I am a frequent acoustic live player and I have a lot of pupils I give guitar lessons. Here's what I think and experience: I am a real tone-freak and work a lot at my sound, I've tried lots of things like tube mics, Sennheiser 441, Small & large condensor mics, piezo-upgrade-pedals like the Fishmans, combinations of all kinds. I think the reverb pedal is very important (I use a Digitech with Lexicon reverbs) and a unnoticable amount of chorus MXR M134 (to make it sound wide) and the right EQ, to get rid of the annoying piezo high freqs' . Most of all beginner pupils do not even notice the difference between a single coil and a humbucker. The audience hear the songs, the singer, the groove and the ambience. As long that's okay I'm satisfied with my piezo-guitarsound drowned in a little beautiful amount off modulated reverb in stereo. It's a 'guitarist-thing' to hear the piezo. Don't emphasize the highs but make the mids sound beautiful. Don't strum to hard with a hard pick ( I use a 0.60mm dunlop) or use the fingers/nails and get a singer that sings very well. No problems with the piezo!!! Most people in the audience don't care about the guitar unfortunately.....
Sounds very nice. Side idea: I would love a BOSS pedal that allowed me to plug an acoustic guitar into an electric amp. I am in a cover band and most of the songs are rock and pop but some are acoustic an it would be nice to not have to take an extra amp or rely on the PA.
Duncan Earley hi mate, I know you said about not wanting to plug into the pa, but I have one of the boss acoustic simulator pedals that I plug an electric guitar into and then that goes into the pa, works well enough for covers in a noisy environment like a pub, then you can at least reduce your guitar carrying requirements? I also use it for an acoustic preamp to plug an acoustic guitar straight into the pa. it might not be exactly what you meant, but might help you. They come up reasonably cheap on flea bay most days. I think there is an AC-2 (old one) and an AC3 (new one), I've had the -2 for years and has done me good service. Good luck with your endeavours my friend.
Also, forgot to mention, it has 2 outputs, one for your electric guitar amp and a separate one for the effect out which you can run straight to the pa. then the pedal switches between the two outputs. If you only use 1 output, it switches both signals into the single amp.
Thanks for the video. I can't get used to the way a piezo pickup destroys everything I like in the sound of a guitar. I do understand why people still want to use it onstage because the electric signal is very usable. But I can't use it, because every single time I hit a note it feels like somebody's kicking my butt.
Yes the piezo destroys it and this pedal does close to sweet fa. I don't understand how some people think it's ok. Try 3 Sigma audio or a Hotone acoustic simulator pedal. They actually sound like an acoustic.
I feel as if Pete plays best when hes alone. I'm unsure if its more of the fact that he gets more confidence by himself or the fact that he can focus more. I don't know, but his playing is great. Great Review also, tone was great.
Hmmmm. I like the idea of the ambience control - ie. reverb - but the lack of any eq, even a basic 'tone' knob is an issue for me. Also I don't see the need for it to be housed in a standard Boss stompbox.
not only that, if you hear the dry guitar sound it's already an awesome sound and very likable too. i am curious to know how this pedal sounds with a low end to mid range guitar...
It's not a true "dry" sound because his acoustic electric already has a preamp built-in. A better test would have been a piezo pickup without a preamp in the chain, into the BOSS
I played it in my house it was alright clear but when I cranked it up with my other clean pedals it went distortion on me what happened and I had feedback ugh😩
Good to see Slovak made Dowina guitars making an appearance😀. However, BOSS hasn't been very subtle in copying even the colour of the yamaha acoustic Magicstomp an AG stomps with this pedal I'd say. Both Do a much better job of mic and resonance emulation I'd say (I have all 3).
What about plugging electric guitar thru ? I'm looking to go direct with electric guitar and pedal board to a little mixer listening with headphones (living in a flat), don't really know what to look after. Greetings from France !
Great demo. Thanks. I have an AD-2 on order that is supposed to ship as soon as available. I'll be using it with either my Taylor 814ce or my Martin HD-28. Curious as to how you have the Fishman electronics set on the guitar. Totally flat perhaps? Lowered midrange?? That Dowina guitar is sweet too. First I'd heard of those. Couldn't find anyplace online where they are available in the states though. Any thoughts? Thanks again.
Andertons Music Co I think you should make a video that's about "How to enhance the Acoustic Piezo Sound" where you compare the line out of one acoustic or a few different guitars and run it straight into the interface, than into this pedal, the bodyrez, or the TC Mimiq Doubler, and so on. If I remember correctly, Takamine has these tube preamps, don't know if you stock these. And I'm sure there are more devices I don't know about that could do a job. I think that video would be interesting for all Acoustic Paradiso viewers, because you see under every video of that series comments like "The piezo sound is so much worse than the mic'd signal"
I have the regular Boss EQ pedal and just bought the pre-amp AD-2 pedal. At first, I only used the AD-2 pedal on my Fender Acoustasonic 90 amp and it actually cut back some of the wattage I felt. Initially, I was disappointed since I wanted the “power up” effect that the regular EQ pedal has to offer but then I decided to use both pedals at the same time to see what would happen. The results were very satisfying. I managed to once again have extra sound power with the regular EQ pedal and restore the acoustic resonance with the AD-2 pedal. Basically, I’m using the regular EQ pedal to boost power while using the AD-2 pedal for that crisp acoustic sound. I’m using an active EMG pick up.
I bought one of these for a nylon string acoustic guitar and it really makes no detectable difference to the sound through a PA on stage. I don't see the point of using the AD2.
What I don't understand is why it is a pedal? Surely this sort of circuitry is a set and leave type deal rather than an on/off effect. Boss would have been more interesting if they had saved the space of the foot switch and added another feature.
hey guys im trying to work out what gives the guitar that silky synthetic sound (it sounds computerized or something, instead of bright, brassy guitar sounding/What it would sound like without going through an amp... please help?
1. Ambience is reverb. 2. Acoustic resonance restores the acoustic sound that is lost by a piezo pickup. 3. Notch filters out feedback onstage. 4. The preamp boosts a signal from a passive pickup.
One is the input, one the output, and one is the line out. The line out is great if you want to stop an inexperienced sound guy from messing around with your settings too much
For a Boss pedal it sounds remarkably good, but I still prefer the built-in pre-amps of my Takamines... They might not have ambience, but they do have a built-in tuner and in one case an exciter :-) I can get the ambience (reverb) from either any of my mixers or my ZT Lunchbox acoustic if the gig is small enough...
When I plug my effects through my loop station and bypass my amplifier and go directly into the PA. My distortion pedals sound like crap. I'm thinking of getting a preamp to help my distortion sound through the PA directly
I bought a Taylor that has the ES 2 system, while I would still agree that piezo's are a huge compromise, this system sounds good enough for me and I've had people comment on the great tone I'm getting. I wouldn't go as far as great but it certainly does the job.
from what I've learnt, you just have to approach them differently. once you plug it in, this isn't really an acoustic guitar anymore. it requires different approach.
Weird if it has a Di Out its not using a standard XLR output. I believe the Ambience knob sounds like reverb. And the Acoustic Resonance knob sounds like Chorus.
Sounds to me like "ambience" does what any reverb pedal set on "room" would do, and "acoustic resonance" does what any EQ pedal would do if you basically push the high frequencies. Obviously, none of these changes affect the basic problem: piezo pickups, the worst invention since plastic guitar backs. Look, it's a bit of a hassle to deal with microphones, but singers have to live with them, they don't implant microchips into their vocal cords and claim it sounds natural. Listen to live footage from the 70s involving acoustic guitars. It sounds good. No microphone-no air. No resonance. I appreciate the way this player hits short notes, that way you can hear that piezo quack very clearly. Even with new strings and lovely playing, the guitar is is not "breathing". No stomp box can bring that wood back to life.
Very well said. Check out acoustic rigs from players like Mike Dawes or Petteri Sariola from the fingetstyle world, who solved the problem beautifully with the replacement of piezo pickups by magnetic and transducer ones.
@@JohannesLabusch uh! Ikr? My highschool band always use piezo pickups and I don't know how the audience feel but to me it sounds like something punching into your ears. It's so horrible that using piezo itself is a sacrilegious act. Now I use a combo combination of transducers and mic (k&k trinity) and a magnetic pickup. However, if you want a fuller picture, this is what I've learned after 3 years being a "non-piezo user": there're several reasons why piezo is still popular. First is it's pretty cheap and easy to find. Second is the feedback control is awesome to compare with other system like mic or even transducer (you have to learn to live with feedback using a mic/trans). And thirdly, the tone. Piezo sounds horrible itself if plugged straight to the PA, but with a good amp designed for acoustic guitar, it may sounds pretty decent (like acus or aer amps, but they are generally pretty expensive). Here's another thing to consider, the opposite of piezo is not really the answer either. I used to think the closest a pickup system to capture the natural sound of the guitar, the better, thats why I had high hope on systems like K&K trinity because it has a mic and a transducer, you cannot have a more "wooden tone" than that, right? Well, in fact after using it for a while I still feel something lacking. It somehow sounds too..."warm", too "woody" and really dies out in the band mix. Think about it, a studio-tier quality sound does not also need great mics (or pickups in this situation), but also a great treated room. And that's why the result of my k&k trinity system although still sounds way better than a mere piezo, it catches too much "air" in the guitar body and therefore not "punchy", not "cold" enough. I think that's why people BLEND the mic or transducer with another "cold" pickup like piezo or magnetic. For example, Tommy Emmanuel's system is a combination of both mic and a piezo plugged into a AER compact 60 amp. Or my personal favorite set up, Petteri Sariola's magnetic combined with several transducers (this system is particularly popular in Asia tho). In short, "cold" pickups like piezo or magnetic sound terrible itself, but if you blend in some warmness of mics or transducers it can sounds very great, with the advantage of better controlled feedback too. Hope it helps!
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It's in the works they mentioned it in the sound like alice in chains video. It might be the next video actually (They shoot a bunch in one go and upload one every week).
Hard to tell how good that pedal is with a crappy sounding acoustic. All you hear is that under saddle snap which I hate. Guessing an eq is a better option.
Quick question everybody. Has anyone actually tried this pedal on a guitar equipped with transducers and no onboard preamp? Help would be much appreciated.
I can't get over that I hate piezo pickups. It sounds too twangy and noisy. They work fairly well when picking or playing softly, or if you're just laying some rythm in a large live band, but for someone like me who just plays acoustic guitar (rather hard) and sings they always suck.
Why is it that acoustic guitar pickups always seem to have that odd farty sound to them, especially on lower notes and chords? I don't know enough about how guitar pickups work to figure that out and it always bothers me when the otherwise wonderful sound on a guitar is tarnished by it.
GuyNamedSean that's just the way they sound. acoustic pickups aren't meant to recreate the guitar's natural unplugged sound. they have thier own signature sound. if you want it to sound the same then you need a mic.
Most of the time, an acoustic pickup is just a piezo strip just under the saddle of the guittar. The main benefit of this kind of pickup is that it's not really prone to feedback, and it is also quite cheap to produce. But as you say, most of the time, it just doesn't sound good, or "realistic". It requires a good onboard preamp to transform it's sound, or an external pedal / preamp. The higher end guitars usually have systems with a piezo pickup + an internal microphone, and an onboard preamp which lets you mix both together. You should listen to Tommy Emmanuel's guitar, it's a custom Maton guitar but he always gets his sound right, with a piezo and a microphone I believe (he doesn't use an external mic on stage).
I find that turning the volume down on the guitar and boosting it on the amp instead, can help a lot in terms of getting rid of that farty plastic sound and making the thing sound more like an acoustic.
Dr. Harmonica This verb is more subtle than most of the ones included in most live sound consoles. If you don't want the verb from the pre-amp turn dow the ambiance knob.
Sam Vieira There is no audio compression from YT. What makes you think they have time to apply ab audio compressor to videos? They don't even look at them.
Charles Seper they dont need to look at them, they might apply compression when you upload the video automatically or even when streaming! When you upload a video they automatically do a enhance in video that we they ask you if you want to keep the changes or not, If you dont ear or know about compression you wont be able to ear it
yeah i don't hear anything that impressive about the pedal... what's the point of using it then?... maybe it makes lil bit different if ure using a 400 dollar semi acoustic guitar i guess.....
Hey Pete i just wanted to say how much i love listening to you play around and make amazing melodies
I am a frequent acoustic live player and I have a lot of pupils I give guitar lessons. Here's what I think and experience: I am a real tone-freak and work a lot at my sound, I've tried lots of things like tube mics, Sennheiser 441, Small & large condensor mics, piezo-upgrade-pedals like the Fishmans, combinations of all kinds. I think the reverb pedal is very important (I use a Digitech with Lexicon reverbs) and a unnoticable amount of chorus MXR M134 (to make it sound wide) and the right EQ, to get rid of the annoying piezo high freqs' . Most of all beginner pupils do not even notice the difference between a single coil and a humbucker. The audience hear the songs, the singer, the groove and the ambience. As long that's okay I'm satisfied with my piezo-guitarsound drowned in a little beautiful amount off modulated reverb in stereo. It's a 'guitarist-thing' to hear the piezo. Don't emphasize the highs but make the mids sound beautiful. Don't strum to hard with a hard pick ( I use a 0.60mm dunlop) or use the fingers/nails and get a singer that sings very well. No problems with the piezo!!! Most people in the audience don't care about the guitar unfortunately.....
sabias palabras !!!
Pete could demo an outhouse and I'd buy it. That man is amazing.
I'm actually looking for an outhouse so that could be great.
Always wonderful playing. Makes me want to loop segments and just listen and chill. Thank you for the video. Im in USA always enjoy Andertons
My like was for the awesome playing during the finger picked section!
One of the best demo for this pedal. Thanks.
Good idea Boss. Acoustic pickups usually sound horrible to me so adding back the resonance makes sense.
Nice playing Pete! And AD-2 sounds great!
Love you guys!! Anytime I’m thinking of buying something I watch your videos
Sounds very nice. Side idea: I would love a BOSS pedal that allowed me to plug an acoustic guitar into an electric amp. I am in a cover band and most of the songs are rock and pop but some are acoustic an it would be nice to not have to take an extra amp or rely on the PA.
Duncan Earley hi mate, I know you said about not wanting to plug into the pa, but I have one of the boss acoustic simulator pedals that I plug an electric guitar into and then that goes into the pa, works well enough for covers in a noisy environment like a pub, then you can at least reduce your guitar carrying requirements? I also use it for an acoustic preamp to plug an acoustic guitar straight into the pa. it might not be exactly what you meant, but might help you. They come up reasonably cheap on flea bay most days. I think there is an AC-2 (old one) and an AC3 (new one), I've had the -2 for years and has done me good service. Good luck with your endeavours my friend.
Also, forgot to mention, it has 2 outputs, one for your electric guitar amp and a separate one for the effect out which you can run straight to the pa. then the pedal switches between the two outputs. If you only use 1 output, it switches both signals into the single amp.
Vey nice playing, love it!
Thanks for strumming . Smooth player !
You're always looking for that sweet spot for your knob
show us what it sounds like on a guitar without a built in preamp please
Ceded tops will always make you smile :)
Beautifle playing, well done. Maybe i'll buy the pedal in the future.
Thanks for the video. I can't get used to the way a piezo pickup destroys everything I like in the sound of a guitar.
I do understand why people still want to use it onstage because the electric signal is very usable.
But I can't use it, because every single time I hit a note it feels like somebody's kicking my butt.
Yes the piezo destroys it and this pedal does close to sweet fa. I don't understand how some people think it's ok.
Try 3 Sigma audio or a Hotone acoustic simulator pedal. They actually sound like an acoustic.
Makes guitar sound like crap I pulled mine out much better now
wow, that pedal makes a great tone and sound! Thanks
Still sounds like a quacky piezo I'm afraid. Great vids though guys, keep it up :D
Great sounding pedal. All I use is that and a compressor for my acoustic set up.
I feel as if Pete plays best when hes alone. I'm unsure if its more of the fact that he gets more confidence by himself or the fact that he can focus more. I don't know, but his playing is great. Great Review also, tone was great.
I agree entirely *****.
Increíble video, un abrazo desde Colombia
What if we use an amplifier designed for electric guitar ?
I think it'd be good to have an image of the pedal settings on screen throughout the entire video.
Hmmmm. I like the idea of the ambience control - ie. reverb - but the lack of any eq, even a basic 'tone' knob is an issue for me. Also I don't see the need for it to be housed in a standard Boss stompbox.
It is good for nylon strings guitar?
I need to check my pedals,I think I got a pedal that distorts but I used it anyway🤔
What is better, Boss AD 2 or Tc Body rez?
I own a Dowina DCE555, you have to make a video of those great guitars so the world will know!!! :)
To those who feel the pedal barely makes a difference, it's probably because he's plugged into an interface that cost almost 3000 pounds....
not only that, if you hear the dry guitar sound it's already an awesome sound and very likable too. i am curious to know how this pedal sounds with a low end to mid range guitar...
It's not a true "dry" sound because his acoustic electric already has a preamp built-in. A better test would have been a piezo pickup without a preamp in the chain, into the BOSS
hi musicbliss, im looking at this video before buying the pedal at ur store..lol
what will it sound if i use this pedal on low/mid-range guitar and budget amp. haha. so that i can proceed to buy from your store.
What's he playing 2:20 through 4:10 ?
His playing made me forget this was a pedal demo for most of the video
Pete’s playing is truly amazing
thank god pete can play acoustic. i hate electric only guitar players that demo an acoustic and play like they're in a punk band and a les paul
cheeseUout I feel ya
Wdym power chord progressions on acoustic rule! /s
Right !
I played it in my house it was alright clear but when I cranked it up with my other clean pedals it went distortion on me what happened and I had feedback ugh😩
Good to see Slovak made Dowina guitars making an appearance😀. However, BOSS hasn't been very subtle in copying even the colour of the yamaha acoustic Magicstomp an AG stomps with this pedal I'd say. Both Do a much better job of mic and resonance emulation I'd say (I have all 3).
Hello, thanks for the video. It works good on nylon strings too?
What type of music are you playing? I love it!
What about plugging electric guitar thru ? I'm looking to go direct with electric guitar and pedal board to a little mixer listening with headphones (living in a flat), don't really know what to look after. Greetings from France !
WHAT IS THE RIFF YOU'RE PLAYING AT THE BEGINNING ?
Came for the pedal, stayed for the playing.
Hi! Output and line out, where's plug in? Thanks!
Great demo. Thanks. I have an AD-2 on order that is supposed to ship as soon as available. I'll be using it with either my Taylor 814ce or my Martin HD-28.
Curious as to how you have the Fishman electronics set on the guitar. Totally flat perhaps? Lowered midrange??
That Dowina guitar is sweet too. First I'd heard of those. Couldn't find anyplace online where they are available in the states though. Any thoughts?
Thanks again.
how does this match up against the TC bodyrez?
Hi Chris. Come in and try them out, head to head.. Thank you for watching.
Andertons Music Co I think you should make a video that's about "How to enhance the Acoustic Piezo Sound" where you compare the line out of one acoustic or a few different guitars and run it straight into the interface, than into this pedal, the bodyrez, or the TC Mimiq Doubler, and so on. If I remember correctly, Takamine has these tube preamps, don't know if you stock these. And I'm sure there are more devices I don't know about that could do a job.
I think that video would be interesting for all Acoustic Paradiso viewers, because you see under every video of that series comments like "The piezo sound is so much worse than the mic'd signal"
I actually just uploaded a video where I plug my Taylor GS Mini into a Mimiq Doubler.
Mate, I've got the cool tube tak pre-amp. I find it to unnatural and run it without the tube mixed much at all. they're new versions may be better.
would that also work with a Risa Ukulele stick?
Will it work with the Boss katana 50 mark 2
What's the best. ....boss AD-2 or body rez? Tks
I have the regular Boss EQ pedal and just bought the pre-amp AD-2 pedal.
At first, I only used the AD-2 pedal on my Fender Acoustasonic 90 amp and it actually cut back some of the wattage I felt. Initially, I was disappointed since I wanted the “power up” effect that the regular EQ pedal has to offer but then I decided to use both pedals at the same time to see what would happen.
The results were very satisfying. I managed to once again have extra sound power with the regular EQ pedal and restore the acoustic resonance with the AD-2 pedal. Basically, I’m using the regular EQ pedal to boost power while using the AD-2 pedal for that crisp acoustic sound. I’m using an active EMG pick up.
We have the same amp and pedals! Haha
I bought one of these for a nylon string acoustic guitar and it really makes no detectable difference to the sound through a PA on stage. I don't see the point of using the AD2.
I realize the last comments were 2 years ago on this. I am wanting to know if it makes a difference with nylon strings?
What does notch knob do?
It's a narrow filter that is aimed at combatting feedback.
what a fresh Pete
hey Pete, how does it match the BBE acoustimax?
which Model of that Dowina is ??
Ambience? I already have a reverb pedal.
Hi guys! I need help. I already have the ad 2. Is it also applicable having an eq pedal? Is it much better?
My set up is an acoustic set up.
What I don't understand is why it is a pedal?
Surely this sort of circuitry is a set and leave type deal rather than an on/off effect.
Boss would have been more interesting if they had saved the space of the foot switch and added another feature.
What would happen if you used this pedal with an electric guitar?
hey guys im trying to work out what gives the guitar that silky synthetic sound (it sounds computerized or something, instead of bright, brassy guitar sounding/What it would sound like without going through an amp... please help?
Does this boost the volume?
Ross Mc no
where is the reverb coming from ? someone name 3 things this pedal will do for you please ? Thanks !
1. Ambience is reverb. 2. Acoustic resonance restores the acoustic sound that is lost by a piezo pickup. 3. Notch filters out feedback onstage. 4. The preamp boosts a signal from a passive pickup.
@@tomedwards81 Thanks !
Hola buenas noches.Porque en el pedal hay tres conexiones y para donde van
One is the input, one the output, and one is the line out. The line out is great if you want to stop an inexperienced sound guy from messing around with your settings too much
For a Boss pedal it sounds remarkably good, but I still prefer the built-in pre-amps of my Takamines... They might not have ambience, but they do have a built-in tuner and in one case an exciter :-) I can get the ambience (reverb) from either any of my mixers or my ZT Lunchbox acoustic if the gig is small enough...
Mac Man For use on stage, no one will notice that slight reverb anyway. 🤘
Can someone please explain what the "line out" does on the pedal and what it is?
Cameron Naim Line out is the same as running out of a DI except it's using a stereo connector (trs) rather then a mic connector probably to save space
You send the line out to a mixer/interface. The other output I would presume goes to an acoustic guitar amplifier.
I think most of the "change" in dynamics came from the variance in your playing style. I heard a touch of reverb effect but not much else.
The guitar builders need to use internal mics instead of that awful piezo pickups
Internal mics?
what guitar he plays?
One of these www.andertons.co.uk/search?query=dowina
When I plug my effects through my loop station and bypass my amplifier and go directly into the PA. My distortion pedals sound like crap. I'm thinking of getting a preamp to help my distortion sound through the PA directly
Well you definitely don’t want an acoustic preamp, I would suggest getting an “amp in a box” type pedal, preferably with some adjustable eq
Many people debate amps and stuff. Mostly a waste of time. But piezo pickups are a true horror story. Awful awful things.
I bought a Taylor that has the ES 2 system, while I would still agree that piezo's are a huge compromise, this system sounds good enough for me and I've had people comment on the great tone I'm getting. I wouldn't go as far as great but it certainly does the job.
from what I've learnt, you just have to approach them differently. once you plug it in, this isn't really an acoustic guitar anymore. it requires different approach.
Weird if it has a Di Out its not using a standard XLR output.
I believe the Ambience knob sounds like reverb. And the Acoustic Resonance knob sounds like Chorus.
6:18 what did you call me?!
Does this pedal actually do anything ?
Sounds to me like "ambience" does what any reverb pedal set on "room" would do, and "acoustic resonance" does what any EQ pedal would do if you basically push the high frequencies. Obviously, none of these changes affect the basic problem: piezo pickups, the worst invention since plastic guitar backs. Look, it's a bit of a hassle to deal with microphones, but singers have to live with them, they don't implant microchips into their vocal cords and claim it sounds natural. Listen to live footage from the 70s involving acoustic guitars. It sounds good. No microphone-no air. No resonance. I appreciate the way this player hits short notes, that way you can hear that piezo quack very clearly. Even with new strings and lovely playing, the guitar is is not "breathing". No stomp box can bring that wood back to life.
Very well said. Check out acoustic rigs from players like Mike Dawes or Petteri Sariola from the fingetstyle world, who solved the problem beautifully with the replacement of piezo pickups by magnetic and transducer ones.
@@huynhngocnamgiang Thanks. I've been on the anti piezo beat for years, but sometimes it seems like people literally don't hear the difference ...
@@JohannesLabusch uh! Ikr? My highschool band always use piezo pickups and I don't know how the audience feel but to me it sounds like something punching into your ears. It's so horrible that using piezo itself is a sacrilegious act. Now I use a combo combination of transducers and mic (k&k trinity) and a magnetic pickup.
However, if you want a fuller picture, this is what I've learned after 3 years being a "non-piezo user": there're several reasons why piezo is still popular. First is it's pretty cheap and easy to find. Second is the feedback control is awesome to compare with other system like mic or even transducer (you have to learn to live with feedback using a mic/trans). And thirdly, the tone. Piezo sounds horrible itself if plugged straight to the PA, but with a good amp designed for acoustic guitar, it may sounds pretty decent (like acus or aer amps, but they are generally pretty expensive).
Here's another thing to consider, the opposite of piezo is not really the answer either. I used to think the closest a pickup system to capture the natural sound of the guitar, the better, thats why I had high hope on systems like K&K trinity because it has a mic and a transducer, you cannot have a more "wooden tone" than that, right? Well, in fact after using it for a while I still feel something lacking. It somehow sounds too..."warm", too "woody" and really dies out in the band mix. Think about it, a studio-tier quality sound does not also need great mics (or pickups in this situation), but also a great treated room. And that's why the result of my k&k trinity system although still sounds way better than a mere piezo, it catches too much "air" in the guitar body and therefore not "punchy", not "cold" enough. I think that's why people BLEND the mic or transducer with another "cold" pickup like piezo or magnetic. For example, Tommy Emmanuel's system is a combination of both mic and a piezo plugged into a AER compact 60 amp. Or my personal favorite set up, Petteri Sariola's magnetic combined with several transducers (this system is particularly popular in Asia tho). In short, "cold" pickups like piezo or magnetic sound terrible itself, but if you blend in some warmness of mics or transducers it can sounds very great, with the advantage of better controlled feedback too.
Hope it helps!
HAs this actually been released yet?
pappawookee shipping starts in the mid of december.
i don't relly understan, what does this do?
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It's in the works they mentioned it in the sound like alice in chains video. It might be the next video actually (They shoot a bunch in one go and upload one every week).
Hard to tell how good that pedal is with a crappy sounding acoustic. All you hear is that under saddle snap which I hate. Guessing an eq is a better option.
Anyone else like it better without the pedal?
Yes. Sounded Better without.
Sounded better without the pedal, and I'm listening with JBL headphones.
Quick question everybody. Has anyone actually tried this pedal on a guitar equipped with transducers and no onboard preamp? Help would be much appreciated.
I can't get over that I hate piezo pickups. It sounds too twangy and noisy. They work fairly well when picking or playing softly, or if you're just laying some rythm in a large live band, but for someone like me who just plays acoustic guitar (rather hard) and sings they always suck.
Pontus Oskarsson thank you!
All I can hear is boss playing and reverb ?
I'm sorry, but Boss should have never quit making the AD-5. Every acoustic preamp they've come with since then has been a step backwards.
I don’t notice much of a difference when the effect is on. I think the Fishman products are superior.
Awesome playing and cool demo, but I have to say that I don't like the pickup system of the guitar...
I wish they'd do these videos with an LR baggs pickup. I love fishman amps but the pickups are awful
Why not use Everyman guitar some cheaper ones
Greetings! Please tell me, will this preamp fit the yamaha 104 sv electric violin?
It just takes a regular instrument cable in as far as I know
Anybody here tried using this with a yamaha silent guitar slg200s?
this is the pedal version of a Spider amp
Why is it that acoustic guitar pickups always seem to have that odd farty sound to them, especially on lower notes and chords? I don't know enough about how guitar pickups work to figure that out and it always bothers me when the otherwise wonderful sound on a guitar is tarnished by it.
GuyNamedSean that's just the way they sound. acoustic pickups aren't meant to recreate the guitar's natural unplugged sound. they have thier own signature sound. if you want it to sound the same then you need a mic.
Most of the time, an acoustic pickup is just a piezo strip just under the saddle of the guittar. The main benefit of this kind of pickup is that it's not really prone to feedback, and it is also quite cheap to produce. But as you say, most of the time, it just doesn't sound good, or "realistic". It requires a good onboard preamp to transform it's sound, or an external pedal / preamp. The higher end guitars usually have systems with a piezo pickup + an internal microphone, and an onboard preamp which lets you mix both together. You should listen to Tommy Emmanuel's guitar, it's a custom Maton guitar but he always gets his sound right, with a piezo and a microphone I believe (he doesn't use an external mic on stage).
I find that turning the volume down on the guitar and boosting it on the amp instead, can help a lot in terms of getting rid of that farty plastic sound and making the thing sound more like an acoustic.
Take the bloody reverb off. It masks the sound of the effect. My gramma's ol' washboard would sound good with enough reverb on it.
The reverb is from the pedal....
I have seperate reverbs on my mixer, my amp and on my effects pedal board. Why would I want another reverb effect? I'll answer that. I wouldn't.
Well then don't buy this, or turn the ambience knob down... It's a feature of the pedal.
Dr. Harmonica This verb is more subtle than most of the ones included in most live sound consoles. If you don't want the verb from the pre-amp turn dow the ambiance knob.
Ok, thanks. Appreciate the input.
Sounds absolutely unimpressive.
Call me anything but I wish this pedal had distortion.
Do sounds like my chemical romance
It kind of defeats the purpose to have a guitar with a preamp in it for demonstration.
Im hating youtube so much right now! There is so much compression again in this video!! I dont know why they started adding so much compression!!
Sam Vieira eh probably because they're cheap and want to save server space
That has zero to do with RUclips.
Charles Seper your mistaken my friend
Sam Vieira There is no audio compression from YT. What makes you think they have time to apply ab audio compressor to videos? They don't even look at them.
Charles Seper they dont need to look at them, they might apply compression when you upload the video automatically or even when streaming! When you upload a video they automatically do a enhance in video that we they ask you if you want to keep the changes or not, If you dont ear or know about compression you wont be able to ear it
It actually makes the tone worse. Good to know! Better to invest in a good pickup
Resonance knob just ruins the guitar sound... too bad
I don't think that guitar sounds great at all...
yeah i don't hear anything that impressive about the pedal... what's the point of using it then?... maybe it makes lil bit different if ure using a 400 dollar semi acoustic guitar i guess.....
you need to hear it in person. it is one of the few preamp pedals that makes a crappy pickup sound like an actual acoustic guitar