Repowering a Junk Skid Steer With The Wrong Engine,
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2024
- I bought this early 80s bobcat skid steer that was in non running condition, that was my 1st mistake then we found out it had already been repowered with a too small engine, now its our turn to put a bigger wrong engine in it. what problems could that cause?
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Favorite thing about Sunday morning… having a cup of coffee or two and watching Mustie fix something. What a weird life we live.
You mean a good life we live!
Mustie Sundays is what I live the week for
I always enjoy on a quite Sunday early afternoon ! His knowledge and mindset is always interesting and live that he's real about when he makes a mistake and explains how he is going to fix it! Great Series !
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Yup even here in the middle of the Pacific Ocean (Hawaii) enjoying “THE ADVENTURES OF MUSTIE”!!!😂😎💯🤙🏼
I’ve been a faithful fan since the early days in the 1 car rickety garage. Glad to see big time Mustie still drops his sharpie in the drip pan like all of us! That’s why people still watch him 13 years into his run. Thanks!
I’ve been watching this series and as a bobcat mechanic I’ve found it rather interesting. Just watch that the engine doesn’t overheat. One of the main reasons bobcat engineers put the radiator up top was for maximum airflow to help with cooling. Your radiator cooling is being blocked by the door.. those cutouts aren’t nearly enough to keep the engine compartment cool. Hydraulic oil, especially in summer, with full running gets very hot..it’s like an oven in that engine bay. Just watch your temps for overheating..take care.
Instead of 1 inch holes, maybe cut out that section of the door and put a grille in it? And the hydraulic oil radiator on top will either need its own electric fan or will need to be relocated where the main fan will blow directly through it. There is not much flow through it just because there is a fan pulling air into the engine bay.
@@JacobMi Good idea if the grill is really hefty. Those back doors are designed so nothing gets damaged when you back into things. The grill would have to be equally as strong.
And the back door is a counter weight . I think its a mistake to put the radiator like he is but its his machine
I'd consider to make some kind of cutouts in the rear door to allow the air to get through but still have some protection for the radiator.
The problem with the wheels turning when you start the engine is that the belly bar is down if up the safety is on
Regarding the second wire from the alternator. It goes to one side of an ignition lamp. The other side of the lamp goes to the "run"connector on your ignition switch. When you turn the ignition switch to "run", the lamp comes on as current flows from the ignition switch through the lamp to a winding in the alternator. This provides the initial magnetic field in the alternator for it to start working. As the alternator generates its 12V, the voltage on the wire rises to 12v. There is now 12V applied to both sides of the lamp and the lamp goes out. If the engine stops, the current again flows from the ignition switch to turn on the lamp. If the alternator dies, then the lamp will come on. Just pinch an ignition lamp from an old car. It should be an incandescent lamp of about 5 watts, as an LED will not pass enough current to energize the alternator. I would not leave the alternator wire connected to the 12v without the lamp. Good work on the project mate, I enjoy watching you work and come up with some novel ways to solve problems. All the best from Sydney, Australia.
AKA the exciter wire.
The only other multi skilled engineer I knew who ,like Mustie, was rarely defeated was my Dad.Sadly we lost him 12 yrs ago .As a time served steam loco engineer he could get a better tune out of an engine with a hammer than I can with a whole workshop full of tools.Guys like you are one per generation.Keep on spannering.
That is a perfect way to describe him, it's a great day when Mustie puts up a video, no matter what he is doing its always interesting.
Hi didn't see anyone else mention it: the wiring diagram for the thermoswitch is cooked. The 12v hot should go to the terminal marked C and then the relay trigger should go to terminal 1. Ie take the 12v and move it to the free terminal. That should get it working the way you want it.
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Good morning Mustie followers - Have a great Sunday!
Likewise!
@@chylimzbydzi those 16hp kubota diesel engine mostually fits perfect on DR field and brush mower multi machine
Mustie you prove every week that you can adapt, overcome and improvise when wrenching. Thanks for the entertainment!
I noticed how you poured what I will call “your lucky box” bits all over the floor. Now its a pain to pick up all the bits. Solution would be to line your container with a large cloth or towel then fill with your bits. Next time you need to look for something lift the cloth and open up on the floor. Found what you need… pick up the corners of the cloth and place everything back into your container.
Exactly what I do when I empty out my #10 cans of bolts.
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Kinda neat idea. ❤
I will now be using that idea!
I love "Loctite!"
I was working in a auto parts warehouse in 1969, when the Loctite Rep came in all excited about a new product. He removed one screw from my glasses & said it would never loosen & come off again! He was right, but I'd wished he did both! There's a few" flavors" of Loctite, and now orange, which holds like red, but comes off like blue. It doesn't "glue" the threads, but rather seals the space btwn the threads so it can't rattle loose. I'm never without my blue!
There are a lot more flavors now. I got tired of my tilt steering wheel column loosening up on my 85 regal years ago. I used green lock tight on the bolts. I never have that problem again lol.
It looked like you went nuts driving that skid steer at the end of the video. Obviously, just figuring it out, but if I were close to someone driving this thing like that, I'd be scared the driver is losing it.
You deserve all bits of fun you can have with it, given all the credit fixing it goes to you. Thank you for giving us the chance to watch the process, its been great.
Good afternoon fellow Mustie1 fans, from the West Lindsey of Lincolnshire, UK 🇬🇧.
Good Morning. I shall enjoy my morning coffee while you enjoy your afternoon tea. 😊
Hello from West Yorkshire
Hello from Airdrie,Central Scotland.
Not the Airdrie in Canada,though it is just as bloody cold.
@@SomeCrap 👍 I can still remember trips to the beach at Weston from back in the 70s before I moved up here
Good evening from the Philippines😊
This project ended up being more than you bargained for but it sure made a great video. Thanks.
A good Mornin from Ontario Canada my Sundays aren't complete without a mustie vid lol
The " let it fall into the dirty oilbucket " gig never gets old😂😂😂
(been there , done that)😎
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I knew one Sunday morning I'd wake up and have this video to watch. I really enjoy your stuff-thanks Mustie1.
On those alternators the dashboard light is part of the exciter circuit. That's why if you don't have the dashboard light hooked up you might not get power. Sometimes they can spontaneously bootstrap from residual magnetics, but the light passes enough current to get it going. Once it's going the light turns off because the current drops to zero because it self excites after it's running.
Usually an alternator (not all) can go bad if you hook it direct to 12v instead of a lamp because it expect the resistant of the lamp. You can substitute the lamp with a resistor.
I love seeing that old forklift! I remember the video where you picked it up and it looked like such a hopeless piece of garbage. Look at it now! Purring like a kitten and guest-starring in almost every video.
I know this project has been a thorn in your side, but holy cow has it been informative, entertaining, and just great content. Hopefully you enjoy using the machine and the ends justify the work.
Hey! 😀👍 That thing seems to work in all directions! 😁👌 This has been a Blast to watch! Thanks M1!
Good Afternoon from Liverpool Mustie has Arrived. 🔧👍🇬🇧
Hello from Tyler Texas!
@@fyreantz2555 Hello to Tyler Texas. 👍🇬🇧
Thanks for letting us witness your struggles with feasibility and mechanics it's a joy to watch.
You really did a great job on that unit! I'd have never believed you could have done so much for it with what was available in that garage. it goes through it's paces well also. Great videos!
I love the long ones.
That's my afternoon taken care of.
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Your creativity is not only inspirational but absolutely brilliant, thinking outside the box.
Eating guacamole watching Mustie, living the dream!
the thing I admire most about your videos is how you revive old junk using more old junk 🤣🤣👍👍
Good to have a Sunday with Mustie! Did anyone else cringe as the tape got eaten by the hydraulic cylinder? It's a Mustie 1 video, for sure! Warts and all!
Man, it's great to see this Frankenstein moving dirt.
That machine can get a LOT of work done.
I've watched all 3 plus hours and enjoyed every min. Great job..Now off to the next,,
Great finish on the project, I’m sure there is a few tinkering thoughts rolling around. In my humble opinion, you got the best videos. You’re good people. Thank you for your time and effort.
And a big hello from deepest darkest Suffolk,England,
That little 3-cylinder Kubota is a bit of a paint-shaker isn’t it!
Drinking Sunday night cause I don’t care about work tomorrow and watching Mustie. Best night of the week.
Couldn’t wait to see this bobcat completed. Thanks Mustie
I'm super glad to see this project to the finish. I buy equipment like this, and the wife gets pissed. It's not a bad machine. You're no Andrew or Andris, but you'll get the hang of it. Great series!! 👍👍
Which is more useful? Skid steer or mini excavator?
@@samfeldman1508 Different machines for different purposes.
@samfeldman1508 I prefer a track loader over a skid steer. But the answer to your question is that it depends on what you need at the time. If I could only have one, it would be an excavator with a blade.
Regarding the fan switch. As the two connectors dont connect, but the center and unconnected terminal connect when the fan should be off. Perhaps the unconnected terminal is the common. Swapping the outer terminals over may invert the switch for you....
I agree. I think the wiring diagram is incorrect. The common should be powered and i believe the center is "normally open" which you would want for your set temp to engage the fan.
@@SD40Guy Exactly. He had it wired for a heating, not a cooling system. The switch is not faulty, just needs to be connected the right way.
Im glad this channel didn't turn into a "watch me spend my momey" channel. Good content. Thanks
As usual, great job indeed ! An old man from France
I wondered thru this series if all your man hours and fabrication was going to be worth it for that small skid steer, but once again all your fabrications and engineering was solid and made good viewing videos
Thanks Musty.
That's not a 'Ferris' mower, Darren. It's a Toro Groundsmaster 322-D (diesel) and a 72" mower deck. We had a fleet of them where I was the groundskeeper for our local community college. Damn nice mowers!
The Frankin-Loader is ALIVE!!! Nice work as usual Mustie 😎🔧
This machine and a mini excavator will be great for you when you find those barn finds and the ones Sasquatch dragged into the forest 😂😂 THANKS Mustie for sharing your content 💪🏽💯🤙🏼. ALOHA FROM THE BIG ISLAND🌺
Thanks for the shop time Mustie1! I dropped my magnetic folding light into the oil bucket lol! The light is still seeping oil!
Yeah, it showed you're a rookie in a skid steer. It reminded me of when I first learned to operate one. I can still feel the jerking around in it you did figuring it out. Seriously, thanks for sharing your projects with us. It's always fascinating to see the solutions you come up to solve problems.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and problem solving skills with us all. I've learned so much from watching your content throughout the years!
Your fortitude is off the charts! You just never give up when you confront an obstacle. Good video Mustie! Thanks!
I've really enjoyed this series on this Bobcat it's been really interesting how you fabricated everything
Morning all from good ol GA
Hey Brother, I'm just outside Augusta and not planning any trips to town, as it is Masters Week.
Looks like that Bobcat is going to be very useful, great job repairing it,thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
Glad you decided to re engine and make the video for great entertainment and learning. I enjoy all your videos. Curious whatever happened to the case backhoe you built a snow blade for?
I bought a used KH-41 Kubota mini excavator over 18 years ago and added + 2000 hours to get it up to its current mileage of 4600 hours and it still has work to do. I can still get parts and while I am no mechanic I can manage most of the maintenance but don’t tackle repairs like a final drive or hydraulic cylinder seal. I do change hoses and adjust the mechanical operating linkages and change the rubber tracks. Machine is for our property maintenance and some offsite favours for family and friends. Fits nicely on a tandem trailer with 3000 pound axles and the Silverado does the towing. It all keeps an 83 year old away from watching too many You Tube videos.
Regarding the thermostat switch. I am thinking their diagram is wrong. It looks like you have power coming in on the NO contact of the relay instead of the input. That would cause your exact symptoms. Your not seeing power on the one contact because its the NC contact. I'm guessing C is for the center contact and 1/2 are your output contacts. I'm betting if you switch your power wire over to the contact that was disconnected at 1:27:30 you will see switching power on the other 2 contacts. Ive really enjoyed watching this skid steer come to life. Ran one like it most of my childhood. Mine creeped forward like that too lol.
I was thinking the same, nothing wrong with the switch but being supplied with a bad wiring schematic; the 'C' shown as unused, will be common, the 12v supply should go to that unlike where it's shown on the schematic, the other two will be 'N.O' (normally open), and 'N.C.' (normally closed). The fan should connect to the N.O. output, it'll work as desired then.
The thermostat has a single-pole double-throw switch. 'C' is the common terminal to connect the Hot wire. The other two terminals open and close based upon the setpoint of the Thermostat and the temperature of the coolant. In this case you would connect the relay wire to the terminal that Closes upon a coolant temperature rise above the Setpoint.
I want to see Mustie and Eric O work on a project together! that would be legendary!
Gotta love a Sunday episode of Mustie1 Darren working on his skid steer castoff he's installing an engine in.
Especially since it's almost 3 hours long and i can pause it twice for a nap and again for supper.
I've definitely learnt a lot from this channel since I started watching...
But one thing Mustie can't teach me is how to physically keep working on it all.... I'm getting a sore back and legs just laying in bed watching 😂
Huge effort mate - well done! Cheers from Melbourne, Australia!
Been watching all the motor swap out
It's fun to see what you can do with things when you have a shop with the right equipment
Afternoon from Essex, England 🏴
Sunday afternoon is now complete with a Mustie1 video 🎉
Hello from Witham 👍
Hello from West Yorkshire
Hello from Colchester.
Check out 6d diesels . Very good channel
Hello From Hull
You might consider a strip of non-skid on that step above the bucket and before the cab where you climb in.
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Smart man, happy to see someone drill before using a step bit. Just because the tips dead doesn't mean it is a useless tool.
Texas checking in. Good morning. God bless your Sunday.
That would be a soap stone.amazing work. I always love watching you tinker and wrench on this stuff.
Yep, soapstone. It might also be known as French chalk.
You know Mustie1 if I worked with you I wouldn’t ever get any work done because you would have me laughing so often. “Captain Hook to the rescue…….” You’re the best
What an incredible job! Junk to riches! Great video my friend!
i bet you heard us all saying save the plug for the old hole lol
I didn't say that... I'd have just left the hole and said it was for cooling 😂
Good morning Darren from Calgary, Alberta.
What a job didn't take you long either really impressed with how you just do it rusty and right with new 🎉 been 6yrs of watching love it.
This project gets my vote for most interesting of the past year.
Be careful welding stuff that has been cleaned with brake cleaner, I believe standard brake cleaner has chlorine in which becomes deadly toxic when welding. I think they sell a version without chlorine in that's good for welding. Stay safe everyone 🙏
Yes chlorinated brake cleaner can be DEADLY if you hit a pocket of it while welding, acetone is much safer, it flashes off and doesn't leave a residue.
Also bad around torpedo heaters damn near killed me lost brain cells I’m sure
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Probably should check/change the oil in the drive gearboxes too. I agree that this was way more work than you anticipated but once it is done, you know that is tip top which might not be the case if you bought an operational one. I just love your channel and look forward to it on Sundays😀
This has been an excellent series. Have really enjoyed watching the process come together and see this old beast come back to life Mustie1 style 👌
Congrats, that was quite a battle. You showed a lot of ingenuity in solving the many problems.
Good Morning Mustie1. The stone you used for marking the metal is called soapstone. Love the videos, keep them coming, I watch religiously every Sunday.
Bug's Bunny would be proud. That one made me laugh.
That engine is so smooth… you can barely hear it running.. 😂
Definitely a great machine well worth the effort to get it back in shape thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother
Alternators, I've had bad luck with Alternators on my 94 suburban lately, The factory one died, so I got a replacement from Auto Zone, it locked up tight on me, so had to buy a new belt, replaced it with another one, it caught fire, had to buy a new/used wiring, replaced the belt and another alt, and it fell apart before I put it on the truck.
They didn't have another one, nor did the other stores around, I rigged up a 70s style GM Alternator I had laying around, had to change the pulley and rig on a bracket, its only like 70amp, enough to charge and run lights, but running lights and power windows and heater it doesn't like much at all, But I needed that truck as soon as possible, I ordered another one online, will never use a Durlast alternator again I can tell you that much.
Hi D. Man that was a lot of work!! Now you have an awesome machine. I am really impressed with all of the mods that you had to do!! It really came together beautifully!! Great job as usual!! Love the longer videos. Thanks for all the hard work!!! Darren
So this is now a MustieCat?
Glad to see you got it fixed she's a runner 😊
Hey Mustie lad, a nice long video, really enjoyable, thank you. Best regards from Ireland.
I'd cut a couple of windows in that back cover and put some expanded metal over it to give the radiator some fresh air-help keep it cool !!!
I *love* this stuff.
"Who left a rag down there?" [removes flaming rag, leaves another rag right next to it]
Great save on that Bobcat. Perfect machine for your intended uses. The bad news is it's all downhill into a pit of snakes from here if you get into fixing up a mini excavator. Literally a put of hydraulics hose snakes, broken valves and just endless expensive parts. If the machine is old and cheap, it will likely need parts you cannot find or which will not be cheap. Hydraulic hoses are insane and you'll need a shop to make them for you. Thousands gone in a flash. For the excavating work you want to do, in my opinion, you should look for (cringe) a cheap Chinese excavator, under $10K with a gas engine you can easily work on. It will still have hydraulics and no parts availability at all so you will be forced to think up fixes rather than spending big bucks. My fear is that any used Yanmar or Kubota or Deere you can afford will need so much work, and so many parts, it only makes sense for someone using it to make revenue.
You are one of the happiest guys I know of; awesome! 😊
For the radiator support, it would be far more robust to use square tubing. And then weld the fan support brackets. Or even allow the radiator to rest on a braket with rubber mounts.
Volvo fuel pump mounts . 1228599 is the partnumber. From my head . for the 460821 fuel pump.
EPIC retrofit! Nothing easy is worth having. All it needs is some lights.
I ran a bobcat back in the day and I can say they are very handy to have around and a blast to run once you get some time on one .
Enjoy and thanks for the vid
You freehand that plasma cutter just like ICWeld.....well, almost...😁
Good morning for the UK. Hope you are all well 👍
Good morning mustie!
I really enjoyed this series.
Thanks for the excellent work and entertainment you do
From the UK
Well done Mustie, I so look forward to your brilliant videos 👍👍👍👍
Defiantly seems to be the most fabrication you've had on any one project. good job.
Mustie's hair showing his Hippie Days. LOL
I think it's more of a metal mullet, although with his VW van expertise.
That started during Covid . If I wasn’t working in healthcare I’d have let my hair grow too.
@@Philc231 Let my hair grow during covid. It became long and luscious. Along with the longest my beard has ever been.
@@Philc231 I'm 63 and mine is long.... couldn't help but tease him...
It looks good
Hi Mustie, you should probably wire the middle contact on the thermostat to the power feed line, an the fan on one of the outside (can't imagine, wich is the right..); But great Job!!!!!
I had a blast watching this! Many thanks for bringing us along!!!!
Best advice on running a 600 series Bobcat: If it starts bucking back and forth violently, just let go of both control sticks. Thanks for another great video!
When I was a young feller I almost beat the crap out of myself in one of those. Could have used that advice back then!
"Before we make any fire lets get rid of that" - where's the fun in that? 🤷♂
I'm with y'all. Mustie's helped me to up my game with various projects. Just watching and learning some tricks here and there.