Trills don't have to be so terrifying (ft. Robert Durso)
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2022
- In this live event, Robert Durso draws from his expertise on the Taubman Approach to piano technique to tackle one of the perennial challenges facing pianists: trills!
Featuring a Q&A with Dominic Cheli following the presentation. Join the chat and submit your trill-questions!
Watch Durso's extended lesson on the basic principles of the Taubman Approach: app.tonebase.co/piano/home?tb...
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Robert.you are one of the most knoledgable educators we have in all tehcnical aspects related to the piano. But I appeal to you to expanad your formidable knowledge and make musicality your chief goal. As an example, in your your video on trills, you dash through the opening of the Pathetique all on one level of dynamic-mf. The largest problem apart from choreographic understand is being able to play the opening passage without making a crescendo. That complicates matters. So you need to give us further information. You can do this. The same for the finale of the Moonlight Sonata. Your virtuosity is astonishing, butinthe end the passages have to be piano. Please embrace this concept in your formidable workshops.
Seymour BErnstein
8:12 seat height
8:43 rotation
10:09 minimizing
10:41 rotation and minimizing continued
12:09 Alberti bass
Clear explanations. You are a great teacher Mr. Robert Durso! Thank you so much.
Thank you Mr. Durso, for posting these videos,
they have helped me more than I can say...
This is so great! I've always had nightmares about trills and tremelos this video has help immensely!
This lecture was amazing. Thank you so much!
title of the video: trills don’t have to be terrifying…….
video is one hour long
me: that is terrifying
Bob is ma boy definitely a great teacher, hope he comes back soon god bless ol' miss Taubman and ma gurl Edna
Edna was a great educator also on weight and body engagement . Abby Whiteside also gave us all a great introduction of the biological system !
@@MrInterestingthings Edna was a G
This was so interesting. Thank you Mister Durso, thank you Tonebase! 👏👏
Como siempre, muy claros conceptos del Prof. Durso.
A very useful subject. I have always had the greatest fear with trills and Alberti bass of tensing up which of course leads to temporary paralysis. I too eventually came to the conclusion also that forearm rotation was needed to be mixed with finger movement and you can work yourself into it slowly as shown. Also playing trills with alternate not next door fingers helps.
I usually release tension further at the beginning of the process by initially not even playing legato and maybe using the pedal in support. I start trills slowly not worrying about finger legato from a position about half an inch ABOVE the keyboard and sink down into it gradually into legato as I repeat them and speed up.
To produce easy relaxed Alberti bass I do the same but in this case I just rock to and fro detached rotating only several times popping the thumb down when the thumb is automatic. If you can get this sufficiently relaxed you can play Alberti at double speed (to demisemiquavers 32nds or further) so it is no longer just connected with Mozartian style but can add further movement and depth of harmony even to simulated romantic music.
This is the most useful piano lesson I've had since college. I will be practicing every example over the next few weeks;) I might post some videos of those sessions, but meh....maybe, maybe not;) I don't know if anyone wants to see that, lol.
I have played the piano for 75 years and my roster of teachers is more impressive than my playing. And yet I really learned some things from this video. Excellent.
Bravo for proving that one can play with an entirely collapsed first joint of the finger and still manage!
I would trade time off my life for someone to examine how to apply the Taubman approach to the pedal harp. Managing the ring fingers and avoiding injury on the harp is so hard, and so many of the technique schools are as rigid as a Procrustean bed.
thank you so much
40:25 :) coming back to this
sorry to ask but what is a "notschlug" mentioned at 26:16. Thanks
A ‘Nachschlag’ are the auxiliary closing note or notes played at the end of a trill…in other words, the ‘little turn’ at the end!
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*tonebase:* "Trills don't have to be so terrifying".
*Brahms:* opens the score of 1st piano concerto mvt1 to bb. 111 & 116 and laughs!
The trills in the Brahms D Minor Concerto (1st movement) absolutely call for the use of rotation; the only other option is to open a savings account for physiotherapist sessions haha!
@@ProfDrislane I hope you've not discovered the only two options available by personal experience!
@@BsktImp No, I was simply joking! I was fortunate enough to have teachers who were aware of the role of rotation:)
The echo....
I haven't heard any Taubman people play well. Maybe they're free of aches and pains but do they play well? Not really. My prescription for trills is pretty simple. 1. Don't tense up. 2. (optional) you can play faster if you let the keys come up only 80%, the downside is it's less loud. 3. You really don't need to trill fast at top speed. Can you play a slow trill that sounds good. Most can't. Make your trills musical instead of just loud and fast. Since I'm here what's the best way to improve your technique? Always be relaxed. Practice pieces slightly below your technical ability and play them to a higher degree of perfection than you would otherwise.
How come there isn't one single really successful pianist talking about his positive experience with the Taubman approach? I have yet to hear a Taubman disciple play the piano really well on concert level.
To me, this is just a scam of tricking people into buying into a guru-proven philosophy that doesn't have any fact-based research behind it. I mean, has anyone ever heard Dorothy Taubman play the piano on a truly professional level?
There you go.
Your skepticism would be understandable....but it is argument-free. Do you have any suggestions at all, or even better ones, on the subject of trills?
@@rettigmichael As a start you could simply refrain from ad hominem attacks towards people whose attitude and comments you dislike. In a second step you could simply start reading up the writings of Grigory Ginsburg, György Sandór and Heinrich Neuheus plus a scientifically sound and approved book on physiology.
Apart from that:
How come there isn't one single really successful pianist talking about his positive experience with the Taubman approach? I have yet to hear a Taubman disciple play the piano really well on concert level.
To me, this is just a scam of tricking people into buying into a guru-proven philosophy that doesn't have any fact-based research behind it. I mean, has anyone ever heard Dorothy Taubman play the piano on a truly professional level?
There you go.
Did you ever listen Robert Durso playing? I think you didn't. Besides, the Golansaky Institute organizes concert series, maybe that is the start point for you.
Empty criticism is just opinion. And so it is far away from being professional.
@@laukunst Spare me your evangelism. Durso is a preacher and there isn't a single major piece that he performs, neither in studio, let alone in a live recital. He has exactly 9 videos online, all of the promoting the scam institution. Be happy with whatever floats your boat, but I have obviously read more than just one book on piano playing - which I have cited. You, however, couldn't be bothered to look the even up, instead you preach the Taubman scam all over again and call critics unprofessional, hiding behind a stupid screen name.
@@OE1FEU another aggressive and empty comment. You don"t know how many books I have read neither who my teacher were, or anything. Please try to be respectful. And share your videos, lectures, books. and recordings please, so you can enlighten us.
my god its such an unmusical and unatural approach to piano playing !
How so?