Life is simple. You see the title in the video. No click-baits, bs music, straight up content. You hear the exact same thing. You listen to this man attentively and you’re good.
Another great video :) although I'm far from a serious "tech guy" I am doing my first PC build for electronic music / home studio production, and I'm including a Samsung 970 Evo Plus with 1TB of storage as my main boot / daily apps drive plus a 6TB Western Digital Black HDD for main storage. I know "just enough" about computers, and have been alive for enough of the home PC generation, to just.. have my jaw drop at what we're able to put into our personal computers these days and how rapidly it has all evolved. Imagine NASA of the 1960s seeing these components we have! Just think, the entire US government's best computers, backed by millions and millions of federal funding, probably had less power than a few off-the-shelf components we can all buy for under $1000 and have delivered in 24 hours by Amazon Prime - with RUclips videos on high speed internet delivered for FREE to teach us how to put everything together. We truly live in an incredible, amazing time. Hope everyone reading this comment takes a moment to appreciate it :)
Great video, thanks! It's worth pointing out that the normal ssd drives are mostly empty, and have the same sized chips as in the M.2 drives, it's just the form factor that is different, and they have the advantage of an extra layer of protection from dust and accidental damage. The transfer speeds for M.2 can be much faster when using PCIe over SATA, depending on motherboard support.
God!!! so clean & clear ExplainingComputers. Thank you. Wish you were my maths & science teacher. So that I could have passed with better marks, which would have enable me for better job & buy a M.2 Nvme 2TB.
6:13 One simple detail that you've allowed to slip on your brilliant (as usual) presentation: That motherboard allows for the installation of 2242, 2260 or 2280 drives, and that is marked on the motherboard with the digits and the screw holes for mounting. I wish you were my teacher back in the 90s when there were no computer classes in Portugal yet for my age and we used to learn by gathering all the gang together and had fun opening someone's computer, messed up with the cables and fiddled up with the motherboard jumpers, hoping to get the thing running without burning. Trial and lots of errors but a chaotic fun way to learn anyway. Now in my 40s I watch your videos and recognize a good professional when I see one. Kudos for all your lifetime work, Sir!
Great, informative video. I did not understand that there were PCIE and SATA M.2 hard drives. I learned something new today that I'll use for a long time in the future. And as another user said, it's nice that you do a straight-forward video, no stupid music or other BS.
I'm amazed that you actually made this video without even having a PciE device to show, and without discussing or measuring the speed differences between the two M.2 for factors! A brave man end an early adopter! Time for an update methinks.
Well, its great that I amazed you. But it is not essential to have hardware available to discuss a concept and technology. :) As you imply, several years ago when I made this video, PCIe M.2 drives were far less common and far more expensive than they are today. I have mad ea more recent video showing NVMe drive speeds here: ruclips.net/video/kvHUVcgo8xY/видео.html
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks for your response, I have been having bad luck (?) with SSD's with two failing completely and irrecoverably within 6 months without so much as a hint of trouble before they did. They were not even particularly heavily used. It has shaken my confidence in the technology. Even your WD black video is now more than a year old - Have you any further recent experience or new technology information or recommendations to share on this topic?
My last video of this month is on QLC vs TLC SSDs, and tests out two of Samsung's latest EVO and QVO models. As you have discovered, SSDs can just fail. :(
i did a TON of reasearch before buying an m.2 and i still learned a lot from this video! i went directly from a 7200rpm HDD to a gen 3x4 m.2 and on my first boot up it blew my effing mind! i kept hitting restart just to marvel at the speed. now i just have to wait for the tech to advance a little more so that 1TB sata SSD prices begin to dip so i can transfer all of my games and other files onto one (of course by the time i will be able to afford that the tech will be so much better and i will feel like im lagging behind again...)
I remember when switching from a floppy disk to a hard disk sped up boot times too. Don't worry, software bloat and inefficient compilers will eventually slow things down again. What gives me some wry amusement is that fact that while operating systems now take up several gigabytes of disk space their error messages are as meaningless as ever to the actual user.
Wanna see something that'll REALLY blow your mind? I put two SATA III SSDs in my computer in a striped raid configuration. The thing boots so fast that I never see the Windows start screen unless it's applying updates.
@@PrinceAlberts Ooooo, now repeat that exercise with two PCIe NVMe SSDs (using a RAID controller that would allow the OS to boot from the RAID). I once designed a boot controller for a Nokia transceiver that reduced its boot time from 40 seconds down to 30 milliseconds (including full RAM tests). I had to include a "Reset Occurred" status in the logging else it would reboot so fast no one would notice.
ExplainingComputers : Thanks Sir ! ~ For explaining M.2 compared with traditional 2.5" SATA SSDs , plus your hands on tutorial on how to install a M.2 SSD onto a motherboard PCB , for use in a Desktop / Laptop computer ! Thanks Scarboro
God, I love this channel. No bullshit, just pure information. And best of all, no annoying, shreaking and obnoxious music made by a kid with his DJ app. Sir, thank you for explaining computers :D
Fyi, M.2 ssd's of any variety tend to become quite hot during operation so you need to be careful in how you handle these devices. Specifically it is not recommended to directly touch the surface of these devices with your fingers because there are residual oils on a person's skin that can become transferred onto the integrated circuits (chips) of the device resulting in "hot spots" or area's where the heat can become concentrated and not radiate away properly which can and often does result in poor performance and/or permanent damage to the device. Best if you use a new pair of latex gloves when installing, unless you can be careful enough not to touch the surface of the device with your fingers (hold the drive by the edges, the green part of the card) and don't touch the black "chips". It doesn't matter how much you wash your hands you can never get them so clean as to wash away these oils and salts which are constantly produced by your skin. Just wanted to add this little bit of info which is also true for computer memory and any sort of peripheral add on card. I didn't even mention that you should, just to be totally on the safe side, avoid touching the gold contacts because these oils can easily result damage to them and impede the electrical connection. Also you should wear a grounded wrist strap to avoid causing damage to the device from static electrical charges, etc. This video, though quite informative, can show a person enough bad habits to result in an unnecessary RMA situation, that is if you don't say enough to the vendor during the process to result in a totally voided warranty.... Most devices, these days, will arrive to the final consumer untouched by human hands. I will generally assume, however, that someone along the chain of custody has been careless and handled the device in an "unsafe" manner and use isopropyl or ethyl alcohol and a clean cotton cloth to clean the surfaces before installation as this situation can result in damage to these modern, hot running devices.
Strewth! I remember when I found a guy locally producing circuit boards for adding a massive new-tech 10 MEG hard drive to my then Z80 computer (initially Tape Storage). That was a real hoot back in those days... what, wow, 10 meg, jeez. Now I read this excellent presentation about current trends and hardware and will never stop being in awe of the speed of tech change these days. Boxes are becoming yesterdays hardware before one gets them out of the shop. Thank you for passing on the knowledge.
I see so much rubbish on RUclips but this is a really good video. Explained by someone in English that clearly knows what they are talking about. Well done, and keep up the good work Chris.
Izzie boot times aren't quicker on m.2 versus 2.5" SSD. the improvement has to do with initialization optimization included with newer UEFI. Using full UEFI mode with Windows 8.1/10 (or any supported O/S) is what helps.
Thanks for a excellent explanation of the M.2. technology. It hard to imagine how far secondary storage device technology has changed since the days of IDE and SCSI.
I've been wanting to upgrade my laptop's SSD drive since it has a free M.2 slot, but was really confused about different interfaces. This video clears up a lot for me. Thank you
technology is getting its sense, the M.2 SSD is an amazing thing uses less power, occupies very small space, zero noise and even more memory capacity this is great but i hope they will make it more small and big in its capacity, thank you for your video
A variety of lengths and widths, insertion into slots... this is gold. Subscribed. In all seriousness though: I needed this information and it’s very clear. Thanks.
I actually _like_ having the storage separate. Makes upgrades more convenient. Though, I suppose a M.2 drive being easily removable by just taking out a screw if the motherboard dies wouldn't be too bad. Still, the fact that dedicated drive bays are physically larger does allow more functionality to be fit in there, and there are lower limits to how small you can make certain devices. You're not going to fit a blu-ray drive into anything smaller than the 120mm diameter of the discs, after all. All this integration is a bit annoying, though. Really limiting how much you can control what's in your machine and forces you to make compromises ("If I want that network chip, I have to have this drive controller" sort of stuff). What would be better would be if the motherboard was just for supplying power and passing signals around, and the actual functionality, such as network, USB, SATA, etc was handled by dedicated cards. The form-factor of the M.2 drives could be great for all the little stuff that's built into the motherboard chipset now. USB, Ethernet, and SATA could be covered by mini PCIe cards and audio by a regular card, like it used to be back in the ISA and PCI days.
Small note this video missed which is still true even today is that not all PCIe SSD's they come in both 2 and 4 lane versions the former is only 16 Gb/s (2 lanes * 8 Gb/s/lane) also some motherboards that have multiple M.2 slots wont support 32 Gb/s if all of them are used or will only do so if certain PCIexpress slots are not used etc so do check both your drive and motherboard specs to be sure.
Hi you are a great person explaining on computer. I like seeing your video's. You teach people on computer and we learn from you. I am not a profession, I am green learning from your video. Thanks for your help. I hope that people would appreciate the work that you are doing
Another brilliant video. I am getting a lap top with M.2 PCIe and was told it was faster than SATA but didn't know why, and now I do now. Thank you. Fascinating thoughts also about the future of PCs, etc.
Spot on, no BS and clear concise information. Whoever gave a thumbs down for this video must be off dragging their knuckles as they go look for banana's!
Chris Thank you for the explanation of the M.2. This answers many questions, especially about the bus and speed changes. The evolution of computers as you know will be much about the end of the moving disk drive. This fills in many blanks I had in fully understanding how that technology will work. Thank you, sir, for all you do! Rich
Even though I already know what all of the devices you talk about are, their tech specs, advantages, disadvantages and optimal use cases; I really still enjoy your videos. Additionally, unlike many other channels, the people that follow you seem to be much nicer and more civil to each other. Thank you for the videos. :-D
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Just found your channel, I work in IT, and I can say I absolutely love the format of your videos, you explain things clearly and in perfect detail, keep up the great work!
Good Job.... very informative. I happen to think that these M2 boards could have been available shortly after the SSD's and SD's were released..... just to save the spinning rust drives from a total collapse they extended the development and release of M2 over the course of a decade.... Otherwise these M2 technology drives would have been available in 2007-ish.
Thank you very very much for this content. I’m just starting out exploring the possibility of being able to build my own computer and try and understand the complexities of doing it. Thank you for helping me gain confidence and knowledge.
I like the way you explain and get to the point. Al though for these tech one if you did it like your PCIE video where you gave people suggestions on how to configure their bios, aka the speed variants it would be a a bit better. Really loved your PCIE video. :D
Been into computers all my life, but screw it, I'm subscribing. Your stuff is excellent. Seriously, someone should be paying you to present. It's like Tomorrow's World but with actual information, rather than surface level entertainment.
Second video in your series that I've watched. Very informative. I am getting ready to buy a new laptop and am going with the 500 GB M.2 NVMe (PCIe) boot drive. (Along with a 1 TB HDD for extra storage) I have subscribed.
Thanks for the sub. If you've not seen it, you may find interesting this video that features a 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD being tested. Wow it is fast! ruclips.net/video/kvHUVcgo8xY/видео.html
It's amazing how large in capacity drives are become all the while reducing their overall physical size. This is something to watch out for in the future. I remember back in the 80s when Sir Clive Sinclair was talking about Wafer scale integration which was supposed to revolutionise the way we used computer memory chip into small wafers taking up far less space than their predecessors. I don't really know how far Sinclair got with that, however the way today's technology is going will lead to very exciting times.
@@t00by00zer No shit, I KNOW what the OP meant, that WHY I said: WTFC. The OP is a glib, shallow, pretentious douche-water-drinker. It's called accents, dialects or patois... People who expect everyone else to talk exactly like THEM are ignorant, arrogant and closed minded.
Thanks Chris!! The video explained a lot. Are M.2 SSDs able to RAID 0? Would that require a mother board with 2 M.2 slots? Do you recommend RAID 0 to run OS?
What is apparent is that motherboards are absorbing components that start off as external expansions. Sound used to be on a card. Disk drive interfaces, serial ports - everything used to be on a card. Nowdays some CPU's don't even require a dedicated videocard. With M.2 hard drives became an "on-board" component.
Thanks for the information although it brings up the seemingly eternal problem of obsolescence. I've got a ton of IDE drives, DDR2 sticks and mobo with obsolete CPU sockets. Every time I build a PC a new technology shows up. So what's a nerd to do?
Yussef Ibn la ahad If its on the shelf for purchase its already outdated. By the time a product hits the market whether its a complete computer or parts its already old LOL. For most people they'll never notice a difference in power from an older machine to a newer one because all they do is play on the internet with it so processor speed and RAM isn't that important, those who do video & audio processing is where you will notice a huge difference.
Did you even wear a antistatic wrist strap ? i can see there is no static free cloth the items are laying on. Was the anti static stuff just a gimmick to sell useless crap? My friend just tossed computer parts in a carboard box and most that stuff still works years later. I try to use my wrist strap though.
I am always grounded with a wrist strap, but no longer show it on camera due the plethora of negative comments wearing one -- and talking about the use of one -- generates. Usually you will get away without one fine. But when I have paid for the components, I wear one! :)
@@peterknutsen3070 That is good, it works 95% of the time. But getting proper grounded is the best and safest way. But i never had problems. Also check if you floot is laminated and you walk on socks. Then you can build up static very easy.
Video states we'll eventually have multi-terrabyte M.2 SSDs. We already have those. Samsung 960 Pro, which is the fastest consumer SSD right now is available in 2TB size in the 2280 M.2 form factor. It was released in September.
It is ridiculous the alphabet soup computer users still have to endure. _Back in my day_, users had to concern themselves with which ATAPI IDE HDD to get, and in my time anything more than 120GB was enterprise-grade. Nowdays users have to concern themselves with M.2 or U.2, PCIe or SATA, and whether it has NVMe capability. So in the future a top-tier media device would be a U.2 PCIe NVMe SSD. Later on it might be referred to as a U.2 PCIe 5.0 NVMe 2.0 SSD because everything gets revised and upgraded every so often. I mean, I understand what all the magical acronyms mean, but you'd think the nerds behind this guff would figure out a more clever naming schema that doesn't look like some password to your personal affects.
Worse yet were when the largest hard drive was 1GB, everyone that bought one said oh that will last me forever now you can't even get a computer setup with 1GB of hard disc space LOL. I have a desktop computer hard drive that is 120MB, its a 3.5" drive and although it still works people would throw the computer because it takes forever to get software to load in that old drive combined with the slow processor speed of that old machine LOL.
WTF?? U.2 PCIe 5.0 NVMe 2.0 SSD, what tha hell is NVMe, I missed that whatever it is, and I thought I was keeping up with the PC evolution at a steady pace.... holy crap u need to be a robot to keep up with computers these days. Damnit!
Non-volatile memory express might be in revision 3 by the time personal computer interface express moves on from 4.0 to 5.0; PCIe at the moment is in its fourth major revision. But basically speaking, NVMe is a standard for direct attachment of media to the PCI bus. If you have an NVMe-capable M.2 or U.2 device, it'll communicate over PCI, and if not, it'll use SATA instead. If the motherboard isn't NVMe-capable at all, you're forced to use adapters like the ASUS RevoDrive, or a dedicated PCIe-attached solution (which would also allow you to add more NVMe drives to an NVMe board if they use M.2) but that doesn't mean you'll magically gain all the benefit NVMe has to offer because you won't be able to boot off the damn thing; you're still limited to 6GB / s for your OS. The only way to make that work without drastic VM solutions like using Win10 Pro's Windows On-The-Go or a Linux system is to move a lot of your boot files over to PCI-attached or PCI-communicated storage, but the system still boots from SATA and the bother of symlinking every little bit of the system outside of Windows might not even provide you with the full benefit of NVMe-capable hardware.
Instead of complaining, how about you share a brief synopsis with us right here in the comments section? Making videos like this one takes time and effort. If you're not happy, set up your own channel. You could call it "Complaining Computers."
Electric Earth Not sure who you're talking to, but I wasn't complaining, just asking if he'd do another one of his great videos explaining a confusing concept.
Hmmmm...I was talking to Hmmmm... He clearly knows about NVMe, so why not share some knowledge? If a video doesn't comprehensively cover the topic or is unclear, many people such as myself read the comment section for more info. Hmmmm... provides none.... Hmmmm...
Thank you very much. Listened carefull for 6:16 minutes, when you git to physical mounting SATA 2280, I was 5" from my 15" monitor. It's not exactly intuitive whether it's green side up or not. My first assembly, Raspberry Pi mini Tower Desktop Ubuntu Mat`e, of any computer in 20 years. Was surprised the image of Ubuntu Mat`e didn't recognize git from got. I'm at my wit's end. Disk Mounting widgit says nothing to mount. Neither fdisk -l, nor gParted showed an installed SSD.🥴 That upward spring of SATA board is a sure tell tale sign its mounted right. I didn't just get what I came for and leave, I stayed for the entire show. Highly agree on the advancements the M.2 form factor, it is a game changer. Very educational thoughout.' Purchased a UPS, for Pi 4B 4GB, with 4000mA Lithium battery. It and replacement were returned to sender, "not as described", they flat didn't work. 2nd one powered the Pi4 less than an hour and quit, while on a charger. Just killing the power is a No No with Pi as it is constantly accessing micro SDHC; and, hence my need for UPS. Product mini-box carried a label. A specific printed attribute was the presence on the back of the unit a swatch of nano material. Is that size enough to make a pointed notation of. My eyes must have changed to bionic; I could see that shiny sheen and simply couldn't help myself, while pulling that thin film off the double sided tape .
OMG I learn so much from your excellent videos. There was I naively thinking M.2 were automatically several times faster than their drive bay SSD cousins. I think I know what to look out for, now. Thank you again. The moral of the story has to be to check EC before buying anything!
Great to hear this. So many people fall into the trap of not realizing that there are SATA M.2 SSDs, and PCIe (NVMe) drives in other form-factors. You may like my updated video here: ruclips.net/video/kvHUVcgo8xY/видео.html
here is the thing, M.2 SSDs are non-archivable, the standar HDD will be around for a long time with multi-petabyte capacity by 2040. With standard HDDs being achievable they work in 98% of the servers around the world.
ChapstickPremonitions it means they can't be used in a achieving situation, like in a file server. M.2 and SATA (Serial ATA) SSDs only have a limited IOPs (Read/Write cycles) and HDDs are not limited in Read/Writes, but in hours, the typical 3.5" hard disk is rated around 20 million hours (i think) and when it makes an audible squeaking, back up any personal information to a external drive or to a flash stick and replace the failing hard disk.
What? No, they are just like normal SSD drives, just in a smaller form factor, and possibly with a faster PCIe interface. They require no power for long term storage. More likely, as with any tech, the issue will become having a correct interface in the distant future as M.2 gets replaced with M.3, M.4 or whatever. In that regard, a well-used USB3 interface flashdrive or SATA drive will probably be more useful for very long term storage (10s of years).
My last computer dated back to 2009 and to this day is still working despite integration issues with today's technology, because of this, I recently purchased a premium i7, 16 GB, 4K ultrabook and I knew it had m.2 but I had no idea what was meant by that, but now I do. :) Excellent video. Very simple to understand and well filmed. Thanks for helping to bring me up to date with today's tech! Oh Boy, have hard drives evolved!
This channel is far better than Linus' channels. No annoying overacting just raw information. Thanks a lot for all the information.
This is the best explanation of M.2 technology I’ve seen. Well done.
I totally agree because I just put one in my computer.
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Life is simple.
You see the title in the video. No click-baits, bs music, straight up content.
You hear the exact same thing. You listen to this man attentively and you’re good.
>I see old man explaining computers,
>I sit and listen quietly
Chris is a young man!
@@ozmobozo how old
holy sh*t nevermind hes 54 years old.
He's middle aged not old.
You deserve a million subs
Thanks! :)
Naif he deserves even more than that.
like 10 milion.
LapisSea by quality of content
LapisSea why shouldn't Zombie Hitler have a popular channel? Obviously at least nein subscribers....
Another great video :) although I'm far from a serious "tech guy" I am doing my first PC build for electronic music / home studio production, and I'm including a Samsung 970 Evo Plus with 1TB of storage as my main boot / daily apps drive plus a 6TB Western Digital Black HDD for main storage.
I know "just enough" about computers, and have been alive for enough of the home PC generation, to just.. have my jaw drop at what we're able to put into our personal computers these days and how rapidly it has all evolved.
Imagine NASA of the 1960s seeing these components we have! Just think, the entire US government's best computers, backed by millions and millions of federal funding, probably had less power than a few off-the-shelf components we can all buy for under $1000 and have delivered in 24 hours by Amazon Prime - with RUclips videos on high speed internet delivered for FREE to teach us how to put everything together. We truly live in an incredible, amazing time. Hope everyone reading this comment takes a moment to appreciate it :)
I just appreciated it by reading this :)
I like the clear, rock-solid video and clear well-pronounced audio with no distractions. I subscribed. Well done!
Thanks for the sub -- welcome aboard!
Probably the best channel on RUclips, clear presentation, no silly loud background music, clear graphics, accurate information.
Thanks.
Great video, thanks! It's worth pointing out that the normal ssd drives are mostly empty, and have the same sized chips as in the M.2 drives, it's just the form factor that is different, and they have the advantage of an extra layer of protection from dust and accidental damage. The transfer speeds for M.2 can be much faster when using PCIe over SATA, depending on motherboard support.
God!!! so clean & clear ExplainingComputers. Thank you. Wish you were my maths & science teacher. So that I could have passed with better marks, which would have enable me for better job & buy a M.2 Nvme 2TB.
Probably the best explanation of M.2 SSDs. No BS. Clear, straightforward and to the point. Good quality video as well. Well done!
6:13 One simple detail that you've allowed to slip on your brilliant (as usual) presentation:
That motherboard allows for the installation of 2242, 2260 or 2280 drives, and that is marked on the motherboard with the digits and the screw holes for mounting.
I wish you were my teacher back in the 90s when there were no computer classes in Portugal yet for my age and we used to learn by gathering all the gang together and had fun opening someone's computer, messed up with the cables and fiddled up with the motherboard jumpers, hoping to get the thing running without burning.
Trial and lots of errors but a chaotic fun way to learn anyway.
Now in my 40s I watch your videos and recognize a good professional when I see one. Kudos for all your lifetime work, Sir!
This is like an old BBC program.
Philson when i first saw his videos i thought it published back in 2007-8! Lol
Microlive or Tomorrow's World lol
Open University style. It's good lol.
We'd all learn a lot more if all how-to videos were as clear as this!
😂😂😂 & this host too
Great, informative video. I did not understand that there were PCIE and SATA M.2 hard drives. I learned something new today that I'll use for a long time in the future. And as another user said, it's nice that you do a straight-forward video, no stupid music or other BS.
I'm amazed that you actually made this video without even having a PciE device to show, and without discussing or measuring the speed differences between the two M.2 for factors! A brave man end an early adopter! Time for an update methinks.
Well, its great that I amazed you. But it is not essential to have hardware available to discuss a concept and technology. :) As you imply, several years ago when I made this video, PCIe M.2 drives were far less common and far more expensive than they are today. I have mad ea more recent video showing NVMe drive speeds here: ruclips.net/video/kvHUVcgo8xY/видео.html
@@ExplainingComputers Thanks for your response, I have been having bad luck (?) with SSD's with two failing completely and irrecoverably within 6 months without so much as a hint of trouble before they did. They were not even particularly heavily used. It has shaken my confidence in the technology. Even your WD black video is now more than a year old - Have you any further recent experience or new technology information or recommendations to share on this topic?
My last video of this month is on QLC vs TLC SSDs, and tests out two of Samsung's latest EVO and QVO models. As you have discovered, SSDs can just fail. :(
You're so gentle with hardware man!
Thanks
i did a TON of reasearch before buying an m.2 and i still learned a lot from this video! i went directly from a 7200rpm HDD to a gen 3x4 m.2 and on my first boot up it blew my effing mind! i kept hitting restart just to marvel at the speed. now i just have to wait for the tech to advance a little more so that 1TB sata SSD prices begin to dip so i can transfer all of my games and other files onto one (of course by the time i will be able to afford that the tech will be so much better and i will feel like im lagging behind again...)
Great story -- that was quite an upgrade, so the changing in boot speed must have been amazing! :)
I remember when switching from a floppy disk to a hard disk sped up boot times too. Don't worry, software bloat and inefficient compilers will eventually slow things down again.
What gives me some wry amusement is that fact that while operating systems now take up several gigabytes of disk space their error messages are as meaningless as ever to the actual user.
Wanna see something that'll REALLY blow your mind? I put two SATA III SSDs in my computer in a striped raid configuration. The thing boots so fast that I never see the Windows start screen unless it's applying updates.
@@PrinceAlberts Ooooo, now repeat that exercise with two PCIe NVMe SSDs (using a RAID controller that would allow the OS to boot from the RAID). I once designed a boot controller for a Nokia transceiver that reduced its boot time from 40 seconds down to 30 milliseconds (including full RAM tests). I had to include a "Reset Occurred" status in the logging else it would reboot so fast no one would notice.
Chris Brisson: That sounds amazing! I wish I had the money to do it.
ExplainingComputers : Thanks Sir ! ~ For explaining M.2 compared with traditional 2.5" SATA SSDs , plus your hands on tutorial on how to install a M.2 SSD onto a motherboard PCB , for use in a Desktop / Laptop computer ! Thanks Scarboro
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This is the best video explaining PC tech. Straight to the point
Thanks.
God, I love this channel.
No bullshit, just pure information. And best of all, no annoying, shreaking and obnoxious music made by a kid with his DJ app.
Sir, thank you for explaining computers :D
I enjoyed the entire presentation; very informative and interesting--I hope to see more from you soon!
You are an excellent teacher. Well done. THANKS.
Wow when simple well narrated video on a rather complicated subject makes sense to wide audience. Subscribed instantly!
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Powerful! Just bought a laptop with a missing M.2 and my technological expertise only goes as far as SSD. Thanks!
Love when people have original normal human outros that you remember and don't get tired of
Fyi, M.2 ssd's of any variety tend to become quite hot during operation so you need to be careful in how you handle these devices. Specifically it is not recommended to directly touch the surface of these devices with your fingers because there are residual oils on a person's skin that can become transferred onto the integrated circuits (chips) of the device resulting in "hot spots" or area's where the heat can become concentrated and not radiate away properly which can and often does result in poor performance and/or permanent damage to the device. Best if you use a new pair of latex gloves when installing, unless you can be careful enough not to touch the surface of the device with your fingers (hold the drive by the edges, the green part of the card) and don't touch the black "chips". It doesn't matter how much you wash your hands you can never get them so clean as to wash away these oils and salts which are constantly produced by your skin. Just wanted to add this little bit of info which is also true for computer memory and any sort of peripheral add on card. I didn't even mention that you should, just to be totally on the safe side, avoid touching the gold contacts because these oils can easily result damage to them and impede the electrical connection. Also you should wear a grounded wrist strap to avoid causing damage to the device from static electrical charges, etc. This video, though quite informative, can show a person enough bad habits to result in an unnecessary RMA situation, that is if you don't say enough to the vendor during the process to result in a totally voided warranty.... Most devices, these days, will arrive to the final consumer untouched by human hands. I will generally assume, however, that someone along the chain of custody has been careless and handled the device in an "unsafe" manner and use isopropyl or ethyl alcohol and a clean cotton cloth to clean the surfaces before installation as this situation can result in damage to these modern, hot running devices.
Strewth! I remember when I found a guy locally producing circuit boards for adding a massive new-tech 10 MEG hard drive to my then Z80 computer (initially Tape Storage). That was a real hoot back in those days... what, wow, 10 meg, jeez. Now I read this excellent presentation about current trends and hardware and will never stop being in awe of the speed of tech change these days. Boxes are becoming yesterdays hardware before one gets them out of the shop. Thank you for passing on the knowledge.
The speed of progress in tech is indeed amazing.
I see so much rubbish on RUclips but this is a really good video. Explained by someone in English that clearly knows what they are talking about. Well done, and keep up the good work Chris.
Thanks.
My laptop has an M.2 SSD and boots up amazingly quickly, even compared to a previous 2.5" SSD. Definitely worth any extra cost.
Izzie boot times aren't quicker on m.2 versus 2.5" SSD. the improvement has to do with initialization optimization included with newer UEFI. Using full UEFI mode with Windows 8.1/10 (or any supported O/S) is what helps.
I learned a lot, thanks John Lennon!
With lips like that, I'd have said, John Lemmon!
Thanks for a excellent explanation of the M.2. technology. It hard to imagine how far secondary storage device technology has changed since the days of IDE and SCSI.
I've been wanting to upgrade my laptop's SSD drive since it has a free M.2 slot, but was really confused about different interfaces. This video clears up a lot for me. Thank you
Finally, someone cleared up my confusion. Thank you!
technology is getting its sense, the M.2 SSD is an amazing thing uses less power, occupies very small space, zero noise and even more memory capacity this is great but i hope they will make it more small and big in its capacity, thank you for your video
These things just amaze me, not because of the speed. But on how you can make 'em blend in with your motherboard and sometimes forget it's ever there.
A variety of lengths and widths, insertion into slots... this is gold. Subscribed. In all seriousness though: I needed this information and it’s very clear. Thanks.
Imagine while you're installing it it slips and falls into the abyss from which only the great knight Artorias returned...
I shudder to think of it.
I actually _like_ having the storage separate. Makes upgrades more convenient. Though, I suppose a M.2 drive being easily removable by just taking out a screw if the motherboard dies wouldn't be too bad. Still, the fact that dedicated drive bays are physically larger does allow more functionality to be fit in there, and there are lower limits to how small you can make certain devices. You're not going to fit a blu-ray drive into anything smaller than the 120mm diameter of the discs, after all.
All this integration is a bit annoying, though. Really limiting how much you can control what's in your machine and forces you to make compromises ("If I want that network chip, I have to have this drive controller" sort of stuff). What would be better would be if the motherboard was just for supplying power and passing signals around, and the actual functionality, such as network, USB, SATA, etc was handled by dedicated cards. The form-factor of the M.2 drives could be great for all the little stuff that's built into the motherboard chipset now. USB, Ethernet, and SATA could be covered by mini PCIe cards and audio by a regular card, like it used to be back in the ISA and PCI days.
I understood everything that was not well explained on other channels and web pages with this video alone... Great work!
Man you are the best computer geek. Old school style videos, very informative!
You are really good at explaining things! Thanks for the videos!
Small note this video missed which is still true even today is that not all PCIe SSD's they come in both 2 and 4 lane versions the former is only 16 Gb/s (2 lanes * 8 Gb/s/lane) also some motherboards that have multiple M.2 slots wont support 32 Gb/s if all of them are used or will only do so if certain PCIexpress slots are not used etc so do check both your drive and motherboard specs to be sure.
Hi you are a great person explaining on computer. I like seeing your video's. You teach people on computer and we learn from you. I am not a profession, I am green learning from your video. Thanks for your help. I hope that people would appreciate the work that you are doing
Another brilliant video. I am getting a lap top with M.2 PCIe and was told it was faster than SATA but didn't know why, and now I do now. Thank you. Fascinating thoughts also about the future of PCs, etc.
Spot on, no BS and clear concise information. Whoever gave a thumbs down for this video must be off dragging their knuckles as they go look for banana's!
Thanks for the informative video
Now that you have covered the m.2 drive, do you have plan to cover nvme drive or comparison video?
I may indeed do this at some point. So many new standards!
Can you install kali on the little panda computer??
ExplainingComputers I'm looking forward for that :)
Also, would you explains the pinouts for each type? So that we might understand it better
Antonius Kelvin Kurniawan good idea
Chris
Thank you for the explanation of the M.2. This answers many questions, especially about the bus and speed changes. The evolution of computers as you know will be much about the end of the moving disk drive. This fills in many blanks I had in fully understanding how that technology will work.
Thank you, sir, for all you do!
Rich
Thanks Rich. :)
Excellent explanation. Straight up data with no blah blah about history of disk drives.
Computer with sata ssd: "ZOOOOMM!!!"
Pc enthusiasts :"NO!! , IT MUST BE FASTER!!!!"
I have one laying around, I really need to buy one of those adapter cards, my MoBo doesn't have any m.2 ports! :(
Even though I already know what all of the devices you talk about are, their tech specs, advantages, disadvantages and optimal use cases; I really still enjoy your videos. Additionally, unlike many other channels, the people that follow you seem to be much nicer and more civil to each other. Thank you for the videos. :-D
OK ! That Did It ! I Will Bite At Your Bait ! I Am Calling You Too Dang Nice & Challenge You To Ice Cream Contest At High Noon ! Is That Too Violent For This Channel ?
Just found your channel, I work in IT, and I can say I absolutely love the format of your videos, you explain things clearly and in perfect detail, keep up the great work!
Thanks.
God damn it, I love this channel.
Good Job.... very informative. I happen to think that these M2 boards could have been available shortly after the SSD's and SD's were released..... just to save the spinning rust drives from a total collapse they extended the development and release of M2 over the course of a decade.... Otherwise these M2 technology drives would have been available in 2007-ish.
Thank you very very much for this content. I’m just starting out exploring the possibility of being able to build my own computer and try and understand the complexities of doing it. Thank you for helping me gain confidence and knowledge.
I like the way you explain and get to the point. Al though for these tech one if you did it like your PCIE video where you gave people suggestions on how to configure their bios, aka the speed variants it would be a a bit better. Really loved your PCIE video. :D
Thanks for this. I do have a BIOS video: ruclips.net/video/ezubjTO7rRI/видео.html
good info, well presented. Thanks.
It's like watching a documentary
Thanks! That is my intention. :)
Maybe John will adopt the Irwin approach, that would make him superstar status.
Very informative, a great source for someone who is trying to pass the comptia A+ certification.
Another great video. Thanks Chris for making all the terminology so clear.
Participation medal goes to me!
And a good medal to have that is. :)
great video as always
What a great vid explaining how it works. Do love how simple and straight to the point you are... THUMBS UP!!!
Thanks.
As always, your descriptions are 100% correct, and 100% helpful. thank you.
Excellent video. I didn't read all 837 comments but whoever decided to use those teeny, tiny screws to hold them in place needs to be severely beaten.
Question : What is the Compared Durability of an SSD SATA vs the M.2 ?
They should be the same for the same drive specs -- the flash memory chips and controllers will be pretty much the same, or identical.
And yet in 2020, this news just touch me for the first time.
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Been into computers all my life, but screw it, I'm subscribing. Your stuff is excellent. Seriously, someone should be paying you to present. It's like Tomorrow's World but with actual information, rather than surface level entertainment.
Thanks for the sub -- welcome aboard!
Great video explaining the technology
THanks.
Great info. thanks.
Professional the way it should be. You've earned a another Subscriber here.
Thanks. Welcome aboard!
Excellent explanation, no music, I understand m.2 now. Thanks
141k subs!!!!!!! looking forward to 150k the 200k then a huge jump to 1m subs!!! great I subscribed you when you are at only 35k nice progress
Thanks for this. It is indeed nice to watch the channel continue to grow.
Imagine such a vid in 2036, have to use a quantum microscope to explain the differences
Thanks for this, building a new PC on a website and it asked about a M.2 SSD Drive so i wondered what it was
Second video in your series that I've watched. Very informative. I am getting ready to buy a new laptop and am going with the 500 GB M.2 NVMe (PCIe) boot drive. (Along with a 1 TB HDD for extra storage) I have subscribed.
Thanks for the sub. If you've not seen it, you may find interesting this video that features a 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD being tested. Wow it is fast! ruclips.net/video/kvHUVcgo8xY/видео.html
Excelent video and explanation
We need to fit one of these on a raspberry pi!😂😂
We do. So far M.2 SSDs are limited to SBCs like an UDOOx86 AP and a HiKey 960. I will be covering such issues in more depth in two weeks time. :)
I love your videos. It makes me travel back in time to the 90s. I don't know why I feel this way lol
It's amazing how large in capacity drives are become all the while reducing their overall physical size. This is something to watch out for in the future. I remember back in the 80s when Sir Clive Sinclair was talking about Wafer scale integration which was supposed to revolutionise the way we used computer memory chip into small wafers taking up far less space than their predecessors. I don't really know how far Sinclair got with that, however the way today's technology is going will lead to very exciting times.
Thanks for not saying 'SATER" like some people.
WTFC?
@@skandababy you know, like some people say "warshing" instead of "washing"
@@t00by00zer No shit, I KNOW what the OP meant, that WHY I said: WTFC. The OP is a glib, shallow, pretentious douche-water-drinker.
It's called accents, dialects or patois... People who expect everyone else to talk exactly like THEM are ignorant, arrogant and closed minded.
do you mean sayter? Or satar? Clearly it's pronounced sata. ;)
Awesome video!! Please do a video on RAID!!! :)
I have a RAID video here: ruclips.net/video/flOhCU0sgvQ/видео.html
Thanks Chris!! The video explained a lot. Are M.2 SSDs able to RAID 0? Would that require a mother board with 2 M.2 slots? Do you recommend RAID 0 to run OS?
If the Mobo has more than one M.2 slot, you use IRST (Intel Rapid Storage Technology) to RAID them. I would personally not recommend RAID 0 at all.
What is apparent is that motherboards are absorbing components that start off as external expansions. Sound used to be on a card. Disk drive interfaces, serial ports - everything used to be on a card. Nowdays some CPU's don't even require a dedicated videocard. With M.2 hard drives became an "on-board" component.
This is exactly what I needed to understand
Thanks. I have found M.2 a bit confusing.
Thanks for the information although it brings up the seemingly eternal problem of obsolescence. I've got a ton of IDE drives, DDR2 sticks and mobo with obsolete CPU sockets. Every time I build a PC a new technology shows up. So what's a nerd to do?
Yes, agreed!
Buy a new computer? LOL. Wait, by the time you buy the stuff to build that fancy new high speed computer, alas its already old technology HAHA!!!!
if you build a computers every 10 years yeah... but thumbs down cause technology won't wait for your slowness
Yussef Ibn la ahad If its on the shelf for purchase its already outdated. By the time a product hits the market whether its a complete computer or parts its already old LOL. For most people they'll never notice a difference in power from an older machine to a newer one because all they do is play on the internet with it so processor speed and RAM isn't that important, those who do video & audio processing is where you will notice a huge difference.
my new discovery science channel...
no puns... no too much segways...
he does it old school english accent......
which is great...
I have been following you for a very long time. As usual, very informative and concise information. Infinite Thanks for sharing!!!
Did you even wear a antistatic wrist strap ? i can see there is no static free cloth the items are laying on. Was the anti static stuff just a gimmick to sell useless crap? My friend just tossed computer parts in a carboard box and most that stuff still works years later. I try to use my wrist strap though.
I am always grounded with a wrist strap, but no longer show it on camera due the plethora of negative comments wearing one -- and talking about the use of one -- generates. Usually you will get away without one fine. But when I have paid for the components, I wear one! :)
You can ground yourself by touching metal before handeling the components.
thearchiveable
I just touch the radiator in my apartment.
@@peterknutsen3070 That is good, it works 95% of the time. But getting proper grounded is the best and safest way. But i never had problems. Also check if you floot is laminated and you walk on socks. Then you can build up static very easy.
thank you
That's, the video I was loooooooooking for!. To the point ,well explained ,someone out here is doing a nice job .BIG THUMB UP.
Video states we'll eventually have multi-terrabyte M.2 SSDs. We already have those. Samsung 960 Pro, which is the fastest consumer SSD right now is available in 2TB size in the 2280 M.2 form factor. It was released in September.
It is ridiculous the alphabet soup computer users still have to endure. _Back in my day_, users had to concern themselves with which ATAPI IDE HDD to get, and in my time anything more than 120GB was enterprise-grade. Nowdays users have to concern themselves with M.2 or U.2, PCIe or SATA, and whether it has NVMe capability. So in the future a top-tier media device would be a U.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.
Later on it might be referred to as a U.2 PCIe 5.0 NVMe 2.0 SSD because everything gets revised and upgraded every so often. I mean, I understand what all the magical acronyms mean, but you'd think the nerds behind this guff would figure out a more clever naming schema that doesn't look like some password to your personal affects.
Oh I so totally agree!
Worse yet were when the largest hard drive was 1GB, everyone that bought one said oh that will last me forever now you can't even get a computer setup with 1GB of hard disc space LOL. I have a desktop computer hard drive that is 120MB, its a 3.5" drive and although it still works people would throw the computer because it takes forever to get software to load in that old drive combined with the slow processor speed of that old machine LOL.
WTF?? U.2 PCIe 5.0 NVMe 2.0 SSD, what tha hell is NVMe, I missed that whatever it is, and I thought I was keeping up with the PC evolution at a steady pace.... holy crap u need to be a robot to keep up with computers these days. Damnit!
It's getting a little ridiculous, isn't it? So much for standards.
Non-volatile memory express might be in revision 3 by the time personal computer interface express moves on from 4.0 to 5.0; PCIe at the moment is in its fourth major revision.
But basically speaking, NVMe is a standard for direct attachment of media to the PCI bus. If you have an NVMe-capable M.2 or U.2 device, it'll communicate over PCI, and if not, it'll use SATA instead. If the motherboard isn't NVMe-capable at all, you're forced to use adapters like the ASUS RevoDrive, or a dedicated PCIe-attached solution (which would also allow you to add more NVMe drives to an NVMe board if they use M.2) but that doesn't mean you'll magically gain all the benefit NVMe has to offer because you won't be able to boot off the damn thing; you're still limited to 6GB / s for your OS.
The only way to make that work without drastic VM solutions like using Win10 Pro's Windows On-The-Go or a Linux system is to move a lot of your boot files over to PCI-attached or PCI-communicated storage, but the system still boots from SATA and the bother of symlinking every little bit of the system outside of Windows might not even provide you with the full benefit of NVMe-capable hardware.
completely missed important information about NVMe and the huge step in increased speed over AHCI, the compatibility and bios configuration.
I always have to decide how much to cover in a single video! :)
Are you gonna do another video for NVMe and U.2 ? It's very confusing!
Instead of complaining, how about you share a brief synopsis with us right here in the comments section? Making videos like this one takes time and effort. If you're not happy, set up your own channel. You could call it "Complaining Computers."
Electric Earth Not sure who you're talking to, but I wasn't complaining, just asking if he'd do another one of his great videos explaining a confusing concept.
Hmmmm...I was talking to Hmmmm...
He clearly knows about NVMe, so why not share some knowledge? If a video doesn't comprehensively cover the topic or is unclear, many people such as myself read the comment section for more info. Hmmmm... provides none....
Hmmmm...
Thank you very much. Listened carefull for 6:16 minutes, when you git to physical mounting SATA 2280, I was 5" from my 15" monitor. It's not exactly intuitive whether it's green side up or not. My first assembly, Raspberry Pi mini Tower Desktop Ubuntu Mat`e, of any computer in 20 years. Was surprised the image of Ubuntu Mat`e didn't recognize git from got.
I'm at my wit's end. Disk Mounting widgit says nothing to mount. Neither fdisk -l, nor gParted showed an installed SSD.🥴 That upward spring of SATA board is a sure tell tale sign its mounted right.
I didn't just get what I came for and leave, I stayed for the entire show. Highly agree on the advancements the M.2 form factor, it is a game changer. Very educational thoughout.'
Purchased a UPS, for Pi 4B 4GB, with 4000mA Lithium battery. It and replacement were returned to sender, "not as described", they flat didn't work. 2nd one powered the Pi4 less than an hour and quit, while on a charger. Just killing the power is a No No with Pi as it is constantly accessing micro SDHC; and, hence my need for UPS. Product mini-box carried a label. A specific printed attribute was the presence on the back of the unit a swatch of nano material. Is that size enough to make a pointed notation of. My eyes must have changed to bionic; I could see that shiny sheen and simply couldn't help myself, while pulling that thin film off the double sided tape .
OMG I learn so much from your excellent videos. There was I naively thinking M.2 were automatically several times faster than their drive bay SSD cousins. I think I know what to look out for, now. Thank you again. The moral of the story has to be to check EC before buying anything!
Great to hear this. So many people fall into the trap of not realizing that there are SATA M.2 SSDs, and PCIe (NVMe) drives in other form-factors. You may like my updated video here: ruclips.net/video/kvHUVcgo8xY/видео.html
here is the thing, M.2 SSDs are non-archivable, the standar HDD will be around for a long time with multi-petabyte capacity by 2040. With standard HDDs being achievable they work in 98% of the servers around the world.
What do you mean, "non-archivable"?
ChapstickPremonitions it means they can't be used in a achieving situation, like in a file server. M.2 and SATA (Serial ATA) SSDs only have a limited IOPs (Read/Write cycles) and HDDs are not limited in Read/Writes, but in hours, the typical 3.5" hard disk is rated around 20 million hours (i think) and when it makes an audible squeaking, back up any personal information to a external drive or to a flash stick and replace the failing hard disk.
Jeff Jr O. you turn them off you lose your data
What? No, they are just like normal SSD drives, just in a smaller form factor, and possibly with a faster PCIe interface. They require no power for long term storage. More likely, as with any tech, the issue will become having a correct interface in the distant future as M.2 gets replaced with M.3, M.4 or whatever. In that regard, a well-used USB3 interface flashdrive or SATA drive will probably be more useful for very long term storage (10s of years).
SSDs will loose their data after not being powered for a few years
Very good video!! 2280 thumbs up! :)
Why not 22110?
You are just so good at explaining Computers! Brilliant vid!
Many thanks! :)
My last computer dated back to 2009 and to this day is still working despite integration issues with today's technology, because of this, I recently purchased a premium i7, 16 GB, 4K ultrabook and I knew it had m.2 but I had no idea what was meant by that, but now I do. :) Excellent video. Very simple to understand and well filmed. Thanks for helping to bring me up to date with today's tech! Oh Boy, have hard drives evolved!