"First Internet Artist" - M.I.A: From Refugee to Rebel, Paper Planes, & Beefing With Oprah | Ep. 443
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2024
- Patrick Bet-David interviews M.I.A., diving into her fearless rebellion in the music industry, her clashes with powerhouses like Jay-Z, and her unapologetic activism. M.I.A. exposes the dark side of fame while revealing her unyielding commitment to authenticity. This riveting conversation uncovers the raw truth behind her journey and the industry’s attempts to control her narrative.
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I met her a while ago in New York and she was very very sweet. I was her waitress and she came back to tip me extra. She had a light in her eyes that I will never forget. I’ve met a lot of celebrities and she was one of the kindest. God bless her!
Love this! Such a great story!
😊🎉
9🎉😮🎉🎉😢😅😅😢😢so 😢
Who was the worst? ☕️
JLo
I am half Tamil myself. I have to say, she is typically Tamilian from top to bottom. There is something about this ancient culture, if you carry it in you, you cannot escape. And you do not want to either. In Tamil culture money still is not a number one priority to this day. I know this is hard to believe from a Western perspective, but it is true. What always comes first is spirituality and integrity.
And this feeling that you have to stand true to your values, that there is a certain emergency, yes, that is our culture. We shall not be corrupted. M.I.A. you make me proud to be Tamil. Prouder than I already am. Much love.
how could money matter compared to what does. unfathomable.
She is revolutionary wow she didn’t need them! That’s great that statement it’s kind of like how Trump won its cuz he didn’t need the elite so your not bound to their rules when u don’t need them !
Tamil culture
Nuh she forgot it for Abrahamic
She seems so based in reality. its also SO nice to see a woman with. her natural face. She's not overdone, over made or false. Just beautiful
Crazy she’s 3 years OLDER than him. Aura feels younger
@@calmsine7767wow I would have never guessed that
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An authentic woman, a fearless human, and a lady who was ahead of her time. Remember when 'Paper Planes' came out? It was refreshingly original and groundbreaking.
Her most recent stuff now in her late 40s is her most creative and best work. Not into this music genre, and can see her 2022 LP, MATA, produced by Rick Rubin and released on various platforms, including RUclips, is some of the most creative work in that music space in a long time. She has since released her own app that's out in a world of its own creatively. In a completely different genre from Greendale by Neil Young, but like some of Nirvana's work and this album by Young it draws you into another dimension. Not songs; but worlds.
@@savedfaveswhat's the name of the app?
@@savedfavesNice, thanks.
She has been my celebrity crush for so long. She has called stuff out for so long and had so much style doing it. So happy she is able to get a platform to talk in long form here!
her X account is worth a folla
Same
I can’t believe I’m only seeing this now! MIA is such a beautiful soul! So intelligent, wise & empathetic. We need more people like herself… people who’re awake, people who aren’t afraid to speak up against those in power, people who’re determined to spread knowledge to others & raise the collective consciousness. Protect her at all costs! 💖
I'm from the UK, I absolutely love this lady,.her music and her authentic nature. she just oozes sincerity, kindness and passion. I'd support her no matter what industry she was on ot works she released. she's just amazing
Now this is the type of content that I love. Culture, and politics. Not just political commentary all day. Great show!
I like how she says God isolates you to give you a plan.
Amen Mara
@@Itsyaboy88 🙏🏽💞🌞
I'm currently in isolation mode right now in Sydney Australia. I just have to be patient and things will start panning out for me I know it
@@CamElRodriguezSnrJnrIII ✅️✅️✅️
How does that work
The fact that she's 5 years older than the host 🤯
That's crazy I had to look up she's 49!!!
Whaaaat??? She's like a young girl/young woman and he's like an old man 😂 good looking man but still I would think he's soooo much older! Sorry 😂❤
She's still got it 🔥
The power of Asian😊😅
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she is just a fantastic human being. i’m not sure exactly why she agreed to be on this show, but i’m very glad we got a chance to hear her in long form and to witness her vulnerability and internal struggle. there is a hard spiritual climb between being a victim of narcissism and power structures and taking your power back, not to beat them or to ‘win’ but to return to your spirit’s purpose and to LOVE. it is to also realize they never actually ‘win’ because of who they’ve allowed themselves to be. nothing false can end well.
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”
Facts
She’s not only wise and beautiful, but she’s also extremely well educated, wether it’s from living life or schooling…she’s very intelligent and has a kind thoughtful heart as well
i wish she could speak without the fear of something happening w her son
🎯🎯🎯🔔🔔🔔
regardless there is way more to the jayz bronfman story that i hope we find out one day
mia is a legend in my eyes was always a big inspiration
her son grandpa is richer than anybody you know
Yea I got that too. Must b some very powerful ppl
Jay z is the devil. So is her ex husband, and his father. He was so off brand for her.
Here music is honestly years before her time. Her old music sounds like bangers today. Love her.
Yeap she has several timeless songs. Her music be on in the mall and sometimes you don't even realize it's her.
she knows so much stuff that we outsiders will never know. in this podcast we had glimpses of what we need to know. She cant risk her life for a podcast… this is one of the keys video to hollywood
Well, she sure doesn't seem to care when it comes to her IG lives. She has no filter when she's on social media talking about the ills of the music industry. So what's the difference?
what an eye opening interview. i recall hearing the “paper planes” song as a kid but i had no idea who she was or anything about all of this. it’s so tragic and she is so beautiful and genuine. the hardest part about listening to this interview is the reality that history is once again repeating itself. thank u for such an incredible interview and i pray her and her son are protected and blessed & more people are open to listening to stories like this and perhaps we could have a chance to shift before it’s too late.
Thank you for getting her voice out there at this time. Prayers go out to her.❤
She can’t say everything plainly. She has to be smart especially with power. She dropped a lot of hints for ppl to do their research and wake something up inside. She didn’t fed into the industry past drama that would be all over the Internet and then the establishment would use it against her (again) to stop her future endeavors. Always a fan of Mia. Her fans are the true intuitives
Oh man! She really try not to say much but her long pauses and body language was saying more than meets the eye. Sending so much love to such brave woman. Hopefully, we can hear her full story one day🩵
Right. I'm sure it has to do with her son's family. She wants to maintain that relationship because they have the power.
she is everything one should aspire to be: global wisdom, love and respect... may she know how protected she has always been.
i love that.. global wisdom.
I remember falling in love with M.I.A. and her music first seeing her video for “Bucky Done Gun” from her debut album 💿 Arular in 2005. She is such a brilliant artist.✨✨
Love it, brilliant album
Jay Z had the balls to tell her she needs plastic surgery....look in the mirror 😂
Oh my…that’s the first time I heard that. His karma will come back to him on his children in particular his daughters.
Wow,she didn't & still don't though. This is an attractive & natural woman back in the day & now. 🌸
Nas said son look like "Joe Camel." Lol
She is crying because she know we who understand how powerful she WAS and Still is can see she has been comprised....it's so obvious keep it real the Brofmans were gangsters and still are and she is a hostage.....didnt quite know what she signed up for ........Get back to fighting M.I.A and get off the depression medication
1 plus 1 is still 2. As soon as I saw they owned Seagrams in the 1920s I knew. Generational gangsters
What evidence are basing she’s on depressing medication ? Or is that just conjecture on your part ?
This young lady is genuine and honest, I am amazed with her. First time I have seen anyone with historical insight and in tuned with nature and technology also spiritual things. Wish I could meet her, I really don't like people but I have high respect for her, M.I.A..
This young lady is 50 years old and still looking like she’s under 30 🤯
If you love M.I.A please check out her album MATA. It’s her latest & it’s a solid listen on a nice summer day.
Her answer about her kids father was ......he must have made her life extremely difficult because she didn't wanna answer the truth on how she feels.
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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
its wild lady gaga was at her concert on the same label even before gaga got famous. mia was miles ahead
Gaga copied M.i.a ,, gwen Stefani, ,Bjork , Christina Aguilera, Michael Jackson & madonna
@@Honeycomblife and her friend who mysteriously died. Lady gaga copied her
@@Honeycomblife Róisín Murphy too
@@Honeycomblife And her friend that died off of a rooftop.
Lady Gaga copied several artists far more noticeable than M.I.A. I don’t see the similarities
Might not agree w everything she says but always love someone who fights for what they believe in and isn’t afraid to lose the fame or support of others because of it. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for her.
MIA is one of the best performers I've ever witnessed. I'm 47 years old and I've been to hundreds of concerts. I saw MIA in Austin Texas and was able to get up on stage and dance with her and the crew. I'll never forget that day!. I'm So grateful she found Christ! God is good! 🙏🏻
Stop with the bs.
jesus you need to go see real artists
@@mikestar7326 My first concert was Jethro Tull. I have seen Rush, Metallica, Alice in chains and Beastie boys several times. I went to Lollapalooza and 92, 93, 94 and 95 though also seen hundreds of electronic shows. You have no idea who I am or what you're talking about. Maybe you should think before he make a statement you know nothing about. I follow talent over topic. I don't know of anyone that has seen the diverse talent I have witnessed in my lifetime. God bless you. 🙏🏻
@@mikestar7326 Name some better artists then? Her music is epic and she's good at putting on a show. I don't even agree with her opinions
@@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm Diverse talents hmm..then you must be rather following k-pop soy boy stuff instead !!! 😂
the Sri Lankan and a Tamil linguistic lesson is FIRE !
I like how she is trying to speak the truth while keeping people's positive aspects to come out her mouth. Quite refreshing. She does pause to speak which is something I am trying to do.
This woman is one of the most forward thinking intelligent people in modern music and has always stood up against political corruption and I am pleased she found god and wish her the best for her life in the future !!!!
$16 million and now EVERYONE "flips the bird". She was ahead of her time and they made her a martyr. But still, she continues on. What a brave, honest soul. 🙏🏾
She did a whole word salad she obviously has been threatened 😗
Because she can't speak candidly on anything, it makes this interview frustrating. She's dancing around certain things. I get it, but why do the interview if you can't speak.
Agree the only thing she talks about is Tamil and it’s history
I dl feel for her, Her Babby daddy is from an elite family she knows how much they can destroy her and her sons life if she says the wrong thing so I understand why she deflected on the subject. moral of the story is becareful who you sleep with as some families have the power to silence even the strongest warriors amoung us
Then why bring it up at all? What’s the point either tell it or don’t
@@Biggums_Tyrone so true
What are you talking about? For those of us who skipped this low IQ conversation.
@@Biggums_Tyronemuch easier said than done when trying to be vulnerable and give insight to us people on to what’s going on.
I can’t believe she is 49 years old
She’s literally 4 years older than PBD
Ikr! She looks half her age
Some deageing cosmetic surgeries might've done the trick !!!
Not her, she's all natural@@sameersheriff7078
Or it's called a good indian skin@@sameersheriff7078
Gods love her she's a mother that loves her son and is protecting him at any cost that says a lot about her 💞
Thank for for having her on!
I didn’t know who she was at the beginning but yeah, I am on board with her.
She’s A Real One
Paper Planes. Classic song
she’s a real artist amongst clowns.
@@Bob-rh4zbfacts , she needs to make more music independently.. times are shifting
Wow, this is one of the most intellectual ❤ i have seen so far . Regarding the music industry, she said it all without saying anything compromising herself. Regarding geopolitacal facts, she nows her subject very well. I understand better now who she is and got all my respect.❤
patrick- she faced the dark forces running the music and the world and is still alive- very sensitive topic- we dont know what she went through- and what they did to her kid- so we dont want to create that again by putting her on the spot- shes brave but may not want to go over it all over again. great choice for a pod cast- thanks which I got to co host this
I saw MIA at le nef in France 2008, Amazing artist, sending blessings ❤
Man, at the end of the interview it got rough with how disengaged PBD was.
It's disrespectful to be looking at your phone, not giving verbal or physical cues to the person you're having a conversation with that you're listening. Clearly he wasn't. It's fine to switch subjects, but you need to have finesse about it, the lack of interest he showed in what she was saying towards the end was so embarrassing.
Because she didn't deliver. What did she think this was going to be about??
He's looking up information on the phone. Either that or his laptop. That's what interviewers do nowadays. It's normal procedure. He's not checking his social accounts.
I would be disinterested too she was talking a lot but not saying anything this entiiiire podcast my criticism is him not ever not stopping her & asking wtf she was going on about
She talked like politician, she's definitely being controlled or fearful
The secret service lady bout to get grilled.
🎯 Now that's the real headline.👍🏽
We MUST stay focused on what matters!
Oh, you didn’t hear? Apparently she’s not even secret service. They shorted his secret service detail so much that homeland security was actually there making up the vacancies. That’s why nobody had any idea what to do and it looked so unprofessional.
You mean the lady who couldn’t chase down a doughnut if it was on a turtles back? 😂 so sad that there is aaaaany excuse for such a physically inept person to be the position she’s in.
really
@@mariaalexander427ha focus on that distraction
I totally understand her line about no sleep = better because there’s no words wasted
AHHHH.. LIME WIRE... WHAT A TIME.. LOL
Patricks aiming for asian audience to boost his views bruh..!!!
before that i was using kazaaa , it was really big that time , napster was before that but internet speeds were not that good , but during kazaa filesharing became really big
Limewire was good. Kazza was the best though.
Damn we old 😅
Was it a music video? or a Cartel b-heading video? "double click to find out"
Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, 1 receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me
There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!
But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
Big thanks to Ms. Susan Jane Christy❤️✨💯May God bless Christy Fiore services,she have changed thousands of lives globally
How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?
I had no idea who T.I.A was before this podcast. I was totally mesmerized listening to her. I couldn't turn my ears off. Thank you PBD! You and your team are amazing!❤
MIA or Maya
That says a lot that you had no idea who she was prior to this interview. 😂
Thank you PBD! I really appreciate you taking time to sit down with MIA ❤ She is amazing.
When you can’t tell straight there’s something being covered up
Yooooo Miaaa.. much respect to you From Tbilisi.. thank you for highlighting. Next time you come, we make sure you enjoy it more❤
Holy cow she’s 49 years old…. She looks so good!
Been listening to her music since 2005! I knew her style of music would connect with me.
This podcast should have way more views... Insane 🤯
MIA is one of the most Important figures of our time. PBD always brings on someone we wana hear from. Thanks PBD 🥇
😂😂😂😂
PBD please do more live podcasts brother. We enjoy these specials, but we LOVE the home team pods. Anyway let’s see how this one is 🙂
huh?
eww why the audio quality is horrible the chemistry is bad live this way better
Yeah. I don't watch these to the end. More pop culture, which I hate.
He’s doing a agreat job because pbd giving us a lil bit everything politics, music , sports ect… if it was just one niche it would be boring
@@kilnmasterwe getting a lil bit of everything bro
First time watching this show. I love MIA's answers, how she shares so much about her culture and the connections she sees between Tamil and Aramaic language, etc. The host though - feels so disconnected from what she's saying, almost like he's trying to bait her into saying the most gossipy thing like "who's the most powerful in the industry? who copied you?" , not listening to her answers and in his phone texting the producer? I don't know this guy but I'm kind of surprised MIA is even on this show, I would've expected a better researcher and interviewer for her
Pat why won't you touch on Zionism or Peter theils connections to the CIA love your pod but Whitney Webb said certain pods take money to skip certain subjects this involves America and all of us big tech censorship etc
And HOW PETER THEIL LITERALLY "MADE" JD VANCE and BROUGHT him to TRUMP, who at the LAST MINUTE MADE him his VP RUNNING MATE: ruclips.net/video/NRNy8v_Ocgg/видео.htmlsi=4u3JbYLVYwDkc7Kt
Whitney Webb is fascinating but she makes a lot of conjecture and speculation and tries to inundate someone with "sources" to make what she is saying appear legit. However, if you looked into the sources, they aren't saying what she states they say.
She is an exceptional human on so many levels, a true artist, mother, teacher, advocate activist, futuristic renaissance super hero innovator banger maker
Never heard of this person, and don't care about her music nor the industry. But it meant a lot to PBD and from other comments, it meant a lot to many of you. In any case, I hope her future is bright!
Her latest music video - MIA Marigold is amaaazing. Its like being in Hamas. Same with Platforms where it feels like you are in Afghanistan!!!
LOVE MIA! Pure Talent, Super Sweet & A Stunning Human Being!
People like M.I.A. give me a hope, that with God's grace, our world can defeat Satan and all the evil .. We wili win this spiritual war .. Patrick huge respect for given M.I.A. a voice 💜💜💜💜
I simply adore M.I.A. especially the remix she did with T.I., Lil. Wayne, Kanye with the lil role she played her voice made it! She looks the same - as if she doesn't age - simply beautiful...
PBD was like a lawyer with those direct questions about the industry, she was dodging those direct questions like neo from the matrix....should have just said I plead the fif....
I really truly appreciate and enjoyed this show!!! Thanks PBD for having MIA as a phenomenal guest!
PBD dope interview. I think hands by far you are the best podcaster. Everything that you do and put out is amazing and just wanna give you ur flowers cuz you deserve it .. MUCH RESPECT
Shes extremely well spoken and seems like shes to real for that wicked industry
I feel sorry for her such a talented woman gone thru alot
As a Tamilian I can say she's right about 90% about what she's talking about the language Tamil and its relation to the middle east. Not sure about the stuff she talks about Jesus on the cross
@@JacobTimothyM lol I guess education has failed you. There is a lot of discrepancies in this tale. No. You are not related to that very vague and geopolitical neologism non-existent place that is called 'middle east'. First thing you need to know is that 'middle east' corresponds to the levant and the Arabian peninsula. The cities of Uruk and Suse ARE NOT even located there. The languages of the Elamites and Sumerians are not even Semitic. So MIA and you, and Tamil "nationalists" should change your narratives and concentrate on your South Asian rich heritage instead of attaching yourselves to places and people you know nothing about. Because you start sounding like the African Americans descendants of west African slaves claiming to be related to ancient Egyptians. It's pathetic.
Check out Maya's recent interview with Candace Owens...
MIA is the definition of growth... that a real bad girl bro❤
They can never make me hate you MIA. she’s so real for this world and considering what’s going on with the music industry and business side of it I believe what she’s expressing 💕✨✨💕💕
I was a ride or die M.I.A. fan back in the Limewire days before MySpace became a thing. Insane to think how she was the first artist to really break the internet. Last time I went to her concert was in Brooklyn summer of 2010. I was 19 years old. That’s probably right when she had her baby and was dealing with custody with Roc Nation. Insane to think they had that kind of legal hold on her. God bless her. No one deserves that.
I’ve really enjoyed your podcasts PBD. I’ve been a listener for the past year or so and truly think the future looks bright. Are there any hopes that the home team podcasts will increase the closer we get to election? I much rather come here to get my news than any other outlet.
I've been following you since day 1. Your music has been on my playlist on a loop for 20 years. Keep being unapologetically real.
M. I. A. is her name. Maya is a whole other person. She tried to gently correct you but you weren't listening. Unfortunately it's clear you are not familiar with her.
Isn't her full name Mathangi "Maya" Arulpragasam?
M.I.A is her stage name not her real name. Her name is Maya.
Yes@@kevenpeoples
This video was extremely informative 👏 Thank you 🙏🏼
Long way for her to say "the industry is sick"
Just cuz she couldnt make it doesnt mean industry is bad or what ever !!!!
@@sameersheriff7078 she couldn't make it? She made it. Billions of views on social media. That residual income means she's rich
@@BOZ_11 What about her songs though hardly heard any of it and has just handful of views and now shes more into podcasts taking crap about expanding consciousness and shit promoting drug use 😂 !!!
Maybe a track in nfs hot pursuit which was "born free " I guess other than that not much !!!
Her song called time traveller was trending on social media some months ago that's how I came to remember her other than that there are loads of better artists than her and this whole interview is to pander to asian audience to boast views !!!
@@sameersheriff7078 " has just handful of views"
Handful. Stop writing, just go to her social media accounts. Tens of millions PER video
Initially, The US kept her banned from the US Market... They wanted to call her a terrorist. Kind of like when the US Banned the (Aboriginal American)Red Bone song, " we were all wounded at wounded knee"... Shitty US Government... US Governmental Terrorist calling People Terrorists...
wu tang Pharrell and Kanye made me weird . but when m.i.a dropped PaperPLanes.... it gave me full and absolute confidence too live my life as an ODDBALL/outlier/risktaker/tastemaker . thank you girl I shot the music video for the first remix to paper planes on youtube
What happened with MIA is just what happens under capitalism - re-appropriation of any dissenting/critical voice/position by integrating into the dominant cultural perspective/position. In other words, make the dissenting perspective into a commodity to identify with, and then to profit from. Which is to say: defang it by making it disingenuine.
He kept a global artist in a concrete cell
BIG FACTS around 1:28:00 min mark! That's the real conversation.
Wtf?! Are you high?! Without exaggeration, dumbest guest so far! Jesus spoke Tamil, she doesn't know what capitalism is, fashion will change the world, her son has swagger bla bla. Who even cares what this internet celebrity has to say?
Thanks for wasting my time! I was about to skip this whole thing but I clicked on your timestamp thinking you might be an average smart internet user. Use the time stamp responsibly next time!
She's Sri Lankan . Proud of her as a fellow Sri Lankan.
Don’t let soldier boy find out she’s saying she’s the first😂😂
I mean the truth does hurt the best of us at times😉
Who?
Facts! 😅
@@widerthanpicturessoldier boy!! Know your pop culture!
@@sarahalderman3126 The truth is Soulja was the first internet star. He came out in the early 2000s releasing songs on illegal music sites. and mia came out in the 2010s
They can never make me dislike her. She's smart.
She’s one of the most unique artists of the last 20 years
I subscribed to this channel because of this interview. 🔥
Great to take a break from politics! Great interview!
She's the real deal and the music industry couldn't handle it. I hope she never changes. Great video!
Ooo I have been waiting on this one! Hi MIA from my daughter and my sons and myself! It’s been awhile and they miss you and your talent girl. ❤ your story… remarkable. 100% w/you. Take care and God bless you 💐🙏🏼 Us little people care much, much, for you darling.
M.I.A. Has been my musical role model since 2009. God bless her.
She has heard and knows a lot of things about the industry and society in general. Never compromised and dignity still in check but she def knows a lot of things🤔
She's got so much charisma. Feminine magic.
Thank you ma'am.
Hello PBD i'm from Georgia and i love ur podcast 💥 Thank u MIA Georgia loves u.
no one in the corner has swagger like us lolol
My sisters and I bumped her “Akala” album in the car nonstop it was our pregame tracks for the Buck wildness about to drop. Now being born again and watching her come to Christ has been mind blowing!
It just seems like this is the second time I’m seeing PBD trying to gain footing into the music and entertainment industry… It feels like he’s looking for his next guest, through her, after not getting the information he wanted from Dame… I’m over half way through and it’s a bit of a tough watch with the messy tabloid questions… But I’m still rocking with you PBD, great show 😎🤝
Thank you MIA for the music you create and for being who you are ❤
Tamil is a classical language. Old as Latin . But she is linking Aramaic to Tamil..
Tamil is older than Latin. Aramaic is native to Ancient Mesopotamia.
after 1000 years from now on people gonna say the same for someone's speech in the future ,, she is linking korean to tamil LOL
I love MIA, she's just so genuine, the real deal, I understand her spiritual perspective too having a decent education in Hinduism, and she is deep, she makes great connections, definitely not your average shallow pop star that at the end of the day only cares about money, again, she's the real deal, as weird as it might sound she grew above material wealth. She also looks amazing at her age and her mixed brit/yank accent is simply wonderful. MIA Forever, Forever MIA 👍🏻🖤🏴☠️
M.I.A. big fan here, love your music