Ego vs Toro: Battery powered single stages versus a Canadian snow dump.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The battle of the single stages vs a massive Canadian winter snow dump.
See our two stage comparison: • Ego vs Toro: The battl...
Update winter 2023:
We have both sold these machines and purchased electric two-stage Ego and Toro. The single stage Ego kept chocking up when working on the rut at the road. This got frustrating. The Toro didn't have this issue, but was still effort when working in heavy wet snow.
Ego SNT2114:
Steel auger and two 7.5AH batteries
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Toro e21:
Single 7AH battery (purchased separately)
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Put the toro into eco mode and take runs at half the width. Easier on you and the battery, doesn't bog down, goes longer on one battery.
Seems to me, the only thing those push behind electric machines are good for, is walkways, patios, decks and other light duty work. For the kind of snow y'all get up in Canada, you need a medium to large 2 stage gas blower.
A single stage Toro 821 with a 252cc engine will work fine. The battery powered Toro is along the lines of a 721 but I'll say the latter is about 20% stronger. When you step up to the 821 with the bigger engine, it tends to not bog at all. A two stage will throw further, but in a subdivision, you'll be tossing it on their driveways.
@@Todd.T Yeah the throwing distance seems fine. It really seems to be an issue with the engine boggin down in the compact snow. That's what gets frustrating and where the two stage would be much better suited.
I tend to agree, but these kind of snow storms only happen 2-5 times per winter. With a smaller machine, its a bit more work on those events... but not a big deal. I rather do that and have a more compact machine.
A single stage machine can handle near anything you can put it through. Even a couple of feet at the EOD. It's just a matter how much time and energy YOU want to expend. The machine itself won't wear out. That's for sure. My 2011 Toro 221 has been through some serious storms and never failed me. I can only imagine that electrics extra torque would handle it even better. Just have to consider battery run time. Two 7.5Ah batteries should handle most situations. Nice demo showing two very capable units.
@@Todd.T the 252cc engine is alot of power for such a small machine in the power clear and snow master series which topically have a 212cc.. the 252 in the power Max 24" and 26" is a 8HP snow clearing beast..
You can't beat Toro whether it's gas or electric. I was on the fence about getting an Ego but i went with a Toro Power Clear 821 QZE and i couldn't be happier with it. It goes above and beyond what it's meant to do. Especially, the end of the driveway dreaded crap the plows leave behind.
Both machines work better when you do not take such a large cut. If you take 35% width the machine will go longer. I have the Toro and so far I am very pleased.
This is the most Canadian video I’ve ever seen
HA! I'll take that as a compliment ;)
Men like to compare whose toy is bigger, longer and stronger
Yeah,when the first thing they thought of to compare is "how far do they each throw snow" ... LOL Lil' Tip, Guyz: that's why they install a DIRECTIONAL thrower -- so that doesn't MATTER.
The Ego is an overpriced fad...GO TORO!
To be fair, did you ever exchange each other snow blower for a few weeks or even a winter to get a better comparison on your neighbour's model before deciding which one you prefer overall? But there are other factors to take into account: customer service, time to charge the battery, the ease to get the replacement parts in your area (like the scraper bar) and the batteries, the lifespan of each battery, how easy is it to fold them for storage, the cost of the replacement parts, etc.
Short answer, yes we tried both machines extensively... The Toro single stage is much better than the Ego single stage. We have both since sold these machines and each bought a two stage ego and two stage Toro. Next big storm we will do the same video comparing these new machines. For now, seems like both machines are super strong and there should not be much difference this time. Stay tuned for the next video.
@@NanoStudio9 Can you explain why the Toro e21 is better even if the Ego SNT2114 offers a longer warranty on the machine and the battery and can use 2 batteries instead of 1 and it seems easier to fold? Can both machine handles icy/wet snow left by the plow truck? I'm living in Quebec, so we're having all type of snow...
@@WuFei0707 The toro is really a much stronger machine. For the icy QC snow, only the Toro e21 can handle clearing the snow plow rut at the road. My Ego SNT2114 kept chocking and turning off when working icy stuff. The motor simply isn't strong enough and I sold it. But my Ego two stage has no issue clearing any snow I've tried it with. Very strong machine.
I see a lot of replies in the comments that a 2-stage is better (I think you sold these for a 2-stage). Well...yeah, of course! My question is, how do these two electric single-stage blowers compare to a gas single-stage blower? Like a regular Toro?
@@rob21 I’m not sure, but my ego two stage is a lot stronger than my neighbour’s gas machines. I would guess the toro single stage is probably stronger than gas single stage, but the ego single stage was very weak.
Nice comparison. I ended up with the ego & love it. Very happy to be rid of my old stinky gas blower! I'm down in southern Michigan, so not quite as much snow as our friends in CA, but still a fair amount & usually do the drive, walks & 3 neighbors walks & always have a little battery left at the end.
Sure……
Thanks for the comparison, seems like they both good machines. Not only seems that the Toro throws further, the stream seems finer and it doesn’t throw as much snow on top of it self unlike the ego, you can always have a 2nd battery on standby, not to mention you can get the power shovel to go with it.
By the way, lift your ego slightly and it will drive itself forward.
I agree Gary. In using both machines, the Toro is a bit "cleaner", does not shoot the snow in front of itself nor on top of itself. It also pulls itself better than the Ego. I still prefer having both batteries in the machine since I often deplete both of my Ego batteries in a single snow clearing. Overall though, not much difference between both machines.
@@NanoStudio9 yeah I ended up purchasing the Ego for same reason. 2114 with the steel auger.
I was ready to pull the trigger on the Ego until I saw BBB rating of F for the company. It seems that customer service leaves a lot to be desired.
Until you remember that most people that write something on the BBB site almost always go there to complain and rarely to praise a product and if the machines were as bad as the EGO BBB rating, there wouldn't be so many people praising the machines outside of the BBB. Also, if you go to BBB's site and Toro's comments you'll discover they're also full of complaints yet Toro gets an A+ rating. I think that might be simply because Toro responds with their cookie cutter responses and that affects ratings. Bottom line is none of these companies are good enough in my book because there's no meaningful consumer protection laws in North America.
@@dovan4092 BBB rating is mostly how the company deals with customer complaints and not product quality. Ego seems to ignore customer issues.
I've used ~25 lb $250 18" 40v Snow Joe blower for a few years; it's OK but a little underpowered. I'm going to buy either a Toro or Ego single stage this fall when the Black Friday/Cyber Week type sales hit. I'd buy a 2-stage but with a small garage I don't have room for one and the driveway is just a "3 car".
Here's one thing that's pushing me to Toro - the closest Ego service center is 40 miles away, whereas there are four Toro service centers within 10 miles, the closest being 1-1/2 miles away. That's significant. Warranty service and parts.
big rich neighborhood
China vs USA. USA for the win with the Toro. Its close but Toro throws further. That looks like an older Toro as the new 60v E21 comes with a 7.5ah battery rather than a 7ah.
Dogs are fond of plowing powder snow with their head. I think it's because the whole world smells different when it's newly covered in snow.
Canadians are so polite. So refreshing.
Why thank you kind sir.
Yeah we American's could learn a thing or two. Just sayin...(g)
Wished Ego or Toro made a hybrid (like the Snow Joe) where can use a plug when battery dies
The toro looks great- but I think the battery takes quite a while to charge. Not sure - don't own one.
I do have an ego and they're pretty darn good.
Battery will charge in about 40 min. Not bad.
If you get a lot of snow frequently a 2 stage is probably what you need.
That being said, we had 22 in. (56 cm) and I went out maybe 3 times to clear.
You can recharge the batteries and also get warm and recharge yourself with some food and a coffee -
then go back out later.
My neighbor came over twice to help with the end of the driveway (plows) - but even his two stage gas engine bogged down
if he pushed it a little too much.
A third time I used just the ego on a foot to 18 in. at the driveway end . Just skimmed the top with a shovel in spots then
did the 'shave' technique - and it cleared it.
That amount of snow was an exception. Usually get a third of that amount in a storm. it depends on one's needs according
their own conditions - but the Ego is impressive.
Your neighbours gas model bogging down under the pressure 😅 i bet it wasn't a Toro.. those 252cc engines on the Toro are a beast.. it was alot of snow this year for sure i was out side cleaning up 6 days a week at one point with decent dumps
@@joebrown9621 I just put the Ego in the basement for the summer today. It is nice that there isn't anything special you have to do with it for storage. Getting 22 in. in a day is not normal here, so something the size of the single stage Ego will usually be ok. for most circumstances. I've been thinking of a decent gas blower esp. for the end of the driveway to handle the town snowplow stuff, and as a backup for the Ego. we'll see - maybe next year.
Ill keep my Ariens Path Pro 21.
Ego does make a 24-inch two stage snowblower. Still slightly bigger. But I'd imagine it won't take up as much space as a 26in two stage snowblower in the garage. I don't don't want I've only seen reviews on them.
Oh I didn't know where was a 24" two stage. Would have been nice but they were sold out everywhere...
Merci pour la comparaison! Super utile
Good to see a head-to-head between two of the best battery-powered snowblowers.
After the Jan 17 storm, I used my Toro e21 with a 7.5 ah battery to clear the driveway. We got 34 cm of snow which was a couple of cm over the intake of the Toro. I got my two-car driveway cleared and ran out of battery on the sidewalk. Also, it was ~ -25 C outside, which impacts the battery life. By the time snowplows came around, the battery had charged for round two.
When I was shopping for a snowblower, I looked for an all-steel auger to help with the end of the driveway snow. At the time, EGO only had the rubber auger model. I saved $150 on the Toro compared to today's prices which means I can get another 7.5ah battery later, and the cost will be the same as the EGO.
From trying the Toro and Ego, I find the Toro a bit cleaner (does not shoot the snow forward as much). It also tends to throw the snow a bit faster. But I really like having the two battery combo on the Ego. So much less to worry about. From what I can tell, both machines are very closely matched and you can't really go wrong with either of them.
Please tell us were you are getting an additional 7.5Ah battery for $150? I'm not following the math. Thanks.
@@ralphfraumeni6190 I did not get a battery for $150. I saved $150 on the E21 compared to current price.
I'd like to see it again with both deflectors at the same angle! Great video!
Ya, not exactly a scientific comparison. We don't know a lot of details. For example, which batteries were used for the EGO? They have different ones and that matters.
@@dovan4092 Being as amp hours really only makes a difference in the duration of usage not as much in short blip testing like this I don't think it would change much of at all.
It would literally just be 56 volts versus 60 volts
If this were A head-to-head test to see which one lasted the longest then yeah we probably want to see both using the same amp hour batteries, but it's not, it's simply a throwing comparison.
The output of the 2.5 amp hour battery versus the five amp hour battery versus the 10 amp hour battery is identical as it's regulated by the battery management system (BMS).
Whether that's the same for the Toro I don't know, but what I can tell you is that the ego holds consistent output until the batteries are close to depletion no matter the mAh thanks to the management system.
I often use my 10 Ah lawn mower batteries in lieu of my 2.5ah and 5Ah batteries. There is absolutely no noticeable difference at all other than duration.
What about the huge snow bank pushed by the city that blocks your driveway? Can you use those snowblower? Im getting a 2-stage electric snowblower.. but they are very expensive, over $3000 cad in 2023-24 for a Toro. I don't have a big driveway and i have a snow shelter. But the city pushing the 4 feet of snow against the driveway entrance is really killing me,
No not these single stages, we sold them. We did another video with 2-stages. And I would say yes they can clear that snow bank by chipping away at them. Cheers
I live in Montreal and to clear the hugh snow bank at the end of the driveway left by the city plows, nothing beats a 2 stage gas snowblower. I have both a gas and a plug in electric snowblower and the electric is pretty much useless.
So they both suck, thanks.
Got the EGO lawnmower, and it works great, but this EGO snow blower looks like it sucks.
The problem is when you get wet, heavy snow. And ice or crusty snow. How would it handle then?
Terrible, we sold them and got two-stages.
Terrible service and support. 😢
These are great little machines, for their size they move a very respectable amount of snow. Thanks for sharing, have a great weekend.
Thanks for the comparison! I am looking at both of these and I hope you could answer a question. I live in Winnipeg Manitoba on a pie-shaped lot so I don't have much room to throw the snow on either side of my driveway. What we found works best is throwing the snow onto the road and clearing the road. I just returned to Snow Joe iON8024 dual-stage (under warranty). I never found it to work well, the self-propelled wheels never seem to find grip and it struggles with anything more than 4 inches, cutting out regularly. It finally stopped working altogether this January after 2 and a half years. My driveway is about 50 feet long and 22 feet wide (plus the road). One of the big reasons I am considering either of these units is the steel construction (Ego even claims: " handles what the city snow plow leaves behind with ease; cutting through ice and snow"). The windrow the City leaves behind when they clear is full of ice and super densely packed chunks that a plastic auger can't handle. I would expect a rubber or plastic auger/construction to break on this. Do you think that either the EGO or Toro would be able to handle this? Which one do you think might be the better option? I like the idea of the longer runtime on the EGO, it folds up, it looks well built and has a longer warranty. However, Consumer Reports gives the Ego a score of 56 (3rd best) and the Toro a 70 (1st place). (If you do a Google image search for "windrow Winnipeg" to see what I'm talking about for what the plows leave behind). Thanks so much for your help!
Also, I'm curious about the construction of the intake housing on both units. From what I see online, the Ego looks like it is a full metal housing for the intake whereas the Toro looks like it has metal sides and the inside of the intake housing looks like black plastic. Also, the window the City leaves isn't supposed to be more than 8 inches tall (although it sometimes is taller).
As I slightly alluded to in the video, these little machines are not very good with the "rutts" at the road. I think I know exactly the type of snow you are talking about, we get those 1-2 times per winter. I'm starting to realize that it's not so much a question of the steel auger, its more a question of the stronger motor. The Toro seems to have stronger motor in it, I would go there. My Ego chokes up when I run ice chunks through it. If you are patient, you will get through pretty much any snow fall... but not easily. I'm contemplating going two stage next winter. Not because it throws farther, but for the stronger motor.
Thanks for the reply. I may have to go back to a 2 stage again to get the power/performance I am looking for. Although it does sound like either of these units would manage >95% of what they may encounter
@@bazin-c If you are patient, it will handle what ever snow dump... but yeah I think I'm also going to a 2 stage ego next year. I'll probably keep this to clear off decks, skating rink...
I too live in Winnipeg. I have a single stage Honda HS720 and a dual stage 27 inch craftsman. We got pummeled this year with snow! Overall I would say I used my single stage Honda 95% of the time, it chewed through the windrows. Dual stage I saved for snow drifts that were just too tall, thanks to the wind blowing snow to one side of my driveway.
It’s great to have both machines, however if I were to pick one I would get a single stage, it’s way faster for 90% of the snow we get.
Please list the exact model numbers so we know what we're looking at.
If I'm not wrong, I believe they are comparing the toro e21 with a single 7.5Ah vs the ego STN2114 with 2x7.5Ah.
But there are other factors to take into account: customer service, time to charge, the ease to get the replacement parts (like the scraper bar) and the batteries, the lifespan of each battery, how easy is it to fold them for storage, the cost of those parts, etc.
Well done, yes precisely those models.
Single stage and electric? Talk about starting with two strikes against you..
Ha! True, we sold these and got the electric two-stages.
EV: A solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Solves a lot of problems, but nothing to do with the environment. I’ll take less maintenance, no gas trips, no nonsense any day.
@@huston345 let’s see how long last……my snowblower is 22 yrs old.
@@chiefjoseph8154 gas engines have about 3000x more moving parts than electric engines. The batteries will go bad and need replaced, but as long as they keep producing them I would think they will be just as reliable.