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Only got a recall letter today October 2022 found this helpful video and my foam was disintegrated and all in the clear chamber the pump was in for a few months i had been waking up with the foam on my teeth and in cpap mask. I have had irritated throat eyes and nose for about 8 months that my dr had told me was probably a side effect of having covid. Cant believe it took Philips this long to notify me i had been breathing in and getting this toxic crap in my body for months before they even notified me.
I love how Philips considers the System One machine I have end of life, because it's older than 5 years. However, it only has 2200 hours on the blower, because I stopped using that machine long ago. At least daily. Thank goodness for that. I do, however, use that machine as a camping/power outage machine because of its native 12v power need. (Batteries work very well with it because the power doesn't have to be ramped up to 24v or 120v which maximizes the battery time). The good news is that my foam looked good. The better news, there is now no foam in the machine to harm me-- So I will continue to use it, minus the humidifier section for camping and power outages.
RUclips has something for everything! Thanks for being my sherpa! Reassembly note: Rather than going through reverse contortions putting back plate on and getting the fitting back into the impeller housing, just reassemble the whole thing outside the case and drop it back in. The same problems don't exist as with disassembly (that is, the back plate not allowing the tabs to release). Putting the whole thing in as a unit pops in with a satisfying snap. Thanks again!
Uncle Nicky, I followed your video and was able to remove the foam pad from my series 60 machine. Thank goodness the foam had not disintegrated but when I pulled it out it was sticky and crumbled in my fingertips. I wiped all the parts clean from dust and reassembled it perfectly. I have so much more peace of mind now that the foam is gone. My machine is old but still works well. Whether I receive a replacement after registering who knows. I feel fortunate my unit didn’t break down like some others I’ve read about. Thanks again for your care and knowledge
I will sleep better tonight because of your Nick!!! Bless you!! It took me about an hour to take it all apart and clean it and remove the "Death Foam"!! plugged it in and it actually works no screws left over either lol I also had to fix the button plastic was cracked super glue fixed that... Your a life saver Nick... I will be fixing others machines now as there is a supply chain issue with the Phillips cpap units can't get them on back order from CHINA of course when are Americans going to learn we need to manufacture here in USA...Thanks Brother!!!
My friend, I was able to complete the whole process in 15 minutes. My foam is dusty but still looks to be fully intact which was somewhat of a relief. I can't thank you enough for this assistance. Whether psychosomatic or not, I slept incredibly well last night for the first time in a long time. This is my backup unit to my Dreamstation, and the DS has never been as good as this System One. I won't be going back to Philips after this clusterfuck, but I still have a fondness for this System One unit that I used for 5 years. Hopefully it didn't poison me. Here's wishing that everyone here including me have escaped the grim possible health concerns. Philips, you'd best get ready. You won't get away from accountability on this one.
hahaha 'clusterfuck' i think that is the perfect word to describe the situation. Thanks for making me laugh and you're welcome ;-). I certainly won't be recommending any Philips equipment to my subscribers. Nick
Why did you not like the Dream Station as much as System One? I used System One for seven years; my Mom was supplied a Dream Station. I looked at her unit and had just switched over to ResMed, and I liked my ResMed AirSense 10 better. The Dream Station looked kind of cheap, only a b/w display, and didn't have as many options, like humidification level. I liked the ResMed nasal pillow mask better, too.
Thank you for this video. I was super uncomfortable continuing to use my Dreamstation after hearing about the recall. But I need it. Without it my brain refuses to switch off and go to sleep. I went through 3 horrendous years of chronic insomnia till I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. Six weeks with my device cured that. Now I cannot sleep without it. It’s like the moment put it on my brain knows ‘it’s time to sleep.’ So my husband followed your instructions and successfully removed the foam with minimal damage to device. I can now continue to use it. You cannot appreciate how much I am grateful to you for taking us through these steps.
Heard from Respironics today: “Philips Respironics System One, 60 Series Remediation We’re reaching out because you registered a System One, 60 Series CPAP and BiPAP devices in response to the Philips Respironics voluntary recall of CPAP, BiPAP and mechanical ventilator devices. One of the more complex aspects of the recall has been creating remediation options for older devices, such as the System One. These devices are past their warranty and useful life, which is typically 5 years. In the US, we had already stopped manufacturing the System One, 60 series devices prior to the voluntary recall given that they were discontinued in 2017. Because these units are no longer part of our supply chain, it has created unique challenges in inventory, sourcing the parts needed for repair and remotely extracting the prescription device settings needed to supply a replacement device. For all of these reasons, we have been working to find alternative remediation options for System One patients. We cannot offer System One patients a new or repaired version of their current product. We understand this may be frustrating, which is why we’re providing the following two options. You must select one of the following two options, there is no default option and in the absence of your selection, no action can be taken. Please sign into the Patient Portal to select your preference: OPTION 1 - Financial payment for return of affected units: Removing affected products from use is an important part of our remediation program. We also know many patients have waited for some time for a solution. Therefore, we are offering financial payments to patients of $50 per System One, 60 Series device returned to us. The payment that we are offering is to help ensure affected units are no longer in use. It will be paid via check when we receive your System One, 60 Series device. If your mailing address has changed since you have registered your device, or you would like to make your election over the phone, please call 877-907-7508. Please note return instructions will be included in the Patient Portal once you select this option. OPTION 2 - Continue remediation pathway to receive a replacement device: You will need to provide a current prescription. You may also have the option to provide additional information that will help us prioritize delivery based on need. If you elect to remain in the remediation pathway, you must make the selection in the Patient Portal, which will trigger a Philips Respironics team member to call you about obtaining your prescription through your doctor. Calls for patients without prescriptions is ongoing and is expected to last through the completion of the voluntary recall. If your shipping address has changed since you have registered your device, or you would like to make your election over the phone, please call 877-907-7508. Regardless of which option you select, we encourage you to consult with your physician about options for a new device to ensure continuity of care. Since your physician knows your medical history, they are most qualified to discuss options for therapy. You may also consider checking with your insurance provider whether you are eligible for reimbursement for a new device. Most insurance plans provide reimbursement every five years.”
saved me a grand and i can sleep tonight, too. You're great, man. Oh and ironically I fired up the unit having removed the foam and I can't tell that it's any louder at all.
I just completed this thanks to your guidance. Although I am an engineer, I still need guidance, especially to avoid breaking little plastic tabs and stuff like that! My foam is visually in perfect condition, no signs of degradation. It’s my understanding that it is only when the machines are disinfected using ozone, and maybe a few other conditions that evidently don’t apply to me, that the foam degrades. It’s unfortunate that Phillips are having to go through a multi hundred million dollar recall campaign when I believe these problems could’ve been sorted out on a local scale using the correct parts and some trustworthy and competent health equipment suppliers to swap out the foam.
Thank you so much for the instructions to remove the dreaded foam, all done whilst watching the vid, and actually a good learning curve and a chance to clean a fair bit of dust and grime after 10 years service, stay safe and keep doing what your doing.
I use this old CPAP at my parents’ house so I don’t have to haul my new one every time. I followed these instructions to remove the foam and it worked perfectly! Not exactly “easy” if you have no experience with electronics, but it was simple enough. The hardest part was getting the connector plug to the humidifier back in place, but it worked after some fiddling. If 1 is easy and 5 is difficult, I’d say this is about a 2 with the right tools.
Great Tutorial Man, I removed the foam from my Father's Cpap almost 3 months ago after watching your Video The sound is not that much louder. I am not able to express but the video came as a blessing for us. Keep up the good work dude
Well thank you, that was a fun and informative video. Husband and I had dug our old System Ones out of the closet while pondering what to do about the Dream Station recall situation, only to find out that both of them were also under recall. After watching your video, he decided to go ahead and surgically open them. His machine had severely degraded foam, it was even stuck to the bottom of the casing. Mine was in pretty decent shape. We removed the foam and cleaned them up. I'm going to try mine out tonight. I'd been continuing to use the Dream Station until now, as I can't go without, and haven't found available options while I'm waiting. It is sad to think I've been breathing whatever bad stuff for about 10 years, as I've had defective Respironics machines a couple times and they've been switched out by my DME provider. Hadn't noticed any problems until I started using the DS1 in 2017, when I began having sinus congestion and later heart issues. But we will probably never know for sure if there is any correlation. Anyway, thanks for the clear and concise video, and good luck to all of us! Oh, btw, we were not influenced to do this because of your video.
Thank you so much for this information! I have learned a lot about my health problems from being aware of this recall and watching your videos. I have found out why the headaches were appearing and other health issues. My CPAP is too old for the actual replacement and it made me aware that the company that supplied it, supplied an old CPAP machine because we were naïve. They charged us for loads of stuff we didn't need. Our Dr. kept writing them prescriptions. Our monthly bill was large. You are giving people a shortcut to understanding what is going on. I even went to clinic and was asking about my crap CPAP and I was told we were stuck with it. Well, my husband took them apart today and everything they say is going on with the foam is. I am of course waiting for the provider to come through. In the meantime I have a clean CPAP because you are helping people. My husband found a lot of foam in the turbine housing. The dishonest providers are a problem too. Again, Thank you!!!
Oh my gosh!! Thank you SO much!! I barely slept last night realizing the actual dangers. I’m going to have my husband fix the issue and bought the set from your Amazon link. Bless you! I’ll actually be able to sleep good knowing it’s out of there. You’re doing gods work. Thank you so so so much!! Peace of mind!
Wonderful Video! The foam in the bottom of my System One machine was 'wet' and it started to tear apart as I removed it from the bottom of the case. After I removed it, I cleaned that area with 91% IPA. My unit has 7 screws in the pump body, and I found it much easier to replace the pump body with 3 of its screws in place and tightened... it easily snapped into to place in the case bottom. Once the pump body was locked in place in the case bottom, (with its plastic tabs securing the lower portion of the pump housing), I removed the three screws and was able to easily install the side panel with the tube, afterward following your reassembly instructions. I am in the United States, and my unit's circuit board had no wire with a green pin socket.
Thank you for posting this video. I totally need CPAP because of a heart condition. I have a newer machine, but I rely on my old System One for camping and travel in my RV as I have a converter for it which allows me to power it on a 12-volt battery pack, and/or my RV camper battery. Your instructions were spot-on. I never would have attempted to remove the foam except for your very clear instructions which gave me the confidence to proceed. Super easy after watching your video. Thank You!!
Nick! My man! Brother from another mother hahaha. You've made me very happy my friend. When ever i do one of these vids i always imagine there's someone out there in the big wide world who it's made for and this one was for you. God bless, God speed and i wish i was cruising around in that RV with you! Lots love, your best mate from Melbourne, Australia. Nicko
I took the foam out just 10 minutes ago. The foam was caught in the motor and was just falling apart. Foam bits were everywhere! It took me longer to clean than take apart. Thank you!
@@mulligan-77 No, not at any of them. I took the foam out of an old one because insurance hasn't fully paid for the Dreamstation, yet.. Both had large foam bits choking me and had black flecks in the water chamber.
Ok, I just found out about the recall. I also found out that my morning congestion and cough may have been caused by this with my recent use of the Dreamstation 2. I had "this" old machine laying around as a travel machine. My Dreamstation 2 was my mainstay cpap provided by my healthcare provider. I pulled "this" old machine apart to find the foam deteriorated and falling apart. Excellent instructions by the way.. :) Removed foam, and did a thorough cleaning everywhere. Thank you so much for this video. I can have a sound piece of mind and a relaxed sleep now while I deal with this whole recall thing. Noise increase was not noticeable.
This foam is soft as butter. Have cleaned the machine with household alcohol. The alcohol dissolves the small foam residues that sit in the machine and in the engine's blower system. Hope the engine survives the cleaning in alcohol. My extra machine had no problems with this foam. Thanks for the video.
This one didn't have a little green cable, and I didn't notice it, until I got it back together and noticed the missing cable!! Took it all apart again, still no green cable. Got the old toxic filter out, (bagged it) cleaned everything up and my wife is back on her machine again! Sounds the same. The filter didn't look too bad. It seemed to only slightly degraded for a 7 year old filter. I expected to see it crumbling. Thanks for helping me Void warranty! :) Great video!
As you said 5 minutes. Mine was 5 years old and almost no dust in there, just some on the foam itself and in the filter slot. No foam degradation. I don’t hear the difference but maybe my hearing is shot. I have some sinus irritation so I thought why not pull the foam, save it to put back in later for what ever reason. If the noise were to be a problem I could always place a noise pad under the machine, or around it. I put mine in the bottom drawer where there’s plenty of space around it and over the top of the drawer. The air is dry around here ( San Diego) so I go through a lot of water usually R/O water. Thank you for the how to.
I finally remediated mine. It took me about 1.5 hours because I ended up with two extra parts. One white rubbery piece attached to inside opposite air filters. That was a head scratcher. It helps greatly to keep pump parts as one unit, something I learned the hard way.
I found about the recall yesterday. No idea there was an issue. Stumbled on it by accident. I followed this video and successfully performed the Foam-ectomy. My foam looked fine but it's out of there anyway. My unit is 14 years old and I was planning on replacing it. Thanks for the clear instructions.
While you are in there you have a great opportunity to deep clean the machine's non electric parts. I noticed the newer generation have very bad foam that crumbles, the older ones used some better foam. I also noticed the motherboard in these has quite a few milspec parts on it and it has a huge input power compliance range of 10.6 to 15 volts. Ran my wife's off a deep cycle battery and a solar panel when we were homeless for a few months. ❤
Got it done. I stopped by the CPAP store and they refused to remove the foam. Took me three tries to get it done as when I pulled out the foam, the soft rubbery piece at the very bottom of the machine popped out and I found it on the floor after I had put the machine back together, then got a wire caught underneath the motor and then the circuit board. So, watch everything carefully. Luckily, my foam, though dirty, seemed in good shape. Machine makes no more noise than it did with the foam. Slept really well with it, so I am very glad I was able to find your video. I signed up months ago for the recall and haven't heard a thing back yet and probably won't for ages to come. Now I have to find my ultrafine filters for the external port to put under the foam filter and I am good.
Great job and video. After seeing your ones about the recall, I contacted our provider on Tuesday and both my wife and I have appointments today to get replacement units. ResMed AirSense 10. Since mine is over 5 years old, I don't think they are going to take it back, so I will use this video to "fix" mine as a backup/camping unit. Thanks for all this great work and research!
Did you get yours replaced? Mine is over 10 years old, talking to Philips on the phone, sounds like they are going to replace it - and escalate the replacement due to particles coming out :(
@@vaxter yes, my wife and I got ours replaced by our provider but we got ResMed units. We got lucky as we contacted our provider almost immediately when the recall started, so they still had ResMed units to swap out with.
Great walkthrough. My brother has one of these he has been using for 10 years and he started getting foam pieces coming out last week. I just took his apart to remove the foam and there are pieces all through it. He is cleaning it now. He registered his device last week for the recall but has not been responded to yet. May be too late or old for them. But great info and videos about this and thanks for the easy-to-follow walkthrough.
Hey, just a heads up everyone. That little rubber bit under the processor board, make sure when you put the CPAP back together, you mount it on the tube under it, then place the board on it - and press on the board where it says PRESS HERE. I didnt do that the first time and left it on the board, so when I remounted it, it got cockeyed and caused my CPAP to not register resistance so that I had constant pressure. Hope that helps. Took me 2 days to figure out my error.
Thank you for the heads up on that. The first time I did it I didn’t know that. And I wouldn’t even noticed because I use constant pressure. But you saved me screwing up other peoples machines.
thank you for the guide.. i did not know about the recall but i have a system one.. and my wife was able to follow the procedure and remove the foam for me... it dose make the cpap noticeable louder but i gave it a try and it may have taken an extra min for me to fall asleep and woke up refreshed my cpap is over 10 years old and still running fine. now i have a reason for my medical insurance to need to replace my cpap but i will have a functional unit until i clear all the red tape and get a new one
Really thought I wouldn’t be able to do this anyway I bought screwdrivers set but needed t5 and t9 not t3 and I have exact same machine just know this guy is a life saver for showing us this information in such detail, looking forward to having a good nights sleep tonight and thank goodness my foam was intact 🙏🏻 still been breathing in fumes no doubt but no particles 🙏🏻 when I opened it up at first I only had three sets of wires to unclip as the green one nearest to the right wasn’t even there but the machine was still working and still is now anyone know why?? I have it serviced every two years and they open it up for servicing and no one noticed this!
Thanks for this. I've been dragging my feet on the recall. I'm gonna stop using my Dreamstation and go back to my old System One for now. It still works with no noticeable degradation in the foam.
Thanks for posting this...I didn't notice any change in the noise level after I removed the foam...I can now rest easy knowing I'm no longer breathing in the crap from it
Thank you so much for the step-by-step tutorial. Followed your steps and removed the foam completely, cleaned and disinfected every part in my PR System one. Thanks to you it was very easy to break the unit down and return it back to perfect working condition. My foam was very bad and disintegrated I hope I will be ok after probably breathing this stuff for a while.
@@CPAPReviews Please help, I have done the foam removal and my unit PR System 1 worked perfectly for one night then stopped and displayed "service required" any idea on how to fix this. Thanks again
Emboldened by these instructions, I ordered up a new little screwdriver assortment set and set to work on my Phillips Respironics. Just like he said, you need 2 torx bits and the little set I ordered came with these nice little thin plastic triangles that were perfect for pinning the fan housing spring clips out of the way (where he used the credit cards). Compared to mine, his foam looked perfect! Mine was a disintegrated mess that fell apart with a bit of movement and left a greasy residue behind. I had to scrub with a bottle brush and Dawn dishwashing liquid and hot water to get all of the residue behind. The device sounds a tiny bit more hollow when running, but really not that much. I'll be filing for a replacement, but given the long back-log on CPAP devices, I'll literally be sleeping better, knowing that the foam is long gone from my device. Here's my little screwdriver set that had everything I needed to do the job in about 30 minutes (well, that and my reading glasses): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08TBWD3TV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thank you, wish I found this sooner, my foam was entirely deteriorated like powdery and parts were missing. Have had lungs and asthma getting worse since i was 25 i developed an intense cronic cough like trying to clear my airway and lots of phlegm. No idea if this was the culprit but i just never imagined it. Thank you for the video, i am sharing this with everyone i kmow who has a cpap. Bittersweet learning about this all.
Thank you Sir! I successfully removed the foam and there is virtually no difference in the sound level before to after. Of course, I'm a plus 70 year old and according to my sweet wife I cannot hear very well anyway. But, I'll be using my older Resmed machine until I eventually receive my newer replacement to the Philip's model.
Thanks a million! One big worry off my mind now,..I hope all I got from years of the black foam was this infernal asthma, nose spray addiction, and enjoying the wonders of albuterol inhaler. No wonder all these expensive industrial grade Honeywell filters I put in my living room, bed room and at work didn't do anything. All the allergy meds did nothing. No matter what, for the last two years I've had this friggin cough. Ironically, the only time I don't have the cough is at night while using the RemStar,..I always thought it was my 'cough relief' machine! Anyway, excellent video! Luckily I just happened to have a set of those 'rare' screwdrivers in my toolbox (thanks harbor freight)...
Please don't shut down what is far and away the best Cpap info/advice channel on RUclips from a devoted watcher. Of course I have the very same Cpap machine you've done this demo on and though I have a Resmed S9 Autoset as back up I get far better results with the Respironics system One Auto. My question is how much difference to the noise level does the removal of the foam cause? If it only causes a minor raising of the noise level I think I'll have a crack at removing the foam following your detailed instructions.
Hi Howard, thank you mate, i needed that. I'm really tired though and it's putting a strain on my personal life so i need to have some time away :-). Hope you can understand. Regarding the machine, it was only marginally louder. That foam sits on the base of the motor casing so it only plays a small part in dampening some of the sound. Good to give the insides a good clean out also :-) All the best brother. Nick
Found out about the recall on Saturday. Tried sleeping without it. I had it on by the AM because i wake up so often. Removed the foam today, Sunday. It wasn’t coming apart. It was very dusty. Not surprising as I have used this machine daily for 4.5 years and i sleep next to a fan. But i have been experiencing asthma symptoms the last 6 months. Seemed worse in the morning after waking up. I sometimes need an inhaler after waking up due to inflammation. Removed the foam while waiting for the recall update. I want to see if my symptoms improve with it gone. But i’m gonna to try and swing a new machine if i can. I have no insurance.
Great video! Didnt take me too long… but my foam had almost a damp feeling… and was falling apart… I wonder if this will clear up my asthma that became significantly worse a year ago?
Thanks so much for this video. I had wondered where the foam in my system one was located. I am really happy to find out that the foam is not located inside the air duct unlike the other models where the foam is located inside the airduct and air passes by the foam.
Ookay I was wrong. I just found another video that shows the air travels through the foam and then into the air duct on the system one . That's depressing
Thank you so much I have a Phillips dream station two that I put up last night because of the things I’ve learned from you this video here told me how to take my wife’s dream station one and take foam Out in another video showed me how to change the air pressure setting to mine and I slept with it last night just fine you’re a godsend Grace and peace thank you
Thanks Nick!Successfully removed the "foam-o-death" from my machine.Your tutorial was a life saver.Thanks for looking out for us brother! Your enthusiasm is damn near contagious, glad I found your channel.Thanks again
Hi Keith, i'm very happy for you but please consider changing brands when you can. I don't want any of my viewers using Philips crap. It gives me nightmares. Cheers brother. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Yeah for sure I got a plan in the works, time for this dude to splurge and get himself the Airsense 10 perhaps? And you best believe I'm following your reviews. 😉
Thanks for the tutorial. I had one of these Systems one machines in my garage. It took me awhile to figure out how to separate the heated tank portion from the unit. But once I did I was able to take the filter out and put it back together. The system is a bit noisy now, but I like the sounds of fans at night anyway.
Hey Carlo, well done brother. Yeah it's a little bit noisier but i know there's people who would rather a little bit of noise than nights without therapy. I too like noise! I use a white noise machine every night and i love it. Stops my head from thinking too much. Take care legend. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Haha! Actually I hadn't put the rubber gasket on right over the water tank connection. That was why it was loud. Once I did that unit is super quiet now. Much quieter than the Dreamstation. I am wondering now if that foam ever did anything to the noise element.
Wow, thank you so much for this video. I have one of these machines and have been using a "so clean" activated oxygen device with it for about a year. The motor is now "whining", so I'm sure my machine has this issue. I’ll take the foam out tonight, and I’ve also ordered some inline bacterial filters for it. This should “fix” this machine until (and if) I receive a new replacement from Phillips. You are a life saver my friend! Thank you.
@@CPAPReviews Thank you sir :-) By the way, the foam removal went very well. Would you believe there were NO SCREWS in the top of the plastic motor housing? Not a single one, and there never were any installed! (you can see there were never any threads carved into the plastic housing, it came from the factory like this). I went to the hardware store tonight and purchased 7 small screws to place in the clear plastic housing. Crazy. Makes you wonder wonder about Phillips quality control? But I'm just glad the foam is removed, makes me feel much better about using it.
@@crystlejenson4003 My machine has a small backup battery on the circuit board. If it's still good, then your machine should save all it's settings. I did not loose any settings when I removed the foam. The machine works perfectly, although it may be slightly louder than it was before. I just stuff mine under the bed so I can't hear it!
The video was excellent. We were able to remove the foam, it took us about 2 hours to open it and close it, and the gentleman who made the video ought to be praised and we thank him. We are not hands on people, but it got done. I will not hold my breath for a replacement by Phillips as they have been disgustingly slow in this error by them, and shame on them for not moving quicker. At least the foam has been removed. Hopefully, it did me no harm as it was deteriorating. Thank you again to the gentleman who made this all possible. Harry
Very slow i only got the recall letter today and found this awesome video, my filter was disintegrated and most off it was in the clear plastic housing for the pump
I was looking to get a new machine I went online looking for the same one and doing that it has a recall I’m like wth no one called nor sent me a letter about a recall so I went on RUclips and found this video and let me say it was easy and very much appreciated for your help thank you
Nice video. Very easy process. My "foam" had turned to sludge. In both my CPAP machines. They are very loud now to the point I don't know if I can use them.
Well aren't you just a right Legend. From the looks of your channel this seems like it was some light work for you and I probably could have awkwardly muddled my way through figuring this out but ....... looks like I won't have to now will I! Thanks my friend
Thanks for the video. Even posted it on my FB page for others to see. I bought my machine (pre-recall) refurbished to mainly take when traveling. That way if something happened to it, no big loss. When I tore into it. Pad was new and the remanufacturers had done a great job of cleaning the inside. Anyway, after the Foamectomy, got into the settings and got CFlex + to work and changed air settings to my current. I can take it traveling with me once again. Get ready for Foamgate 2.0 In case you haven't heard the FDA is scrutinizing the new foam filter because it failed a test. They are not saying which test. But from the sounds of things the FDA is not pleased.
I removed the foam from my System One successfully after watching Nicco’s excellent video. Thanks for all the effort, skill, creativity and humor. My CPAP seems to be working fine without the foam. At least now I can pursue getting a new machine without breathing in volatile organic carcinogens or going without a CPAP in the meantime. A couple comments: I live in Maryland in the USA and I got my CPAP in2015. My machine has an additional 2-wire cable connection to the PC board that is not seen in Nicco’s. It connects to a small cylindrical component in the bottom of the machine over an open hole in the bottom of the case, function unknown. I had a bit more trouble getting the machine back together as a result but I did get it all back in right. If you have this additional cable, carefully note the routing of the cable when dis
-assembling the machine so you can put it back together the same way. Also, the Torx bits I needed were labelled T10 and T15, not T3 and T5. I ordered a new screwdriver set with a T3 and T5
Torx bits, which are really tiny, but I could have used the T10 and T15 bits in the set I already had. Not a big deal though, the new set is nice to have. Perhaps Aussie and US Torx bit standards are different. Finally I am keeping the old foam in case I need to reinstall it to get a replacement machine from Philips. I hope this helps someone else, and thanks for the awesome videos.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this. We're going to do this to my backup machine and your demo is really clear and helpful. Thank goodness for folks like you who generously share their expertise, especially when Philips is not being very forthcoming with info.
Great video and was easy to do, I went further and took apart the blower to as it was insanely dusty and now my machine looks brand new. Saved the foam in a sandwich bag in the event I need to put it back if Philips ever sends me a new one Cheers
Thanks so much for this tutoriaI! I finally did it. What took you 10 minutes, though, took me hours. Simple things like not getting the motor casing snapped down tight enough and stripping a screw head. But it's done. I feel better knowing the foam was still in great shape. So maybe nine years of use won't kill me after all. I was surprised that it still runs as quietly as it ever did. One point, though, and I bring it up only because I shopped three stores to find a tool kit with the T-3 and T-5 torx bits. Then it turned out those are way too small. What I ended up needing were T-8 and T-15.
Thank you so much! My hubby and I both have System One machines and were worried about the length of time it would take for them to remove the foam. So relieved to have it out. You saved us thousands of dollars!
Hi there, i'm happy to help however i would much prefer you change brands when you can especially since those system ones are pretty old now. Kind regards Nick
I have changed the filters, tubing, power and masks many times but having seen how the unit itself works now I’m not sure what the newer ones add. I have less than 1 AHI.
Thanks so much !! I removed the foam from my remstar pro c flex following your video and now I can park my dreamstation till Philip’s gets there act together,you’ve been a great help.
Hi Rachel, you're welcome. Please consider changing manufacturers when you can. Philips doesn't deserve to have people using their equipment. Thank you
Thank you for this, I wasn't even aware of a recall until today ! I have a system one and removed the foam, will see how loud it gets. I have had this unit over 10 years, insurance will cover a replacement but will have to call my Dr to track down my prescription to order a new machine.
I used the SystemOne ASV model for 5+ years before getting the Dreamstation. I have to get a chest X-ray now. Thanks Philips! I have the Resmed 10 now.
Thanks for the video, I did this last week and was able to not take the impeller apart. You can move the plastic clips enough with the credit cards and pull the pump and side plate up at the same time. Takes a little jiggling to get it out and back in. I have two system ones, one was ok but the older one had a foam piece that basically disintegrated in my hands into a paste, like squeezing Cotten candy into a clump. It was very greasy and I had to wipe it off the bottom. Good luck!
Thank you very much! Accurate and easy to follow instructions. Took much longer than 10 minutes though. If you're going to all that work, you might as well thoroughly clean everything!
Hey Brandon, yeah that's a good idea. In all honestly it's only for those who are desperate. You should all be really trying to move away from using philips gear altogether. Cheers
Thanks for the guide! Worked great on my bipap. While I had mine disassembled I took the opportunity to blast everything with compressed air. There was a surprising amount of black powder laying at the bottom where the foam was. Inside the motor housing was clean, but lifted the plastic and blasted it anyway..
Thank you for this video I slept very well last night not having to worry about the foam breaking down and some how having to breath it in while sleeping. Surprisingly having the foam abatement removed the unit was just a little louder. After six years with my System One minus the humidifier/warmer which I removed I don’t use this. To bad Phillips doesn’t mention during this recall how easy it is to remove the foam.
Glad I had my backup unit to follow your tutelage Master Jedi. Cleaned it up with a soft brush and alcohol wipes. Thanks for this awesome video. Now I won't have to wait 12 mos for whatever they have planned.
Thanks for showing how to get to the foam. I used the So Clean ozone machine for cleaning. Once I got down to where the foam was suppose to be, all I found was a black sticky tar covering the bottom. I had to put on latex gloves so it wouldn't stick to my fingers. It took me about an hour to clean it out with rubbing alcohol and Q-Tips. I put all the garbage I pulled out of the machine and put it in a sealed plastic bag and will send it back with machine. Of course as they stated in their recall letter it'll take up to a year from now for any action. People worried about warranty issues put that aside if you value your health. Just document what you did and found and save the evidence.
On some of your videos you've speculated that it might take Phillips Respironics a year or more to do its recall. My wife's Dreamstation was involved in the recall. We learned about the recall (from you, actually) 2 days after she started using the Dreamstation. Today, Sept 3, 2021, we received a Dreamstation 2 and shipping documents instructing us to ship back the Dreamstation 1 unit. Not the greatest, as far as time is concerned, but still a great deal better than a year.
I removed the foam from my philips cpap machine. As for my machine the foam was in like new condition with no deterioration. With the foam gone the machine was not any noisier. Thanks for your video. It was a big help...and nobody was injured. Haha
thank you for the guide. the method worked flawlessly. however; after doing it on both my machines, they now sound like 747s at takeoff. I guess I'll have to take them apart again and see if something isn't right. But it appeared to be so. thanks again.
Thanks for the refresher. I bought my unit used, and it was badly contaminated by cigarette smoke, so I’d already had it 100% disassembled for a thorough cleaning and disinfection years ago, but I’d forgotten where all the foam bits were. Cheers.
This is a great guide, and I followed it without issue; however, I wanted to call out one observation if you choose to remove the insulation: the filter is essentially no longer effective. Let me explain. After removing the defective insulation, I noticed that my white rectangular air filter no longer got dirty. I used to have to change the white rectangular air filter every week, and I could tell when it got dirty. After re-disassembling the unit, I found why. When the defective insulation is removed, it not only makes the unit louder, but it no longer provides a critical sealing surface along the entire bottom side of the air pump motor casing. Without that seal, the air pump inlet can draw in air from several directions, and it is not restricted to just drawing air through the air filter. Another clue that this was happening was when I put my thumb over the air inlet without insulation or the filter in place. It had no effect on the air pump. I couldn't hear the air pump "strain" when I blocked the inlet. And, along all of the case seams, like the plate on the left outside of the unit, I could see where dirt was collecting at the seam, because air was being drawn by the pump through the seam. So, it makes sense now why my air filter wasn't getting dirty anymore. Anyways, I hope this help you all at least be aware of what happens when you remove the insulation. I'm going to wrap my insulation in some plastic and put it back in place. That way, if it degrades, the insulation foam will be trapped in plastic, and the insulation piece will still provide the necessary seal along the bottom of the air pump motor casing.
Quick update. I ended up wrapping the defective foam insulation with Glad® Press'n Seal® Plastic Food Wrap. It's a food grade plastic, really easy to work with, lightly sticky, but not too sticky, and will mostly stick to itself. After sealing the defective foam insulation, and putting the wrapped foam back into the unit, I was able to reassemble and test. Placing my thumb over the inlet to the air pump, with the filter removed, I could immediately hear the pump "strain" since the inlet was now restricted! I keep my CPAP very clean, but have noticed lately that it seems like my sinuses are always stuffed up. I'll bet that all the dust bypassing the filter was the culprit! I'll update again in a week to let you know what the air filter looks like. ;)
Hi Charles, thank you. Your observation is however incorrect as the foam has no filtration purposes (purely sound abatement) and also it's position with regards to the air pathway is well passed the initial filtration provided by the cpap filter. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews A couple things. First, perhaps my message wasn't clear, but I haven't claimed that the foam provides filtration. It certainly does provide sound absorbing/abatement. And, it creates a "seal" for the inlet to the air pump. Second, if you look at the foam, you can see that it has impressions around it. A line around its perimeter, specifically on the side that is against the bottom of the clear plastic air pump housing. That's what forms a seal, completing the inlet air channel, forcing air to be drawn through the filter. Without it in place, the small rectangular filter is ineffective. Let me see if I can make a video showing exactly what I'm talking about. It may have to wait until February.
My husband and I so appreciate your extremely well done video, Nick. His System One got destroyed when my cat dumped a cup of coffee in it! Anyway, after months of squabbling with the Pulmonary people and the medical supply company, I finally found a System One online and it arrived today in perfect working order. The price was more than reasonable. His question is: "how does that foam underneath the motor end up getting into the airstream?" It hardly makes any sense. Thanks again, Nick.
my foam was disintegrated and all in the clear plastic housing for the pump for months i had been getting foam in my mouth, cpap mask and coughing up bits off it. I thought it was coming from the outer dust filter foam so was buying a 2 pack from local cpap shop for $15 every 2 weeks and changing them weekly. I also thought after one of my cats knocked the cpap machine off my chest off draws one off the dust filters may have been chewed up and sucked in the hole
thank you so much for this!! my machine was blowing out little black particles and i had no idea what it was until i found this!! im taking out the damn foam gate!! THANK YOU!!!
Hey there! So i do agree about the off gasing of the foam inside. What could a guy use in the small piece of foam on the inlet filter side just in case it is the same kind of foam??
Well I did the dirty deed, opened up my System One, removed the offending sound deadening foam from under the electric motor, cleaning the insides with a water colour paint brush and some tissues. You said, what could go wrong - well after forgetting to connect the power cord, then closing it all up, I had to go back, pull it apart again, put the power cord in place and close it up again - in the rush to close it up again I threaded one of the 6-7 small screws sealing up the clear plastic cover over the motor, so hopefully the other screws keep it clamped up enough not to leak any unnecessary air. Plugged it in and it worked fine! So go easy on tensioning the small 6-7 screws around the clear plastic motor surround. *** OK, so what struck me about doing this job was, how unbelievably stupid was Philips for putting this sound quietening foam under the motor and leave it exposed to the air coming in from the filter opening and the incoming air running literally over the top of the foam before it gets sucked up into the motor fan for pumping into your mask hose. Did they not for one moment think that any foam eventually degrades??? Did they not even think to even at basics just put a plastic cover over this foam to have the air blow over plastic rather than foam totally exposed to the incoming air. This, is Philips folks, a multi-national giant of a corporation with access to all kinds of technical advice and tests and it is designed to have the air you are breathing blow over this foam layer??? To think I was sucking on this risky crap for over 4 years! Further, after doing this foam removal I thought how much of any foam bits are still inside the actual motor (as opposed to underneath the motor). So I turned the cpap machine on and let the air blow a out of the exit pipe connector with my hand over the pipe air exit slightly, checking the flow (so the machine does not rev to high burning out any bearings) to perhaps flush out any foam particles left
Congratulations! Yeah it's often like that the first time you take anything apart. Yeah obviously in hindsight it was a silly decision. The DS1 foam is worse though, it's directly in the line with the turbine intake. The air basically runs through it to get to the turbine. I'm going to take it apart and show people soon. Good work with the thorough clean and also the air flush :-). Nick
Hello Nick, thank you so much for this video guide. I was wondering, it seems that the foam is completely outside of the motor sealed enclosure. I am confused, how could any particles from that foam get inhaled then? I just couldn't see how the disintegrated foam particle could get inside? Did I miss something?
@@CPAPReviews Sorry for my misunderstanding and for asking too quick. After I removed the foam in mine, I can see that the air intake pathway is through the foam. Btw, is the airflow filter (rectangle) made from a safe material?
Thanks for all the info and instructions here. I removed my foam just now. I have been having issues and have been dealing with the foam particles in my mask for years and had no idea. I hope I don’t have permanent damage as a result. Also, I imagine using so clean is certainly not an issue now that the foam is gone correct?
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Only got a recall letter today October 2022 found this helpful video and my foam was disintegrated and all in the clear chamber the pump was in for a few months i had been waking up with the foam on my teeth and in cpap mask. I have had irritated throat eyes and nose for about 8 months that my dr had told me was probably a side effect of having covid. Cant believe it took Philips this long to notify me i had been breathing in and getting this toxic crap in my body for months before they even notified me.
Same process for BiPap mate?
T10 - (7) motor screws
T15 - (2) outer case screws
T20 - (1) circuit board screw
Thanks, brother !
Nice one brother
I love how Philips considers the System One machine I have end of life, because it's older than 5 years. However, it only has 2200 hours on the blower, because I stopped using that machine long ago. At least daily. Thank goodness for that. I do, however, use that machine as a camping/power outage machine because of its native 12v power need. (Batteries work very well with it because the power doesn't have to be ramped up to 24v or 120v which maximizes the battery time). The good news is that my foam looked good. The better news, there is now no foam in the machine to harm me-- So I will continue to use it, minus the humidifier section for camping and power outages.
Same here, and for travel.
RUclips has something for everything! Thanks for being my sherpa!
Reassembly note: Rather than going through reverse contortions putting back plate on and getting the fitting back into the impeller housing, just reassemble the whole thing outside the case and drop it back in. The same problems don't exist as with disassembly (that is, the back plate not allowing the tabs to release). Putting the whole thing in as a unit pops in with a satisfying snap. Thanks again!
Uncle Nicky, I followed your video and was able to remove the foam pad from my series 60 machine. Thank goodness the foam had not disintegrated but when I pulled it out it was sticky and crumbled in my fingertips. I wiped all the parts clean from dust and reassembled it perfectly. I have so much more peace of mind now that the foam is gone. My machine is old but still works well. Whether I receive a replacement after registering who knows. I feel fortunate my unit didn’t break down like some others I’ve read about. Thanks again for your care and knowledge
You’re welcome
I will sleep better tonight because of your Nick!!! Bless you!! It took me about an hour to take it all apart and clean it and remove the "Death Foam"!! plugged it in and it actually works no screws left over either lol I also had to fix the button plastic was cracked super glue fixed that... Your a life saver Nick... I will be fixing others machines now as there is a supply chain issue with the Phillips cpap units can't get them on back order from CHINA of course when are Americans going to learn we need to manufacture here in USA...Thanks Brother!!!
My friend, I was able to complete the whole process in 15 minutes. My foam is dusty but still looks to be fully intact which was somewhat of a relief. I can't thank you enough for this assistance. Whether psychosomatic or not, I slept incredibly well last night for the first time in a long time. This is my backup unit to my Dreamstation, and the DS has never been as good as this System One. I won't be going back to Philips after this clusterfuck, but I still have a fondness for this System One unit that I used for 5 years. Hopefully it didn't poison me. Here's wishing that everyone here including me have escaped the grim possible health concerns. Philips, you'd best get ready. You won't get away from accountability on this one.
hahaha 'clusterfuck' i think that is the perfect word to describe the situation. Thanks for making me laugh and you're welcome ;-). I certainly won't be recommending any Philips equipment to my subscribers. Nick
Did it reset the settings when you disassembled?
@@crystlejenson4003 Mine did not.
Why did you not like the Dream Station as much as System One? I used System One for seven years; my Mom was supplied a Dream Station. I looked at her unit and had just switched over to ResMed, and I liked my ResMed AirSense 10 better. The Dream Station looked kind of cheap, only a b/w display, and didn't have as many options, like humidification level. I liked the ResMed nasal pillow mask better, too.
Is it me, or is the foam in this unit outside the chamber?
Thank you for this video. I was super uncomfortable continuing to use my Dreamstation after hearing about the recall. But I need it. Without it my brain refuses to switch off and go to sleep. I went through 3 horrendous years of chronic insomnia till I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. Six weeks with my device cured that. Now I cannot sleep without it. It’s like the moment put it on my brain knows ‘it’s time to sleep.’ So my husband followed your instructions and successfully removed the foam with minimal damage to device. I can now continue to use it. You cannot appreciate how much I am grateful to you for taking us through these steps.
Heard from Respironics today:
“Philips Respironics System One, 60 Series Remediation
We’re reaching out because you registered a System One, 60 Series CPAP and BiPAP devices in response to the Philips Respironics voluntary recall of CPAP, BiPAP and mechanical ventilator devices.
One of the more complex aspects of the recall has been creating remediation options for older devices, such as the System One. These devices are past their warranty and useful life, which is typically 5 years. In the US, we had already stopped manufacturing the System One, 60 series devices prior to the voluntary recall given that they were discontinued in 2017.
Because these units are no longer part of our supply chain, it has created unique challenges in inventory, sourcing the parts needed for repair and remotely extracting the prescription device settings needed to supply a replacement device. For all of these reasons, we have been working to find alternative remediation options for System One patients.
We cannot offer System One patients a new or repaired version of their current product. We understand this may be frustrating, which is why we’re providing the following two options.
You must select one of the following two options, there is no default option and in the absence of your selection, no action can be taken. Please sign into the Patient Portal to select your preference:
OPTION 1 - Financial payment for return of affected units: Removing affected products from use is an important part of our remediation program. We also know many patients have waited for some time for a solution. Therefore, we are offering financial payments to patients of $50 per System One, 60 Series device returned to us. The payment that we are offering is to help ensure affected units are no longer in use. It will be paid via check when we receive your System One, 60 Series device. If your mailing address has changed since you have registered your device, or you would like to make your election over the phone, please call 877-907-7508. Please note return instructions will be included in the Patient Portal once you select this option.
OPTION 2 - Continue remediation pathway to receive a replacement device: You will need to provide a current prescription. You may also have the option to provide additional information that will help us prioritize delivery based on need. If you elect to remain in the remediation pathway, you must make the selection in the Patient Portal, which will trigger a Philips Respironics team member to call you about obtaining your prescription through your doctor. Calls for patients without prescriptions is ongoing and is expected to last through the completion of the voluntary recall. If your shipping address has changed since you have registered your device, or you would like to make your election over the phone, please call 877-907-7508.
Regardless of which option you select, we encourage you to consult with your physician about options for a new device to ensure continuity of care. Since your physician knows your medical history, they are most qualified to discuss options for therapy. You may also consider checking with your insurance provider whether you are eligible for reimbursement for a new device. Most insurance plans provide reimbursement every five years.”
saved me a grand and i can sleep tonight, too. You're great, man. Oh and ironically I fired up the unit having removed the foam and I can't tell that it's any louder at all.
Just did my System One machine. It is now safe for me and mankind again.Thanks for your quick and easy instructions.
I just completed this thanks to your guidance. Although I am an engineer, I still need guidance, especially to avoid breaking little plastic tabs and stuff like that! My foam is visually in perfect condition, no signs of degradation. It’s my understanding that it is only when the machines are disinfected using ozone, and maybe a few other conditions that evidently don’t apply to me, that the foam degrades. It’s unfortunate that Phillips are having to go through a multi hundred million dollar recall campaign when I believe these problems could’ve been sorted out on a local scale using the correct parts and some trustworthy and competent health equipment suppliers to swap out the foam.
Thank you so much for the instructions to remove the dreaded foam, all done whilst watching the vid, and actually a good learning curve and a chance to clean a fair bit of dust and grime after 10 years service, stay safe and keep doing what your doing.
I use this old CPAP at my parents’ house so I don’t have to haul my new one every time. I followed these instructions to remove the foam and it worked perfectly! Not exactly “easy” if you have no experience with electronics, but it was simple enough. The hardest part was getting the connector plug to the humidifier back in place, but it worked after some fiddling. If 1 is easy and 5 is difficult, I’d say this is about a 2 with the right tools.
Great Tutorial Man, I removed the foam from my Father's Cpap almost 3 months ago after watching your Video
The sound is not that much louder. I am not able to express but the video came as a blessing for us.
Keep up the good work dude
Well thank you, that was a fun and informative video. Husband and I had dug our old System Ones out of the closet while pondering what to do about the Dream Station recall situation, only to find out that both of them were also under recall. After watching your video, he decided to go ahead and surgically open them. His machine had severely degraded foam, it was even stuck to the bottom of the casing. Mine was in pretty decent shape. We removed the foam and cleaned them up. I'm going to try mine out tonight. I'd been continuing to use the Dream Station until now, as I can't go without, and haven't found available options while I'm waiting. It is sad to think I've been breathing whatever bad stuff for about 10 years, as I've had defective Respironics machines a couple times and they've been switched out by my DME provider. Hadn't noticed any problems until I started using the DS1 in 2017, when I began having sinus congestion and later heart issues. But we will probably never know for sure if there is any correlation. Anyway, thanks for the clear and concise video, and good luck to all of us! Oh, btw, we were not influenced to do this because of your video.
Glad you enjoyed it and i was able to help. Best wishes for the future. Nicko
Thank you so much for this information! I have learned a lot about my health problems from being aware of this recall and watching your videos. I have found out why the headaches were appearing and other health issues. My CPAP is too old for the actual replacement and it made me aware that the company that supplied it, supplied an old CPAP machine because we were naïve. They charged us for loads of stuff we didn't need. Our Dr. kept writing them prescriptions. Our monthly bill was large. You are giving people a shortcut to understanding what is going on. I even went to clinic and was asking about my crap CPAP and I was told we were stuck with it. Well, my husband took them apart today and everything they say is going on with the foam is. I am of course waiting for the provider to come through. In the meantime I have a clean CPAP because you are helping people. My husband found a lot of foam in the turbine housing. The dishonest providers are a problem too. Again, Thank you!!!
I just opened mine and have the same problem... What's keeping me alive is also getting me sick
Oh my gosh!! Thank you SO much!! I barely slept last night realizing the actual dangers. I’m going to have my husband fix the issue and bought the set from your Amazon link. Bless you! I’ll actually be able to sleep good knowing it’s out of there. You’re doing gods work. Thank you so so so much!! Peace of mind!
Wonderful Video! The foam in the bottom of my System One machine was 'wet' and it started to tear apart as I removed it from the bottom of the case. After I removed it, I cleaned that area with 91% IPA. My unit has 7 screws in the pump body, and I found it much easier to replace the pump body with 3 of its screws in place and tightened... it easily snapped into to place in the case bottom. Once the pump body was locked in place in the case bottom, (with its plastic tabs securing the lower portion of the pump housing), I removed the three screws and was able to easily install the side panel with the tube, afterward following your reassembly instructions. I am in the United States, and my unit's circuit board had no wire with a green pin socket.
I thought I lost the green pin socket after reassembly. Disassembled again and saw there was no way it was ever there or that I misplaced it.
Thank you for posting this video. I totally need CPAP because of a heart condition. I have a newer machine, but I rely on my old System One for camping and travel in my RV as I have a converter for it which allows me to power it on a 12-volt battery pack, and/or my RV camper battery. Your instructions were spot-on. I never would have attempted to remove the foam except for your very clear instructions which gave me the confidence to proceed. Super easy after watching your video. Thank You!!
Nick! My man! Brother from another mother hahaha. You've made me very happy my friend. When ever i do one of these vids i always imagine there's someone out there in the big wide world who it's made for and this one was for you. God bless, God speed and i wish i was cruising around in that RV with you! Lots love, your best mate from Melbourne, Australia. Nicko
I took the foam out just 10 minutes ago. The foam was caught in the motor and was just falling apart. Foam bits were everywhere! It took me longer to clean than take apart. Thank you!
Did you use a SoClean or SoClean2 machine with your CPAP?
@@mulligan-77 No, not at any of them. I took the foam out of an old one because insurance hasn't fully paid for the Dreamstation, yet.. Both had large foam bits choking me and had black flecks in the water chamber.
You know you've done quality work when you have a few spare screws left at the end of any job! Nicely done just the same.
Iv always had a few screws loose brother 😂.
Ok, I just found out about the recall. I also found out that my morning congestion and cough may have been caused by this with my recent use of the Dreamstation 2. I had "this" old machine laying around as a travel machine. My Dreamstation 2 was my mainstay cpap provided by my healthcare provider. I pulled "this" old machine apart to find the foam deteriorated and falling apart. Excellent instructions by the way.. :) Removed foam, and did a thorough cleaning everywhere. Thank you so much for this video. I can have a sound piece of mind and a relaxed sleep now while I deal with this whole recall thing. Noise increase was not noticeable.
This foam is soft as butter. Have cleaned the machine with household alcohol. The alcohol dissolves the small foam residues that sit in the machine and in the engine's blower system. Hope the engine survives the cleaning in alcohol. My extra machine had no problems with this foam. Thanks for the video.
This one didn't have a little green cable, and I didn't notice it, until I got it back together and noticed the missing cable!!
Took it all apart again, still no green cable.
Got the old toxic filter out, (bagged it) cleaned everything up and my wife is back on her machine again! Sounds the same. The filter didn't look too bad. It seemed to only slightly degraded for a 7 year old filter. I expected to see it crumbling.
Thanks for helping me Void warranty! :) Great video!
As you said 5 minutes. Mine was 5 years old and almost no dust in there, just some on the foam itself and in the filter slot. No foam degradation. I don’t hear the difference but maybe my hearing is shot. I have some sinus irritation so I thought why not pull the foam, save it to put back in later for what ever reason. If the noise were to be a problem I could always place a noise pad under the machine, or around it. I put mine in the bottom drawer where there’s plenty of space around it and over the top of the drawer. The air is dry around here ( San Diego) so I go through a lot of water usually R/O water. Thank you for the how to.
Thank you very much for sharing this video. Today, I perfomed the removal of foam and cleaning of my Philips CPAP machine successfully.
I finally remediated mine. It took me about 1.5 hours because I ended up with two extra parts. One white rubbery piece attached to inside opposite air filters. That was a head scratcher. It helps greatly to keep pump parts as one unit, something I learned the hard way.
I found about the recall yesterday. No idea there was an issue. Stumbled on it by accident. I followed this video and successfully performed the Foam-ectomy. My foam looked fine but it's out of there anyway. My unit is 14 years old and I was planning on replacing it. Thanks for the clear instructions.
I only just found out too. Mine is about 10 years old. I don't want a different unit. Is it any noisier?
While you are in there you have a great opportunity to deep clean the machine's non electric parts. I noticed the newer generation have very bad foam that crumbles, the older ones used some better foam. I also noticed the motherboard in these has quite a few milspec parts on it and it has a huge input power compliance range of 10.6 to 15 volts. Ran my wife's off a deep cycle battery and a solar panel when we were homeless for a few months. ❤
Got it done. I stopped by the CPAP store and they refused to remove the foam. Took me three tries to get it done as when I pulled out the foam, the soft rubbery piece at the very bottom of the machine popped out and I found it on the floor after I had put the machine back together, then got a wire caught underneath the motor and then the circuit board. So, watch everything carefully. Luckily, my foam, though dirty, seemed in good shape. Machine makes no more noise than it did with the foam. Slept really well with it, so I am very glad I was able to find your video. I signed up months ago for the recall and haven't heard a thing back yet and probably won't for ages to come. Now I have to find my ultrafine filters for the external port to put under the foam filter and I am good.
Great job and video. After seeing your ones about the recall, I contacted our provider on Tuesday and both my wife and I have appointments today to get replacement units. ResMed AirSense 10. Since mine is over 5 years old, I don't think they are going to take it back, so I will use this video to "fix" mine as a backup/camping unit. Thanks for all this great work and research!
Did you get yours replaced? Mine is over 10 years old, talking to Philips on the phone, sounds like they are going to replace it - and escalate the replacement due to particles coming out :(
@@vaxter yes, my wife and I got ours replaced by our provider but we got ResMed units. We got lucky as we contacted our provider almost immediately when the recall started, so they still had ResMed units to swap out with.
Great walkthrough. My brother has one of these he has been using for 10 years and he started getting foam pieces coming out last week. I just took his apart to remove the foam and there are pieces all through it. He is cleaning it now. He registered his device last week for the recall but has not been responded to yet. May be too late or old for them. But great info and videos about this and thanks for the easy-to-follow walkthrough.
Hey, just a heads up everyone. That little rubber bit under the processor board, make sure when you put the CPAP back together, you mount it on the tube under it, then place the board on it - and press on the board where it says PRESS HERE. I didnt do that the first time and left it on the board, so when I remounted it, it got cockeyed and caused my CPAP to not register resistance so that I had constant pressure. Hope that helps. Took me 2 days to figure out my error.
Nice one legend 👍
Thank you for the heads up on that. The first time I did it I didn’t know that. And I wouldn’t even noticed because I use constant pressure.
But you saved me screwing up other peoples machines.
Followed this caveat and it seems to be perfect so far!
Thanks so much! Your reply should be pinned, if it can be.
That was the hardest part for me. Took five tries but finally got it in place.
thank you for the guide.. i did not know about the recall but i have a system one.. and my wife was able to follow the procedure and remove the foam for me... it dose make the cpap noticeable louder but i gave it a try and it may have taken an extra min for me to fall asleep and woke up refreshed my cpap is over 10 years old and still running fine. now i have a reason for my medical insurance to need to replace my cpap but i will have a functional unit until i clear all the red tape and get a new one
Really thought I wouldn’t be able to do this anyway I bought screwdrivers set but needed t5 and t9 not t3 and I have exact same machine just know this guy is a life saver for showing us this information in such detail, looking forward to having a good nights sleep tonight and thank goodness my foam was intact 🙏🏻 still been breathing in fumes no doubt but no particles 🙏🏻 when I opened it up at first I only had three sets of wires to unclip as the green one nearest to the right wasn’t even there but the machine was still working and still is now anyone know why?? I have it serviced every two years and they open it up for servicing and no one noticed this!
Thanks for this. I've been dragging my feet on the recall. I'm gonna stop using my Dreamstation and go back to my old System One for now. It still works with no noticeable degradation in the foam.
Thanks for posting this...I didn't notice any change in the noise level after I removed the foam...I can now rest easy knowing I'm no longer breathing in the crap from it
Hi john, glad i was able to help although i would consider switching brands when you can. Nick
Thank you so much for the step-by-step tutorial. Followed your steps and removed the foam completely, cleaned and disinfected every part in my PR System one. Thanks to you it was very easy to break the unit down and return it back to perfect working condition. My foam was very bad and disintegrated I hope I will be ok after probably breathing this stuff for a while.
Glad i was able to help. Please consider showing your appreciation by becoming a channel member - cpap.review/membership . Thank you :-)
@@CPAPReviews Please help, I have done the foam removal and my unit PR System 1 worked perfectly for one night then stopped and displayed "service required" any idea on how to fix this. Thanks again
Thank you very much for your tutorial. I will get it done tonight can't no longer wait Philip foam replacement part to arrive.
Nice one. Good luck. Nicko
Emboldened by these instructions, I ordered up a new little screwdriver assortment set and set to work on my Phillips Respironics. Just like he said, you need 2 torx bits and the little set I ordered came with these nice little thin plastic triangles that were perfect for pinning the fan housing spring clips out of the way (where he used the credit cards).
Compared to mine, his foam looked perfect! Mine was a disintegrated mess that fell apart with a bit of movement and left a greasy residue behind. I had to scrub with a bottle brush and Dawn dishwashing liquid and hot water to get all of the residue behind.
The device sounds a tiny bit more hollow when running, but really not that much.
I'll be filing for a replacement, but given the long back-log on CPAP devices, I'll literally be sleeping better, knowing that the foam is long gone from my device.
Here's my little screwdriver set that had everything I needed to do the job in about 30 minutes (well, that and my reading glasses): www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08TBWD3TV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
That is an awesome screwdriver set. I got mine from harbor freight....ok but not very many attachments.
Really easy did it in 15 minutes or so....Thanks for the piece of mind knowing the foam has now gone.
Thank you, wish I found this sooner, my foam was entirely deteriorated like powdery and parts were missing. Have had lungs and asthma getting worse since i was 25 i developed an intense cronic cough like trying to clear my airway and lots of phlegm. No idea if this was the culprit but i just never imagined it. Thank you for the video, i am sharing this with everyone i kmow who has a cpap. Bittersweet learning about this all.
Thank you Sir! I successfully removed the foam and there is virtually no difference in the sound level before to after. Of course, I'm a plus 70 year old and according to my sweet wife I cannot hear very well anyway. But, I'll be using my older Resmed machine until I eventually receive my newer replacement to the Philip's model.
Thanks a million! One big worry off my mind now,..I hope all I got from years of the black foam was this infernal asthma, nose spray addiction, and enjoying the wonders of albuterol inhaler. No wonder all these expensive industrial grade Honeywell filters I put in my living room, bed room and at work didn't do anything. All the allergy meds did nothing. No matter what, for the last two years I've had this friggin cough. Ironically, the only time I don't have the cough is at night while using the RemStar,..I always thought it was my 'cough relief' machine!
Anyway, excellent video! Luckily I just happened to have a set of those 'rare' screwdrivers in my toolbox (thanks harbor freight)...
Please don't shut down what is far and away the best Cpap info/advice channel on RUclips from a devoted watcher. Of course I have the very same Cpap machine you've done this demo on and though I have a Resmed S9 Autoset as back up I get far better results with the Respironics system One Auto. My question is how much difference to the noise level does the removal of the foam cause? If it only causes a minor raising of the noise level I think I'll have a crack at removing the foam following your detailed instructions.
Hi Howard, thank you mate, i needed that. I'm really tired though and it's putting a strain on my personal life so i need to have some time away :-). Hope you can understand. Regarding the machine, it was only marginally louder. That foam sits on the base of the motor casing so it only plays a small part in dampening some of the sound. Good to give the insides a good clean out also :-) All the best brother. Nick
Found out about the recall on Saturday. Tried sleeping without it. I had it on by the AM because i wake up so often. Removed the foam today, Sunday. It wasn’t coming apart. It was very dusty. Not surprising as I have used this machine daily for 4.5 years and i sleep next to a fan. But i have been experiencing asthma symptoms the last 6 months. Seemed worse in the morning after waking up. I sometimes need an inhaler after waking up due to inflammation. Removed the foam while waiting for the recall update. I want to see if my symptoms improve with it gone. But i’m gonna to try and swing a new machine if i can. I have no insurance.
Thank you! I was able to remove the foam from my System One, and it looks OK (no particles even when trying to make some). That's a relief!
Nice one mate. Cheers
Great video! Didnt take me too long… but my foam had
almost a damp feeling… and was falling apart… I wonder if this will clear up my asthma that became significantly worse a year ago?
Thanks so much for this video. I had wondered where the foam in my system one was located. I am really happy to find out that the foam is not located inside the air duct unlike the other models where the foam is located inside the airduct and air passes by the foam.
Ookay I was wrong. I just found another video that shows the air travels through the foam and then into the air duct on the system one . That's depressing
Thank you so much I have a Phillips dream station two that I put up last night because of the things I’ve learned from you this video here told me how to take my wife’s dream station one and take foam Out in another video showed me how to change the air pressure setting to mine and I slept with it last night just fine you’re a godsend Grace and peace thank you
Thanks Nick!Successfully removed the "foam-o-death" from my machine.Your tutorial was a life saver.Thanks for looking out for us brother! Your enthusiasm is damn near contagious, glad I found your channel.Thanks again
Hi Keith, i'm very happy for you but please consider changing brands when you can. I don't want any of my viewers using Philips crap. It gives me nightmares. Cheers brother. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Yeah for sure I got a plan in the works, time for this dude to splurge and get himself the Airsense 10 perhaps? And you best believe I'm following your reviews. 😉
Thanks for the tutorial. I had one of these Systems one machines in my garage. It took me awhile to figure out how to separate the heated tank portion from the unit. But once I did I was able to take the filter out and put it back together. The system is a bit noisy now, but I like the sounds of fans at night anyway.
Hey Carlo, well done brother. Yeah it's a little bit noisier but i know there's people who would rather a little bit of noise than nights without therapy. I too like noise! I use a white noise machine every night and i love it. Stops my head from thinking too much. Take care legend. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Haha! Actually I hadn't put the rubber gasket on right over the water tank connection. That was why it was loud. Once I did that unit is super quiet now. Much quieter than the Dreamstation. I am wondering now if that foam ever did anything to the noise element.
Wow, thank you so much for this video. I have one of these machines and have been using a "so clean" activated oxygen device with it for about a year. The motor is now "whining", so I'm sure my machine has this issue. I’ll take the foam out tonight, and I’ve also ordered some inline bacterial filters for it. This should “fix” this machine until (and if) I receive a new replacement from Phillips. You are a life saver my friend! Thank you.
Welcome mate. Glad i was able to help. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Thank you sir :-) By the way, the foam removal went very well. Would you believe there were NO SCREWS in the top of the plastic motor housing? Not a single one, and there never were any installed! (you can see there were never any threads carved into the plastic housing, it came from the factory like this). I went to the hardware store tonight and purchased 7 small screws to place in the clear plastic housing. Crazy. Makes you wonder wonder about Phillips quality control? But I'm just glad the foam is removed, makes me feel much better about using it.
Did it reset your machine settings when you did this?
@@crystlejenson4003 My machine has a small backup battery on the circuit board. If it's still good, then your machine should save all it's settings. I did not loose any settings when I removed the foam. The machine works perfectly, although it may be slightly louder than it was before. I just stuff mine under the bed so I can't hear it!
The video was excellent. We were able to remove the foam, it took us about 2 hours to open it and close it, and the gentleman who made the video ought to be praised and we thank him. We are not hands on people, but it got done. I will not hold my breath for a replacement by Phillips as they have been disgustingly slow in this error by them, and shame on them for not moving quicker. At least the foam has been removed. Hopefully, it did me no harm as it was deteriorating. Thank you again to the gentleman who made this all possible. Harry
Very slow i only got the recall letter today and found this awesome video, my filter was disintegrated and most off it was in the clear plastic housing for the pump
@@micktaylorwolfcreekmechanicalmy pump also have that how to open pump is there any video ?
@@caringiscuring7011 once opened up you can pull the pump out
Thanks, been waiting too long for the recall. Don't want to pay the copays for new sleep study and machine. Pulled the foam out, easy peasy!!
I was looking to get a new machine I went online looking for the same one and doing that it has a recall I’m like wth no one called nor sent me a letter about a recall so I went on RUclips and found this video and let me say it was easy and very much appreciated for your help thank you
Nice video. Very easy process. My "foam" had turned to sludge. In both my CPAP machines. They are very loud now to the point I don't know if I can use them.
My screws were T10 and one T20. Thanks for the video. Successfully removed the foam.
Well aren't you just a right Legend.
From the looks of your channel this seems like it was some light work for you and I probably could have awkwardly muddled my way through figuring this out but ....... looks like I won't have to now will I!
Thanks my friend
Thanks Eric, appreciate the support Nick
Thanks for the video. Even posted it on my FB page for others to see. I bought my machine (pre-recall) refurbished to mainly take when traveling. That way if something happened to it, no big loss. When I tore into it. Pad was new and the remanufacturers had done a great job of cleaning the inside. Anyway, after the Foamectomy, got into the settings and got CFlex + to work and changed air settings to my current. I can take it traveling with me once again.
Get ready for Foamgate 2.0 In case you haven't heard the FDA is scrutinizing the new foam filter because it failed a test. They are not saying which test. But from the sounds of things the FDA is not pleased.
Great video. For those in the states the screwdriver bits are T15 and T10. Thanks again for the video!
Thanks Legend! All the best. Nicko
Thank you, perfect fix! My machine is working perfect minus the death foam and it’s just as quiet.
Well just finished pulling the foam from my machine. It was a great help to have your instructions to make it easy . Thank You from Canada !!!
Thank you Tom, please do try and switch brands when you can. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Why is there still something wrong with my unit ?
I removed the foam from my System One successfully after watching Nicco’s excellent video. Thanks for all the effort, skill, creativity and humor. My CPAP seems to be working fine without the foam. At least now I can pursue getting a new machine without breathing in volatile organic carcinogens or going without a CPAP in the meantime.
A couple comments: I live in Maryland in the USA and I got my CPAP in2015. My machine has an additional 2-wire cable connection to the PC board that is not seen in Nicco’s. It connects to a small cylindrical component in the bottom of the machine over an open hole in the bottom of the case, function unknown. I had a bit more trouble getting the machine back together as a result but I did get it all back in right. If you have this additional cable, carefully note the routing of the cable when dis
-assembling the machine so you can put it back together the same way. Also, the Torx bits I needed were labelled T10 and T15, not T3 and T5. I ordered a new screwdriver set with a T3 and T5
Torx bits, which are really tiny, but I could have used the T10 and T15 bits in the set I already had. Not a big deal though, the new set is nice to have. Perhaps Aussie and US Torx bit standards are different. Finally I am keeping the old foam in case I need to reinstall it to get a replacement machine from Philips. I hope this helps someone else, and thanks for the awesome videos.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this. We're going to do this to my backup machine and your demo is really clear and helpful. Thank goodness for folks like you who generously share their expertise, especially when Philips is not being very forthcoming with info.
Hi Linda, well done! So happy i was able to help. Best wishes for the future. Nick
Great video and was easy to do, I went further and took apart the blower to as it was insanely dusty and now my machine looks brand new.
Saved the foam in a sandwich bag in the event I need to put it back if Philips ever sends me a new one
Cheers
Thanks so much for this tutoriaI! I finally did it. What took you 10 minutes, though, took me hours. Simple things like not getting the motor casing snapped down tight enough and stripping a screw head. But it's done. I feel better knowing the foam was still in great shape. So maybe nine years of use won't kill me after all. I was surprised that it still runs as quietly as it ever did.
One point, though, and I bring it up only because I shopped three stores to find a tool kit with the T-3 and T-5 torx bits. Then it turned out those are way too small. What I ended up needing were T-8 and T-15.
Thank you so much! My hubby and I both have System One machines and were worried about the length of time it would take for them to remove the foam. So relieved to have it out. You saved us thousands of dollars!
Hi there, i'm happy to help however i would much prefer you change brands when you can especially since those system ones are pretty old now. Kind regards
Nick
I have changed the filters, tubing, power and masks many times but having seen how the unit itself works now I’m not sure what the newer ones add. I have less than 1 AHI.
@@CPAPReviews please suggest new CPAP machine that are good
Thanks so much !! I removed the foam from my remstar pro c flex following your video and now I can park my dreamstation till Philip’s gets there act together,you’ve been a great help.
Hi Rachel, you're welcome. Please consider changing manufacturers when you can. Philips doesn't deserve to have people using their equipment. Thank you
Thank you for this, I wasn't even aware of a recall until today ! I have a system one and removed the foam, will see how loud it gets. I have had this unit over 10 years, insurance will cover a replacement but will have to call my Dr to track down my prescription to order a new machine.
What did your foam look like after 10 years? was it intact?
@@mgarozzo11 mine was intact, never used ozone
I used the SystemOne ASV model for 5+ years before getting the Dreamstation. I have to get a chest X-ray now. Thanks Philips!
I have the Resmed 10 now.
Thanks for the video, I did this last week and was able to not take the impeller apart. You can move the plastic clips enough with the credit cards and pull the pump and side plate up at the same time. Takes a little jiggling to get it out and back in. I have two system ones, one was ok but the older one had a foam piece that basically disintegrated in my hands into a paste, like squeezing Cotten candy into a clump. It was very greasy and I had to wipe it off the bottom. Good luck!
Hi Mike well done! Yeah it's a little tricky. Man that's not good news hearing about your foam! Glad you were able to remove it. Nick
Thank you very much! Accurate and easy to follow instructions. Took much longer than 10 minutes though. If you're going to all that work, you might as well thoroughly clean everything!
Hey Brandon, yeah that's a good idea. In all honestly it's only for those who are desperate. You should all be really trying to move away from using philips gear altogether. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews, sorry, please let me clarify! The video was phenomenal! Simple and easy to follow. Thank you very much.
Thanks for the guide! Worked great on my bipap. While I had mine disassembled I took the opportunity to blast everything with compressed air. There was a surprising amount of black powder laying at the bottom where the foam was. Inside the motor housing was clean, but lifted the plastic and blasted it anyway..
Hi, there my friend. I would like to know if after removing the foam from the machine, is it safe to use the machine again without worry?
Thank you for this video I slept very well last night not having to worry about the foam breaking down and some how having to breath it in while sleeping. Surprisingly having the foam abatement removed the unit was just a little louder. After six years with my System One minus the humidifier/warmer which I removed I don’t use this. To bad Phillips doesn’t mention during this recall how easy it is to remove the foam.
Glad I had my backup unit to follow your tutelage Master Jedi. Cleaned it up with a soft brush and alcohol wipes. Thanks for this awesome video. Now I won't have to wait 12 mos for whatever they have planned.
Thanks for showing how to get to the foam. I used the So Clean ozone machine for cleaning. Once I got down to where the foam was suppose to be, all I found was a black sticky tar covering the bottom. I had to put on latex gloves so it wouldn't stick to my fingers. It took me about an hour to clean it out with rubbing alcohol and Q-Tips. I put all the garbage I pulled out of the machine and put it in a sealed plastic bag and will send it back with machine. Of course as they stated in their recall letter it'll take up to a year from now for any action. People worried about warranty issues put that aside if you value your health. Just document what you did and found and save the evidence.
That sounds awful, sorry to hear :( ozone cleaners really made it a lot worse
Thanks a lot dude, your explanation makes me sleep more and more better. God bless you and your family.
That's fantastic, i really appreciate that. Bets wishes. Nicko
On some of your videos you've speculated that it might take Phillips Respironics a year or more to do its recall. My wife's Dreamstation was involved in the recall. We learned about the recall (from you, actually) 2 days after she started using the Dreamstation. Today, Sept 3, 2021, we received a Dreamstation 2 and shipping documents instructing us to ship back the Dreamstation 1 unit. Not the greatest, as far as time is concerned, but still a great deal better than a year.
I removed the foam from my philips cpap machine. As for my machine the foam was in like new condition with no deterioration. With the foam gone the machine was not any noisier. Thanks for your video. It was a big help...and nobody was injured. Haha
Thanks for this. I noticed though, there a slight whirling sound after removing the foam.
thank you for the guide. the method worked flawlessly.
however; after doing it on both my machines, they now sound like 747s at takeoff. I guess I'll have to take them apart again and see if something isn't right. But it appeared to be so.
thanks again.
Thanks I now understand what the problem is, how noisy is it now without the foam ?
Just de-toxed my System One by not trying this at home…thank you. A year is a long time to wait for a good night’s sleep.
Haha, got a get new mate, How anyone could sleep with a Philips beside the bed is beyond me. Would give me nightmares. Good luck. Nick
Thanks for the refresher. I bought my unit used, and it was badly contaminated by cigarette smoke, so I’d already had it 100% disassembled for a thorough cleaning and disinfection years ago, but I’d forgotten where all the foam bits were. Cheers.
This is a great guide, and I followed it without issue; however, I wanted to call out one observation if you choose to remove the insulation: the filter is essentially no longer effective. Let me explain. After removing the defective insulation, I noticed that my white rectangular air filter no longer got dirty. I used to have to change the white rectangular air filter every week, and I could tell when it got dirty.
After re-disassembling the unit, I found why. When the defective insulation is removed, it not only makes the unit louder, but it no longer provides a critical sealing surface along the entire bottom side of the air pump motor casing. Without that seal, the air pump inlet can draw in air from several directions, and it is not restricted to just drawing air through the air filter. Another clue that this was happening was when I put my thumb over the air inlet without insulation or the filter in place. It had no effect on the air pump. I couldn't hear the air pump "strain" when I blocked the inlet. And, along all of the case seams, like the plate on the left outside of the unit, I could see where dirt was collecting at the seam, because air was being drawn by the pump through the seam. So, it makes sense now why my air filter wasn't getting dirty anymore.
Anyways, I hope this help you all at least be aware of what happens when you remove the insulation. I'm going to wrap my insulation in some plastic and put it back in place. That way, if it degrades, the insulation foam will be trapped in plastic, and the insulation piece will still provide the necessary seal along the bottom of the air pump motor casing.
Quick update. I ended up wrapping the defective foam insulation with Glad® Press'n Seal® Plastic Food Wrap. It's a food grade plastic, really easy to work with, lightly sticky, but not too sticky, and will mostly stick to itself.
After sealing the defective foam insulation, and putting the wrapped foam back into the unit, I was able to reassemble and test.
Placing my thumb over the inlet to the air pump, with the filter removed, I could immediately hear the pump "strain" since the inlet was now restricted!
I keep my CPAP very clean, but have noticed lately that it seems like my sinuses are always stuffed up. I'll bet that all the dust bypassing the filter was the culprit!
I'll update again in a week to let you know what the air filter looks like. ;)
Hi Charles, thank you. Your observation is however incorrect as the foam has no filtration purposes (purely sound abatement) and also it's position with regards to the air pathway is well passed the initial filtration provided by the cpap filter. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews A couple things. First, perhaps my message wasn't clear, but I haven't claimed that the foam provides filtration. It certainly does provide sound absorbing/abatement. And, it creates a "seal" for the inlet to the air pump.
Second, if you look at the foam, you can see that it has impressions around it. A line around its perimeter, specifically on the side that is against the bottom of the clear plastic air pump housing. That's what forms a seal, completing the inlet air channel, forcing air to be drawn through the filter. Without it in place, the small rectangular filter is ineffective.
Let me see if I can make a video showing exactly what I'm talking about. It may have to wait until February.
@@CPAPReviews I have gone ahead and made a video. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/oMCd-cKGA9o/видео.html
Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
Thank you brother ! I DID IT!! I had stopped using my cpap my BP was up .your video was great idea and easy to follow...sleep well 😁
Great stuff legend. Cheers
My husband and I so appreciate your extremely well done video, Nick. His System One got destroyed when my cat dumped a cup of coffee in it! Anyway, after months of squabbling with the Pulmonary people and the medical supply company, I finally found a System One online and it arrived today in perfect working order. The price was more than reasonable. His question is: "how does that foam underneath the motor end up getting into the airstream?" It hardly makes any sense. Thanks again, Nick.
my foam was disintegrated and all in the clear plastic housing for the pump for months i had been getting foam in my mouth, cpap mask and coughing up bits off it. I thought it was coming from the outer dust filter foam so was buying a 2 pack from local cpap shop for $15 every 2 weeks and changing them weekly. I also thought after one of my cats knocked the cpap machine off my chest off draws one off the dust filters may have been chewed up and sucked in the hole
Great explanation of how to get foam out , disassemble and reassemble. Thank you very much ! I probably would of destroyed it taking it apart . 👍👍👍
thank you so much for this!! my machine was blowing out little black particles and i had no idea what it was until i found this!! im taking out the damn foam gate!! THANK YOU!!!
Thats brilliant hey i wonder if you can vaccum the particles out through the hole on the side of the machine
All of your vids are great but this one directly applied to me and helped immensely, Thank You!
That's great to hear friend. Please try and move to a different brand if/when you can. Best wishes. Nick
Hey there! So i do agree about the off gasing of the foam inside. What could a guy use in the small piece of foam on the inlet filter side just in case it is the same kind of foam??
Well I did the dirty deed, opened up my System One, removed the offending sound deadening foam from under the electric motor, cleaning the insides with a water colour paint brush and some tissues. You said, what could go wrong - well after forgetting to connect the power cord, then closing it all up, I had to go back, pull it apart again, put the power cord in place and close it up again - in the rush to close it up again I threaded one of the 6-7 small screws sealing up the clear plastic cover over the motor, so hopefully the other screws keep it clamped up enough not to leak any unnecessary air. Plugged it in and it worked fine! So go easy on tensioning the small 6-7 screws around the clear plastic motor surround.
*** OK, so what struck me about doing this job was, how unbelievably stupid was Philips for putting this sound quietening foam under the motor and leave it exposed to the air coming in from the filter opening and the incoming air running literally over the top of the foam before it gets sucked up into the motor fan for pumping into your mask hose. Did they not for one moment think that any foam eventually degrades??? Did they not even think to even at basics just put a plastic cover over this foam to have the air blow over plastic rather than foam totally exposed to the incoming air. This, is Philips folks, a multi-national giant of a corporation with access to all kinds of technical advice and tests and it is designed to have the air you are breathing blow over this foam layer??? To think I was sucking on this risky crap for over 4 years!
Further, after doing this foam removal I thought how much of any foam bits are still inside the actual motor (as opposed to underneath the motor). So I turned the cpap machine on and let the air blow a out of the exit pipe connector with my hand over the pipe air exit slightly, checking the flow (so the machine does not rev to high burning out any bearings) to perhaps flush out any foam particles left
Congratulations! Yeah it's often like that the first time you take anything apart. Yeah obviously in hindsight it was a silly decision. The DS1 foam is worse though, it's directly in the line with the turbine intake. The air basically runs through it to get to the turbine. I'm going to take it apart and show people soon. Good work with the thorough clean and also the air flush :-). Nick
It would be silly to have foam then cover it with plastic. May as well just not have the foam if you are gonna do that.
@@pdubb5807 the insulation would still be there to quieten the motor noise
Just removed my Foam and I feel a lot better about my CPAP now, ..... Thanks
great presentation on the removal of the foam and cleaning the CPAP. Thanks for the work
Hi Tim, thanks brother. Glad you enjoyed it. It's a good solution for the short term but on the horizon look to change brands. Thank you. Nicko
Hello Nick, thank you so much for this video guide. I was wondering, it seems that the foam is completely outside of the motor sealed enclosure. I am confused, how could any particles from that foam get inhaled then? I just couldn't see how the disintegrated foam particle could get inside? Did I miss something?
Ask yourself the question… why would a company recall millions of cpap machines if they didn’t need too 🤝
@@CPAPReviews Sorry for my misunderstanding and for asking too quick. After I removed the foam in mine, I can see that the air intake pathway is through the foam.
Btw, is the airflow filter (rectangle) made from a safe material?
Thanks for all the info and instructions here. I removed my foam just now. I have been having issues and have been dealing with the foam particles in my mask for years and had no idea. I hope I don’t have permanent damage as a result. Also, I imagine using so clean is certainly not an issue now that the foam is gone correct?
Hi Adam, glad to hear it mate. The jury is out on the SoClean mate. I just don't know if it's worth it or if it affects other components. Cheers