush and my lips and loins burn. Maybe it was the curse of the undead, maybe it was the pathetic scene he made of me and himself, but what I think it was, was that, why didn't he do this before? It was like he knew that he wasn't good enough for me before and now that I was cursed, now all of a sudden, I was. So, when I passed my curse onto him, I felt no sympathy, he would be a tool in my disposal, and I kept him in the Plaguelands so I would never have to be reminded of what could have been."
Sylvanas half smiled, "I suppose over time I became less angry and after my sister Vereesa rejected my offer to kill Garrosh Hellscream in his cell, and I was declared Warchief of the Horde things were a lot lonelier from that point on, so which is why he hasn't left my side. I think he loves me still, but I don't think I can ever return it. We don't talk about times past, we were different people, and if he died tomorrow I would only be at a loss of losing a talented soldier. I suppose it would be a little lonelier."
www.fanfiction.net/s/12174063/33/Peace-At-Last
Dude, love your Narration.
Wow, I had no clue he'd been in the game before. Very cool to get this info
@nobbel87 so i got this theory.i think we are gonna see a agreement between the horde and alliance about war, something like the geneve conventions, an agreement that sets rules for the treatment of prisoners and use of certain means to fight, like the use of azerite.i dont think there will be everlasting peace between the factions, that doesnt really fit in the universe of warcraft.i think we are gonna find something in this expansion or the next that slaps all faction leaders awake and shows that azeroth is dying, with the whole sword sticking out of the planet and the old gods and people using her blood to make even greater weapons to fight wars that hurt her even more, she is in a pretty bad state.and this is what makes the faction leaders at that time agree that we have to reduce the damage we do and dont totally annihilate all live and undeath on azeroth.
and after that we will be tasked with finding a way to stop her from dying,i dont know how they will handle sylvanas and what her role is gonna be, i think its safe to say we arent gonna kill her, but we shall see.
but what do you think nobbel? do you think we are gonna have some council of people talk about war and what is and isnt something that should be allowed, or do you think we will see just another sudden halt in the conflict because some big bad guy shows up and distracts us for awhile untill we deal with that and go back to fighting?
PS: and as i am typing this i am reminded we still dont have much of the darker side of the alliance, or do we and i missed it?i could swear someone at blizzard said that both the horde and alliance were gonna have to deal with some things they were not proud of during the war.
I keep watching this video in a loop. I just love nathanos in a way that I can't explain. He's my favorite Npc... I lowkey cried when he died lol
I guess I like boys who treat me like garbage.
I miss Nathanos too, it’s strange I know. The game is not the same without this passive aggressive lovelorn zombie. Bring back Nathanos. Sylvanas needs her pet again.
I wish all undead had the characterization to look like him because Lord knows I will pick an undead race if they look like him basically you know the human look. Or at least they can do the same concept with all the other races
For all those that say it would just be a human reskin well with that if you are human and you just died on the field I mean your body isn't going to automatically rot like you've been dead for months or something and if you just died and you get raised up in battle by sylvanas that you're going to look exactly the way you did.
Been waiting for this a looooong time :)
Could you do a video on Halford Wyrmbane? I mean, it’s clear he is the mastermind behind the strike in Dazar’alor, which turns out to be a massive victory for the Alliance. Everyone knows and respects him, and most of all it’s just refreshing to have an alliance character who is actively taking the fight to the Horde rather than simply reacting to what the Horde do. He is also a paladin with a heavy sense of honor, yet he openly embraces SI7 and the void elves as comrades. That guy is such a badass but I can’t find much about his lore. Yet he has been throughout the game for as long as I can remember (the dark portal entrance in the burning crusade and dragonblight zone in Northrend are what I can think of off the top of my head.) Anything you can find would be great!
Say what you will about the current loot structure, repetitive raids, and the inevitable decline of the game... Blizzard can write some damn good characters. This is a character who's been around since Classic
the pink bow on the raised ghoul is really something LOL
Nathanos and Sylvanas definitely banged after the ritual
Nathanos is nothing more than a mere "pet" a "toy" Sylvanas have been playing with for the longest of time. He still thinks he is "a champion" or "something" but the truth is that he will be discarded like a used tissue, At least this would be true if he wasnt a self inserted character into the Lore of Warcraft.
Always remember him handing the Alliance their ass during Vanilla. Was funny as hell to stand back and watch
oof much love but that Sylvanas voice was bone... mood wrecking. FOR THE DARK LADY!
I would love to see you make a video about the Dalaran (both old and new) coins. Who the tossers are and why they made their wishes. Happy New Year!
This guy is a complete fedoralord. Tip Tip M'lady Sylvanas
You could be a real storyteller....such soothing voice :)
Hey Nobbel! I was re-visiting Northrend with one of my new characters and went to this place called Thunderfall in The Storm Peaks. I was wondering if you've made a video about what happened there or why is there some dwarves and some giants frozen. Thanks a lot!
4:15 The female zomby looks so lovely xD
That was good my man. The 3rd sylvanas voice line of Nolthanos really sent chills though. Getting better and better good sir
Forsaken are just ghouls with work done.... neat
Now, all can see...
(thanks, really was always wanting to know the guy)
I see a neat parallel here between the story that Darth Sidious told to Anakin Skywalker about the Sith Lord that could raise the dead back to life, which led Anakin to the dark side.
that's pretty cool. i had no idea who he was haha. probably should've payed more attention to the quests xD
After thinking on the undead armor I see what they where thinking and I think it will grow on you the more you think about it.
I am having major deja vu
I have a question regarding his "ressurection" for the second time, when he got the body of his cousin. You mentioned that the valkyr has to use a portion of her own essence to restore his body to not decay like the regular forsaken ones do. But does that mean that the valkyr died during the ritual?
Nah she was kneeling in the corner when he woke up. I think the idea is more that it taxes them greatly so it can't be done all the time. Meaning that Nathanos is more special to the banshee queen + her whole plan of getting the power to create more valkyr. That way they could do it to all the people.
Love your videos man 🤗
hi nobbel! i'm so glad that you're covering nathanos :D
i know that he's generally... disliked by the majority of the fanbase, but i happen to be one of the few who like him.
plus the wow lore experience i've had with my friends (and we're all 25-35 year old ladies) has been that nathanos x sylvanas has become somewhat of an otp. ^-^
but hey, if you haven't seen i highly suggest checking out makanidotdot on tumblr. she's a fantastic artist who's been on a wow kick since the hype for bfa. (i think she worked on the official legend of korra comics, so a truly talented artist imo)
you should look through the sylvanas tag. makanidotdot.tumblr.com/tagged/sylvanas
she illustrated one of the parts you brought up in your vid
makanidotdot.tumblr.com/post/178660889876/its-this-part-cut-for-a-whole-essaymore
the little comments on some of these pics lol
makanidotdot.tumblr.com/post/178244372371/nathanyes
(it's not obvious to everyone so just click on the pics)
and there are also some sillyness
makanidotdot.tumblr.com/post/181686530531/have-you-seen-on-reddit
i never knew i needed cat sylvanas, but it's wonderful x)
Vary nice! Thank you for sharing.
Embrace the Shadow!!!
Thank god I thought I was the only one who likes nathanos. Really likes.
So if I get that right, that banshee drained Nathano's cousin "life-fuel" and gives it to Nathanos himself in order to restore him
That's cool
I love what she’d done with her hair 4:17
are you reading from the wiki or some book if so witch one the dialog between nathanos and sylvanas spesifically
There is a short story called "Edge of Night", read it =)
It’s from a short story called “Dark Mirror” by Steve Danuser.
If you don't want to watch the whole video:
He's slyvannas booty call.
Sylvannas’ book - retconned your story Lolol
I thought his hatred for the alliance came from the fact that when they got their free will back they returned to the alliance only to get rejected cause of their new forms?
0:53
Seems the Windrunner sisters share something in common.
*wink wink nudge nudge*
I stopped doing the war campaign quest because of Nathan's. he just keeps calling and I've blocked all his numbers but he won't leave me alone!
Nathanos*
ay, champion! Want to go bowling?
Hey nobbel could you make a lore video about how some the scourge ended up in outland