Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel | Carl Safina | Talks at Google
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Award-winning author and renowned ocean conservationist Carl Safina discusses his new book "Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel." Hailed as "a beautifully written, provocative case for seeing animals through their eyes" by Discover magazine, "Beyond Words" draws from decades of observation of African elephants in Kenya’s Amboseli National Park, free-living wolves in Yellowstone, and societies of killer whales in the Pacific Northwest. Taking us into their lives and minds, Safina reports on the astonishing similarities between our minds and theirs (including a surprising capacity for self-awareness, empathy, and grief) and offers a graceful examination of what makes us human. carlsafina.org/
I'm reading this and am halfway through. It is very good. His writing style flows and the content is excellent.
"Who are we here on Earth with is really the point" - totally true!
Makes so much sense. Really enjoy listening.
Wow, looks like you have finally found an interesting & relevant topic to present.
Guess your spyware on my devices has paid off a bit, since you are seeing & hearing that my love for animals, spirituality, and environmentalism, are my passions in life.
great talk, I hope ther will be a follow up talk for his next book that was released a few months ago.
15:30 - What makes us human?
20:00 - Elephants' outright lewdness (no other way to call it without sugar-coating)
21:00 - The trait continuum
21:45 - Plant sentience?
Human exceptionalism
23:28 - Love?
Outstanding discussion! :-)
now if we could just get all non vegans of the world to see the pain and suffering they are causing. Animals are my friends. I don't eat my friends. The golden rule.
+Peter Kotasek I eat meat but still don't eat my friends
+Josip Ivanić exactly. my sister once said to me when I ate some eggs and bacon, that my meal was a meal of animal suffering. I was like "no, it is just my delicious tasting meal, I am a nice person, what do you want from me crazy person?" No one eats meat because they do not respect or like animals. We eat it, because we disconnect the information. A key thought for me was "would I go eat outside now and kill one of the chickens/cows/rabbits because I would love the taste?" I mean I could feed myself without killing them, I would only do that if I absolutely had to. So I decided that as long as it is not neccesary, I would not harm animals (through my intentional behavior , so this means also in the restaurant/supermarket). This is a quite moral/ethical decision for me which does not involve fuzzy feelings of "all animals are my fluffy friends". I also make sure to never accuse anyone for eating meat, because I once did it myself and I am not a differnt person now. I just make different decisions.
+PeterK -V You are aware that animals eat other animals, with as much ferocity and gore as humans consume them.. right?
Animals also are cruel; the more intelligent they are, the crueler they can be. Dolphins are known to rape their mates, certain birds kill just for fun and some apes kill the babys of their rivals. Would you say that these things are OK for humans to do because animals do it too? Plus animals do not have the capacity to have moral/ethical considerations, therefore they can not be expected to act as if they did. Furthermore, in factory farming, we inflict suffering on animals that is completely unnecessary; animals do not keep other animaly in captivity where they suffer until they are killed; animals kill what they need to kill. Theodore M. K.
Theodore M. K. The great thing about being human is we can make a choice to eat animals or not eat them. Carnivores don't have a choice. They must eat them. Omnivores like bears have a choice as well but they just eat things that are plentiful and some of it is meat. I've made a moral connection that animals want to live just like I want to live. That way I can enjoy their beauty from a distance. It's becoming clear they possess the same traits as humans. They have a language, build homes, raise their young, they get happy, sad, mad, become afraid and they probably wonder about their future. So just as I won't eat my dog I decided to cut out 5 other animals as well (cow,pig,sheep,birds and fish). There are many other reasons like climate change, health etc. Also we get everything we need from plants. Animals eat plants to live we eat animals. I just cut out the middle man and go directly to the source of all my vitamins and nutrients and protein.
กูเกิ้ลแปลภาษาคนไปคนได้แล้วนับเป็นหลายร้อยภาษาทั่วโลก ... ต่อไป กูเกิ้ลจะทำเทคโนโลยีแปลภาษาสัตว์ คน ... ทำให้เราสามารถเข้าใจว่าสัตว์คิด หรือ พูดอะไรออกมา และ สัตว์ก็จะได้เข้าใจสิ่งที่เราคิด หรือ พูด ได้ด้วย ...
ลองคิดดูว่า ผลกระทบมันจะมหาศาลขนาดไหนครับ เมื่อเราคุยกับสัตว์ได้ เกษตรกรรม และ อุตสาหกรรมอาหาร และ ระบบเศรษฐกิจที่เป็นอยู่ทุกวันนี้ จะเปลี่ยนไปอย่างที่เรายากที่จะจินตนาการเลย คอยดูครับพี่น้อง !!
Why is it even necessary to explain, this? Another approach, What makes humans deny the obvious?
Sad to see that this has so little views confirmed that some humans don't want to accept care animals matter🐴🐑🐮🐯🐺🐶🐱🐫🐦🐣🐢🐓🐀🐃🐅🐬🐟🐠🐚🐂🐉🐊
Slight correction, anesthesia for a heart operation does in fact damage the brain.
Mankind, being the youngest species on this planet has the least developed social structure, in terms of the cooperative nature of all life, as only time, experience and cultural education can alter and improve the basic instinctive relationships to environment and community a species is born into, thus empathy, cooperation, compassion and love are highly complex evolutionary traits which require millions of years exposed to the natural order of L.O.V.E. to acquire throughout a populations history. Humanities challenge is to survive long enough to embrace this natural order...
It is the Shepherd who leads the lambs to slaughter, while the Wolf desires the flock roam healthy, united and free....
Time4Change
Watch4The*Sign...
Yuehan Chanterelle Yes*indeed, excuse*me for NOT being more literal on YT, 'one of the youngest species' ;)-
Isn't a yawn a mechanism the human body does with out thought to increase oxygen in take so we can stay away during a dull talk or on a warm day sitting in the sun basking to keep us alive for when the big bad wolf comes along for a snack.
yawning gives an extra injection of oxygen to the brain, i believe
Yes...
Carl Safina's definition of "love" and use as an argument for justifying animals feeling the same emotion is so weak and just outright laughable, I think he's doing the animals an injustice. I expected more from a guy with a BA, masters and doctorate in Ecology. I am however, still interested in the book and bet it's a great read.
+Theodore M. K. (BarbarossaSC2) Have you read the book? He explains a lot of his ideas on "love' in the book. I'm not really sure how his theory is laughable. Having grown up on a farm raising livestock and then exploring animals in Africa, I beg to differ with you on such a statement. If you have a chance, I do encourage you to read the book. It's been a great read during our time in Southern Africa.
Matthew Mansfield I'll try to read it. Like I said, I get it's a great read. Perhaps I can uncover a better description than what was presented here.
+Theodore M. K. (BarbarossaSC2) Having read the book, his main point (which was only briefly introduced here) was that we should not narrowly define love so as to exclude anything which doesn't look identical to human 'love.' He clearly outlines evidence for intra- and inter-species animal attachment that is analogous to human attachment.