R O U N D 6 | Alien Stage

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @VIVINOS
    @VIVINOS  8 месяцев назад +14168

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    • @Pixeldust5
      @Pixeldust5 8 месяцев назад +932

      APOLOGIES…..

    • @cyntheziser
      @cyntheziser 8 месяцев назад +1038

      THIS IS SO FOUL

    • @sanmenela
      @sanmenela 8 месяцев назад +702

      YOU.

    • @foxibirdsdumps
      @foxibirdsdumps 8 месяцев назад +831

      vivinos... im gonna catch you...

    • @tordfi
      @tordfi 8 месяцев назад +568

      APOLOGIZE NOW

  • @graegrape
    @graegrape 8 месяцев назад +5729

    I love how much Alien Stage reflects a lot of cheesy TV tropes like the love... circle? Triangle? Where everyone likes everyone but never back thing. But instead of playing it for a joke or something silly, it's written in a way that breaks your heart into a million pieces because the contestants' love is the one thing they got to choose for themselves.

    • @ur1c3hu33
      @ur1c3hu33 8 месяцев назад +138

      OOF that last bit hit me HARD

    • @Ms.Matcha-u2y
      @Ms.Matcha-u2y 8 месяцев назад

      I literally hate you (this was great thank you for commenting this)

    • @nanny_uhh
      @nanny_uhh 8 месяцев назад +119

      the last part hit hard, and you are right, ALL of it is not their choice, their clothing, how they are shown to their fans, their music (only Till got to sing a song he created alone)

    • @pigeontoes5421
      @pigeontoes5421 8 месяцев назад +114

      More like a love line LOL, Mizisua was mutual but sua is dead, till loves mitzi unrequited, ivan loves till unrequited, and nobody loves Ivan....

    • @graegrape
      @graegrape 8 месяцев назад +60

      ​@@pigeontoes5421YEAH. Pretty much - Don't forget the additional Luka-Hyuna one-sided pining.
      (noone loves ivan? the fanbase begs to differ/j)

  • @VTEK_ENTERTAIN
    @VTEK_ENTERTAIN 8 месяцев назад +33269

    I think what sickens me the most about this is that Ivan didn't even look happy when he was kissing Till, and he died smiling because Till finally acknowledged him

    • @SalomSands
      @SalomSands 8 месяцев назад +4546

      a kiss full of sorrow almost.

    • @lindianocean
      @lindianocean 8 месяцев назад +3249

      @@SalomSands black sorrow 😭

    • @neo-gu5wf
      @neo-gu5wf 8 месяцев назад +852

      IM FKCING CRYING WAIT

    • @bevq2246
      @bevq2246 8 месяцев назад +1838

      I thought he smiled because he knew for sure he was gonna die at that point and till would be saved, he looked panicked a moment before when he saw till was unresponsive

    • @dinorex4105
      @dinorex4105 8 месяцев назад +17

      .

  • @Shadow_Moon007
    @Shadow_Moon007 8 месяцев назад +28019

    Ivan sacrificed everything, even himself, for Till.
    The fact that Ivan is dressed in white (like Sua) like he's a corpse while Till is dressed in black (like Mizi) like he's going to a funeral is heartbreaking.

    • @aikuma_qiuji_anx3341
      @aikuma_qiuji_anx3341 8 месяцев назад +955

      and black hair... Sua and Ivan have black hair lmao
      (im crying of their death)

    • @employer_kaveh
      @employer_kaveh 8 месяцев назад +368

      i just realized that in the first round it's also the same, the one who wear white dies, and the one who wear black live but with grieve and regrets probably

    • @lyingndying
      @lyingndying 8 месяцев назад +282

      How does it feel to be an Orv fan and ALNST fan at the same time?

    • @soloyoxdnop565
      @soloyoxdnop565 8 месяцев назад +129

      ​@@lyingndyinges horrible , ser fan del ivantill, satosugu, joongdok (ayudaa)

    • @Shadow_Moon007
      @Shadow_Moon007 8 месяцев назад +75

      @@lyingndying The world is cruel

  • @Stellaris_Stellaria
    @Stellaris_Stellaria 18 дней назад +333

    One thing I noticed the very first time I watched this, was that the sound of heartbeat before Till begun to sing, was accelerating rapidly, symbolizing Till's unstable emotions after Mizi's disappearance and after everything he went through in Alien Stage. But when it was Ivan's turn to sing, the heartbeat was steady and calm, as if showing Ivan's firm resolve towards Till, consistent and not waning, showing that Ivan knows what he has to do. And he is confident to sacrifice himself, if it means Till, the 'object of his shallow emotions', can live. Because just like Mizi who makes Till's life meaningful, Till is the one who makes Ivan's life meaningful in the Alien Stage. Death and anything else means nothing to Ivan if it means that 'rebellious boy' he loves could go to the next round.

    • @sxmii_dr
      @sxmii_dr 2 дня назад +1

      Ok now im crying

  • @clairecook6499
    @clairecook6499 8 месяцев назад +14872

    What’s so heartbreaking about Ivan strangling Till to save him, is the symbol of Ivan taking off Till’s collar that has shown up so many times throughout the series. In their backstory, we see Ivan taking off Till’s restraints on multiple occasions, especially the collar over his mouth. He does it back in Ankat Garden when they make their escape attempt, and he’s shown doing it in the flashback in this episode as well. While the aliens want to stifle Till’s chaotic and rebellious nature, Ivan loves that part about Till, and he wants to free him from his bindings, no matter how loud and violent he can sometimes be. But, when Mitzi disappeared, Till lost his rebellious spirit. As he sings during this round he looks defeated, hopeless, with no fight left to give. Ivan can’t stand for that. He has to help Till get his spirit back, no matter the cost. By Ivan’s final act being strangling Till, what he’s really doing is taking of his collar. He reaches for Till’s neck, for the hundredth time, for the last time, intent, as always, to free Till from the aliens. And when his hands fall away, Till is free -free from the fate that awaited him, and maybe, just maybe, with Ivan’s death, Till can regain his rebellious spirit again.

    • @ScaraLoreRambler
      @ScaraLoreRambler 8 месяцев назад +525

      Stop, you’re gonna make me cry

    • @sxdnnezz-3390
      @sxdnnezz-3390 8 месяцев назад +209

      stop.

    • @Der-Erste-Stern
      @Der-Erste-Stern 8 месяцев назад +461

      I hadn't thought of the parallel between choking and he being constantly the one to remove Till's collar and muzzle.
      Thank you for the renewed pain, I'll got to sleep crying again

    • @suzuyahaise401
      @suzuyahaise401 8 месяцев назад +89

      I LOVE THIS OBSERVATION SM ARGGG

    • @Marumer0
      @Marumer0 8 месяцев назад +105

      But why did Ivan have to die? I hope Till loved Ivan a little bit. I think Ivan was loved by the aliens and that's why he could be saved. If that happens, I hope they will be together.

  • @shaythemoonchild431
    @shaythemoonchild431 8 месяцев назад +23035

    The tragic thing for me was seeing how far Ivan has gone to keep Till safe. He literally disguised himself as a security guard to get Till out of that bar. I can only imagine the other things he’s done. I believe that’s the whole reason why he became the fan favorite. He knew being loved by the aliens would give him more freedom to protect and keep Till alive. As the favorite, he had to go through horrifying things but it was all worth it if it meant Till was still there. Truly, Ivan is the best character for me.

    • @prnc96
      @prnc96 8 месяцев назад +343

      THIS

    • @nadachan184
      @nadachan184 8 месяцев назад +785

      YEAH! Ivan already done so many for Till, just showing how much he loves him 😭 It's break my heart that Till finally look at him in the last moment of his life :')))

    • @astrelz6177
      @astrelz6177 8 месяцев назад

      Till is the Mizi to his Till

    • @mochiii6291
      @mochiii6291 8 месяцев назад +83

      FR I LOVE HIM SM

    • @hiyonono
      @hiyonono 8 месяцев назад +379

      disguised at the bar? i think it was an afterparty and ivan was just there with his own guardian like till was.

  • @purpleaether
    @purpleaether 8 месяцев назад +32839

    so i've been rewatching the rounds and i realized something. in round 5 when mizi starts beating the shit out of luka, the guards come and pull her off of him, wrangle her away, and only after all that just START to point a gun at her head. but because of all that, the resistance had time to come in and save her.
    so when ivan started doing the same thing, they began shooting him down immediately. because if they didn't, it would give the resistance time to come in and save him, and they don't want that to happen again.
    that's why none of the guards approached. they would rather kill him quickly than give opportunity for saving 😭

    • @Krill_Phil
      @Krill_Phil 8 месяцев назад +2333

      I just noticed this too. A really neat but really sad detail...

    • @chwrleseyler
      @chwrleseyler 8 месяцев назад +821

      no😭😭 i already cried but this... just hurts man

    • @miumiuwony
      @miumiuwony 8 месяцев назад +1067

      it can also be that luka is more well liked than till, and they were ok with till getting roughed up

    • @Keijikink
      @Keijikink 8 месяцев назад +187

      Thank you I am now going to cry myself to sleep /j

    • @shumikass
      @shumikass 8 месяцев назад +199

      I don't think so, in round 1 they kill Sua Instantly. Maybe last time was just a lucky big mistake

  • @Its_Naomi01
    @Its_Naomi01 Месяц назад +789

    Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. Ivan's alive. I WATCHED THIS FOR LIKE THE 30TH TIME IM CRYING HELP

  • @aracel9730
    @aracel9730 8 месяцев назад +42208

    Ivan basically said: “you can live without me, but I can’t live without you” 😭

  • @raaaaaaaaah1112
    @raaaaaaaaah1112 8 месяцев назад +4680

    When you realise the shine in Ivan's eyes was gone when he was choking and kissing Till, but it came back when he saw Till's score go up and at the end when he knew that Till was gonna live and go to the next round

  • @bambe.e
    @bambe.e 8 месяцев назад +23219

    Everyones saying that Till is singing like he's given up but like can we talk about how Ivan sings?
    He's confident and determined because he knows what he has to do😭

    • @akinmedarda
      @akinmedarda 8 месяцев назад +1363

      And the fact he was winning too.. Gosh

    • @lemon.n
      @lemon.n 8 месяцев назад +59

      ​@@akinmedarda😭😭

    • @knightnight6533
      @knightnight6533 8 месяцев назад +336

      NO CAUSE IT MADE ME FEEL SO LIKE STRESS OUT LIKE WHEN I HEARD TILL SING THE FIRST TIME

    • @knightnight6533
      @knightnight6533 8 месяцев назад +519

      Like this was a major jump from his original song, disobeying in like every conceivable manner like he sang the whole part without letting the other guy sing, he killed the guitar alien all with a smirk and passion on his face. He sang with more passion and intensity in his voice and the majority was in English (I don’t think that’s really apart of it I just find it neat). However now he’s quite the opposite. He is singing like how Alien stage is intended to be sung, the genre and tone of the song is completely different than the previous song. While his voice is still really good it lacks the same spark the original song has since it was a huge shift. I know a lot of people point out how Till dresses like if he was going to a funeral and Ivan to wedding.
      But I also want to point out how different their wardrobes are from the original songs.
      In Round 2 till was wearing a white loose t-shirt with [not too] loose pants. He also had no shoes which again I feel was meant to show his rebellious nature. Again his current appearance is the opposite a tucked in? (Could be wrong) black shirt that is now missing any design that the last one had. As well as the tight black pants, it’s more form-fitting like he has decided to con”form” with alien stage ever since mizi disappeared. While it’s obvious that he lost his spark and is going through grief and depression because of it the I like how the a simple black outfit can reflect that.
      Now on to Ivan’s outfit. The most clear difference between his previous and current outfit is the color, from black to white. However there is more about his outfit is that it was constricted I am unsure on what exactly it is (belt?) however now In round 6 those restrictions are no longer seen on him. His current outfit is (recycling the same thing i said about till) except Ivan’s outfit is less form fitting, looser reflecting that he no has anything else to hide because he already knows he will die (he definitely had this planned out) it’s much asymmetrical and has more flow in comparison to his previous outfit.
      I absolutely adore how Vivinos designs the characters and their outfits to reflect the state they’re in.

    • @Nomnomla
      @Nomnomla 8 месяцев назад +97

      The pain to realize that ivan sacrifice himself for till so he can live happily bro i cant stop sobbing 😭🙏🏽

  • @zeroo8124
    @zeroo8124 Месяц назад +420

    I had no clue about what Alien Stage was and just binged watched it.
    Why am I crying and HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SLEEP NOW?!

    • @nonafie
      @nonafie Месяц назад +13

      real, binge watched the whole series in one night, now i need therapy😭

    • @Oktopus549
      @Oktopus549 16 дней назад +2

      Same

    • @fishcakess9
      @fishcakess9 10 дней назад +2

      What order do u watch it in and where I'm confused
      ​@@nonafie

    • @aloureluxe4174
      @aloureluxe4174 10 дней назад

      The series has been waiting for me in my tabs for months now..... 💀💀💀I cried

  • @Adsentas
    @Adsentas 8 месяцев назад +60907

    Notice how Till's neck doesn't even have marks of choking? That means Ivan was just holding his hands on his neck, not even trying to hurt him... God, I'm crying...

    • @o_o.b
      @o_o.b 8 месяцев назад +974

      와....😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @rat_5219
      @rat_5219 8 месяцев назад +9120

      So does that mean that Ivan was faking the whole choking part so he would be disqualified?

    • @Orange_Tanger
      @Orange_Tanger 8 месяцев назад +3342

      @@rat_5219 yes 😭

    • @-jay-sam-
      @-jay-sam- 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah​@@rat_5219

    • @Xytching
      @Xytching 8 месяцев назад +1606

      OMGGG TYSM NOW THE TEARS JUST WONT STOPP 😭😭😭😭

  • @Kiki-qd4sw
    @Kiki-qd4sw 8 месяцев назад +26299

    I think one of the saddest things about this is how when we see Till’s pov Ivan is never in it, but when we see Ivan’s pov Till is EVERYWHERE. Every other person or face is not important like Till is to Ivan, meanwhilr Till doesn’t even SEE Ivan. And he knew, he knew his love wasn’t reciprocated, it’s so clear in his lyrics too 😭😭 I feel like Ivan knew he was going to die the second he turned back to go with Til…. ((I JUST REALIZED THE FIRSY TIME HE ‘SEES’ IVAN IS AFTER HIS NECK IS LET GO AND IVAN LOOKS SO HAPPY RAHHH IM NOT OK))

    • @chuuwuyal2272
      @chuuwuyal2272 8 месяцев назад +1452

      THIS. UNTIL THE END TILL ONLY SEES MIZI. I'm devastated

    • @Kiki-qd4sw
      @Kiki-qd4sw 8 месяцев назад +649

      @@chuuwuyal2272we are so not ok lets all hold hands in alien stage heaven

    • @orca3432
      @orca3432 8 месяцев назад +66

      WAHHHHH

    • @pulped69dago91
      @pulped69dago91 8 месяцев назад +514

      he finally saw him but it's too late rip

    • @aizeace
      @aizeace 8 месяцев назад +177

      @@pulped69dago91STOP DONT SAY THIS MY HEART😭😭😭

  • @paen8547
    @paen8547 8 месяцев назад +15333

    I just noticed this but-
    During his first song Till sang a determined love song, while Ivan sang a sorrowful song. Now Ivan is singing a determined love song, while Till is singing a sorrowful song.

    • @shino_shuiro
      @shino_shuiro 8 месяцев назад +283

      STOPPP 😭😭🙏

    • @bananajam6393
      @bananajam6393 8 месяцев назад +191

      OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @boulboul4354
      @boulboul4354 8 месяцев назад +94

      GURLL WHYYY IM SOBBINNGGGG

    • @riaawr
      @riaawr 8 месяцев назад +37

      BYEEE 😭😭

    • @itzrachei
      @itzrachei 8 месяцев назад +10

      😭

  • @c.asicetea3119
    @c.asicetea3119 18 дней назад +197

    Love the detail at 4:01 where the rain kind of sound like clapping from the crowd.

    • @eduardamelo-qg4pe
      @eduardamelo-qg4pe 10 дней назад

      YESS

    • @KoiAkane
      @KoiAkane 10 дней назад +6

      It reminds me of Suguru while he was carrying Riko and after while he was taking a shower, the cult follower’s claps turning into rain and the rain turning back into those same claps 😭😭😭

  • @rosen_venus
    @rosen_venus 8 месяцев назад +17212

    There's something truly sad about how Till tries to push Ivan away when he kisses him, but just goes limp when Ivan starts choking him. For a character that's always seen fighting back, when his best friend seemingly tried to kill him, he just accepted it. I think Till went into this competition with the expectation that he would lose, maybe even hoping he would lose since now the only thing that made life worth it to him (Mizi) was gone. Then, his realization of what Ivan did, the fact that Ivan must've felt for him what he felt towards Mizi - that Till dying would've made life pointless for Ivan...

    • @sofiagutierrez7989
      @sofiagutierrez7989 8 месяцев назад +324

      El sol no necesita de la luna para brillar. Sua e Ivan no podrian reponerse de la perdida de sus amigos

    • @金獨子
      @金獨子 8 месяцев назад +10

      STOPPP IM GONNA BITE U 😭😭

    • @totoro413
      @totoro413 8 месяцев назад +758

      Im wondering if luca will try to provoke till the same way he provoked mizi, since he sees this as a way to secure victory. And i wanna see how till would react to that

    • @Editor_zephyr
      @Editor_zephyr 8 месяцев назад +418

      @@totoro413 Fr, since Till is not in a good mental state the way Mizi was when the competition. I can only hope Hyuna will save Till too.

    • @eltipo4695
      @eltipo4695 8 месяцев назад +222

      ​@@totoro413i don't (fully) think Luka would do that, especially since he seems to be kinda tired of winning. There could even be a chance of him working with the rebellion because of how he acted when he noticed Hyuna helping Mizi on Round 5

  • @nomuntemuul2808
    @nomuntemuul2808 8 месяцев назад +33021

    Idk if this detail was intentional, but Ivan looks like a groom getting married, and Till looks like he's going to a funeral. Maybe the same could be extended to Mizi and Sua.

    • @_mycherie
      @_mycherie 8 месяцев назад +1176

      THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

    • @animeismylife6823
      @animeismylife6823 8 месяцев назад +855

      THE HELL I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT AT FIRST

    • @graychuchu
      @graychuchu 8 месяцев назад +313

      OH MY GOD

    • @leenaa.
      @leenaa. 8 месяцев назад +673

      ITS MIZISUA ALL OVER AGAIJ

    • @RVUI
      @RVUI 8 месяцев назад +222

      HOLY?? GOOD OBSERVATION THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT ONE OUT

  • @apclypse
    @apclypse 8 месяцев назад +10424

    The fact that Ivan only smiles at the end once he knows Till is safe 😭 He doesn’t smile while kissing the person he loves but only after he’s sure Till would live 🥹 I am not okay

    • @foregroundeclipse8725
      @foregroundeclipse8725 8 месяцев назад +51

      Can I tell you about my Oc for Alien Stage? This idea, kinda has been done before. Especially with the original Macross Anime. But hear me out though . What if the male character I'm making who loves Ivan back , is half Alien and half human . But he was exiled from society . I know this is a mess but it's a draft idea so far . We haven't seen half human, half alien characters in Alien Stage. And I think it would be interesting. I haven't decided how Ivan and my Oc will meet yet. But I want Ivan to have a guy who loves him too. I think Ivan will teach my Oc what it means to be human . I was a bit inspired by the original Macross Anime and it's movie Do You Remember Love? And Gunslinger Girl / Violet Evergarden for making my Oc. I named him Noah . What do you think? 👀

    • @foregroundeclipse8725
      @foregroundeclipse8725 8 месяцев назад +38

      Also I'm very much coping right now so forgive me of my crazy ideas. I really hope Ivan is alive.

    • @ys-zw1vv
      @ys-zw1vv 8 месяцев назад +36

      이 해석도 진짜 좋다… 마지막에 웃는게 사랑하는 사람이 살아있을거라고 확신을 가질 수 있어서였구나 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

    • @sofiassalas3759
      @sofiassalas3759 8 месяцев назад +11

      No lo ví de esa forma, ahora procederé a llorar más 🥲

    • @dinorex4105
      @dinorex4105 8 месяцев назад +1

      .

  • @coldyofficial1135
    @coldyofficial1135 9 дней назад +45

    this is the only alien stage round that actually made me cry. i’ve analyzed it so many times because it just hurts watching it and i know that’s what makes it so good

  • @HeavenBarnhard
    @HeavenBarnhard 7 месяцев назад +13422

    Love how the first couple of kisses Ivan gives to till are aggressive and the last one is a sweet little kiss.

    • @Meowzers_3
      @Meowzers_3 6 месяцев назад +1888

      I think it’s to make the guards think that he’s being super aggressive to be sacrificed and the last little kiss is like a confession and goodbye at the same time🤷‍♂️

    • @kokor7804
      @kokor7804 6 месяцев назад

      @@Meowzers_3DAAAAAMN.

    • @Mentalyanna
      @Mentalyanna 5 месяцев назад +231

      @@Meowzers_3ain’t no way stop making me cry rn

    • @Biologicaly_reo
      @Biologicaly_reo 5 месяцев назад +88

      SHUT UP UR MAKING ME CRYY

    • @Beautifully_Horny
      @Beautifully_Horny 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Meowzers_3 STOOOP I DON'T WANNA CRY BRO

  • @Kikopoke
    @Kikopoke 8 месяцев назад +7389

    It's the "you wont realize how much they truly loved you til it's too late" trope that breaks me :( PLEASE LET HIM MIRACULOUSLY BE ALIVE BRUH I CANT TAKE IT

    • @tellmewhy7733
      @tellmewhy7733 8 месяцев назад +564

      Notice how Ivan's body is shown we might still have hope. Sua's body wasn't shown in her and Mizi's round, so she's dead asf (let me cope i am coping im nkt entirely really sure if ivan will miraculously come out from his grave, BUT LET ME COPE)

    • @TinTeaKettle
      @TinTeaKettle 8 месяцев назад +298

      Being delulu is sometimes not the solulu guys 😭

    • @l3unnyo
      @l3unnyo 8 месяцев назад +63

      ONG I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE WHY SO SAD😭🙏

    • @katsune1830
      @katsune1830 8 месяцев назад +151

      "you wont realized how they truly loved you,Till its too late."

    • @yukilovescakes
      @yukilovescakes 8 месяцев назад +95

      It would be such a waste if a good character were killed off just like that. There's still a chance that he'll live; just trust 😭

  • @Echoetic
    @Echoetic 8 месяцев назад +9693

    I could write a whole essay about how beautiful and morbid “TILL WIN” being reflected in Ivan’s blood is.

    • @anotherstranger1273
      @anotherstranger1273 8 месяцев назад +769

      theres a lyric in Black Sorrow about a pool of blood IM CRYING THE FORSHADOWING

    • @Echoetic
      @Echoetic 8 месяцев назад +187

      @@anotherstranger1273 OMG I saw that too, this series is gonna be the death of me ;-;

    • @NevaRthelesser
      @NevaRthelesser 8 месяцев назад +63

      MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS MORBID???

    • @Frosterabyte
      @Frosterabyte 8 месяцев назад +49

      I want this on my desk first thing tomorrow morning

    • @lalaloveshiluu
      @lalaloveshiluu 8 месяцев назад +42

      @anotherstranger1273 Also Everytime the lyrics "end of this story" appear it all shows Till in the scene and in both of those times that line appeared, the line that comes next fits well with Ivans "death"

  • @운좋은비버
    @운좋은비버 25 дней назад +239

    2:05 여기서 틸이 왤케 화를 내나 했더니 미지 화관 만들어 주려 했던걸 이반이 일부러 밟아서 그런거구나 이반은 틸이 미지에게 화관을 선물해주는게 싫어서 일부러 밟은거고..

  • @amber_eys3015
    @amber_eys3015 8 месяцев назад +18569

    Something that i realised is how Till says "Let me drown in you" (0:51) to Mizi because he loves and adore Mizi, but she isn't interested in him which makes him crave that love from her even more. He wants to drown in her love but he cant because her love wasnt meant for him, it was meant for Sua. Ivan on the other hand says "I'll drown in you" (2:20) indicating that he can and WILL drown in his love for Till. "Drowning" in this case implies that he'll lose himself the deeper he goes. So this means he'll willingly love Till, even if it means he will lose himself in the process.

    • @tarpey3232
      @tarpey3232 8 месяцев назад +661

      OH YOU ARE VILE FOR POINTING THIS OUT. IM NEVER GONNA KNOW PEACEFUL REST EVER AGAIN AFTER THIS. (/pos thank u for giving me another thing to think about at night)

    • @aliceofclover
      @aliceofclover 8 месяцев назад +691

      Fun fact! (It's not a fun fact I'm on the brink of tears) The Korean word used in "drown" when translated literally can also mean to dye, to color, to infect, or to *taint.* Till's literally singing "Let me be tainted by you," and Ivan's literally singing "Let me taint you,"

    • @shina3425
      @shina3425 8 месяцев назад +151

      PELASE STOP IM ALREADY HEART BROKEN AFTER READING OTHER COMMENTS WHY MUST THIS ONE MAKE EM CRY AGAIN

    • @dinorex4105
      @dinorex4105 8 месяцев назад +12

      .

    • @averiefrncsca
      @averiefrncsca 8 месяцев назад

      SHUT THE HELL UPP

  • @MomoMMDs
    @MomoMMDs 8 месяцев назад +39997

    Vivinos really said "Your favorite ship gets to kiss, but its the most unsatisfying and uncomfortable one-sided kiss ever and it only happens because one of them wants go out with no regrets."

    • @아잉이잉오잉
      @아잉이잉오잉 8 месяцев назад +631

      😭

    • @The_miIk
      @The_miIk 8 месяцев назад +2315

      Fr. The way the my mouth DROPPED

    • @---ro1fc
      @---ro1fc 8 месяцев назад +1820

      She’s out to get us for real, lmao. Killing everyone for fun and ruining the silver linings 😩

    • @ilovejinhsimywife
      @ilovejinhsimywife 8 месяцев назад +441

      SOBBING RIGHT NOW😭😭😭

    • @erihtea0719
      @erihtea0719 8 месяцев назад +374

      @JohnThefarmer-ig8um ⁠Listening to a bot won’t bring Ivan back 😭

  • @Shadow-si2sk
    @Shadow-si2sk 8 месяцев назад +6287

    the fact that in the first round Mizi wore a black dress and Sua a white dress and in the sixth round Till wears a black outfit and Ivan wears a white outfit represents that, Ivan and Sua died in peace for the person they loved while Till and Mizi they will mourn their sacrifice...

    • @nobody0670
      @nobody0670 7 месяцев назад +168

      STAWP😭😭😭 MY HEART CANT ANYMORE. WHY DID I HAVE TO SEE THIS 😭😭

    • @Meedens
      @Meedens 7 месяцев назад +60

      ACTUALLY ABOUT TO BREAK DOWN IN TEARS. AGAIN.

    • @leahblevinokimba2120
      @leahblevinokimba2120 7 месяцев назад +38

      Why am I still scrolling through these comments 😭

    • @SomethinPeachyPeach
      @SomethinPeachyPeach 7 месяцев назад +15

      WHAT A GOOD FUCKING READDDDD WOW THATS WILD🤯🤯🤯🤯

    • @shinyy_mineyy
      @shinyy_mineyy 7 месяцев назад

      IT'S ALWAYS THE FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE PAIRS 😭😭😭

  • @Gaylanwangji
    @Gaylanwangji Месяц назад +74

    ''Please notice my pain and mend me right now.'' He didn't even know that Till loved him 70%. He viewed him as a close friend like, family

  • @BellUH-1
    @BellUH-1 8 месяцев назад +8663

    Ivan is the true Gigachad of the story, he got what he wanted (made Till aware of his feelings) and sacrificed himself in order to protect who he loved, his black sorrow.

    • @mizisuamyuniverse
      @mizisuamyuniverse 8 месяцев назад +536

      feeling kinda a little too dead inside atm after watching but ngl this comment made me actually chuckle & feel a bit better especially the "his black sorrow" at the end lol like ah so true, you shall be forever slay icon Ivan, our King (doomed) Yaoi the third 🤧😭🖤

    • @nanny_uhh
      @nanny_uhh 8 месяцев назад +138

      ​@@mizisuamyuniverse 😂 king of doomed bl

    • @lacedups
      @lacedups 8 месяцев назад +41

      YUPPP HES THE GOAT

    • @emilieseng7478
      @emilieseng7478 8 месяцев назад +12

      For real😢😢😢

    • @leepiclarz
      @leepiclarz 8 месяцев назад +32

      he's my favorite character in this

  • @Betonryn
    @Betonryn 8 месяцев назад +3996

    It’s the way that at the end, after the painfully one sided kiss and the “choking” (which even if till wasn’t actually being choked it’s still painful to have someone grab your neck like that) Ivan gives one last small, gentle kiss knowing it’s the last thing he’ll ever do right before he dies

    • @Betonryn
      @Betonryn 8 месяцев назад +158

      Ive rewatched this too many times

    • @cina2218
      @cina2218 8 месяцев назад +36

      @@Betonryn literally me too im so sad augh

    • @PatientSqueaky
      @PatientSqueaky 8 месяцев назад +74

      I was waiting to see if anyone else saw it! Dude I swear PLEASE let Sua and Ivan be alive or else I swear on my life I will commit arson

    • @Betonryn
      @Betonryn 8 месяцев назад +52

      @@PatientSqueaky I aspire for your level of delusionality 😭 I don’t think they making it outta this one all we can do is hope that Mizi doesn’t get caught and that round 7 doesn’t have a death

    • @LIANARAMIREZ-tc8cx
      @LIANARAMIREZ-tc8cx 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@PatientSqueaky FOR REAL

  • @ella_0929
    @ella_0929 8 месяцев назад +18617

    i noticed that during till’s last line before the kiss, he’s actually not singing (2:58), meaning he was purposefully trying to lose, and when ivan noticed this he made sure till would win by acting “aggressively” on stage 🥲

    • @onigiri8125
      @onigiri8125 8 месяцев назад +1930

      You know, if you compared Ivan's performance in black swan to here, Ivan sang less emotionally here. What I theorised was that the more emotions you put in your singing, the higher points you will get. Cause if you were to hear closely when till was singing, when he thought of sua his voice got raspier. Ivan's voice was similarly like that in black Swan when he started thinking of till. Ivan wanted to throw the entire performance all along by singing more monotonously. Then at the end, till gave up, like what you pointed out. Ivan doubled down and did the choking act, but probably kissed him first because fuck it all right?

    • @onigiri8125
      @onigiri8125 8 месяцев назад +222

      I am crying my ass out 😭

    • @DELETLO
      @DELETLO 8 месяцев назад +309

      @@onigiri8125 Black swan??? Sua??? Bro what au of alnst are you watching

    • @OneveryonessoulsTillisalive
      @OneveryonessoulsTillisalive 8 месяцев назад +250

      ​@@onigiri8125 the kiss also probably seemed like Ivan suffocating Till if they didn't know human gestures 🥲

    • @Ilikesharks732
      @Ilikesharks732 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@onigiri8125realest thing ever

  • @SARAHUSHERNICOLEARMENTA
    @SARAHUSHERNICOLEARMENTA Месяц назад +85

    3:14 when Ivan pulled away from the kiss, there is still light in Till's eyes and it feels like he's seeing Ivan's real feelings for the first time which is probably why he looks kind of shocked and confused. But the light disappears when Ivan held his neck 3:25. I feel like he had an idea of Ivan's feelings for the first time but he disposed this idea quickly when he thought Ivan was going to unalive him. Till thought that Ivan truly wanted to win and k word him.
    3:43 but the shine returns when Ivan's hold in his neck loosens. I interpret this as him having hope that Ivan didn't truly want to unalive him.

  • @mikalzhe
    @mikalzhe 8 месяцев назад +31505

    IVANTILL KISS AT WHAT COST 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @AnArtsyAlicat
      @AnArtsyAlicat 8 месяцев назад +1988

      EVERYTHING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @leenaa.
      @leenaa. 8 месяцев назад +1337

      MY SANITY

    • @BallZackKisser
      @BallZackKisser 8 месяцев назад +1120

      "YAYYYYYY--OH JESUS CHRIST IVAN NOOO😭"

    • @shunnyday_.
      @shunnyday_. 8 месяцев назад +441

      IM GOING TO SOB FOR AGES

    • @Miloisrllycool
      @Miloisrllycool 8 месяцев назад +320

      MY METAL STATE.

  • @misspuffin8854
    @misspuffin8854 8 месяцев назад +3130

    I know people keep saying we don't see any trace of Ivan in Till's eyes until it was already too late, but I think it's more tragic to point out that we do see Till 'see' Ivan during his section. When they were kids, when Ivan had no light in his eyes. So, I think it'a more appropriate to say that the end was more like the first time Till ever saw the light in Ivan's eyes and been able realize that that light had always been for him.

    • @majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164
      @majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164 8 месяцев назад +137

      i have nothing to say this comment made me weep 😭

    • @Ms.Matcha-u2y
      @Ms.Matcha-u2y 8 месяцев назад +116

      I am not mentally stable enough for this (thank you for the analysis)

    • @vanyzvat
      @vanyzvat 8 месяцев назад +59

      STOP IT .

    • @heartz4orv
      @heartz4orv 8 месяцев назад +38

      You’re just making my pain worse, oh gosh

    • @rainmellow14
      @rainmellow14 8 месяцев назад +20

      Stop, please stoppp making me cry

  • @Snowflake0_0.
    @Snowflake0_0. Месяц назад +6539

    The fact that he looked at the score machine to make sure Till's points would be more than his and then kissed him one last time MAKES IT EVEN MORE HEARTBREAKING LIKE WHY DONT YOU JUST STAB ME IN THE HEART INSTEAD OF KILLING ME LIKE THIS 😭

  • @AkifColak-rs9so
    @AkifColak-rs9so 29 дней назад +55

    There can be winter without snow, but snow cant exist without winter.

  • @nevernorest8315
    @nevernorest8315 8 месяцев назад +36668

    You know shit is going to be fucked up when the simple art style is suddenly more detailed

    • @Witches.and.ghosts
      @Witches.and.ghosts 8 месяцев назад +555

      Seriously

    • @sovaaar
      @sovaaar 8 месяцев назад +385

      emo till 😣

    • @GH0STME0WZ-
      @GH0STME0WZ- 8 месяцев назад +57

      fr

    • @cheezenayiax
      @cheezenayiax 8 месяцев назад +296

      Tbh i think its qmeng doing the job

    • @Sunrei-sama
      @Sunrei-sama 8 месяцев назад +1496

      Qmeng cooked, she graduated from the sciences of yaoitology together with Vivinos yuritology

  • @idris8190
    @idris8190 6 месяцев назад +7728

    Whoever mentioned that the light returned in Ivan’s eyes after he knew for sure that he succeeded COUNT YOUR DAYS

    • @xcarnielx5249
      @xcarnielx5249 5 месяцев назад +247

      THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING ABT THIS I HATE YOU SM IM IN YOUR WALLS😡😭💔💔😭

    • @hanjisung_ie
      @hanjisung_ie 5 месяцев назад +119

      I just checked after reading your comment. APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW 😭😭😭

    • @pazuz.u_soccer0419
      @pazuz.u_soccer0419 5 месяцев назад +41

      I BATE YOU SO MCUH

    • @V1atrixxi3
      @V1atrixxi3 5 месяцев назад +39

      NO I LITERALLY JUST STOPPED CRYING WHY HAVE YOU DONE THIS

    • @V1atrixxi3
      @V1atrixxi3 5 месяцев назад +20

      I REWATCHED IT AND YOU'RE RIGHT I HATE YOU SO MUCH😭😭

  • @Nobody-ic2nj
    @Nobody-ic2nj 8 месяцев назад +7372

    Can we talk about how Till's final score is 89 and in Round 3, when Ivan wasn't self-sabotaging, his was 90? One point difference. Again. The parallels to Mizi and Sua are endless. I'm so tired Vivinos, what about my mental health? Huh? I've got exams coming up and all I can think of is these two little bastards. I miss you so much Ivan.

    • @악과잉
      @악과잉 8 месяцев назад +39

      😢😢😢

    • @krihnolte
      @krihnolte 8 месяцев назад +34

      SAME..

    • @glsh-6786
      @glsh-6786 8 месяцев назад +54

      I have my final exams and MAN I WANNA *** DIEEEE

    • @Jesus-wh4sm
      @Jesus-wh4sm 8 месяцев назад +27

      Good luck on your exams y’all

    • @lavenderq2106
      @lavenderq2106 8 месяцев назад +8

      SAME😭

  • @alexiarabot1972
    @alexiarabot1972 Месяц назад +46

    I'm crying, this kiss is the only 'passionate' act we had in Alien Stage at the moment, and it so beautiful... Thank you VIVINOS, it hurts though ...

  • @mx-flohwalzer9104
    @mx-flohwalzer9104 8 месяцев назад +1552

    it’s the fact that ivan holds on until the last bullet hits that makes me go crazy…
    he knew that if he let go on the first bullet, the aliens would have just saved him. so he kept pushing until the point of no return…and that’s why when the final killing bullet hits he smiles immediately before letting go…

    • @Yoon-n8f
      @Yoon-n8f 8 месяцев назад +14

      ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ

    • @Meisimp
      @Meisimp 8 месяцев назад +30

      Im cryingg😭😭😭

    • @PremiumCA
      @PremiumCA 8 месяцев назад +8

      ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ😢😢😢😢 i am crying...

    • @Paaanchiko
      @Paaanchiko 8 месяцев назад +9

      Don't do this to me

    • @bombom1157
      @bombom1157 8 месяцев назад +3

      oooooooooooooooo😦😦😦😦😦😭

  • @colfing_
    @colfing_ 8 месяцев назад +2498

    As the saying goes “to be loved is to be seen” IVAN was never seen by Till in his memory flashbacks☹️ but Till was everywhere in IVAN’s memories 😭

    • @cloudi3kyovo
      @cloudi3kyovo 8 месяцев назад +92

      WHY DID YOU MAKE ME THINK ABOUT THIS STOP

    • @roka745
      @roka745 8 месяцев назад +28

      STOP Now I'm crying again 😭😭😭

    • @xivering
      @xivering 5 месяцев назад +6

      ongoing traffic here i come 😹😹😹

    • @bbinfolder
      @bbinfolder 3 месяца назад +3

      WHY R U DOING THIS

    • @ProfessionalPasta
      @ProfessionalPasta Месяц назад

      Ivan is the only character not seen in aneyone memory . While every character had someone they considered thear god and their beloved , Ivan is the only unloved mf . Btw does aneyone know how to tie an rope?

  • @yxndexe
    @yxndexe 8 месяцев назад +2916

    He wasn't choking him since there were no marks visibly left. Ivan was trying to save Till by doing that. I'm crying..

    • @TheLawlessRogue
      @TheLawlessRogue 8 месяцев назад +21

      WHHUSBUHS CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS FOR ME? PLS, IM A LITTLE BIT SLOW

    • @Kai_4951
      @Kai_4951 8 месяцев назад +309

      @@TheLawlessRogue People are theorizing that Ivan's doing a special type of chokehold where he's holding Till's neck from the sides instead of the front so that makes it seem like he's choking Till without actually hurting him. And he did all that to guarantee Till's victory.

    • @Lorelei_Podfics
      @Lorelei_Podfics 8 месяцев назад +35

      Si, estoy segura de que Ivan noto que Till iba a perder y lo asfixio para salvarlo, por eso las balas eran dociles, porque eran de advertencia para que parara 😭

    • @BranZart-o3u
      @BranZart-o3u 8 месяцев назад +60

      ​@@TheLawlessRogue he was doing it so his score would go down and then Till would win

    • @ultimatesimp9963
      @ultimatesimp9963 8 месяцев назад +5

      Till’s score was already higher than his though?

  • @Heavenly_knows
    @Heavenly_knows Месяц назад +65

    1:44 this part is giving me heartache. Ivan was singing for till, but till never realized it's for him:(

    • @silversoul3809
      @silversoul3809 Месяц назад +3

      Я думаю, он осознал это после раунда. Так что Иван донёс до него свои чувства ❤

  • @tremendo_simp
    @tremendo_simp 8 месяцев назад +2366

    THE LITTLE SMOOCH IVAN GIVE TO TILL BEFORE DIYING AS A FREAKIN FAREWELL TO THEN START "CHOKING" HIM SO HIS OWN POINTS DOWN AND ALSO HIS BELOVED AND FRIEND DOESN'T SEE HIM BE SHOT TO DEATH JUST BREAKS MY SOUL 😭😭

    • @akinmedarda
      @akinmedarda 8 месяцев назад +30

      IKRRR I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT BCUZ IM LIKE I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE

    • @Everlasting_Peace1
      @Everlasting_Peace1 8 месяцев назад +127

      He wasn't even choking him because there were no marks on Till's neck 😭 He made it look like he was choking him so he'd get eliminated.

    • @akinmedarda
      @akinmedarda 8 месяцев назад +17

      @@Everlasting_Peace1 WOOW I DIDNT NOTICE THAT

    • @Hurururur
      @Hurururur 8 месяцев назад +7

      I AM GONE.

    • @ILOVE_ME-STAR
      @ILOVE_ME-STAR 8 месяцев назад +4

      FR I CRY

  • @tiffanykay6060
    @tiffanykay6060 8 месяцев назад +2857

    I didn't even notice that Til stopped singing until I listened to the official video from Studio LICO. In this video you can hear him sing in the audio but if you watch his lips he stopped. That's why Ivan acted when he did, otherwise Til would have lost then and there.

    • @mikameow1856
      @mikameow1856 8 месяцев назад +126

      STOP THIS, I CANT TAKE ANYMORE! I’ve cried way too much bc of them already 😭

    • @eshal1924
      @eshal1924 8 месяцев назад +83

      AAAHH WAIT YOURE RIGHT I DIDNT EVEN CATCH THAT…... oh im so sick of *course* he stepped in then

    • @linhfphung7867
      @linhfphung7867 8 месяцев назад +16

      I had to rewatch to catch it!

    • @escolastica2926
      @escolastica2926 8 месяцев назад +14

      Although in this case it's probably like that, in previous rounds it also seems to be that voice ≠ animation

    • @tiffanykay6060
      @tiffanykay6060 8 месяцев назад +37

      @@escolastica2926 also because the song is cut short here. The Studio LICO version has another couple of verses that they didn’t get to cause Til stopped.

  • @margarettshinearevalo7069
    @margarettshinearevalo7069 8 месяцев назад +2546

    i'd just like to point out the fact that ivan fell in love with till because of his rebellious attitude and his spirit, when he fought against that monster dog thing when he they were still kids at the episode for round three. and the fact that part of till had only shone out because mizi was there with him, presumably wanting to protect mizi by fighting back against the monster. i think ivan finally really starts to understand the extent of how much till loves mizi when he saw that till had no fighting spirit left in him to fight back when he choked him. to me, it wordlessly told ivan that he fell in love with the rebellious fire of a boy that was ignited by someone else. that till's hope was mizi, and that the fire would extinguish alongside her disappearance. that fight in till was never for ivan to fall in love with, it was for and because of the hope he gets from mizi.

    • @majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164
      @majmaimajsmainamjswoj4164 8 месяцев назад +122

      AHHHHHH GOD THIS COMMENT HURT 😭😭😭 good analysis oh my god

    • @arfahkhan5250
      @arfahkhan5250 8 месяцев назад +59

      Omg that's such a good theory

    • @emyore
      @emyore 8 месяцев назад +61

      you just tore my heart out with this omg

    • @Ms.Matcha-u2y
      @Ms.Matcha-u2y 8 месяцев назад +35

      you are so fucking right YOU ARE RIGHT YOU ARE RIGHTTTT

    • @angyla
      @angyla 8 месяцев назад +19

      That's a really good analysis! It really change my view on this video😭

  • @catty646
    @catty646 День назад +3

    Till and Ivan shared both each other’s first and last kiss ❤ 😭

  • @KaLa1865_
    @KaLa1865_ 8 месяцев назад +2428

    3:34 I can’t help but feel that Ivan is not just making sure that they keep shooting him, but his expression is just desperation to have Till look at him one last time.

    • @ikimiyu
      @ikimiyu 8 месяцев назад +20

      ☹️

    • @vdeo5547
      @vdeo5547 8 месяцев назад +73

      He got what he wanted…at the very end….

    • @axolotlanarchy5958
      @axolotlanarchy5958 8 месяцев назад +44

      honestly, I bet a lot of thoughts were running through his head there in just that one frame. ivan fell in love with till for his rebellious spirit, and now he’s watching him just give up without a fight. and that’s after he DID fight when ivan was kissing him. till would literally rather die than kiss him back. god this whole mv is heartbreaking

    • @VvrsteelUndersilk
      @VvrsteelUndersilk Месяц назад +1

      No🫸😭🫷

  • @Angel...............
    @Angel............... 8 месяцев назад +1659

    ok but how the second kiss feels much more genuine. Like after he checks the scores he gives him a short gentle one that feels both like a reassurance and a goodbye. Since Ivan tends to always look out for him in the past I guess thats how his genuine emotions shows up more. And that's when Till looks calm, really sees him and fully embrace him and the situation.

    • @strawberry_jelly262
      @strawberry_jelly262 8 месяцев назад +49

      IKR that’s exactly what I was thinking bc ofc the first kiss was a shock to till but the second time is exactly how you describe it

  • @Yoirea
    @Yoirea 7 месяцев назад +4695

    That small and tender kiss at 3:23 is such a painful yet beautiful detail. It feels like a last declaration of pure love, a goodbye and confession at the same time. I teared up at that moment.

    • @Alpz_m__
      @Alpz_m__ 7 месяцев назад +30

      I notice too! 😭

    • @crowquettic
      @crowquettic 6 месяцев назад +31

      if i've counted properly , it looks like ivan gave till 3 kisses ?

    • @zuki_gnj
      @zuki_gnj 6 месяцев назад +71

      ​@@crowquettic5 times actually-
      3:07
      3:11
      3:14
      3:19 (I'm assuming that this is a kiss-)
      3:23

    • @crowquettic
      @crowquettic 6 месяцев назад +20

      @@zuki_gnj AAA THANK YOU !! i see what you mean , thank you random protagonist !

    • @zuki_gnj
      @zuki_gnj 6 месяцев назад +19

      @@crowquettic I've watched this scene too much, I guess that's why I noticed immediately😭. Anyway you're welcome fellow Ivantill shipper! (I'm assuming you're one🙏)

  • @TallulabelSingsALittleBit
    @TallulabelSingsALittleBit 22 дня назад +18

    i will die on the hill that ivan forced the kiss on till because he knew he wouldnt get to say goodbye properly and till was frozen and kept trying to push ivan to sing so that he may live

  • @achhi101
    @achhi101 8 месяцев назад +26649

    The hypocrisy of Ivan for mocking Sua for sacrificing her life for mizi, just for him to do the same

    • @OhOhriyo_11
      @OhOhriyo_11 8 месяцев назад +4798

      I knew he would do the same 😭 he said all that cuz he knew well that till only sees mizi, and if he dies, it won't affect till as much as sua did to mizi (is what ivan thinks at least ,in my opinion T*T) cuz mizi actually loves sua

    • @pigeonpiupiu
      @pigeonpiupiu 8 месяцев назад +626

      Where did Ivan say about sua sacrificing herself?

    • @strrrbry_tl
      @strrrbry_tl 8 месяцев назад +882

      Community post but it's in Korean tho​@@pigeonpiupiu

    • @OhOhriyo_11
      @OhOhriyo_11 8 месяцев назад +145

      @@pigeonpiupiu it's in the community post!

    • @Man-uj5di
      @Man-uj5di 8 месяцев назад +34

      @@OhOhriyo_11which one if i may ask

  • @freshpresso9436
    @freshpresso9436 8 месяцев назад +2169

    I find Till's development in this clip very interesting. You can see here that he's given up. He is the first to stop singing, he barely resists Ivan during the kiss. It's such a stark contrast to the first clip. Till from the past could put up a fight, but he doesn't now. Till is so devastated.
    On the cotrust, seeing Ivan's eagerness to fight for every bit of attention from Till, and his immense strength for self-sacrifice really breaks my heart.

    • @That0neStay
      @That0neStay 8 месяцев назад +15

      this.

    • @CyberWarezz05
      @CyberWarezz05 8 месяцев назад +56

      Yeah, and he's like that because Mizi disappeared. In the first clip she was almost next to him and basically the song was dedicated to her. Now, with her missing, he feels like he has nothing to lose anymore and I find this pretty interesting since we know that Mizi loved Sua and showed no interest in Till. He's so in love with her and devoted it hurts...

  • @unknownhermit5897
    @unknownhermit5897 8 месяцев назад +5382

    Something I noticed about Ivan is that I feel like, whenever Till looked like he was feeling down or looked like he was on the verge of giving up, Ivan would do things to purposefully grate on tills nerve in order to get him to fight. I think he did that because he fell in love with Till and his fighting spirit and never wanted to see it die out. I feel like it's also part of the reason why he kissed Till during the competition as well. Because of Mizi being gone, he looked like he was on the verge of giving up and Ivan didn't want that. Granted I'm just speculating, but it feels like a common theme.

    • @icy4636
      @icy4636 8 месяцев назад +254

      wow, i agree! just noticed that. maybe he had mutipple plans an intentions behind the kiss and strangling. making sure he would get disqualified, trying to make till mad and keep fighting..

    • @Tartaglitwo
      @Tartaglitwo 8 месяцев назад +42

      You make me sick I want to cry

    • @swaggooo9638
      @swaggooo9638 8 месяцев назад +2

      wait i have question why did ivan choke till even tho till got a higher score than ivan

    • @unknownhermit5897
      @unknownhermit5897 8 месяцев назад +20

      @@swaggooo9638 I personally feel like it was, again, in part to incentivse Till to fight back like he always did. Possibly a wrong interpretation, but that's my perspective. I also know it's quite likely he wanted the score to stay the same so that he would be the one killed.

    • @토야-x6q
      @토야-x6q 8 месяцев назад +3

      Ivan died for Till..😢

  • @ilovekasa
    @ilovekasa 5 дней назад +10

    it’s been 8 months. ivan is alive. ivan is alive. ivan is alive. ivan is alive.

  • @Alexell_Tata
    @Alexell_Tata 8 месяцев назад +2310

    Notice how starting from 2:54 of the vid, Ivan's eye lack those glint or white stuff on his eye, they only came back when, FIRST, when he was looking at the scores. Then SECOND, when he was shot for the last time.
    Notice how he lacked those glint while kissing Till. It's as if he wanted Till to hate him even more, so that the ending can be less painful.
    Notice how, even with the cold demeanor and forcing Till, at the end, he was able to be relieved that the person he loves most got to live.
    That even then, Ivan managed to show who he really is to Till before dying.
    Just like in Black Sorrow, Ivan's mask broke because of Till, and in the end, Ivan's end, it was still Till who broke that mask of his. Only Till.

    • @joymoua6651
      @joymoua6651 8 месяцев назад +104

      STOP YOU’RE MAKING ME SOB

    • @KrisninaArwenSanPablo-ip2sj
      @KrisninaArwenSanPablo-ip2sj 8 месяцев назад +61

      im sure you also suffered typing this comment as much as i have suffered and cried soooo much reading this. bet it was like :
      'notice...*sobsobsob* how even, *cries*'

    • @msk-qp6fn
      @msk-qp6fn 8 месяцев назад +30

      It felt a lot like ivan was trying to make till hate him even more so till would remember him, kinda like how it was hinted that sua originally was going to sacrifice herself for mizi to save mizi and also so mizi would remember her

    • @bombom1157
      @bombom1157 8 месяцев назад +4

      😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @Ms.Matcha-u2y
      @Ms.Matcha-u2y 8 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@msk-qp6fn hits hard when you remember the community post where Ivan talks to Sua about being selfish and sacrificing herself because Ivan sAYS to her "you'll be a traumatic experience to Mizi"
      he knows Till doesn't love him, nor even look at him even when Mizi isn't around, but he still plays up his cold persona so Till doesn't pity Ivan when he dies- which knows he will. Ivan doesn't want any good memories attached to him in Till's mind so that Till can continue fighting and live on with no heartbreak.

  • @RB_kun40567
    @RB_kun40567 8 месяцев назад +5254

    The Fact that Ivan was born on 14 Feb (velentine's day) yet was remained deprived of love.

    • @villager96
      @villager96 8 месяцев назад +186

      That’s the day he was adopted I believe, not his real birthday

    • @RB_kun40567
      @RB_kun40567 8 месяцев назад +137

      ​​@@villager96 can't confirm it as it's not mentioned there that if it's his adoption date or birth date. Still can be consider as bday. *Edit* : it's confirmed it's his birthday the lastest community poll post about character profile says "birthday: 0214".

    • @villager96
      @villager96 8 месяцев назад +43

      @@RB_kun40567 maybe he hates that date because it’s the day he was adopted by ugly aliens 🥶

    • @RB_kun40567
      @RB_kun40567 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@villager96 could be

    • @villager96
      @villager96 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@RB_kun40567 why would you edit your comment though? Didn’t you say something like 'we can still consider it to be his birthday'? And no, when they were tweeting about the birthdays of the characters, everyone had birthday besides the date except him, who had *adoption* day instead. They never said what his birthday was, probably because it’s supposed to be unknown.

  • @user-co7ip5it6w
    @user-co7ip5it6w 8 месяцев назад +4843

    틸 점수높은거 확인하고 다정하게 키스하는거 미쳤나. 그때까지도 틸은 당연히 자기가 질 줄 알고 있었겠지. 이반 팬들이 압도적으로 많으니까. 그래서 목이 졸리는 순간까지도 자기가 진 줄 알고 죽을 준비하는데 틸 눈치못채게 이반은 총 맞으면서도 놔주질 않았고 나중에 틸이 이반 쓰러진 거 보고 상황파악하는게 맴찢임. 마지막 순간에서야 틸은 이반의 수 많은 배려 중 하나를 알아챘겠지..쓰발 너무 슬퍼...

    • @gh1234_
      @gh1234_ 8 месяцев назад +85

      ㅠㅠ해석 너무 슬퍼요ㅠ

    • @현채빈-f3j
      @현채빈-f3j 8 месяцев назад +11

      ㅠㅠ

    • @this_is_sangcom
      @this_is_sangcom 8 месяцев назад +80

      가슴이 오억오천갈래로 찢어져~~~

    • @user-lb9ff8hi8i
      @user-lb9ff8hi8i 5 месяцев назад +33

      ​@@this_is_sangcom오조오억 갈래로 찢어져 ㅠㅠ

    • @ozszs
      @ozszs 3 месяца назад

      제발요 이게 자해지 씨발... 오열중...

  • @Okrock_.luv5
    @Okrock_.luv5 5 месяцев назад +2786

    Stoppp, the way Ivan’s expression softens when he spits blood😭😭

    • @xivering
      @xivering 5 месяцев назад +17

      STP ITTTT

    • @Fromthestart123
      @Fromthestart123 5 месяцев назад +73

      Bros just glad that his plan worked sucessfully of sacrificing himself for someone he loves 😭😭

    • @InsufferableHumanBeing
      @InsufferableHumanBeing 4 месяца назад +25

      BROOOO A TEAR APPEARED WHEN HE REALIZED HIS PLAN SUCCEEDED (WHEN HE GETS SHOT AND SPITS BLOOD, WHEN HIS GAZE SOFTENS)
      HOW COME I ONLY KNEW ABT THIS KNOW AGHHHHHHHH, I THOUGHT THE ONLY ONE WHO CRIED WAS TILL. TURNS OUT THEY BOTH CRIED😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @InsufferableHumanBeing
      @InsufferableHumanBeing 4 месяца назад +8

      Count your days, Vivinos... ☹☹☹☹

    • @dokjalost
      @dokjalost 3 месяца назад +5

      SHUT UP IM CRYING JST FOR THAT SCENE

  • @sorayuu8134
    @sorayuu8134 7 месяцев назад +1992

    For some reason Ivan kissing Till is absolutely obliterating my heart, cause Ivan knows that his feelings aren't truly reciprocated, but he still kisses the one he is devoted to with such passion before sacrificing himself for that person - super painful 😭

    • @Meowzers_3
      @Meowzers_3 6 месяцев назад +30

      That’s why Ivan’s my favorite😔

    • @Spideyhwa
      @Spideyhwa 6 месяцев назад +30

      Ivantill kiss at the cost of ivan 😕

    • @전혜성-x4i
      @전혜성-x4i 5 месяцев назад +3

      NOOOOOO I'M GONNA KAY EM ES 😭😭😭

    • @ducky_2309
      @ducky_2309 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's ok mentally they're alive and well + married

    • @Meowzers_3
      @Meowzers_3 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@ducky_2309 my dreams are just dreams😫😭😭

  • @1987_wav
    @1987_wav 8 месяцев назад +4724

    Ok but nobody talking about Till’s vocals???????? He had already shown a more soft vocal in Clematis but THIS 😭 he sounds so tired and broken
    Edit: Also the fact that Ivan sounds so composed in comparison to Black sorrow where he lowkey snapped at the end, He was so sure of what he was about to do, bro I cannot with this
    Both voice actors were on a mission to DESTROY us

    • @irazzx._1312
      @irazzx._1312 8 месяцев назад +290

      Hearing Till not singing violently and more to soft voice is just so..🥹 bit to add that Till look really dead in his eyes,he really had enough of this things(he even accept ivan choked him and not even fights back😭)

    • @Niko-uc2nq
      @Niko-uc2nq 8 месяцев назад +125

      Especially at 2:48 I keep listening to it on loop it’s really a change from the past round

    • @halcyon.x
      @halcyon.x 8 месяцев назад +54

      right!! i love akugetsu’s voice so much

    • @1987_wav
      @1987_wav 8 месяцев назад +36

      @@irazzx._1312FR, ngl for a second there I really though that Ivan was going to make both of them die together

    • @irazzx._1312
      @irazzx._1312 8 месяцев назад +12

      @@1987_wav THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT TOO!💀

  • @n_ame637
    @n_ame637 24 дня назад +21

    아 진짜 이건 아니잖아... 진짜 과장 하나도 안 하고 이반 생각할 때마다 눈물 나옴...ㅠㅜㅠㅜㅠ 제발 행복하게 살아줘...

  • @m.0186
    @m.0186 8 месяцев назад +5947

    IVAN SMILED AT THE END WHEN HE REALIZED HE WAS DYING AND THAT MEANT TILL WOULD LIVE AND THAT ENOUGH MADE HIM HAPPY EVEN WHILE DYING I AM IN SHAMBLES
    edit: guys my notifs please, i know what happens next i'm still in recovery ok....... 😭

    • @pigeonpiupiu
      @pigeonpiupiu 8 месяцев назад +143

      WAIT OMG I JUST REALISED THAT HE'S HAPPY BECAUSE HE'S GONNA DIE INSTEAD OF TILL OMG IMMA CRY IN CORNER

    • @basileaf...
      @basileaf... 8 месяцев назад +30

      STOP IT I'M ALREADY CRYING HARD ENOUGH

    • @annabellthedoll9953
      @annabellthedoll9953 8 месяцев назад +26

      I'm literally shaking I'm not okay.

    • @annabellthedoll9953
      @annabellthedoll9953 8 месяцев назад +14

      ​@@pigeonpiupiu I'm crying in my bathroom.

    • @lizzyrank5405
      @lizzyrank5405 8 месяцев назад +71

      I think it's also because for once Till looked at Ivan in the eyes. It's sad though that in his last moments Ivan is finally in Tills eyeline, yet would never have the same impact as Mizi.

  • @yunnish
    @yunnish 8 месяцев назад +2560

    even in the acrylic standee merch, till isn't looking at ivan, but ivan is looking at till...

    • @vanyzvat
      @vanyzvat 8 месяцев назад +159

      Stop im tired of crying 😭😭

    • @tn_otaku1702
      @tn_otaku1702 8 месяцев назад +59

      This is breaking me 😿

    • @jaegaya4282
      @jaegaya4282 8 месяцев назад +61

      PLEASE SHUT IT I WANT TO MOVE ONN

    • @suntailu88
      @suntailu88 8 месяцев назад +18

      BRO I knew I wasn’t the only one who noticed that 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I almost started crying again

    • @Unoosu3444
      @Unoosu3444 8 месяцев назад +9

      Dude enough 😭 I can't

  • @queenidragon4489
    @queenidragon4489 8 месяцев назад +2087

    can we just talk about how much emotion Ivans eyes had at 3:40 normally his eyes don't have highlights which makes him feel inhumane but as soon as he realizes he's actually going to die his eyes become more human

    • @Haz3l.Sa1
      @Haz3l.Sa1 8 месяцев назад +135

      I read a theory that his eyes finally lit up only after he realized his plan worked and Till would have a chance to win and be safe and live- now I'm crying-

    • @user-bp8tt3sq2x
      @user-bp8tt3sq2x 8 месяцев назад +30

      I mean the first time we see Ivan he scored a 90 but in this round he only scored a 70 he definitely sacrificed himself for Till

    • @aerrrrrr
      @aerrrrrr 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@Haz3l.Sa1yeah i was thinking that was probably the case too. if i loved someone as much as ivan did i wouldn’t be scared to die. i’d be happy that i was able to get the person i love to live

  • @mangxoo
    @mangxoo 27 дней назад +20

    i think the reason till closed his eyes when ivan started 'choking' him wasnt because he was actually being choked, but i think its because he lost all hipe of living. since we already know till most likely loves mizi, finding out she went missing wouldve been dreadful for him. so when ivan grabbed his neck, even though he wasnt actually being strangled he lost all hope and thought he was gonna die. I think thats also probably why he looked shocked when ivan let go of his neck and got shot, as he was prepared to die himself, not for ivan to die!!!!!!!!

  • @inkcat7
    @inkcat7 8 месяцев назад +3237

    not only till doesn't think about ivan at all, but he doesn't look at him ONCE until he's physically forced to.
    even in ivan's flashbacks he only looks at ivan when he's provoked (when they have a fight, when ivan touches his wound)
    speaking of that fight they have...
    (2:03) ivan seems particularly happy. i wonder if it's because till is paying attention to him for once.
    even the lyrics go "notice my pain"

    • @Bright_Berry-Roi
      @Bright_Berry-Roi 8 месяцев назад +53

      yea I don't think Till likes Ivan

    • @pathetic2399
      @pathetic2399 8 месяцев назад +262

      @@Bright_Berry-Roi They’re friends, as shown in the flashbacks, but he obviously has/had romantic feelings for Mizi.

    • @OhOhriyo_11
      @OhOhriyo_11 8 месяцев назад +249

      ​@@Bright_Berry-Roiit's clear, I think Ivan is just there in till's life, he finally saw/notice Ivan at the end. It's always when they die they realise 😭

    • @inkcat7
      @inkcat7 8 месяцев назад +196

      ​@@Bright_Berry-Roi nobody thinks that lol but it's more obvious since it's the first time we see them together in present time. it's not just that till can't spare ivan a thought, he can't even spare him a glance. it's like ivan is a ghost, which is a sharp contrast to how obsessive ivan is about till.
      it's also interesting how the till-mizi unrequited love feels a lot more innocent compared to ivan-till. it's probably because till is much less touchy and much more respectful, and also has other interests/things he cares about

    • @OhOhriyo_11
      @OhOhriyo_11 8 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@inkcat7idk what u mean with "nobody thinks that" but I'm sure most do with the flashback and all.
      But yes sure that doesn't mean they are friends, maybe to till but I doubt that. Ivan is just there in till's life.

  • @Editor_zephyr
    @Editor_zephyr 8 месяцев назад +4013

    IVAN MADE HIMSELF LOSE, LOSING HIS OWN SINGING TIME JSUT TO KISS TILL ONE LAST TIME.

    • @fcxfchfchgchdxrtxtucjy4055
      @fcxfchfchgchdxrtxtucjy4055 8 месяцев назад +419

      you say one last time like they’ve kissed before THIS IS THEIR FIRST AND LAST KISS IM GOING TO THROW UP

    • @LostCloverIntheWood
      @LostCloverIntheWood 8 месяцев назад +138

      WE BELIEVE IN IVAN SURVIVING

    • @chivalrie
      @chivalrie 8 месяцев назад +38

      STOP IM BAWLING MY EYES OUT😭😭

    • @leroyjenkins1249
      @leroyjenkins1249 8 месяцев назад +38

      LUCKILY! To be honest: no matter the tragedy, forced kisses are s* assault. Made me hurl to watch it. He is lucky it had a point

    • @yjohnson3678
      @yjohnson3678 8 месяцев назад +151

      @@leroyjenkins1249I mean granted with the situation they’re in I don’t think their morality can compare to us on that lvl. They were raised by aliens that saw them as literal pets. Tho I get what you mean.

  • @CxiiElmo
    @CxiiElmo 8 месяцев назад +1354

    You can tell from Till's expression throughout that he had in a way accepted his fate and expecting to die this round - but he wasn't scared... he probably saw it as finally being released from this torment. What he didn't know, however, is that Ivan would never let that happen 😭

    • @nejy44
      @nejy44 8 месяцев назад +2

      he was literally choking him..?

    • @justcentipede
      @justcentipede 8 месяцев назад

      He was sacrificing himself for Ivan, there is a right way to strangulate someone without intending to murder and that is exactly what he did, because he wanted to be disqualified to save Ivan.​@@nejy44

    • @hannah5021
      @hannah5021 8 месяцев назад +86

      ​@@nejy44there are no marks on tolls neck from choking, Ivan was likely just holding his neck

    • @nejy44
      @nejy44 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@hannah5021 i saw other comments saying the same thing but i dont think it was an intentional detail bcs why would ivan pretend choke till? wanting him to die with him makes more sense to me, especially bcs he kisses him first, sees that he lost and then starts choking him. also its weird to just be holding someone by their neck??

    • @rrei0001
      @rrei0001 8 месяцев назад +69

      ​@@nejy44because you'll be killed if you harm your opponent I think, seen in round 5

  • @すずりび
    @すずりび Месяц назад +12

    まって今までの中で一番泣けたんだけど

  • @myst1558
    @myst1558 8 месяцев назад +2503

    you can really hear it in their voices, till’s voice is trembling and full of raw emotion and desperation, but ivan’s is steady, calm, determined. like he knows what he has to do. IM CRYING

    • @sy-mp6ip
      @sy-mp6ip 8 месяцев назад +7

      your friendly reminder you currently have 1.6k likes

  • @erikaperez8665
    @erikaperez8665 8 месяцев назад +2901

    What I noticed, what I understood and how I interpreted this.
    1.- In the first seconds of this round we hear the beatings of a heart while we watch different moments of Tills life and the experiments that he has endured, almost like he is watching his life pass in front of his eyes. He expects to die at the end of this round and when his actual face is revealed it shows how everything he has gone through is finally taking a toll on him (of course this happens after his reason to live is no where to be found, without Mizi he doesn’t see a reason to move forward).
    2.- When he starts singing and the picture behind him shows we can notice the differences between his personality now and how it was back when mizi was “alive”, he is clearly boring the audience as they all look at him with an unimpressed gaze (also, he is competing against a fan favorite). And the phrase “ I don’t want to let you go” makes reference to mizi. Every single line he sings and almost every memory makes reference to her and to her death, Till genuinely thinks he is dead without her.
    3.-Then we get the first and only memory of Ivan. From Till’s perspective we get that both of them got into a fight when they were kids and the gaze that Ivan used to look at Till is rather…. Sadistic Unbothered?. I think this is the perception that Till has of Ivan, he isn’t able to read him and therefore has always thought Ivan was annoying him for the fun of it. This scene shifts to a memory of Ivan, as he finds Till knocked out in the karaoke bar.
    4.- It’s clear to see the parallel between both memories, the only thing that makes a difference is the way that Ivan looks at Till, his eyes are sparkling, as he is looking at his beloved.
    5.- This parallel between scenes shows us that Till doesn’t actually know about Ivan’s feeling for him and that he has always interpreted them as hatred or dismissive, in the other hand, Ivan actually looks at Till lovingly in every memory of himself, he even has the permission to take of the collar of Till. (I don’t think every human can take off the collar of everyone else, but Ivan CAN. This makes me wonder if he is the one who usually saves till and takes care of him, to the point that the guardians have ALLOWED him to do so).
    6.-Ivan lyrics also makes reference to Till in every moment. “Even if your cold words carve scars beneath my eyes…” this clearly makes reference to the way Till treats Ivan (which I assume is not pleasant, as Till is almost unaware of his existence). For example: In a community post we see Till complaining about Ivan wishing he would go away, he thinks that Ivan’s presence is making Mizi go away. Ivan just states that Mizi never plays with him, the one that does so is Ivan.
    7.- Is almost as if Mizi takes the place of Ivan in every memory of Till, that’s the level of obsession Till has of Mizi.
    8.- I wouldn’t be surprised if Ivan was constantly devastated from the things Tills says. This lack of acknowledgement forces Ivan to do drastic things like getting in a physical fight with Till and sadly this is the ONLY memory Till has of Ivan (paragraph 3) so this drastic measures actually work.
    9.- The next scene reflects what actually Ivan wants to be noticed, the looks of affection he gives, the gentleness. Nonetheless, the only thing that gets a reacting from Till are the things Ivan doesn’t like (dramatic gestures). And I think Ivan doesn’t really like the grand gestures because of his judgment of Sua and her decision to die for Mizi. (The ultimate sacrifice just for the sake of being remembered).
    10.- I want to make another point, in round 3 we can see a flash back of a red flower crown flying past Ivan and Till going after it. I think what happened is that Mizi made this flower crown for Sua, the flower crown flew away and till wanted to get it back for Mizi (who wanted it for Sua) Mizi and Till go into the home of an alien flower (also shown in the memories) and the flower eats this flower crown, making Till try and fight with the alien plant to get it back for Mizi, Till ends up getting hurt and Ivan just watches from the back. (This is what I can deduce with round 3 flashbacks). In this round we see another flashback of that same day (maybe) where Ivan is watching the plant form the back and one where he is touching its teeth, I think either Ivan calmed down the plant or he managed to get the flower crown from its mouth without getting hurt, whatever happened it culminated on Ivan getting Tills wound treated (Mizi probably fled the scene or trusted Ivan to take care of Tills, as they were close friends even if Tills doesn’t seem to recall that).
    11.- Then Ivan is seen caressing Tills wounded face in a hospital and finally Tills running away from their attempted escape. This is even more devastating as we can now interpret their escape as Ivan’s way of saving Till for the millionth time, expecting to be saved at the same time, expecting Till to be grateful and running away with him because maybe, just maybe, Till will care enough about both of them to move forward and finally acknowledge the sacrifices Ivan constantly makes for him, but alas, Till runs away and decides their fate.
    12.- We see a glimpse of real life Till being depressed as Ivan pours his heart out in the chorus. “In your gaze where I’m seen…” he doesn’t even look at Ivan in the memories nor in real life. Till cannot see the suffering in Ivan, and Ivan just sees the suffering of Till. Ivan was never seen, every glimpse of his memory he longs for the gaze of Till, but he never acquires it.
    13.- “Face to face we dance…” Ivan keeps looking at Till, trying to make it about them. “With our story…” Till looks in front of him thinking about Mizi. He stops singing and Ivan directly starts his plan. Even when he KNOWS Ivan is heading towards him, Till is not bothered to look at him. 3:04. Until he has to.
    14.- And for the first time the roles change, The one with sparking eyes is Till and Ivan just looks at him without anything. The first kiss they shared and Till is still unable to read Ivan. For him, this came out of nowhere 3:15. His surprise changes to alert when Ivan grabs him by the throat. Ivan isn’t even hurting him.
    15.- Ivan is concerned for the lack of resistance that Till shows, Ivan has fell in love with the resilience and defiance of Tills personality and now it’s nowhere to be found. The numbers change and Ivan’s plan works, he starts being killed for the “aggression” he is committing. Even when he is dying, till is not looking at him. Finally he lets go, as he ensures his loved one will survive. And as he falls his last picture is Till finally looking at him. Ivan smiles as a last goodbye, the smile is enough to make Till understand everything he hadn’t noticed before.
    There is no people, no Mizi, no aliens, no cameras and no microphones. It’s only Ivan, as the spotlight focuses on them, Till realizes he has lost the only thing that was constant, the reason he has actually managed to survive this long.
    Meanwhile, Ivan is now the thing he despised, he has done this last grand gesture to make Till look at him (paragraph 9). He has died in what he longed all along. Maybe it was never meant to be.
    Edit: OMG GUYS YOU ARE SO NICE.

    • @proudtiger2538
      @proudtiger2538 8 месяцев назад +256

      YOU CAN COOK ✍️💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥

    • @ILLBEWAITING-f3b
      @ILLBEWAITING-f3b 8 месяцев назад +188

      You explained everything so well, thank youu 😭

    • @ca-miura8509
      @ca-miura8509 8 месяцев назад +22

      niceee

    • @metallickandy
      @metallickandy 8 месяцев назад +16

      😭

    • @mina_moon5687
      @mina_moon5687 8 месяцев назад +38

      You explained it so perfectly, no words. 🙏❤️

  • @ChibiUsaaaa
    @ChibiUsaaaa 8 месяцев назад +2275

    3:23 you see the way this kiss was less aggressive than the other ones? He did that once he saw tills score going up and his going down. This was a more genuine kiss of relief and a kiss to say goodbye, it was softer than the others because Ivan was saying goodbye.

    • @shino_shuiro
      @shino_shuiro 8 месяцев назад +144

      Y'ALL GOTTA STOP THIS 😭😭😭

    • @myfarm2131
      @myfarm2131 8 месяцев назад +43

      The way u got me sobbing 😭😭😭 all I can think about are these two

    • @NotBasil
      @NotBasil 8 месяцев назад +17

      STOP THIS

    • @OCmillion
      @OCmillion 8 месяцев назад +12

      Screaming. Crying. Throwing Up

    • @tartaglia__1
      @tartaglia__1 8 месяцев назад +6

      PLEASE STOP

  • @tillthe_3nd
    @tillthe_3nd Месяц назад +27

    thank you for taking away my happiness privileges i love this so much

  • @mochi0193
    @mochi0193 7 месяцев назад +2266

    As long as Ivan isn't shot in the heart, I still have faith he's alive.

    • @cutie9
      @cutie9 6 месяцев назад +241

      He bled through his mouth bro that’s internal bleeding. They already wanted him dead so they arent gonna treat him. I hate to say this but most likely he’s dead. I pray to everyone he isn’t.

    • @n9_xiu
      @n9_xiu 6 месяцев назад +130

      @@cutie9 nuh uh he's chillin with sua, hyuna and mizi guys trust ☹☹

    • @nelnyann
      @nelnyann 6 месяцев назад +60

      ​@@cutie9HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT UR MAKING ME LOSE MY SANITY I SWEAR HES ALIVE GRRRR SNARLS

    • @enclinker7951
      @enclinker7951 6 месяцев назад +22

      @@cutie9if he’s throwing up blood then he’s probably got shot in the lungs too ;________;

    • @cutie9
      @cutie9 6 месяцев назад +24

      @@enclinker7951 yeah that’s what I meant I mean it doesn’t necessarily have to be lungs to be fatal just the fact he’s bleeding out from his mouth means he’s gonna die soon
      but never have I ever hoped I was wrong Pls be alive PLS PLEASE

  • @Lulu_0809
    @Lulu_0809 5 месяцев назад +1717

    The fact that in the end Till is just standing over Ivan’s body long enough that the show is over and the lights turn off, like he’s in shock or denial that Ivan is dead and is just standing there, processing the fact that he is gone - It hurtsss 😭

    • @kcaa1818
      @kcaa1818 4 месяца назад +23

      Till realized too late 💔💔💔💔

    • @kunikuzushi5355
      @kunikuzushi5355 3 месяца назад +9

      it hurts. - xie lian

    • @mariaa.e.r.2560
      @mariaa.e.r.2560 3 месяца назад +1

      @@kunikuzushi5355YOU DID NOT-

  • @kara8825
    @kara8825 8 месяцев назад +1461

    Ivan's sacrifice is heartbreaking for a multitude of reasons. For starters, Ivan knows that Till (in his current state) would never choose him in place of Mizi. I mean, he has watched Till literally give up his complete freedom from ALNST just to stay by her side. Regardless, he would do what he could to capture Till's attention, even if it meant purposefully teasing or picking a fight with him (2:03). This is because, to Ivan, Till is practically the only reason his life has meaning.
    As an audience, we can assume that Ivan has had a hard life full of abuse prior to his participation in ALNST. His eyes in flashbacks are drawn with little to no light. That is until he meets Till, the only character (including Hyuna) to have shown some real resistance to the ALNST and alien control since his childhood. In ALNST Round 3, we see that Ivan views Till's volatile, uncontrollable personality as something as beautiful as a sky full of shooting stars. He wishes so desperately to be the one to hold Till's spark, for his blaze to "consume him" (2:42). Yet, after Mizi's disappearance following ALNST Round 5, Till's flame goes out. He becomes a shadow of his former self, losing his fighting spirit in the process. And Ivan is forced to watch the person he loves, the one thing that has proven to him that life is worth living, completely throw himself away.
    Till wanted to die that day. He wore black to his own funeral. Even when Ivan began kissing and choking him, he never put up much of a fight to resist (3:26). But Ivan was willing to risk everything for Till. He threw his chance of living by tossing his microphone aside and began to "attack" Till as it was the only way he could assure his loss. He even kept holding on after multiple shots. Although, he could never truly hurt Till as Ivan only wrapped his hands around his collar rather than his neck. And with a final kiss goodbye, Ivan died with a smile. He was genuinely grateful that was able to save Till from a death marked by the ALNST, and that for once, even if it was at the end, Till's eyes were only on him.

    • @Ms.Matcha-u2y
      @Ms.Matcha-u2y 8 месяцев назад +104

      how has nobody commented on this?? oh my god??
      "Ivan views Till's volatile uncontrollable personality as somethinh as beautiful as a sky full of shooting stars. He wishes so desperately to be the one to hold Till's spark, for his blaze to consume him" LORDDD YOU _ATE_ WITH THISSSSS??
      Ivan wants Till all to himself, which in theory he SHOULD considering Mizi is out of the picture. But Mizi is Till's oxygen, he needs her like he needs air. As you've beautifully pointed out, Till's flame was slowly dying. Till's flashback even shows him distraught when he's supposed to perform in front of the aliens. Till has always been the rebel, he's resisted being pushed around at any given chance, but this time he can't even stand to put his mask back on and sing for these pricks.
      He fights back when he sees the aliens lash out at him and threaten him, Mizi's missing poster being shoved in his face being the icing on the cake. He is finally neutralized by who I assume is his guardian, but he's beaten and bruised. He's helpless. This is the point of no return I think, this is what leads Till to just surrender emotionally. "Wearing black to his own funeral" as you put it.
      "Ivan is forced to watch the person he loves completely throw himself away" and its so painful because he'd rather die himself than watch Till's spirit stop burning bright.
      Gosh, what maniacs they are- Ivan I mean. And Vivinos. for creating this beautiful mess of love, devotion, and death.

    • @kurutta-sama2442
      @kurutta-sama2442 8 месяцев назад +33

      Friend, your comment made me cry, you are completely right.

    • @alkosvdka
      @alkosvdka 8 месяцев назад +18

      This is an amazing summary and interpretation. I couldn't think to add any more to this as it describes this episode so well.

    • @seyiselaton
      @seyiselaton 8 месяцев назад +16

      EVEN IF IT WAS IN THE END, TILL'S EYES WERE ONLY ON HIM 😭😭😭

    • @twins_cats292
      @twins_cats292 8 месяцев назад +7

      Godddddff vivinos what are you smoked when you done this😢

  • @guncedurucelebioglu6943
    @guncedurucelebioglu6943 Месяц назад +3

    If you look closely, right between the kiss and the choke, Till’s face slightly relaxes. It doesn’t look panicked or scared or anything, he’s not that phased by it, he’s just realizing that oh, Ivan kissed him…. But it’s very brief because Ivan starts fake choking him the next second and that freaks him out.

  • @rubymaciashernandez9938
    @rubymaciashernandez9938 8 месяцев назад +3871

    He couldn't bear the idea of losing Till, so he gave himself up instead... 😢💔

    • @ae-hg6dw
      @ae-hg6dw 8 месяцев назад +74

      IM GONNA CRY stopp

    • @추강
      @추강 8 месяцев назад +43

      POOR TILL

    • @xen.xen.
      @xen.xen. 8 месяцев назад +12

      I CAN'T DO THIS

    • @sxdnnezz-3390
      @sxdnnezz-3390 8 месяцев назад +10

      STOP IT ☹️☹️☹️

    • @belph6
      @belph6 8 месяцев назад +3

      doooooont say thattttt

  • @lucyxx6022
    @lucyxx6022 2 месяца назад +2721

    Never expected I’d come here to see Till being alive 💀

  • @dimple2700
    @dimple2700 8 месяцев назад +2160

    I think out of all of them, Till seems to be the one most talented in music. He was writing his own music and he was the only one seen playing an instrument. Plus, Mizi even gifted him a flute. With how much he rebelled at every single opportunity, Till must have been super talented for him to even have passed and gotten into the tournament. And the fact that the aliens still made him perform outside of the tournament despite having to restrain him so much is crazy to me.

    • @maiphuongnguyenthi1096
      @maiphuongnguyenthi1096 8 месяцев назад +159

      It has been confirmed that he is indeed a musical genius!

    • @AdSoyad-rp1vm
      @AdSoyad-rp1vm 8 месяцев назад +77

      Till would win against Luka ez, he can sing multiple genres

    • @нтѕяєму
      @нтѕяєму 8 месяцев назад +69

      And him hitting high ass notes in this song despite technically have little to no practice from depressing over mizi and stuff, so he's rlly a music genius ✋️✋️✋️

    • @anonyme4659
      @anonyme4659 8 месяцев назад +61

      He also has the fastest selling albums! In addition from being a musical genius he is (maybe with Hyuna) the most expressive character in my opinion. Aliens love seeing human feelings, it's no wonder they love his music

    • @ranjanem3047
      @ranjanem3047 8 месяцев назад +31

      @@AdSoyad-rp1vm Yes he is more talented but the aliens still like Luka more. This is seen in the top 3 video and in round 5 where they cheer much more for Luka than Mizi.

  • @LottaPox
    @LottaPox 13 дней назад +4

    Bro their voices are straight up ANGELIC

  • @littlefish1372
    @littlefish1372 8 месяцев назад +1717

    One thing that I want to mention about Ivan. He somehow knows how to remove a collar. In flashback in the 3rd round Ivan took Till’s collar off. In bar Ivan took Till’s collar off. Even in flashback Ivan reaches his hand to Till’s collar. No one else did something like that in ALNST. Please, Ivan is too smart to die 😭😭😭

    • @altheac1114
      @altheac1114 8 месяцев назад +131

      unfortunately, I don't think the writers will probably listen. There's no way in hell that Ivan would've survived multiple bullet wounds. I think Till will probably use that knowledge though.

    • @IIlIllIlIIIlIllllI
      @IIlIllIlIIIlIllllI 8 месяцев назад +62

      @@altheac1114 we just need some copium alright😭😭😭

    • @Yeshua-gb5nk
      @Yeshua-gb5nk 8 месяцев назад +131

      ​@@altheac1114 You should rewatch round 1 and see how the guard shot when they want it to be lethal. Realistically speaking, if they were standard bullet wounds Ivan would have collapsed sooner and most likely on his right side instead. Plus those aliens probably have better medicine than us. The way this round is done writers can both pretend Ivan died or just severely wounded.

    • @yannenenenen
      @yannenenenen 8 месяцев назад +71

      @@Yeshua-gb5nkwe’re coping so hard

    • @Yeshua-gb5nk
      @Yeshua-gb5nk 8 месяцев назад +36

      @@yannenenenen Maybe, maybe not. Personally I'm gonna wait for the next video before saying anything definitive, there are too many elements that are off to me.

  • @l0wkeyanintrovert
    @l0wkeyanintrovert 8 месяцев назад +555

    That fucking smile . . . That smile of relief is killing me. The way Ivan looked at Till with so much love and adoration just killed me

  • @katanaattack1421
    @katanaattack1421 8 месяцев назад +702

    When you noticed Ivan Squeezed the side of Till's neck to not block his airway

  • @SKLeonidas01
    @SKLeonidas01 День назад +3

    after 6 months, im rethinking my life choices of watching this again

  • @유민-i6b
    @유민-i6b 8 месяцев назад +2634

    3:44 틸이 항상 미지를 보느라 이반을 봐 주던 적이 없는데 마지막에 이반이 죽을 때 틸이 드디어 이반을 똑바로 보니까 이반 만족했다는 듯이 웃으며 가는게..... 나 울거야😭

  • @redfoxakame
    @redfoxakame 6 месяцев назад +1758

    "I love you. Live."
    That's all I heard from Ivan in the end.

    • @TinaShmina
      @TinaShmina 6 месяцев назад +122

      Saw a comment somewhere saying Till can live without Ivan but Ivan can’t without Till and it broke me (T n T)

    • @Saya-ng1sl
      @Saya-ng1sl 5 месяцев назад +57

      “Thank you for being a victim to my shallow emotions”

    • @Arkleio
      @Arkleio 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Saya-ng1sl is this perhaps a quote from somewhere?

    • @Lulu_0809
      @Lulu_0809 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@Arkleioit’s from a comic in Ivan’s perspective. You can find it on the official alien twt account or on this channel’s community tab. It was posted about 2-3 months ago the title is “confession” with the first photo being the back of Sua. Hope that helps!
      (Also sorry if I sent this twice, RUclips was acting up for me)

    • @Arkleio
      @Arkleio 5 месяцев назад

      @@Lulu_0809 thank you so much!

  • @holdinonion
    @holdinonion 8 месяцев назад +1404

    At 3:46 Ivan's smile basically said ''You finally looked at me'' IM CRYING

    • @chowfawn3
      @chowfawn3 8 месяцев назад +27

      im gonna cry 😭🙁

    • @밥념
      @밥념 8 месяцев назад +7

      OMG

    • @Kiro_printer
      @Kiro_printer 8 месяцев назад +17

      IM LITTERALLY PUJCHING THE WALL

    • @lazypotato582
      @lazypotato582 8 месяцев назад +25

      UR NOT INVITED TO MY IVANTILL BIRTHDAY PARTY

    • @minionsun31
      @minionsun31 8 месяцев назад +4

      Y si, ayyy lloro 😭😭😭

  • @Milk_Is_Me
    @Milk_Is_Me 14 дней назад +3

    i just noticed that at 3:41 Ivan smiles. HE LOVED TILL HOW COULD YOU DO THIS

  • @ain6782
    @ain6782 8 месяцев назад +17489

    His collar didn't explode, he just got shot so there's still chance he can be saved since he is also valuable to those alien. IVAN IS ALIVE (copium💀)
    Edit: Everyone in replies is TOTALLY SANE (me included) 😊😊😊

    • @Juliet.offcial
      @Juliet.offcial 8 месяцев назад +2039

      Exactly!! Hes not like certain angel we know like kaworu!!

    • @daley.doodles
      @daley.doodles 8 месяцев назад +2099

      I like the way you think (I'm delusional)

    • @dvjyyy
      @dvjyyy 8 месяцев назад +729

      I'm living for this

    • @hairytesticles1939
      @hairytesticles1939 8 месяцев назад

      PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE

    • @SB19andAtinWorldDomination
      @SB19andAtinWorldDomination 8 месяцев назад +1322

      I'M GONNA GASLIGHT MYSELF WITH THIS IDEA TYSM 😭

  • @tdf_worldkey6666
    @tdf_worldkey6666 8 месяцев назад +804

    Another thing to point put is that Till isnt chained any longer. All his life we see him chained up but the aliens recognize his vulnerability and weakness due to the missing/loss of mizi. His last fight is when the alien forces him to see her poster but after that hes put in the position of a pet. Docile and complacent. His hair is tamed. Hes collard and made presentable no longer the fighter he once was. He even plays the part of the duet onlt singing his part and letting ivan have his. Hes just a far cry from who hes been his entire life
    On the other side of that eveyone recognizes Ivan's sacrifice for till out of love but i think its that combined with the previous. Ivan loved to see Till's reactions he loved the attention he got when he provoked him and just in genral he liked his spirit and the death of that with the loss for mizi was just another blow to Ivan's one-sided love.
    Theyre singing to two different partners in two different states. Grief and acceptance. Song is straight fire too.

  • @violetshockflare9327
    @violetshockflare9327 8 месяцев назад +1326

    Ivan saying “cheer up” (a direct reference to the recent comic with the flower that has younger Till and Ivan) to Till in his interview knowing full well what he was planning to do is so vile for us.

    • @violetshockflare9327
      @violetshockflare9327 8 месяцев назад +239

      Also, very obsessed with the choice to switch Till’s outfit from white -> black and Ivan’s outfit from black -> white considering how their roles and actions got swapped. Till became grief stricken over Mizi and didn’t really fight against the aliens the way he usually did. Then you have Ivan, who was usually consistent in his performances and very obedient in regards to following rules, making the active choice to become “unpredictable” in the way Till usually was.

    • @toastchildart
      @toastchildart 8 месяцев назад +24

      @@violetshockflare9327 you're so so right omg

    • @Ms.Matcha-u2y
      @Ms.Matcha-u2y 8 месяцев назад +21

      thank you for this analysis I will throw up now thanks

    • @cina2218
      @cina2218 8 месяцев назад +6

      omg where do i read the comics?

    • @violetshockflare9327
      @violetshockflare9327 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@cina2218 They're on the official twitter or the community tab! Usually kind people will try to translate them in comments and replies, but I usually look into certain wording on some parts myself.

  • @ValeMiley9
    @ValeMiley9 16 дней назад +14

    do you think in his last seconds, when he started coughing up blood, ivan thought: yes, this is enough. i can let go now

    • @Gaylanwangji
      @Gaylanwangji 16 дней назад +1

      I think he said something like, "Wow, he finally looked at me." Or something similar

    • @ValeMiley9
      @ValeMiley9 16 дней назад +2

      @@Gaylanwangji yeah, when till opens his eyes as he falls, he probably thought something like that, but that moment is right before that - when ivan's hold on his neck slighlty tightens. like "okay, he is safe, i did enough" and then till looks at him and ivan goes like "oh he is looking at me" and i cry because i'm feeling sick in the heart x.x

  • @adamlyleenjoyer2958
    @adamlyleenjoyer2958 8 месяцев назад +1248

    I think this round is called "cure" because ivan brought light back to tills eyes and made him snap out of the "numbness"

    • @auxanelabanane
      @auxanelabanane 8 месяцев назад +112

      litteraly tho, Till's pupil expand before the kiss scene

    • @Maximizer280
      @Maximizer280 8 месяцев назад +11

      STOP

    • @marilingramajo1406
      @marilingramajo1406 8 месяцев назад +11

      dude i just realised, im about to cry

    • @jwashere3667
      @jwashere3667 8 месяцев назад +38

      the fact that them expanding either means youre high or attraction/fascination, in this case, till prolly experienced the latter, i am not okay. Plus, they also say that in low light, your pupils dilate to let in more light which makes this even heartbreaking bc till was depressed and ivan was basically his light

    • @jwashere3667
      @jwashere3667 8 месяцев назад +2

      i might be wrong but i refuse to get out of this delusion >:(

  • @xxx-xh8xr
    @xxx-xh8xr 2 месяца назад +7580

    rip ivan, you would have loved tills outfit in r7

    • @Livaestheticofc
      @Livaestheticofc 2 месяца назад +338

      LMAOO REALL

    • @kaika1._
      @kaika1._ 2 месяца назад +199

      ABSOLUTELY REAL

    • @junecapinpin
      @junecapinpin 2 месяца назад +114

      REALLL LMAOO

    • @Zahaveron
      @Zahaveron 2 месяца назад

      NO BC HOW DID WE GO FROM THIS TO R7 LUCAS ROUNDS ARE ABSOLUTELY DIABOLICAL

    • @briskaadet
      @briskaadet 2 месяца назад +278

      Vivi knew he would get too 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂

  • @Credit-card-simp
    @Credit-card-simp 8 месяцев назад +1851

    It seems to me this song shows the unreciprocated love of each other. Till is singing it for Mizi, he truly believes his reason to live is dead; (1:11) “On your icy lips,” alongside with the image of her in a white robe as a kid shows that she is a corpse-cold, which makes her have icy lips. He also mentions “Let me drown in you” (0:54) emphasizing “let me” because he can’t, she’s no longer there.
    Till on the other hand says “I’ll drown in you” (2:22) which shows he can drown, and he WILL drown, because Till is there, and he loves him.
    Other comments have said that Ivan is dressed as a Broom while Ivan is dressed like he’s going to a funeral because it SHOWS their dynamic, Ivan loves him, while Till is MOURNING for Mizi. The only reason why he is even singing is FOR Mizi, to relief himself. While Ivan is doing it to LOVE Till.
    I feel like Ivan’s sacrifice wasn’t planned, he SAW that Till had no will to continue singing, he had this twisted idea that Till was singing Ivan’s song as a duet (because he probably wrote it since he’s a fan favorite and has privileges) but Till stopped singing after “To this everlasting melody” (2:51) and didn’t sing “With our story” (2:59) “Lost in forever’s embrace” (3:04) because it isn’t their story, it’s not reciprocated. Which also explains why Ivan sung “Face to face WE dance” (2:54) because he truly believes this is a duet. ALSO (edit) it is come to my attention that the original song IS a duet (it’s on Vivinos page) and the part where Till stopped singing was THE START of the duet, which actually confirms that it is symbolism for unreciprocated love.
    Even after the kiss, they’re dynamic is furtherly emphasized in 3:33 because Ivan wants Till to LOOK at him one last time, as he is desperate and his eyes shaking show it, but Till is only mourning and accepting his fate by having his eyes close, finally believing that his pain will be relieved. That he will get his cure.
    However the one getting his cure instead is Ivan. It’s called Cure because by Ivan dying, his pain of not having his love returned is cured. It isn’t a sorrow anymore, it’s cured by his own death.

    • @borbattacc2251
      @borbattacc2251 8 месяцев назад +116

      This is such a good analysis and I’m crying even harder, love all of your guys’ thoughts on the most recent stage 😭

    • @Ms.Matcha-u2y
      @Ms.Matcha-u2y 8 месяцев назад +85

      CAN SOMEONE MAKE THIS TOP COMMENT??
      the "let me" vs. "I will" was JUST at the tip of my tongue!! I knew they symbolized the difference in perspective.
      "wearing black to symbolize Till mourning for Mizi" THEGASP I GUSPED
      "Till not singing the 'with our story' line" WHOA BECAUSE IN TILL'S EYES ITS NOT ABOUT HIM AND IVAN. HE'S SINGING FOR MIZI. Ivan singing "face to face WE dance" because he recognizes hes singing with and FOR Till. Oh god.
      "Till thinking he'll be cured from his pain by dying when it's Ivan who dies in the end instead, freed from his unrequited longing" WHAT. YOU'RE SO SICK. YOURE SICK AND TWISTED AND I SEE THIS. BRIGHT AND CLEAR.
      I want to add on that Ivan probably tried to "cure" Till as well. Ivan tried to get Till to respond but Till remains silent and compliant. Till couldn't see Ivan trying to bring his flame, his fighting spirit back to life (because he was closing his eyes.. lmao)
      Theyre so undeniably doomed, thank you for this analysis. I enjoyed it MUCH and LOTS and I will read it fifteen hundred times over thank you mwah

    • @Мерлин01
      @Мерлин01 8 месяцев назад +13

      Я сейчас задохнусь от слез после этого комментария. У вас глаз алмаз. Заметить такие мелкие детали...

    • @Maika-yr9wt
      @Maika-yr9wt 8 месяцев назад +3

      This analysis is so amazing oh my god!!! Thank youuu

    • @notaperson7986
      @notaperson7986 8 месяцев назад +10

      You've made me sadder with this in depth analysis 😭

  • @niniiswatching
    @niniiswatching 13 дней назад +3

    I can't handle angst, i kind of regret watching this series but at the same time is so good, so so good