@@zenster1097 Superiority_Complex.jpeg You don't need to be a historian to understand that not learning from the past eventually leads to you fucking up the future, it's not rocket science.
When I first saw them, I thought they're just your usual macho, aggresive metal band and not a bunch of awesome history enthusiast. Much love for them, can't wait for their new album🤘
When I first saw them I got the impression of dungeon n dragon basement dwellers. I think steel commander was first song n I had no idea it was based on history. Now I'm a fan and Ive watched about all of their history episodes as well.
I think the funniest story about Wojtek the bear (mostly he helped haul cannon and shells up Italian mountains) was his retirement in a British zoo after the war. One of his former handlers went to visit and jumped the fence without hesitation and was recognized, resulting in them wrestling while zookeepers and visitors freaked out.
Edinburgh zoo! there is also a statue of him in a town called Duns where his regiment were based for a while post war, i live in the area and there are still a few elderly people who remember the polish soldiers and their bear... another thing to look up from the same era is "the great polish map of scotland"
Especially later on during WW2 on the Eastern Front where the war became a war of annihilation. Was a KV tank that held off a large German force...the crew were eventually killed but out of accomplishment were treated with honor.
Sabaton has a song called ”Smoking Snakes” about 3 brazillian soldiers on the Italian front during WW2 who were up against a significantly larger German force, when they died they were buried with respect and were given the name “Drei Barzillanischen Helden” in english three brazillian heroes
It wasn't rare for the navies to do so. The law of the sea as they called it, treating your enemies with respect, because the real enemy is the sea itself. It was only after the Laconia incident that it stopped being a widespread practice to save everyone of a ship they sunk, and even then some commanders can't help their nature and saved the crews anyway, against orders.
Been Sabaton fan for over 10 years. I'm really proud to say that these guys were the reason why I started to read about history, war history to be specific. We must never forget our dark and bloody past and those who gave their lives.
In my case, my friend said to me "you are history freak, especially 1st and 2nd world war, I know metal band, which you may like"...and I became Sabaton fan after listen to Primo victoria
@@michaelschneider9141 Well, at least Iron Maiden are not " nerds" but educated and diligent History tellers and way more musically original and talented musicians.
I have honestly always thought of Sabaton's songs as telling the human side of the story. Regardless of which "Side" a person was fighting on, they all felt fears, doubts and worries. Keep up the great work guys :)
@@johntaylor4787 well yeah but they still know english and are planning a global release. You'd be right if this was something exclusively sung in swedish but all the songs are in english.
Sabaton honors the brave men, women, and children who fought for causes bigger than themselves, done in the most respectful way possible. Anyone who feels they are glorifying warfare aren't paying attention.
As a bit of a history nerd, a metal head and living close to a tank museum in the UK, I would love (and pay) to have a guided tour by Sabaton, I could probably listen to them talk about history for hours.
My Grandfather, was from England and was in WWI. He was mustard gased and it basically took his life in the early 50s, but he raised five children who adored him..sadly he only met one of his many grandchildren, because of that damn mustard gas. Him and my Grandmother came the to Utah and became Mormons, as they were offered a home and a life there. Her family was from Sweden, she was born in the United States. He wrote journals from waiting to be shipped out and many words from being on the battlefield, including being in the trenches..I have those journals now and they are fun and incredible to read. I appreciate Sabaton writing many stories from that horrid war in this genre, that many younger and older people can learn from, for we must learn from war..including this damn war Ukraine is in now, with today's hitler. I learned about Y'all from The Christmas Truce song and at 64, I am becoming a metal fan through Sabaton and Nightwish. I hope one day to come to Europe and see them both in Concert in a big stadium setting with all the wonderful hoopla they do at their shows. thank you Sabaton for this new journey into my new journey into metal music..in the U.S. too. PS, I loved your interview, Joakim with Elizabeth, it was enlightening and a fun time to watch and listen to, about you and your band.
"I'm Jewish and I find these Nazi ornaments fascinating". I want to commend the presenter for being incredibly informed and incredibly well composed through all this. Understanding that the songs are history lessons and not "pro war" or "Neo Nazi", while helping the audience to embrace learning as well. Sabaton is no stranger to the criticism either, and they know how to politely say that detractors are misinformed or just angry/sad. 11 out of 10 stars all around
@@Seriona1 Its the same as a jewish writer say'd with Eichman and evil its in mondane that people accept it. "He was just filling in forms to better his career" she had a allot of shit from that. While its true allot of psychology research is done on it. They did a test on people with asking questions to someone and then a test subject would get a shock if they get it wrong not realizing they them self where test subjects. Some fascinating outcomes came from it. The shit people doing knowingly on them self. When they can give responsability a supervisor it gets even uglier.
Never call yourself a nerd as it is a derogatory term to make intellectuals seem unfounded and unworthy of comanding the respect that they desrve for being enlightened and interesting.
sabaton is one of those bands that musically isnt amazing or complex but the songwriting and messaging is just so on point and inspiring. the passion they share with the world is just amazing
So envious of the interviewer for having the opportunity to go through these incredible exhibits with Par and Joakim - one could learn more from these two musicians than from a history professor!
I'm turning 26 this year. almost half my life I have watched movies / series and documentaries about the First and Second World War. But that dogs were a part of firing missiles, that's also new to me. Thank you Sabaton, you also teach knowledgeable people more history!
My grandfather was in the U.S. 143rd infantry regiment as they pushed through Italy in WWII. He survived the Battle of San Pietro (wounded), the first Battle of Monte Cassino (aka Rapido River, wounded) and was finally wounded a third time during the push to Rome. He never talked about the war. And after researching his unit and the dates he was wounded, I know why. In the 12 months he was in Europe, he was wounded 3 times but he survived. Most of the boys and men he served with did not. We MUST learn from past wars, so hopefully there is a future without wars.
Why are people saying this is a bad timing? They're a metal band that sings about war and this video is in a ww1 museum talking about their new album about ww1
@@nj86 And if they touched upon the current events, it would be "oh look how they profit from someone else's misfortune". Same people who used to say Sabaton glorifies war.
@@nj86 Or children. They might think no further than: "Oh my favorite band sings about past wars, battles and heroes. There's a war now! They should make a song immediately, how perfect!" 🤦🤦🤦
You can just see the passion for history from these three talking, I imagine most people would learn hell of a lot just from listening to the band casually talking about conflicts. The fact that they wrap these stories up in some incredible music just makes it better. I've been slightly addicted to their new song, Dreadnought since the song landed in my RUclips feed.
I entirely agree with the stance the Joakhim and Pars are taking regarding their lyrics and aim of message. The part where they talk about Primo Victoria and someone wanting the words changed because it's a sensitive topic - here's the problem (and I know this may be what they are trying to hammer the point on): History is written by the victors, but as a result you see things through rose-tinted glasses. The old adage War is Hell doesn't nearly cut it, and I feel everyone needs to know what did happen before. Be it one, ten or a thousand years ago we have to remember so that things are not repeated.
The history of War is literally about conflict, it is the history of ideologies that people actually did kill for. It is unsurprising that Sabaton's music, detailing historical events during the multitude of history's wars inspires controversy. The thing is you must understand history to understand why such bloodshed occurred and have some possibility of preventing the repeat of such horrors, like for example the "jam boy" - I'm British born and that is fucked up and should be never be forgotten or repeated. Sabaton promote exactly this understanding, Sabaton sing about war not to promote or glorify but to educate and understand. The why you do something is the key and Sabaton are on the right side of why.
@@Eelco86 "there is this cool thing in Belgium, really impressive" Dutch people "Nah nah check *insert dutch thing* that's cool too" Joke aside, i've gone to Overloon and that's indeed really great.
I like to think that Sabaton will be remembered a long time from now. I’ve known a few metalheads that look down on it, calling it tacky and lame. Is it cheesy? Sure, but in the best way possible. It’s super fun and entertaining.
My great grandfather and his brothers fought WW2 in different places and collected different artifacts like one of them is a German bandolier for extra ammo which was left behind in a bunker in Italy, another is a Japanese bayonet that he had collected from obviously a Japanese soldier. But the coolest was the fact that my Great Grandma was a spy for the US and she actually worked with the British and the French resistance quite frequently, and obviously sometimes she would have to take out German officers and she had taken an arm band from one of them.
Say what you want about the man and the movement, but to be fair, Robert E. Lee was right: "It is fortunate that war is so terrible, else we would fall in love with it"
My great grandfather was d+1 and he went with patton through france, battle of the bulge and into germany ending up in Berlin at the end of the war. We found a unit poster taken 2 weeks before the shipped to england as part of overlord.
dear loudwire, please get Sabaton to do a history series on your channel, i think many would enjoy this and sabaton's war history knowledge is second to none. it would be like having your favorite band teaching history, never a dull lesson!
I would love to have these guys escorting me through a tour of a military history museum. Their knowledge is incredible, and I am sure they would have plenty of fun anecdotes and cool facts to contribute, too! Rock on you crazy screaming Swedes!
Speaking of relatives who could have served in WWI or WWII, my grandmother on my mother's side brother would have served in combat in WWII, but he knew how to type and that kept him State-side in a administrative role if you know what I mean. I don't know what year he was born, but she was born in 1911, making her 30-ish during WWII. I just got word that he was in 20s during the war, so yeah, he was prime age for that sort of thing.
Their knowledge and love of history is so amazing. It's one of the things that first made me love them. Watching them talk about these things, it's so obvious how much they love this subject
The goosebumps I got when they walked into the massive planes/jets room! I live in Belgium and I had no idea this museum existed, definitely on my to do list now!
one really cool thing about that museum, their MKIV and medium MKA "whippet" tanks were basically rolled in of the battlefield so never have been repainted. so they reflect the original color british tanks were painted at the time, albeit faded and darkened a bit over time. the pigeons also served as the "canary in the coal mine" for the crew for carbon monoxide poising. which happened to crew with alarming regularity.
I thought they were just going to be a metal band, but they're really a very interesting band that sings about war. I've actually learned from them. I made myself watch a movie about the Christmas truce this afternoon because of their song. Thank you for waking me up. 😊
Always loved history, and a history friend of mine recommended this band to me. Did not disappoint! Listened to the latest two albums back to back in my way to school.
@Sabaton next time you're planning a tour leg through Canada give yourselves time to visit HMCS Haida in Hamilton, Ontario (Haida is the most decorated warship in Canadian naval history - Dday, Murmansk, arctic passage, Panama canal, Pacific War, Korean War, Trainbusters Club) and The Canadian War Museum in Ottawa is incredible.
As a Canadian, we were always told the Red Baron was shot down by a Canadian pilot, Roy Brown. Just looking that up now, seems it wasn’t that straight forward, as are most history stories…. Sounds like it was either Brown, an Australian machine gun battery, or a combination of both. What we do know for sure - it was not Snoopy!
Love that quote "Classical is just Metal without electricity." I also love how much of historians they are; would be so awesome to have a tour with them through this museum as my guide. So cool!
This episode was absolutely fantastic. Such good production quality and simply very interesting and entertaining to watch. I now just wanna visit that museum
I feel for Par...that is me every time I go to a museum with friends. They are all social and talking and shooting the shit, I am like 'Shhh, this is my zone'.
23:36 battle of Jylland I think he's talking about where german and british Dreadnoughts were used for the first time outside the danish coast, as they were the new type of battleship in ww1. Some call it Jutland, but they're not scandinavians. It's called "Jylland".
The whole red baron "people probably don't know he was the enemy". You can still respect your enemy. Ww1 was really confusing and weird. Germany wasn't necessarily the villains, they were dragging into it like the rest of the world. In Germanys defense their allie Austria Hungary leader ark Duke Ferdinand was assassinated by a Serbian "terrorist" group which lead Austria Hungary to fight Serbia that down the line caused Germany to join. Now in the allies defense Serbia was being suppressed by Austria Hungary so they backed Serbia and down the road they were dragged into it. So both sides had their good intentions. So both sides could respect each other. The war could be blamed on alliances, if their weren't any alliances it would have been a war just between Serbia and Austria Hungary.
I'd say Belgium has the more rights to be angry at Germany, as they were attacked without even having took sides. The fact that they today host so much information and tributes about the German side is a great thing to witness.
Sirs, I thank you for making music with the full base of saying, " This happened, learn from it so WE do not repeat it " I have seen so many of the youth in America that might have only the most bottom tier learning and if they feel reason to google your songs will learn that which I say con NOT be allowed to be forgotten, we paid the price for those lessons once, if we have working IQ we will avoid that cost today, ( Inflation is an enemy that kills every time ) we have debts that will bankrupt us now, as it is. SABATON. PRIMO VICTORIA.
I found this fascinating, my grandfather was a british soldier in world war I and also took part in the Spanish Civil War, he probably only abstained from world war II because he was in his mid forties by then and working in a munitions depot. From welsh miner to soldier, to munitions worker. He never spoke about his time as a soldier, we only discovered his military history after he had died, when my sister saw his name on a plaque.
I know a huge complaint is all their music sounds the same, but I don't ever hear they sound the same as someone else, I think they fill a very nice niche in metal and it works. I still hope they experiment a bit with their sound(from the recent singles it sounds like they are) but overall a pretty decent band
To all who are mentioning Ukraine: Did you not read MONTHS AGO that the upcoming album is a sequel to the previous, and both are about WW1? Is Ukraine situation WW1? Or are you dumb?
@@nevertrustbob1291 Yes. And if someone/anyone made such songs just now, as it's happening.. the same people would say: Oh look at Sabaton/anyband PROFITING on people dying! Same as they say Sabaton glorifies war. 🤦
@@nevertrustbob1291 I don't do double msgs, but in this case... I was in Bosnian war during the 90s. If some outside band made a song about it WHILE we were dying left & right, I wouldn't have appreciated it. We did it ourselves, by sending the song "Whole World's Pain" to Eurovision. *No one cared* We held a "Miss Sarajevo" pageant to raise awareness under siege.. with all these beautiful ladies (who had nothing to prettify themselves with, they barely had food rations).. and the motto of that event was "Don't let them kill us". *No one cared* Only when "the powers to be" finish playing their games with human lives, that's where it ends. Sing about it or scream, makes no difference. It just makes you look like you're trying to profit off of someone's misfortune if you make a song about people you're not suffering WITH.
@@A_Ducky Like Bono. Or Geldof or Sting or any of these hypocrites. War is a bad thing in itself, people don't need celebrities playing the sad altruist. As soon as their show is over and the press is gone, they return to their mansions and keep on living their wealthy lives. It's not like many of them care about the Ukrainian people, it's just that they're afraid that things might change drastically and they'd be left without their riches. Nobody cared about Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria either. As soon as the news are over, people turn their heads and keep living their lives. We all do. But we're just not honest enough to admit it. At the end of the day we're just glad that it's on TV and not in our neighbourhood. Hypocrisy and bigotry play a big part in all of our lives.
@@dr.phibesincrimson Yep, just like no one cared about Bosnia. We got the embargo just the same as the attackers who stole all of Yugoslavian army everything. We fought in jeans & ripped Converse. But anyway... are you telling me Bono & those others made something.. song or speech about the current events? Bono was big on "I'm helping Bosnia" wagon. But only Bruce Dickinson was crazy enough to hold a concert in Sarajevo under siege, even though UN told him they couldn't guarantee his or the bands' safety. There's an article online about it, and a documentary made couple years ago. Both called "Scream for me Sarajevo". Highly recommend, cheers!! 🤘 And yeah, people of the western world love to make themselves feel better by doing the absolute minimum. I'd be ashamed... but whatever. They're rich, I'm not, so they must be doing something right.
So there's a world War 1 museum here in Missouri and they also have a tank from way back then but I had to tell my class (we went on a field trip there and visited there with my family) that back then there was no AC or solid welding techniques to weld metals so it was bolted together and the crew would be just as cold or hot as the "guy outside of the tank with a gun". I truly do hope that all countries learn from history.
Yes I believe that sabaton sings about controversial topics BUT content like that needs to be remembered and deserves its place in song and music. I respect sabaton for doing what needs to be done
im so glad the band sabaton has the integrity to tell history as it was warts and all, without sanitizing it for the sake of political correctness. you have to remember the bad with the good history. thats the only way to learn from it. if you try to sanitize it and sweep it under the rug, that just makes for ignorant people ripe to be exploited be those with nefarious intentions. hats off to sabaton.
When I did my placement test for college I wrote a paper about show we have history taught school still and I wrote yes because we can learn from it by not doing the bad stuff again. Late think now I want a song about the war dogs and bear!
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“Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
Like most of the comments who are saying "this is bad timing."
They don't like learning from mistakes.
"And those that do are doomed to witness those that did not."
You guys have learned nothing of history. And people who often utter this slogan have a pretty poor understanding themselves.
@@zenster1097 Found the gatekeeper
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You don't need to be a historian to understand that not learning from the past eventually leads to you fucking up the future, it's not rocket science.
When I first saw them, I thought they're just your usual macho, aggresive metal band and not a bunch of awesome history enthusiast. Much love for them, can't wait for their new album🤘
Couple days until it's here
Can't wait, I've ordered way more versions than I could afford
@@A_Ducky I can't afford to buy albums so I take the cheap route and wait for them to be on RUclips lol
Most metal heads are deep and interesting people. Cheers friends 🍻
When I first saw them I got the impression of dungeon n dragon basement dwellers. I think steel commander was first song n I had no idea it was based on history. Now I'm a fan and Ive watched about all of their history episodes as well.
I think the funniest story about Wojtek the bear (mostly he helped haul cannon and shells up Italian mountains) was his retirement in a British zoo after the war. One of his former handlers went to visit and jumped the fence without hesitation and was recognized, resulting in them wrestling while zookeepers and visitors freaked out.
Edinburgh zoo! there is also a statue of him in a town called Duns where his regiment were based for a while post war, i live in the area and there are still a few elderly people who remember the polish soldiers and their bear... another thing to look up from the same era is "the great polish map of scotland"
When the Red Baron died the allies recovered his body and buried him with full military honors!!! To do that for the enemy is rare
Especially later on during WW2 on the Eastern Front where the war became a war of annihilation. Was a KV tank that held off a large German force...the crew were eventually killed but out of accomplishment were treated with honor.
And not just tell once
Actually, that was the norm in the beginning of WW2 as well. Germany even did so to downed British bomber crews. I think UK did the same.
Sabaton has a song called ”Smoking Snakes” about 3 brazillian soldiers on the Italian front during WW2 who were up against a significantly larger German force, when they died they were buried with respect and were given the name “Drei Barzillanischen Helden” in english three brazillian heroes
It wasn't rare for the navies to do so. The law of the sea as they called it, treating your enemies with respect, because the real enemy is the sea itself. It was only after the Laconia incident that it stopped being a widespread practice to save everyone of a ship they sunk, and even then some commanders can't help their nature and saved the crews anyway, against orders.
Been Sabaton fan for over 10 years. I'm really proud to say that these guys were the reason why I started to read about history, war history to be specific. We must never forget our dark and bloody past and those who gave their lives.
In my case, my friend said to me "you are history freak, especially 1st and 2nd world war, I know metal band, which you may like"...and I became Sabaton fan after listen to Primo victoria
@@barborablaskova you have an awesome friend!
History nerds + guitars and drums = Sabaton
Or Iron Maiden
@@michaelschneider9141 Well, at least Iron Maiden are not " nerds" but educated and diligent History tellers and way more musically original and talented musicians.
Overdoing the war theme + guitars are drums = Sabaton
Metal + History = Sabaton
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I have honestly always thought of Sabaton's songs as telling the human side of the story. Regardless of which "Side" a person was fighting on, they all felt fears, doubts and worries. Keep up the great work guys :)
I cant wait for the new album. Sabaton if you see this NEVER apologize for your music. Your music is awesome and so is this video.
Ture if they didn't make music about war who isn't to say another band would do it in a worse way
Holy shit I just realized. The release date, march 4th, is a pun on "march forth". Or maybe i'm reading to much into it
No i want you to be right because that is actually really good.
Knowing them it is absolutely 100% not a coincidence, they absolutely planned it.
@@bonogiamboni4830 exactly. If that was an accident, I'd be more surprised than if it wasn't.
Since they and their label are European, I doubt it
@@johntaylor4787 well yeah but they still know english and are planning a global release. You'd be right if this was something exclusively sung in swedish but all the songs are in english.
One of the reasons to love Sabaton: you got to admire their dedication to preserve history and them just simply telling historical stories.
Sabaton honors the brave men, women, and children who fought for causes bigger than themselves, done in the most respectful way possible. Anyone who feels they are glorifying warfare aren't paying attention.
As a bit of a history nerd, a metal head and living close to a tank museum in the UK, I would love (and pay) to have a guided tour by Sabaton, I could probably listen to them talk about history for hours.
If its the tank museam I think it is....I would love to watch Sabaton go round it!!!!
@@ddlee84 It is indeed! I love that place!
@@danwimbleton You're talking about bovington?
@@trainboi777yall6 yup!
My Grandfather, was from England and was in WWI. He was mustard gased and it basically took his life in the early 50s, but he raised five children who adored him..sadly he only met one of his many grandchildren, because of that damn mustard gas. Him and my Grandmother came the to Utah and became Mormons, as they were offered a home and a life there. Her family was from Sweden, she was born in the United States. He wrote journals from waiting to be shipped out and many words from being on the battlefield, including being in the trenches..I have those journals now and they are fun and incredible to read. I appreciate Sabaton writing many stories from that horrid war in this genre, that many younger and older people can learn from, for we must learn from war..including this damn war Ukraine is in now, with today's hitler. I learned about Y'all from The Christmas Truce song and at 64, I am becoming a metal fan through Sabaton and Nightwish. I hope one day to come to Europe and see them both in Concert in a big stadium setting with all the wonderful hoopla they do at their shows. thank you Sabaton for this new journey into my new journey into metal music..in the U.S. too.
PS, I loved your interview, Joakim with Elizabeth, it was enlightening and a fun time to watch and listen to, about you and your band.
The way Joakim broke out laughing at the Christmas decorations was perfect 🤣
"I'm Jewish and I find these Nazi ornaments fascinating". I want to commend the presenter for being incredibly informed and incredibly well composed through all this. Understanding that the songs are history lessons and not "pro war" or "Neo Nazi", while helping the audience to embrace learning as well. Sabaton is no stranger to the criticism either, and they know how to politely say that detractors are misinformed or just angry/sad. 11 out of 10 stars all around
I had a good chuckle at it myself
Yes. I do not understand why people can't get that Sabaton takes an objective view on war.
Joakim is Jewish?
@@Seriona1 Its the same as a jewish writer say'd with Eichman and evil its in mondane that people accept it. "He was just filling in forms to better his career" she had a allot of shit from that. While its true allot of psychology research is done on it.
They did a test on people with asking questions to someone and then a test subject would get a shock if they get it wrong not realizing they them self where test subjects. Some fascinating outcomes came from it.
The shit people doing knowingly on them self. When they can give responsability a supervisor it gets even uglier.
@@markomilojevic8122 The presenter is. See around 18:00.
Sabaton is one of my favorite bands. They make my little nerd heart happy.
Never call yourself a nerd
as it is a derogatory term
to make intellectuals seem
unfounded and unworthy
of comanding the respect
that they desrve for being
enlightened and interesting.
sabaton is one of those bands that musically isnt amazing or complex but the songwriting and messaging is just so on point and inspiring. the passion they share with the world is just amazing
The music is more complex than most. Christmas Truce with its inverted carol of the bells and key changes… good stuff
I love listening to Joakim and Pär talk about history almost as much as l love listening to their music! They are very intelligent and engaging.
So envious of the interviewer for having the opportunity to go through these incredible exhibits with Par and Joakim - one could learn more from these two musicians than from a history professor!
I'm turning 26 this year. almost half my life I have watched movies / series and documentaries about the First and Second World War.
But that dogs were a part of firing missiles, that's also new to me.
Thank you Sabaton, you also teach knowledgeable people more history!
Na I think it was machine guns or small mortars. Didn’t have missiles back then. At least not used heavily outside of say China.
My grandfather was in the U.S. 143rd infantry regiment as they pushed through Italy in WWII. He survived the Battle of San Pietro (wounded), the first Battle of Monte Cassino (aka Rapido River, wounded) and was finally wounded a third time during the push to Rome.
He never talked about the war. And after researching his unit and the dates he was wounded, I know why. In the 12 months he was in Europe, he was wounded 3 times but he survived. Most of the boys and men he served with did not.
We MUST learn from past wars, so hopefully there is a future without wars.
Why are people saying this is a bad timing? They're a metal band that sings about war and this video is in a ww1 museum talking about their new album about ww1
It’s because of the “WWIII is about to start” thing
@@ChaoticPsychoR Even when it's not, that's all hysteria.
As he said "War is a horrible thing, and we should learn from it."
@@nj86
And if they touched upon the current events, it would be "oh look how they profit from someone else's misfortune". Same people who used to say Sabaton glorifies war.
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Or children. They might think no further than: "Oh my favorite band sings about past wars, battles and heroes. There's a war now! They should make a song immediately, how perfect!" 🤦🤦🤦
You can just see the passion for history from these three talking, I imagine most people would learn hell of a lot just from listening to the band casually talking about conflicts. The fact that they wrap these stories up in some incredible music just makes it better. I've been slightly addicted to their new song, Dreadnought since the song landed in my RUclips feed.
*Nothing but ❤ for this amazing metal band.*
I entirely agree with the stance the Joakhim and Pars are taking regarding their lyrics and aim of message. The part where they talk about Primo Victoria and someone wanting the words changed because it's a sensitive topic - here's the problem (and I know this may be what they are trying to hammer the point on): History is written by the victors, but as a result you see things through rose-tinted glasses. The old adage War is Hell doesn't nearly cut it, and I feel everyone needs to know what did happen before. Be it one, ten or a thousand years ago we have to remember so that things are not repeated.
The history of War is literally about conflict, it is the history of ideologies that people actually did kill for. It is unsurprising that Sabaton's music, detailing historical events during the multitude of history's wars inspires controversy. The thing is you must understand history to understand why such bloodshed occurred and have some possibility of preventing the repeat of such horrors, like for example the "jam boy" - I'm British born and that is fucked up and should be never be forgotten or repeated. Sabaton promote exactly this understanding, Sabaton sing about war not to promote or glorify but to educate and understand. The why you do something is the key and Sabaton are on the right side of why.
I had no idea they had their own history channel. Incredible historians 🤘
So much history in 1 place. Glad sabaton got to go check everything out. Can't wait for the new album
This is honestly one of the most impressive museums I have ever been to. Great vid too.
Check Overloon in the Netherlands also great museum
@@Eelco86 "there is this cool thing in Belgium, really impressive"
Dutch people "Nah nah check *insert dutch thing* that's cool too"
Joke aside, i've gone to Overloon and that's indeed really great.
I like to think that Sabaton will be remembered a long time from now. I’ve known a few metalheads that look down on it, calling it tacky and lame. Is it cheesy? Sure, but in the best way possible. It’s super fun and entertaining.
Im very new to the metal genre and very new to Sabaton but these guys, especially Joakim, have really hooked me.
As odd as this may sound. I was taught about WW1 and WW2 but Sabaton is the reason why I remember them.
My great grandfather and his brothers fought WW2 in different places and collected different artifacts like one of them is a German bandolier for extra ammo which was left behind in a bunker in Italy, another is a Japanese bayonet that he had collected from obviously a Japanese soldier. But the coolest was the fact that my Great Grandma was a spy for the US and she actually worked with the British and the French resistance quite frequently, and obviously sometimes she would have to take out German officers and she had taken an arm band from one of them.
As a german I really appreciate your great grandparents. Shit would have gotten even darker if it wasn't for people like them. Fuck fascists.
Can't wait for the new album on Friday!!🥳🎊
Yes it's great album. I wasn't disappointed
Say what you want about the man and the movement, but to be fair, Robert E. Lee was right:
"It is fortunate that war is so terrible, else we would fall in love with it"
My great grandfather was d+1 and he went with patton through france, battle of the bulge and into germany ending up in Berlin at the end of the war. We found a unit poster taken 2 weeks before the shipped to england as part of overlord.
Love these guys. Very thoughtful musicians, eloquent and incredibly talented.
This video is awesome! Learned more here from a metal band than I did in history class! Thank you Sabaton for being what you are!
2022 certainly has given us enough stuff for a new album.
dear loudwire, please get Sabaton to do a history series on your channel, i think many would enjoy this and sabaton's war history knowledge is second to none. it would be like having your favorite band teaching history, never a dull lesson!
They have their own Sabaton History youtube channel with Indy from time ghost history
@@gearhead2255 oh i didnt know, cool thanks for letting me know
Sabaton gives you strength and faith ... greetings from Poland
Why this dude living one of my dreams right now
Good time posting this. History should be remembered. Perhaps we can completely learn to ignore the propaganda and learn from our mistakes.
Germans in ww1: uses gas
Also germans in ww1: shotguns are now illegal
I would love to have these guys escorting me through a tour of a military history museum. Their knowledge is incredible, and I am sure they would have plenty of fun anecdotes and cool facts to contribute, too! Rock on you crazy screaming Swedes!
Just got my shipping notice for the new album 🤘
Side note; not sure how much longer Joakim will be able to keep his full mohawk lol
“History doesn’t repeat, but it often rhymes”
Speaking of relatives who could have served in WWI or WWII, my grandmother on my mother's side brother would have served in combat in WWII, but he knew how to type and that kept him State-side in a administrative role if you know what I mean. I don't know what year he was born, but she was born in 1911, making her 30-ish during WWII. I just got word that he was in 20s during the war, so yeah, he was prime age for that sort of thing.
When talking about the romanticization of the Red Baron, I remembered that in the U.S, we have Red Baron pizza
Their knowledge and love of history is so amazing. It's one of the things that first made me love them. Watching them talk about these things, it's so obvious how much they love this subject
The goosebumps I got when they walked into the massive planes/jets room!
I live in Belgium and I had no idea this museum existed, definitely on my to do list now!
I could listen to these guys just talking about history for hours. So much knowledge, and so much enthusiasm to both teach and learn.
one really cool thing about that museum, their MKIV and medium MKA "whippet" tanks were basically rolled in of the battlefield so never have been repainted. so they reflect the original color british tanks were painted at the time, albeit faded and darkened a bit over time.
the pigeons also served as the "canary in the coal mine" for the crew for carbon monoxide poising. which happened to crew with alarming regularity.
I thought they were just going to be a metal band, but they're really a very interesting band that sings about war. I've actually learned from them. I made myself watch a movie about the Christmas truce this afternoon because of their song. Thank you for waking me up. 😊
Such intelligent guys - Love them both, love them all!
Such a great interview! That museum looks awesome! Glad you guys do what you do. It's great to get some education with our metal!
Always loved history, and a history friend of mine recommended this band to me. Did not disappoint! Listened to the latest two albums back to back in my way to school.
This is why Sabaton is my favorite band.
@Sabaton next time you're planning a tour leg through Canada give yourselves time to visit HMCS Haida in Hamilton, Ontario (Haida is the most decorated warship in Canadian naval history - Dday, Murmansk, arctic passage, Panama canal, Pacific War, Korean War, Trainbusters Club) and The Canadian War Museum in Ottawa is incredible.
An Author once wrote about WW1 and said something to the effect of 'we rode in on horses, and rode out on tanks'
As a Canadian, we were always told the Red Baron was shot down by a Canadian pilot, Roy Brown. Just looking that up now, seems it wasn’t that straight forward, as are most history stories…. Sounds like it was either Brown, an Australian machine gun battery, or a combination of both. What we do know for sure - it was not Snoopy!
what an awesome museum!!! and its unbelievably cool to have a digital walkthrough with sabaton talking about history! thanks guys!!!
Love that quote "Classical is just Metal without electricity." I also love how much of historians they are; would be so awesome to have a tour with them through this museum as my guide. So cool!
Graham has the most interesting, coolest job in the world. Great interviewer, great video, thanks Loudwire.
Such an amazing band!
15:30 wow as a German I am absolutely ashamed that we still have so many incompetent people in important positions
S A B A T O N!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSS
I simply love how Scandinavian people speak English. It always sounds like they are doing some comedy bit. 😄
I love watching people nerd out.
Manfred Von Richtofen was credited with 80 aerial combat victories in WWI.
*Sabaton:* "Even if we did bad shit, we should remember and learn from it"
*America:* Happy Turkey Day!! :DD
I'd give almost anything to be able to tour a museum with these guys. Graham is so lucky!
This episode was absolutely fantastic. Such good production quality and simply very interesting and entertaining to watch. I now just wanna visit that museum
Forty to fifty years after this war has end...
Sabaton will be there to make a song about it.
God Bless Sabaton
I feel for Par...that is me every time I go to a museum with friends. They are all social and talking and shooting the shit, I am like 'Shhh, this is my zone'.
I would love to go to that museum one day. Holy shit that looks incredible!
23:36 battle of Jylland I think he's talking about where german and british Dreadnoughts were used for the first time outside the danish coast, as they were the new type of battleship in ww1. Some call it Jutland, but they're not scandinavians. It's called "Jylland".
Imagine getting a personal museum tour by Joakim and Par
Sabaton needs to make a song about Wojtek
Pär has major Merlin vibes for me
He just needs to rock a cane and a wizards hat 😎
"Hahahaaah... 🤣 then we would have to evacuate 😑 and there is no listening session... 😩".
Never forget what happened in the past we have to learn from war
17:42 lolololol. I had a good chuckle as well.
The whole red baron "people probably don't know he was the enemy". You can still respect your enemy. Ww1 was really confusing and weird. Germany wasn't necessarily the villains, they were dragging into it like the rest of the world. In Germanys defense their allie Austria Hungary leader ark Duke Ferdinand was assassinated by a Serbian "terrorist" group which lead Austria Hungary to fight Serbia that down the line caused Germany to join. Now in the allies defense Serbia was being suppressed by Austria Hungary so they backed Serbia and down the road they were dragged into it. So both sides had their good intentions. So both sides could respect each other. The war could be blamed on alliances, if their weren't any alliances it would have been a war just between Serbia and Austria Hungary.
I ain't saying that Germany and their allies didn't do bad stuff.
I'd say Belgium has the more rights to be angry at Germany, as they were attacked without even having took sides. The fact that they today host so much information and tributes about the German side is a great thing to witness.
Joakím you keep surprising me with your knowledge...just wow!
Sirs, I thank you for making music with the full base of saying, " This happened, learn from it so WE do not repeat it " I have seen so many of the youth in America that might have only the most bottom tier learning and if they feel reason to google your songs will learn that which I say con NOT be allowed to be forgotten, we paid the price for those lessons once, if we have working IQ we will avoid that cost today, ( Inflation is an enemy that kills every time ) we have debts that will bankrupt us now, as it is. SABATON. PRIMO VICTORIA.
I found this fascinating, my grandfather was a british soldier in world war I and also took part in the Spanish Civil War, he probably only abstained from world war II because he was in his mid forties by then and working in a munitions depot. From welsh miner to soldier, to munitions worker. He never spoke about his time as a soldier, we only discovered his military history after he had died, when my sister saw his name on a plaque.
This was a real pleasure 💐
❤ for Sabaton.
I know a huge complaint is all their music sounds the same, but I don't ever hear they sound the same as someone else, I think they fill a very nice niche in metal and it works. I still hope they experiment a bit with their sound(from the recent singles it sounds like they are) but overall a pretty decent band
To all who are mentioning Ukraine:
Did you not read MONTHS AGO that the upcoming album is a sequel to the previous, and both are about WW1?
Is Ukraine situation WW1?
Or are you dumb?
They expect it to be songs about ukraine as people are dying and suffering. They demand not ask for songs...
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Yes. And if someone/anyone made such songs just now, as it's happening.. the same people would say: Oh look at Sabaton/anyband PROFITING on people dying!
Same as they say Sabaton glorifies war. 🤦
@@nevertrustbob1291
I don't do double msgs, but in this case...
I was in Bosnian war during the 90s. If some outside band made a song about it WHILE we were dying left & right, I wouldn't have appreciated it. We did it ourselves, by sending the song "Whole World's Pain" to Eurovision. *No one cared*
We held a "Miss Sarajevo" pageant to raise awareness under siege.. with all these beautiful ladies (who had nothing to prettify themselves with, they barely had food rations).. and the motto of that event was "Don't let them kill us". *No one cared*
Only when "the powers to be" finish playing their games with human lives, that's where it ends. Sing about it or scream, makes no difference. It just makes you look like you're trying to profit off of someone's misfortune if you make a song about people you're not suffering WITH.
@@A_Ducky Like Bono. Or Geldof or Sting or any of these hypocrites. War is a bad thing in itself, people don't need celebrities playing the sad altruist. As soon as their show is over and the press is gone, they return to their mansions and keep on living their wealthy lives. It's not like many of them care about the Ukrainian people, it's just that they're afraid that things might change drastically and they'd be left without their riches. Nobody cared about Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria either. As soon as the news are over, people turn their heads and keep living their lives. We all do. But we're just not honest enough to admit it. At the end of the day we're just glad that it's on TV and not in our neighbourhood. Hypocrisy and bigotry play a big part in all of our lives.
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Yep, just like no one cared about Bosnia. We got the embargo just the same as the attackers who stole all of Yugoslavian army everything. We fought in jeans & ripped Converse. But anyway... are you telling me Bono & those others made something.. song or speech about the current events? Bono was big on "I'm helping Bosnia" wagon. But only Bruce Dickinson was crazy enough to hold a concert in Sarajevo under siege, even though UN told him they couldn't guarantee his or the bands' safety. There's an article online about it, and a documentary made couple years ago. Both called "Scream for me Sarajevo". Highly recommend, cheers!! 🤘
And yeah, people of the western world love to make themselves feel better by doing the absolute minimum. I'd be ashamed... but whatever. They're rich, I'm not, so they must be doing something right.
So there's a world War 1 museum here in Missouri and they also have a tank from way back then but I had to tell my class (we went on a field trip there and visited there with my family) that back then there was no AC or solid welding techniques to weld metals so it was bolted together and the crew would be just as cold or hot as the "guy outside of the tank with a gun". I truly do hope that all countries learn from history.
Impressive knowledge about military history from the the music group Sabaton.
Mannn i really want to go to this museum someday. It's so massive 🔥🔥🔥
Yes I believe that sabaton sings about controversial topics BUT content like that needs to be remembered and deserves its place in song and music. I respect sabaton for doing what needs to be done
WE NEED sabaton HISTORY MUSEUM
im so glad the band sabaton has the integrity to tell history as it was warts and all, without sanitizing it for the sake of political correctness. you have to remember the bad with the good history. thats the only way to learn from it. if you try to sanitize it and sweep it under the rug, that just makes for ignorant people ripe to be exploited be those with nefarious intentions. hats off to sabaton.
When I did my placement test for college I wrote a paper about show we have history taught school still and I wrote yes because we can learn from it by not doing the bad stuff again. Late think now I want a song about the war dogs and bear!