Thanks for the Shopnotes plug Izzy. I remember the project you're referring to because I designed it when I was a project designer for August Home Publishing back in the mid-90's. I remember taking the project from concept, through development and working out the bugs to getting it ready for publication. Each project took 1000's of hours from a dedicated staff to bring to fruition and publication.
Just a thought from an aerospace fabrication facility. When mixing resin in a round vessel, you should take scissors and cut your stir stick flat on one end. This way you will get a better mix by scraping all the way into the corners of the cup bottom. We also pour the resin from the mixing cup into a new cup because there is a minute amount of unmixed resin on the sides of the cup. Just FYI and probably doesn't mater much on this application but for anything structural I would follow these suggestions. Best to you Izzy and glad to see you standing.
Very good. You remembered something from long ago and with your skill and experience you have born fruit to give to others. Great!! Thank you. God bless you both.
Not sure if I have commented on your videos, I am a "liker" more than a commenter, but I have followed you for years, your love for the craft shows through, thanks for all you do for us weekend wood butcherers!
Good video and clear instruction. I liked when you made a mistake, you didn’t hide it from the viewers. That makes a viewer know that being perfect isn’t necessary, but figuring out how to deal with an error is part of life and learning. To err is human….to fix it is craftsmanship….. From a “fellow teacher”….thanks.
Definitely like the design and build. But since the inside of the disc is running SLOWER as the outside I would suggest to manage the skew by micro adjusting the "angle block" to the left or right thereby onetime correctly setting the angle between the chisel and the chiselholder. Nice "crazy sharp" video, great solution, I will build mine soon. Many thanks.
You could fix the inner/outer speed issue by building a pivot into the horizontal rod. In other words, instead of both end of that rod being fixed, you make one end able to move, probably with another screw and knob. That lets you adjust the angle of engagement between chisel and sandpaper in a very stable and repeatable manner.
The big advantage of this system is that you get a flat surface instead of a hollow grind. I use that for wood carving knives. You can also make the back of a chisel nice and flat again. Thank you for your great video.
What's wrong with a hollow grind? Why is a flat bevel better? Quite frankly I prefer hollow ground plane irons over flat primary bevels. I've no problem with hollow ground chisels either. Although flats definitely should be flat.
Started building this out of steel. I'm sure it will work because I've spent way too much money on sharpening devices. I'm also making a leather strop disc. Thank you very much !
Awesome build! Love the indexing removable plates. I don't like the error because of the spinning disk and inside/outside speeds. So I'm thinking, and you're way smarter than I am, that this needs to be a build attachment for a belt sander. It's one stop shop if they make belts at that fine grit, which they probably don't. Im going to look that up now.
I just made mandrels that could be chucked up in the drill. I had a bunch of short heavy wall tubes. So I made circles out of melamine and bolted those to the tubes that I tapped. I posted the project on Instructables in 2014 and it is titled, Power Scary Sharpening System
AWESOME. I did see the Shopnotes that featured your inspiration. Loving the "old" Izzy making a return. No CNC, no "products", a built, and something that is cool! Now...where to find freaking place that sells quality plywood (my local big box scumbags will order it for me...if I buy an entire bunk...and I'm not buying $2500+ in plywood in a single go). LOL.
This maybe obvious, but have you looked into a small hardware/lumber shop ordering it for you? It may be a few dollars more, but you can get the amount you want. Also, with the shortage of birch plywood, I've been buying plywood made from other woods such as maple. It also comes in other hardwoods too. Have a great day!
Using a link-belt would greatly simplify things as it could be mounted & dismounted with impunity regardless of status of machine assembly. I love kinetic ideology like this, thanks for the fix.
Link belts are not that easy to do and undo. Whenever you do mess with them you really stress the link out too. For what they cost you're better off just linking them once. It's really only the last link that's a problem.
Only you could pull off this build. Nice job breaking is down into managable steps. Super interrsted in the motor version. I REALLY need some of those knob molds. Man those would be helpful when I need a specific length knob. Brilliant!!
That maple on which you demonstrated chisel sharpness at the end looks like tap hole maple, harvested from the trunk of a maple tree that had been taps to draw sap for syrup. Cool.
I had an furniture Art faculty use a 6" tabletop belt sander grind the bevel on the end of the sander giving it a slight concave shape, then he would hone it at about 24° on a hard stone. His chisels made great joints and planes could shave tissue thin curls.
Very cool build. Thank you for sharing. Just wondering about your comment at around 12:35 where you say "the disc is moving faster at the center than on the outside". Thinking that it should be the opposite. That is, the disc should be moving faster toward the outer edge and the center would be moving the slowest.
Nice work, The back of the chisel/plane blade needs to be perfectly flat and polished as well for best results. Also, a mate of mine who is an incredible carver, uses straight MDF disks, on their face or edges, profiled edges for various non flat carving tools, with a light spray mist of water, loads them with a polishing compound and then polishes the faces to an absolute mirror finish. They're ridiculously sharp then....... totaly effortless paring of timber. Probably achieve the same thing or similar with the 60K grit that you mentioned at the end.
Holy, Dude!!!! Y'all are smart.. lol that design is pretty awesome. I dig it, I've built a few jigs for the drill press. But no way any of those, are they complex! Well done.. you both awesome.
Fantastic Fantastic Fantastic Thank you for the video Could you come up with an project idea for sharpening planer JOINTER blades please the scary sharp kind Many thanks in advance
One year later, so am I. Seems he's having too much fun in the shop and has forgotten all about this project. 😂 That said, doesn't look too complicated. It's basically a turntable with a stronger motor. With a serious reduction gear in there, to turn the high RPM of whatever small motor you can fit in there to something more suitable for sharpening, rather than grinding. The reduction ratio would depend on the RPM of your motor, but I'm thinking worm drive. The motor can be salvaged off a broken tool like an electric drill. Even better if it has soft start, so as to put less load on the worm drive as the thing spins up.
Nice jig. I hand sharpen with diamond plates. I have a few hand sharpening jigs from different sources and some I modified. I prefer hand sharpening cos I get a better feel of how much metal I'm removing. As with any sharpening effort, the number rule is not to over sharpen your blade. Of course when I want to change the angle of a chisel, it can take a while by hand. I will use a bench grinder or a belt sander to get a good baseline angle and then finish by hand. Thanks.
Hand honing the primary bevel is for the birds. That's what bench grinders are for. Why would you ever want to change the angle? Just sharpen everything at 30° secondary bevel. That's really as sharp as anything's ever going to get. Although there's an argument for going steeper with mortising chisels. But I don't bother personally. I use one diamond plate. That's it. Just a 1,000 grit.
At 12:06, consider first coloring the surface with a Sharpie. It will more clearly show you the progress as you sand it down to the correct angle. Works great for sharpening knives, too.
I love the stuff you make. I wish I had a place to make stuff but they made me take my workshop off of our apartment balcony. Questions: 1. Have you thought about making a belt sander instead of a disc Sander to sharpen tools? 2. The belt reduction on most drill presses doesn't seem to slow it down enough for me. Would a motor speed control work on a drill press like those used on a ceiling fan? I have used one on an antique desk fan for many years with no problem. I did not know if it would work without damage on a larger drill press motor?
Use different size pulleys on each shaft. Larger on the disk, smaller on the driver to slow the speed down in the sharpener if your slowest drill press isn't slow enough.
Izzy, what about making a tubular sharpening station but, instead of using plywood/mdf, make it out of poly. So you can use wet sandpaper too. Kinda like a "drum sander" type. Hope that makes sense. Man, it is good to see you up and moving around. You're the best. Cheers :)
I hope the modified version that doesn't require a drill press shows up soon as I had a similar idea myself. I haven't built it yet so I'd like to see how you went about it before I dive in.
Thanks dude and dudette that’s awesome! 😜Annyhoo you just gave ma a great idea for sharping my bowl gouges etc for wood turning! 🤘🏼🫵🏼🍻 Thanks Maggy for the tips on resin handles! ✌🏼🎉
Does anyone other than me wish Shop Notes was still being published? I love my old issues and find myself going thru them when I have a lull in builds. Because of its format with the holes already in them, I have been able to save them all in binders. I'm old fashion and prefer to feel the paper as I flip through it.
12:38 The inner disc is actually moving SLOWER than the outside. The inner part is spinning at the same RPM as the outside, but the outside is moving a longer distance than the inside to maintain that same RPM (due to the larger radius). So the outside is moving faster than the inside.
This is super cool! I love the ingenuity of stuff like this especially when we make things have multiple uses. However, I wonder if you wouldn't be just as well off making a tool holder for a disc sander instead?
FYI ... the original article that inspired Izzy's project was in issue 107 of ShopNotes magazine, Sept/Oct 2009
Thank you! I will pin this comment when I get back to the office tonight.
Thanks for posting. I have ALL issues of ShopNotes magazine in digital format (USB). You made it easier for me to locate the article 👍
@@countrymagic61 I would love to have that too, mind sharing it ? :)
An earlier (simpler) iteration was in issue #61. It sharpened on the edge of the disc and buffed on the top. 😎
Thanks for the Shopnotes plug Izzy. I remember the project you're referring to because I designed it when I was a project designer for August Home Publishing back in the mid-90's.
I remember taking the project from concept, through development and working out the bugs to getting it ready for publication. Each project took 1000's of hours from a dedicated staff to bring to fruition and publication.
Wow, that is cool. I have every issue of Shopnotes (and Woodsmith) from beginning to end. I miss it.
Very cool! That you for the innovation!
Just a thought from an aerospace fabrication facility. When mixing resin in a round vessel, you should take scissors and cut your stir stick flat on one end. This way you will get a better mix by scraping all the way into the corners of the cup bottom. We also pour the resin from the mixing cup into a new cup because there is a minute amount of unmixed resin on the sides of the cup. Just FYI and probably doesn't mater much on this application but for anything structural I would follow these suggestions. Best to you Izzy and glad to see you standing.
Very good. You remembered something from long ago and with your skill and experience you have born fruit to give to others. Great!! Thank you. God bless you both.
Not sure if I have commented on your videos, I am a "liker" more than a commenter, but I have followed you for years, your love for the craft shows through, thanks for all you do for us weekend wood butcherers!
thank you for the kind words! welcome to the comment section
That's a clever way to make knobs on demand.
Good video and clear instruction. I liked when you made a mistake, you didn’t hide it from the viewers. That makes a viewer know that being perfect isn’t necessary, but figuring out how to deal with an error is part of life and learning. To err is human….to fix it is craftsmanship….. From a “fellow teacher”….thanks.
Definitely like the design and build. But since the inside of the disc is running SLOWER as the outside I would suggest to manage the skew by micro adjusting the "angle block" to the left or right thereby onetime correctly setting the angle between the chisel and the chiselholder.
Nice "crazy sharp" video, great solution, I will build mine soon. Many thanks.
You could fix the inner/outer speed issue by building a pivot into the horizontal rod. In other words, instead of both end of that rod being fixed, you make one end able to move, probably with another screw and knob. That lets you adjust the angle of engagement between chisel and sandpaper in a very stable and repeatable manner.
This is the cleverest thing I’ve seen all day.
This is so timely. I sat down with my binder full of the Shop Note magizine and saw this sharpening jig in it. Great job in recreating it!
The big advantage of this system is that you get a flat surface instead of a hollow grind.
I use that for wood carving knives.
You can also make the back of a chisel nice and flat again.
Thank you for your great video.
What's wrong with a hollow grind? Why is a flat bevel better? Quite frankly I prefer hollow ground plane irons over flat primary bevels. I've no problem with hollow ground chisels either. Although flats definitely should be flat.
Started building this out of steel. I'm sure it will work because I've spent way too much money on sharpening devices. I'm also making a leather strop disc. Thank you very much !
That goes beyond scary sharp to wicked shaahhp
Great show with the two of you!
Like the way she played along with ya!
Also that's a beautiful idea!
Thank you booth Izzy & Maggie. Great clip with a perfect rhythm to watch. Keep it up.
Nice! Lots of useful ideas & nice knobs too that are super practical & create a great look, thanks for sharing!
You guys need to make more videos. I enjoy your projects..
Awesome build! Love the indexing removable plates. I don't like the error because of the spinning disk and inside/outside speeds. So I'm thinking, and you're way smarter than I am, that this needs to be a build attachment for a belt sander. It's one stop shop if they make belts at that fine grit, which they probably don't. Im going to look that up now.
I just made mandrels that could be chucked up in the drill. I had a bunch of short heavy wall tubes. So I made circles out of melamine and bolted those to the tubes that I tapped. I posted the project on Instructables in 2014 and it is titled, Power Scary Sharpening System
AWESOME. I did see the Shopnotes that featured your inspiration. Loving the "old" Izzy making a return. No CNC, no "products", a built, and something that is cool!
Now...where to find freaking place that sells quality plywood (my local big box scumbags will order it for me...if I buy an entire bunk...and I'm not buying $2500+ in plywood in a single go). LOL.
This maybe obvious, but have you looked into a small hardware/lumber shop ordering it for you? It may be a few dollars more, but you can get the amount you want. Also, with the shortage of birch plywood, I've been buying plywood made from other woods such as maple. It also comes in other hardwoods too. Have a great day!
I like this, I had thought of building my own similar sharpener, but right at the end there, you showed me what it was I wanted. Brill mate.
That is a brilliant sharpening system. Thanks 👍🇦🇺
You're a very clever man Mr Swan.
I’ve said it before but it bears repeating: you are very clever people and I hope you are keeping well 🌞
Awesome job!!! Looking forward to the next sharpening system…. Actually very excited after seeing the prototype
You two are awesome!
I'll definitely make one. That's a nice system.
Very nice build! It's like a DIY worksharp system
When I first saw this video that is exactly what I was thinking.
I wish I had you for a shop teacher. You rock.
My god, could you imagine? Other shop students come home with missing fingers. But if Izzy was your shop teacher, you'd come home with extra ones.
Using a link-belt would greatly simplify things as it could be mounted & dismounted with impunity regardless of status of machine assembly.
I love kinetic ideology like this, thanks for the fix.
Link belts are not that easy to do and undo. Whenever you do mess with them you really stress the link out too. For what they cost you're better off just linking them once. It's really only the last link that's a problem.
*Diamond Lapidary Plates....Life Changing* 🔥🔥🔪⚒⚔
The video is sooooo bright!
Very useful project and very professionally annotated
Great project and love your lively construction music.
Only you could pull off this build. Nice job breaking is down into managable steps. Super interrsted in the motor version. I REALLY need some of those knob molds. Man those would be helpful when I need a specific length knob. Brilliant!!
Wow! Now I gotta make me one. Thanks
good music with your speed of work. Nice
Great content. I reckon you should have a go at a belt design though, over the disk approach (which is always going to have the diameter speed issue).
Like the way you guys explain everything. Simple and to the point. Great job. Thanks for the information.
This is a great idea 💡
Shopnotes 107 the issue you referred to! Nice build.
Nice one Izzy, I'm going to have a go at that. Thanks, Stewart, south west Australia.
That maple on which you demonstrated chisel sharpness at the end looks like tap hole maple, harvested from the trunk of a maple tree that had been taps to draw sap for syrup. Cool.
I had an furniture Art faculty use a 6" tabletop belt sander grind the bevel on the end of the sander giving it a slight concave shape, then he would hone it at about 24° on a hard stone. His chisels made great joints and planes could shave tissue thin curls.
Maggie is great- she looks like one of the actors on "Charmed"!
Great Video , Maggie is so cool , I want a maggie in my shop !
Such a cool project and build! Love this idea, great work!
Very cool build. Thank you for sharing.
Just wondering about your comment at around 12:35 where you say "the disc is moving faster at the center than on the outside".
Thinking that it should be the opposite. That is, the disc should be moving faster toward the outer edge and the center would be moving the slowest.
I bilt this project about twelve years ago using Shop Note and bever used it...not a surprise,,, I have lots of similiuar projcts
Nice work,
The back of the chisel/plane blade needs to be perfectly flat and polished as well for best results.
Also, a mate of mine who is an incredible carver, uses straight MDF disks, on their face or edges, profiled edges for various non flat carving tools, with a light spray mist of water, loads them with a polishing compound and then polishes the faces to an absolute mirror finish. They're ridiculously sharp then....... totaly effortless paring of timber.
Probably achieve the same thing or similar with the 60K grit that you mentioned at the end.
Nice tutorial. Thanks!
Does it play 33's and 78's? I was going to make a big disc for4 my lathe but this looks like it would be a lot better.
Holy, Dude!!!! Y'all are smart.. lol that design is pretty awesome. I dig it, I've built a few jigs for the drill press. But no way any of those, are they complex! Well done.. you both awesome.
Hey that's a real sharp video Izzy thumbs up.
Great build yet again.
I thought that was gonna be a simple jig, but all the fine tuning and creation was a tad intimidating. Maybe one day….
This is excellent idea
Thanks for that Nice project andré
thanks for posting. This is exactly what I was looking for!
Fantastic Fantastic Fantastic
Thank you for the video
Could you come up with an project idea for sharpening planer JOINTER blades please the scary sharp kind
Many thanks in advance
Nice knobs. And those handles aren’t bad either. Great job I would buy a kit if u sold it.
Very cool project Izzy! Looking forward to the other video showing the product version.
One year later, so am I. Seems he's having too much fun in the shop and has forgotten all about this project. 😂
That said, doesn't look too complicated. It's basically a turntable with a stronger motor. With a serious reduction gear in there, to turn the high RPM of whatever small motor you can fit in there to something more suitable for sharpening, rather than grinding. The reduction ratio would depend on the RPM of your motor, but I'm thinking worm drive. The motor can be salvaged off a broken tool like an electric drill. Even better if it has soft start, so as to put less load on the worm drive as the thing spins up.
Wow! That is one ridiculously sharp chisel...
Nice jig. I hand sharpen with diamond plates. I have a few hand sharpening jigs from different sources and some I modified. I prefer hand sharpening cos I get a better feel of how much metal I'm removing. As with any sharpening effort, the number rule is not to over sharpen your blade. Of course when I want to change the angle of a chisel, it can take a while by hand. I will use a bench grinder or a belt sander to get a good baseline angle and then finish by hand. Thanks.
Hand honing the primary bevel is for the birds. That's what bench grinders are for. Why would you ever want to change the angle? Just sharpen everything at 30° secondary bevel. That's really as sharp as anything's ever going to get. Although there's an argument for going steeper with mortising chisels. But I don't bother personally. I use one diamond plate. That's it. Just a 1,000 grit.
That, put the belt on the pulley before you tighten the bolts thing. I learned that one while working on my car one day. 😂
At 12:06, consider first coloring the surface with a Sharpie. It will more clearly show you the progress as you sand it down to the correct angle. Works great for sharpening knives, too.
I love the stuff you make.
I wish I had a place to make stuff but they made me take my workshop off of our apartment balcony.
Questions:
1. Have you thought about making a belt sander instead of a disc Sander to sharpen tools?
2. The belt reduction on most drill presses doesn't seem to slow it down enough for me.
Would a motor speed control work on a drill press like those used on a ceiling fan? I have used one on an antique desk fan for many years with no problem.
I did not know if it would work without damage on a larger drill press motor?
Use different size pulleys on each shaft. Larger on the disk, smaller on the driver to slow the speed down in the sharpener if your slowest drill press isn't slow enough.
Я думал что это просто симпатичная подставка под микрофон, а она оуазывается еще и эпоксидку готовит 💪
i wasn't impressed till i seen that lime green Wilton vise. oooooh aaaaaah.
Very good, and feel good
Cut to the chase and buy a Sorby ProEdge Plus... there's no comparison and it can sharpen almost anything with an edge.
Super cool build. Thanks for all your content.
Izzy, what about making a tubular sharpening station but, instead of using plywood/mdf, make it out of poly. So you can use wet sandpaper too. Kinda like a "drum sander" type. Hope that makes sense.
Man, it is good to see you up and moving around. You're the best. Cheers :)
So cool. Love your ingenuity.
Thank you
Ooh! yummy sharp!
She is standing there thinking just say "knob job" honey, as she smiles while you are describing all the variations. LOL
I hope the modified version that doesn't require a drill press shows up soon as I had a similar idea myself. I haven't built it yet so I'd like to see how you went about it before I dive in.
Thanks dude and dudette that’s awesome! 😜Annyhoo you just gave ma a great idea for sharping my bowl gouges etc for wood turning! 🤘🏼🫵🏼🍻 Thanks Maggy for the tips on resin handles! ✌🏼🎉
Good idea. Thank's.
Does anyone other than me wish Shop Notes was still being published? I love my old issues and find myself going thru them when I have a lull in builds. Because of its format with the holes already in them, I have been able to save them all in binders. I'm old fashion and prefer to feel the paper as I flip through it.
About 5:05 I noticed you had a drill powered hex key; super idea kind sir!
Impressive.
Great video. Thanks for the idea!
thanks
Watching this video at 1.75X speed makes your music sound hilarious. It’s like the Star-power up music from Super Mario bros.
Don't know how you call the lovely lady on your left but Crazy Sharp Chisel works for me!
Thank you. It was nice your granddaughter helped!
Serious innuendo bingo going on in this one... rods, knobs and hardeners all over the place.
12:38 The inner disc is actually moving SLOWER than the outside. The inner part is spinning at the same RPM as the outside, but the outside is moving a longer distance than the inside to maintain that same RPM (due to the larger radius). So the outside is moving faster than the inside.
Figuring out the speed difference is as easy as pi. SFPM = (PI * DIA * RPM) / 12
Brilliant idea, Izzy! Fantastic work! 😃
Well done, guys!!!
Stay safe there with your families! 🖖😊
Really looking forward to the next video on this! Great job!!
Loved this
This is super cool! I love the ingenuity of stuff like this especially when we make things have multiple uses.
However, I wonder if you wouldn't be just as well off making a tool holder for a disc sander instead?
That would be fine if you could control the speed of the disk sander and easily change the grit on the disc sander.
@@MichaeltheCrank fair points!
Very nice work
Great video great work woodworking great job. Great show
Idea:....can you make a round disk with leather on it for stropping the chisel, instead of hand stropping
AWESOEM VIDEO
Great channel 👍
Excellent!!!