My buddy got in an accident and his emissions stuff fell off his Nissan. After that his engine was awesome. 250k miles of hard oil field use. Amazing how that happened.
My neighbor bought a brand new 2003 dodge Ram 3500 2wd dually and they have a horse ranch they had no problems with anything on it and the towed with it a lot
5.7Ls were fine in the HDs, just the 545/66RFE that killed it. Luckily that pre-2014 should have 4.56 gears and not taller like the newer / non-power wagon trucks
Vehicle prices are outrageous! Who can afford to buy anything? A 14 year old truck with a 190K miles with a less than ideal engine and a check engine light could go for $18K-$20K!
Well I cant comment on the other two rigs but my 13 PW (odd year bc it has 5.7 and is last year w 4:56s, rear leafs and first year w the 6 speed trans. and the 14+ interior) and has been dead nails for 170k. It does have a host of goodies like factory cold air, bypass locker kit, all Thuren suspention parts and 2.5 kings w 37s. (and yes she will burn em) The big girl has done Sherman Jeep trail, Gold Mountain, and a host of other trails that not many full size rids want any part of. Plus w the Thuren and kings the PW is a pretty decent Pismo sand toy. YES, i do wish for an additional 200 hp but as she sits now she does not tow anything and although its not fast it is far from slow. With that being said i do have Hellcat and Coyote power envy🤣 GREAT channel guys. Thanks for the info and fun entertainment w your great shows.
6.4 powerstroke can be a great engine if taken care of properly. If abused in stock trim (egr/dpf) or hot rodded with a crazy tune it won’t last. Deleted with a basic or custom tow tune with minimal timing changes and driven like it’s supposed to be driven, it’ll last a long time. There’s plenty that’s hit 350k-450k miles on the original engine. When that engine first came out most people didn’t understand the regen process and coolant servicing then the list of issues started
I think to imply that the 5.7 Hemi is gutless and makes the truck unable to get out of its own way is selling it incredibly short. While the 5.7 5 speed combo is not optimal for that truck, it’s still putting down quite a bit more horsepower and torque than it’s competitors of that era save for the 6.8 V10 from Ford. I agree that while the 6.4 with an 8 speed is better suited for a vehicle that heavy, the 6.4 literally only makes 29 more ft.lbs of torque. The 5.7 Hemi engine is fine, it should instead be a critique of how trash the transmissions in ALL of the HDs used to be. I’ve owned all of the big three trucks at one point or another so not a Ram fanboy, just my $.02
That 5.7 and the current ones are seriously terrible. A local dept bought 3 brand new vehicles with that engine and all took at least 1 engine and one took 2 engines. I was very disappointed. This was within 10k miles. The Durango was within 5000 miles.
Hello gents, I’m thinking about buying a new 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X fully loaded next week. Your thoughts on this mid size truck please. God bless and thank you.
@@williammorgan5987 sad truth is despite not having MDS that engine in that 2010 was built to have it and it suffers the same issue with the cam and lifter failures sadly I know this all too well I had a 2011 cam and lifters failed at 114,000 km
I would want none of those trucks. I have a 2011, Job 2, F250 with the 6.7L. It has been a great engine for 138k miles. It was my daily driver for 9 years. Now it does 5th wheel towing and truck duty.
I worked at a truck outfitter place in 2008 when the fords came out with the 6.4 and the duramax lmm was just brought out and we had the go ahead from one company to race the two and the lmm absolutely destroyed the 6.4. Plus there are 1000’s of lmm’s on the road yet and almost every 6.4 has been either junked or had the engine replaced multiple times or guys kept the ford truck and put a cummins in them and made them into a great truck
The 6.4 or Maxxforce 7 was the beginning of the end for international diesels tons of lawsuits failure to comply with emissions and by 2013ish they stopped making diesels and went to guess who Cummins!
The number one worse engine on the those truck is 6.4 Powerstroke, it know had is problems. All those DPF and EGR got clogged, Piston is starting to crack by heat. Navistar got sued by Ford. They will never contract by Navistar again. So, Ford design a 6.7 Powerstroke aka Scorpion by themselves because it could be more reliable than Navistar engine. Honestly, the 7.3 and 6.0 are not that bad engines.
This is why I drive a Toyota. They may not be perfect, none are, but I have only had an engine light once on my Toyota diesel and was for injection pump solonoids that should have been replaced when I did the injectors. Maintain a Toyota, and its almost a guarantee that it will last forever.
That was excellent the Power Wagon 5.7 Hemi paired with the 4:56 gears gets up and goes pretty good. Notice there was nothing bad to say about it. Sure it doesn’t have the 6.4 but still a great truck.
@@DeepDishPizza How? DEF pump failures, Bad EGR valves and EGR coolers are all related to emissions. All related to the demise of the Cummins 5.0. Those failures result in rough idles, misfires, false regens and poor performance overall. Did I miss anything?
@DeepDishPizza you didn't explain how anything Paul said was incorrect. I drive 2016 titan xd with cummins, has 80k. Mine is deleted and tuned and it runs good Better fuel mileage then any of my other trucks I have own. I am happy with my purchase
@@DeepDishPizza I noticed you avoided his question and didn't explain why he was so incorrect. Instead you told us you drive like miss Daisy and have a reliable Honda. haha
HEMI is no joke but underpowered for heavy-duty use but definitely NOT the worst engine, its the least worst of this video and excellent for the 1500 (390/407 til 2012 now 395/410 hp/lb ft tq).
For that time the hp and torque numbers weren’t bad at all, and with a good rear axle ratio it wouldn’t be bad at all. The 5.7 Hemi is a great motor and don’t deserve to be on this list. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one.
@pro4xtrdpro376 Tundra IForce 5.7 only has 381hp. Less power and torque than the Eagle heads 5.7 Hemi. And the Nissan 5.6 is even slower than the Tundra.
@@CodySimoncelli-of7xxthat’s why they’re gutless. The 6.0 has to be neutered in order to maintain emissions and fuel economy standards. They run leaner than they should under a load and pull timing and you get absolutely terrible towing out of them. Meanwhile you uncork them they’re torque monsters
No GM has the worst diesel engine ever built hands down the 350 converted to a diesel. When the autos came with the 350 diesel and people were buying them for nothing and were outing 350 gas crate motors in them and they would double or triple their money when the sold them .
If I had to choose one of the three, I'd take the 5.7L Power Wagon as well. Last year, I was looking for a truck and wanted a Toyota Tundra but I couldn't find one within my price range. Another truck I was considering was a Ford SVT Raptor but again couldn't find one one for the right price. I ended up with a 2008 Chevy Silverado 2500hd Vortec. I could of went for the 1500 but those have active fuel management and I've heard that those engines can get oil sludge buildup and lifter failure. The Silverado 2500hd gasser I bought doesn't have active fuel management and despite the heavier weight and putting bigger tires on it, I still average 11-13mpg in it. Plus its engine, an "LS" LY6, has lots of performance potential!
Nice I also have a 2008 2500 6.0 and it’s been an amazing truck. A 1500 would have been fine, but it’s nice to have a little extra capability and a very reliable engine. Noticeable more low end torque towing then a 5.3 also
How are you only getting 11-13? I easily got 16. And if I took it easy I could get over 18. Most I ever got was 22.6. Was perty flat ground and I wasn't hauling much extra weight. Was headed south on i95 outa NC and headed towards Augusta on i20
I have the same RAM Power Wagon with the ,5.7 hemi. Has 250k miles on it with no mechanical issues whatsoever. It'll make 1million miles I'll guarantee it ! Can't afford to but the new over priced trucks selling today. Too much add on crap that takes it to a luxury car.Trucks should not need to be "fast" ! I'll also bet most every vehicle on the auction lot with have the check engine on. I watch you guys regularly but you're not really always correct with your information.
It’s sad that Navistar intentionally under engineered the 6.4 for Ford. They were being sued by Ford at the time for the problems that they were having with the 6.0 trying to get Navistar to pay for all of the warranty replacements that Ford was having on them. Navistar obviously didn’t want to pay due to the high costs, and didn’t have the budget (nor motivation) when designing the 6.4, due to the litigation costs. Hence they split ways after the 6.4 and Ford designed the 6.7 in house
That's a rather single sided version of the story. Ford rushed the 6.0 to market with the 7.3 being phased out due to emissions, and was at the design table for both engines. Neither were simply Navistar engines that Ford just chucked into their trucks.
Ford screwed up both the 6.0 and 6.4. Both of the engines were designed for what was originally intended and proven to work well with not nearly the issues they had in the Fords compared to the International versions. The VT365 and Maxxforce 7 were not known for the failures. As stated, the issues were caused by ford rushing or trying to change designs too rapidly when the product was already being pushed out. It wasn’t International’s fault, it was Ford’s.
The 6.4 also came single turbo from Navistar, ford put the twin turbos on it, also ford and Navistar where sueing each other over all the 7.3 recalls that went on, but some how everyone for got about them.
We had a 2003 ram 2500 5.7l hemi magnum. Sold it with almost 250k miles. I miss that truck, I wouldn’t have hesitated to run it accross the country and back. Still had the original never rebuilt transmission also that had no issues, and was used to haul a 5th wheel camper before we got it then we hauled a gooseneck Horne trailer with furnished living quarters all over the state. Truck never left me stranded, and would still light the tires up when we sold it.
PW would be my choice! HP is for speed and this is an off-road beast that doesn't need to go fast. Besides that, an engine swap or some upgrades could easily turn the PW into a formidable truck. IMHO
I love that your guy's are doing videos on used trucks that the common working person can somewhat afford! Thank you its crazy how much new trucks are now and days!
As far as the power wagons go, prices are all over the place. I have seen 2010s for 15k with like 100k on them and 2020s with close to 150k for 58k and literally everything in-between. And the 6.4 didn't come out until 2014 model years. A lot of guys love their 5.7 power wagons. I really like my 2017 so I'm pretty much sold on the 6.4 hemi.
I really like my 5.7 but only because it's paired with the ZF8. Was the main reason I went with Ram, and now I am really interested in the new i6 engine. Yeah the V8 rumble will be gone but that's what my 1928 T bucket is for 🎉
This being a 2010 means its got the Gen III .5 Eagle motor. S7 E3 Dave and the Steves on Engine Masters made 498.5 HP with just a cam swap. And I've seen even more gains using the exact same cam specs, with upgraded springs and valve relieved pistons. As for the I6, yes they lost to cylinders, but in the best way. The I6 is a zero compromises engine. They sound great, have lots of power, and forgo every single engineering compensation because NONE are needed.
I think they are testing it where I live. I’ve seen a test mule hauling a trailer with metal weights bolted down, and it didn’t have a Cummins. It was a crew with dual rears, and a flatbed.
@@waterloo123100Maybe in HD trucks, but the ones in the 80's and early 00's Rangers and Explorers were garbage LOL. The old C6 3 speed auto in my 88 F250 is still going strong...the 460 needs overhauled though thanks to my uncle not maintaining it.
Biggest issue with the 5.7 is shitty oil pump and the mds shut down. Shit will eat up your cams and send metal shavings through all the oil galleries. If it gets to that motor is done and from the forums I see roughly after 150k
I know people with the 5.7 hemi in the three quarter tons That have a million miles on them. That thing sounded like the low gas. Stop trying to make dodges look bad
I have to say, "Bullet Proofing" a 6.0 PS is kind of a joke. Because you're not talking a simple fix like the KDP, you're talking a complete engine rebuild to do the bullet proofing, and even then they really can't do much on power adders. The However, the proper repair for a 6.4 PS is to replace it with a contemporary Cummins.
Titan XD gets a bad wrap, most owners never had a diesel truck and neglect proper maintenance. My 2016 has been exceptional to us. Small issues here and there but has always been reliable even as my main tow rig hauling horses in a 3 horse steel trailer weighing around 12,000 lbs loaded and tows way better than my 2018 F250. Paid under 40k and got way more truck for my money. 2016 Pro4X with 126,000 miles.
same here, my titan xd cummins has been to the arctic and back and she still runs like a champ today with 165,000 kms on it. everyone always asks me about it. really is a unicorn
Skipping routine maintenance is the problem with all 3 of those trucks....people buy these types of vehicles to show off to their friends and family about how much money they thought they had, but don't have any brains...and the first thing they do is skip the regular oil/filter changes because they think it costs too much and well, you end up with the trucks at the auction that aren't running worth a damn as a result.
So sad with the Nissan Cummins. I remember the anticipation of that engine, they kept delaying the release and then it was just never that good. So much potential lost.
@@omardevonlittle3817 except for the fact that 2009-current 5.7 hemis do suffer from oil starvation when idled for long periods of time, which leads to the lifter failure. Hence the reason for the upgraded oil pump.
People always overlook the Ford 3v v10s from 2005-10. They are extremely reliable, powerful, tow excellent, and cheap and simple to maintain. Mpg not horrible either, for what it is.
My 09 Eagle heads 5.7 Ram had 250k miles and never gave me any issues before i sold it. I deleted MDS and tuned it and it was a solid work horse. My 05 Ram pre eagle 5.7 is now at 200k miles and still runs like new.
Most don’t buy a power wagon to tow with they buy it because it’s a power wagon, some simple mods and that truck will make good power, both of those diesel’s are money pits and headaches
My buddy got in an accident and his emissions stuff fell off his Nissan. After that his engine was awesome. 250k miles of hard oil field use. Amazing how that happened.
Not the first time that I have read about that happening during an accident. You'd think they would look into that but we all know they hate recalls.
Emissions stuff fell off. 😂
They all need to experience that fender bender! 😂
My emissions is still intact and I haven’t had any issues.
@@Hollywoodeatsordrinksit cherish that truck. You got yourself a unicorn. Glad you don’t have any issues
We had that 5.7 in our heavy duty, work truck in construction. That thing was always shop for engine and transmission issues
My neighbor bought a brand new 2003 dodge Ram 3500 2wd dually and they have a horse ranch they had no problems with anything on it and the towed with it a lot
5.7Ls were fine in the HDs, just the 545/66RFE that killed it. Luckily that pre-2014 should have 4.56 gears and not taller like the newer / non-power wagon trucks
I bet dollars to doughnuts the Turbo actuator has went out on the titan, which is now warranted by nissan for 10yrs 150k miles
Vehicle prices are outrageous! Who can afford to buy anything? A 14 year old truck with a 190K miles with a less than ideal engine and a check engine light could go for $18K-$20K!
The front hitch is used for both maneuvering trailers around and also as an attachment point for accessories like a winch.
Id take the Nissan,dump the emissions equipment on it, end up with a solid driving comfortable quality truck.
I dont think he hated the Hemi as much as he thought he would
Well I cant comment on the other two rigs but my 13 PW (odd year bc it has 5.7 and is last year w 4:56s, rear leafs and first year w the 6 speed trans. and the 14+ interior) and has been dead nails for 170k. It does have a host of goodies like factory cold air, bypass locker kit, all Thuren suspention parts and 2.5 kings w 37s. (and yes she will burn em) The big girl has done Sherman Jeep trail, Gold Mountain, and a host of other trails that not many full size rids want any part of. Plus w the Thuren and kings the PW is a pretty decent Pismo sand toy. YES, i do wish for an additional 200 hp but as she sits now she does not tow anything and although its not fast it is far from slow.
With that being said i do have Hellcat and Coyote power envy🤣
GREAT channel guys.
Thanks for the info and fun entertainment w your great shows.
EPA emissions are what made both the Ford 6.4 and Cummins 5.0 so bad. If you remove all of the emissions junk, they're pretty decent.
I would like to have that power wagon
6.4 powerstroke can be a great engine if taken care of properly. If abused in stock trim (egr/dpf) or hot rodded with a crazy tune it won’t last. Deleted with a basic or custom tow tune with minimal timing changes and driven like it’s supposed to be driven, it’ll last a long time. There’s plenty that’s hit 350k-450k miles on the original engine. When that engine first came out most people didn’t understand the regen process and coolant servicing then the list of issues started
How many of the ones(pstrokes 6.4) that you have worked on had a dead #8? That seems to be the death of most even low mileage,
@@renebarrera5286 1 out of maybe 20 or 30. I see more bearing and crank issues with 6.7’s than anything nowadays
NO MDS ON 2500 5.7. its bullet proof...with an intake, trottle body an freeflowing exhaust maybe headers you really jack the HP and Torques.
Lazy production....Poor research.....No mds on 2500 5.7...so no hemi tick...a very stout engine.....do your research
100% would get that power wagon if i had to choose. The other two trucks i would buy with gas engine's only also.
I’d run away in terror from the 6.4 PowerStroke i don’t care how low mileage it is, I’d honestly take an NA IDI over that even though they are dogs
I've always liked the Power Wagon. If I wanted/needed a big, burly pickup, I'd probably try to get a first gen Power Wagon.
Yeah, lotta love for old dino juicers. Hope your kids like warm, wet weather at Xmas....
I think to imply that the 5.7 Hemi is gutless and makes the truck unable to get out of its own way is selling it incredibly short. While the 5.7 5 speed combo is not optimal for that truck, it’s still putting down quite a bit more horsepower and torque than it’s competitors of that era save for the 6.8 V10 from Ford. I agree that while the 6.4 with an 8 speed is better suited for a vehicle that heavy, the 6.4 literally only makes 29 more ft.lbs of torque. The 5.7 Hemi engine is fine, it should instead be a critique of how trash the transmissions in ALL of the HDs used to be. I’ve owned all of the big three trucks at one point or another so not a Ram fanboy, just my $.02
That 5.7 and the current ones are seriously terrible. A local dept bought 3 brand new vehicles with that engine and all took at least 1 engine and one took 2 engines. I was very disappointed. This was within 10k miles. The Durango was within 5000 miles.
I'd send the 6.4 off to Choate for a full remachineing. And a delete and tune.
Halfway through the video and pretty sure the power wagon is clicking which is a leak in the exhaust manifold. Causing the check engine light to be on
Had the 6.4 built and tuned it was an awesome beast never any engine problems either
Rigid fog lamps are “cheese-oid”? Ever priced a set of Rigid fog lamps?
Hello gents, I’m thinking about buying a new 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X fully loaded next week. Your thoughts on this mid size truck please. God bless and thank you.
I had two duallys with the 5.7. 2004 and 2008. I thought they were good trucks. Very reliable and low cost to run. Not fuel wise but everything else.
Not to mention all the HD 5.7s were non MDS. They did well in the contracting world
@@williammorgan5987 sad truth is despite not having MDS that engine in that 2010 was built to have it and it suffers the same issue with the cam and lifter failures sadly I know this all too well I had a 2011 cam and lifters failed at 114,000 km
@@440x 2011 with 400k on it. CHange your oil stop idling your truck issues been beat to death for years
Oi, Andre kills me with ending every other sentence with, "right? " 🙄
Ram was dinging because it needs a new cam and lifters
I would want none of those trucks. I have a 2011, Job 2, F250 with the 6.7L. It has been a great engine for 138k miles. It was my daily driver for 9 years. Now it does 5th wheel towing and truck duty.
It must be a requirement that any vehicle at auction has a check engine lift on.
I would absolutely love to own that power wagon. Amazing truck
"Titan XD diesel" and "good payload" should never be in the same sentence...
I would get the Power Wagon and throw in a junkyard 6.4 or if I can luck out and get a Junkyard 6.2 Hellcat.
5.0 Cummins is made in china right?
Any chance a Ford V10 will be put to the test sometime?
When Ram started putting the 5.7 Hemi into their pickup trucks back in 2003, it was the only gas V8 option for Power Wagon/Heavy Duty until 2014.
I wouldn’t buy any of them.
I worked at a truck outfitter place in 2008 when the fords came out with the 6.4 and the duramax lmm was just brought out and we had the go ahead from one company to race the two and the lmm absolutely destroyed the 6.4. Plus there are 1000’s of lmm’s on the road yet and almost every 6.4 has been either junked or had the engine replaced multiple times or guys kept the ford truck and put a cummins in them and made them into a great truck
There’s tons of 6.4’s around. Just depends on what part of the country you’re in.
My Nissan Mechanic friend said that 5.0L Cummins is 💩 he’s seen bricked engines 10,000 miles and they have to put in a new engine
Interesting... I've got the same Ford Super Duty chrome grill hanging on my wall...fits 2008-10 model
That poor Cummins in the Nissan was doomed from the start and never really mated to a chassis it was meant for. Kind of a shame.
I would buy the ford and definitely swap a a better diesel engine into it
The 6.4 or Maxxforce 7 was the beginning of the end for international diesels tons of lawsuits failure to comply with emissions and by 2013ish they stopped making diesels and went to guess who Cummins!
Wrong. International still makes diesels to this day but for class 7 and 8 trucks
The number one worse engine on the those truck is 6.4 Powerstroke, it know had is problems. All those DPF and EGR got clogged, Piston is starting to crack by heat. Navistar got sued by Ford. They will never contract by Navistar again. So, Ford design a 6.7 Powerstroke aka Scorpion by themselves because it could be more reliable than Navistar engine. Honestly, the 7.3 and 6.0 are not that bad engines.
add a little boost to the ram and your ready to go
@tfl where is the OBS Ford ? Seems to have up and disappeared miraculously
Easy Buy a known Reliable truck Toyota Tundra
Careful with valve spring failure. Pretty expensive repair.
This is why I drive a Toyota. They may not be perfect, none are, but I have only had an engine light once on my Toyota diesel and was for injection pump solonoids that should have been replaced when I did the injectors. Maintain a Toyota, and its almost a guarantee that it will last forever.
It looks like this is set up to tow behind a motorhome..snow plows don't need electrical plugs do they?
Nissan
That was excellent the Power Wagon 5.7 Hemi paired with the 4:56 gears gets up and goes pretty good. Notice there was nothing bad to say about it. Sure it doesn’t have the 6.4 but still a great truck.
The 2008-2010 Ford super duty with the 6.8 triton V10 is a very good truck. Very reliable.
I love my 13 5.7 power wagon. You also forget to mention that the 5.7 power wagon has 4.56 gears while the 6.4 only gets 4.10 gears.
Emissions is what made the 5.0 unreliable and inefficient. It had potential. Those who deleted and tuned found that potential and reliability.
Nah they are hot garbage.
@@DeepDishPizza How? DEF pump failures, Bad EGR valves and EGR coolers are all related to emissions. All related to the demise of the Cummins 5.0. Those failures result in rough idles, misfires, false regens and poor performance overall. Did I miss anything?
@DeepDishPizza you didn't explain how anything Paul said was incorrect. I drive 2016 titan xd with cummins, has 80k. Mine is deleted and tuned and it runs good
Better fuel mileage then any of my other trucks I have own. I am happy with my purchase
@@DeepDishPizza I noticed you avoided his question and didn't explain why he was so incorrect. Instead you told us you drive like miss Daisy and have a reliable Honda. haha
@@DeepDishPizza😂
HEMI is no joke but underpowered for heavy-duty use but definitely NOT the worst engine, its the least worst of this video and excellent for the 1500 (390/407 til 2012 now 395/410 hp/lb ft tq).
Agreed. Greatest half ton, non boosted V8 available. Just not big enough for an HD.
For that time the hp and torque numbers weren’t bad at all, and with a good rear axle ratio it wouldn’t be bad at all. The 5.7 Hemi is a great motor and don’t deserve to be on this list. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one.
ford 6.2, Non AFM vortec, coyote, just to name a few that are MUCH better@@robertannable9584
As someone who has a 2005 powerwagon I agree. Being underpowered is easily my biggest grip. But in the 3 years of ownership it's been super reliable
@pro4xtrdpro376 Tundra IForce 5.7 only has 381hp. Less power and torque than the Eagle heads 5.7 Hemi. And the Nissan 5.6 is even slower than the Tundra.
I had a 5.7 hemi in my 2500 work truck, it was way better than the 6.0 in my older Silverado. Was pleasantly surprised when towing.
Are you being fr? Thats crazy I figured it wouldn't be aswell I think it has less torque than the 6.0
He’s not wrong. I have a 2017 2500 6.0. It was so gutless and frustrating with any load. Luckily, I had a tune put on and it runs way better.
@@CodySimoncelli-of7xxthat’s why they’re gutless. The 6.0 has to be neutered in order to maintain emissions and fuel economy standards. They run leaner than they should under a load and pull timing and you get absolutely terrible towing out of them. Meanwhile you uncork them they’re torque monsters
No GM has the worst diesel engine ever built hands down the 350 converted to a diesel. When the autos came with the 350 diesel and people were buying them for nothing and were outing 350 gas crate motors in them and they would double or triple their money when the sold them .
@@brentmcmahon8188the most reliable diesel GM made was the LBZ duramax
6.4 powerstroke is the world's worst
That’s your opinion. 367k miles on mine and still going strong!
Powerjoke
Idk I almost think the 6.0 was the worst. Thats why I like the 5.9 ;)
@@dakotaracebrown6.0 could be fixed. No fix for the blocks cracking on that 6.4
@@DeepDishPizzayou’re lucky.. those motors typically fail big time blocks splitting etc
I have the Titan gasser and its an awesome truck!
For worst engine in a great truck... the hemi wagon doesnt deserve to be on the list. So many other trucks that could be on that list
The new Gen Dodge trucks with their 6 cylinder turbos will soon join this video
5.7 hemi is a great engine. The 6.4 powerstroke, 6.0 powerstroke, 5.4 triton are the worst engines
If I had to choose one of the three, I'd take the 5.7L Power Wagon as well. Last year, I was looking for a truck and wanted a Toyota Tundra but I couldn't find one within my price range. Another truck I was considering was a Ford SVT Raptor but again couldn't find one one for the right price.
I ended up with a 2008 Chevy Silverado 2500hd Vortec. I could of went for the 1500 but those have active fuel management and I've heard that those engines can get oil sludge buildup and lifter failure. The Silverado 2500hd gasser I bought doesn't have active fuel management and despite the heavier weight and putting bigger tires on it, I still average 11-13mpg in it. Plus its engine, an "LS" LY6, has lots of performance potential!
Nice I also have a 2008 2500 6.0 and it’s been an amazing truck. A 1500 would have been fine, but it’s nice to have a little extra capability and a very reliable engine. Noticeable more low end torque towing then a 5.3 also
How are you only getting 11-13? I easily got 16. And if I took it easy I could get over 18.
Most I ever got was 22.6. Was perty flat ground and I wasn't hauling much extra weight. Was headed south on i95 outa NC and headed towards Augusta on i20
@@sedric6153 The reason why I get less mpg than you is because I live in a high desert area that's over 4000ft above sea level.
I have the same RAM Power Wagon with the ,5.7 hemi. Has 250k miles on it with no mechanical issues whatsoever. It'll make 1million miles I'll guarantee it ! Can't afford to but the new over priced trucks selling today. Too much add on crap that takes it to a luxury car.Trucks should not need to be "fast" ! I'll also bet most every vehicle on the auction lot with have the check engine on. I watch you guys regularly but you're not really always correct with your information.
Count your self as lucky. I had a 13 Powerwagon. Biggest POS I’ve ever owned.
@@slimtnyit’s the best truck I’ve ever had as well. Only the 5.7 but definitely enough power for me. 240,000 miles not one issue.
It’s sad that Navistar intentionally under engineered the 6.4 for Ford. They were being sued by Ford at the time for the problems that they were having with the 6.0 trying to get Navistar to pay for all of the warranty replacements that Ford was having on them. Navistar obviously didn’t want to pay due to the high costs, and didn’t have the budget (nor motivation) when designing the 6.4, due to the litigation costs. Hence they split ways after the 6.4 and Ford designed the 6.7 in house
That's a rather single sided version of the story. Ford rushed the 6.0 to market with the 7.3 being phased out due to emissions, and was at the design table for both engines. Neither were simply Navistar engines that Ford just chucked into their trucks.
Ford also dictated the turbo supplier and that was the biggest problem with the engine.
The 6.7 ford is a pos....nice fairy tale about navistar...
Ford screwed up both the 6.0 and 6.4. Both of the engines were designed for what was originally intended and proven to work well with not nearly the issues they had in the Fords compared to the International versions. The VT365 and Maxxforce 7 were not known for the failures. As stated, the issues were caused by ford rushing or trying to change designs too rapidly when the product was already being pushed out. It wasn’t International’s fault, it was Ford’s.
The 6.4 also came single turbo from Navistar, ford put the twin turbos on it, also ford and Navistar where sueing each other over all the 7.3 recalls that went on, but some how everyone for got about them.
Powerwagon would be my pick, by a mile.
We had a 2003 ram 2500 5.7l hemi magnum. Sold it with almost 250k miles. I miss that truck, I wouldn’t have hesitated to run it accross the country and back. Still had the original never rebuilt transmission also that had no issues, and was used to haul a 5th wheel camper before we got it then we hauled a gooseneck Horne trailer with furnished living quarters all over the state. Truck never left me stranded, and would still light the tires up when we sold it.
PW would be my choice! HP is for speed and this is an off-road beast that doesn't need to go fast. Besides that, an engine swap or some upgrades could easily turn the PW into a formidable truck. IMHO
I love that your guy's are doing videos on used trucks that the common working person can somewhat afford! Thank you its crazy how much new trucks are now and days!
That Powerwagon could be made into a monster quite easily...
Out of those three I would definitely take the Power Wagon.
Unfortunately, these diesels took the hit as test emissions dummies for these manufacturers
Damn government more worried about our small engines rather than china and India
As far as the power wagons go, prices are all over the place. I have seen 2010s for 15k with like 100k on them and 2020s with close to 150k for 58k and literally everything in-between. And the 6.4 didn't come out until 2014 model years. A lot of guys love their 5.7 power wagons. I really like my 2017 so I'm pretty much sold on the 6.4 hemi.
My brother has a 2WD RAM 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi. It's been great. No engine issue, and plenty of power. Not a huge, heavy PW though.
Sunroof popped when he closed the door on that Ford 😄
I really like my 5.7 but only because it's paired with the ZF8. Was the main reason I went with Ram, and now I am really interested in the new i6 engine. Yeah the V8 rumble will be gone but that's what my 1928 T bucket is for 🎉
This being a 2010 means its got the Gen III .5 Eagle motor. S7 E3 Dave and the Steves on Engine Masters made 498.5 HP with just a cam swap. And I've seen even more gains using the exact same cam specs, with upgraded springs and valve relieved pistons. As for the I6, yes they lost to cylinders, but in the best way. The I6 is a zero compromises engine. They sound great, have lots of power, and forgo every single engineering compensation because NONE are needed.
1st ram 7 yes ago after decades of GMs. Now a Ram fan!
I think they are testing it where I live. I’ve seen a test mule hauling a trailer with metal weights bolted down, and it didn’t have a Cummins. It was a crew with dual rears, and a flatbed.
There's an easy way to bulletproof that F250, you just have to Cummins convert it, the transmission is actually really good in those trucks.
Ford has always made the best transmissions.
@@waterloo123100Maybe in HD trucks, but the ones in the 80's and early 00's Rangers and Explorers were garbage LOL. The old C6 3 speed auto in my 88 F250 is still going strong...the 460 needs overhauled though thanks to my uncle not maintaining it.
Biggest issue with the 5.7 is shitty oil pump and the mds shut down. Shit will eat up your cams and send metal shavings through all the oil galleries. If it gets to that motor is done and from the forums I see roughly after 150k
Power Wagon 5.7L doesn’t have MDS. MDS was only in the 1/2 ton application.
oh well thats one bonus for sure then@@scorpio13617
I know people with the 5.7 hemi in the three quarter tons That have a million miles on them. That thing sounded like the low gas. Stop trying to make dodges look bad
I have to say, "Bullet Proofing" a 6.0 PS is kind of a joke. Because you're not talking a simple fix like the KDP, you're talking a complete engine rebuild to do the bullet proofing, and even then they really can't do much on power adders. The However, the proper repair for a 6.4 PS is to replace it with a contemporary Cummins.
This is dumb. The six four is a very good truck until emissions killed it. Same with the five liter cummins
dodge: butt ugly
ford: its a ford
I think the Nissan wins this one
I’m a Ford guy and I still wouldn’t touch a 6.4 powerstroke
Titan XD gets a bad wrap, most owners never had a diesel truck and neglect proper maintenance. My 2016 has been exceptional to us. Small issues here and there but has always been reliable even as my main tow rig hauling horses in a 3 horse steel trailer weighing around 12,000 lbs loaded and tows way better than my 2018 F250. Paid under 40k and got way more truck for my money. 2016 Pro4X with 126,000 miles.
same here, my titan xd cummins has been to the arctic and back and she still runs like a champ today with 165,000 kms on it. everyone always asks me about it. really is a unicorn
Skipping routine maintenance is the problem with all 3 of those trucks....people buy these types of vehicles to show off to their friends and family about how much money they thought they had, but don't have any brains...and the first thing they do is skip the regular oil/filter changes because they think it costs too much and well, you end up with the trucks at the auction that aren't running worth a damn as a result.
So sad with the Nissan Cummins. I remember the anticipation of that engine, they kept delaying the release and then it was just never that good. So much potential lost.
How come you don't bring a scan tool and scan them for stored trouble codes??
These vehicles are about to go up on the auction block. There could be some issues regarding the sellers, and some buyers, if we show codes.
To say the 6.4 powerstroke has a negative reputation is an understatement 😂 but man they put out good power for their time
Why dont ye bring a scan tool with? 🤔
The Hemi is good just delete MDS and throw in a hellcat oil pump. That thing will last forever.
Incorrect!
@@DeepDishPizzalol dude, you walk around in this comment section telling people their wrong without any info as to why. Your comments are a waste
@@mattweeks2272well he's kinda right. You don't need to do anything to your Hemi to get 300k miles unless you get a lemon
@@omardevonlittle3817 except for the fact that 2009-current 5.7 hemis do suffer from oil starvation when idled for long periods of time, which leads to the lifter failure. Hence the reason for the upgraded oil pump.
@@mattweeks2272 Got a reaction out of you didn’t I? Exactly!
I hate dodges with a passion, but in this Turd trio I'd have to go with the Ram with the lockers and Hemi
Any of these trucks would sell quick.. 20-30k$.. is like a dream compared to 100k plus today
COMPLETELY wrong about the 5.7 Hemi, no mds on HDs and the 5 speed was better than the later 6 speed
The check engine light in the Superduty is to let you know the engine is still there. If it’s out, you have a real problem.
People always overlook the Ford 3v v10s from 2005-10. They are extremely reliable, powerful, tow excellent, and cheap and simple to maintain. Mpg not horrible either, for what it is.
Don’t they spit out spark plugs?
@@agy234nope, not after 02-03
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5:54 WTF😂😂😂😂😂😂 truck prices are a joke. We all are gonna only be able to afford a maverick new 😂
My 09 Eagle heads 5.7 Ram had 250k miles and never gave me any issues before i sold it. I deleted MDS and tuned it and it was a solid work horse.
My 05 Ram pre eagle 5.7 is now at 200k miles and still runs like new.
i love these videos, they’re so informative on what vehicles to avoid like the plague💀🤣
Good God, the 3v V10 DID NOT THROW SPARK PLUGS!
Most don’t buy a power wagon to tow with they buy it because it’s a power wagon, some simple mods and that truck will make good power, both of those diesel’s are money pits and headaches