How FIFA lost their video game franchise

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    In 2023, the most popular sports video game franchise in the world had to change its name. FIFA, as it was known, became EA FC.
    What began simply as a negotiating position in a licensing dispute, turned into one of the costliest decisions in the history of football.
    James Montague explains, illustrated by Craig Silcock.
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Комментарии • 974

  • @itsmalk5970
    @itsmalk5970 20 дней назад +5520

    Seeing EA as the less greedy company is mind boggling. 😂

    • @paulnduati8355
      @paulnduati8355 20 дней назад +45

      RIght?

    • @loockedfrenchtv7189
      @loockedfrenchtv7189 20 дней назад +24

      they would be less greedy if they paid more for FIFA license.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 20 дней назад +135

      ​@@loockedfrenchtv7189 why though? I hate to defend EA but fans don't care about the FIFA name and it's not their job to hand FIFA money for no good reason.
      Even overlooking FIFA's terrible corruption record and other general scummy behaviour, they are not owed cash for the sake of it.

    • @ReSunDestin
      @ReSunDestin 20 дней назад +41

      They weren't less greedy, they just didn't want to pay the greed of another company

    • @Mpb17-Music-
      @Mpb17-Music- 20 дней назад +4

      What you going on about ea are money grabbing from everyone you div

  • @Rustylad12
    @Rustylad12 20 дней назад +3307

    Moral of the video.
    EA : Greedy
    FIFA : Greedy and stupid.

    • @kenoobe23
      @kenoobe23 20 дней назад +46

      moral of the video.
      ea have been producing this game only for fifa to make profit, then ea grow balls

    • @T.E.S.S.
      @T.E.S.S. 19 дней назад +29

      @@davidmontgomery1442 "It's also pretty telling that EAFC is so closely associated with the FIFA license to this day that people still just call it FIFA"
      "to this day"? mate, it's been 7 months. there's been one release under the new name, after 30 YEARS of releases under the FIFA name. It's not "pretty telling" at all. Give your head a wobble.

    • @SkytorRushTV
      @SkytorRushTV 19 дней назад

      sounds about right

    • @sdx3918
      @sdx3918 19 дней назад +13

      More accurately
      EA: Greedy and stupid
      FIFA: Greedy, stupid and stupid

    • @chrischarman8707
      @chrischarman8707 19 дней назад

      Greedy and stupid that’s infantino right there

  • @sanchit404
    @sanchit404 20 дней назад +4692

    It's very rare when EA is lesser of the two evils

    • @WokeUpToSomeBullshit.
      @WokeUpToSomeBullshit. 20 дней назад +83

      Facts..only FIFA and UEFA can outshine EA on that department.

    • @TheWefikus
      @TheWefikus 20 дней назад

      EA are evil while FIFA are just a bunch of old morons.

    • @ready4cheeseburger
      @ready4cheeseburger 20 дней назад +33

      yeah only cases where there is some one greedier but dumber

    • @geordiedog1749
      @geordiedog1749 20 дней назад +5

      Ha! Yes. Very true!

    • @welowee7610
      @welowee7610 20 дней назад

      Nah they’re both evil.
      EA just happen to hold most of the resource and win the race for now

  • @Tomoyo_Sayomura
    @Tomoyo_Sayomura 20 дней назад +1866

    when EA are the good guys in a story, this is truly a messed up situation we are in.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 20 дней назад +35

      It says a lot for how bad FIFA are.

    • @prodigy84bg
      @prodigy84bg 20 дней назад +22

      Well, EA are still charging a ridiculous amount of money for a below-par gameplay experience with cartoonish physics and player movement.

    • @Petrolosis
      @Petrolosis 20 дней назад +16

      There are no good guys

    • @el-youtub3r402
      @el-youtub3r402 20 дней назад

      FIFA is full off corrupt, greedy old seniles! Who just want to fill their pockets with money
      Bunch of a-holes

    • @tamagonbagel6569
      @tamagonbagel6569 20 дней назад +1

      I'm not sure if it's a good guy situation so much as one big corporation calling another out on BS. FIFA really thought it was 25% of the value of the EA games.

  • @LordMarps
    @LordMarps 20 дней назад +1193

    That FIFA thought they were going to out-greed EA is absolutely wild

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 19 дней назад +14

      EA always is greedy ever since 2014.

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 17 дней назад +1

      Lies again? Ramenten Rakuten Loyalty Bonus

    • @arsenal_84
      @arsenal_84 13 часов назад

      Remember FIFA uncovered in Netflix ?

  • @arshavindrameh32
    @arshavindrameh32 20 дней назад +1252

    Don’t understand the greediness of FIFA they always want more,more and even more

    • @nankam
      @nankam 20 дней назад +92

      I just hope their greed doesn't ruin the world cup by making it every two years like they've been pushing to.

    • @cyberpokey
      @cyberpokey 20 дней назад +58

      Yet somehow Fifa is classified as a “non profit” organization

    • @nothingbeatsawoodie
      @nothingbeatsawoodie 20 дней назад +9

      @@cyberpokey that is a lie. fifa is not classified as a non profit organisation

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 20 дней назад +29

      ​@@cyberpokey it's simple. The people at the head of FIFA line their own pockets until there's no profit left.

    • @hilaireb795
      @hilaireb795 20 дней назад

      and then even more than that. it is incredible tbh

  • @xiaogu00fa
    @xiaogu00fa 20 дней назад +195

    It's not only about greediness, FIFA overestimated the importance of its name.

    • @PaddyMac
      @PaddyMac 18 дней назад +5

      Probably a more accurate assessment of this 👍

    • @mahshshsrklingfa7031
      @mahshshsrklingfa7031 15 дней назад +1

      They literally asked for more money

    • @greekstreek370
      @greekstreek370 15 дней назад

      @@mahshshsrklingfa7031asking for more money works fine if you have something of value. The main point here is how laughably narcissistic FIFA leadership is to think that only a football game with their name on it can sell, and that their 4 letters were the most important part of the product. Truly out of touch with what the average person thinks of their brand.

    • @Gooner184
      @Gooner184 День назад +1

      @@mahshshsrklingfa7031 Yeah, they overestimated their importance. They though they were entitle to more money and that EA would suffer without the FIFA name attached to the game. They thought wrong.

  • @gustavodias4879
    @gustavodias4879 20 дней назад +1399

    Meanwhile, Football Manager goes on silently as the best of them all.

    • @adventurerwannabe
      @adventurerwannabe 20 дней назад +40

      Do you actually play in that game? Or are the games just simulated

    • @Bentley7Cruize
      @Bentley7Cruize 20 дней назад +260

      ​@adventurerwannabe they are live simulations. It's the true experience of being a manager. You set your club and team up for success and you watch from the sidelines and make tactical adjustments that you hope your players listen to. Its better than fifa to me because I can't just control the players and make them play my way. I have to pick a team and tactics that will lead the game to be played in a way I want... and even then, we may go down and I will have to adjust my tactics or trust that my team will work their way into the game. You are a manager, not an omnipotent God like character that controls every player on the field lol

    • @finn56950
      @finn56950 20 дней назад +312

      thats like comparing chess to gta. completely different games.

    • @adventurerwannabe
      @adventurerwannabe 20 дней назад +37

      @@finn56950 yeah. Sounds cool but its something totally different

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk 20 дней назад +65

      @@adventurerwannabethe gameplay is setting up the tactics and running the club, basically you play both as the manager and the director of football.
      If fifa is trying to simulate being Messi then FM is trying to simulate being Pep Guardiola.

  • @saicharand7765
    @saicharand7765 20 дней назад +387

    EA and FIFA deserve each other
    Football fans and gamers deserve far better

    • @uhobme2028
      @uhobme2028 20 дней назад +11

      With the money the latters freely gives the formers, no they don't
      They all deserve each other

    • @XxDaTkIdFromBtOwNxX
      @XxDaTkIdFromBtOwNxX 20 дней назад +3

      Facts, this why I stop buying FIFA back in 2018

    • @0liveboi
      @0liveboi 19 дней назад +5

      we all shouldve supported PES. now theyre dying and desperate to challenge EA by making their own Ultimate Team with eFootball... which i would say is the worst football game ever, even compared to FIFA...

    • @filipeventura2729
      @filipeventura2729 16 дней назад

      and 2k is just the same ahha

    • @jonahfalcon1970
      @jonahfalcon1970 14 дней назад +2

      PES was just as greedy lol Missed some of the disasters with that franchise, did we?
      Yeah, Konami never makes bad decisions. Remember, Pachinko > Metal Gear 😂😂😂😂

  • @BoostlessJoe
    @BoostlessJoe 20 дней назад +58

    the best part is that if FIFA had asked for a 5 or 10% increase on their existing deal, EA would have probably accepted

  • @10Zenil
    @10Zenil 20 дней назад +477

    Football Manager is where the good stuff is at. FIFA turned to garbage ever since they added cards and made it into a gambling app rather than a fun football game it was before

    • @shakiMiki
      @shakiMiki 20 дней назад +17

      Its not a video about the game. Its about a business dispute.

    • @liljs4189
      @liljs4189 20 дней назад +16

      There’s been cards for more than a decade so you’re pretty far off

    • @313gwar
      @313gwar 20 дней назад +16

      2013 was the last good fifa.

    • @FizzyGajing
      @FizzyGajing 20 дней назад +7

      How did this even get 51 likes? You can buy cards since forever.

    • @bigbadslimee
      @bigbadslimee 20 дней назад +28

      FM and EA FC are two completely different types of games, it's stilly to compare them

  • @shesh32
    @shesh32 20 дней назад +315

    3:25 "Creative, innovative and experimental". That's a fraudulent thing said by EA. It's like Jessi Lingard saying he's better than Messi and Ronaldo.

    • @eddouglas
      @eddouglas 20 дней назад +32

      "more gambling modes for kids" is the laymans terms.

    • @eduardomartins92
      @eduardomartins92 20 дней назад +1

      @@eddouglas💯

    • @sakarisalomaa2174
      @sakarisalomaa2174 20 дней назад +4

      ...In the marketplace. Which they are by barely developing their game and getting kids hooked on gambling. Actually they even sabotage their own product to drive everyone in the gambling game mode and tilt it in the favor of those who pay up. That's being really inventive in marketplace.

    • @MrMajek94
      @MrMajek94 20 дней назад

      But they are.

    • @ayaalnovgorodov8619
      @ayaalnovgorodov8619 20 дней назад +3

      They are creative when its time to name store packs at least...

  • @G-B420
    @G-B420 19 дней назад +19

    MAKE PES GREAT AGAIN

  • @buscadiamantes1232
    @buscadiamantes1232 20 дней назад +170

    I disagree with the statement that says the difference between PES and FIFA came in 2008.
    Maybe from a statistical point of view, but PES was still strong up until 2014, with the terrible PES 2014, and the FOX Engine games killed the saga. The EFootball rebrand is just the coffin for the belated PES

    • @folarinalabi3250
      @folarinalabi3250 20 дней назад +7

      Don’t think he’s saying that. PES was still strong, but FIFA got even stronger

    • @omgblastbeatslol
      @omgblastbeatslol 20 дней назад +21

      I think he's saying that 2008 is when EA really ramped up their policy of stealing from PES.

    • @JYM60
      @JYM60 20 дней назад +14

      ​@@omgblastbeatslolYes, Once the PS3/360 came out FIFA basically destroyed PES from then on.

    • @BiggestBirdonMars
      @BiggestBirdonMars 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@JYM60yeah I stopped playing Pes when I started playing on the PS3

    • @drago939393
      @drago939393 19 дней назад +13

      The point is that the 360/PS3 era was the beginning of the end. PES was blatantly superior in the PS2 era (PES 2-6) but the latter games were mediocre relatively speaking (PES 2008-10) while the games afterwards (PES 11-14) were terrible, especially when compared to FIFA which was exploding thanks to Ultimate Team. PES 15 was the start of a mini renaissance, PES 16 and onwards really was a new golden age in terms of gameplay - but alas, it was all a little too late, as the commercial war was long lost. The eFootball rebrand itself wasn't an issue, the half-assed F2P change in direction was...

  • @somethinglikethat2176
    @somethinglikethat2176 20 дней назад +256

    I would have loved to be a fly on the wall as Gianni Infantino found out that games can't be made in a few months.
    Also the complete indifference of fans to the lack of a FIFA logo must sting a little too.

    • @GuyJames
      @GuyJames 20 дней назад +37

      I think even more than indifference, a lot of fans actively dislike FIFA for their very obvious corruption and greed

    • @mattbyrne8202
      @mattbyrne8202 20 дней назад +44

      What infantino and his cronies don’t realise is that not giving money to fifa is an incentive for fans to buy EA FC 😂

    • @shadmankabir5916
      @shadmankabir5916 20 дней назад +4

      @@GuyJames such a shame that the irony of that statement is lost on pretty much every fan out there

    • @tbawws3975
      @tbawws3975 16 дней назад +1

      Especially if the rights were to go to a company like 2K where the game would then have to be built from the ground up😂😂😂

    • @BenBebbington
      @BenBebbington 15 часов назад

      If only there had been a long running football game where they played out what happens when there's a split between coders and the people who had the name and nothing else.
      If only.
      Anyone tried Championship Manager 2024? Struggling to track it down, mesen.

  • @MauriceGucci
    @MauriceGucci 20 дней назад +20

    Imagine having zero leverage, getting hundreds of millions essentially for free and ruining the deal because you want more free money.

  • @q.veyane5388
    @q.veyane5388 20 дней назад +80

    Infantino is a pure politician he just says things to please. Things that aren't practical at all, look at the nonsense he done with the world cup 42 teams honestly. The world cup is a free for all as for EA well....

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 20 дней назад +11

      Just when you tought Blatter was the worst, along came Infantino.

    • @MatheusFernandes-xf4zm
      @MatheusFernandes-xf4zm 19 дней назад +2

      It's not about being practicable, but profitable.

    • @clinton_x
      @clinton_x 16 дней назад

      I see nothing wrong with having 42 in the WC

    • @smartsquirrel1
      @smartsquirrel1 12 дней назад +1

      ​@@patanouketgersiflet9486 infantino, blatter, platini all corrupt to the core. Really wish Figo had won football would have been the focus.

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 12 дней назад +1

      @@clinton_x Sure, why not 84? Let's have a competition with dozens upon dozens of countries that last monthS, plural.

  • @kwazilucas
    @kwazilucas 20 дней назад +214

    20 billion dollars is bottomless money

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 20 дней назад +3

      Million. Unless I missed a part.

    • @kwazilucas
      @kwazilucas 20 дней назад

      ​@@snoopyguy21go to 0:19

    • @S3condW1nd
      @S3condW1nd 20 дней назад +7

      0:49

    • @spacespino
      @spacespino 20 дней назад +10

      Do you have any idea how many Shrek 2 dvds I could buy with that kind of money?

    • @kwazilucas
      @kwazilucas 20 дней назад

      @@spacespino huh? Why would do that

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon 20 дней назад +97

    EA vs FIFA is like the Wrestlemania main event to determine who's the biggest greedy bustard😂

    • @kenoobe23
      @kenoobe23 20 дней назад +3

      nope. smackdown and raw is created by the same guy .

    • @BenBebbington
      @BenBebbington 15 часов назад

      🎵You think you're special... you do

  • @FilonisHat
    @FilonisHat 20 дней назад +5

    FIFA Vs. EA. Whoever wins, we lose.

  • @Dionach
    @Dionach 20 дней назад +42

    It's wild that FIFA (the organization) thought they had a strong position to bargain from. Most average people wouldn't know who they were without the video game named after them

    • @jesuspinto9805
      @jesuspinto9805 17 дней назад +2

      That's not true

    • @Dionach
      @Dionach 16 дней назад

      @@jesuspinto9805 I suspect that if you told people UEFA, CONCACAF and CONMEBOL were sexually transmitted infections, or rival factions in an obscure civil war, they wouldn't argue with you!

    • @ristoravela652
      @ristoravela652 13 дней назад +2

      LOL, what? Everyone who seriously follows football knows what FIFA is, and that's a lot more people than the people who play the game.

    • @thirtythreehz
      @thirtythreehz 12 дней назад

      False

  • @prayaschatterjee4463
    @prayaschatterjee4463 20 дней назад +93

    But the thing is PES(Now efootball 2024) has fallen off massively

    • @RahulSharma-wq4qy
      @RahulSharma-wq4qy 20 дней назад +12

      Agreed. I stopped playing after they changed their name.

    • @farhi411
      @farhi411 20 дней назад +41

      And still better than EAFC in terms of gameplay

    • @fartimusmaximus8710
      @fartimusmaximus8710 20 дней назад +32

      ​@@farhi411 yeah , if you like playing a game that feels 2 console generations behind

    • @rmnkhr
      @rmnkhr 20 дней назад +5

      you should try smokepatch's football life. basically pes' gameplay with licencing (modded of course)

    • @patrykchlipaa257
      @patrykchlipaa257 20 дней назад +2

      Well I still hope for redemption, as the general concept for the gameplay, progress in FUT-like mode and ideas are far better than EA's. Big streamers are tired of FC24 already, so some may shift and show the other game to wider public. Compare emotions of NickRTFM between when he plays FC and eFootball. I think there lays massive potential, but Konami needs to full send into market, add more modes, listen to the community more and they will get it. Also there comes new football games in UFL and Goals, so finally maybe by collective effort we make EA actually invest in the game more and it will only profit whole community, coz right now for PS5-gen we didn't really have a fun football game.

  • @HappyWaffle
    @HappyWaffle 20 дней назад +20

    One keep point that was glossed over is that EA has a monopoly over the licensing. So even if FIFA were to release a new competing football game, it would still face all the issues that the PES series had.

    • @hamzaadib9927
      @hamzaadib9927 19 дней назад +1

      maybe fifa has a way to go around that obstacle

    • @TheHesseJames
      @TheHesseJames 18 дней назад +3

      Gamers want real player and club names. Any games having fantasy clup and player names will fail.

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 18 дней назад +1

      @@hamzaadib9927 they do not.

    • @jonahfalcon1970
      @jonahfalcon1970 14 дней назад

      FIFA would also have to pay for advertising, distribution, and other costs EA was paying that had nothing to do with development.

    • @mexinerdentartaiment
      @mexinerdentartaiment 13 дней назад

      @@jonahfalcon1970 wouldn’t that be passed to it’s new publisher?

  • @hasifimran3091
    @hasifimran3091 20 дней назад +23

    FIFA and greed has been best friends for years, only now that it backfires them

  • @NanobanaKinako
    @NanobanaKinako 20 дней назад +91

    I rather play FIFA 14 than FC 24 and just download a mod to replace generic teams with licensed ones.

    • @Stelios78910
      @Stelios78910 20 дней назад

      hi Goldie Lemmon

    • @sregginetahi999
      @sregginetahi999 20 дней назад +2

      Why is that? Genuine question

    • @Greek316
      @Greek316 20 дней назад +3

      NOT FIFA 14! I ended up snapping the disc because of all the offsides it was giving! Could not pass forward without it being offside!

    • @bnosagaz
      @bnosagaz 20 дней назад

      @@sregginetahi999 The gameplay was really good in fifa 14, players have physics, animations are not broken. FC24 has the worst gameplay of the last 15 years of the fifa franchise.

    • @kenoobe23
      @kenoobe23 20 дней назад +4

      or we could just ask konami to make pes great again , even if we havent had the rights of the names . as the gameplay every season is better than fifa lul

  • @FantasistaRossonero
    @FantasistaRossonero 20 дней назад +12

    Pro Evo / winning eleven was the better game hands down. So good in the early days.

  • @leonsolace7
    @leonsolace7 20 дней назад +48

    All the people that hated on PES were just console owners. I played both growing up but PES was always the King (quite literally too). Only console players hated it due to licensing but if you had a PC, the PES community solved just about every issue with mods.

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 20 дней назад +11

      Where do you think most of the players were? Back in those days consoles were the easy, and less expensive way to get into games. So consoles had all the casuals. All the casuals cared for was that the people and teams looked like.

    • @hnaku8748
      @hnaku8748 20 дней назад +4

      I still play PES 3. For me it's not even about the licensing. I just love the physics of it. Also have PES 21 with mod, but often prefer playing 3 instead without any.

    • @uhobme2028
      @uhobme2028 20 дней назад +2

      Can't say i fully agree, but yeah, mainly stick with 21's mods these days

    • @Edgar...
      @Edgar... 20 дней назад +5

      And that's part of the reason that PES could never and will never be able to compete. The majority of football gamers are on console. It doesn't not matter if PC football gamers can just mod the missing teams when console gamers who make up the largest amount of buyers can't.

    • @Imran7jr
      @Imran7jr 20 дней назад +1

      PES is great I used to play before FIFA. But Pes lacks skill moves and the authenticity of fifa game was amazing with career mode with managing real clubs with real stadiums and all feels so great.

  • @Smilin_Chris
    @Smilin_Chris 20 дней назад +14

    "We need a level of freedom to be truly creative, innovative, and experiment in the market place." - The guy who manages the company who's known for repackaging the same games year after year with the only real innovations being new ways to turn a game into a pay to play scenario.

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie 9 дней назад

      To be fair… those games are fifa and madden… which they don’t actually own madden being the NFL and Fifa being fifa.
      So technically, his statement just pushes the blame to the license holders.
      For example Need for speed is definitely a different game every time… not that the game is good but it is different

    • @Smilin_Chris
      @Smilin_Chris 8 дней назад

      @@RusticRonnie They split from Fifa and pushed out FC24, which is repackaged Fifa 23..
      So.. yea.

  • @BojackTrunks
    @BojackTrunks 20 дней назад +78

    Tldr;
    Money.

    • @NIDELLANEUM
      @NIDELLANEUM 20 дней назад +1

      Yeah but that's the answer to anything in football, sometimes adding a little more feels better

  • @Adyman182
    @Adyman182 20 дней назад +148

    Would rather play FIFA 06 than any FIFA of the past 10 or so years....

    • @JimTheFly
      @JimTheFly 20 дней назад +12

      As it's gone on, the game's just gotten more annoying. I have 19 and 22 here and I got so annoyed at 22 that I just went back and started up a new career in '19 and I've been SO much happier with that.

    • @RahulSharma-wq4qy
      @RahulSharma-wq4qy 20 дней назад +6

      Fact. Fifa 08 my fav.

    • @user-zk4jd2lm4s
      @user-zk4jd2lm4s 20 дней назад +16

      Fifa 14 and 17 are hall of fame candidates too

    • @bagfaceman1656
      @bagfaceman1656 20 дней назад +12

      Personally, Pro Evolution Soccer 2016 is my go to football game.

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 20 дней назад +1

      I still play 7, 16 and 99. Most fun.

  • @cameronadams1242
    @cameronadams1242 19 дней назад +6

    Asking for the partnership deal to jump from 150mil to 1 billion is beyond insane🤣🤣
    Fifa banked on the world cup yet they were still greedy enough to ask for 1billion over the next four years just to use their name💀

    • @llane122
      @llane122 18 дней назад +1

      1 billion over 4 years is 250mil per year, 100mil increase. But still a huge increase with no benefit to EA.

  • @geriatricvicenarian8208
    @geriatricvicenarian8208 20 дней назад +6

    As long as they have licensing deals with the leagues and UEFA why would it matter to have FIFA in the name.

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 18 дней назад +1

      It’s nice to see someone who actually understands this.

  • @poolie7
    @poolie7 20 дней назад +7

    3:29 The only thing EA is creative and innovative about are Store packs in UT and the most expensive ones are close to $50 per ONE pack (which is basically the price of the base game on release in september)

    • @HerrCron
      @HerrCron 20 дней назад

      I know dumb gamer takes are vibrant cottage industry, but surely you're only pretending that you missed that it was the prolonged approval process with the rights holder that was the problem, right?

    • @poolie7
      @poolie7 20 дней назад

      @@HerrCron Nah I'm just talking about how EA is a dogshit company who treats their biggest and most loyal playerbase as an ATM machines

  • @007feck
    @007feck 18 дней назад +4

    This is what “calling your bluff” looks like at the highest stakes tables

  • @mickeyhynes
    @mickeyhynes 20 дней назад +3

    That first FIFA on the Mega Drive was immense. Stone cold classic.

  • @Omnipotentmonkey
    @Omnipotentmonkey 20 дней назад +4

    2K getting into football can only be a good thing,
    Since the gap widened on PES, EA Sports have been resting on their laurels more and more, the quality control of the last few games in particular, including EAFC24 have been nothing short of abysmal, with replicable, often game-breaking bugs and broken features that any semi-competent playtesting team would have ironed out on the first run, somehow persisting across multiple releases, particularly in the game's now severely neglected career modes.
    I'd go as far as to describe the EA Sports development team as the ONLY team in an industry defined by poor labour conditions and crunch cycles to be practically stealing their wages, because there's no real man hours going into these games anymore.
    the game's still selling because there's no real alternative for that football gaming fix
    either 2K provide a more competent alternative, or EA are forced to actually exert some effort again to stave off the erosion of their monopoly.

  • @ReizoM
    @ReizoM 19 дней назад +3

    As a novice game developer FIFA severely underestimated what it takes to make a video game

  • @Combatwombat-sn7ng
    @Combatwombat-sn7ng 18 дней назад +3

    Fifa messed up big time. They thought they were contributing to the game's success far more than they actually were and got shown up massively

  • @TheCybervoyeur
    @TheCybervoyeur 10 дней назад

    Love the animation in this video - keep up the good work

  • @elmasmiller4371
    @elmasmiller4371 20 дней назад +3

    i miss old pro evo...it was such a good game...cracked versions on a PS2 with modded team and playernames on a memory card...good times

    • @runi5413
      @runi5413 20 дней назад +2

      I actually thought the lack of an official license was part of the PES charm back then. Playing the Champions Cup final between Rekordmeister and West London Blue, with player-names like Cristiano 'Ronarid, Roberto Larcos, and Ruud vom Mistelroum ... Good times indeed.

  • @dubsguy7986
    @dubsguy7986 19 дней назад +4

    The fact they can make even EA look good says a lot about FIFA...

  • @MinhLe-kt5zg
    @MinhLe-kt5zg 20 дней назад +9

    How rare EA are actually the good guys for a change

  • @kevinarzola4781
    @kevinarzola4781 12 дней назад +2

    EA saying they need freedom to be creative and then releasing the same game since 2011 is hilarious lol

  • @berryquest7683
    @berryquest7683 16 дней назад

    @tifo im not sure if yall made a video on this yet, but ive notice a lot of teams struggling to find shirt sponsors. Definitely could do a vid on that

  • @gustavofring8765
    @gustavofring8765 20 дней назад +55

    FIFA game sucks, charging huge sums of money for same game every year

    • @khylelewis
      @khylelewis 20 дней назад +6

      Yeah they always rush out a new game year on year. If they spaced them out over 2-3 years the sales would take a hit but the experience would vastly improved. Maybe that's what the EA CEO meant by FIFA holding them back. Making them rush out titles, but then again, it's EA.

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 20 дней назад +5

      That's EAs doing.

    • @doctortech001
      @doctortech001 20 дней назад

      But they have to give licensing money every year to clubs, so everyone is greedy..

    • @snoopyguy21
      @snoopyguy21 20 дней назад

      @@doctortech001 and the clubs give that money to the players. The licensing fee from FIFA is separate from the money given to clubs and players.

    • @dunboy7874
      @dunboy7874 20 дней назад +1

      Not really, only idiots pay full price for fifa, i brought a key for £17 6 weeks after release, its the most discounted game every year, havent paid more £20 for fifa in years, you just have to wait a month or two after release

  • @mdrazzad
    @mdrazzad 20 дней назад +7

    The real life incarnation of a self serving narcissist couple splitting.
    TLDR, EA was swimming in FIFA money and FIFA said gimme more.

  • @Omanifootballenjoyer
    @Omanifootballenjoyer 19 дней назад +1

    4:49
    During the Asian cup in 2024, there was also an Asian cup eSport, it was played on efootball

  • @nmarcus7233
    @nmarcus7233 20 дней назад +3

    Thanks for highlighting the point that PES forced FIFA to step its gameplay up to what we know now. Early FIFA’s gameplay was… 😅

  • @calahoon22
    @calahoon22 20 дней назад +4

    In terms of Fifas own competition to EAs fifa it screams of cooperate types who have no clue how to set up a team for a game of that magnitude and thought it would be a straight forward process

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 20 дней назад

      I can picture some poor person at FIFA having to slowly walk Gianni Infantino and the others through the process of game development.

  • @PakluPapito
    @PakluPapito 20 дней назад +18

    Would love to play a 2K football game, EA needs some competition to keep it honest, they are the winners of a 1 horse race each year.

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 20 дней назад +8

      2K sports franchises are just as bad as EA's, same causes ( ie endless greed and complete disregard for anything that isn't immediate profit ) leads to the same consequences

    • @wearyolive76
      @wearyolive76 15 дней назад

      ​@@patanouketgersiflet9486true but that's mostly due to no competition.. when nba had competition from fifa there was atleast some improvement now its just more sweat.
      So comp from 2k would atleast cause an improvement at some front.. 2k career modes are fun too so theres that

    • @patanouketgersiflet9486
      @patanouketgersiflet9486 15 дней назад

      @@wearyolive76 NBA? competition from FIFA? 2 different sports, how's that competition?

  • @bigbadslimee
    @bigbadslimee 20 дней назад +4

    2K taking over FIFA and launching alongside the 2026 world cup in the US would be prefect. They know how to make sports games and the only company that could compete with EA

    • @uhobme2028
      @uhobme2028 20 дней назад

      Agree that '26 would be an opportunity but after their last few releases they would have to come out the gates very strong

  • @Wilanardodagenius
    @Wilanardodagenius 20 дней назад +3

    Interesting analysis

  • @jasperumoren-zo1fi
    @jasperumoren-zo1fi 20 дней назад +4

    The fact that fifa managed to let arguably their biggest cash cow go because theywhere unable to match EA's demands is almost humourus

  • @MowizosCrib
    @MowizosCrib 19 дней назад +2

    Imagine being so greedy that you fumble a free bag 😂. What’s funny is that now EA can use that money to secure more individual leagues/teams licenses

  • @FatihYeliz-tc2nc
    @FatihYeliz-tc2nc 5 дней назад

    Loving these daily missions on 4 RAB. They really up the excitement for the IPL matches, plus the rewards are top-notch!

  • @LucaGRizzi
    @LucaGRizzi 20 дней назад +3

    Any story that ends with "and Fifa lost a big chunk of money" is a good story.

  • @hnaku8748
    @hnaku8748 20 дней назад +5

    I still mostly play PES 3.

  • @d.optional3381
    @d.optional3381 20 дней назад

    Pro Evo 3 was an absolute revelation when i picked it up as a child for the first time after years of playing fifa.

  • @user-kf7tg1ro1d
    @user-kf7tg1ro1d 3 дня назад +1

    I think EA outsmarted FIFA because the deals are exclusive so if any other game actually wants to make a FIFA 24 they wouldn't have actual teams or players
    Also Its my opinion

  • @alve__7777
    @alve__7777 20 дней назад +5

    All this money yet they can't afford a better server better stable gameplay smh

  • @bens4602
    @bens4602 20 дней назад +3

    It sounds like it was EA’s decision more than FIFA’s.

  • @brawlstarsall-stars5256
    @brawlstarsall-stars5256 18 дней назад +2

    Why was this thumbnail so satisfying😂😂

  • @opsimathics
    @opsimathics 3 дня назад

    Winning Eleven was developed by Konami Tokyo in 94-95, whilst International Superstar Soccer had been developed years earlier by Konami Computer Entertainment Osaka. Every time WE is mentioned, there's a persistent myth that ISS somehow preceeded WE, when in fact they existed concurrently during the mid-90's.

  • @Xx_Deadeye_xX
    @Xx_Deadeye_xX 20 дней назад +6

    Hope FIFA comes back

  • @nitishsaxena1372
    @nitishsaxena1372 20 дней назад +3

    PES was definitely better until 2020. A realistic nuanced gameplay is always better than an arcade game with all the licenses.

  • @ILikedGooglePlus
    @ILikedGooglePlus 20 дней назад +2

    Today, I feel like a Video Game Developer

  • @ROADRUNNR-wc5ld
    @ROADRUNNR-wc5ld 20 дней назад +1

    FIFA didn't understand that the name FIFA isn't what was bringing people to the game. The game modes of Ultimate Team and Pro Clubs were always way bigger than the name on the cover

  • @seb2750
    @seb2750 20 дней назад +3

    Now I am waiting for Madden and NBA to get pissy at EA. What do you think those games will be renamed as when it happens?

    • @aceking_offsuit
      @aceking_offsuit 20 дней назад +6

      1. EA hasn't put out an NBA game since Live 19. 2K are the ones putting out NBA games now.
      2. Madden is a similar situation to FIFA in that the name isn't the main selling point; it's the license with the NFL. If the Madden estate asks for too much, I can easily see EA changing their name to NFL Ultimate Team 25 or whatever.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 20 дней назад +3

      ​@@aceking_offsuit I'm pretty sure EA bought the rights to use his name and likeness in perpetuity for a lump sum about a decade ago.

  • @adamgrice937
    @adamgrice937 20 дней назад +3

    Rare EA W

  • @TayfunSerkan
    @TayfunSerkan 5 дней назад

    The merch store is lit this year. Copped a t-shirt with just my winnings from last week's IPL bets on IPL Rewards

  • @0greeny0001
    @0greeny0001 20 дней назад +1

    The hubris of FIFA to think that they can create a game from nothing in a year is astonishing.

  • @Real_SkyRipper
    @Real_SkyRipper 20 дней назад +3

    this is so wrong to say EA Fifa won against PES because of realism lmao, that was not the reason, Konami just had inside issues and they didn't focus on PES, they even had that huge scandal with Kojima and even he left Konami, sad, PES was better and EA is evil.

  • @Alec_Reaper
    @Alec_Reaper 20 дней назад +11

    2K won't be able to compete with EA. Unless they make Fifa focused on gameplay and features, but not monitisation. 2K is just as bad if not worse than EA when it comes to this stuff, not to mention their NBA games are absolutely panned for being cash cows

    • @hnaku8748
      @hnaku8748 20 дней назад +1

      It ruined wrestling games for me.

    • @Edgar...
      @Edgar... 20 дней назад

      PES used to have better gameplay and physics than the old FIFAs did, but they still could never compete with EA's FIFA games because they couldn’t get the rights to players and clubs. It won't matter if 2K makes a superior game when EA holds the exclusive rights to many of the Top 5 football leagues.

  • @LJSCHSR
    @LJSCHSR 17 дней назад

    Can you Show ist how to make suh good animations?
    Bc I May wann start smth like this too

  • @Barry___
    @Barry___ 20 дней назад +2

    There is currently a company backed by CR7 and KDB who are making a competitor called UFL (Ultimate Football League) and have already made a deal with FIFpro for licencing player images. If the game comes out (after 2 years of delays) and is actually good, FIFA might just run over there instead of bothering with 2K.

    • @zidannemaulana1537
      @zidannemaulana1537 18 дней назад

      So UFL in Asia be like:
      Published by Capcom and compete against eFootball
      Imagine in North American release be like:
      UFL name changed into ULS which developee by Strikerz Inc. published by Square Enix

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 18 дней назад

      UFL don’t actually have many or any licenses though. It’s just a FUT clone.

  • @zidannemaulana1537
    @zidannemaulana1537 20 дней назад +5

    Imagine 2K sign deal with FIFA be like:
    2K have many franchises
    *MotoGP 2K (If Milestone acquired by Take Two from Embracer)
    *FIFA 2K
    *NBA 2K
    *Top Spin 2K
    *WWE 2K
    *PGA Tour 2K
    *Hot Wheels Unleashed (published by 2K and developed by Milestone)
    *Monster Jam (published by 2K developed by Milestone)
    Imagine MotoGP vs F1 games which between Milestone vs Codemasters and 2K vs EA and also Take Two acquire Milestone will be the best acquisition ever made.

    • @zidannemaulana1537
      @zidannemaulana1537 20 дней назад +1

      I can Imagine 2K vs EA be like
      FIFA 2K vs EA FC
      MotoGP 2K vs EA F1
      Even makes Milestone acquired by Take Two Interactive is absolute crazy after acquiring Gearbox Software which another company which become Embracer hit list from Take Two

  • @ditik2795
    @ditik2795 20 дней назад +3

    Isn't this the 2nd vid on the topic?

  • @prysrek8858
    @prysrek8858 19 дней назад +2

    I swear, only FIFA would be able to make us be sympathetic towards EA

  • @dillondavis-tirado7181
    @dillondavis-tirado7181 20 дней назад +1

    You left out the fact the gameplay is utterly unplayable unless you’re a football fan

  • @ArshavinCisse
    @ArshavinCisse 20 дней назад +11

    In all honesty, many of the things that FIFA does is to get financial gain. That should stop. Otherwise, people will watch other sports.

  • @fresh_jme
    @fresh_jme 20 дней назад +4

    FC24 Wasn’t good imo, I’ll probably be playing FIFA 2K next year

  • @Reallysl1
    @Reallysl1 18 дней назад +1

    The success of the game is because of the previous years and growth not because EA FC 24 is a good product if they want to retain their audience thry have to fix so many issues with this game

  • @Mhit-nb4ng
    @Mhit-nb4ng 19 дней назад

    I liked gameplay of pes and graphics of fifa hope in future we will able to see a game with both qualities

  • @giodhuha6771
    @giodhuha6771 20 дней назад +11

    Hope FIFA joins forces with Konami.

    • @nifemi_o
      @nifemi_o 20 дней назад +4

      How will Konami manage to pay what FIFA was asking?

    • @krandlez
      @krandlez 20 дней назад +2

      Nah, Konami better off not dealing with the grubs at fifa

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 20 дней назад

      Konami and FIFA would need a revenue or profit split deal, I imagine. Even them FIFA will still want too much money and control. FIFA's demands were greater than the value they brought to EA's series, I can't imagine they will lower them too much for the next developer.
      Either way the biggest problem will be the licensing of players, clubs and leagues. EA FC sales show people don't care about the FIFA name.

    • @GORILLA_RAMESH
      @GORILLA_RAMESH 20 дней назад

      Konami is making some good money recently but it's not enough to buy a 150 million a year license 🤣. They not even makes more money than pubg and pubg died 3 years ago 😂.

    • @Edgar...
      @Edgar... 20 дней назад

      PES used to have better gameplay and physics than the old FIFAs did, but they could never compete because they couldn’t get the rights to players and clubs. Now that EA has the exclusive rights to the Prem, LaLiga, Bundesliga, PSG, Juve and other smaller leagues.
      How are FIFA and Konami going to compete if they can't even get 3 of the top 5 leagues and many others in their game when the game console crowd isn't able to just mod them in and are the biggest buyers of football games?

  • @rezarfar
    @rezarfar 20 дней назад +1

    Well, it really didn't matter. The franchises best days were behind them long before this ever happened, especially in terms of the actual quality of the games.
    The best FIFA games were FIFA 13 and 14, in fact in the last 10 years since FIFA 14, only one other FIFA game cracks the top 10 and thats FIFA 17 in 8th place on the list.
    So in the last 10 years, only 1 FIFA game has actually managed to break the FIFA top 10 games list. Fairly certain that eventually, the relationship would have ended one way or another.

  • @KonuralpUlku
    @KonuralpUlku 5 дней назад

    Betting on Kolkata today on 4 RAB, those points are just piling up! Planning to snag that new iPhone

  • @106.
    @106. 19 дней назад +2

    EA having competition might make them refocus on gamplay

  • @System_Sega
    @System_Sega 19 дней назад

    1:31 Not sure why your showing a SNES controller for a game that started out on the Mega Drive.

  • @crayzee1372
    @crayzee1372 20 дней назад +1

    Fifa scored an own goal. The console game helped growth of Football and Fifa brand in the US and far East

  • @djnickbennett
    @djnickbennett 18 дней назад +1

    No mention of lack of innovation in every EA game basically scamming consumers with new skins.

  • @philipbeattie4101
    @philipbeattie4101 5 дней назад

    I was always a PES fan back in the day. The licensing is always good with EA, but if 2K get involved I think I’ll definitely be checking it out.
    the NBA games are great.

  • @schnitzelsemmel
    @schnitzelsemmel 2 дня назад

    The UEFA in particular seems to be occupying an interesting spot in this dispute - for many years, PES was a commercial partner for them, countering the FIFA-EA-Dominance, but as soon as FIFA and EA broke up the UFEA was willing to license everything to EA to stick it to FIFA

  • @PanteraRossa
    @PanteraRossa 20 дней назад +2

    Barcelona is trying to pull a similar stunt with Nike. Let's see how that blows up in their face too.

    • @semicolonenthusiast1354
      @semicolonenthusiast1354 20 дней назад

      That though is less of a gamble--different branded shirt and shoes is a lot easier to make than a video game franchise.

    • @PanteraRossa
      @PanteraRossa 20 дней назад

      @@semicolonenthusiast1354 Thinking you can outdo Nike and their retail network built over 5 decades overnight? And you're doing that with borrowed future earnings and billions in debt?? Good luck

  • @dingypt
    @dingypt 16 дней назад

    I played FIFA 99, 01, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 12, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19 and 20... I honestly see no evolution since FIFA 15 or 16 and by FIFA20 i just decided I will not play another EA Football Game unless they ACTUALLY change something other than graphics or more lootboxing gameplay with more ingame purchases.
    I love the football genre and Football Manager completely delivers for me, but sometimes i dont want to play as a manager. And unfortunately it seems there is no good game to play "as a player"

  • @beyondmadmax352
    @beyondmadmax352 20 дней назад

    1:43 did he say the game had been “yapping” 😂😂

  • @Draigthedragon
    @Draigthedragon 20 дней назад

    The whole Championship Manager/ Football Manager episode showed that it's vital to know where the value is. In that case it was the scouting network and the database, EA are hoping the FIFA name and licences aren't as vital as the game engine and fanbase. I suspect they're right.

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 18 дней назад

      EA retained all the licenses though besides the World Cup.

  • @VolkanAyse-bm7du
    @VolkanAyse-bm7du 5 дней назад

    Just got into 4ra’s IPL Rewards and it’s a game-changer, literally spinning the Loyalty Wheel as we speak, hoping for that big win!

  • @cheeselol268
    @cheeselol268 16 дней назад

    Could probably also mean the end of the FIFA world cup game serie. From 1998 fifa world cup video game to 2022 fifa world cup video game

  • @afc4life_uk
    @afc4life_uk 18 дней назад

    Glad you mentioned Pro Evo, that was THE game when I was growing up. It's a shame EA bullied Konami out of the running as Pro Evo was a masterpiece and by far the better game. It would have been good to see both companies push each other to have better and better gameplay and standards instead of EA basically cutting Konami at the knees.

  • @Dragonaut111
    @Dragonaut111 13 дней назад

    FiFA and EA arguing about who is more greedy might be the ultimate height of irony.