HA! I knew ALL OF THESE! Got you beat, Reda! The future is now! But seriously, thanks for doing these videos. Your dune videos in general are hugely helpful. I'm not sure if you mentioned this in just the bene gesserit strategy video or also in your "play correctly" videos, but you could mention in the next video that you do not need to "control" arakeen or carthag to make use of ornithopters. if you decide to ship units into any of those cities, you may use ornithopters during the immediately following movement. I overlooked this during my previous games (but played it correctly last time) and also saw MCDM not play that way (The host explicitly said you need to control either city to use thopters) Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it might be useful information. Also, how do you stand on the bene gesserit + ally issue? Are BG advisors and ally forces allowed in the same regions?
I do cover this in at least one other video- probably easy to miss rules. As for allies- I am old school and treat advisors as described in the rules “no effect on game play; treated as if they are not there”.
By the way, regarding Fremen shipment and alliances with the Richese / Guild: 1. Fremen can still cross-ship using the Guild's alliance ability, correct? If they do so, can they still "bring out" the troops normally, or does the cross-shipment substitute their deployment action? 2. Can the Fremen use Richese's No-Field tokens? From the wording on the cards it seems that they can't, since the alliance card says "ship from off-planet", but if that's the case -- that means that the Richese literally can't give anything to the Fremen as an ally (unless there is a strategic advantage, if the Richese player owns a stronghold or something)...
In general, an excellent video. However, what's not so clear is the Atreides' prescience power. Do the Atreides have more than one option to look at the constantly updating enemy battle plan, or is the enemy battle plan only true at the time but later he/she can "update" it as many times as he/she wants? The "I've changed my mind" excuse seems to completely nullify the purpose of this power if so.
The opponent can change their mind as many times as they want, but must show whatever their final decision is- at which point Atreides can finalize their own plan.
Great vid, looking forward to the Truthtrance revelations! Could you go into more depth on the Fremen/Emperor Alliance concerning revival when it comes to free/paid/extra? Thanks in advance!
Revival limits are normally 3 total. Fremen free revival for their ally does not exceed 3 - it just gives the ally the same free revival rate as the Fremen. Emperor on the other hand can personally pay to revive up to 3 more forces for his ally, beyond the limit of 3.
Thanks so much for the clarification. This shows the potential for a very powerful alliance of card control and combat/revival supremacy. Thanks for engaging the community around this highly thematic game you obviously love!
@@jackredathewarp does emperor alliance revial +3 limit, and bene tleilaxu revival limit increase stack to 8 (3 + 3 + 2)? Or does limit advantage replace the other limit advantage?
Yes you can pay for an ally’s shipment. The original rules allowed for coexistence with ally, but the current FAQ prohibits this. I am hoping to one day see an update that allows the coexistence, but restricts advisors alone in territories from automatically flipping to fighters except at the start of the game turn.
Does Presciensce'd opponent reveal what exactly they changed after they changed their mind? Or just they say that I "changed the dial number" instead of saying specifically "I cranked it up from 3 to 5"?
If the Guild pays for an ally's shipment, the spice goes from the guild back to the guild right? he gives the spice to the ally, which pays it to the guild. Is that correct? Same example is with the emperor paying for an ally's treachery card: the spice goes from the emperor to the ally which then pays for the treachery card which means the spice goes back to the emperor, right?
@@jackredathewarp Is it the same for armies already on the board? cross shipping your army from siech tabr to tuek's siech? Thanks for these videos btw! really helpful
Actually, I need to issue a retraction- as was pointed out to me, the designers did eventually decide that cross-shipment from reserves is ok for Fremen. I remember it was a protracted debate about where to settle. It’s complicated by the fact that they were also adamant that reserves are not a territory, which may rear its ugly head in the future, but there you have it. Ship away!!
@@jackredathewarp is this still the same? Freemen can ship anywhere from reserves, being allied with SG? What about being allied with Riches and using NO-FIELD? Can Freemen use it to ship anywhere?
HA! I knew ALL OF THESE! Got you beat, Reda! The future is now!
But seriously, thanks for doing these videos. Your dune videos in general are hugely helpful.
I'm not sure if you mentioned this in just the bene gesserit strategy video or also in your "play correctly" videos, but you could mention in the next video that you do not need to "control" arakeen or carthag to make use of ornithopters. if you decide to ship units into any of those cities, you may use ornithopters during the immediately following movement.
I overlooked this during my previous games (but played it correctly last time) and also saw MCDM not play that way (The host explicitly said you need to control either city to use thopters)
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it might be useful information.
Also, how do you stand on the bene gesserit + ally issue? Are BG advisors and ally forces allowed in the same regions?
I do cover this in at least one other video- probably easy to miss rules. As for allies- I am old school and treat advisors as described in the rules “no effect on game play; treated as if they are not there”.
Love the game, really hope that when all the expansions are done, that a nice compendium of all the rules and FAQ's is released.
Thank you Jack for addressing how the Treachery cards work in battles! :)
By the way, regarding Fremen shipment and alliances with the Richese / Guild:
1. Fremen can still cross-ship using the Guild's alliance ability, correct? If they do so, can they still "bring out" the troops normally, or does the cross-shipment substitute their deployment action?
2. Can the Fremen use Richese's No-Field tokens? From the wording on the cards it seems that they can't, since the alliance card says "ship from off-planet", but if that's the case -- that means that the Richese literally can't give anything to the Fremen as an ally (unless there is a strategic advantage, if the Richese player owns a stronghold or something)...
@@jiallombardo only one shipment action for Fremen. And Richese have two alliance advantages but it is not the most ideal alliance.
Love your videos! Thanks a lot for the great explanations. I just got the 2 expansions that you have helped design! Can't wait to play them!
In general, an excellent video. However, what's not so clear is the Atreides' prescience power. Do the Atreides have more than one option to look at the constantly updating enemy battle plan, or is the enemy battle plan only true at the time but later he/she can "update" it as many times as he/she wants? The "I've changed my mind" excuse seems to completely nullify the purpose of this power if so.
The opponent can change their mind as many times as they want, but must show whatever their final decision is- at which point Atreides can finalize their own plan.
Great vid, looking forward to the Truthtrance revelations! Could you go into more depth on the Fremen/Emperor Alliance concerning revival when it comes to free/paid/extra? Thanks in advance!
Revival limits are normally 3 total. Fremen free revival for their ally does not exceed 3 - it just gives the ally the same free revival rate as the Fremen. Emperor on the other hand can personally pay to revive up to 3 more forces for his ally, beyond the limit of 3.
So what would the cost be to revive 6 Fremen?
@@chrisdiaz9061 Fremen allied to Emperor would get 3 for free, and then it would cost 6 to revive 3 more.
Thanks so much for the clarification. This shows the potential for a very powerful alliance of card control and combat/revival supremacy. Thanks for engaging the community around this highly thematic game you obviously love!
@@jackredathewarp does emperor alliance revial +3 limit, and bene tleilaxu revival limit increase stack to 8 (3 + 3 + 2)? Or does limit advantage replace the other limit advantage?
1.You can pay for ally shipment? 2. Can advisor end turn with ally the same zone?
Yes you can pay for an ally’s shipment. The original rules allowed for coexistence with ally, but the current FAQ prohibits this. I am hoping to one day see an update that allows the coexistence, but restricts advisors alone in territories from automatically flipping to fighters except at the start of the game turn.
Where did you get those star shaped holders for the sardaukar units?
some etsy shop... there's a couple of them (somebody made 3d print files, and now a few sell them).
Does Presciensce'd opponent reveal what exactly they changed after they changed their mind? Or just they say that I "changed the dial number" instead of saying specifically "I cranked it up from 3 to 5"?
Atreides just gets to know the final answer.
If the Guild pays for an ally's shipment, the spice goes from the guild back to the guild right? he gives the spice to the ally, which pays it to the guild. Is that correct? Same example is with the emperor paying for an ally's treachery card: the spice goes from the emperor to the ally which then pays for the treachery card which means the spice goes back to the emperor, right?
No. Guild cannot give spice to their ally. If they pay for a shipment, it goes to the spice bank.
But can the emperor pay for treachery cards for their allies and receive the spice back?
@@vitorhauser8476 yes
That was fast. Thank you.
So the fremen cannot use SG alliance power to ship onto the board. Can they make use of the cross shipment ability of the SG?
Technically no. Because reserves don’t count as a territory. 🥲
@@jackredathewarp Is it the same for armies already on the board? cross shipping your army from siech tabr to tuek's siech?
Thanks for these videos btw! really helpful
@@timblok1990 Once on the board, any ally to the Guild can be cross-shipped, even the Fremen.
Actually, I need to issue a retraction- as was pointed out to me, the designers did eventually decide that cross-shipment from reserves is ok for Fremen. I remember it was a protracted debate about where to settle. It’s complicated by the fact that they were also adamant that reserves are not a territory, which may rear its ugly head in the future, but there you have it. Ship away!!
@@jackredathewarp is this still the same? Freemen can ship anywhere from reserves, being allied with SG?
What about being allied with Riches and using NO-FIELD? Can Freemen use it to ship anywhere?