As a support main ... I REALLY hate when I am trying to take high ground and the rest of the team is like ... naw, I like standing in the open on main.
This is why I play Lifeweaver more. You can chill in a safe spot and reach far, and use petal when snipers don't peek, pull the feeder tanks back (which usually just makes them feed harder). Also needs no aim.
Ikr it forces i feel like it sometimes forces you to take a less ideal position and because of it you can end up losing a fight have definitely had those type of games i feel you
It's so funny, half the time you get told to go Sombra and then the other half, if YOU ARE on Sombra, you get told you're not doing anything 🥲 Moral of the story, just play whatever you want; you can never please everyone
Ay, still, I'd rather not have characters like Ana in silver, cause it takes them 3 attempts to hit a teammate that stands still for them😂 You gotta be realistic and understand your capabilities. Characters like Mercy or Moira are not liked in high ranks for low output, but in low, they're better healers for the reason above. Same with widows, ashes, cass, etc.
@@Lilian040210 You can't play ana or widow etc in higher ranks if you got to those higher ranks playing mercy and moira. Play what you want to play and get better at the heroes you want to play. If they're in your rank playing those heroes that means they're the same rank as you. If you want better players on your team, get better at the game and climb.
that bastion sounds like the kind of player who yells at their supports and demands someone switch mercy after one death that was probably their own fault
it truly boggles my mind how this character is allowed to be played on anything but a last-ditch effort to not get rolled at the final moments. the way that blizzard keeps BUFFING this brain dead character is literally insane lmao. bastion meta ~season 6/7 whenever that was actually destroyed a lot of my love for the game at the time and i’ve never fully recovered even tho i got a lot better at countering him :( ANYWAY rant over lmao, thank you for allowing my soap box moment
@@JayBee-yq2yv nah, he's stupid, too. throws games for content, brainrot central. his whole gimmick was robot sounds while playing bastion but that got old and he doesn't have enough personality to fit in a single sheet of 1 ply tissue so there was nothing to fall back on besides memes and dragging other people in to carry him in games.
I notice that I am much better at attacking than defending, and I feel this player is the same. He knew where to position on attack way better than on defense.
Or you are playing quick play then you must play Sombra. Also the Bastion wanting the other DPS to go Sombra reminds me the days of 5 DPS and at least one of them demanding tanks and supps.
Yes, in metal ranks your teammates, and the enemy team; will often play down mid, but playing good position and playing smart will always help you out play, and outlast your opponents. Never underestimate good fundamentals. To play stupid because the other players at that rank plays stupid is as poor an excuse as using bad form when exercising. Your just gonna build bad habits and generate bad outcomes.
Yes but also even Emongg said of a tank is playing too aggro you better go together and have better chance at doing the stupid thing together than dying 1 by1. So 🤷♀️
I try to avoid using Sombra when I'm dps as I find her fun, but so annoying to deal with. However, if the other team picks Widow I'm swaping to Sombra until they swap off (which usually happens after a couple of deaths). I don't feel great about it, but widow is just as annoying to play against as sombra.
Good Widow players don't care about a single Sombra, sorry. Needs to be a minimum double swap, likely three (dps/tank or dps/dps/tank). Literally all the widow needs to do is have a headset and listen for the decloak/play closer to the team.
@@izab3ru as a masters widow main, pretty much. they aren't that hard to kill or spot but it does make me play a lil closer to my team so I get slightly less value I suppose
As a ball main, let me give you a tip. if you dont know the basics of sombra, its better stay on your best character. You would still need help to put down a good ball (not that i'm amazing, i'm mid at best and still easy to outplay bad/mid sombras).
That sensitivity chat resonates hard with me! I'm a Lucio/ball main on console, been playing almost since release and I still can't find a sensitivity that feels like a good compromise between movement and aim.
@Emongg Can't know the thought process but as someone who plays Plat I can probably guess. The bastion, ignoring the fact that they might not be that good at many heroes, likely thinks if they swap off bastion the Junkerqueen will be uncontested (along with the old low elo fallacy I have higher stats therefore I'm not the problem here) I see less of it in Plat but in general teams at low elo don't trust anyone playing "Sniper" on dps and if they arn't consistently diffing people start getting antsy about having them since they trade consistent output for aim dependent output (ignoring that you need aim, even on high burst damage projectile heroes, to get consistent elims) The other factor in play is the tracer not only is getting a ton of harassment early but also seems to have both sojourn and the support line completely distracted. One of the few things sombra does sometimes provide at plat and lower is an excellent deterrent to solo dives. You don't necessarily swap sombra to dive the widow (since it can be a mixed bag in Plat as to whether the enemy support line turtles around their widow enough to deny any solo dive attempt which you alluded to in saying that dealing with widow is usually a team effort) You play sombra so that when the tracer dives in she gets hit with an unexpected counterattack that threatens to disrupt her ability to disengage. Granted for that to work you either need to get the kill or the other dps needs to hard carry while you trade your time for the enemy tracer's. Now a sufficiently skilled tracer usually beats a skilled sombra but as long as you dont over pursue in Plat it should be sufficient to stop the tracer dead in her tracks and free up the supports to do their jobs. Not that I think the Bastion is thinking along those lines nor that I think it would be worth trying but at least in my own mind if a tracer is living rent free in the mind of sojourn who really ought to be focused on everything else in the lobby it might be worth swapping to a character that can more consistently peel her though sombra isn't exactly the first choice that comes to mind... more like option 3. Cassidy is better though maybe not against the rest of this comp... Mei is better but maybe not on this map. Of course... I don't understand playing bastion into tracer, widow period so... dudes with shallow hero pools shouldnt make character specific demands. or hero swap demands in general EDIT: Kind of like how they're trying to use tracer on push so... again I don't have a clue what Bastion's thought process is.
People are convinced sombra is super strong, is probably why. Very much the mindset of people who only played her when she was strong a little while ago. Or who have never played her. As a sombra main, I can tell you here it wouldn't have done anything. They were playing too close together, they had brig, they had torb. That's nightmare for a sombra.
Peoples dont react to her and then are like "Sombra shouldnt exist she is op" I mostly play brig and it's feel kinda easy to take care of her as long as one person doesn't ignore her
the first round would've been a great time to go sombra tho, that tracer was hyperaggressive and a single hack to them in your backline would mean their death, that creates a 4v5 where your team can either target the turret or you can hack it and tp without being tracked by tracer. some people say brig counters sombra but in order for brig to attack she can't use her shield, and if she is using her shield she isn't healing - so just knowing this and playing around it with a virus and making sure to shoot her only when her shield is down will likely result in her death, and if not she's likely to die bc you'd be behind them and she'd be shielding away from the rest of your team - which has the turret hacked/destoryed and the tracer dead. regardless after that tracer is dead its easy pickings, so i can see why they suggested Sombra at first. Sombra doesn't always have to be in the enemy backline, sometimes its best to play in your backline/frontline. Im a master sombra main who watches Questron religiously.
Then you'd know that if a sombra is playing frontline she's playing less effectively and at that point it's better to just have stuck with Sojourn/Tracer/Ashe. I wouldn't say there's a single thing a sombra can do in the frontline/their own teams backline that makes her a better choice than those three. Hack is too easy to interrupt. And if brig just flicks her shield once to block virus its pretty much gg. Unless sombra is very accurate. Brig has armor, and self heals. Any half decent brig is a dangerous target for a sombra not an easy pick. Especially if they're guarding their other support because then the other support will likely help them.
This is truly ALL OW2 players know. No matter who you are playing, they are going to think some character swap is gonna magically win you the game. Huge part of why this game is so fkn boring now.
their widow wasn’t even popping off, also they had a brig and their widow is playing low ground, going JUST sombra wouldn’t have done anything, in order to deal with a juno brig back line you’d have to full swap dive, not just a sombra. i wouldn’t expect a bastion player to understand that though when their characters hardest mechanic is well timed turret forms.
I had a support player the other day that told our dps that they were the problem because they needed to swap to Sombra. Meanwhile this support claimed that they were 100% not the problem, but played mercy the whole match. The irony was real, as if they thought our dps were not performing, then playing mercy is a dumb decision from their standpoint, you'd think. Anyways, after that match, I played a bit more and climbed three ranks. Bottom line, is don't listen to your Plat teammates when the pull this stuff. They are almost always as brain dead as they think you are.
The other day I went on dps (I'm a lucio main who despises mercy players) and I went on sombra and I targeted any mercy player any chance I get. I understand sombra is so frustrating to play against but it's very fun being able to target mercy players just like how supertf did in one of his videos when he couldn't play comp on his main. I don't feel bad mercy players deserve it LOL mercy players like to blame anyone but themselves when they are playing a useless hero with the most overpowered ability
This person mostly did ok, but one thing I’m surprised Emongg didn’t bring up more was non sensical ability usage. Especially ashe coach gun and soj slide.
The ONLY time I have ever said anything like switch characters was more of a oh I wish we didn't have a doomfist because the enemy keeps diving are back line 😕 he switched from hog to doom after I said that threw the defense even though we had 5 minutes on the clock to push for the tie breaker he switched to rein shield down and just charged :( (also it was placement matches on my off role as support still doing placements to this day because me and my duo haven't had time to sink up I am typically a gold dps and support and I want to say it was bronze because after that match I was predicted silver 5 lol so a bronze doom guess I should have just let them back flank us or learn to play brig (this season I'm ana and juno) and I may get hate but a sombra one trick dps who if needed can flex to bastion torb and sojourn
And ps the only person with the enemy team comp going from soujrn to sombra would be widow unless you are super super super comfortable with sombra imo
Bastion players don’t understand the fundamentals of OW. It’s a no brainer that Bastion will have more damage because his kit is designed to mindlessly shoot at the tank.
5:45 anyone else notice that the ammo counter for sojourns gun stays visible next to the crosshair when she dies on point there? Ive never seen that bug before.
@Lilian040210 it's the ammo counter on sojourns gun lingering after she's dead, and it completely disconnects from the rifle. Yeah, I'd say that's a bug, it really doesn't matter whether she's dead or not, it's a graphical error.
Just remove sombra from the game or just competitive she too strong and so enhance they keeps making her strong when there are players who need more rework every match, no one will missed her
As long as sombra is available, u should always use her to make the widow switch. Widows get tons of value uncontested. When the widow switch then u can switch back to who ever.
If the Widow’s the carry, sure. She wasn’t this game. The Queen/tracer were running the team down and were the reason they lost first round and a Sombra just loses against them and a Brig. You and the Bastion (ironically because this is a lobby of hell for a Bastion as he’s telling anyone else to switch) just have counterwatch brains and should learn to actually feel out the game.
@@thatonedude675exactly. the widow was just kinda there. she had maybe 2 fights where she popped off and instantly it’s oh you have to go sombra and clear out widow? Lol
The widow wasn’t even carrying. The JQ absolutely was though. That JQ was lighting up the kill feed. Interesting map for JQ but they made it work. I saw Winston only dive Widow one time otherwise that Widow was standing and sniping wherever she wanted. I think the Widow swapped for their own reasons. Sombra wasn’t even necessary.
@@thatonedude675 u proved my point, twisted it by saying "she wasn't this game", then tried to take shots? U counter the widow with Sombra simple. Jus because this widow sucks in THIS GAME doesn't invalidate my point. Also if u have a problem with counterwatch, don't play overwatch because that's literally part of the game. My bad correction, that's a part of every game.
@@wswann34the bronze is strong in that entire post. I counter often, but unlike you countering a single character and ignoring everyone else on the team, I counter situations. I would never Sombra swap for a widow not doing anything only to run into a team grouped together with multiple Sombra counters because I’m not a dumbass unlike someone else in this conversation. You would take yourself out of the entire round because you have reptile brain and just see a character existing and go “MusT COunTeR”.
As a support main ... I REALLY hate when I am trying to take high ground and the rest of the team is like ... naw, I like standing in the open on main.
This is why I play Lifeweaver more. You can chill in a safe spot and reach far, and use petal when snipers don't peek, pull the feeder tanks back (which usually just makes them feed harder). Also needs no aim.
Ikr it forces i feel like it sometimes forces you to take a less ideal position and because of it you can end up losing a fight have definitely had those type of games i feel you
It's so funny, half the time you get told to go Sombra and then the other half, if YOU ARE on Sombra, you get told you're not doing anything 🥲 Moral of the story, just play whatever you want; you can never please everyone
Ay, still, I'd rather not have characters like Ana in silver, cause it takes them 3 attempts to hit a teammate that stands still for them😂 You gotta be realistic and understand your capabilities. Characters like Mercy or Moira are not liked in high ranks for low output, but in low, they're better healers for the reason above. Same with widows, ashes, cass, etc.
Play whatever you want....except Sombra! She is so freaking annoying and maybe cheap
@@Lilian040210 You can't play ana or widow etc in higher ranks if you got to those higher ranks playing mercy and moira. Play what you want to play and get better at the heroes you want to play. If they're in your rank playing those heroes that means they're the same rank as you. If you want better players on your team, get better at the game and climb.
No don’t play whatever you want , learn the characters you hate facing so you can manage their timing
This mindset is probably why you're not good
I love it when people tell you to switch instead of just switching themselves when it would "win the game"
Narcissistic right 😂 bet if the bastion switched to sombra he would of got fuckin rolled
Bastion players are trash lol. They have one of the biggest no brain extremely noob friendly absurdly high DPS trash character in existence
that bastion sounds like the kind of player who yells at their supports and demands someone switch mercy after one death that was probably their own fault
Ive learned to never listen to what a bastion player says. That character is designed for people that barely understand what is happening in game.
Agreed I have heard many stupid bastion main takes (not the actual bastion main like the top 500 just like bastion mains in general.)
To be fair, bastionmain is the first person to admit that you probably shouldn't trust his ideas.
it truly boggles my mind how this character is allowed to be played on anything but a last-ditch effort to not get rolled at the final moments. the way that blizzard keeps BUFFING this brain dead character is literally insane lmao. bastion meta ~season 6/7 whenever that was actually destroyed a lot of my love for the game at the time and i’ve never fully recovered even tho i got a lot better at countering him :( ANYWAY rant over lmao, thank you for allowing my soap box moment
I play Cass reap and bastion and I totally agree for metal ranks
@@JayBee-yq2yv nah, he's stupid, too. throws games for content, brainrot central. his whole gimmick was robot sounds while playing bastion but that got old and he doesn't have enough personality to fit in a single sheet of 1 ply tissue so there was nothing to fall back on besides memes and dragging other people in to carry him in games.
I notice that I am much better at attacking than defending, and I feel this player is the same. He knew where to position on attack way better than on defense.
I am the same way!
Or you are playing quick play then you must play Sombra.
Also the Bastion wanting the other DPS to go Sombra reminds me the days of 5 DPS and at least one of them demanding tanks and supps.
I do the opposite. I only go sombra in qp if a loser is playing sombra spawn camping ppl
Flashbacks to the Throwverwatch cartoon: Zen asking, may we please not have 5 DPS?
@@kingofgrim4761 i go sombra because that's who i have the most hours in (250ish).. and get flamed just when i want to have a meme game
Yeah that Bastion definitely should've swapped
Yes, in metal ranks your teammates, and the enemy team; will often play down mid, but playing good position and playing smart will always help you out play, and outlast your opponents. Never underestimate good fundamentals.
To play stupid because the other players at that rank plays stupid is as poor an excuse as using bad form when exercising. Your just gonna build bad habits and generate bad outcomes.
Yes but also even Emongg said of a tank is playing too aggro you better go together and have better chance at doing the stupid thing together than dying 1 by1. So 🤷♀️
How to tell the guy only plays bastion without him saying he only plays bastion:
Bro has probably never seen any other heroes kit in his life
I try to avoid using Sombra when I'm dps as I find her fun, but so annoying to deal with. However, if the other team picks Widow I'm swaping to Sombra until they swap off (which usually happens after a couple of deaths). I don't feel great about it, but widow is just as annoying to play against as sombra.
Good Widow players don't care about a single Sombra, sorry. Needs to be a minimum double swap, likely three (dps/tank or dps/dps/tank). Literally all the widow needs to do is have a headset and listen for the decloak/play closer to the team.
@@izab3ru as a masters widow main, pretty much. they aren't that hard to kill or spot but it does make me play a lil closer to my team so I get slightly less value I suppose
As a ball main, let me give you a tip. if you dont know the basics of sombra, its better stay on your best character. You would still need help to put down a good ball (not that i'm amazing, i'm mid at best and still easy to outplay bad/mid sombras).
That sensitivity chat resonates hard with me! I'm a Lucio/ball main on console, been playing almost since release and I still can't find a sensitivity that feels like a good compromise between movement and aim.
@Emongg Can't know the thought process but as someone who plays Plat I can probably guess. The bastion, ignoring the fact that they might not be that good at many heroes, likely thinks if they swap off bastion the Junkerqueen will be uncontested (along with the old low elo fallacy I have higher stats therefore I'm not the problem here)
I see less of it in Plat but in general teams at low elo don't trust anyone playing "Sniper" on dps and if they arn't consistently diffing people start getting antsy about having them since they trade consistent output for aim dependent output (ignoring that you need aim, even on high burst damage projectile heroes, to get consistent elims)
The other factor in play is the tracer not only is getting a ton of harassment early but also seems to have both sojourn and the support line completely distracted. One of the few things sombra does sometimes provide at plat and lower is an excellent deterrent to solo dives. You don't necessarily swap sombra to dive the widow (since it can be a mixed bag in Plat as to whether the enemy support line turtles around their widow enough to deny any solo dive attempt which you alluded to in saying that dealing with widow is usually a team effort) You play sombra so that when the tracer dives in she gets hit with an unexpected counterattack that threatens to disrupt her ability to disengage.
Granted for that to work you either need to get the kill or the other dps needs to hard carry while you trade your time for the enemy tracer's.
Now a sufficiently skilled tracer usually beats a skilled sombra but as long as you dont over pursue in Plat it should be sufficient to stop the tracer dead in her tracks and free up the supports to do their jobs.
Not that I think the Bastion is thinking along those lines nor that I think it would be worth trying but at least in my own mind if a tracer is living rent free in the mind of sojourn who really ought to be focused on everything else in the lobby it might be worth swapping to a character that can more consistently peel her though sombra isn't exactly the first choice that comes to mind... more like option 3. Cassidy is better though maybe not against the rest of this comp... Mei is better but maybe not on this map.
Of course... I don't understand playing bastion into tracer, widow period so... dudes with shallow hero pools shouldnt make character specific demands. or hero swap demands in general
EDIT: Kind of like how they're trying to use tracer on push so... again I don't have a clue what Bastion's thought process is.
he has addressed this before and he tries his best
People are convinced sombra is super strong, is probably why. Very much the mindset of people who only played her when she was strong a little while ago. Or who have never played her. As a sombra main, I can tell you here it wouldn't have done anything. They were playing too close together, they had brig, they had torb. That's nightmare for a sombra.
Peoples dont react to her and then are like "Sombra shouldnt exist she is op" I mostly play brig and it's feel kinda easy to take care of her as long as one person doesn't ignore her
the first round would've been a great time to go sombra tho, that tracer was hyperaggressive and a single hack to them in your backline would mean their death, that creates a 4v5 where your team can either target the turret or you can hack it and tp without being tracked by tracer.
some people say brig counters sombra but in order for brig to attack she can't use her shield, and if she is using her shield she isn't healing - so just knowing this and playing around it with a virus and making sure to shoot her only when her shield is down will likely result in her death, and if not she's likely to die bc you'd be behind them and she'd be shielding away from the rest of your team - which has the turret hacked/destoryed and the tracer dead.
regardless after that tracer is dead its easy pickings, so i can see why they suggested Sombra at first.
Sombra doesn't always have to be in the enemy backline, sometimes its best to play in your backline/frontline.
Im a master sombra main who watches Questron religiously.
the tracer was over extending the entire first round completely away from the brig and turret?
Then you'd know that if a sombra is playing frontline she's playing less effectively and at that point it's better to just have stuck with Sojourn/Tracer/Ashe. I wouldn't say there's a single thing a sombra can do in the frontline/their own teams backline that makes her a better choice than those three. Hack is too easy to interrupt.
And if brig just flicks her shield once to block virus its pretty much gg. Unless sombra is very accurate. Brig has armor, and self heals. Any half decent brig is a dangerous target for a sombra not an easy pick. Especially if they're guarding their other support because then the other support will likely help them.
@@gamingbean6440 also brig just throw 2 packs at sombra target and it's fine
This is truly ALL OW2 players know. No matter who you are playing, they are going to think some character swap is gonna magically win you the game.
Huge part of why this game is so fkn boring now.
Lower ranked people need to listen to this 9:33
They will not listen to anything. They will stand in the middle of the middle 1v5ing and blame heals
@@Lilian040210 you don't know how right you are
their widow wasn’t even popping off, also they had a brig and their widow is playing low ground, going JUST sombra wouldn’t have done anything, in order to deal with a juno brig back line you’d have to full swap dive, not just a sombra. i wouldn’t expect a bastion player to understand that though when their characters hardest mechanic is well timed turret forms.
I also like the ultra watch weapon skin for sojourne. I also use this skin
Don't let a one trick who play a c- hero gaslight you lmao, he's in plat for a reason💀
I wanted to see what he was doing during the match. I think the person that we were spectating deserves below plat.
This sojourn in plat for a reason too 💀
I had a support player the other day that told our dps that they were the problem because they needed to swap to Sombra. Meanwhile this support claimed that they were 100% not the problem, but played mercy the whole match. The irony was real, as if they thought our dps were not performing, then playing mercy is a dumb decision from their standpoint, you'd think. Anyways, after that match, I played a bit more and climbed three ranks. Bottom line, is don't listen to your Plat teammates when the pull this stuff. They are almost always as brain dead as they think you are.
The other day I went on dps (I'm a lucio main who despises mercy players) and I went on sombra and I targeted any mercy player any chance I get. I understand sombra is so frustrating to play against but it's very fun being able to target mercy players just like how supertf did in one of his videos when he couldn't play comp on his main. I don't feel bad mercy players deserve it LOL
mercy players like to blame anyone but themselves when they are playing a useless hero with the most overpowered ability
This person mostly did ok, but one thing I’m surprised Emongg didn’t bring up more was non sensical ability usage. Especially ashe coach gun and soj slide.
It’s always a you sombra, bastion, mauga, but never how are you doing today 😔
Sooooo.... alright
Btw if you get pulse bombed on brig and you hold up your shield you’ll live. Same if dva drops her mech on you
ALRIGHT SO
Everyone says "alright, so!" But, never "So, you alright?!" 😢
@@D_Jillayou’re so right 😪
The ONLY time I have ever said anything like switch characters was more of a oh I wish we didn't have a doomfist because the enemy keeps diving are back line 😕 he switched from hog to doom after I said that threw the defense even though we had 5 minutes on the clock to push for the tie breaker he switched to rein shield down and just charged :( (also it was placement matches on my off role as support still doing placements to this day because me and my duo haven't had time to sink up I am typically a gold dps and support and I want to say it was bronze because after that match I was predicted silver 5 lol so a bronze doom guess I should have just let them back flank us or learn to play brig (this season I'm ana and juno) and I may get hate but a sombra one trick dps who if needed can flex to bastion torb and sojourn
But I never blame just 1 person in a match especially in lower lobbies lol
And ps the only person with the enemy team comp going from soujrn to sombra would be widow unless you are super super super comfortable with sombra imo
Bastion players don’t understand the fundamentals of OW. It’s a no brainer that Bastion will have more damage because his kit is designed to mindlessly shoot at the tank.
ive 10% higher on vertical and horisontal on ana compared to all other heroes so i can aim quicker when im scoped, ad it works for me
Bro you look like a strategic DAN-TDM.
isnt atr a r34 drawer????
No views in 10 seconds is actually okay
I have far lower sens for cass, ash, and juno
AAAALLLLRIGHT SO
5:45 anyone else notice that the ammo counter for sojourns gun stays visible next to the crosshair when she dies on point there? Ive never seen that bug before.
Is it? A bug? It's a charge counter, I don't think it's a problem when you're dead anyway 😅
@Lilian040210 it's the ammo counter on sojourns gun lingering after she's dead, and it completely disconnects from the rifle. Yeah, I'd say that's a bug, it really doesn't matter whether she's dead or not, it's a graphical error.
Just remove sombra from the game or just competitive she too strong and so enhance they keeps making her strong when there are players who need more rework every match, no one will missed her
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They need to rework sombra again, make her a support and do less damage
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As long as sombra is available, u should always use her to make the widow switch. Widows get tons of value uncontested. When the widow switch then u can switch back to who ever.
If the Widow’s the carry, sure. She wasn’t this game. The Queen/tracer were running the team down and were the reason they lost first round and a Sombra just loses against them and a Brig. You and the Bastion (ironically because this is a lobby of hell for a Bastion as he’s telling anyone else to switch) just have counterwatch brains and should learn to actually feel out the game.
@@thatonedude675exactly. the widow was just kinda there. she had maybe 2 fights where she popped off and instantly it’s oh you have to go sombra and clear out widow? Lol
The widow wasn’t even carrying. The JQ absolutely was though. That JQ was lighting up the kill feed. Interesting map for JQ but they made it work. I saw Winston only dive Widow one time otherwise that Widow was standing and sniping wherever she wanted. I think the Widow swapped for their own reasons. Sombra wasn’t even necessary.
@@thatonedude675 u proved my point, twisted it by saying "she wasn't this game", then tried to take shots? U counter the widow with Sombra simple. Jus because this widow sucks in THIS GAME doesn't invalidate my point. Also if u have a problem with counterwatch, don't play overwatch because that's literally part of the game. My bad correction, that's a part of every game.
@@wswann34the bronze is strong in that entire post. I counter often, but unlike you countering a single character and ignoring everyone else on the team, I counter situations. I would never Sombra swap for a widow not doing anything only to run into a team grouped together with multiple Sombra counters because I’m not a dumbass unlike someone else in this conversation.
You would take yourself out of the entire round because you have reptile brain and just see a character existing and go “MusT COunTeR”.
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