Conclave players have been using the Roll Dash cancel for a while now, called the Mexian. Emotes are much more broken than you'd think, keep messing with them. There's a lot more than just movement tech. Fun fact: You can do melee combos off of walls if you hold the crouch button next to a wall and melee during wall latch. You can combine this with the Roll Dash. It's also possible to get a Bullet Jump input during that entire sequence. I have some clips with an input overlay of me doing Bullet Jump Wall Mexians. Some more weird movement stuff: -Being able to Slide during a Slam, applying the Slide damage multiplier -Rolling after every odd shot of an Akimbo secondary doing an oddly quick dash with a different animation -You can Roll Dash/Mexian with slide attack momentum. Try Daggers or Sparring slide kicks
Didn't know that it was called the Mexian, never heard it before. I have started using emotes a lot more since I found out about the emote cancel, not just for movement. What else can you do with it? I knew you could do melee combos of wall latch, but why crouch? Also I would love to see how Bullet Jump Wall Mexians work.
My clan and I use to do the mexian (didn't know it was called that) back when operator swapping was instant with no cooldown. Back in the focus 1.0 era, we'd also be able to do wall attacks, operator cast and emote cancel for crazy momentum. I left the game after the level scaling changes and I'm just coming back but it's cool to see guys like you and the video poster still finding stuff like this
This is INSANE, I didn't know some of this stuff was actual mechanics, I guess its so second nature to me sometimes or maybe just "bugs" that keep on happening semi consistently. Kudos for explaining this in detail
for the peeps trying to learn void dash cancel, try starting out and jumping up from a higher elevation from the ground like a rock or something ( to give abit of extra airtime for the button press sequence if u have slow fingers like me lol since u need to do it before ur warframe hits the ground after transferance out), after u got the muscle memory u can start doing it on flat ground :)
Amazing video! For the roll dash cancel, would you be able to type out the order of inputs? I'm not looking to build a macro or anything, I just find it hard to interpret the inputs on the screen.
Its: Forward dash combo ((Right Click + W) + E) -> Jump and switch weapon (Space + F) -> Roll (Which I have bound to Alt/Scroll wheel down. A video with the overlay working properly: ruclips.net/video/yEmCmoZPblI/видео.htmlsi=Wla1DEzbiDnTz0_Q
A few days have passed and I'm able to perform the void dash cancel and the dash cancel with ability consistently, however I have not been able to replicate the roll dash cancel ONCE after hours. I feel like we're missing some inputs in the videos (including the hidden video with a more detailed explanation). If anyone has gotten a macro so we can see the timings of the presses that would be great.
@unodemuchos1154 What you can do is bind the buttons in a better way. So for example binding roll to scroll wheel. That way your thumb doesn't need to move from space to alt so you get more control of timing. I got this after a few minutes of testing with Roll on scroll wheel down: ruclips.net/video/yEmCmoZPblI/видео.html I don't really know how to show/explain it further than I already have. I still don't recommend making macros because of how DE is and it's kinda cheesy IMO.
another tech that i'd like to mention is that you can dash cancel excalibur's 1. i thought this was some kind of bug, but i guess it's one of the hidden tech. i tried this tech like last year or 2, hopefully they haven't patched this tho.
@user-wv4bo5oh7r just cast his 1 (but be sure there's enemy nearby) and quickly roll forward. it's like immediately cancelling the dash and its super fast.
OK so I figured out you can bind jump to your scroll wheel to make the void dash cancel INSANELY easy, just bullet jump, double tap your transference bind, and when the transition from Operator to Warframe is about halfway done, start scrolling and holding right click to aim glide, you get crazy speed.
@@Orphioux yup, its more consistent in the air than on the ground, but if you time your transference inputs and scrolling correctly, its possible, rather than trying to input it and failing miserably. I find it best to start scrolling like mad around 10%-25% of the way though the transference animation BACK into your warframe.
@@zypherioxx Thanks for the reply, I must just be too old or my pc too ass or something I tried the dash cancel for solid thirty minutes and couldn't even get it to do a slight glide so I thought it must have been nerfed 😭
This was a great help. For the void dash cancel, I find it for myself it helps to try and time transference back in about at the same time the Void Dash happens. Before I was thinking about it as a sequence and it kept tripping me up. Also, I've noticed that you can sometimes get it "late" and get a slower speed boost. Definitively very fun tech to master, makes zipping around open worlds really fun. On a more technical note, does your frame need to be mid air for the void dash cancel to work properly? Early on, sometimes I'd do it too late and do the cancel without any speed. I figured that maybe your frame needs to still be mid air for it to work?
@@Harkovff Thanks for the confirmation! I got pretty consistently assuming it was the case but now that I know, I'm sure I'm not spreading misinformation if anyone happens to ask. Again, thanks for the great vid.
last clip he's got the decrees that increase your mag size + the decrees that can reload your mag when you kill someone, and when it reloads it doesnt reload from reserves
Really appreciate this kind of content. Would it be possible for you to show us how you apply these techniques on a mission and move around the tilesets?
Keystroke = press and release. In case that is not available in whatever software your making your macro it would be: Emote hotkey(press) -> Emote hotkey(release) -> 1ms -> Emote hotkey(press) -> Emote hotkey(release)
Hey, important question: i’ve been making use of the void dash cancel for about a month now. I change a setting completely unrelated to my controls and all of the sudden it no longer works even though i reverted the setting i changed. I had the tech down do muscle memory so i know it isn’t a skill issue. Anyone else have this problem?
Maybe it could be a hardware issue that coincidentally happened at the time you changed the setting but its very unlikely. I don't really know what else it could be. What was setting? If it was I can try to replicate it.
@@thelegend9654 And you were able to do it before, changed the bind and then it wasn't working (all without closing the game?) I don't know a lot about how WF on controller/console works but I know someone was talking about how changing binds on controller can mess with things... I'll try to find the comment.
dash cancel with ability is by far the easiest out of these, i low key can't figuere it out with operator and the dashroll and dash emote seems like u need macro's or weird settings for those
I am struggling so much with getting anything to work at all. For the life of me... all i want is to void dash cancel and i cannot do it. I'm at 124 fps.. dunno if higher or lower is better. I've watched your button presses frame by frame and am trying to transference before "jumping" or nearly at the same time and all i get is a super slow version of it. At this point it's just so much easier and faster to void sling normally... idk what the hell i'm doing wrong
Also, plz don't mistake my frustration.. it is NOT geared towards you at all. I super appreciate this video and the detailed breakdown!! I am only frustrated with myself and my skill level. Clearly this takes lots of practice. I was able to get the melee dash down thankfully. I wish I could just get the void sling to work since i feel it would work with any frame in more situations
@@smortonmedia if you used a mouse button macro, theres people with lists here, here it is translated to ahk send {5 down} send {space down} sleep 300 send {space up} send {5 up} after using ahk for it and getting that to work and seeing what timing broke it and didnt break it, i was able to get it once in a while, but to me its feeling like i cant get it any more consistent than like, once in every 50. playing on 350 fps btw
@@smortonmediame and my friend are having the same problem we just can’t do it, he WAS able to but changed a setting that had nothing to do with movement and he’s no longer able to do it, he’s reset setting and done everything and it’s just disabled for him now never worked for me he tried, he had the muscle memory down too. It’s definitely weird and inconsistent
It's harder, but the block forward melee ability cancel is the easiest one. Void dash cancel used to work for me I'd cancel with melee but I can't get it to work anymore.
@@HarkovffI’ve been trying to do it with void dash but I can’t get it to work. To be clear, you just exit operator and jump? How tight is the window? Because the ability button also brings up the menu to choose an ability with A as one of the options this might not work with conventional bindings, I’ll test others though.
@@xslite300 It probably means that you’re doing transference to late. Transference has to be slightly before the dash (around 10ms). Try exiting earlier and you’ll probably get it.
@@Harkovff yeah thats why i was confused lol, you think maybe you can make a dedicated vid just on the rdc? I make speed builds so it would be nice to learn this
@@jasongrace8000 I made the video but its with voice because I felt it was needed for a better explanation (I am kinda sick though) ruclips.net/video/pAgU1AAU8Yk/видео.html
I’m now proud that I figured this out before other people discovered it🤣 of course I didn’t try to gatekeeper, I just didn’t think that if I made a RUclips video that it would get much engagement. But I did try to show friends how to do it
Because it gives you more freedom and control. Every stance is also different so you'd have to make a different macro for every stance. You can also do some fun stuff with the void dash cancel when you mess with the timing which is not possible with a macro.
are there any specific settings required to do the void dash cancel? I studied the input frame by frame and still haven't gotten it once after 30 min of practice
@@Glapp Here’s a video with the input overlay working properly: ruclips.net/video/yEmCmoZPblI/видео.htmlsi=kTSSFc1BdLxcp8tS (“Mouse Wheel Down” is roll) Yes macros are bannable but I don’t think they will do anything if you use it for this.
If you want to use a macro i use this: {transference}↓ | 1ms | space↓ | 300ms | space ↑ | {transference}↑ keep in mind the 1ms is dependant on your fps i use 165 you probably will need to change that value till its right also you need to do bullet jump and transference in manually, havent been able to automate that process
@@xslite300 i got my scroll wheel up bound to jump and scroll wheel down bound to operator, my game just wont let me go to operator without finishing the slinging animation first.
@@shypd It probably means that you’re doing transference to late. Transference has to be slightly before the dash (around 10ms). Try exiting earlier and you’ll probably get it.
macro for void dash as my hands are slow (I'm using razors macro system) 0s press (operator swap key bind) 0.01s release (operator swap key bind) 0.15s press (operator swap key bind) 0.001s press space 0.05s release (oparator swap key bind) 0.01s release space notes: my fps is about 400+ when solo so you may need to change timings and test when not host you seem to get vacuumed lower when you return to warframe so over jump the starting height or you eating dirt lol
Fair wanring to anyone who might use macros de has perma banned people for them(the cheat detection system) they allow 1 to one macro inputs where one button does one thing but the anticheat can flag and ban you even with 1to 1 sometimes just fair warning its happened to a lot of people before who do endurance runs(there could be multiple things flagging it but most of the unban appeals seem to be for macro)
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Conclave players have been using the Roll Dash cancel for a while now, called the Mexian.
Emotes are much more broken than you'd think, keep messing with them. There's a lot more than just movement tech.
Fun fact: You can do melee combos off of walls if you hold the crouch button next to a wall and melee during wall latch. You can combine this with the Roll Dash.
It's also possible to get a Bullet Jump input during that entire sequence. I have some clips with an input overlay of me doing Bullet Jump Wall Mexians.
Some more weird movement stuff:
-Being able to Slide during a Slam, applying the Slide damage multiplier
-Rolling after every odd shot of an Akimbo secondary doing an oddly quick dash with a different animation
-You can Roll Dash/Mexian with slide attack momentum. Try Daggers or Sparring slide kicks
I've done the slide slam thign by accident so many times but never knew there was a consistent way to do it, thats sick
Didn't know that it was called the Mexian, never heard it before.
I have started using emotes a lot more since I found out about the emote cancel, not just for movement. What else can you do with it?
I knew you could do melee combos of wall latch, but why crouch?
Also I would love to see how Bullet Jump Wall Mexians work.
My clan and I use to do the mexian (didn't know it was called that) back when operator swapping was instant with no cooldown. Back in the focus 1.0 era, we'd also be able to do wall attacks, operator cast and emote cancel for crazy momentum. I left the game after the level scaling changes and I'm just coming back but it's cool to see guys like you and the video poster still finding stuff like this
Now to wait for this video to become popular so DE can take the fun away
@@Delirium222 doubt it
This is INSANE, I didn't know some of this stuff was actual mechanics, I guess its so second nature to me sometimes or maybe just "bugs" that keep on happening semi consistently. Kudos for explaining this in detail
It's not technically a mechanic because it wasn't designed to do that. It's an exploit.
@@montypython5521 Cool one tho. This is great movement tech.
Nerf inbound. The acolytes of the nerf hammer have been informed 🫠
I always end up doing this on accident sometimes 😅
for the peeps trying to learn void dash cancel, try starting out and jumping up from a higher elevation from the ground like a rock or something ( to give abit of extra airtime for the button press sequence if u have slow fingers like me lol since u need to do it before ur warframe hits the ground after transferance out), after u got the muscle memory u can start doing it on flat ground :)
I'm getting flashbacks to GunZ. I simultaneously love and hate that. The latter is primarily my wrist talking.
This is cool! Thank you for sharing, I now must translate this to Controller!
looks like that dude in the comments was onto something with the emotes
He was, I had no idea about it.
Insane find
conclave moment
Amazing video! For the roll dash cancel, would you be able to type out the order of inputs? I'm not looking to build a macro or anything, I just find it hard to interpret the inputs on the screen.
Its: Forward dash combo ((Right Click + W) + E) -> Jump and switch weapon (Space + F) -> Roll (Which I have bound to Alt/Scroll wheel down.
A video with the overlay working properly: ruclips.net/video/yEmCmoZPblI/видео.htmlsi=Wla1DEzbiDnTz0_Q
@ thank you so much! Love your stuff!
A few days have passed and I'm able to perform the void dash cancel and the dash cancel with ability consistently, however I have not been able to replicate the roll dash cancel ONCE after hours. I feel like we're missing some inputs in the videos (including the hidden video with a more detailed explanation). If anyone has gotten a macro so we can see the timings of the presses that would be great.
@unodemuchos1154 What you can do is bind the buttons in a better way. So for example binding roll to scroll wheel. That way your thumb doesn't need to move from space to alt so you get more control of timing.
I got this after a few minutes of testing with Roll on scroll wheel down: ruclips.net/video/yEmCmoZPblI/видео.html
I don't really know how to show/explain it further than I already have. I still don't recommend making macros because of how DE is and it's kinda cheesy IMO.
another tech that i'd like to mention is that you can dash cancel excalibur's 1. i thought this was some kind of bug, but i guess it's one of the hidden tech. i tried this tech like last year or 2, hopefully they haven't patched this tho.
how do you do it
@user-wv4bo5oh7r just cast his 1 (but be sure there's enemy nearby) and quickly roll forward. it's like immediately cancelling the dash and its super fast.
OK so I figured out you can bind jump to your scroll wheel to make the void dash cancel INSANELY easy, just bullet jump, double tap your transference bind, and when the transition from Operator to Warframe is about halfway done, start scrolling and holding right click to aim glide, you get crazy speed.
Is this still working for you?
@@Orphioux yup, its more consistent in the air than on the ground, but if you time your transference inputs and scrolling correctly, its possible, rather than trying to input it and failing miserably. I find it best to start scrolling like mad around 10%-25% of the way though the transference animation BACK into your warframe.
@@zypherioxx Thanks for the reply, I must just be too old or my pc too ass or something I tried the dash cancel for solid thirty minutes and couldn't even get it to do a slight glide so I thought it must have been nerfed 😭
This was a great help. For the void dash cancel, I find it for myself it helps to try and time transference back in about at the same time the Void Dash happens. Before I was thinking about it as a sequence and it kept tripping me up.
Also, I've noticed that you can sometimes get it "late" and get a slower speed boost. Definitively very fun tech to master, makes zipping around open worlds really fun.
On a more technical note, does your frame need to be mid air for the void dash cancel to work properly? Early on, sometimes I'd do it too late and do the cancel without any speed. I figured that maybe your frame needs to still be mid air for it to work?
The frame needs to be of the ground because otherwise it’s affected by friction and that’s what makes it not work (or really weak)
@@Harkovff Thanks for the confirmation! I got pretty consistently assuming it was the case but now that I know, I'm sure I'm not spreading misinformation if anyone happens to ask. Again, thanks for the great vid.
Ima try this now.. but wait.. wtf is this last clip xD
Okay , i finally did it , this was a great help understanding how it work
Thx you a lot
last clip he's got the decrees that increase your mag size + the decrees that can reload your mag when you kill someone, and when it reloads it doesnt reload from reserves
Goated
oh god mexian...
I tried the void dash version last night and failed miserably lol. I was doing it too slow
The syam is completly bugged, you can cancel every animation with guard with it, you can dash cancel without emote with it
Really appreciate this kind of content.
Would it be possible for you to show us how you apply these techniques on a mission and move around the tilesets?
Thank you, and I can, but the movement in and of itself isn't too interesting. But one day maybe.
how come when i try to void dash cancel, my warframe always appears below my operator?
I don't understand the void dash cancel
Around 1:35, what do you mean by keystroke? I'm trying to make a macro as I dont have the same mobility in my hands as most do.
Keystroke = press and release.
In case that is not available in whatever software your making your macro it would be:
Emote hotkey(press) -> Emote hotkey(release) -> 1ms -> Emote hotkey(press) -> Emote hotkey(release)
Really cool🎉
Hey, important question: i’ve been making use of the void dash cancel for about a month now. I change a setting completely unrelated to my controls and all of the sudden it no longer works even though i reverted the setting i changed. I had the tech down do muscle memory so i know it isn’t a skill issue. Anyone else have this problem?
Maybe it could be a hardware issue that coincidentally happened at the time you changed the setting but its very unlikely. I don't really know what else it could be.
What was setting? If it was I can try to replicate it.
@@Harkovff it was on ps5, i changed a controler bind. Right arrow to gear bind 1. After that it never worked
@@thelegend9654 And you were able to do it before, changed the bind and then it wasn't working (all without closing the game?)
I don't know a lot about how WF on controller/console works but I know someone was talking about how changing binds on controller can mess with things... I'll try to find the comment.
I still have no idea how in the hell to do this rofl
dash cancel with ability is by far the easiest out of these, i low key can't figuere it out with operator and the dashroll and dash emote seems like u need macro's or weird settings for those
Some of these movements are weapon specific.
More stance specific, but yeah.
ohhh you need to transference before you hit the jump input for void dash cancel
i thought it was a melee after you void sling
I am struggling so much with getting anything to work at all. For the life of me... all i want is to void dash cancel and i cannot do it. I'm at 124 fps.. dunno if higher or lower is better. I've watched your button presses frame by frame and am trying to transference before "jumping" or nearly at the same time and all i get is a super slow version of it. At this point it's just so much easier and faster to void sling normally... idk what the hell i'm doing wrong
I am also on 120fps but keep trying you'll eventually get it.
Also, plz don't mistake my frustration.. it is NOT geared towards you at all. I super appreciate this video and the detailed breakdown!! I am only frustrated with myself and my skill level. Clearly this takes lots of practice. I was able to get the melee dash down thankfully. I wish I could just get the void sling to work since i feel it would work with any frame in more situations
@@smortonmedia if you used a mouse button macro, theres people with lists here, here it is translated to ahk
send {5 down}
send {space down}
sleep 300
send {space up}
send {5 up}
after using ahk for it and getting that to work and seeing what timing broke it and didnt break it, i was able to get it once in a while, but to me its feeling like i cant get it any more consistent than like, once in every 50.
playing on 350 fps btw
@@smortonmediame and my friend are having the same problem we just can’t do it, he WAS able to but changed a setting that had nothing to do with movement and he’s no longer able to do it, he’s reset setting and done everything and it’s just disabled for him now never worked for me he tried, he had the muscle memory down too. It’s definitely weird and inconsistent
it looks like you have unique keybinds, do you need them to execute the tech? Or is it learnable with default?
You can do them on any keybinds
How to do this in xbox controller
I don't know what the corresponding buttons are on controller but it does work.
It's harder, but the block forward melee ability cancel is the easiest one. Void dash cancel used to work for me I'd cancel with melee but I can't get it to work anymore.
@@montypython5521 Try doing it by exiting with transference, it will be a lot easier that way.
@@HarkovffI’ve been trying to do it with void dash but I can’t get it to work. To be clear, you just exit operator and jump? How tight is the window? Because the ability button also brings up the menu to choose an ability with A as one of the options this might not work with conventional bindings, I’ll test others though.
I got it once, I had to transferred in way sooner than expected and bound transference to right on the d-pad. Now it’s all about timing.
cant void dash and transferance like you can, i have to finish the dash animation why wont my game work like yours?
@@xslite300 It probably means that you’re doing transference to late. Transference has to be slightly before the dash (around 10ms). Try exiting earlier and you’ll probably get it.
@@Harkovff thanks mate figured it out
Can someone explain what’s happening? I’ve watched the video like 4 times and I still don’t understand what to do
Which part?
Whats your roll input for the RDC?
@@jasongrace8000 wierd doesn’t even show, but it’s lalt
@@Harkovff yeah thats why i was confused lol, you think maybe you can make a dedicated vid just on the rdc? I make speed builds so it would be nice to learn this
@@jasongrace8000 I made the video but its with voice because I felt it was needed for a better explanation (I am kinda sick though) ruclips.net/video/pAgU1AAU8Yk/видео.html
@@Harkovff thanks alot man and get well
Is this possible to do on controller? Controller movement is a lot slower and harder to do than keyboard but this looks hella fun
@@I2-LEIE Yes,
void dash cancel: ruclips.net/video/QjqU9NRfQ14/видео.htmlsi=qJyjSmoPsLMSOHdi
Dash cancel: m.ruclips.net/video/RutdVXGxf_o/видео.html
I’m now proud that I figured this out before other people discovered it🤣 of course I didn’t try to gatekeeper, I just didn’t think that if I made a RUclips video that it would get much engagement. But I did try to show friends how to do it
PLEASE DON’T LET DE KNOW ABOUT THIS !!!!!!
PLEASE DE!!! IF U KNOW ABOUT THIS, DON’T FIX IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why would making macros for this be a bad idea?
Because it gives you more freedom and control. Every stance is also different so you'd have to make a different macro for every stance. You can also do some fun stuff with the void dash cancel when you mess with the timing which is not possible with a macro.
are there any specific settings required to do the void dash cancel? I studied the input frame by frame and still haven't gotten it once after 30 min of practice
No, my keybinds are different though but they don't make a difference.
i dont get the roll dash cancel, what keybind is even your roll? And btw, i guess macros are bannable?
@@Glapp Here’s a video with the input overlay working properly: ruclips.net/video/yEmCmoZPblI/видео.htmlsi=kTSSFc1BdLxcp8tS
(“Mouse Wheel Down” is roll)
Yes macros are bannable but I don’t think they will do anything if you use it for this.
@@Harkovff Nice thanks! Is there like a discord or something were funny techniques like this gets shared?
@@Glapp Not that I know of
How much is the attack speed in prados?Dash Cancel (Ability)
115% but you can do it with less
If you want to use a macro i use this:
{transference}↓ | 1ms | space↓ | 300ms | space ↑ | {transference}↑
keep in mind the 1ms is dependant on your fps i use 165 you probably will need to change that value till its right
also you need to do bullet jump and transference in manually, havent been able to automate that process
Great video! But can this be done on console?
Yes.
@@Harkovffcan you make a vid showing how to please I would appreciate it ALOT
@@AmuckScroll1850 Already did.
Dash Cancel: ruclips.net/video/RutdVXGxf_o/видео.html
Void Dash Cancel: ruclips.net/video/QjqU9NRfQ14/видео.html
is there nerfed? cant seem to do it anymore
nah you just gotta get good, its quite hard to pull off so i reccomend a macro
@@xslite300 i got my scroll wheel up bound to jump and scroll wheel down bound to operator, my game just wont let me go to operator without finishing the slinging animation first.
@@shypd It probably means that you’re doing transference to late. Transference has to be slightly before the dash (around 10ms).
Try exiting earlier and you’ll probably get it.
@@shypd what he said, you'll get it
@@shypdsame thing here just stopped working one day.
how did you went out of bounds on the corpus gas city?
If you go fast enough into the reset wall (black screen) and exit to operator you'll be out of bounds.
@Harkovff thank you
macro for void dash as my hands are slow (I'm using razors macro system)
0s press (operator swap key bind)
0.01s release (operator swap key bind)
0.15s press (operator swap key bind)
0.001s press space
0.05s release (oparator swap key bind)
0.01s release space
notes:
my fps is about 400+ when solo so you may need to change timings and test when not host
you seem to get vacuumed lower when you return to warframe so over jump the starting height or you eating dirt lol
thank you for this ^^ (I have 144 fps) mine is
0s press (operator swap key bind)
0.01s release (operator swap key bind)
0.15s press (operator swap key bind)
0.001s press space
0.001s release (oparator swap key bind)
0.01s release space
@jann8262 does your warframe also seem to get sucked into the ground?
Fair wanring to anyone who might use macros de has perma banned people for them(the cheat detection system) they allow 1 to one macro inputs where one button does one thing but the anticheat can flag and ban you even with 1to 1 sometimes just fair warning its happened to a lot of people before who do endurance runs(there could be multiple things flagging it but most of the unban appeals seem to be for macro)