I had a very similar situation happen with my daughter at school, I got called to the office and they said my kid was fighting and that's all they would say. So I got down there and asked what exactly happened. They told me this little boy pushed my daughter to the ground and smooshed her face in the ground and ran away and (apparently they let that go) then the kid got on a slide and as he came down the slide my daughter waited for him at the bottom and spartan kicked him in the chest. The dumbfounded look on their face when I said good for her. They said they would suspend her for 3 days, and I said that's fine because there is no punishment they can give her that will be equal to the reward I'm going to give her for standing up for herself. I took her to Dave and Buster's right after that and then we went to a theme park the next day because I was off work and we had time. I also had a long talk with her about how violence is not always the answer but there are times when you have to stand up for yourself because no one is going to do it for you. I let her know if she was in the wrong and being a bully I would scold her harder than any teacher could but if she was in the right I would always have her back.
It's cool to know there are still real parents out there.Your daughter is one lucky girl. Her entire life will be effected by this.......for the better. Keep up the good work. If possible, get involved with other kids as well. There are so many that need guidance. Your post brought a HUGE smile to my old face. Thanks!
I hope you also taught her that once shes older and that boy becomes a man, it would be wise to walk away and live to fight another day. Let another man know what happened or the police. Ive always taught my girls to defend themselves but I also have taught them to never put your hands on a man because the majority of men can end your life with their bare hands.
Frank Mir has always been an extremely intelligent and carried logic and common sense well!! I echo everything he says in this interview. Todays American society is quite depressing.
Mir is an absolute treasure as a martial arts ambassador, hes a beast very well trained and he could be a menace to society if he wanted to. Instead he advocates for the positives of learning how to fight and being an effective martial artist
This makes me think of what happened in a newly established wildlife park in Africa. The rangers kept finding injured and sometimes dead rhinos on their morning patrols. It wasn’t poachers because the horns were left alone. After setting up camera traps around water holes they found out what was happening. Adolescent male elephants were acting very aggressive and were the ones targeting the rhinos. The park staff realized that there had been severe poaching in the region and as a result there were no large dominant bull elephants remaining. The young, hormone-charged males were being rejected by the adult females and were essentially taking out their frustrations and excess energy on the rhinos. The situation was completely resolved upon the relocation of a group of dominant bulls from another park with a healthy population. Moral of the story is it matters to have consequences for your behavior.
No good deed goes unpunished. Sad but true. I've had firsthand experience of that terrible injustice. But I'd rather stand up and fight for those being bullied again, than look away and act like on one's getting hurt around me. My conscience wouldn't let me. Stand up for what's right, even if you feel like you're standing alone. You're not. Someone will have your back, because courage is contagious.
I thought the same thing almost spent 5 years in jail and 40000 in lawyer fees. If you put someone in the hospital your going to jail, or paying a shit load of money. Walk away
@@tonypadula8658 What state are you in? Plenty of people use deadly force for self defense or defense of others and it never goes to court so I am curious as to what transpired and where
Great comment, I see a lot of people who say now days it's not worth it to step in but that's BS. If an innocent person is in danger any man should step up regardless of the consequences. I've gotten in between an elderly lady and a dude twice my size and on meth. I was shaking scared and thank God he didn't swing (California at the time so I was unarmed). Even if I had my ass handed to me and was put into the hospital then jail, I would still be able to look myself in the mirror. As for legal consequences, I have USCCA insurance which brings great peace of mind - hopefully I never have to use it.
I absolutely believe its the right answer. My son in 8th grade at the time was jumped by two kids for standing up for another student in the gym that happened to be gay. My son approached him and told him to quit that if they wanna bully somebody bully him. So once my son turned his back the kid hit him in the neck with a jump rope so my son turned around and took the jump rope from him and decided to start kickin this kids ass. So this kid came up from behind and punched my son in the face my son turned and as he did elbowed the other kid in the jaw dropped him inmediately. Gym teacher broke it up. My son gets suspended for a week because he hurt the 2 kids the one he elbowed had damn near had his jaw broken and the other kid was slightly bloody not bad but enough to teach him a lesson. My son had a big ass welt on his neck from the jump rope my son was 6'1 at the time he is now almost 17 and 6'5. But these kids started it and my son finished it period. The other two kids got a 1 day suspension. I said to hell with it lets go to gatlinburg for vacation a few days early then. My son wasnt punished at home in fact I told him its ok to stand up to bullies if that happens again and you get suspended ill handle it.
In PG County Maryland, i used to get suspended fighting in school. Usually three days, sometimes five days. Would go work landscaping and building sundecks with my dad during the down time. It has to be that way, if you fight, whether you are justified or not, do the crime, do the time. Sometimes you just gotta take one for the team. People can make up all kinds of stories, flip the script and make you the bully, or straight up lie to make it like you are the aggressor, so it is better to punish both people equally, like no fault accident states for vehicle insurance. Otherwise you get these identity politics weenies getting one day suspensions because they were the best liar, or the administrator who is writing the suspension has the same identity as the perps. Just smash them and take your administrative lickings like a man.
He just put into the most articulated set of words that I wish I could say I’ve been thinking exactly what he just said for the longest time and it is 100% truth of the way. This country is without a doubt without a doubt.
absolutely! ive been struggling with this my whole life. i don't put up with bullies never have but i find myself getting in trouble all the time for standing up for myself and punishing bad behavior all the while the bullies and disrespectful punks in this world get away with everything and im treated like the bad guy for defending myself.
Or maybe you come off as a judgmental asshole who doesn’t know how to mind his own business, draw heat, then wonder why you getting the smoke all the time? Brah, i get it, but just let it go, it’s not worth it. Retire already, the time of the White Knight is over. Let them eat cake. I did eight years on a fifteen handling a Hawaiian bullie on Maui out in Kaupo who was beating up women and dragging them across the ground. Do you think they came to my defense in court? No, in fact they turned me in to crime stoppers for the $1K reward, stiffed me on an ounce of my jungle guerrilla grown organic pakalolo, and testified against me in court for the prosecution. LET THEM EAT CAKE 🍰
Don’t be so easily offended. You will find conflict will not seek you out as often. Use humor to diffuse situations, and assume the other person is going through something that is making them act like a punk, jerk, bully, or fuknut. Give them the benefit of the doubt. It’s a misunderstanding. We cannot assume other people’s intentions, so cut them some slack, nobody is perfect. See them as empty vessels like a boat in the water that hits you broadside, but has no captain to pilot it. You will find Grace will take you farther in life than judgement calls. You are not the judge, the jury, or the executioner. Live an let live. We are all imperfect assholes. Give them your highest grace. I promise it works. Southern Style Kill them with kindness. 🤙🏻
Totally agree with Frank. When my daughter was about 12, just when girls are starting puberty & getting boobs, there was a boy a bit older throwing the girls on the ground & grabbing their chest/boobs. My daughter was doing martial arts & was one of the top girls in her age group in Australia at the time. He did it to my daughter & she told him to stop doing it, he did it again & she told him to stop again, he tried a third time & my daughter put him in a wrist lock - painful & humiliating but no damage. Let him go when a teacher finally arrived. I get a phone call at work - my daughter’s in trouble for "using karate at school". I drive the 45 minutes & get to the school & see my daughter sitting outside the Principal’s office. Ask her what happened, no bullshit or exaggeration, & she told me the story. I go into the office & the Principal is telling me that my daughter’s suspended & will be lucky if they let her go back. I asked him if he knew the full story & he assured me he did. I asked what punishment the boy was receiving & he said he’d "been counselled" because his father was well respected in the Catholic community (this is a Catholic school). I pulled my phone out & started to dial a number & he asked what I was doing? Told him I was calling the police to report that my daughter had been sexually assaulted at the school & the Principal was covering it up. He freaked & begged me not to make the call. I told him the boy had better be suspended for a month, made to do recess & lunch detention for the rest of the year to protect all the girls & my daughter would not be suspended or punished at all. He accepted those conditions. When the boy got back to school he started bragging about his holiday & 2 of the boys who did martial arts with my daughters overheard. They were top of their age group in Australia at the time & got hold of him in the toilets & gave him a real beating. They told him if he told anyone who did it he’d get beaten every day for the rest of the school year. I only know because I heard he’d been beaten up & the school had no idea how it had happened. I had a guess & asked them about it & they told me they’d been questioned by the Principal but denied it & none of the kids at the school would answer any questions about it. That family moved away from town about 9 months later because everybody had heard about the kid sexually assaulting the girls, "getting beat up by the girl" & people started asking if he did it because that’s how his father treated his mother.
Franks always been a fav. Tough and a lefty too. So true what he’s saying. My sons gone through it and his head is held high. No remorse. No fear. Just proud Humble but confident. Franks a Legend. Support from 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I spotted Mr. Mir at Disneyland with his family a few years ago. I couldn't resist asking him for a photo when he got off of a ride a little bit ahead of his family. He was very gracious and took the time to take a picture with me. He's a gentleman and a savage.
Frank Mir is one of my all time favorites not just for his skills but for his mind and commentary. I’m so glad he made it through his career and kept his sharpness.
I agree 100% based on common sense as well as martial artist , a former fighter and retired cop. The world is crazy! This is training people to be victims!
Here in Eurostrash if you see a rape and go violently stop it, you might charged with attacking a person, another thing is you cant defend property with excessive violence with is excessive? Well thats court to decide but somebody wants your wallet you cant knockout the dude. At least in the states if somebody puts their hands on you you can defend yourself.
Amen. Very well said. It's an overall cultural problem in our country, that ppl are allowed to act like shit-heads, be abusive, threatening to others... but if you try to intervene you will most likely be the one getting in trouble.
Mr in-between moment Group therapist: "there's always gonna be assholes Ray" Ray: " and why do you think that is? because people let them get away with it."
An athlete at my daughter’s school got the snot beat out of him because he refused to fight back against a bully due to the fear of being kicked out of his sport if he got into a fight. Kids are taught to not fight back. I told my daughter she will never get in trouble for defending herself. Hit the bully hard and fast !!! Don’t give up
I think bullies are vital. For good or bad I was bullied and it made me who I am. It's kind lf like life you either keep letting letting happen or u stand up for yourself cause no one else is going to
@@erickiyoshiphillips2323bullies also make people kill themselves. Just be a good person and protect your fellow person if someone is being a piece of shit to them!!Bullies aren’t vital, they’re weak ass bitches! Come me bully!!
Dude I had a similar situation! My son also did same thing and got sucker punched! He put kin in a choke hold until the administration broke it up! I had a spirited conversation with the principal and school resource deputy! Got suspension reduced to 5 days! This is BS. Everyone knows it! I told my son to never compromise on his morals or integrity and of the situation arises again to do the same thing and I will handle to cops! He did nothing wrong but defend an innocent kid from a bully! Side note :said bully was arrested and expelled not two weeks later for drunk possession and a knife on campus! Bravo lmfaooo
I hear this a lot from the US. Would the way to game the no violence policy not be to use evasive footwork or clinch the attacker and tie him up till folks break it up. That way only he used violence and gets punished and they can't penalize you for evading or clinching???
For an in-depth and incredible analysis of what Frank Mir's discussing. I recommend the essay "On the Bully's Pulpit" by David Graeber. The fact that 'it doesn't matter who started it' is a thing in schools reflects how it's more about convenience for the administrators than actual justice. Still though, the literature on violence and non-violence (including definitions) is a rich topic.
My son got in his first fight in 7th grade. He trained and was never the aggressor. Unprovoked a kid attacked him and he dropped the kid. His friends group happened to be walking ahead and did not see the fight. Because of the anti bully indoctrination in the schools his friends didn’t want to know what really happened and turned their backs on my son. Overnight he lost all his friends.
You son should be happy. He lost a lot of fake friends and will make new friends. I had something similar happen to me when I was in my early 20’s and it sucked at first losing my friends but now in my early 30’s I couldn’t be happier that I lost those friends.
One of the best examples of what is appropriate for defending yourself I’ve seen. I’ve been telling my children since they were old enough to go to school- that if someone is trying to hurt you, then you have no alternative but to defend yourself. Teaching children it’s wrong to defend themselves is completely disgusting, opens them up to abuse from adults and other kids as well as creates a harmful mindset growing into an adult. My children have always known that just because a teacher or school has to suspend them for defending themselves - that’s the government introducing policy that is wrong. It is never wrong, adult or child to make sure someone stops trying to harm you. The way Frank delivers this is just an amazing, well spoken and common sense approach to something that every parent should have with their child.
I agree 100% they are teaching kids not to fight back when honestly it's necessary sometimes. It's good to stand up for the people you love and yourself of course. Weird how the world works
In the country where I live, we teach the boys that violence is AN INSTRUMENT: It should never be regarded as an end goal within and by itself. One's survival is the ultimate objective, and violence is among one's most powerful instruments designed to secure that objective. Just like any other instrument, one must practice it in order to master it. The master level is achieved when one knows when it is appropriate to use it and in what degree.
It’s so true started training Muay Thai in January and the amount of times I’ve gotten humbled by getting my ass kicked sparring has definitely made me a better person it’s beautiful. So grateful for fighting it’s spiritual really.
I intervened when one dude was picking on another dude on a public buss a couple years ago. The bully then started popping off to me instead but it didn’t bother me. I know I did the right thing and I feel good for having done it.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." - Robert E Howard
Zero Tolerance policies are one of the several reasons I left the teaching profession. It solves nothing and it just gives bullies more power to be bullies knowing that they can pick fights and turtle up and the school punishes the person protecting themselves or others. Zero tolerance policies are just laziness on behalf of administration because they dont want to investigate and actually handle bullies. The straw that broke the camels back for me was the district introduced a new policy where the bully and the victim were forced to sit together and the victim actually had to listen to why the bully was a bully and the victim was basically intimidated to feel sorry for the bully. Nope. We are done. The funny part is schools say they have a zero tolerance policy but they do every thing in their power to keep the kids enrolled without actually fixing any issues. They care more about admission rates so they get paid versus stopping bullies. I had kids 6-8th grade that had more days suspended for fighting and bullying than they did enrolled at the end of the year but they were still at the school because $. Public schools in this country are largely fucked.
Always taught my kids this lesson. Ask once for the bully to stop, if they do not stop the time for words is over. Smash that nose and don't stop until they quit or someone pulls you off. You are free, don't let anyone take even an ounce of that from you. Even if you lose they will choose someone else next time.
Now if you even raise your voice, they want to arrest you. I am trying to stop my sisters from stealing my parents land and the cops are considering arresting me because I am angry about it. And they are making up fake accusations on me and I don't know if they will believe me or them. It's sick.
Very well spoken by Mr. Mir. We’re completely upside down as a society. When I was a kid back in the 1960’s I got bullied on multiple occasions until I finally lost my $h1t and went to town on the kid(s). One time the bully’s mother ordered him to apologize to me after I kicked his a$$.
This is an incredible discussion. We need to give power to good deeds. I understand nuances but how do we cure anything if we damage the thought of protection
The other thing Frank didn't touch on enough in the story is that his son stopped the bully from harming another person. This is critical. People need to step up to help others in need, especially with bullies.
Been a fan of Frank for over 20 years. He's very intelligent, it also showed in his submission game.
Dude was a freaking legend, in the UFC since he was 19. Who the hell could do that
His BJJ game was insanely good. Especially for a HW.
@@Jamusictv Minotauro can verify that
Intelligent? A roided gym freak with 1990s wrestling knowledge, beat his skull into a pulp
AS WELL AS STRIKING 😂 GET OUT OF HERE
I had a very similar situation happen with my daughter at school, I got called to the office and they said my kid was fighting and that's all they would say. So I got down there and asked what exactly happened. They told me this little boy pushed my daughter to the ground and smooshed her face in the ground and ran away and (apparently they let that go) then the kid got on a slide and as he came down the slide my daughter waited for him at the bottom and spartan kicked him in the chest. The dumbfounded look on their face when I said good for her. They said they would suspend her for 3 days, and I said that's fine because there is no punishment they can give her that will be equal to the reward I'm going to give her for standing up for herself. I took her to Dave and Buster's right after that and then we went to a theme park the next day because I was off work and we had time. I also had a long talk with her about how violence is not always the answer but there are times when you have to stand up for yourself because no one is going to do it for you. I let her know if she was in the wrong and being a bully I would scold her harder than any teacher could but if she was in the right I would always have her back.
It's cool to know there are still real parents out there.Your daughter is one lucky girl. Her entire life will be effected by this.......for the better. Keep up the good work. If possible, get involved with other kids as well. There are so many that need guidance. Your post brought a HUGE smile to my old face. Thanks!
Legend.
You are the man
Well done👍👍
I hope you also taught her that once shes older and that boy becomes a man, it would be wise to walk away and live to fight another day. Let another man know what happened or the police. Ive always taught my girls to defend themselves but I also have taught them to never put your hands on a man because the majority of men can end your life with their bare hands.
Frank is right. Sometimes a bully needs a beatdown to know we won't allow it again.
Frank Mir has always been an extremely intelligent and carried logic and common sense well!! I echo everything he says in this interview. Todays American society is quite depressing.
Mir is an absolute treasure as a martial arts ambassador, hes a beast very well trained and he could be a menace to society if he wanted to. Instead he advocates for the positives of learning how to fight and being an effective martial artist
Frank Mir is a scholar, a gentlemen, and a warrior. Jesus lol. So eloquent but concise, direct, and relatable. A great listen.
Frank needs a podcast. We would all benefit from it.
This makes me think of what happened in a newly established wildlife park in Africa.
The rangers kept finding injured and sometimes dead rhinos on their morning patrols.
It wasn’t poachers because the horns were left alone.
After setting up camera traps around water holes they found out what was happening.
Adolescent male elephants were acting very aggressive and were the ones targeting the rhinos.
The park staff realized that there had been severe poaching in the region and as a result there were no large dominant bull elephants remaining.
The young, hormone-charged males were being rejected by the adult females and were essentially taking out their frustrations and excess energy on the rhinos.
The situation was completely resolved upon the relocation of a group of dominant bulls from another park with a healthy population.
Moral of the story is it matters to have consequences for your behavior.
Very interesting, thanks for that man.
One of my favorite all time MMA Heavyweights and he's obviously just as good a person as he was a Champ.
remember kids.... if your gonna get suspended for 2 weeks.... get your 2 weeks worth outta there ass make it worth it 🤜
No good deed goes unpunished. Sad but true. I've had firsthand experience of that terrible injustice. But I'd rather stand up and fight for those being bullied again, than look away and act like on one's getting hurt around me. My conscience wouldn't let me.
Stand up for what's right, even if you feel like you're standing alone. You're not. Someone will have your back, because courage is contagious.
well said.
I thought the same thing almost spent 5 years in jail and 40000 in lawyer fees. If you put someone in the hospital your going to jail, or paying a shit load of money. Walk away
Well said.
@@tonypadula8658 What state are you in? Plenty of people use deadly force for self defense or defense of others and it never goes to court so I am curious as to what transpired and where
Great comment, I see a lot of people who say now days it's not worth it to step in but that's BS. If an innocent person is in danger any man should step up regardless of the consequences. I've gotten in between an elderly lady and a dude twice my size and on meth. I was shaking scared and thank God he didn't swing (California at the time so I was unarmed). Even if I had my ass handed to me and was put into the hospital then jail, I would still be able to look myself in the mirror. As for legal consequences, I have USCCA insurance which brings great peace of mind - hopefully I never have to use it.
I absolutely believe its the right answer. My son in 8th grade at the time was jumped by two kids for standing up for another student in the gym that happened to be gay. My son approached him and told him to quit that if they wanna bully somebody bully him. So once my son turned his back the kid hit him in the neck with a jump rope so my son turned around and took the jump rope from him and decided to start kickin this kids ass. So this kid came up from behind and punched my son in the face my son turned and as he did elbowed the other kid in the jaw dropped him inmediately. Gym teacher broke it up. My son gets suspended for a week because he hurt the 2 kids the one he elbowed had damn near had his jaw broken and the other kid was slightly bloody not bad but enough to teach him a lesson. My son had a big ass welt on his neck from the jump rope my son was 6'1 at the time he is now almost 17 and 6'5. But these kids started it and my son finished it period. The other two kids got a 1 day suspension. I said to hell with it lets go to gatlinburg for vacation a few days early then. My son wasnt punished at home in fact I told him its ok to stand up to bullies if that happens again and you get suspended ill handle it.
In PG County Maryland, i used to get suspended fighting in school. Usually three days, sometimes five days. Would go work landscaping and building sundecks with my dad during the down time. It has to be that way, if you fight, whether you are justified or not, do the crime, do the time. Sometimes you just gotta take one for the team. People can make up all kinds of stories, flip the script and make you the bully, or straight up lie to make it like you are the aggressor, so it is better to punish both people equally, like no fault accident states for vehicle insurance. Otherwise you get these identity politics weenies getting one day suspensions because they were the best liar, or the administrator who is writing the suspension has the same identity as the perps. Just smash them and take your administrative lickings like a man.
This was much deeper than i really thought it was going to be
He just put into the most articulated set of words that I wish I could say I’ve been thinking exactly what he just said for the longest time and it is 100% truth of the way. This country is without a doubt without a doubt.
Agree 100 percent! It’s Fuckin sad how society has become
absolutely! ive been struggling with this my whole life. i don't put up with bullies never have but i find myself getting in trouble all the time for standing up for myself and punishing bad behavior all the while the bullies and disrespectful punks in this world get away with everything and im treated like the bad guy for defending myself.
Or maybe you come off as a judgmental asshole who doesn’t know how to mind his own business, draw heat, then wonder why you getting the smoke all the time? Brah, i get it, but just let it go, it’s not worth it. Retire already, the time of the White Knight is over. Let them eat cake. I did eight years on a fifteen handling a Hawaiian bullie on Maui out in Kaupo who was beating up women and dragging them across the ground. Do you think they came to my defense in court? No, in fact they turned me in to crime stoppers for the $1K reward, stiffed me on an ounce of my jungle guerrilla grown organic pakalolo, and testified against me in court for the prosecution. LET THEM EAT CAKE 🍰
Don’t be so easily offended. You will find conflict will not seek you out as often. Use humor to diffuse situations, and assume the other person is going through something that is making them act like a punk, jerk, bully, or fuknut. Give them the benefit of the doubt. It’s a misunderstanding. We cannot assume other people’s intentions, so cut them some slack, nobody is perfect. See them as empty vessels like a boat in the water that hits you broadside, but has no captain to pilot it. You will find Grace will take you farther in life than judgement calls. You are not the judge, the jury, or the executioner. Live an let live. We are all imperfect assholes. Give them your highest grace. I promise it works. Southern Style Kill them with kindness.
🤙🏻
Totally agree with Frank. When my daughter was about 12, just when girls are starting puberty & getting boobs, there was a boy a bit older throwing the girls on the ground & grabbing their chest/boobs. My daughter was doing martial arts & was one of the top girls in her age group in Australia at the time. He did it to my daughter & she told him to stop doing it, he did it again & she told him to stop again, he tried a third time & my daughter put him in a wrist lock - painful & humiliating but no damage. Let him go when a teacher finally arrived.
I get a phone call at work - my daughter’s in trouble for "using karate at school". I drive the 45 minutes & get to the school & see my daughter sitting outside the Principal’s office. Ask her what happened, no bullshit or exaggeration, & she told me the story. I go into the office & the Principal is telling me that my daughter’s suspended & will be lucky if they let her go back. I asked him if he knew the full story & he assured me he did. I asked what punishment the boy was receiving & he said he’d "been counselled" because his father was well respected in the Catholic community (this is a Catholic school). I pulled my phone out & started to dial a number & he asked what I was doing? Told him I was calling the police to report that my daughter had been sexually assaulted at the school & the Principal was covering it up. He freaked & begged me not to make the call. I told him the boy had better be suspended for a month, made to do recess & lunch detention for the rest of the year to protect all the girls & my daughter would not be suspended or punished at all. He accepted those conditions.
When the boy got back to school he started bragging about his holiday & 2 of the boys who did martial arts with my daughters overheard. They were top of their age group in Australia at the time & got hold of him in the toilets & gave him a real beating. They told him if he told anyone who did it he’d get beaten every day for the rest of the school year. I only know because I heard he’d been beaten up & the school had no idea how it had happened. I had a guess & asked them about it & they told me they’d been questioned by the Principal but denied it & none of the kids at the school would answer any questions about it. That family moved away from town about 9 months later because everybody had heard about the kid sexually assaulting the girls, "getting beat up by the girl" & people started asking if he did it because that’s how his father treated his mother.
Damn! 💯💯
Gracias Frank… true words spoken.
Franks always been a fav. Tough and a lefty too. So true what he’s saying. My sons gone through it and his head is held high. No remorse. No fear. Just proud Humble but confident.
Franks a Legend. Support from 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I spotted Mr. Mir at Disneyland with his family a few years ago. I couldn't resist asking him for a photo when he got off of a ride a little bit ahead of his family. He was very gracious and took the time to take a picture with me. He's a gentleman and a savage.
Frank Mir is one of my all time favorites not just for his skills but for his mind and commentary. I’m so glad he made it through his career and kept his sharpness.
Love me some Frank, after following him since the beginning he's seems like a genuine dude.
I agree 100% based on common sense as well as martial artist , a former fighter and retired cop. The world is crazy! This is training people to be victims!
Here in Eurostrash if you see a rape and go violently stop it, you might charged with attacking a person, another thing is you cant defend property with excessive violence
with is excessive? Well thats court to decide but somebody wants your wallet you cant knockout the dude. At least in the states if somebody puts their hands on you
you can defend yourself.
Amen. Very well said. It's an overall cultural problem in our country, that ppl are allowed to act like shit-heads, be abusive, threatening to others... but if you try to intervene you will most likely be the one getting in trouble.
Mr in-between moment
Group therapist: "there's always gonna be assholes Ray"
Ray: " and why do you think that is? because people let them get away with it."
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161I was thinking the same! Great series.
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 Great scene
Mir is a legend in an octagon and out of it
An athlete at my daughter’s school got the snot beat out of him because he refused to fight back against a bully due to the fear of being kicked out of his sport if he got into a fight. Kids are taught to not fight back. I told my daughter she will never get in trouble for defending herself. Hit the bully hard and fast !!! Don’t give up
Never happened.nice fantasy story.
@undoubtedlyimmortal nope. im very strong .YOU,on the other hand,are weak.
My gosh that was a very well thought out, informed and articulated take on the topic. Couldn't agree more.
Very well said. I just wish more fights had gone Frank’s way.
Damn, mad respect 🙏
Couldn't of said it better to everything he said
I’ve never listen to Frank’s speak until now. I had no idea he could be so articulate.
Awesome perspective from a guy that knows a thing or 2 about the subject. I love when he said "in the right dosage", spot on!
Very interesting discussing. Bullies need to be put down to prevent others from getting hurt.
I think bullies are vital. For good or bad I was bullied and it made me who I am. It's kind lf like life you either keep letting letting happen or u stand up for yourself cause no one else is going to
@@erickiyoshiphillips2323super dumb comment
@@erickiyoshiphillips2323bullies also make people kill themselves. Just be a good person and protect your fellow person if someone is being a piece of shit to them!!Bullies aren’t vital, they’re weak ass bitches! Come me bully!!
Beta male!!!
Consequences to being a bully results in death, jail, injury or embarrassment . It's not worth being a bully
Dude I had a similar situation! My son also did same thing and got sucker punched! He put kin in a choke hold until the administration broke it up! I had a spirited conversation with the principal and school resource deputy! Got suspension reduced to 5 days! This is BS. Everyone knows it! I told my son to never compromise on his morals or integrity and of the situation arises again to do the same thing and I will handle to cops! He did nothing wrong but defend an innocent kid from a bully! Side note :said bully was arrested and expelled not two weeks later for drunk possession and a knife on campus! Bravo lmfaooo
I hear this a lot from the US.
Would the way to game the no violence policy not be to use evasive footwork or clinch the attacker and tie him up till folks break it up.
That way only he used violence and gets punished and they can't penalize you for evading or clinching???
For an in-depth and incredible analysis of what Frank Mir's discussing. I recommend the essay "On the Bully's Pulpit" by David Graeber. The fact that 'it doesn't matter who started it' is a thing in schools reflects how it's more about convenience for the administrators than actual justice. Still though, the literature on violence and non-violence (including definitions) is a rich topic.
I couldnt agree more with him... very good Frank! i think just like the same
spot on!
Spot on, we need more people speaking common sense in these types of issues
100% agree. I've been on both ends of this equation and learned a lot.
My entire childhood summed up … this is gold and people should listen.
Never heard Frank talk before. He's pretty well spoken! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Geez have you been living under a rock! Smh
He's very correct
This segment is spot on. This phenomenon, along with the “everyone gets a trophy” movement is what makes our society very challenging in recent times.
Well said Frank! 100% spot on!
Mir is a legend!!!!!!
Expertly put by a true legend
100% agree with Frank. Smart dude.
He's so right about manners. Thing is the rude people are the ones that go quickly running to the Cops.
It's appropriate whenever no other response is appropriate.
My son got in his first fight in 7th grade. He trained and was never the aggressor. Unprovoked a kid attacked him and he dropped the kid. His friends group happened to be walking ahead and did not see the fight. Because of the anti bully indoctrination in the schools his friends didn’t want to know what really happened and turned their backs on my son. Overnight he lost all his friends.
You son should be happy. He lost a lot of fake friends and will make new friends. I had something similar happen to me when I was in my early 20’s and it sucked at first losing my friends but now in my early 30’s I couldn’t be happier that I lost those friends.
He didn't lose any friends. They wasnt his friends to begin with.
@@amck72 That’s what he figured out too.
Then they weren't real friends to begin with...luckily he's young enough to make new, and better friends
Love listening to Frank talk. He made great points
"Violence in the appropriate dosages." I've never heard it put like that, but that's perfect. I love that.
Really interesting perspective and analogies! I'd definitely like to hear more of Mir!
Good answer! Educational beat down works great.
Frank is a great guy and was a great fighter…He is one of pioneers of MMA!
So well spoken
One of the best examples of what is appropriate for defending yourself I’ve seen. I’ve been telling my children since they were old enough to go to school- that if someone is trying to hurt you, then you have no alternative but to defend yourself. Teaching children it’s wrong to defend themselves is completely disgusting, opens them up to abuse from adults and other kids as well as creates a harmful mindset growing into an adult. My children have always known that just because a teacher or school has to suspend them for defending themselves - that’s the government introducing policy that is wrong. It is never wrong, adult or child to make sure someone stops trying to harm you.
The way Frank delivers this is just an amazing, well spoken and common sense approach to something that every parent should have with their child.
Part why i like frank is how pragmatic and honest he is.
In some situations violence is the only answer, and in those situations if violence doesn't work it's only because you didn't use enough of it.
Frank is one of my favorite ufc fighters
I agree 100% they are teaching kids not to fight back when honestly it's necessary sometimes. It's good to stand up for the people you love and yourself of course. Weird how the world works
I didn't know frank was so intelligent and articulate well said Sr
At 3:10 nothing but FACTS, "We protect guys who act like assholes." Preach
I’ll never forget when Frank Mir submitted Brock Lesner, it was UFC upset of the decade🤩👏🏾 💪🏾🔥🔥
I bet Frank doesn’t forget how Brock beat him in the rematch too. Both things are awesome aren’t they? Lol
It was impressive but not an upset. Frank had triple the mma experience than lesnar
I'm with Frank a 💯 % on this
In the country where I live, we teach the boys that violence is AN INSTRUMENT: It should never be regarded as an end goal within and by itself. One's survival is the ultimate objective, and violence is among one's most powerful instruments designed to secure that objective. Just like any other instrument, one must practice it in order to master it. The master level is achieved when one knows when it is appropriate to use it and in what degree.
Damn communist who said u get to have a say
replace 'violence' with 'fighting' and I'd agree
Seems like you live in a dictatorship ruled by a mad man.
Frank Legend in the ring and out of it.
Frank Mir is very good at speaking. When you hear him speak, you know that he is intelligent.
Mir is a great speaker.
Very well put !!!
It’s so true started training Muay Thai in January and the amount of times I’ve gotten humbled by getting my ass kicked sparring has definitely made me a better person it’s beautiful. So grateful for fighting it’s spiritual really.
Sounds like you should find another hobby that your cut out for.
I intervened when one dude was picking on another dude on a public buss a couple years ago. The bully then started popping off to me instead but it didn’t bother me. I know I did the right thing and I feel good for having done it.
Frank is right. Everything he said was right. Kids are being taught that doing the right thing carries the same consequence as doing the wrong thing.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." - Robert E Howard
VERY VERY VERY WELL SAID !!!!!!!!!! Thank you Frank.
I was up and down an Mir during his career, but the more podcasts he talks on the more I really like him. Kudos.
Very well spoken!
Frank Mir was my favourite UFC heavy weight champion and he's turning into Penn Jillete, my favourite magician
This is facts. There are no consequences for assholes.
miracle to still have frank here with us after what hes been through
i agree with 100% of what he said, l dont see how you can disagree.
Perfectly put
Interesting point with the duells. Never thought about it
1 million % right, another example of the differente between Right and Legal.
I agree with Frank a 100 Percent
Zero Tolerance policies are one of the several reasons I left the teaching profession.
It solves nothing and it just gives bullies more power to be bullies knowing that they can pick fights and turtle up and the school punishes the person protecting themselves or others.
Zero tolerance policies are just laziness on behalf of administration because they dont want to investigate and actually handle bullies.
The straw that broke the camels back for me was the district introduced a new policy where the bully and the victim were forced to sit together and the victim actually had to listen to why the bully was a bully and the victim was basically intimidated to feel sorry for the bully. Nope. We are done.
The funny part is schools say they have a zero tolerance policy but they do every thing in their power to keep the kids enrolled without actually fixing any issues. They care more about admission rates so they get paid versus stopping bullies. I had kids 6-8th grade that had more days suspended for fighting and bullying than they did enrolled at the end of the year but they were still at the school because $.
Public schools in this country are largely fucked.
One of the best things I've heard, damn.
Always taught my kids this lesson. Ask once for the bully to stop, if they do not stop the time for words is over. Smash that nose and don't stop until they quit or someone pulls you off. You are free, don't let anyone take even an ounce of that from you. Even if you lose they will choose someone else next time.
Now if you even raise your voice, they want to arrest you. I am trying to stop my sisters from stealing my parents land and the cops are considering arresting me because I am angry about it. And they are making up fake accusations on me and I don't know if they will believe me or them. It's sick.
100%. Frank is saying more than just what he said.
Very well spoken by Mr. Mir. We’re completely upside down as a society. When I was a kid back in the 1960’s I got bullied on multiple occasions until I finally lost my $h1t and went to town on the kid(s). One time the bully’s mother ordered him to apologize to me after I kicked his a$$.
Big up Frank Mir talking a hell of alot of sense.....
I totally agree with Frank.
one of my fav ufc fighters. the calm one
Frank speaks for what alot of people are afraid to say in this day and age. I’m all in with his philosophy
I've always loved you Frank, and this video is yet another reason why
Well said, Mr. Mir!
Super intelligent perspective!
This is an incredible discussion. We need to give power to good deeds. I understand nuances but how do we cure anything if we damage the thought of protection
The other thing Frank didn't touch on enough in the story is that his son stopped the bully from harming another person. This is critical. People need to step up to help others in need, especially with bullies.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
@fred.flintstone4099 Is that a Mr. Bean quote?
@@thebodykeepsthescore2828 I don't know the origin but it has been misattributed to Edmund Burke.
PREACH IT BROTHER FRANK!!! 💯 😊