The whole summer of 88, all I listened to was 1)"No Exit" by Fates 2)"Them" by King Diamond 3)"Fifth Angel" debut 4)"Operation Mindcrime" by Queensryche This was by FAR my favorite album that summer.
First video I ever seen of them back in '87 and I've been hooked ever since. Matheos is one of the greatist song writers ever, and Alder's vocals are so pure. Fk'n timeless.
@calastiur Yeah the vocals do have a similiar feel. Yes!! I love both bands and listen to them quite often. I listen to Coroner in absurd amounts. They play a similiar style to the stuff me and my drummer make up. Coroner is one of my favorite bands and has had a big impact on me. Love that stuff.
This era of Fates DEFINED heavy. "Anarchy Divine" is one of my all-time favorites from the band, and features Matheos & Aresti's most death-from-the-skies lead & riff work. They've changed quite a bit since this album, but the memories of the No Exit era still hold dear :-)
Damn, I remember hearing them back in '88. This was the best music I ever heard! Ray's a lot older, now, and probably can't hit those highs like that anymore. What a heavy fuckin' song! Still relavent.
The intro, before the vocals start, is pure thrash metal. These guys may be classified as progressive, but the intro is thrash. That snare drum in the song intro is like a damned earthquake...brutal sound!
Ah, yet another masterpiece from the '80's. What I wouldn't do to relive those days. The greatest times in my life and in metal for that matter. They just don't make 'em like they used to. \m/ \m/
This is a milestone album..i never got it why dream theater are getting so much attention...their music never had the feeling or drive of fates warning..but then again..good things are better stay for the few..!!!
Fucking Awesome. Too many prog bands are guilty of doing away with "heavy" in prog metal. This intro alone, I must have replayed over and over again 100 times...
@calastiur Dude, I checked Keeper of Dreams out, holy fuck, that shit is cool, it takes like the early death/thrash style of death and mixes it with their technical and progressive stuff. Wow. I had to download the album which was quite a hassle to find, but fuck, it is badass. Thanks for the reccomendation. Like god damn. Good shit.
@calastiur Haha the vocals are definitely different, they shove a bunch of genres in, like those are almost like black metal vocals, and theirs a lot of punk stuff in their too, as well as thrash and death metal. If I were you i'd definitely try checking em out again when you're more in the mood. Keeper of Dreams sounds like death!?!? I have to hear this!
I have perfect appreciation for what they used to be i like old and new fates warning, i dont prefer one over the other, what I was simply saying is that they both sound good and not all metal has to be as i said before blazing in balls first with a guitar solo metal is the most versatile music on the planet, it can be soft, heavy, dark, pure, symphonic ALL kinds of styles in one genre that's a reason why I love metal, you'll never find 2 bands that sound exactly alike
Indeed this is a great song although i am not much into the high pitched voice of the vocalist. The intro, from 0:01 to 1:26 is a true metal masterpiece! The sound of the snare drum is like an earthquake, the brutal riff and the bass guitar are all overwhelming. Can you recommend other Fates Warning songs with brutall riffs like this one?
I'll Personally every one will put less than 5 stars to this song! :) The intro, most of all, is Fu--ing amazing! My favourite Fate's albums are Perfect Symmetry and Parallels, so the PROG era! But i also like too much their Heavy M. era!! My favourite metal band, with Symphony X. Prog Rules!
Even as a teen i could tell these guyz had true talent as musicians...the vocals were fucking awesome...the guitar riffs were heavy and tricky...the drummer played with a weird broken rhythm that sounded different and unique...I scratch my head to this day as to why these clowns never made it real big like Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth...etc.
@calastiur Theres also this band out here in AZ called Vektor, they released an album recently. They aretechnical but they are still memorable. Like, even with the mad riff changes and complex song structure, you can still follow it cause it flows so well, and its all very memorable. i'd definitely reccomend giving them a listen.
i beg to differ diodude678 Queensryche is still one of my all time favorite bands their second cd does not topple an album such as operation mindcrime, I am also looking forward to getting their upcomming album "American Soldier" so many great things has queensryche done but this video isnt about queensryche it's about fate's warning so lets leave queensryche on their videos and Fate's warning on their shall we? :D
I agree. And to make the differences within the prog-metal genre even clearer, check out the difference between for example these guys and Gojira, which also play prog-metal.
@calastiur Yeah, Awaken the Guardian was pretty much a pure power metal album with some thrashy-ness here and there, but No Exit really brought a lot of thrash influence as you said. Probably why I dig this album so much. Probably my favorite from them.
@HarveyHenkelmann I remember reading a metal magazine when No Exit came out, where they kept harping on the Geoff Tate thing, especially the song "In A Word" (I couldn't hear it). Matheos's response: "I don't really agree with that. I honestly don't think "The Ivory Gate of Dreams" sounds anything like Queensryche". Right on, Jimmy :-)
@calastiur thats the great thing about progressive metal they always switch there style up...bands like queensryche fates warning dream theatre every album has its own unique sound
There are alot of good Prog bands from Europe and USA. Try Pain of Salvation, Into Eternity, Meshuggah, Symphony X, Sun Caged, Spiral Architect, Orphaned Land, Blotted Science, Sikth, Evergrey, Pagan's Mind, Spastic Ink, Stride, Outworld, Vanden Plas......these are the ones I can remember from the top of my head now...
a very good point another good comparison would be "savatage" and "amorphis" granted they are very far apart in age but still I enjoy Savatage as I do Amorphis
@rocker66666666 listening to Fates from album to album can be a headtrip. They have somehow managed to sound so drastically different on their albums that it almost doesn't even sound like the same band. Try a search on RUclips of "Without A Trace" (1985), "The Sorceress" (1986), "In A Word"(1988), and "Static Acts"(1989). You won't even believe it's the same band that accomplished all of that in 4 years.
Not quite... Ray was born in 1967, so he was already around 20 when he joined Fates. Frank Aresti was also born in '67....I believe he was the one that was around 17 when he joined Fates during the Spectre Tour.
All the talk about thrash/speed metal underground revolution in the 80's,styles like progressive metal(FATES WARNING),doom metal(ST.VITUS),crossover thrash(D.R.I.),power metal(RUNNING WILD),traditional metal(MANILLA ROAD), black metal(CELTIC FROST),death metal(POSSESSED)and even struggling almost forgotten NWOBHM(HOLOCAUST) was also as much alive in the scene as well.Slayer and Metallica would've shared the stage with bands like I just mentioned before of course in the early days.
I see what he's getting at. While they are rock, some of the stuff they were doing was pretty heavy. Listen to some of the stuff on Red. They actually did get pretty metally here and there for their time.
@calastiur Very true, i just enjoy the heaviness in this album, but i love the complexity of The Spectre Within, that album is amazing as well. I agree with you haha.
si igual fates son parte de las mejores bandas progrecivas-metal que tengo en mi coleccion y la era ray alder buenissima no cabe duda metal never dies si señor...¡¡go..acatlipa,mor,..¡¡¡a.n.d...y ya..¡¡¡¡
@ridethelightning209 Heavy: "Valley of the Dolls" and "Traveler In Time". Rock oriented: "Eye To Eye" and "Through Different Eyes". Weird: "At Fates Hands" and "Another Perfect Day". New age/world music: "Chasing Time" and "Wish". Fates has done it all :-)
@motleycrue24 queensryche signed with a big label EMI, opening for big bands like iron maiden and going to japan. While fates warning signed with metal blade records, with no backing FW was doomed to playing small clubs in CT and on long island, but thats the way the fans liked it I guess. by the time FW really tried to break into mainstream it was too late. Pearl Jam and nirvana took over. thats just my take. but ivory gate of dreams my favorite song ever, can never get tired of it.
@PhoenixJasmine - I like John's albums better too. I do like their later stuff, but anything they did with Zimmerman was where the band peaked, musically. Awaken the Guardian is easily one of the Top 5 metal releases of the 80's.
Just ordered this album from Amazon. This album is criminally underrated and among the best progressive metal albums ever produced.
The whole summer of 88, all I listened to was
1)"No Exit" by Fates
2)"Them" by King Diamond
3)"Fifth Angel" debut
4)"Operation Mindcrime" by Queensryche
This was by FAR my favorite album that summer.
You can hear the Judas Priest influence. Great singing! Rippin' solos! Awesome stuff!
Such a classic song from a classic album!
Jim's technique never ceases to amaze me.
Righteous! Criminally is the best way to describe how underrated this epic CD is.
no exit...most underrated album ever. Its been 20 yrs. and this masterpiece still blows me away.
Ray Alder has a great voice.
Some of those screams he does in The Ivory Gate of Dreams are insane.
I haven't heard this song since I took the tape deck out of my car 20 years ago. This song still kicks ass.Thanks for posting it.
One of my alltime favorite metal bands, I used to hang with these guys in the city for a long time when ray came on board
Early Queensryche,Savatage, and Fates Warning!! Man, this song just solidified the No Exit LP. I miss those daze. I still have it.....ON VINYL!
First video I ever seen of them back in '87 and I've been hooked ever since. Matheos is one of the greatist song writers ever, and Alder's vocals are so pure. Fk'n timeless.
I love how heavy and raw the vocals are on this album.
What an amazing band, I love them with both arch and ray alder.
@calastiur Yeah the vocals do have a similiar feel. Yes!! I love both bands and listen to them quite often. I listen to Coroner in absurd amounts. They play a similiar style to the stuff me and my drummer make up. Coroner is one of my favorite bands and has had a big impact on me. Love that stuff.
This era of Fates DEFINED heavy. "Anarchy Divine" is one of my all-time favorites from the band, and features Matheos & Aresti's most death-from-the-skies lead & riff work.
They've changed quite a bit since this album, but the memories of the No Exit era still hold dear :-)
Love these guys seen em so many times back in the 80s they would be so big if they came out now
I must have worn three "No Exit" cassettes out when I was in high school. FW is one of the reasons I got into metal.
Damn, I remember hearing them back in '88. This was the best music I ever heard! Ray's a lot older, now, and probably can't hit those highs like that anymore. What a heavy fuckin' song! Still relavent.
I was at the show yesterday it was amazing with the Parallels line up.
The intro, before the vocals start, is pure thrash metal. These guys may be classified as progressive, but the intro is thrash.
That snare drum in the song intro is like a damned earthquake...brutal sound!
I saw this tour in Milwaukee 20+ years ago. Even though I am in my 50's now, I still consider this some of the best Metal of this era.
Ah, yet another masterpiece from the '80's. What I wouldn't do to relive those days. The greatest times in my life and in metal for that matter. They just don't make 'em like they used to. \m/ \m/
This song is BEYOND awesome!!! Huge Ray Alder fan!
Dude this is killing my neck I can't stop banging on the intro!!!
Hell yeah, the original Headbanger's Ball. I recorded "Silent Cries" on the Ball back when I was a young teen.
No Exit...this Album is wonderful !!!!!!!!
i remember getting there cassette tape XDD awesome that they have videos on youtube brings me back memories
Oh yeah! Fates, King and Queensryche are my favourite too! Masterpice albums!
This is one of the most awesome songs ever.
No Exit changed my life forever.
This is a milestone album..i never got it why dream theater are getting so much attention...their music never had the feeling or drive of fates warning..but then again..good things are better stay for the few..!!!
the bass here take a big part of domination in this song
This song features Aresti and Matheos's most death-from-the-skies riffing and leads. Pure genuis!
This whole album is awesome. My favorite by FW!
i've never been a big fan of metal but i've always been a big fan of fates warning
Fucking Awesome. Too many prog bands are guilty of doing away with "heavy" in prog metal. This intro alone, I must have replayed over and over again 100 times...
One of the best Metal bands you've never heard of ;)
Metal was so much cooler back in those days, this proves it!
They are much better than most bands of today.
Only Fates Warning can play a song with with crunching guitars that you can listen for hours and not get tired of.
@calastiur Dude, I checked Keeper of Dreams out, holy fuck, that shit is cool, it takes like the early death/thrash style of death and mixes it with their technical and progressive stuff. Wow. I had to download the album which was quite a hassle to find, but fuck, it is badass. Thanks for the reccomendation. Like god damn. Good shit.
Stayin' heavy at 53 and getting heavier.
Colosseum !!!!! ( R.I.P. Juhani Palomäki )
@calastiur Haha the vocals are definitely different, they shove a bunch of genres in, like those are almost like black metal vocals, and theirs a lot of punk stuff in their too, as well as thrash and death metal. If I were you i'd definitely try checking em out again when you're more in the mood.
Keeper of Dreams sounds like death!?!? I have to hear this!
The Ivory Gates Of Dreams on the NO EXIT album, this song is so intense but Anarchy Divines rocks to!
I have perfect appreciation for what they used to be
i like old and new fates warning, i dont prefer one over the other, what I was simply saying is that they both sound good and not all metal has to be as i said before blazing in balls first with a guitar solo
metal is the most versatile music on the planet, it can be soft, heavy, dark, pure, symphonic ALL kinds of styles in one genre
that's a reason why I love metal, you'll never find 2 bands that sound exactly alike
right on man old metalheads NEVER DIE!!!!!!!
i fucking love FW. never got the real recognition they deserved. My opinion is they paved the way for dream theater, stratovarius etc....
holy fuck, this is my first time listing to the band. THEY KICK ASSS.
I NEED TO BUY THERE SHIT!
Brings back old memories
Simply the best progressive metal band of all time (with Queensryche and Psychotic Waltz..)
Headbangers Ball!!! Damn I miss ya.
Indeed this is a great song although i am not much into the high pitched voice of the vocalist. The intro, from 0:01 to 1:26 is a true metal masterpiece! The sound of the snare drum is like an earthquake, the brutal riff and the bass guitar are all overwhelming.
Can you recommend other Fates Warning songs with brutall riffs like this one?
I'll Personally every one will put less than 5 stars to this song! :)
The intro, most of all, is Fu--ing amazing!
My favourite Fate's albums are Perfect Symmetry and Parallels, so the PROG era! But i also like too much their Heavy M. era!!
My favourite metal band, with Symphony X. Prog Rules!
Even as a teen i could tell these guyz had true talent as musicians...the vocals were fucking awesome...the guitar riffs were heavy and tricky...the drummer played with a weird broken rhythm that sounded different and unique...I scratch my head to this day as to why these clowns never made it real big like Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth...etc.
@calastiur Theres also this band out here in AZ called Vektor, they released an album recently. They aretechnical but they are still memorable. Like, even with the mad riff changes and complex song structure, you can still follow it cause it flows so well, and its all very memorable. i'd definitely reccomend giving them a listen.
WAY better than dream theater!
Forever you shall yield to me
ANARCHY DIVINE!
Holy crap. This is so Godlike.
i beg to differ diodude678 Queensryche is still one of my all time favorite bands their second cd does not topple an album such as operation mindcrime, I am also looking forward to getting their upcomming album "American Soldier"
so many great things has queensryche done
but this video isnt about queensryche it's about fate's warning so lets leave queensryche on their videos and Fate's warning on their shall we? :D
The riff at 0:31 is incredibly good.
I agree. And to make the differences within the prog-metal genre even clearer, check out the difference between for example these guys and Gojira, which also play prog-metal.
Great vocals. Epic band.
@calastiur Yeah, Awaken the Guardian was pretty much a pure power metal album with some thrashy-ness here and there, but No Exit really brought a lot of thrash influence as you said. Probably why I dig this album so much. Probably my favorite from them.
this is so.. horribly underrated.
Beginning of this song is still heavier then most stuff today
Great album....by far their best
Great song. FW had such a raw, aggressive sound at the time.
little bit!? this song rocks your socks off man!
@HarveyHenkelmann I remember reading a metal magazine when No Exit came out, where they kept harping on the Geoff Tate thing, especially the song "In A Word" (I couldn't hear it). Matheos's response: "I don't really agree with that. I honestly don't think "The Ivory Gate of Dreams" sounds anything like Queensryche".
Right on, Jimmy :-)
@calastiur thats the great thing about progressive metal they always switch there style up...bands like queensryche fates warning dream theatre every album has its own unique sound
There are alot of good Prog bands from Europe and USA. Try Pain of Salvation, Into Eternity, Meshuggah, Symphony X, Sun Caged, Spiral Architect, Orphaned Land, Blotted Science, Sikth, Evergrey, Pagan's Mind, Spastic Ink, Stride, Outworld, Vanden Plas......these are the ones I can remember from the top of my head now...
they perform next year on Keep It True as ARCH/MATHEOS, im my hometown! i fuckin love that festival!
a very good point
another good comparison would be "savatage" and "amorphis" granted they are very far apart in age but still I enjoy Savatage as I do Amorphis
Awesome stuff!
COOL SONG! Saw them open for Dream Theater once.
Seriously? That is awesome, your dad rocks hard!
true metal must live on!
i scoll down headbanging to come across your comment, funny shit, i agree... lol
@rocker66666666 listening to Fates from album to album can be a headtrip. They have somehow managed to sound so drastically different on their albums that it almost doesn't even sound like the same band.
Try a search on RUclips of "Without A Trace" (1985), "The Sorceress" (1986), "In A Word"(1988), and "Static Acts"(1989). You won't even believe it's the same band that accomplished all of that in 4 years.
The Parallels lineup is back together doing a few random shows.
Not quite... Ray was born in 1967, so he was already around 20 when he joined Fates. Frank Aresti was also born in '67....I believe he was the one that was around 17 when he joined Fates during the Spectre Tour.
I think you mean Mark Zonder? He played on a track as a guest artist for Redemption.
this record sounds badass
All the talk about thrash/speed metal underground revolution in the 80's,styles
like progressive metal(FATES WARNING),doom metal(ST.VITUS),crossover
thrash(D.R.I.),power metal(RUNNING WILD),traditional metal(MANILLA ROAD),
black metal(CELTIC FROST),death metal(POSSESSED)and even struggling
almost forgotten NWOBHM(HOLOCAUST) was also as much alive in the scene
as well.Slayer and Metallica would've shared the stage with bands like I just
mentioned before of course in the early days.
Real...Best singer..
Fates warning, opeth, meshuggah and symphony X are the lords of progressive metal
I wish Dream Theater had a strong singer like this guy.
Reminds me of Tony Harnells voice, Both are fucking GREAT!
I see what he's getting at. While they are rock, some of the stuff they were doing was pretty heavy. Listen to some of the stuff on Red. They actually did get pretty metally here and there for their time.
Best vocalist ever.
@calastiur Very true, i just enjoy the heaviness in this album, but i love the complexity of The Spectre Within, that album is amazing as well. I agree with you haha.
si igual fates son parte de las mejores bandas progrecivas-metal que tengo en mi coleccion y la era ray alder buenissima no cabe duda metal never dies si señor...¡¡go..acatlipa,mor,..¡¡¡a.n.d...y ya..¡¡¡¡
really good!!!
@ridethelightning209 Heavy: "Valley of the Dolls" and "Traveler In Time". Rock oriented: "Eye To Eye" and "Through Different Eyes". Weird: "At Fates Hands" and "Another Perfect Day". New age/world music: "Chasing Time" and "Wish".
Fates has done it all :-)
between the melody and savage riff
Dayummm!! This is HOT!
@motleycrue24 queensryche signed with a big label EMI, opening for big bands like iron maiden and going to japan. While fates warning signed with metal blade records, with no backing FW was doomed to playing small clubs in CT and on long island, but thats the way the fans liked it I guess. by the time FW really tried to break into mainstream it was too late. Pearl Jam and nirvana took over. thats just my take. but ivory gate of dreams my favorite song ever, can never get tired of it.
@PhoenixJasmine - I like John's albums better too. I do like their later stuff, but anything they did with Zimmerman was where the band peaked, musically. Awaken the Guardian is easily one of the Top 5 metal releases of the 80's.
I f*cking love his voice!