There are only three areas that Volvo desperately needs to improve their wagons, and all are top needs: (1) Cross Country wagons need PHEV and BEV drivetrains … forget these lowered wagons that scrape bottom all the time… (2) put back physical buttons/dials for climate controls, drive-mode controls, etc… (3) redesign the instrument panel and infotainment screen, but keep inlaid screens, not iPad glued to dashboards … look at companies that do their computer screens much better (Porsche, Mercedes, etc), and LEARN from them
I agree with a couple things you mentioned but these aren't really things Volvo really needs to desperately change, they already have a pretty foolproof design
Thanks for another great video... but another sad Volvo day with the removal of the Polestar Engineered versions.. but maybe it's just as good.. The Polestar Engineered versions were better before. The MY21 are the peak year. Before the insane cost cutting mania.. Don't we will see more Polestar treats in Volvo's lineup. Will probably be confusing marketing wise since Polestar are a separate brand.
No fuel heater? That's a huge deal up north where I live. Not only to preheat, but to keep the cabin warm while driving electric as well. Will it get a heat pump instead?
Many other plugins (except from volvo) uses an electric heater. Which then reduces battery range. But also the emissions from the fuel heater is worse than running the engine, and it also means you do not waste expensive fuel. Best way is to have a charger at home and heat the car from the electrical grid. Or just get an electric car ;)
great video as always! disappointing about the removal of the wool blend interior option (my personal fav) ....also was hoping for a new color option.....something in the green family, like a forest green like they used to have on the cars back in the late 90's or early 2000's...
I so wish Volvo would do something beyond the monochromatic paints. Give me some greens, reds, or even a blue. The C40 has a nice blue, why can't the V60 get it too?
I'm from the USA and visit Sverige annually since my wife is from Goteborg. I love how the volvo looks. I want to either get a polestar XC60 or V60 but just afraid of reliability, which is why I'm hesitating. Many people over really don't buy volvos.
Really interesting and informative video, Thom, thanks. All of Volvo's changes are hard to keep track of, even in just one country. My sales guy tries really hard to get the facts from Volvo so he can set expectations for his customers. He finds it really frustratingly difficult to get the straight scoop in the U.S.. One thing he has verified is the U.S. will NOT be getting the upgraded on-board charger (due I think to electrical infrastructure incompatibilities?). I have to be honest, the way Volvo keeps chipping away at content, when it's time to replace my T8 I'm going to have to shop all the options again.
Same here… I’m looking at Mercedes & Porsches to replace my T8 because I’m tired of crappy/limited computer screens and tired of a lack of safer buttons/dials … it’s too much work for too little gain driving these modern Volvos … design people at Volvo don’t think about serious drivers, only about soccer moms
this makes me optimistic that the plug-in will be available in North America when I need it. My current V60 Polestar engineered has the larger battery but the disappointing slower on-board charger.
@@Joe-eg7ml That's why I am hoping for the faster onboard charger. I switched to using a 240 outlet that brings me down to about 4.5 hours for a full charge.
Ah nice. I was waiting for some weeks to order a T6 but was not possible in NL, just last week was able to do it and expected delivery may-June already the v60-2025
Great video! I'm about to put an order down for an XC40 Recharge his week, I guess this MY25 update may also tell what's coming to the rest of the lineup and it seems I won't he missing out on anything huge.
I’m still loving my 2017 V90CC with 69k miles but am considering my options for the next car. If Volvo made a plug in V90 CC, is place the order today.
Please can anyone find out when will they stop production for the 2024 s60 recharge ultimate black edition ? And for the 2024 v60 polestar enginered in USA ..?? If anyone knows please let me know the month or close to the month when they stop production for the 2024
Thom, thanks for another informative presentation. My guess, of the perhaps 5% (?) of shoppers who will purchase a Volvo in the US, 5% will buy the EV version. That’s .0025 of shoppers. Considering the mining, rare metals processing, and power grid consequences of EV’s, the plug-in hybrid is the optimum, logical, choice. My ‘23 S60 PHEV has 11,500 miles on the odometer and has burned 110 gallons. In Pennsylvania, charging the battery costs ~$35 a month at $.168 per kWh. (my first Volvo was a 544 :^).
Question: V60 Cross Country - can you get it with Polestar tuned engine? Also the B4 diesel version, is that powerful enough? I haven’t tested it yet. Thanks 🙏
As someone who bought a volvo few years back and loved, I'm now discouraged from buying another. Basically the same car, but for a higher price and with less features. Plus android automotive and cruise control that still cannot adapt to road sign speed limits. No, thank you.
The heater at first seems concerning. But, I think I would be ok, because battery powered heater is instant on, as are seat and steering wheel heaters. I assume, if the battery is dead, the engine will power the heaters immediately through the battery Edit: Thinking about this, why wouldn’t the vehicle preheat with remote start? The engine can power a discharge battery to activate a battery powered heater.
Op dit moment alleen nog de plug in varianten, die zijn al uitverkocht, vandaar MY25. De mild hybrides zullen wel spoedig volgen zodra my24 van die varianten ook uitverkocht is. Tzt zal dan ook de configurator bijgewerkt worden. 😊
The last of the great SPA models now coming out. They turned around Volvo's fortunes. We'll now see the downfall with the chinese built plastic clad EX variants. RIP Volvo!
@@blindguardian1979 Well, my understanding is that you're in the small minority -- that many more Cross Country wagons have been sold than lowered wagons that scrape bottom all-too-easily.
@@cbatiau2528 I suppose if you're going offroad scraping is a possibility but for regular driving it's no lower than a regular car. I have the V60 PE and never come close to scraping. I think it looks sportier than the cross country. I think you're right about the cross country selling more but there is also more supply. I had to put my name on a waitlist for 6 months for my vehicle which is the norm for the V60 PE so there is obviously a high demand for it too. Just way less supply so hard to compare
for the UK market. We are still getting wagons here in US. Haven't heard decision for 2025 Volvo US yet though. I personally hate SUVs, but wagons are getting really hard to find
There are only three areas that Volvo desperately needs to improve their wagons, and all are top needs: (1) Cross Country wagons need PHEV and BEV drivetrains … forget these lowered wagons that scrape bottom all the time… (2) put back physical buttons/dials for climate controls, drive-mode controls, etc… (3) redesign the instrument panel and infotainment screen, but keep inlaid screens, not iPad glued to dashboards … look at companies that do their computer screens much better (Porsche, Mercedes, etc), and LEARN from them
No Volvo models apart from EX30 and 90 have ‘iPad glued to dash’
I agree with a couple things you mentioned but these aren't really things Volvo really needs to desperately change, they already have a pretty foolproof design
I get why Volvo removd the cross centrey the new one kind of suckd they most likaly make a new one
I just leased a V60 Polestar in Thunder-gray as a replacement for the C40 I returned for lease. And since it’s a 2024 I got huge $13,000 discount.
Thanks for another great video... but another sad Volvo day with the removal of the Polestar Engineered versions.. but maybe it's just as good.. The Polestar Engineered versions were better before. The MY21 are the peak year. Before the insane cost cutting mania.. Don't we will see more Polestar treats in Volvo's lineup. Will probably be confusing marketing wise since Polestar are a separate brand.
Personally I think the retirement of the SPA models is the beginning of the end for Volvo
No fuel heater? That's a huge deal up north where I live. Not only to preheat, but to keep the cabin warm while driving electric as well. Will it get a heat pump instead?
Many other plugins (except from volvo) uses an electric heater. Which then reduces battery range. But also the emissions from the fuel heater is worse than running the engine, and it also means you do not waste expensive fuel.
Best way is to have a charger at home and heat the car from the electrical grid.
Or just get an electric car ;)
@@ShitpommfritFraz clueless, Volvo Recharge models use an electric heater
I ordered one a couple of days ago. Can’t wait, but I’ll have to for the next 6 months 😎
Did you get it?
great video as always! disappointing about the removal of the wool blend interior option (my personal fav) ....also was hoping for a new color option.....something in the green family, like a forest green like they used to have on the cars back in the late 90's or early 2000's...
I so wish Volvo would do something beyond the monochromatic paints. Give me some greens, reds, or even a blue. The C40 has a nice blue, why can't the V60 get it too?
I'm from the USA and visit Sverige annually since my wife is from Goteborg. I love how the volvo looks. I want to either get a polestar XC60 or V60 but just afraid of reliability, which is why I'm hesitating. Many people over really don't buy volvos.
The 60 series is out for many years already so all the big issues have been solved on them. It’s more the EX series cars which are prone to issues.
Really interesting and informative video, Thom, thanks. All of Volvo's changes are hard to keep track of, even in just one country. My sales guy tries really hard to get the facts from Volvo so he can set expectations for his customers. He finds it really frustratingly difficult to get the straight scoop in the U.S.. One thing he has verified is the U.S. will NOT be getting the upgraded on-board charger (due I think to electrical infrastructure incompatibilities?). I have to be honest, the way Volvo keeps chipping away at content, when it's time to replace my T8 I'm going to have to shop all the options again.
Same here… I’m looking at Mercedes & Porsches to replace my T8 because I’m tired of crappy/limited computer screens and tired of a lack of safer buttons/dials … it’s too much work for too little gain driving these modern Volvos … design people at Volvo don’t think about serious drivers, only about soccer moms
@@cbatiau2528exactly, I'm going to be looking at Porsche, and a g99 BMW wagon
this makes me optimistic that the plug-in will be available in North America when I need it. My current V60 Polestar engineered has the larger battery but the disappointing slower on-board charger.
How long does it take to charge at 120v?
About 13 hours.
@stevensnow4112 wow, I was thinking at the most 8 hours
@@Joe-eg7ml That's why I am hoping for the faster onboard charger. I switched to using a 240 outlet that brings me down to about 4.5 hours for a full charge.
@@stevensnow4112 can swing with just a 120v and some charging while driving?
Ah nice. I was waiting for some weeks to order a T6 but was not possible in NL, just last week was able to do it and expected delivery may-June already the v60-2025
Please. Do you have information when will be available polestar optimisation for t6 recharge?
Do we know what model year 2025 entail for XC90 T8? Thank you.
Great video! I'm about to put an order down for an XC40 Recharge his week, I guess this MY25 update may also tell what's coming to the rest of the lineup and it seems I won't he missing out on anything huge.
Probably getting the V60 Hybrid. One reason was, the much nicer Console Design. Will this also disappear then?
I’m still loving my 2017 V90CC with 69k miles but am considering my options for the next car. If Volvo made a plug in V90 CC, is place the order today.
Same here! I want a lifted wagon PHEV!!
Please can anyone find out when will they stop production for the 2024 s60 recharge ultimate black edition ? And for the 2024 v60 polestar enginered in USA ..?? If anyone knows please let me know the month or close to the month when they stop production for the 2024
S60 will end soon due to EX90 production. Id say MY25 is the last one.
Thom, thanks for another informative presentation.
My guess, of the perhaps 5% (?) of shoppers who will purchase a Volvo in the US, 5% will buy the EV version. That’s .0025 of shoppers. Considering the mining, rare metals processing, and power grid consequences of EV’s, the plug-in hybrid is the optimum, logical, choice.
My ‘23 S60 PHEV has 11,500 miles on the odometer and has burned 110 gallons. In Pennsylvania, charging the battery costs ~$35 a month at $.168 per kWh.
(my first Volvo was a 544 :^).
Question: V60 Cross Country - can you get it with Polestar tuned engine? Also the B4 diesel version, is that powerful enough? I haven’t tested it yet.
Thanks 🙏
S/V90 and 60 are completely out in the UK. I drive a 23MY V90 T6 Recharge and I’m gutted I won’t be able to replace it with another Volvo!!
Such a shame Volvo UK took this step, un-volvo like!!
Laminated glasses are now standard? Or did they become as standard in my24 already.
As someone who bought a volvo few years back and loved, I'm now discouraged from buying another. Basically the same car, but for a higher price and with less features. Plus android automotive and cruise control that still cannot adapt to road sign speed limits. No, thank you.
Would you mind sharing some kind of accessory code for that camera? I checked accessory sites in multiple countries without any luck.
Problem with the wool is a lot of people are allergic.
The heater at first seems concerning. But, I think I would be ok, because battery powered heater is instant on, as are seat and steering wheel heaters. I assume, if the battery is dead, the engine will power the heaters immediately through the battery
Edit: Thinking about this, why wouldn’t the vehicle preheat with remote start? The engine can power a discharge battery to activate a battery powered heater.
Are they changing to Tesla charger type?
the full electric US volvo's will
Het was weer een top video Thom! Thx!
Vanaf wanneer denk je dat het 2025 model te configureren is?
Dankjewel! Jazeker, je kunt de T6 en T8 al samenstellen op de online NL configurator.
@@thom-lov bedankt, maar ook al de 2025 versie van de B3 zie ik bijv ook nog.
Op dit moment alleen nog de plug in varianten, die zijn al uitverkocht, vandaar MY25. De mild hybrides zullen wel spoedig volgen zodra my24 van die varianten ook uitverkocht is. Tzt zal dan ook de configurator bijgewerkt worden. 😊
I have a 2020 V60 R-Design with Polestar. I can't find any reason why I need to upgrade to the 2025 model. Seems like it has less features.
Id say the same. Perhaps the bigger plug-in hybrid battery.
Are the new ones still unreliable?
No they are just fine! 😊
So my V60T8 have future the unicorn spec. Thunder gray with WoolBlend interior...
It does, haha!
MY 2025, will it has wireless I-phone charger?
Yep!
In China we only have B4 and B5 and both are FWD:(
News about the EX30?
Any specifics you would like to know?
@@thom-lov wanneer het in Nederland is. Ik heb er één besteld en ben bijna kinderachtig nieuwsgierig waar hij nu al staat in NL?
In Beesd bij de importeur staan er 5 ;-)@@DirkGenee
From december 20 also at Volvo vd Schaaf!!! 🎉🎉
Please can we have v60s back in the usa.
The Polestar engineered version is still available right?
The last of the great SPA models now coming out. They turned around Volvo's fortunes. We'll now see the downfall with the chinese built plastic clad EX variants. RIP Volvo!
Aren't Volvo moving away from the estate / station wagon models? (maybe I dreamt it!)
In the UK, yes.
They are sending as many V60 Polestars to the States as possible. Sell like hotcakes there.
They do fit the US perfectly you'd say. Hopefully they will continue with the PE there...
USA needs Cross Country wagon PHEVs, not lowered wagon PHEVs…
@@cbatiau2528 i definitely prefer the regular wagon over the cross country. With that said, they could do both
@@blindguardian1979 Well, my understanding is that you're in the small minority -- that many more Cross Country wagons have been sold than lowered wagons that scrape bottom all-too-easily.
@@cbatiau2528 I suppose if you're going offroad scraping is a possibility but for regular driving it's no lower than a regular car. I have the V60 PE and never come close to scraping. I think it looks sportier than the cross country. I think you're right about the cross country selling more but there is also more supply. I had to put my name on a waitlist for 6 months for my vehicle which is the norm for the V60 PE so there is obviously a high demand for it too. Just way less supply so hard to compare
Anyone know when the EV 60 will be available?
What ?
2025?? What are you talking about? In 2024 Volvo are stopping the production of V series completely.
Volvo have stopped making estates and only SUV now.
for the UK market. We are still getting wagons here in US. Haven't heard decision for 2025 Volvo US yet though. I personally hate SUVs, but wagons are getting really hard to find