They have a foundation to work off of to build up for the world cup. They do have to hope the youngsters develop well so they can at least be respectable.
@@user-rr7pk4er5z Aguirre is a alright coach, he did pretty good in Spain being one of the best who revolutionized a low rank team along with other coaches.
Not a fan of the Aguirre hire…would’ve preferred Rafa had stayed a Barcelona a little longer, but I totally understand why he would want to take this position.
If Rafa plays like he did at Barcelona, Mexico would lose like they did against Chile in the Copa América when they lost 7-0, because Mexico doesn't have the players to play that kind of football. To begin with, they would lose the ball in the exits and wouldn't be able to pass to the full-backs, because they don't have decent full-backs. Moreover, no Mexican player plays in an elite team in Europe, they don't know the Champions League or UEFA. They play fighting relegation, and the worst part is that they always get relegated, they don't fight and survive, they fight and end up defeated. Case in point: Johan Vásquez, César Montes, Ochoa, etc. All of them play in teams that don't escape relegation. I don't think it's because they play well.
I hate saying it, but Herc was spot on throughout the clip. Sure, Vasco is better than Jimmy. But I was there, Gandalf. I was there (checks calendar) 22 years ago. Vasco took Ramoncito out and put in a finished Matador. I was there the day the strength of that man failed. We should've reached the quinto partido that day, but the curse was allowed to endure. Vasco kept us out of the quarterfinals, his mojo is now broken. There is no strength left in Vasco.
Mexico shouldn't have gone to the Copa América, as they fixed the match against Honduras at the Azteca when they were already eliminated. They used the referee to win. Maybe that's why they hired Javier Aguirre-he's used to those things in Spain.
So basically mexico hired their version of Bruce Arena and Landon Donovan as head/assistant coach for these sorry af L tri players?? L tri is DOOMED!!!
They are not equivalent to Landon Donovan or Bruce Arena, as neither Aguirre nor Márquez have reached the fifth match. Bruce and Landon defeated Aguirre and Márquez in 2002 in Korea-Japan.
Even if we analyze statistically, Jimmy Lozano had more achievements as a coach than Javier Aguirre and Rafael Márquez combined, as Lozano won a Gold Cup in addition to the Olympic medal, while Aguirre, as the coach of Mexico, only has one Gold Cup, and Márquez has nothing yet. They should have kept Lozano. The problem isn't him; the problem is the players and the federation's officials.
I like the hire, El Vasco plays defensively sound which is what the team needs. The problem with Mexico is they’ve been trying to go toe to toe with good teams. Since Osorio implemented the 4-3-3 in 2018 Mexico has been getting blown out of the field by good teams, at least El Vasco brings order and stability at defense
Rafa Márquez is doing it because he loves his country. Is he ready for the head coach job? No. I would’ve preferred to see El Kaiser take the top job after having coached La Liga team on the top flight. If I were Márquez, I’d work with Aguirre until the end of the WC and then go back to La Liga.
Aguirre is NOT the right choice. He didn't do anything in the past 2 WCs. He calls up mostly his friends and has a thing against any player under 30. Hell, he'll probably unretire conejo and start him as the keeper. But say goodbye to any young talent, he's just never going to play them. Horrible step backwards for Mexico
A while ago, Aguirre said that Mexico was "a country of losers." I think someone who thinks like that shouldn't be anywhere near a Mexican national team. Mexico has no direction; the federation is merely covering up its internal disasters with names known to the public, but both options are really questionable. To begin with, Javier Aguirre has already managed two World Cups and did nothing. We could even say that he gave away the 2010 match against Argentina by starting Bofo Bautista, who hadn't been playing. And Rafael Márquez has zero experience as an assistant coach in Mexico.
I’m surprised Rafa took the job after seeing what the FMF did to Jimmy Lozano. They burned the bridge, left him high and dry with false promises. Sure Jimmy wasn’t the most qualified coach but they should have not came out publicly to say his job was secured and then end up sacking him.
I'll be brutally honest Mexico's reputation outside of CONCACAF isn't as big as some would have you believe, it wouldn't be attractive job to a lot of coaches, sure Rafa Marquez would take it, he's probably grown up dreaming of being in charge of his national team, staying at Barca might have been smarter career-wise but Marquez being a proud Mexican probably would have crawled over broken glass for Mexico
Yup Rafa should have stayed with Barca. I've come to the realization that Mexico is just happy with what they have. They have no intention of having a decent national team. Everyone's wallets are full, the teams, the players etc. So yeah, mission accomplished.
Is this guy smoking crack? Why would any fan be happy that Aguirre is back? Look at Hercules Gomez sitting there wondering the same shit. Javier Aguirre brought Conejo Perez, Carlos Salcido, Rafa Marquez and Gerardo Torrado as starters in 2010. I will never forgive him for that geriatric roster
Aguirre plays ugly you have no pressure you’re already qualified what’s the worry going out on the group stage just like quatar who cares ? That’s why this hire is bad you could for once get ahead of the timeline and build without having to miss a wc like the us had to do but stupidity, nepotism and corruption is a hard combo to fight against
2002 world cup with Vasco- talent pool probably the best mexico generation ever, what happened lost 1st round to USA. 2010 world cup with Vasco- talent pool Mexicos first ever under 17 world cup winners. What happened? They were all benched for old ass men and we got fucked by Argentina in the 1st round. That's all you need to know about this hire. Marquez does not matter because at the end of the day the one making the decisions is Vasco.
@ricomajestic the 2002 generation came off of winning the 1999 confederations cup. They were the best generation like I said. Only Mexico team ever to win a major tournament like that besides the 2012 Olympic team
I have followed Mexico long enough. This is just smoke and mirrors. They don’t have a pool of players.
They have a foundation to work off of to build up for the world cup. They do have to hope the youngsters develop well so they can at least be respectable.
mexico has 0 players on elite teams, but they talk like they can win the next wc 2026
@amoggitarklooru-me7si well yeah. They don't really sell their players internationally
What exactly is the smoke and mirror here lol????
I think you should be more worried about your team, no one wants to coach usmnt so they just rehired berthalter lol 😂
Aguirre failed twice already. What makes us think this time would be any different
in 2010 we asked the same thing and they did it anyway
Because the owner of Mexico is good friends with Aguirre fuckin embarrassing
Third time a charm lol
@@user-rr7pk4er5z Aguirre is a alright coach, he did pretty good in Spain being one of the best who revolutionized a low rank team along with other coaches.
@@alexsmith1207 I hear bull shit bro
Guillermo Almada should have been the coach
Not a fan of the Aguirre hire…would’ve preferred Rafa had stayed a Barcelona a little longer, but I totally understand why he would want to take this position.
Fmf needs to export and develop young players for 2030 so player pool can improve.
It's practically illegal to give young talent any play time in both Liga MX and la selección... México is a well oiled youth talent killing machine
In hindsight, Rafa Marquez is a great hire as an assistant. Problem is you can't trust the honchos in Mexico. Too much turnover coaching wise.
Fans will have to settle for the 5-4-1 counter-attacking ball. I think Rafa will play the Barcelona way when he has full control of the team.
If Rafa plays like he did at Barcelona, Mexico would lose like they did against Chile in the Copa América when they lost 7-0, because Mexico doesn't have the players to play that kind of football. To begin with, they would lose the ball in the exits and wouldn't be able to pass to the full-backs, because they don't have decent full-backs. Moreover, no Mexican player plays in an elite team in Europe, they don't know the Champions League or UEFA. They play fighting relegation, and the worst part is that they always get relegated, they don't fight and survive, they fight and end up defeated. Case in point: Johan Vásquez, César Montes, Ochoa, etc. All of them play in teams that don't escape relegation. I don't think it's because they play well.
I hate saying it, but Herc was spot on throughout the clip. Sure, Vasco is better than Jimmy. But I was there, Gandalf. I was there (checks calendar) 22 years ago. Vasco took Ramoncito out and put in a finished Matador. I was there the day the strength of that man failed. We should've reached the quinto partido that day, but the curse was allowed to endure. Vasco kept us out of the quarterfinals, his mojo is now broken. There is no strength left in Vasco.
They trying to put a band aid on a giant hole.
Mexico shouldn't have gone to the Copa América, as they fixed the match against Honduras at the Azteca when they were already eliminated. They used the referee to win. Maybe that's why they hired Javier Aguirre-he's used to those things in Spain.
How do you say BIG MISTAKE in catalan?
Aguirre
So basically mexico hired their version of Bruce Arena and Landon Donovan as head/assistant coach for these sorry af L tri players?? L tri is DOOMED!!!
Rafa should of stayed in Europe there were reports that Monaco and porto wanted him
Bruce and Donovan would be interesting together.
@@jorgeacevedo2872 i wouldn't mind seeing the soccer equivalent of the coach sours episode of King of the Hill happen to the USMNT lol
They are not equivalent to Landon Donovan or Bruce Arena, as neither Aguirre nor Márquez have reached the fifth match. Bruce and Landon defeated Aguirre and Márquez in 2002 in Korea-Japan.
@amoggitarklooru-me7si true but they're the closest thing.... so meh... 🫤😕
Muy bien Pedrosa, no simpatizo mucho con tu forma en tv, pero no te achicas en Ingles, una forma de admirar en esa parte.
Even if we analyze statistically, Jimmy Lozano had more achievements as a coach than Javier Aguirre and Rafael Márquez combined, as Lozano won a Gold Cup in addition to the Olympic medal, while Aguirre, as the coach of Mexico, only has one Gold Cup, and Márquez has nothing yet. They should have kept Lozano. The problem isn't him; the problem is the players and the federation's officials.
Jimmy Lozano was not the answer. He should have left after the Gold Cup.
Oh wow bro a Gold Cup😂😂 and nobody gives a fuck about a bronze Medal, accompanied by a assistant coach with no Knowledge of the sport😂
@@bali-b292 aguirre 30 years and just one league cup, woow give him the coach of the decade award, he is a mf
I like the hire, El Vasco plays defensively sound which is what the team needs. The problem with Mexico is they’ve been trying to go toe to toe with good teams. Since Osorio implemented the 4-3-3 in 2018 Mexico has been getting blown out of the field by good teams, at least El Vasco brings order and stability at defense
Ale Moreno should be in on this conversation, and they should go back and forth between English and Spanish without translating.
Rafa Márquez is doing it because he loves his country. Is he ready for the head coach job? No. I would’ve preferred to see El Kaiser take the top job after having coached La Liga team on the top flight. If I were Márquez, I’d work with Aguirre until the end of the WC and then go back to La Liga.
Aguirre is NOT the right choice. He didn't do anything in the past 2 WCs. He calls up mostly his friends and has a thing against any player under 30. Hell, he'll probably unretire conejo and start him as the keeper. But say goodbye to any young talent, he's just never going to play them. Horrible step backwards for Mexico
The pochitos are gonna eat this up and keep filling up the stadiums, lol.
Aguirre has grown i Europe over the years ,Rafa Marquez has also grown over the years in Europe, with a Barcelona
A while ago, Aguirre said that Mexico was "a country of losers." I think someone who thinks like that shouldn't be anywhere near a Mexican national team. Mexico has no direction; the federation is merely covering up its internal disasters with names known to the public, but both options are really questionable. To begin with, Javier Aguirre has already managed two World Cups and did nothing. We could even say that he gave away the 2010 match against Argentina by starting Bofo Bautista, who hadn't been playing. And Rafael Márquez has zero experience as an assistant coach in Mexico.
He's never coached a club team or national team! lol Barcelona B is a youth squad.
Los Bukis! Thats badass
It’s a stroke of genius. They will destroy US in Gold Cup
We’re looking at “L” Tri.
I’m surprised Rafa took the job after seeing what the FMF did to Jimmy Lozano. They burned the bridge, left him high and dry with false promises. Sure Jimmy wasn’t the most qualified coach but they should have not came out publicly to say his job was secured and then end up sacking him.
I think it’s worse that they tried to make him Aguirre assistant coach. That’s basically a demotion lol.
Herc, are you going back to Ahora o Nunca? Miss you there.
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I'll be brutally honest Mexico's reputation outside of CONCACAF isn't as big as some would have you believe, it wouldn't be attractive job to a lot of coaches, sure Rafa Marquez would take it, he's probably grown up dreaming of being in charge of his national team, staying at Barca might have been smarter career-wise but Marquez being a proud Mexican probably would have crawled over broken glass for Mexico
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Jose mourinho done deal
The new players will learn from the coaching staff. I feel like Edson Alvarez will benefit a lot from this
Yup Rafa should have stayed with Barca. I've come to the realization that Mexico is just happy with what they have. They have no intention of having a decent national team. Everyone's wallets are full, the teams, the players etc. So yeah, mission accomplished.
Los Bukis!!!
Rafa tiene huevos that’s it
La primera vez que Hercules Gómez esta basado con lo del nepotismo
Hell no they gonna suck !! Like always
I think Rafa probably $ecured a nice deal in case he gets $acked. 💵💶💷🤑, otherwise, I don't think he would have done it
Is this guy smoking crack? Why would any fan be happy that Aguirre is back? Look at Hercules Gomez sitting there wondering the same shit.
Javier Aguirre brought Conejo Perez, Carlos Salcido, Rafa Marquez and Gerardo Torrado as starters in 2010. I will never forgive him for that geriatric roster
Aguirre plays ugly you have no pressure you’re already qualified what’s the worry going out on the group stage just like quatar who cares ? That’s why this hire is bad you could for once get ahead of the timeline and build without having to miss a wc like the us had to do but stupidity, nepotism and corruption is a hard combo to fight against
2002 world cup with Vasco- talent pool probably the best mexico generation ever, what happened lost 1st round to USA.
2010 world cup with Vasco- talent pool Mexicos first ever under 17 world cup winners. What happened? They were all benched for old ass men and we got fucked by Argentina in the 1st round.
That's all you need to know about this hire. Marquez does not matter because at the end of the day the one making the decisions is Vasco.
2006 Mexican team was actually better and played better than Argentina in that decisive game.
@@ricomajesticthem team that couldn't beat Angola and lost to Portugal and Argentina? Nothing special that team is overated
2014 was the best performance
@ricomajestic the 2002 generation came off of winning the 1999 confederations cup. They were the best generation like I said. Only Mexico team ever to win a major tournament like that besides the 2012 Olympic team
They are going to burn Rafa Márquez
Aguirre failed threee times !! In the selección best as it gets? GTFOH bro
I like the stability for six years without the clown show!