Renault Master / Vauxhall Movano not starting fault *Fixed*
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2021
- Investigating & fixing a 2014 Renault master that cranks over but won't start up. Van has plenty on fuel & power in the battery. No fault codes recorded in the ECU. Traced the fault to burnt out wiring connector on the low pressure fuel pump. new pump & repair wiring loom fitted to fix the issue.
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Started my van one day and it immediately turned off, thought the worst, took off the fuel line from the filter and plenty of diesel came through, diagnostics didnt come up with anything, tried to start it on easy start and it wouldn't start, gave all the symptoms of a snapped chain, listed it for sale as spare or repair and no one was interested, however came across this video and thought lets just give it a go, took off the connector and it was like new, no marks or damage, however when fitting the connector back it pushed in alot further and made a firm clicking noise, but it came off very easily, went and sprayed some more easy start and a few turns later it came back to life, thanks for the video and anyone going through this definitely give it a try 😊
👍👍 glad to hear it!
Thank you for taking the extra time to document this for the DIY-ers out there.
Cheers
No problem 👍 glad it helped
Non mechanic. I have the exact same problem, same vehicle. Burnt connector on the fuel pump, took pictures as i can't do the work myself as i don't have a workshop. The mechanics around me insist to diagnose that i ahev to pay for something i already know thanks to your video. Anyway i cleaned the connector and put it back and my van started! 😊 I will make an appointment to change that part hoping mechanics won't question me to try to get more money from me. Thank you so much ❤
Nice one , glad to hear it’s helped you get it going at least 👍👍
Thanks for posting had the same today bent pins back on my way in a hour will get a new loom .pins look fine in the sender .
Nice one, glad it helped you 👌👌👍
Thanks for the video; superb content that is sadly rare on RUclips these days. Led me straight to the problem on my mate’s crank but no start Master.
The loom had already be repaired at least once and failed again, burning out a pin on the pump and the connector.
Since the connector is jammed up against the body seam I’m guessing that vibration is gradually spreading the pins leading to poor contact, arcing and eventually failure.
The repair loom is now just over £100 inc VAT from Renault; upside is they keep them in stock…
Nice one! Glad to hear it’s helped .. thanks for the comments, much appreciated 😁
Man I just came to say a big thank you and that I hope that your God always takes good care of you. I just fixed my 2015 van from youre exact video. The only difference I notice its that the brakets bolts on my care where 16mm. In Romania the cost of the parts are 100euro pump and 65euro for the loom section.
Cheers mate!
PS: the link for pump its not working
Nice one! Glad to hear it 👍 thanks for letting me know , I’ve got a lot that need updating 👍
Just want to say thanks, got my van running again 👍
Arr nice one , glad to help! Thanks for the comment much appreciated 👍👍👌
Thanks for the share. We need this with french vans😀
thanks for the comment, glad to help 👌👍
Excellent video. I have a sudden stop start and cut out movano. Good as gold normally but noticed fuel level not sitting right when it had issues. Fingers crossed for me, excellent video and I can see why my engineers were not overhappy it needed doing. Annoying it seems to be common and a bit lap of the gods.
👍👍 thanks for the comment
Did you solve it?
Worked perfect , although a bit trickier on the ground. Thanks
Glad it helped 👍👍
Same issue with mine. Great advice worked perfectly
Glad to help , thanks for the comment 👌👍
Hi, could you please give me some advice regarding this video please? Urgently
Thank you so much, you have just saved my handicapcar 😄😃😀 i'am so so happy, i got my freedom back. Thank you, thank you, thank you! ❤
Glad I could help! 👍👍
Oefening baart kunst, mijn pomp draait soms ook niet. Ingebrand op 1 plaatsje. Het schijnt moet ge met een plankje onder de tank kloppen wanneer iemand start. En de pomp vernieuwen ipv dat dure wegslepen en repareren. Toch weer wat bijgeleerd hier bij een Engelsman. Mooie video!
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Thanks for sharing very informative video regards Eric 🔧👌💥🇮🇪
Thanks for the comment eric, much appreciated 👌
Very nice, thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for the comment , much appreciated 👌👍
Great video saved along of time went straight to the plug
Helpful video.. In days gone by many manufacturers would put a removable access plate in the floor to make the job easier.. Progress eh.
Thanks! yes making sensible repair methods seems to have gone out the window now! lol
Good tip mate 👍
Thanks 👍
Great Video.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment
Hi brilliant video very informative. I have a 2005 Interstar with what seems to be the same issue. Do you know where i can get a pump & the harness connector from for my model van?
Thanks brother!
Thanks for the comment 👌👍
Excellent!
Thanks for the comment , much appreciated 👌👍
Great vid, Just put a second pump into my movano,first one lasted about 300 miles. Going to change my 4 pin connector after watching this as mine looked a bit black and one of the terminals was melting, what size shrink tube did you use?
Thanks Ed! I can’t quite remember tbh as it all comes in a kit from vauxhall , I’m pretty sure it was the 5mm
Got an issue where on ignition the Engine Management light is flashing with crank but no start, OBD reader picks up ABS and Airbag modules BUT won't pick up anything on Engine, do you think this could be faulty ECU?
Hey mate quivk question....had a starting isfue with renault master about 8 months ago....no mechanic/ roadside assistance/ auto electrician could get a reading from ecu or pinpoint the problem...finally got it towed to renault dealer, who found it to be a problem with usm module (it sits on top of fuses in fuse box engine compartment (part number 284B67570R)....anyway, it has been running fine, until ladt week trying to start it a couple times, it wouldnt and..exactly same symptoms and dadhboard reading as original problems...anyway, i have a spare usm module unit....am i able to do a straight swap or does it have to be coded with a special renault computer or is there a trick way(?? So i could do it myself? I cant think what is causingvthe issue....it has been wet and damp (as it was when originally had problem) but there is no visible water damage. Since not starting couple times ladt week has been fine...but i remember it being intermittant last time begore it finally went into limp mode and had to be towed. Any suggestions appreciated.. thanks
Hi, great vid, we got our mechanic to replace the unit and the wiring and the van started, but it is running rough, any ideas?
possibly drawing air if one of the pipes isn't on correctly
Great video! Does that plug sometimes cause a slight stutter whilst driving do you know? Thanks Martin
I’ve not experienced that issue myself
what would you say the reason? just pump ware and extra amps or restrictions in the fuel system such as fuel filter?
many thanks for sharing.
subscribed 😀
Thanks for subscribing.. much appreciated 😃👌 . Ive seen it quite a few times, im not exactly sure why, could be to do with the pump wear or the original connector may have smaller pins that can't quite handle the amps.. the repair connector wire & pins are slightly thicker
Same car same problem here also 2014 with 78k
Our Bus got jump started maybe it was the cause of this burn
What do you think why this burn kinda happens to all of us ?
I'm considering fitting a diesel heater in my movano campervan.. do you know if theres any issue by connecting into the tank for its supply?
No I think you should be ok doing that Steve 👍
Hi pal did you have any issues putting the ring fastener on the fuel sender back on to the tank. As I have tried everything but doesn't seem to go back straight. Thanks
Yeah they can be bloody awkward , have u got a new ring? Has it been left off for a long time? If it’s left off for a long time ie 12h+ and the tank is full they can sometimes distort..
Hi mate amazing video!!
I think my van has the same problem could you tell me where are you based?
My van was in 2 garages and they couldn't fix it.
Hi Hope the video will help! Im based on the east coast , Lincolnshire .. I’m afraid I’m not taking any work on at the mo as my wife’s just had a baby .. thanks
Hi there, I have a Master 2010, I was getting a EGR code, the van was starting for 1 second and then stopping, I fitted a new EGR, same problem, now getting code P0100 problem air flow mass circuit any ideas, I can see diesel in the fuel lines, I don't think its the sender. any ideas..
Is p0100 the only code you’ve got? Is the immobiliser light going out?
OK thank you 👍
Welcome 👍
Perfect
Thanks for the comment 👌👍
Great video mate, thanks for let us know.. I have a vivaro LWB 2.0 2012. And I have a error code DF067 injection multiplexed emission missing, no ecu connection. And oil pressure fault on speedometer.. Did you have any idea? Thanks
thanks for the comment 😃.. that age vivaro suffer badly with the injectors & they are prone to seizing in the cylinder head.. DF067 is generic code for the fuel system that Renaults tend to throw up at don't give you a specific diagnosis..id try a leak off test on the injectors first.. for the oil pressure light id replace the pressure switch to try it first but in my experience they arnt really common so best try one to cancel out the fact of it actually having low oil pressure 😬 .. possibly the oil filter blocked but unlikely unless you haven't had it changed for excess miles
@@diydaly thanks. This happened after my friend try to Open my ecu to remap by boot and broken a ceramic capacitor and joint two legs of the ship 40076 bosch, and tried to start the van without check if he damaged something or not. After that I can't read ecu. Was on garage for one month and 2 weeks, but they can't pair it, and I paid 300 pounds without them repair it. I só 😔
ohh right that doesn't sorry very good 😬😬 sounds like you have a more serious issue
@@diydaly hi. Again. Did you have any 2012 TVP elétric diagram? I want to trace the wires myself, maybe I can found de problems
@@pontesmocho3140 hi pontes, sorry I haven’t got any wiring diagrams mate
Hi! Great video and thanks for sharing.
I have a 2016 Nissan Nv400 with a crank no start problem was wondering if you would know if the parts you listed would be suitable? I’m presuming they would but I’m not sure.
Thanks
Hi Sean thanks for the comments 👌👍.. no I’m afraid the links that I’ve listed won’t be suitable for the Nissan .. You may need to ready to fault codes in the engine ecu 1st as it may be a very different fault.. 👍
DIYDaly thanks for letting me know.
no probs 👌
@@diydaly
Hi could you help me out identifying the fuel pump relay?
Had a look at the top of the sender unit and it look as though it has already been done. Sorry to be a pain but I’m really beat🙁
@@MrSeanfd can I have your full registration number and I’ll get the fuse/relay diagram
My van is the same Renault master and I keep having this constant light on dash “INJECTION FAULT” few Mech checked and they couldn’t get any codes, what could be the issue. It’s running smoothly though at the moment.
If the injection light is on it should really have a fault code.. very odd .. I’ve not come across that before
Where are you located and how much do you charge for the change of sender unit I’m pretty certain this is what’s wrong with my movano 2.3, I’ve tried everything else, still runs and drives struggles to start when up to temp.
Would this fault trip the ecu and make reading codes impossible or did the fault code show up on yr scan tool, identifying the issue? My van (i sent u a message the other day on another vid i think) is failing to start and "braking fault" shows on dash but scan tool doesnt read any codes. So just wondering if this fuel problem trips the computer so i can tell mechanic about it! Cheers..
No it does trip anything out , this issue logs a low fuel pressure fault in the engine ecu 👍
Can't get the wiring loom from vauxhall where did you get Ur loom repair from
From Vauxhall but if you can’t get it here a link to one on eBay .. ebay.us/2QyR78
Hi guys we have a VauxhallMovano and we had the same problem we changed the loom because the old one was burnt out but we didn’t change the sender unit and Saturday it done the same thing turned over but no fuel going from the sender unit will the pump you put up work for this van and whereabouts are youDo you do work
Hi mate , thanks for the comment.. ive replied to you fb message 👍👍
Hi, do you know why the fitting of a new sender unit fixes the starting issue on the van? I’m assuming the plus you replaced only serves the fuel gauge.
Thanks
Rd
Hi matti , it’s the low pressure fuel pump & fuel gauge .. without the pump working it won’t start
@@diydaly Thanks,
It’s probably different to my Vx. Mine has the 2.0 m9r engine so no low pressure pump. Cheers
arr yeah it is different then mate 👍
Does a Kangoo 1.5 2004 have a low pressure pump? Also why not just replace the plug at the end rather than adding a plug and loom? Thanks 🙏
@@byfunkyoid2917 no it’s a different setup on the kangoo mate , the reason for replacing the section of loom is due to it wires and corrector being burnt up .. the ends of the wires are damaged and it travels down the loom abit ..
Hi I have had this problem with my 2013 plate movano. 2 years ago I replaced sender with new one from dealers, which lasted on year, then I changed the sender and the loom (from dealers about £80 for the connector and bits of wire). Now it's gone again. I don't just want to keep replacing. Surely vauxhall should do something about this as it is a common reoccurring fault. Any advice would be appreciated.
Hi yes thats very poor if its gone again! tbh ive replace quite a few of these now but never had any fail again in a short period.. once the modified room is fitted you should really get any problems.. ta
I got under van and undid the clip on the sender. The new loom looks like it's burnt out I cleaned and replaced and it worked a few times now not starting again.
@@mohammedtayyab6314 hmm the look may be damaged abit further back .. I’m afraid that’s really Gona need some looking into.. the feeds etc will need checking mate
hi mister DIY my Renault master turns over and runs for a couple of seconds could that be the sender unit
More than likely something else mate
No live feed 12 volts to the injectors, Renault traffic 2.0 , ECU is working and is sending ground signal, what may cause that there is no live feed of 12 volts on one all 4 injectors ? Thanks
There’s loads of issues that might stop the power supply to the injectors .. has this been code read?
@@diydaly the code is DTC020062 - injector control circuit , Short circuit to earth .
My mecanic which I usually work with doesn't know where is the problem , he changed ECU, call an electrician guy and that person "said" checked all the cables and fuses and couldn't find anything wrong , I ended up paying both of this guys and the van is sitting for 1 month not working because they are not able to find out the problem.
Would this issue cause air in the fuel line? I have an issue with 2001 renault master that started with cranking and no start. When vehicle stood still fuel would drop towards tank and air bubble would form ffrom fuel filter. Had fuel lines checked. Fuel temp senser changed. Fuel filters changed. Vehicle was working fine for two days and stalled again with crank and no start. Managed to get started eventually by priming the line by clicking the electrics on and off for a while before turning the engine.
Could this video be my problem?
no it wouldn't mate, yours is the earlier model, sounds like you definelty have an air leak though.. id check the injector return lines and all the pipes.. if its got one my best guess would be the primer pump.. there quite common, they split at the edges
@@diydaly - It's difficult to source at the minute. Before recent work done it was crank and no start. Mechanic could get it started with accelerant and would randomly stall on idle but very rarely. The primer pump seems fine as you can see it push fuel every time you turn the electrics on. Filter at tank was changed and all seemed well for two days until stall and crank with no start again. Once I had it started I couldn't get it to stall again and have now left it with my mechanic but he's a bit stumped.
@@simonhunt3106 😬 Air leaks can sometimes be tricky to find! strange but sometimes a split line doesn't leak but fuel still draws air in
@@diydaly - Back to same problem of crank and no start today. Guess it's an in depth check of the fuel lines for starters.
@@simonhunt3106 😬 hopefully you find it!
Hi recently bought 2013 Renault master the fuel gauge didn't move not got a clue what it could be and don't want to be ripped off by taking it to a garage could you please help
Hi mate , have you taken the connector off and had a look at the pins ?
@@diydaly is that the yellow plug thats on your RUclips video
Yeah the one on top of the fuel tank?
Ok mate will clean the ends up and see if it works thank you for your time
👍👌 no probs
I have a 15 plate Master, wouldn't start AA guy said it was the fuel pump after banging on the tank a few times. he sprayed easy start down the air pipe and then a injector fault came up on the dash
Got towed home, checked the fuel pump sender and connector, one pin on both were burnt out, Changed sender unit and connector, but still wont start and still saying injector fault on dash. And now now fuel gauge empty light is on and saying empty as well, but I know it has 1/4 of a tank in it.... So frustrating. Any ideas ????
Check all the wiring , it must be wiring related but may be corroded elsewhere
@@diydaly Will do, bloody hard work when you are working in the street 😅
hi did you get the fuel guage to work as mine is the same after changing pump and wiring thanks
Just got a quote from a garage £935 to fix this problem. Does this sound right?
If it’s genuine oe parts the pump is around the £350-400 area and the wiring loom about £60ish plus the pump seal / cap (£40ish) if I remember correctly and about 2 hours labour ish at the garages rate .. I’d expect that price at a main dealer!
Cheers mate thanks for the advice 👍🏻
@@nastyhiggi 👍👌
Would this cause a fuse to blow?
It can do
@@diydalyThanks, great videos by the way you’ve been very helpful many a time 👍
Why can't the manufacturer fit colour coded wires instead of 4 purple wires ?????????
🤣 would make the job easier
Am having starting problem for 2 weeks now still I can’t solve the problem need some advice 😭
😬 they seem to suffer with a few different issues
@@diydaly Am really confuse about the problem
@@sidibehsidibeh1247 Youlll need to get the fault codes read to start with
Hi I have a 2014 Renault master. It was parked in a garage having the brakes done it was moved on completion and parked up. Now we have no ignition lights so won’t turn over. Radio and windows work and locking. Battery charged but still no joy. Changed ignition relay still nothing. Could it be an imobilizer ?? TIA.
always a possibility but unlikely, sounds strange though.. does it have a ny fault codes logged?
@@diydaly no as we have no ignition lights on the dashboard. So we can’t plug in computer. The heater works as does radio windows central locking. We changed ignition relay no different. Could it be a fuse although we did check them might have missed something. Or immobilizer ??
@@tarsneyisleestrelas4659 check the main maxi fuses on the battery
@@diydaly. I’ll check them tomorrow as the van is in the garage. I guess there is separate fuses as most electrics are working. I’ll keep you up dated and let you know what it is when we sort it out. Wondering if it’s the immobilizer ? Certainly is strange 😂. Thanks for your help I’ll keep you informed.
@@tarsneyisleestrelas4659 👍👍. 🤞 you get it sorted!
Hi I have an issue and van won't start but all lights come on but won't even try and turn over. I hear a click but nothing
If its just clicking, its likely to be either a flat battery, bad earth or fault starter motor
@@diydaly I have 12.7v from battery.ive checked the battery terminals, disconnected and reconnected. But I've been told to check earth from gearbox to body first
yeah use a jump lead if need be simply to bypass the earth see if it makes any difference
I'm covered through my bank with RAC so looks like they will be coming out now
Thx alot. And I'll let you know the verdict
hi mate great video mine starts but wont run and glow plug light wont go out any ideas or anyone please help please please please
Hi mate , sorry to hear your having problems! Have you had the fault codes read?
@@diydaly hi mate thank you so much for taking the time to reply. i did have a so called mechanic plug one in he turned out to be a total tw"" .i'm toying with the idea of buying one myself but there very expensive. this van has been in a front end crash and there is a hole in the erg cooler but i'm sure this won't affect it. it will start and run with easy start if i keep the revs up it will stay running and when it's warm start off the key just fine.
kind regards karl.
When u say a hole in the egr cooler , do u mean on the coolant or exhaust gas side? If it’s blowing excessive it may log a fault.. yes some of them are quite expensive but there are amount of cheaper alternatives on eBay / Amazon to do a basic code read .. if you check the video description I should have some links to some 👌
@@diydaly again thank you for replying
the hole is in the stainless steel pipe on the exhaust side but i'm sure my problem is on the glow plug circuit.i've checked all the fuses i can find but don't know if there is another relay apart from the aluminium one on the front panel.
kind regards karl
Hmm I’ll do some digging , you could really do with a fault code read first 👍
Tried showing this to my mechanic who didn’t wanna know he then spent seven hours before finding this exact problem then charged me £900
Arr bloody hell thats a pain! Really common issue on them
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